Southampton motorists have been urged to avoid the city centre as roadworks and cruise traffic could cause chaos

Daily Echo: Similar gridlock could hit Southampton again today Similar gridlock could hit Southampton again today

MOTORISTS are again facing lengthy delays in Southampton.

Traffic is slow between Saltmarsh Road to Dock Gate 4 due to volume of traffic entering the Docks.

It comes as drivers are urged to avoid parts of Southampton city centre to avoid a repeat of recent traffic chaos.

The warning comes as thousands of passengers make their way to and from a cruise liner at Dock Gate Four tomorrow and Monday.

Work is continuing to convert the nearby Platform Road and Town Quay into a dual carriageway. And Central Bridge is also now closed for six months for vital repairs to take place.

Since work began on the £5.3million Platform Road scheme, drivers have been hit by three days of gridlock misery when cruise liners arrived in the city.

Daily Echo: Crisis talks to prevent Southampton gridlock happening again

Roadworks and cruise traffic have brought gridlock to Southampton recently

Last month, city council chiefs urged motorists to avoid the area if possible when two more cruise ships docked.

And it worked, with no issues reported, although businesses in the area reported a drop in trade as a result.

Tomorrow and Monday, the 3,000-berth Azura will dock in the port following a world cruise, before setting off again on Monday.

The busiest times are expected to be between 7.30am and 10am on both days.

A spokesman for the council said: “If journeys to this part of the city are not essential, drivers may wish to travel outside of the peak times or come into the city using a different route.”

Council staff and contractor Balfour Beatty are working with Associated British Ports to minimise delays.

Message signs will urge drivers to avoid the area around Dock Gate Four, while extra staff will be on hand to allow drivers quicker access.

Council transport boss Jacqui Rayment said: “Southampton is open for business and the improvement works at Platform Road represent the highest level of investment in the city's roads for over a decade.

Daily Echo: Motorists during Tuesday's gridlock

“This will lead to significant benefits for residents, businesses and visitors to the city, but making such important changes is inevitably going to cause some disruption.

“We regret that some of our residents, visitors and businesses may be inconvenienced in the short term but the whole city will gain in the longer term.”

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5:57am Fri 4 Apr 14

Forest Resident says...

Rather than simply saying 'stay away' yet again why aren't Southampton City Council actually doing something to minimise the number of vehicles coming into the area like investing in a park and ride scheme? Widening a few roads here and there is just a temporary fix, you've got to lessen the vehicles using those roads in the long term to avoid gridlock.
Rather than simply saying 'stay away' yet again why aren't Southampton City Council actually doing something to minimise the number of vehicles coming into the area like investing in a park and ride scheme? Widening a few roads here and there is just a temporary fix, you've got to lessen the vehicles using those roads in the long term to avoid gridlock. Forest Resident
  • Score: 36

6:13am Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

Why not put into action their emergency road scheme & get the police to enforce it?
Why is it with hundreds heading to West Quay to the X Factor auditions & no problems yet one ship & we get this?
One lane for dock traffic & we've heard cars are ignoring this well come on council enforce your own measures.
Why not put into action their emergency road scheme & get the police to enforce it? Why is it with hundreds heading to West Quay to the X Factor auditions & no problems yet one ship & we get this? One lane for dock traffic & we've heard cars are ignoring this well come on council enforce your own measures. loosehead
  • Score: 6

6:18am Fri 4 Apr 14

Mary80 says...

OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved Mary80
  • Score: 43

6:23am Fri 4 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

Why are the highway works taking so long? If engineers can completely rebuild the train line in dawlish in 8 weeks, a slight reconfiguration of a road shouldn't take that long. Chuck more money at it. It will pay for itself in the long run.
Why are the highway works taking so long? If engineers can completely rebuild the train line in dawlish in 8 weeks, a slight reconfiguration of a road shouldn't take that long. Chuck more money at it. It will pay for itself in the long run. elvisimo
  • Score: 37

6:34am Fri 4 Apr 14

saint61 says...

Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
This is nothing to do with the ships. They have been docking in southampton for many years with no problems. It's simply down to the road works.
Daily echo stop being so negative.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]This is nothing to do with the ships. They have been docking in southampton for many years with no problems. It's simply down to the road works. Daily echo stop being so negative. saint61
  • Score: 20

7:04am Fri 4 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

I wonder if the Echo will tell us later that the bloke who sells tapas in Oxford St was a prawn short of a Paella again.
I wonder if the Echo will tell us later that the bloke who sells tapas in Oxford St was a prawn short of a Paella again. bigfella777
  • Score: -4

7:16am Fri 4 Apr 14

Huey says...

Ahhhh what a place
Ahhhh what a place Huey
  • Score: -7

7:36am Fri 4 Apr 14

Zexagon says...

I love how jacqui says "the city is open for business' . Does she have a 6ullsh1t phrase book?
I love how jacqui says "the city is open for business' . Does she have a 6ullsh1t phrase book? Zexagon
  • Score: 28

7:47am Fri 4 Apr 14

wwozzer says...

Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
Or utilise the rail line that already goes right into the dock with a park and ride at parkway, maybe on the old Ford site.

I think the council want the passengers driving into the city because they stupidly believe they may spend money in the area before and after a cruise, sadly I think it's highly unlikely anyone would be seduced by southampton after a world cruise and promptly bugger off home.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]Or utilise the rail line that already goes right into the dock with a park and ride at parkway, maybe on the old Ford site. I think the council want the passengers driving into the city because they stupidly believe they may spend money in the area before and after a cruise, sadly I think it's highly unlikely anyone would be seduced by southampton after a world cruise and promptly bugger off home. wwozzer
  • Score: 18

8:06am Fri 4 Apr 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

Zexagon wrote:
I love how jacqui says "the city is open for business' . Does she have a 6ullsh1t phrase book?
ocean village ,oxford street and cruise terminal is open for business,the rest is falling down around their ears.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I love how jacqui says "the city is open for business' . Does she have a 6ullsh1t phrase book?[/p][/quote]ocean village ,oxford street and cruise terminal is open for business,the rest is falling down around their ears. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 8

8:22am Fri 4 Apr 14

Terry_Nutkins says...

Forest Resident wrote:
Rather than simply saying 'stay away' yet again why aren't Southampton City Council actually doing something to minimise the number of vehicles coming into the area like investing in a park and ride scheme? Widening a few roads here and there is just a temporary fix, you've got to lessen the vehicles using those roads in the long term to avoid gridlock.
The road planning and traffic "calming" of Southampton is, and always has been, abysmal. Having got worse and worse over the years with no-one seeming to have enough foresight to rectify the problem.

Now, the cataclysmic aberration of a road system is beyond repair (much like the road surfaces) and is a lost cause. There mantra seems to be, stick in a one way or another set of traffic lights without the financial and diligent planning approach to foresee problems. So, with these road systems and hiked up parking, imposed night-time also, the council really are trying their very best to drive everyone away from Southampton. It seems to be working though....

You couldn't plan a city any worse if you tried.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: Rather than simply saying 'stay away' yet again why aren't Southampton City Council actually doing something to minimise the number of vehicles coming into the area like investing in a park and ride scheme? Widening a few roads here and there is just a temporary fix, you've got to lessen the vehicles using those roads in the long term to avoid gridlock.[/p][/quote]The road planning and traffic "calming" of Southampton is, and always has been, abysmal. Having got worse and worse over the years with no-one seeming to have enough foresight to rectify the problem. Now, the cataclysmic aberration of a road system is beyond repair (much like the road surfaces) and is a lost cause. There mantra seems to be, stick in a one way or another set of traffic lights without the financial and diligent planning approach to foresee problems. So, with these road systems and hiked up parking, imposed night-time also, the council really are trying their very best to drive everyone away from Southampton. It seems to be working though.... You couldn't plan a city any worse if you tried. Terry_Nutkins
  • Score: 18

8:34am Fri 4 Apr 14

Terry_Nutkins says...

Council transport boss Jacqui Rayment said: “Southampton is open for business and the improvement works at Platform Road represent the highest level of investment in the city's roads for over a decade".

I think this statement says it all. It's not huge outlay but obviously significant. When a simple set of lights on the round about on Millbrook Road (at the bottom of Tebourba Way) cost over a million to install (are they really needed when roundabouts are built to help the traffic flow and disperse?!), this outlay isn't that much in the grand scheme of things.

The fact this 5.3 million is given the public relations spiel (most significant in a decade) is inevitable but the larger fact remains, if it's the most significant in a decade, Rayment's words trying to appease people actually have the opposite effect in my opinion. Putting the cost in parallel to minor road works and this set of questionable traffic lights costing around a million pounds, I find it alarming that this is the most significant in 10 years. That explains why the infrastructure is absolutely absurd in this city and cost cutting measures have hampered trade (as it mention) and affects income to the city in the long term. Short term loss for long term gain. Perhaps the government should consider that when writing out mandates and hammering out local authority traffic and road budgets. Not just in Southampton, across the nation.

Less time scoring political points, more time writing out sensible, intelligent policy and instigating wise mandate for that elusive foresight that seems to hamper so many in office.
Council transport boss Jacqui Rayment said: “Southampton is open for business and the improvement works at Platform Road represent the highest level of investment in the city's roads for over a decade". I think this statement says it all. It's not huge outlay but obviously significant. When a simple set of lights on the round about on Millbrook Road (at the bottom of Tebourba Way) cost over a million to install (are they really needed when roundabouts are built to help the traffic flow and disperse?!), this outlay isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. The fact this 5.3 million is given the public relations spiel (most significant in a decade) is inevitable but the larger fact remains, if it's the most significant in a decade, Rayment's words trying to appease people actually have the opposite effect in my opinion. Putting the cost in parallel to minor road works and this set of questionable traffic lights costing around a million pounds, I find it alarming that this is the most significant in 10 years. That explains why the infrastructure is absolutely absurd in this city and cost cutting measures have hampered trade (as it mention) and affects income to the city in the long term. Short term loss for long term gain. Perhaps the government should consider that when writing out mandates and hammering out local authority traffic and road budgets. Not just in Southampton, across the nation. Less time scoring political points, more time writing out sensible, intelligent policy and instigating wise mandate for that elusive foresight that seems to hamper so many in office. Terry_Nutkins
  • Score: 12

8:53am Fri 4 Apr 14

sotonwinch09 says...

The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away.
The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away. sotonwinch09
  • Score: 9

9:00am Fri 4 Apr 14

Tenderhearts wife says...

Best thing to do is every time a cruise ship is due to dock, get Jacqui Rayment and her staff down to the platform Road area directing traffic in a bright orange Hi Viz vests with IM SORRY WE HAVE FAILED across the back. Im sure that the situation with the works will be resolved a lot faster.
Best thing to do is every time a cruise ship is due to dock, get Jacqui Rayment and her staff down to the platform Road area directing traffic in a bright orange Hi Viz vests with IM SORRY WE HAVE FAILED across the back. Im sure that the situation with the works will be resolved a lot faster. Tenderhearts wife
  • Score: 28

9:05am Fri 4 Apr 14

Zeo says...

There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!?
There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!? Zeo
  • Score: 27

9:05am Fri 4 Apr 14

lisa whitemore says...

This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure. lisa whitemore
  • Score: 13

9:09am Fri 4 Apr 14

chapelsaint says...

Never had this when I were a lad. Trams rattling between Shirley and the town, past piles of rubble on the bomb sites, blokes on bikes speeding along hanging on to the back of a conveniently passing truck and the council "dustcart" being pulled by a massive plodding shire horse with all its harness brasses shining. So much for progress.
Never had this when I were a lad. Trams rattling between Shirley and the town, past piles of rubble on the bomb sites, blokes on bikes speeding along hanging on to the back of a conveniently passing truck and the council "dustcart" being pulled by a massive plodding shire horse with all its harness brasses shining. So much for progress. chapelsaint
  • Score: 9

9:21am Fri 4 Apr 14

shadwell says...

How many times do they need to close Central Bridge, is it becoming the new Forth Bridge?
How many times do they need to close Central Bridge, is it becoming the new Forth Bridge? shadwell
  • Score: 14

9:21am Fri 4 Apr 14

cliffwalker says...

Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
And, while you're at it, an underground network extending out beyond the city boundaries and bring back the trams and don't build any new roads or repair any existing roads and and and . . . .
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]And, while you're at it, an underground network extending out beyond the city boundaries and bring back the trams and don't build any new roads or repair any existing roads and and and . . . . cliffwalker
  • Score: 5

9:29am Fri 4 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
[quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did. Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -17

9:46am Fri 4 Apr 14

Mr E says...

Good job yesterdays little incident (or worse) did not happen on a so called 'Gridlock Day' - We have been warned.
Good job yesterdays little incident (or worse) did not happen on a so called 'Gridlock Day' - We have been warned. Mr E
  • Score: 8

9:51am Fri 4 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

sotonwinch09 wrote:
The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away.
The shortsighted Liverpool mayor and a few Liverpool residents commenting on the DE is hardly competition to take away the cruise trade from Southampton. It's established, and geographically the best location in the UK for cruises and that's why the cruise lines have stayed with Southampton. We're close to the capital (just over an hour by train) and all the major airports as well as being hours away from France.

Liverpool have taken hundreds of millions of pounds of EU and taxpayers money and built a cruise terminal underhand. Competition also needs to be healthy and on a level playing field, something Liverpool have failed to do. But at the end of the day, ports will win business based on their merits and as Southampton's trade is so successful, it's doing something right.

The current traffic situation is rediculous and poorly handled but it's a blip and will soon be rectified and is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
[quote][p][bold]sotonwinch09[/bold] wrote: The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away.[/p][/quote]The shortsighted Liverpool mayor and a few Liverpool residents commenting on the DE is hardly competition to take away the cruise trade from Southampton. It's established, and geographically the best location in the UK for cruises and that's why the cruise lines have stayed with Southampton. We're close to the capital (just over an hour by train) and all the major airports as well as being hours away from France. Liverpool have taken hundreds of millions of pounds of EU and taxpayers money and built a cruise terminal underhand. Competition also needs to be healthy and on a level playing field, something Liverpool have failed to do. But at the end of the day, ports will win business based on their merits and as Southampton's trade is so successful, it's doing something right. The current traffic situation is rediculous and poorly handled but it's a blip and will soon be rectified and is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. sotonboy84
  • Score: 8

9:53am Fri 4 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand. sotonboy84
  • Score: 6

9:57am Fri 4 Apr 14

no. 10 says...

Zeo wrote:
There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!?
They had one, it was called Southampton Terminus.
[quote][p][bold]Zeo[/bold] wrote: There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!?[/p][/quote]They had one, it was called Southampton Terminus. no. 10
  • Score: 15

10:13am Fri 4 Apr 14

Jesta-a-View says...

It would have been a good idea to have delayed the work on Central Bridge until the other major local project was completed.

The trouble is silly budget constraints where the council gets some funding from Central Government to do a job but the job has to be done in a certain time frame or the funding is lost.

This is hardly Government for the people when the peoples lives are ill affected by closing or limiting access to so many roads all at once just to keep the bean counters happy.

That's the trouble with career politician's. They take their lead from twerps who can count up to ten but who don't have an appreciation of the collateral cost of making stupid decisions on roadworks.
It would have been a good idea to have delayed the work on Central Bridge until the other major local project was completed. The trouble is silly budget constraints where the council gets some funding from Central Government to do a job but the job has to be done in a certain time frame or the funding is lost. This is hardly Government for the people when the peoples lives are ill affected by closing or limiting access to so many roads all at once just to keep the bean counters happy. That's the trouble with career politician's. They take their lead from twerps who can count up to ten but who don't have an appreciation of the collateral cost of making stupid decisions on roadworks. Jesta-a-View
  • Score: 13

10:20am Fri 4 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es ..
.
How is that for you ?.
.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand.[/p][/quote]G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es .. . How is that for you ?. . Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -6

10:51am Fri 4 Apr 14

southy says...

saint61 wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
This is nothing to do with the ships. They have been docking in southampton for many years with no problems. It's simply down to the road works.
Daily echo stop being so negative.
Its combination of both and the third factory is that pass and present councils wants to throw every thing in 1 small area.
[quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]This is nothing to do with the ships. They have been docking in southampton for many years with no problems. It's simply down to the road works. Daily echo stop being so negative.[/p][/quote]Its combination of both and the third factory is that pass and present councils wants to throw every thing in 1 small area. southy
  • Score: 1

10:52am Fri 4 Apr 14

Bally_Hoo says...

saint61 wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
This is nothing to do with the ships. They have been docking in southampton for many years with no problems. It's simply down to the road works.
Daily echo stop being so negative.
I'm sorry but It is partly due to the cruise ships. These are several times the size that they used to be, and there are many more of them.

In the heyday of the ocean liners in the 1950's, most passengers travelled by train right-to the quayside.

Nowadays all passengers arrive by road, and if they are sailing from the ocean terminal, the only access is by dock gate 4, which has always been a bottleneck.

The council and the port authority need toget together to plan better access and to invest in reopening rail links into the port, so passengers can park outside the city (somewhere like Eastleigh or Hedge End) and get atrain to the quayside.
[quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]This is nothing to do with the ships. They have been docking in southampton for many years with no problems. It's simply down to the road works. Daily echo stop being so negative.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry but It is partly due to the cruise ships. These are several times the size that they used to be, and there are many more of them. In the heyday of the ocean liners in the 1950's, most passengers travelled by train right-to the quayside. Nowadays all passengers arrive by road, and if they are sailing from the ocean terminal, the only access is by dock gate 4, which has always been a bottleneck. The council and the port authority need toget together to plan better access and to invest in reopening rail links into the port, so passengers can park outside the city (somewhere like Eastleigh or Hedge End) and get atrain to the quayside. Bally_Hoo
  • Score: 7

11:15am Fri 4 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Zeo wrote:
There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!?
While the rest of this Country, Wales and Scotland are revitalising rail links, down here in Motorland, the Twentieth Century still rules the roads. A blinkered outlook on the uses of rail and tram links will ensure that we will never have such services and gridlock will go on for ever. Serves you right.
[quote][p][bold]Zeo[/bold] wrote: There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!?[/p][/quote]While the rest of this Country, Wales and Scotland are revitalising rail links, down here in Motorland, the Twentieth Century still rules the roads. A blinkered outlook on the uses of rail and tram links will ensure that we will never have such services and gridlock will go on for ever. Serves you right. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

11:15am Fri 4 Apr 14

THE12THMAN says...

Zeo wrote:
There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Even better build one in the docks!
[quote][p][bold]Zeo[/bold] wrote: There a flipping railway line that goes into the docks, why the heck can't they build a station at Canute Road?!?!?!?!?!?!?[/p][/quote]Even better build one in the docks! THE12THMAN
  • Score: 7

11:19am Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

wwozzer wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
Or utilise the rail line that already goes right into the dock with a park and ride at parkway, maybe on the old Ford site.

I think the council want the passengers driving into the city because they stupidly believe they may spend money in the area before and after a cruise, sadly I think it's highly unlikely anyone would be seduced by southampton after a world cruise and promptly bugger off home.
So they don't use our hotels which employ people & pay suppliers who pay people then?
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]Or utilise the rail line that already goes right into the dock with a park and ride at parkway, maybe on the old Ford site. I think the council want the passengers driving into the city because they stupidly believe they may spend money in the area before and after a cruise, sadly I think it's highly unlikely anyone would be seduced by southampton after a world cruise and promptly bugger off home.[/p][/quote]So they don't use our hotels which employ people & pay suppliers who pay people then? loosehead
  • Score: 0

11:32am Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

Let's put it all into perspective shall we. We use to have fortnightly visits from Cunard Ships we had the Oriana,Oranje & Canberra we also had countless Union Castle ships & that amounted to both old & new docks being full(berths) so to say were seeing more now when we have one or two ships in is wrong.
The new road lay out was put forward by the then Tory council who applied for a grant to do such works Labour continued with the scheme but the problem isn't this scheme( I opposed it) or the Cruise Ships but the fact we had roadworks for a totally disastrous cycleway so all traffic was funnelled towards dock gate 4 where more roadworks were taking place.
Now logically thinking people would have staggered the road works so when the Dock gate 4 works was finished the cycleway would commence then after that Central Bridgeworks would commence but Logic did not prevail so let's do it all at the same time or at least two out of three works together.
We have people saying about the trains? have you looked at what road these train tracks run across? try looking at the road your driving on when going from dock gate 4 to the Itchen Bridge can you envisage the hold ups if passenger trains crossed that road?
Also what about the passengers who come here & stay in our hotels ? surely we should be encouraging more to use our hotels not telling them all to come by train?
Let's put it all into perspective shall we. We use to have fortnightly visits from Cunard Ships we had the Oriana,Oranje & Canberra we also had countless Union Castle ships & that amounted to both old & new docks being full(berths) so to say were seeing more now when we have one or two ships in is wrong. The new road lay out was put forward by the then Tory council who applied for a grant to do such works Labour continued with the scheme but the problem isn't this scheme( I opposed it) or the Cruise Ships but the fact we had roadworks for a totally disastrous cycleway so all traffic was funnelled towards dock gate 4 where more roadworks were taking place. Now logically thinking people would have staggered the road works so when the Dock gate 4 works was finished the cycleway would commence then after that Central Bridgeworks would commence but Logic did not prevail so let's do it all at the same time or at least two out of three works together. We have people saying about the trains? have you looked at what road these train tracks run across? try looking at the road your driving on when going from dock gate 4 to the Itchen Bridge can you envisage the hold ups if passenger trains crossed that road? Also what about the passengers who come here & stay in our hotels ? surely we should be encouraging more to use our hotels not telling them all to come by train? loosehead
  • Score: 0

11:33am Fri 4 Apr 14

On the inside says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Not only that, she is astonishingly stupid. Maybe se can get someone to explain to her the common usage of 'a' and 'the'. Anyone would think she was not really British.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Not only that, she is astonishingly stupid. Maybe se can get someone to explain to her the common usage of 'a' and 'the'. Anyone would think she was not really British. On the inside
  • Score: -2

11:36am Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

I went to Pure gym today at 07.00hrs very little traffic,I left the gym at 09.10hrs & again little traffic & the only time there was a build up was when the lights were red & the same thing at Commercial road so why is the Echo showing tailbacks at Western Esplanade? why can't vehicles take alternative routes.
If I know the boat show is on I don't go down Millbrook road I go through Shirley or Hill lane so it's using your brain not saying that's the way I want to go so I'm going there.
I went to Pure gym today at 07.00hrs very little traffic,I left the gym at 09.10hrs & again little traffic & the only time there was a build up was when the lights were red & the same thing at Commercial road so why is the Echo showing tailbacks at Western Esplanade? why can't vehicles take alternative routes. If I know the boat show is on I don't go down Millbrook road I go through Shirley or Hill lane so it's using your brain not saying that's the way I want to go so I'm going there. loosehead
  • Score: 3

11:38am Fri 4 Apr 14

Graeme Harrison says...

Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
They've got them in Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook so why not here?
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]They've got them in Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook so why not here? Graeme Harrison
  • Score: 12

11:48am Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

Why not ban all traffic besides dock related from that area of town until all road works are completed?
Why not ban all traffic besides dock related from that area of town until all road works are completed? loosehead
  • Score: -5

11:51am Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

When oh When was this picture taken? I was in town in that area today I never saw this so is it an old photo?
When oh When was this picture taken? I was in town in that area today I never saw this so is it an old photo? loosehead
  • Score: 2

11:54am Fri 4 Apr 14

Stan1st says...

Is it beyond capabilities To park all cruise cars at the Acres of space on Marchwood industrial park and Ferry passengers the short distance across the water, Avoiding Southampton City centre totally.... just saying
Is it beyond capabilities To park all cruise cars at the Acres of space on Marchwood industrial park and Ferry passengers the short distance across the water, Avoiding Southampton City centre totally.... just saying Stan1st
  • Score: -2

11:54am Fri 4 Apr 14

in search of the truth says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
sotonwinch09 wrote:
The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away.
The shortsighted Liverpool mayor and a few Liverpool residents commenting on the DE is hardly competition to take away the cruise trade from Southampton. It's established, and geographically the best location in the UK for cruises and that's why the cruise lines have stayed with Southampton. We're close to the capital (just over an hour by train) and all the major airports as well as being hours away from France.

Liverpool have taken hundreds of millions of pounds of EU and taxpayers money and built a cruise terminal underhand. Competition also needs to be healthy and on a level playing field, something Liverpool have failed to do. But at the end of the day, ports will win business based on their merits and as Southampton's trade is so successful, it's doing something right.

The current traffic situation is rediculous and poorly handled but it's a blip and will soon be rectified and is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonwinch09[/bold] wrote: The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away.[/p][/quote]The shortsighted Liverpool mayor and a few Liverpool residents commenting on the DE is hardly competition to take away the cruise trade from Southampton. It's established, and geographically the best location in the UK for cruises and that's why the cruise lines have stayed with Southampton. We're close to the capital (just over an hour by train) and all the major airports as well as being hours away from France. Liverpool have taken hundreds of millions of pounds of EU and taxpayers money and built a cruise terminal underhand. Competition also needs to be healthy and on a level playing field, something Liverpool have failed to do. But at the end of the day, ports will win business based on their merits and as Southampton's trade is so successful, it's doing something right. The current traffic situation is rediculous and poorly handled but it's a blip and will soon be rectified and is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.[/p][/quote]If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton. in search of the truth
  • Score: 1

11:59am Fri 4 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
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Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. . Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -4

12:25pm Fri 4 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es ..
.
How is that for you ?.
.
*slow clap*

You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand.[/p][/quote]G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es .. . How is that for you ?. .[/p][/quote]*slow clap* You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments. sotonboy84
  • Score: 9

12:30pm Fri 4 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
.
Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway

When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. .[/p][/quote]Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time southamptonadi
  • Score: 4

12:33pm Fri 4 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

in search of the truth wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
sotonwinch09 wrote:
The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away.
The shortsighted Liverpool mayor and a few Liverpool residents commenting on the DE is hardly competition to take away the cruise trade from Southampton. It's established, and geographically the best location in the UK for cruises and that's why the cruise lines have stayed with Southampton. We're close to the capital (just over an hour by train) and all the major airports as well as being hours away from France.

Liverpool have taken hundreds of millions of pounds of EU and taxpayers money and built a cruise terminal underhand. Competition also needs to be healthy and on a level playing field, something Liverpool have failed to do. But at the end of the day, ports will win business based on their merits and as Southampton's trade is so successful, it's doing something right.

The current traffic situation is rediculous and poorly handled but it's a blip and will soon be rectified and is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.
Didn't think it would take you long to pop up and start throwing insults about Southampton. You seemed to have forgotten your usual broken record speech about Liverpool and how the city trumps every other.

If Liverpool had enough merits to compete with other cities and ports, then let it on its own merits. Your insults just belittle the passion you show for Liverpool. You seem to forget that Liverpool was, and still in parts, very run down and its people living in poverty. Because of this it was able to get hundreds of millions of pounds of funding to bring it up to an acceptable standard. It is now in a position to compete with other cities but as I said, not on a level playing field as Southampton's success is built mainly on reputation and private investment.
[quote][p][bold]in search of the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonwinch09[/bold] wrote: The council moan that Liverpool are trying to take away the cruise industry from Southampton, but if we cannot cope with the roads while cruise ships are in then I'm all for Liverpool taking it away.[/p][/quote]The shortsighted Liverpool mayor and a few Liverpool residents commenting on the DE is hardly competition to take away the cruise trade from Southampton. It's established, and geographically the best location in the UK for cruises and that's why the cruise lines have stayed with Southampton. We're close to the capital (just over an hour by train) and all the major airports as well as being hours away from France. Liverpool have taken hundreds of millions of pounds of EU and taxpayers money and built a cruise terminal underhand. Competition also needs to be healthy and on a level playing field, something Liverpool have failed to do. But at the end of the day, ports will win business based on their merits and as Southampton's trade is so successful, it's doing something right. The current traffic situation is rediculous and poorly handled but it's a blip and will soon be rectified and is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.[/p][/quote]If the road improvements do ease the traffic problems in Southampton , then one thing is certain. The cruise passengers will be able to get in and out of Southampton faster than a bat out of hell and will spend even less time and money within the confines of Southampton.[/p][/quote]Didn't think it would take you long to pop up and start throwing insults about Southampton. You seemed to have forgotten your usual broken record speech about Liverpool and how the city trumps every other. If Liverpool had enough merits to compete with other cities and ports, then let it on its own merits. Your insults just belittle the passion you show for Liverpool. You seem to forget that Liverpool was, and still in parts, very run down and its people living in poverty. Because of this it was able to get hundreds of millions of pounds of funding to bring it up to an acceptable standard. It is now in a position to compete with other cities but as I said, not on a level playing field as Southampton's success is built mainly on reputation and private investment. sotonboy84
  • Score: 1

12:36pm Fri 4 Apr 14

ecuk268 says...

I notice that this report was written at 4.00am and say that traffic is slow entering the Docks.

Really? At 4.00am?

Bit of journalistic licence I think.
I notice that this report was written at 4.00am and say that traffic is slow entering the Docks. Really? At 4.00am? Bit of journalistic licence I think. ecuk268
  • Score: 5

12:41pm Fri 4 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

Why Dont people just walk
Why Dont people just walk bigfella777
  • Score: 1

1:20pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es ..
.
How is that for you ?.
.
*slow clap*

You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.
What insults ??
.
If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain.
.
If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand.[/p][/quote]G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es .. . How is that for you ?. .[/p][/quote]*slow clap* You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.[/p][/quote]What insults ?? . If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain. . If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -3

2:38pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Mary80 says...

Graeme Harrison wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved
They've got them in Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook so why not here?
Long as they don't employ a guy called Homer Simpson as the driver it'll be fine
[quote][p][bold]Graeme Harrison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: OMG its NOT the cruise ships its the ENDLESS TRAFFIC WORKS this bloody town endlessly has on rotation. Feck sake just build a bloody monorail problem solved[/p][/quote]They've got them in Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook so why not here?[/p][/quote]Long as they don't employ a guy called Homer Simpson as the driver it'll be fine Mary80
  • Score: 2

3:33pm Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

southamptonadi wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
.
Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway

When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time
I wonder what it would be like if Ocean Village was still a working part of the docks?
I have been on busses at 08.30 from Weston going to Shirley from Woolston side of the Itchen Bridge down to dock gate 4 the traffic was piled up & going at a snails pace but then (before changes) onto the dual carriageway to free flowing traffic so as I've said before from the east the problems that stretch of road up to dock gate 4.
gone to town when a ship has been in from the west no trouble but I've seen worse queues than this when the boat shows on.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. .[/p][/quote]Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time[/p][/quote]I wonder what it would be like if Ocean Village was still a working part of the docks? I have been on busses at 08.30 from Weston going to Shirley from Woolston side of the Itchen Bridge down to dock gate 4 the traffic was piled up & going at a snails pace but then (before changes) onto the dual carriageway to free flowing traffic so as I've said before from the east the problems that stretch of road up to dock gate 4. gone to town when a ship has been in from the west no trouble but I've seen worse queues than this when the boat shows on. loosehead
  • Score: 2

3:36pm Fri 4 Apr 14

durkiboy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es ..
.
How is that for you ?.
.
*slow clap*

You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.
What insults ??
.
If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain.
.
If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken
I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council.......
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand.[/p][/quote]G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es .. . How is that for you ?. .[/p][/quote]*slow clap* You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.[/p][/quote]What insults ?? . If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain. . If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken[/p][/quote]I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council....... durkiboy
  • Score: 1

3:37pm Fri 4 Apr 14

durkiboy says...

durkiboy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es ..
.
How is that for you ?.
.
*slow clap*

You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.
What insults ??
.
If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain.
.
If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken
I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council.......
Lisa even!!!
[quote][p][bold]durkiboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand.[/p][/quote]G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es .. . How is that for you ?. .[/p][/quote]*slow clap* You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.[/p][/quote]What insults ?? . If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain. . If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken[/p][/quote]I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council.......[/p][/quote]Lisa even!!! durkiboy
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Fri 4 Apr 14

aldermoorboy says...

one result

Sotonboy84 1-0 Lone Ranger.

one hope for result

Man City 0-1 Saints (Lambert)
one result Sotonboy84 1-0 Lone Ranger. one hope for result Man City 0-1 Saints (Lambert) aldermoorboy
  • Score: -2

4:17pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Randoor says...

What a crap situation this city is in , So slow to do anything about the congestion , And as for the slowness of the works by balfour beatty that do a lot of contract work for the council , I expect the works to have been finished long ago , But I suspect that the council busy bodies are slowing the works till they start their next job
What a crap situation this city is in , So slow to do anything about the congestion , And as for the slowness of the works by balfour beatty that do a lot of contract work for the council , I expect the works to have been finished long ago , But I suspect that the council busy bodies are slowing the works till they start their next job Randoor
  • Score: 1

4:34pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Forest Resident says...

Stan1st wrote:
Is it beyond capabilities To park all cruise cars at the Acres of space on Marchwood industrial park and Ferry passengers the short distance across the water, Avoiding Southampton City centre totally.... just saying
You must be joking? Whilst there is indeed the parking space at the industrial park the volume of traffic you are talking about moving to and from the site would clog up Jacobs Gutter Lane (a minor rural road) in a matter of moments. No thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Stan1st[/bold] wrote: Is it beyond capabilities To park all cruise cars at the Acres of space on Marchwood industrial park and Ferry passengers the short distance across the water, Avoiding Southampton City centre totally.... just saying[/p][/quote]You must be joking? Whilst there is indeed the parking space at the industrial park the volume of traffic you are talking about moving to and from the site would clog up Jacobs Gutter Lane (a minor rural road) in a matter of moments. No thanks. Forest Resident
  • Score: 1

4:38pm Fri 4 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

I had to be in the centre of town for lunch time meet
Went by taxi
Taxi driver told me road were absolutely fine and in fact clearer than most non cruise days.
He wondered what the fuss was all about
btw he told me that Soton taxi drivers depend a good deal on cruise and student related business
I had to be in the centre of town for lunch time meet Went by taxi Taxi driver told me road were absolutely fine and in fact clearer than most non cruise days. He wondered what the fuss was all about btw he told me that Soton taxi drivers depend a good deal on cruise and student related business phil maccavity
  • Score: 3

5:36pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Maine Lobster says...

southamptonadi wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
.
Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway

When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time
Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. .[/p][/quote]Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time[/p][/quote]Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag? Maine Lobster
  • Score: 4

5:37pm Fri 4 Apr 14

wknight says...

Portsmouth has just opened a new park & ride. Winchester built a second recently.

What about one for Southampton with special buses going to the cruise ships. Many people take their luggage on a bus when they park at the long stay car parks at airports.
Portsmouth has just opened a new park & ride. Winchester built a second recently. What about one for Southampton with special buses going to the cruise ships. Many people take their luggage on a bus when they park at the long stay car parks at airports. wknight
  • Score: 2

6:09pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

Forest Resident wrote:
Stan1st wrote:
Is it beyond capabilities To park all cruise cars at the Acres of space on Marchwood industrial park and Ferry passengers the short distance across the water, Avoiding Southampton City centre totally.... just saying
You must be joking? Whilst there is indeed the parking space at the industrial park the volume of traffic you are talking about moving to and from the site would clog up Jacobs Gutter Lane (a minor rural road) in a matter of moments. No thanks.
No concerns about inflicting legions of bicycles on other peoples back yards but expresses horror at the thought of anyone invading his local roads.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stan1st[/bold] wrote: Is it beyond capabilities To park all cruise cars at the Acres of space on Marchwood industrial park and Ferry passengers the short distance across the water, Avoiding Southampton City centre totally.... just saying[/p][/quote]You must be joking? Whilst there is indeed the parking space at the industrial park the volume of traffic you are talking about moving to and from the site would clog up Jacobs Gutter Lane (a minor rural road) in a matter of moments. No thanks.[/p][/quote]No concerns about inflicting legions of bicycles on other peoples back yards but expresses horror at the thought of anyone invading his local roads. Torchie1
  • Score: -1

6:09pm Fri 4 Apr 14

northamboyofold says...

Why not do one side of Central bridge at a time, close the lane coming out of town, and put a diversion in place allowing traffic to still use Terminus Terrace and Bernard Street then change it over.
Whilst we are at it the traffic lights at the junction at Chapel road and Saltmarsh Lane need staggering as I have seen several near misses at this junction.
Why not do one side of Central bridge at a time, close the lane coming out of town, and put a diversion in place allowing traffic to still use Terminus Terrace and Bernard Street then change it over. Whilst we are at it the traffic lights at the junction at Chapel road and Saltmarsh Lane need staggering as I have seen several near misses at this junction. northamboyofold
  • Score: 1

6:15pm Fri 4 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

northamboyofold wrote:
Why not do one side of Central bridge at a time, close the lane coming out of town, and put a diversion in place allowing traffic to still use Terminus Terrace and Bernard Street then change it over.
Whilst we are at it the traffic lights at the junction at Chapel road and Saltmarsh Lane need staggering as I have seen several near misses at this junction.
It's the same as the lights on west quay road if you are leaving industrial estate and traffic leaving the retail park/mcdonalds. Road.

If your leaving the industrial estate no one turning right gives way to you. Stupid drivers I say, they should read the high code once in a while refresh their memories.

I suspect it's because we stagger lights and put filter lights up that people forget the basics
[quote][p][bold]northamboyofold[/bold] wrote: Why not do one side of Central bridge at a time, close the lane coming out of town, and put a diversion in place allowing traffic to still use Terminus Terrace and Bernard Street then change it over. Whilst we are at it the traffic lights at the junction at Chapel road and Saltmarsh Lane need staggering as I have seen several near misses at this junction.[/p][/quote]It's the same as the lights on west quay road if you are leaving industrial estate and traffic leaving the retail park/mcdonalds. Road. If your leaving the industrial estate no one turning right gives way to you. Stupid drivers I say, they should read the high code once in a while refresh their memories. I suspect it's because we stagger lights and put filter lights up that people forget the basics southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Fri 4 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

northamboyofold wrote:
Why not do one side of Central bridge at a time, close the lane coming out of town, and put a diversion in place allowing traffic to still use Terminus Terrace and Bernard Street then change it over.
Whilst we are at it the traffic lights at the junction at Chapel road and Saltmarsh Lane need staggering as I have seen several near misses at this junction.
It's the same as the lights on west quay road if you are leaving industrial estate and traffic leaving the retail park/mcdonalds. Road.

If your leaving the industrial estate no one turning right gives way to you. Stupid drivers I say, they should read the high code once in a while refresh their memories.

I suspect it's because we stagger lights and put filter lights up that people forget the basics
[quote][p][bold]northamboyofold[/bold] wrote: Why not do one side of Central bridge at a time, close the lane coming out of town, and put a diversion in place allowing traffic to still use Terminus Terrace and Bernard Street then change it over. Whilst we are at it the traffic lights at the junction at Chapel road and Saltmarsh Lane need staggering as I have seen several near misses at this junction.[/p][/quote]It's the same as the lights on west quay road if you are leaving industrial estate and traffic leaving the retail park/mcdonalds. Road. If your leaving the industrial estate no one turning right gives way to you. Stupid drivers I say, they should read the high code once in a while refresh their memories. I suspect it's because we stagger lights and put filter lights up that people forget the basics southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

6:27pm Fri 4 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
.
Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway

When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time
Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?
On a different note it's quite good in there we were sat on the 1st floor of the terminal and the ship iis metres away. So you get a good view. They should of put a roof terrace on top, would of gladly had a pint watching the kids look at the "boat".

Moral is anyone can go in and have a look. But it's £3 to park for two hours.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. .[/p][/quote]Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time[/p][/quote]Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?[/p][/quote]On a different note it's quite good in there we were sat on the 1st floor of the terminal and the ship iis metres away. So you get a good view. They should of put a roof terrace on top, would of gladly had a pint watching the kids look at the "boat". Moral is anyone can go in and have a look. But it's £3 to park for two hours. southamptonadi
  • Score: 2

6:52pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Maine Lobster wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
.
Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway

When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time
Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?
Well said Main Lobster .......... What a pity that the TRUTH we post gets in the way of the utter cr@p that is dished out from certain quarters.
.
On top of that i have a new friend and follower ....... I think his name is loosehead !!!
.
[quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. .[/p][/quote]Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time[/p][/quote]Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?[/p][/quote]Well said Main Lobster .......... What a pity that the TRUTH we post gets in the way of the utter cr@p that is dished out from certain quarters. . On top of that i have a new friend and follower ....... I think his name is loosehead !!! . Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

8:16pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Huffter says...

The Echo predicted problems a short while ago - when it came to it their headline read "No traffic chaos as drivers stay away from Southampton roads"

No story here!
The Echo predicted problems a short while ago - when it came to it their headline read "No traffic chaos as drivers stay away from Southampton roads" No story here! Huffter
  • Score: 0

9:01pm Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
.
Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway

When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time
Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?
Well said Main Lobster .......... What a pity that the TRUTH we post gets in the way of the utter cr@p that is dished out from certain quarters.
.
On top of that i have a new friend and follower ....... I think his name is loosehead !!!
.
friend & follower? would you like to elaborate on that?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. .[/p][/quote]Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time[/p][/quote]Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?[/p][/quote]Well said Main Lobster .......... What a pity that the TRUTH we post gets in the way of the utter cr@p that is dished out from certain quarters. . On top of that i have a new friend and follower ....... I think his name is loosehead !!! .[/p][/quote]friend & follower? would you like to elaborate on that? loosehead
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Fri 4 Apr 14

loosehead says...

I have said it before but the road works could have been organised so they were staggered & not two out of three done at the same time if this is a council departments fault they should hold their hands up & admit it .
But the Echo's constant blaming the cruise ships is wrong.
The Dock gate 4 Road alterations I was opposed to as it was already a dual carriage one way system & the bottleneck was past dock gate 4 so why alter that section of road?
But the last Tory Council were in favour of it & applied for a grant to do it & Labour continued with the scheme so both major parties wanted it.
Now common sense would say you look at dock movements then plan your journeys but most people seem to carry on regardless then blame the ships which is wrong you already know there's road works taking place so why not avoid that part of town?
What the hells going to happen if we have a boat show & a cruise ship in?
Mind you I take a different route so come on people use common sense & Echo when did this photo get taken?
I was in town in that area today & I never saw this!
I have said it before but the road works could have been organised so they were staggered & not two out of three done at the same time if this is a council departments fault they should hold their hands up & admit it . But the Echo's constant blaming the cruise ships is wrong. The Dock gate 4 Road alterations I was opposed to as it was already a dual carriage one way system & the bottleneck was past dock gate 4 so why alter that section of road? But the last Tory Council were in favour of it & applied for a grant to do it & Labour continued with the scheme so both major parties wanted it. Now common sense would say you look at dock movements then plan your journeys but most people seem to carry on regardless then blame the ships which is wrong you already know there's road works taking place so why not avoid that part of town? What the hells going to happen if we have a boat show & a cruise ship in? Mind you I take a different route so come on people use common sense & Echo when did this photo get taken? I was in town in that area today & I never saw this! loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:29pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Maine Lobster says...

loosehead wrote:
I have said it before but the road works could have been organised so they were staggered & not two out of three done at the same time if this is a council departments fault they should hold their hands up & admit it .
But the Echo's constant blaming the cruise ships is wrong.
The Dock gate 4 Road alterations I was opposed to as it was already a dual carriage one way system & the bottleneck was past dock gate 4 so why alter that section of road?
But the last Tory Council were in favour of it & applied for a grant to do it & Labour continued with the scheme so both major parties wanted it.
Now common sense would say you look at dock movements then plan your journeys but most people seem to carry on regardless then blame the ships which is wrong you already know there's road works taking place so why not avoid that part of town?
What the hells going to happen if we have a boat show & a cruise ship in?
Mind you I take a different route so come on people use common sense & Echo when did this photo get taken?
I was in town in that area today & I never saw this!
For once loosehead, I think I agree with you. Blimey, I think I need a lay down!!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I have said it before but the road works could have been organised so they were staggered & not two out of three done at the same time if this is a council departments fault they should hold their hands up & admit it . But the Echo's constant blaming the cruise ships is wrong. The Dock gate 4 Road alterations I was opposed to as it was already a dual carriage one way system & the bottleneck was past dock gate 4 so why alter that section of road? But the last Tory Council were in favour of it & applied for a grant to do it & Labour continued with the scheme so both major parties wanted it. Now common sense would say you look at dock movements then plan your journeys but most people seem to carry on regardless then blame the ships which is wrong you already know there's road works taking place so why not avoid that part of town? What the hells going to happen if we have a boat show & a cruise ship in? Mind you I take a different route so come on people use common sense & Echo when did this photo get taken? I was in town in that area today & I never saw this![/p][/quote]For once loosehead, I think I agree with you. Blimey, I think I need a lay down!! Maine Lobster
  • Score: -1

11:01pm Fri 4 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Put on a Shuttle service, why have so many cars going into a small space to collect passengers.

Several small 'luxury' shuttles is far better than hundreds of taxis.

These people have been stuck on boat for days, they will be grateful of the scenery, rather than looking out at water.
Put on a Shuttle service, why have so many cars going into a small space to collect passengers. Several small 'luxury' shuttles is far better than hundreds of taxis. These people have been stuck on boat for days, they will be grateful of the scenery, rather than looking out at water. IronLady2010
  • Score: -2

8:32am Sat 5 Apr 14

loosehead says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Put on a Shuttle service, why have so many cars going into a small space to collect passengers.

Several small 'luxury' shuttles is far better than hundreds of taxis.

These people have been stuck on boat for days, they will be grateful of the scenery, rather than looking out at water.
I suggested a similar thing in another article on this subject.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Put on a Shuttle service, why have so many cars going into a small space to collect passengers. Several small 'luxury' shuttles is far better than hundreds of taxis. These people have been stuck on boat for days, they will be grateful of the scenery, rather than looking out at water.[/p][/quote]I suggested a similar thing in another article on this subject. loosehead
  • Score: -2

9:31am Sat 5 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Maine Lobster wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks.
.
Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks.
.
Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway

When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time
Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?
Well said Main Lobster .......... What a pity that the TRUTH we post gets in the way of the utter cr@p that is dished out from certain quarters.
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On top of that i have a new friend and follower ....... I think his name is loosehead !!!
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friend & follower? would you like to elaborate on that?
No ..... It was a joke ..... but we MAY have agreed on something
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maine Lobster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Rather than there being "chaos" as the Tory led Daily Echo seems to suggest ..... i have been told that the traffic has been similar to any normal cruise day without the roadworks. . Dock gate 4 always is congested when the cruise ships are in ...... only at the middle of last year i sat in traffic from close to Brunswick Place to South Western House ...... WITHOUT roadworks. .[/p][/quote]Yes your right, What traffic, I picked my parents up of the Azure. Straight in and straight out. They got of the boat and within half an hour we were getting on the motorway When going into the ocean terminal. The entrance road has road works on so traffic is being held up there which I can only imagine will back up to the main road when more people are trying to get in and out at the same time[/p][/quote]Here is the reality. Someone who actually did a cruise terminal drop off and met with limited congestion. Anyone suspicious that the Daily Echo (AKA Daily Royston) is simply trying to whip up a false reality to benefit this pro Tory rag?[/p][/quote]Well said Main Lobster .......... What a pity that the TRUTH we post gets in the way of the utter cr@p that is dished out from certain quarters. . On top of that i have a new friend and follower ....... I think his name is loosehead !!! .[/p][/quote]friend & follower? would you like to elaborate on that?[/p][/quote]No ..... It was a joke ..... but we MAY have agreed on something Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

7:28pm Sat 5 Apr 14

lisa whitemore says...

On the inside wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Not only that, she is astonishingly stupid. Maybe se can get someone to explain to her the common usage of 'a' and 'the'. Anyone would think she was not really British.
Yaaaawn.....'sigh' Goodness gracious me, You two have nothing better to do than jump on my comments... Once again the hidden keyboard warriors on the attack.....! Well done for your observations of my 'english' you are
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Not only that, she is astonishingly stupid. Maybe se can get someone to explain to her the common usage of 'a' and 'the'. Anyone would think she was not really British.[/p][/quote]Yaaaawn.....'sigh' Goodness gracious me, You two have nothing better to do than jump on my comments... Once again the hidden keyboard warriors on the attack.....! Well done for your observations of my 'english' you are lisa whitemore
  • Score: -1

8:02pm Sat 5 Apr 14

lisa whitemore says...

On the inside wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Not only that, she is astonishingly stupid. Maybe se can get someone to explain to her the common usage of 'a' and 'the'. Anyone would think she was not really British.
Yawn... 'sigh' you both must sit and wait for people to voice opinion then go in to attack like pair of vultures. You are really beginning to get boring now...... May i suggest you could find something to do out in the community, rather than sit hiding behind your computers with (annom identity) ready to swoop in on your prey....... the likes of myself & The people of southampton, who want this city back running along with vision of a fairer run council with people who do work in our best interests . As for a witch doctor,i seem to remember a nurse posting on this site annon...im led to believe she has direct links to a spin doctor as for me i'm Just out to get the truth as this current council seem to have trouble speaking the truth as was proven!! Or are you going to deny that too?? Now if you don't mind ive got things to do..ttfn
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Not only that, she is astonishingly stupid. Maybe se can get someone to explain to her the common usage of 'a' and 'the'. Anyone would think she was not really British.[/p][/quote]Yawn... 'sigh' you both must sit and wait for people to voice opinion then go in to attack like pair of vultures. You are really beginning to get boring now...... May i suggest you could find something to do out in the community, rather than sit hiding behind your computers with (annom identity) ready to swoop in on your prey....... the likes of myself & The people of southampton, who want this city back running along with vision of a fairer run council with people who do work in our best interests . As for a witch doctor,i seem to remember a nurse posting on this site annon...im led to believe she has direct links to a spin doctor as for me i'm Just out to get the truth as this current council seem to have trouble speaking the truth as was proven!! Or are you going to deny that too?? Now if you don't mind ive got things to do..ttfn lisa whitemore
  • Score: -1

8:40pm Sat 5 Apr 14

lisa whitemore says...

durkiboy wrote:
durkiboy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es ..
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How is that for you ?.
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*slow clap*

You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.
What insults ??
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If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain.
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If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken
I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council.......
Lisa even!!!
I Am always verbally abused by two people on here whenever i say my piece, i no longer rise to their bully tactics and intimidation. And Lone knows this as i campaigned to stop my Dads job being deleted after 42 yrs just so they could evict him from our home of 26 years Unfortunately because keith resigned at the same time which then led to lying to public and whole labour council knowingly covered up for previous council leader who then resigned after being found guilty of the accusations against him. The whole Council should have gone as they all knew exactly what they were doing. The are not capable of running this city, its now a total shambles. If they concentrated on working in our best interest instead of battling with opposition it might have been ok. I along with nearly 3000 supporters opposed the decision of deleting my Dads position but they wouldnt even listen. Sorry but this past cple of years this council has ruined my dads whole career as Cemetery Superintendant of 42 yrs. Ruthlessly evicting my parents,refusin to communicate or help them move and i believe purposly held back a lot of his entitlements. That is how they rewarded a man who only ever did his best and beyond his job providing an excellent service for Cemeteries for 42years . So yes i could keep on With many more grievances ive endured in 24 mnths.I went and asked them for help and they all lied to my face and a then cabinet member's wife felt it was her place to reveal private information on this site annonmously and then label southampton people of being inbred cretins with nothing better to do than support my misleading campaign....Surely that in itself should have been cause for an apology but no Councillor Thorpe stood by his wife with her refusal. Again that should never have been acceptable behaviour from someone in office surely? Lone dont even waste your time with anymore garble please!
[quote][p][bold]durkiboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durkiboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand.[/p][/quote]G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es .. . How is that for you ?. .[/p][/quote]*slow clap* You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.[/p][/quote]What insults ?? . If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain. . If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken[/p][/quote]I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council.......[/p][/quote]Lisa even!!![/p][/quote]I Am always verbally abused by two people on here whenever i say my piece, i no longer rise to their bully tactics and intimidation. And Lone knows this as i campaigned to stop my Dads job being deleted after 42 yrs just so they could evict him from our home of 26 years Unfortunately because keith resigned at the same time which then led to lying to public and whole labour council knowingly covered up for previous council leader who then resigned after being found guilty of the accusations against him. The whole Council should have gone as they all knew exactly what they were doing. The are not capable of running this city, its now a total shambles. If they concentrated on working in our best interest instead of battling with opposition it might have been ok. I along with nearly 3000 supporters opposed the decision of deleting my Dads position but they wouldnt even listen. Sorry but this past cple of years this council has ruined my dads whole career as Cemetery Superintendant of 42 yrs. Ruthlessly evicting my parents,refusin to communicate or help them move and i believe purposly held back a lot of his entitlements. That is how they rewarded a man who only ever did his best and beyond his job providing an excellent service for Cemeteries for 42years . So yes i could keep on With many more grievances ive endured in 24 mnths.I went and asked them for help and they all lied to my face and a then cabinet member's wife felt it was her place to reveal private information on this site annonmously and then label southampton people of being inbred cretins with nothing better to do than support my misleading campaign....Surely that in itself should have been cause for an apology but no Councillor Thorpe stood by his wife with her refusal. Again that should never have been acceptable behaviour from someone in office surely? Lone dont even waste your time with anymore garble please! lisa whitemore
  • Score: 1

9:05pm Sat 5 Apr 14

loosehead says...

lisa whitemore wrote:
durkiboy wrote:
durkiboy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.
Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.
Please expand.
G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es ..
.
How is that for you ?.
.
*slow clap*

You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.
What insults ??
.
If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain.
.
If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken
I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council.......
Lisa even!!!
I Am always verbally abused by two people on here whenever i say my piece, i no longer rise to their bully tactics and intimidation. And Lone knows this as i campaigned to stop my Dads job being deleted after 42 yrs just so they could evict him from our home of 26 years Unfortunately because keith resigned at the same time which then led to lying to public and whole labour council knowingly covered up for previous council leader who then resigned after being found guilty of the accusations against him. The whole Council should have gone as they all knew exactly what they were doing. The are not capable of running this city, its now a total shambles. If they concentrated on working in our best interest instead of battling with opposition it might have been ok. I along with nearly 3000 supporters opposed the decision of deleting my Dads position but they wouldnt even listen. Sorry but this past cple of years this council has ruined my dads whole career as Cemetery Superintendant of 42 yrs. Ruthlessly evicting my parents,refusin to communicate or help them move and i believe purposly held back a lot of his entitlements. That is how they rewarded a man who only ever did his best and beyond his job providing an excellent service for Cemeteries for 42years . So yes i could keep on With many more grievances ive endured in 24 mnths.I went and asked them for help and they all lied to my face and a then cabinet member's wife felt it was her place to reveal private information on this site annonmously and then label southampton people of being inbred cretins with nothing better to do than support my misleading campaign....Surely that in itself should have been cause for an apology but no Councillor Thorpe stood by his wife with her refusal. Again that should never have been acceptable behaviour from someone in office surely? Lone dont even waste your time with anymore garble please!
When I've used my family history to show where I came from & what motivated me & gave me my political point of view I was ripped into so expect the same thing.
These two talk about road disruptions under the Tories well I can only guess they're talking about the widening of western esplanade as dock gate 4 ,Itchen Bridge cycle way happened under this council not the Tory council.
Lisa if you dare to attack this council you're in for a rough ride on these posts/website but don't believe Thomas & Morrell were squeaky clean as they knew before the local elections Labours plans so why did they stand for Labour if they were so against the cuts?
[quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durkiboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]durkiboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: This City is being dragged down by current Council, in more ways than one. We have become laughing stock especially with this roadworks and cruiseliner's. Seeing headlines again for folk to 'Stay Away' Seriously Nobody will want to visit City as its such a Shambles. We have never had these Gridlocks before as serious as they have been last couple years! How long have cruiseliners been docking in Soton?? Uneducated people bought in to replace experienced workers has been worse move by SCC. As a City we have all been let down by this current council, they really dont care about any of residents until its time to vote and i know who i definately wont be voting for thats for sure.[/p][/quote]Goodness me ...... are you a "Spin Doctor" for the Tories .......... who actually caused MORE disruption to this City over four very long years than any other local council EVER did.[/p][/quote]Please expand.[/p][/quote]G o o d n e s s m e ...... a r e y o u a S p I n D o c t o r " f o r t h e T o r I es .. . How is that for you ?. .[/p][/quote]*slow clap* You've proved your ignorance yet again. I simply asked you to expand on your claims but you couldn't… You dish out the insults but can't back up your own comments.[/p][/quote]What insults ?? . If you want proof ... then go and search for it as i do ... its all out there in the Public domain. . If you think that i am going to justify myself and my comments to you .... then you are wildly mistaken[/p][/quote]I think Linda is more than qualified to comment about being let down by the council.......[/p][/quote]Lisa even!!![/p][/quote]I Am always verbally abused by two people on here whenever i say my piece, i no longer rise to their bully tactics and intimidation. And Lone knows this as i campaigned to stop my Dads job being deleted after 42 yrs just so they could evict him from our home of 26 years Unfortunately because keith resigned at the same time which then led to lying to public and whole labour council knowingly covered up for previous council leader who then resigned after being found guilty of the accusations against him. The whole Council should have gone as they all knew exactly what they were doing. The are not capable of running this city, its now a total shambles. If they concentrated on working in our best interest instead of battling with opposition it might have been ok. I along with nearly 3000 supporters opposed the decision of deleting my Dads position but they wouldnt even listen. Sorry but this past cple of years this council has ruined my dads whole career as Cemetery Superintendant of 42 yrs. Ruthlessly evicting my parents,refusin to communicate or help them move and i believe purposly held back a lot of his entitlements. That is how they rewarded a man who only ever did his best and beyond his job providing an excellent service for Cemeteries for 42years . So yes i could keep on With many more grievances ive endured in 24 mnths.I went and asked them for help and they all lied to my face and a then cabinet member's wife felt it was her place to reveal private information on this site annonmously and then label southampton people of being inbred cretins with nothing better to do than support my misleading campaign....Surely that in itself should have been cause for an apology but no Councillor Thorpe stood by his wife with her refusal. Again that should never have been acceptable behaviour from someone in office surely? Lone dont even waste your time with anymore garble please![/p][/quote]When I've used my family history to show where I came from & what motivated me & gave me my political point of view I was ripped into so expect the same thing. These two talk about road disruptions under the Tories well I can only guess they're talking about the widening of western esplanade as dock gate 4 ,Itchen Bridge cycle way happened under this council not the Tory council. Lisa if you dare to attack this council you're in for a rough ride on these posts/website but don't believe Thomas & Morrell were squeaky clean as they knew before the local elections Labours plans so why did they stand for Labour if they were so against the cuts? loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:08pm Sat 5 Apr 14

loosehead says...

Usually on these posts I get accused of making the insults but take a look at the real culprits answering Lisa's post all Left wingers aren't they? Thank You for proving me right & showing how the left can't take criticism what so ever.
Usually on these posts I get accused of making the insults but take a look at the real culprits answering Lisa's post all Left wingers aren't they? Thank You for proving me right & showing how the left can't take criticism what so ever. loosehead
  • Score: -1

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