Pensioner knocked to the ground and left injured in the street after mobility scooter rider ploughs in to her in a Hampshire town centre

Hunt for hit-and-run mobility scooter rider after 94-year-old is mown down

Hunt for hit-and-run mobility scooter rider after 94-year-old is mown down

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A PENSIONER was mown down by a mobility scooter in a hit and run incident in Hampshire.

The 94-year-old woman was injured after being hit by the vehicle in the centre of Romsey.

She was in the alleyway next to Boots in The Hundred at about 12.30pm on Saturday (March 29) when she was hit.

She was left with cuts and bruises to her ankle, which required treatment.

The person driving the mobility scooter did not stop after the pensioner was knocked to the floor.

Police officers investigating the incident are urging witnesses to come forward.

PC Peter Stansfield said: “This incident has left an elderly woman injured and very shaken. It has happened at a busy time of the day in Romsey town centre and I'm sure someone will have seen something relevant to our investigation. I'd urge them to contact us.”

Anyone with information should contact PC Stansfield at Romsey police station on 101.

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1:28pm Tue 1 Apr 14

From the sidelines says...

I'm sure she was mistaken. It MUST have been a cyclist....

Half blind old wrecks driving these things like they have right of way over everyone, it's only down to the nimbleness of the other pedestrians that there aren't more injuries.
I'm sure she was mistaken. It MUST have been a cyclist.... Half blind old wrecks driving these things like they have right of way over everyone, it's only down to the nimbleness of the other pedestrians that there aren't more injuries. From the sidelines
  • Score: 44

1:30pm Tue 1 Apr 14

saints2345 says...

Is this serious?
Is this serious? saints2345
  • Score: -23

1:37pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Mary80 says...

Some of those scooters can get up to a pretty decent speed, nearly got run over by a few of the ruddy things myself. If old people can't avoid hitting people they shouldn't be allowed to use them when out among large groups of people
Some of those scooters can get up to a pretty decent speed, nearly got run over by a few of the ruddy things myself. If old people can't avoid hitting people they shouldn't be allowed to use them when out among large groups of people Mary80
  • Score: 41

1:41pm Tue 1 Apr 14

SotonGreen says...

Pensioner on Pensioner violence it is a slowly growing menace.
Pensioner on Pensioner violence it is a slowly growing menace. SotonGreen
  • Score: 33

1:42pm Tue 1 Apr 14

ToastyTea says...

It's mainly fat slobs who use them these days so not necessarily an oap behind it, probably someone in a rush for Mcdonalds.
It's mainly fat slobs who use them these days so not necessarily an oap behind it, probably someone in a rush for Mcdonalds. ToastyTea
  • Score: 43

1:51pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Brite Spark says...

Give it time it will die out.
Give it time it will die out. Brite Spark
  • Score: 0

2:03pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Brite Spark says...

Southy can get 35 mph out of his.
Southy can get 35 mph out of his. Brite Spark
  • Score: 2

2:05pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Kingontail says...

From the sidelines wrote:
I'm sure she was mistaken. It MUST have been a cyclist....

Half blind old wrecks driving these things like they have right of way over everyone, it's only down to the nimbleness of the other pedestrians that there aren't more injuries.
I agree - they should be "ability " tested - just because someone has got to 40 stone should not entitle them to glide round like a mobile roundabout. They could decimate entire families or building.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I'm sure she was mistaken. It MUST have been a cyclist.... Half blind old wrecks driving these things like they have right of way over everyone, it's only down to the nimbleness of the other pedestrians that there aren't more injuries.[/p][/quote]I agree - they should be "ability " tested - just because someone has got to 40 stone should not entitle them to glide round like a mobile roundabout. They could decimate entire families or building. Kingontail
  • Score: 19

2:22pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Sooz1988 says...

there isn't a mcdonalds in Romsey, i discovered this yesterday :(

back to topic though, i hope the lady makes a speedy recovery no pun intended.
there isn't a mcdonalds in Romsey, i discovered this yesterday :( back to topic though, i hope the lady makes a speedy recovery no pun intended. Sooz1988
  • Score: 16

2:28pm Tue 1 Apr 14

NotoNwo says...

These things can be fast as they have all there necessary functions to go on the highway ie wing mirrors, indicators and rear lights.
Many of those who ride/drive them think people owe them the right of way. And yes some users are just obese.
These things can be fast as they have all there necessary functions to go on the highway ie wing mirrors, indicators and rear lights. Many of those who ride/drive them think people owe them the right of way. And yes some users are just obese. NotoNwo
  • Score: 17

2:32pm Tue 1 Apr 14

sotonbusdriver says...

As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement... sotonbusdriver
  • Score: -13

2:47pm Tue 1 Apr 14

bluecougar says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
Time and again mobility scooters are now having accidents involving pedestrians - sorry but they shouldn't even be on the **** pavement especially as somewhere so small as Romsey where it is hard enough to pass by people on the pavements as it is very narrow, if your reactions aren't quick enough to stop at a walking pace then you should not be in charge of a large piece of equipment such as these scooters, lets hope you would have stopped and not just mowed down an elderly lady - or do we have to look twice now when coming out of a shop when instead of being wary of pedestrians (who couldn't knock me or anyone else over) I now have to take care in case you are driving your vehicle along the pavement. I walk along a pavement and stay out of the road because of cars maybe you should be on the road not where the public are walking doing their everyday shopping.!
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]Time and again mobility scooters are now having accidents involving pedestrians - sorry but they shouldn't even be on the **** pavement especially as somewhere so small as Romsey where it is hard enough to pass by people on the pavements as it is very narrow, if your reactions aren't quick enough to stop at a walking pace then you should not be in charge of a large piece of equipment such as these scooters, lets hope you would have stopped and not just mowed down an elderly lady - or do we have to look twice now when coming out of a shop when instead of being wary of pedestrians (who couldn't knock me or anyone else over) I now have to take care in case you are driving your vehicle along the pavement. I walk along a pavement and stay out of the road because of cars maybe you should be on the road not where the public are walking doing their everyday shopping.! bluecougar
  • Score: 36

3:01pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Kingontail says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
are you really fat?
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]are you really fat? Kingontail
  • Score: 6

3:02pm Tue 1 Apr 14

townieboy says...

NO FOOL LIKE AN APRIL FOOL
NO FOOL LIKE AN APRIL FOOL townieboy
  • Score: -13

3:24pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Shoong says...

98% of things are are sat upon by people who have let themselves get incredibly fat.

Another 1% on people who are too permanently drunk too walk.

The other 1% are genuinely needed, I'm sure.
98% of things are are sat upon by people who have let themselves get incredibly fat. Another 1% on people who are too permanently drunk too walk. The other 1% are genuinely needed, I'm sure. Shoong
  • Score: -7

4:13pm Tue 1 Apr 14

From the sidelines says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
4mph is a quite a fast walking pace. I doubt you could walk at that speed in Romsey amongst the other shoppers.

I suggest you slow down to the rate others are walking, which is likely to be 2 - 2.5mph.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]4mph is a quite a fast walking pace. I doubt you could walk at that speed in Romsey amongst the other shoppers. I suggest you slow down to the rate others are walking, which is likely to be 2 - 2.5mph. From the sidelines
  • Score: 10

4:20pm Tue 1 Apr 14

RomseyKeith says...

townieboy wrote:
NO FOOL LIKE AN APRIL FOOL
The report was posted after midday, so the Fool's on them (if I remember the tradition right).
[quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: NO FOOL LIKE AN APRIL FOOL[/p][/quote]The report was posted after midday, so the Fool's on them (if I remember the tradition right). RomseyKeith
  • Score: 5

4:40pm Tue 1 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

saints2345 wrote:
Is this serious?
Yes very, if like me you consider clearing off and leaving a 94 year old with cuts and bruises after you've knocked them over.
[quote][p][bold]saints2345[/bold] wrote: Is this serious?[/p][/quote]Yes very, if like me you consider clearing off and leaving a 94 year old with cuts and bruises after you've knocked them over. sotonboy84
  • Score: 11

5:04pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Niel says...

Shoong wrote:
98% of things are are sat upon by people who have let themselves get incredibly fat.

Another 1% on people who are too permanently drunk too walk.

The other 1% are genuinely needed, I'm sure.
Too drunk to drive, banned from driving a normal road vehicle, get a buggy! Several banned drivers in Fareham have, and their still a menace on the roads...
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: 98% of things are are sat upon by people who have let themselves get incredibly fat. Another 1% on people who are too permanently drunk too walk. The other 1% are genuinely needed, I'm sure.[/p][/quote]Too drunk to drive, banned from driving a normal road vehicle, get a buggy! Several banned drivers in Fareham have, and their still a menace on the roads... Niel
  • Score: 4

5:08pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Irate Wintonian says...

Should need a licence to operate one in my opinon. I appreciate it won't cure the problem any more than car drivers drive badly on a licence. But at least it might deter some of the 'non-essential users' as it measns they'll have to get off their ar$e and do something.
Should need a licence to operate one in my opinon. I appreciate it won't cure the problem any more than car drivers drive badly on a licence. But at least it might deter some of the 'non-essential users' as it measns they'll have to get off their ar$e and do something. Irate Wintonian
  • Score: 8

5:22pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Totton_Saint_Andy says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
So you're a bus driver then. Questionable how you don't have the necessary reactions to avoid people at walking pace on pavements, yet you trust your reactions enough to shuttle the general public around. I hope I never get on a bus your a driving.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]So you're a bus driver then. Questionable how you don't have the necessary reactions to avoid people at walking pace on pavements, yet you trust your reactions enough to shuttle the general public around. I hope I never get on a bus your a driving. Totton_Saint_Andy
  • Score: 12

5:52pm Tue 1 Apr 14

dango says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?'
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?' dango
  • Score: 4

6:29pm Tue 1 Apr 14

willygetaway says...

Romseys first drive by scooting lol
Romseys first drive by scooting lol willygetaway
  • Score: 8

6:34pm Tue 1 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

These machines are a menace. My Grandmother has one as she has heart problems so can't walk far and she is a nightmare on hers. If she drives past a shop window and notices something of interest she will just pull in without looking. The amount of times she's ran over my toes..........
These machines are a menace. My Grandmother has one as she has heart problems so can't walk far and she is a nightmare on hers. If she drives past a shop window and notices something of interest she will just pull in without looking. The amount of times she's ran over my toes.......... IronLady2010
  • Score: 3

6:38pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Huey says...

Ban these dangerous machines NOW.
So many are ridden by clueless grey cretins or obese people who have realised it is easier than walking.
They should be pushing themselves about in wheelchairs or staying at home.
Ban these dangerous machines NOW. So many are ridden by clueless grey cretins or obese people who have realised it is easier than walking. They should be pushing themselves about in wheelchairs or staying at home. Huey
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Huffter says...

Hit and RUN?
Hit and RUN? Huffter
  • Score: 1

6:47pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Stubs says...

I think these fat slopes who use these mobility scooters are so lazy people. They need to get off their lazy back sides and get a job. What is this county coming too.
I think these fat slopes who use these mobility scooters are so lazy people. They need to get off their lazy back sides and get a job. What is this county coming too. Stubs
  • Score: 0

7:05pm Tue 1 Apr 14

SOULJACKER says...

There is one fat old biddy in Bevois valley that does her begging from her scooter, she is a menace to the public.
Once she has had a 'special brew' or six she sure don't need no scooter!
There is one fat old biddy in Bevois valley that does her begging from her scooter, she is a menace to the public. Once she has had a 'special brew' or six she sure don't need no scooter! SOULJACKER
  • Score: 0

7:08pm Tue 1 Apr 14

cmth40 says...

we had a problem with a disabled man who knew it was 4 in ALL public places and pavements he hit a couple of people with the speed and so what accident that in the end we got the police involved who made him take the thing back and get it for 4 only also they should have number plates,and when in a shopping area made to be no more than 2 and having to slow when passing a shop of any sort i have to agree they are a bloody menace,and now it isnt just disabled useing them anyone can,many lazy gits,obese,and lord and lady mucks that as the car cant drive me door to door on the pavement use them BAN ALL BUT DISABLED WITH MEDICAL REQUIERMENTS TO USE THEM ONLY
we had a problem with a disabled man who knew it was 4 in ALL public places and pavements he hit a couple of people with the speed and so what accident that in the end we got the police involved who made him take the thing back and get it for 4 only also they should have number plates,and when in a shopping area made to be no more than 2 and having to slow when passing a shop of any sort i have to agree they are a bloody menace,and now it isnt just disabled useing them anyone can,many lazy gits,obese,and lord and lady mucks that as the car cant drive me door to door on the pavement use them BAN ALL BUT DISABLED WITH MEDICAL REQUIERMENTS TO USE THEM ONLY cmth40
  • Score: -5

7:11pm Tue 1 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
There is one fat old biddy in Bevois valley that does her begging from her scooter, she is a menace to the public.
Once she has had a 'special brew' or six she sure don't need no scooter!
For a minute then I had visions of that lady who wears makeup like coco the clown and odd boots/shoes riding one of these lol
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: There is one fat old biddy in Bevois valley that does her begging from her scooter, she is a menace to the public. Once she has had a 'special brew' or six she sure don't need no scooter![/p][/quote]For a minute then I had visions of that lady who wears makeup like coco the clown and odd boots/shoes riding one of these lol IronLady2010
  • Score: -2

7:23pm Tue 1 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Maybe it's time to limit these machines to those who are able to have a disabled badge which means they are on the higher rate of mobility.
Maybe it's time to limit these machines to those who are able to have a disabled badge which means they are on the higher rate of mobility. IronLady2010
  • Score: -2

7:53pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Huey says...

Stubs wrote:
I think these fat slopes who use these mobility scooters are so lazy people. They need to get off their lazy back sides and get a job. What is this county coming too.
I hear you! So true.
[quote][p][bold]Stubs[/bold] wrote: I think these fat slopes who use these mobility scooters are so lazy people. They need to get off their lazy back sides and get a job. What is this county coming too.[/p][/quote]I hear you! So true. Huey
  • Score: -5

8:03pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Huey says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Maybe it's time to limit these machines to those who are able to have a disabled badge which means they are on the higher rate of mobility.
Not good enough I'm afraid BAN THEM.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Maybe it's time to limit these machines to those who are able to have a disabled badge which means they are on the higher rate of mobility.[/p][/quote]Not good enough I'm afraid BAN THEM. Huey
  • Score: -9

8:21pm Tue 1 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Kingontail wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
are you really fat?
Pointless remark you inbred moron, are you really a tw@t?
Is it? Seemingly many comments refer to the gigantic size of many of these owners. Maybe more 'on point' than hurling abuse??? Just a thought
[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]are you really fat?[/p][/quote]Pointless remark you inbred moron, are you really a tw@t?[/p][/quote]Is it? Seemingly many comments refer to the gigantic size of many of these owners. Maybe more 'on point' than hurling abuse??? Just a thought elvisimo
  • Score: -1

8:23pm Tue 1 Apr 14

TwistedWitch says...

Some of the people who comment on the posts here never cease to amaze me. Opinionated twits some of you. I'm guessing none of you who are so rude about the elderly or infirm are planning on getting old or ill yourselves. And I bet that when you do, you will be the first to shout about your rights, rights you would happily take away from someone else just because you are not in that position yourself.

I'm surprised some of you haven't called for a blanket ban on pushchairs and wheelchairs too. In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere, causing some poor sods with breathing problems the need to use a scooter in the first place.
Some of the people who comment on the posts here never cease to amaze me. Opinionated twits some of you. I'm guessing none of you who are so rude about the elderly or infirm are planning on getting old or ill yourselves. And I bet that when you do, you will be the first to shout about your rights, rights you would happily take away from someone else just because you are not in that position yourself. I'm surprised some of you haven't called for a blanket ban on pushchairs and wheelchairs too. In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere, causing some poor sods with breathing problems the need to use a scooter in the first place. TwistedWitch
  • Score: -3

9:23pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Huey says...

TwistedWitch wrote:
Some of the people who comment on the posts here never cease to amaze me. Opinionated twits some of you. I'm guessing none of you who are so rude about the elderly or infirm are planning on getting old or ill yourselves. And I bet that when you do, you will be the first to shout about your rights, rights you would happily take away from someone else just because you are not in that position yourself.

I'm surprised some of you haven't called for a blanket ban on pushchairs and wheelchairs too. In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere, causing some poor sods with breathing problems the need to use a scooter in the first place.
Look these bloody scooters are the curse of our high streets and pavements.
We need to support a ban NOW.
If you cannot walk get a wheelchair
If you cannot push yourself around, DONT get a scooter and drive it like a jerk, accept you need to depend on others and get yourself into a home.
Time to accept reality no matter how much it may sting.....
[quote][p][bold]TwistedWitch[/bold] wrote: Some of the people who comment on the posts here never cease to amaze me. Opinionated twits some of you. I'm guessing none of you who are so rude about the elderly or infirm are planning on getting old or ill yourselves. And I bet that when you do, you will be the first to shout about your rights, rights you would happily take away from someone else just because you are not in that position yourself. I'm surprised some of you haven't called for a blanket ban on pushchairs and wheelchairs too. In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere, causing some poor sods with breathing problems the need to use a scooter in the first place.[/p][/quote]Look these bloody scooters are the curse of our high streets and pavements. We need to support a ban NOW. If you cannot walk get a wheelchair If you cannot push yourself around, DONT get a scooter and drive it like a jerk, accept you need to depend on others and get yourself into a home. Time to accept reality no matter how much it may sting..... Huey
  • Score: -5

9:37pm Tue 1 Apr 14

pantsanon says...

They think they own the pavements and some even go on the rods they should have insurance
They think they own the pavements and some even go on the rods they should have insurance pantsanon
  • Score: 2

9:53pm Tue 1 Apr 14

sotonbusdriver says...

dango wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?'
The fact I was a bus driver led to the nickname here..
Although I don't drive any more as I have been classed unfit to work full stop...
I cannot walk very far unaided, and no I am not FAT,, I have a perfectly correct BMI...
The reasons I can't walk far is because of spinal injuries, but that doesn't actually effect my medically fitness to drive... And have been assessed fit to drive by a qualified doctor...
Sitting down driving, or riding a mobility scooter doesn't effect my control of a vehicle at all...
Although 4mph is the pavement speed, there is a further speed control down to a very slow 1mph... Those scooter which have a maximum 4mph, are ILLEGAL on the road.. So the comments made about them not on the pavement, you need to be better informed of the law regarding mobility scooters,, Those with 8mph, can travel on the road, but only when at full speed, at half speed (4 mph or less) are by law allowed on the pavement and inside shops too.... If you feel that needs to be changed then I suggest you get a petition up and send it to your local MP, and get the law changed...

You need to understand that the scooters don't have an actual brake, like in a car or on a cycle... When you release the throttle lever which is to make it go along, the motor goes into a braking mode, stopping the scooter.. But like any system, it take reaction time, and them stopping distance....

A problem when someone suddenly jumps out in front of you with only inches to react and stop... I would like to see some of those who have criticised mobility scooter, do any better.

Mobility scooters are a great thing for those that cannot walk, and no not all users are 40 st and have the backsides hanging over the seat... Without mine, trying to go shopping independently in a shopping area, or shopping centre wouldn't be possible, so should I not be allowed to access these areas, maybe you promote disabled people like me, should be euthanasia'd and packed off in our coffins...
[quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?'[/p][/quote]The fact I was a bus driver led to the nickname here.. Although I don't drive any more as I have been classed unfit to work full stop... I cannot walk very far unaided, and no I am not FAT,, I have a perfectly correct BMI... The reasons I can't walk far is because of spinal injuries, but that doesn't actually effect my medically fitness to drive... And have been assessed fit to drive by a qualified doctor... Sitting down driving, or riding a mobility scooter doesn't effect my control of a vehicle at all... Although 4mph is the pavement speed, there is a further speed control down to a very slow 1mph... Those scooter which have a maximum 4mph, are ILLEGAL on the road.. So the comments made about them not on the pavement, you need to be better informed of the law regarding mobility scooters,, Those with 8mph, can travel on the road, but only when at full speed, at half speed (4 mph or less) are by law allowed on the pavement and inside shops too.... If you feel that needs to be changed then I suggest you get a petition up and send it to your local MP, and get the law changed... You need to understand that the scooters don't have an actual brake, like in a car or on a cycle... When you release the throttle lever which is to make it go along, the motor goes into a braking mode, stopping the scooter.. But like any system, it take reaction time, and them stopping distance.... A problem when someone suddenly jumps out in front of you with only inches to react and stop... I would like to see some of those who have criticised mobility scooter, do any better. Mobility scooters are a great thing for those that cannot walk, and no not all users are 40 st and have the backsides hanging over the seat... Without mine, trying to go shopping independently in a shopping area, or shopping centre wouldn't be possible, so should I not be allowed to access these areas, maybe you promote disabled people like me, should be euthanasia'd and packed off in our coffins... sotonbusdriver
  • Score: 8

10:06pm Tue 1 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
dango wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?'
The fact I was a bus driver led to the nickname here..
Although I don't drive any more as I have been classed unfit to work full stop...
I cannot walk very far unaided, and no I am not FAT,, I have a perfectly correct BMI...
The reasons I can't walk far is because of spinal injuries, but that doesn't actually effect my medically fitness to drive... And have been assessed fit to drive by a qualified doctor...
Sitting down driving, or riding a mobility scooter doesn't effect my control of a vehicle at all...
Although 4mph is the pavement speed, there is a further speed control down to a very slow 1mph... Those scooter which have a maximum 4mph, are ILLEGAL on the road.. So the comments made about them not on the pavement, you need to be better informed of the law regarding mobility scooters,, Those with 8mph, can travel on the road, but only when at full speed, at half speed (4 mph or less) are by law allowed on the pavement and inside shops too.... If you feel that needs to be changed then I suggest you get a petition up and send it to your local MP, and get the law changed...

You need to understand that the scooters don't have an actual brake, like in a car or on a cycle... When you release the throttle lever which is to make it go along, the motor goes into a braking mode, stopping the scooter.. But like any system, it take reaction time, and them stopping distance....

A problem when someone suddenly jumps out in front of you with only inches to react and stop... I would like to see some of those who have criticised mobility scooter, do any better.

Mobility scooters are a great thing for those that cannot walk, and no not all users are 40 st and have the backsides hanging over the seat... Without mine, trying to go shopping independently in a shopping area, or shopping centre wouldn't be possible, so should I not be allowed to access these areas, maybe you promote disabled people like me, should be euthanasia'd and packed off in our coffins...
I fear you're digging a hole for yourself here.

As an ex bus driver you are no doubt aware that you need eyes in the back of your head to enable you to predict the next pedestrian's bad move.

I'd guess 99% of people 'walk' on a pavement (guessing) so to come out of a doorway and have one of these machines whizz up to you can be a shock.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?'[/p][/quote]The fact I was a bus driver led to the nickname here.. Although I don't drive any more as I have been classed unfit to work full stop... I cannot walk very far unaided, and no I am not FAT,, I have a perfectly correct BMI... The reasons I can't walk far is because of spinal injuries, but that doesn't actually effect my medically fitness to drive... And have been assessed fit to drive by a qualified doctor... Sitting down driving, or riding a mobility scooter doesn't effect my control of a vehicle at all... Although 4mph is the pavement speed, there is a further speed control down to a very slow 1mph... Those scooter which have a maximum 4mph, are ILLEGAL on the road.. So the comments made about them not on the pavement, you need to be better informed of the law regarding mobility scooters,, Those with 8mph, can travel on the road, but only when at full speed, at half speed (4 mph or less) are by law allowed on the pavement and inside shops too.... If you feel that needs to be changed then I suggest you get a petition up and send it to your local MP, and get the law changed... You need to understand that the scooters don't have an actual brake, like in a car or on a cycle... When you release the throttle lever which is to make it go along, the motor goes into a braking mode, stopping the scooter.. But like any system, it take reaction time, and them stopping distance.... A problem when someone suddenly jumps out in front of you with only inches to react and stop... I would like to see some of those who have criticised mobility scooter, do any better. Mobility scooters are a great thing for those that cannot walk, and no not all users are 40 st and have the backsides hanging over the seat... Without mine, trying to go shopping independently in a shopping area, or shopping centre wouldn't be possible, so should I not be allowed to access these areas, maybe you promote disabled people like me, should be euthanasia'd and packed off in our coffins...[/p][/quote]I fear you're digging a hole for yourself here. As an ex bus driver you are no doubt aware that you need eyes in the back of your head to enable you to predict the next pedestrian's bad move. I'd guess 99% of people 'walk' on a pavement (guessing) so to come out of a doorway and have one of these machines whizz up to you can be a shock. IronLady2010
  • Score: -6

10:39pm Tue 1 Apr 14

BeyondImagination says...

bluecougar wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
Time and again mobility scooters are now having accidents involving pedestrians - sorry but they shouldn't even be on the **** pavement especially as somewhere so small as Romsey where it is hard enough to pass by people on the pavements as it is very narrow, if your reactions aren't quick enough to stop at a walking pace then you should not be in charge of a large piece of equipment such as these scooters, lets hope you would have stopped and not just mowed down an elderly lady - or do we have to look twice now when coming out of a shop when instead of being wary of pedestrians (who couldn't knock me or anyone else over) I now have to take care in case you are driving your vehicle along the pavement. I walk along a pavement and stay out of the road because of cars maybe you should be on the road not where the public are walking doing their everyday shopping.!
Would you ban wheelchairs too? I doubt it.

In law powered wheelchairs and scooters are covered by the same definition of invalid carriages (Class 2 or 3). All are exempt from the Road Traffic Act so there is little the police can do to prosecute. However, anyone who is injured can claim in the civil courts and that can be very costly for the uninsured user.

I'm not sure how anyone can say scooter users are obese because it is well known that wheelchair and scooter users are invisible to pedestrians. Does he take sugar?
[quote][p][bold]bluecougar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]Time and again mobility scooters are now having accidents involving pedestrians - sorry but they shouldn't even be on the **** pavement especially as somewhere so small as Romsey where it is hard enough to pass by people on the pavements as it is very narrow, if your reactions aren't quick enough to stop at a walking pace then you should not be in charge of a large piece of equipment such as these scooters, lets hope you would have stopped and not just mowed down an elderly lady - or do we have to look twice now when coming out of a shop when instead of being wary of pedestrians (who couldn't knock me or anyone else over) I now have to take care in case you are driving your vehicle along the pavement. I walk along a pavement and stay out of the road because of cars maybe you should be on the road not where the public are walking doing their everyday shopping.![/p][/quote]Would you ban wheelchairs too? I doubt it. In law powered wheelchairs and scooters are covered by the same definition of invalid carriages (Class 2 or 3). All are exempt from the Road Traffic Act so there is little the police can do to prosecute. However, anyone who is injured can claim in the civil courts and that can be very costly for the uninsured user. I'm not sure how anyone can say scooter users are obese because it is well known that wheelchair and scooter users are invisible to pedestrians. Does he take sugar? BeyondImagination
  • Score: 1

10:43pm Tue 1 Apr 14

BeyondImagination says...

Stubs wrote:
I think these fat slopes who use these mobility scooters are so lazy people. They need to get off their lazy back sides and get a job. What is this county coming too.
You should be stubbed out.
[quote][p][bold]Stubs[/bold] wrote: I think these fat slopes who use these mobility scooters are so lazy people. They need to get off their lazy back sides and get a job. What is this county coming too.[/p][/quote]You should be stubbed out. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Tue 1 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

Granny rage these days...
Granny rage these days... 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

11:15pm Tue 1 Apr 14

BeyondImagination says...

If they catch the scooter user she won't have a leg to stand on.
If they catch the scooter user she won't have a leg to stand on. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 2

11:35pm Tue 1 Apr 14

non sailor, lymington says...

cmth40 wrote:
we had a problem with a disabled man who knew it was 4 in ALL public places and pavements he hit a couple of people with the speed and so what accident that in the end we got the police involved who made him take the thing back and get it for 4 only also they should have number plates,and when in a shopping area made to be no more than 2 and having to slow when passing a shop of any sort i have to agree they are a bloody menace,and now it isnt just disabled useing them anyone can,many lazy gits,obese,and lord and lady mucks that as the car cant drive me door to door on the pavement use them BAN ALL BUT DISABLED WITH MEDICAL REQUIERMENTS TO USE THEM ONLY
Pardon?.
[quote][p][bold]cmth40[/bold] wrote: we had a problem with a disabled man who knew it was 4 in ALL public places and pavements he hit a couple of people with the speed and so what accident that in the end we got the police involved who made him take the thing back and get it for 4 only also they should have number plates,and when in a shopping area made to be no more than 2 and having to slow when passing a shop of any sort i have to agree they are a bloody menace,and now it isnt just disabled useing them anyone can,many lazy gits,obese,and lord and lady mucks that as the car cant drive me door to door on the pavement use them BAN ALL BUT DISABLED WITH MEDICAL REQUIERMENTS TO USE THEM ONLY[/p][/quote]Pardon?. non sailor, lymington
  • Score: 1

11:54pm Tue 1 Apr 14

BeyondImagination says...

non sailor, lymington wrote:
cmth40 wrote:
we had a problem with a disabled man who knew it was 4 in ALL public places and pavements he hit a couple of people with the speed and so what accident that in the end we got the police involved who made him take the thing back and get it for 4 only also they should have number plates,and when in a shopping area made to be no more than 2 and having to slow when passing a shop of any sort i have to agree they are a bloody menace,and now it isnt just disabled useing them anyone can,many lazy gits,obese,and lord and lady mucks that as the car cant drive me door to door on the pavement use them BAN ALL BUT DISABLED WITH MEDICAL REQUIERMENTS TO USE THEM ONLY
Pardon?.
Invalid carriages (mobility scooters) can only legally be used by a person who is disabled. If anyone who is not disabled uses one, the exemption from the road traffic act is lost and it becomes a mechanically propelled vehicle so needs tax, insurance, licence, MOT etc.

The police don't know the law.
[quote][p][bold]non sailor, lymington[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cmth40[/bold] wrote: we had a problem with a disabled man who knew it was 4 in ALL public places and pavements he hit a couple of people with the speed and so what accident that in the end we got the police involved who made him take the thing back and get it for 4 only also they should have number plates,and when in a shopping area made to be no more than 2 and having to slow when passing a shop of any sort i have to agree they are a bloody menace,and now it isnt just disabled useing them anyone can,many lazy gits,obese,and lord and lady mucks that as the car cant drive me door to door on the pavement use them BAN ALL BUT DISABLED WITH MEDICAL REQUIERMENTS TO USE THEM ONLY[/p][/quote]Pardon?.[/p][/quote]Invalid carriages (mobility scooters) can only legally be used by a person who is disabled. If anyone who is not disabled uses one, the exemption from the road traffic act is lost and it becomes a mechanically propelled vehicle so needs tax, insurance, licence, MOT etc. The police don't know the law. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

3:13am Wed 2 Apr 14

latitude19 says...

The DE already has a photograph of the suspect who tore away from the scene, last spoted scooting past Fratton Park. Please Echo put the picture up
The DE already has a photograph of the suspect who tore away from the scene, last spoted scooting past Fratton Park. Please Echo put the picture up latitude19
  • Score: 2

5:01am Wed 2 Apr 14

Lockssmart says...

I've knocked over a few people with my invacare scooter, mainly people of what I call the 180 crew. They're walking along and then they suddenly realise something and without looking turn 180 degrees and walk straight into the machine. Also another popular one is the smartphone user that has to update their Facebook so desperately. Walking along, head down, with not a care in the world, you can see then coming and try to avoid them, but they're all over the pavement and 'bang' got em!
I've knocked over a few people with my invacare scooter, mainly people of what I call the 180 crew. They're walking along and then they suddenly realise something and without looking turn 180 degrees and walk straight into the machine. Also another popular one is the smartphone user that has to update their Facebook so desperately. Walking along, head down, with not a care in the world, you can see then coming and try to avoid them, but they're all over the pavement and 'bang' got em! Lockssmart
  • Score: -2

8:05am Wed 2 Apr 14

gilbertratchet says...

Kingontail wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
I'm sure she was mistaken. It MUST have been a cyclist....

Half blind old wrecks driving these things like they have right of way over everyone, it's only down to the nimbleness of the other pedestrians that there aren't more injuries.
I agree - they should be "ability " tested - just because someone has got to 40 stone should not entitle them to glide round like a mobile roundabout. They could decimate entire families or building.
Seems you don't know what the word decimate means.
[quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: I'm sure she was mistaken. It MUST have been a cyclist.... Half blind old wrecks driving these things like they have right of way over everyone, it's only down to the nimbleness of the other pedestrians that there aren't more injuries.[/p][/quote]I agree - they should be "ability " tested - just because someone has got to 40 stone should not entitle them to glide round like a mobile roundabout. They could decimate entire families or building.[/p][/quote]Seems you don't know what the word decimate means. gilbertratchet
  • Score: 0

8:15am Wed 2 Apr 14

Kingontail says...

TwistedWitch wrote:
Some of the people who comment on the posts here never cease to amaze me. Opinionated twits some of you. I'm guessing none of you who are so rude about the elderly or infirm are planning on getting old or ill yourselves. And I bet that when you do, you will be the first to shout about your rights, rights you would happily take away from someone else just because you are not in that position yourself.

I'm surprised some of you haven't called for a blanket ban on pushchairs and wheelchairs too. In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere, causing some poor sods with breathing problems the need to use a scooter in the first place.
"Opinionated twits some of you" - "In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere" - um Pot Kettle?
[quote][p][bold]TwistedWitch[/bold] wrote: Some of the people who comment on the posts here never cease to amaze me. Opinionated twits some of you. I'm guessing none of you who are so rude about the elderly or infirm are planning on getting old or ill yourselves. And I bet that when you do, you will be the first to shout about your rights, rights you would happily take away from someone else just because you are not in that position yourself. I'm surprised some of you haven't called for a blanket ban on pushchairs and wheelchairs too. In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere, causing some poor sods with breathing problems the need to use a scooter in the first place.[/p][/quote]"Opinionated twits some of you" - "In fact why not just allow those monster 4x4s which stink up the place and pollute the atmosphere" - um Pot Kettle? Kingontail
  • Score: 1

8:29am Wed 2 Apr 14

LadySam says...

There is nowhere safe for pedestrians. Around Shirley the majority of mobility scooter users I see are typically about 40, absolutely massive and only in need of one of these things because of this. Many of these scooters are simply too large to be allowed on the footpath. Tie this in with people cycling on paths, ignorant chav mums walking their offspring in prams three abreast and people on foots have pretty much nowhere to walk.
There is nowhere safe for pedestrians. Around Shirley the majority of mobility scooter users I see are typically about 40, absolutely massive and only in need of one of these things because of this. Many of these scooters are simply too large to be allowed on the footpath. Tie this in with people cycling on paths, ignorant chav mums walking their offspring in prams three abreast and people on foots have pretty much nowhere to walk. LadySam
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8:55am Wed 2 Apr 14

camerajuan says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
dango wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?'
The fact I was a bus driver led to the nickname here..
Although I don't drive any more as I have been classed unfit to work full stop...
I cannot walk very far unaided, and no I am not FAT,, I have a perfectly correct BMI...
The reasons I can't walk far is because of spinal injuries, but that doesn't actually effect my medically fitness to drive... And have been assessed fit to drive by a qualified doctor...
Sitting down driving, or riding a mobility scooter doesn't effect my control of a vehicle at all...
Although 4mph is the pavement speed, there is a further speed control down to a very slow 1mph... Those scooter which have a maximum 4mph, are ILLEGAL on the road.. So the comments made about them not on the pavement, you need to be better informed of the law regarding mobility scooters,, Those with 8mph, can travel on the road, but only when at full speed, at half speed (4 mph or less) are by law allowed on the pavement and inside shops too.... If you feel that needs to be changed then I suggest you get a petition up and send it to your local MP, and get the law changed...

You need to understand that the scooters don't have an actual brake, like in a car or on a cycle... When you release the throttle lever which is to make it go along, the motor goes into a braking mode, stopping the scooter.. But like any system, it take reaction time, and them stopping distance....

A problem when someone suddenly jumps out in front of you with only inches to react and stop... I would like to see some of those who have criticised mobility scooter, do any better.

Mobility scooters are a great thing for those that cannot walk, and no not all users are 40 st and have the backsides hanging over the seat... Without mine, trying to go shopping independently in a shopping area, or shopping centre wouldn't be possible, so should I not be allowed to access these areas, maybe you promote disabled people like me, should be euthanasia'd and packed off in our coffins...
What genius measured your BMI and used it as basis to prove you're not fat?

And, slow down on the pavement. Simple.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]if you're fit and able enough to drive a bus, it begs the question 'why do you need a mobility scooter?'[/p][/quote]The fact I was a bus driver led to the nickname here.. Although I don't drive any more as I have been classed unfit to work full stop... I cannot walk very far unaided, and no I am not FAT,, I have a perfectly correct BMI... The reasons I can't walk far is because of spinal injuries, but that doesn't actually effect my medically fitness to drive... And have been assessed fit to drive by a qualified doctor... Sitting down driving, or riding a mobility scooter doesn't effect my control of a vehicle at all... Although 4mph is the pavement speed, there is a further speed control down to a very slow 1mph... Those scooter which have a maximum 4mph, are ILLEGAL on the road.. So the comments made about them not on the pavement, you need to be better informed of the law regarding mobility scooters,, Those with 8mph, can travel on the road, but only when at full speed, at half speed (4 mph or less) are by law allowed on the pavement and inside shops too.... If you feel that needs to be changed then I suggest you get a petition up and send it to your local MP, and get the law changed... You need to understand that the scooters don't have an actual brake, like in a car or on a cycle... When you release the throttle lever which is to make it go along, the motor goes into a braking mode, stopping the scooter.. But like any system, it take reaction time, and them stopping distance.... A problem when someone suddenly jumps out in front of you with only inches to react and stop... I would like to see some of those who have criticised mobility scooter, do any better. Mobility scooters are a great thing for those that cannot walk, and no not all users are 40 st and have the backsides hanging over the seat... Without mine, trying to go shopping independently in a shopping area, or shopping centre wouldn't be possible, so should I not be allowed to access these areas, maybe you promote disabled people like me, should be euthanasia'd and packed off in our coffins...[/p][/quote]What genius measured your BMI and used it as basis to prove you're not fat? And, slow down on the pavement. Simple. camerajuan
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9:38am Wed 2 Apr 14

Beer Monster says...

SOULJACKER wrote:
Kingontail wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
are you really fat?
Pointless remark you inbred moron, are you really a tw@t?
A total WUM - I reckon their previous incarnation (Kingnotail) has been banned...unsurprisin
gly.

I believe latitude19 is correct and the photograph of the chief suspect has been leaked.

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[quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]are you really fat?[/p][/quote]Pointless remark you inbred moron, are you really a tw@t?[/p][/quote]A total WUM - I reckon their previous incarnation (Kingnotail) has been banned...unsurprisin gly. I believe latitude19 is correct and the photograph of the chief suspect has been leaked. https://fbcdn-sphoto s-b-a.akamaihd.net/h photos-ak-prn1/t1.0- 9/1975224_1020338221 5933519_1489228211_n .jpg Beer Monster
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10:51am Wed 2 Apr 14

BeyondImagination says...

LadySam wrote:
There is nowhere safe for pedestrians. Around Shirley the majority of mobility scooter users I see are typically about 40, absolutely massive and only in need of one of these things because of this. Many of these scooters are simply too large to be allowed on the footpath. Tie this in with people cycling on paths, ignorant chav mums walking their offspring in prams three abreast and people on foots have pretty much nowhere to walk.
Far too many fat chavs waddling around Shirley. How dare they walk when they could be using a mobility scooter. They just get in the way.
[quote][p][bold]LadySam[/bold] wrote: There is nowhere safe for pedestrians. Around Shirley the majority of mobility scooter users I see are typically about 40, absolutely massive and only in need of one of these things because of this. Many of these scooters are simply too large to be allowed on the footpath. Tie this in with people cycling on paths, ignorant chav mums walking their offspring in prams three abreast and people on foots have pretty much nowhere to walk.[/p][/quote]Far too many fat chavs waddling around Shirley. How dare they walk when they could be using a mobility scooter. They just get in the way. BeyondImagination
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1:03am Thu 3 Apr 14

BeyondImagination says...

Beer Monster wrote:
SOULJACKER wrote:
Kingontail wrote:
sotonbusdriver wrote:
As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look.
Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters.
I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy..
I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...
are you really fat?
Pointless remark you inbred moron, are you really a tw@t?
A total WUM - I reckon their previous incarnation (Kingnotail) has been banned...unsurprisin

gly.

I believe latitude19 is correct and the photograph of the chief suspect has been leaked.

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[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOULJACKER[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingontail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: As a mobility scooter user myself.. It is easy to blame the scooter user, but it is often the pedestrians stop, walkout of shops, veer across in front of the mobility scooters without a single look. Some of the scooter, those with lights and indicators have a top speed of 8mph, but the instructions make it quite clear that you have to select slow speed (max 4mph) when on pavements, But too many users fail to do so, speeding along at 8MPH, which is not allowed in the new regulations for mobility scooters. I have been almost caught out on mine at 4mph, which is only walking pace... When I have been riding sensibly along the pavement trying to keep a suitable distance between me and anyone else, when someone has hurried out of a shop straight in front of me, with the best will in the world it is hard to stop in time, if it had been a baby buggy, the child would have been thrown out of it with them bumping into the buggy.. I personally have insurance to cover all events, but it is not a legal requirement...[/p][/quote]are you really fat?[/p][/quote]Pointless remark you inbred moron, are you really a tw@t?[/p][/quote]A total WUM - I reckon their previous incarnation (Kingnotail) has been banned...unsurprisin gly. I believe latitude19 is correct and the photograph of the chief suspect has been leaked. https://fbcdn-sphoto s-b-a.akamaihd.net/h photos-ak-prn1/t1.0- 9/1975224_1020338221 5933519_1489228211_n .jpg[/p][/quote]Link does not work BeyondImagination
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