Hampshire MP Steve Brine calls for rules over term time holidays to be relaxed

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PARENTS of younger children should be given more freedom to go on holiday during term time, a Hampshire MP said.

Steve Brine, pictured below, the Winchester MP, broke ranks to call for ultra-strict rules to be relaxed for children aged six and under.

The Conservative MP criticised his own Government for “meddling in this area”, by banning headteachers from allowing any breaks outside the allotted school holidays.

Mr Brine said: “Although we know that school attendance is important, we also know that parents are not daft.

“A constituent of mine, who is a governor at a primary school in Winchester, said to me that the changes to the rules are an insult to his intelligence and discretion – he would never dream of taking a child out of school at a crucial time.

“I find it perplexing that a Conservative Government are meddling in this area full stop, but we should think especially about the early years - reception and Year 1.

“Do we really need to come down on headteachers and question their integrity in the way that we appear to be doing?”

The comments come amid growing public anger about the soaring cost of going away during the school holidays, with firms accused of profiteering.

More than 100,000 people signed an e-petition – calling for a cap on increases compared with term times – triggering a Commons debate.

In response, Education Secretary Michael Gove criticised holiday companies which ramped up their prices – urging them to “look in the mirror”.

However, Mr Gove strongly defended new guidelines, issued last year, that removed the discretion for heads to allow a maximum of ten days absence during the school year.

And he said: “It’s wrong to take children out of school when they should be at school because it’s important that we make sure that children learn.”

Instead, the Government has argued the solution is the new power for individual schools to stage holidays at different times.

Mr Gove added: “Schools now have the freedom to change their term dates in order to allow students and families the opportunity to go on holiday at different times.”

Academies have the power to set their own term dates, but the Education Secretary said he wanted all schools to have the same flexibility.

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11:31am Sun 6 Apr 14

kyrrie says...

The new rule is rediculous all that is happening is that people are lying and calling in sick for their children when taking a holiday. And as for school being able to choose there own term dates, it makes no sense as a lot of people have children at different schools so to be able to go away as a family would mean one of the children would still be taken out of school as the dates would be different so how would this work. I totally agree with this mp the rules need to be relaxed the 10 day rule used to work really well. We all want our children to have a good education but I don't see that taking a holiday in term time harms them so long as you are sensible as to when you take it.
The new rule is rediculous all that is happening is that people are lying and calling in sick for their children when taking a holiday. And as for school being able to choose there own term dates, it makes no sense as a lot of people have children at different schools so to be able to go away as a family would mean one of the children would still be taken out of school as the dates would be different so how would this work. I totally agree with this mp the rules need to be relaxed the 10 day rule used to work really well. We all want our children to have a good education but I don't see that taking a holiday in term time harms them so long as you are sensible as to when you take it. kyrrie
  • Score: 5

11:41am Sun 6 Apr 14

bighit2011 says...

I have just taken our 2 young children out of school for a week to Cornwall and whilst we were there we managed to find a museum dedicated to the blitz and the Victorian times, so although we were in holiday the children were still able to learn about history and we took loads of photographs so the children can take their findings back into school with them.!! Taking children out of school for holidays can always be educational to them as they will learn about the different cultures, religions etc! And to be honest they would properly learn a lot more than sitting in a classroom reading about things from a text book .
Our children are 4 and 7 yrs, I can see a problem taking them out of school if they were sitting their exams, but they're not. The 4yr is only in foundation so he's only learning through play anyway!! Parents should be entitled to 3 weeks hoilday a year without the school having a problem with it! This is another reason why I have looked in to home schooling, along with many of my friends!!!
I have just taken our 2 young children out of school for a week to Cornwall and whilst we were there we managed to find a museum dedicated to the blitz and the Victorian times, so although we were in holiday the children were still able to learn about history and we took loads of photographs so the children can take their findings back into school with them.!! Taking children out of school for holidays can always be educational to them as they will learn about the different cultures, religions etc! And to be honest they would properly learn a lot more than sitting in a classroom reading about things from a text book . Our children are 4 and 7 yrs, I can see a problem taking them out of school if they were sitting their exams, but they're not. The 4yr is only in foundation so he's only learning through play anyway!! Parents should be entitled to 3 weeks hoilday a year without the school having a problem with it! This is another reason why I have looked in to home schooling, along with many of my friends!!! bighit2011
  • Score: 9

11:52am Sun 6 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

If my parents hadn't taken my siblings and I out of school, during term time, we would never have had a holiday.
Being one of eight children, my mum had to stay home, whilst my dad worked, scrimped and saved, so that we kids could have the holidays and the many happy memories that go with them.
How many children are being denied that opportunity by the draconian laws, now in place?
The world knows that these kids won't get too many opportunities to pay for their own holidays, once out of education, because of the depleted job market, so why deprive them now?
If my parents hadn't taken my siblings and I out of school, during term time, we would never have had a holiday. Being one of eight children, my mum had to stay home, whilst my dad worked, scrimped and saved, so that we kids could have the holidays and the many happy memories that go with them. How many children are being denied that opportunity by the draconian laws, now in place? The world knows that these kids won't get too many opportunities to pay for their own holidays, once out of education, because of the depleted job market, so why deprive them now? Costa Baz
  • Score: 7

12:05pm Sun 6 Apr 14

George4th says...

Amazing!
This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down).
What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh!

Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school?
Amazing! This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down). What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh! Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school? George4th
  • Score: -14

12:30pm Sun 6 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday. sotonboy84
  • Score: -12

12:43pm Sun 6 Apr 14

hays1179 says...

for me the difference in price is £1000 between taken them in term time and taking them in school holidays its a joke
for me the difference in price is £1000 between taken them in term time and taking them in school holidays its a joke hays1179
  • Score: 22

12:47pm Sun 6 Apr 14

thomasupton says...

George4th wrote:
Amazing!
This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down).
What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh!

Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school?
I guess you don't pay income tax?
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Amazing! This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down). What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh! Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school?[/p][/quote]I guess you don't pay income tax? thomasupton
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Sun 6 Apr 14

freefinker says...

bighit2011 wrote:
I have just taken our 2 young children out of school for a week to Cornwall and whilst we were there we managed to find a museum dedicated to the blitz and the Victorian times, so although we were in holiday the children were still able to learn about history and we took loads of photographs so the children can take their findings back into school with them.!! Taking children out of school for holidays can always be educational to them as they will learn about the different cultures, religions etc! And to be honest they would properly learn a lot more than sitting in a classroom reading about things from a text book .
Our children are 4 and 7 yrs, I can see a problem taking them out of school if they were sitting their exams, but they're not. The 4yr is only in foundation so he's only learning through play anyway!! Parents should be entitled to 3 weeks hoilday a year without the school having a problem with it! This is another reason why I have looked in to home schooling, along with many of my friends!!!
.. and, of course, I suppose 'a museum dedicated to the blitz and the Victorian times' just would vanish into thin air if you took your kids in the school holidays?
[quote][p][bold]bighit2011[/bold] wrote: I have just taken our 2 young children out of school for a week to Cornwall and whilst we were there we managed to find a museum dedicated to the blitz and the Victorian times, so although we were in holiday the children were still able to learn about history and we took loads of photographs so the children can take their findings back into school with them.!! Taking children out of school for holidays can always be educational to them as they will learn about the different cultures, religions etc! And to be honest they would properly learn a lot more than sitting in a classroom reading about things from a text book . Our children are 4 and 7 yrs, I can see a problem taking them out of school if they were sitting their exams, but they're not. The 4yr is only in foundation so he's only learning through play anyway!! Parents should be entitled to 3 weeks hoilday a year without the school having a problem with it! This is another reason why I have looked in to home schooling, along with many of my friends!!![/p][/quote].. and, of course, I suppose 'a museum dedicated to the blitz and the Victorian times' just would vanish into thin air if you took your kids in the school holidays? freefinker
  • Score: 0

3:53pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Reality-man says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84 Reality-man
  • Score: 10

3:53pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Reality-man says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84 Reality-man
  • Score: -1

4:50pm Sun 6 Apr 14

cmth40 says...

well so many gits that no doubt have money to pay the top pricves so what if a child gets a break WITH MUM AND DAD as many parents cant get time off in school hjolidays and all DECENT PARENTS wouldnt take children out of school at exam times any way,ITS THE HEAD MASTER/MISTRESS THAT KNOW THE HONEST HARD WORKING PARENT AND THEIR CHILDREN, in fact as far as the child is concerned a head of a school plus teachers know more about the child than parents so leave it to the school to decide not the bloody **** up every thing he touches MR GOVE a untrained mouth in all area,s,LET THE SCHOOL DECIDE
well so many gits that no doubt have money to pay the top pricves so what if a child gets a break WITH MUM AND DAD as many parents cant get time off in school hjolidays and all DECENT PARENTS wouldnt take children out of school at exam times any way,ITS THE HEAD MASTER/MISTRESS THAT KNOW THE HONEST HARD WORKING PARENT AND THEIR CHILDREN, in fact as far as the child is concerned a head of a school plus teachers know more about the child than parents so leave it to the school to decide not the bloody **** up every thing he touches MR GOVE a untrained mouth in all area,s,LET THE SCHOOL DECIDE cmth40
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Sun 6 Apr 14

mickey01 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
If my parents hadn't taken my siblings and I out of school, during term time, we would never have had a holiday.
Being one of eight children, my mum had to stay home, whilst my dad worked, scrimped and saved, so that we kids could have the holidays and the many happy memories that go with them.
How many children are being denied that opportunity by the draconian laws, now in place?
The world knows that these kids won't get too many opportunities to pay for their own holidays, once out of education, because of the depleted job market, so why deprive them now?
since when does school come second in the life of our kids ! no wonder we are falling behind other countries in education and beyond it seems that these days schooling is an inconvenience to our life which is all wrong and that is why this country is going down hill
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: If my parents hadn't taken my siblings and I out of school, during term time, we would never have had a holiday. Being one of eight children, my mum had to stay home, whilst my dad worked, scrimped and saved, so that we kids could have the holidays and the many happy memories that go with them. How many children are being denied that opportunity by the draconian laws, now in place? The world knows that these kids won't get too many opportunities to pay for their own holidays, once out of education, because of the depleted job market, so why deprive them now?[/p][/quote]since when does school come second in the life of our kids ! no wonder we are falling behind other countries in education and beyond it seems that these days schooling is an inconvenience to our life which is all wrong and that is why this country is going down hill mickey01
  • Score: -3

5:13pm Sun 6 Apr 14

mickey01 says...

hays1179 wrote:
for me the difference in price is £1000 between taken them in term time and taking them in school holidays its a joke
yea but they spend the difference on a flat screen tv or other unessential items which do not add to their childs education so in the end its all for the parents sake and **** the kids education
[quote][p][bold]hays1179[/bold] wrote: for me the difference in price is £1000 between taken them in term time and taking them in school holidays its a joke[/p][/quote]yea but they spend the difference on a flat screen tv or other unessential items which do not add to their childs education so in the end its all for the parents sake and **** the kids education mickey01
  • Score: -9

5:13pm Sun 6 Apr 14

mesaint says...

George4th wrote:
Amazing!
This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down).
What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh!

Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school?
Yes I do take my kids out of school.yes I do pay for their education.as I pay taxes.so do you unless your unemployed...oh but teachers think it's ok to take inset days and go on strike..we tell our kids don't kick a fuss if they don't get what they want..then teachers do just that..good example that..??kids out at term time up to 3weeks a year..lord sugar did not Finnish school I believe...and did him harm eh?
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Amazing! This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down). What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh! Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school?[/p][/quote]Yes I do take my kids out of school.yes I do pay for their education.as I pay taxes.so do you unless your unemployed...oh but teachers think it's ok to take inset days and go on strike..we tell our kids don't kick a fuss if they don't get what they want..then teachers do just that..good example that..??kids out at term time up to 3weeks a year..lord sugar did not Finnish school I believe...and did him harm eh? mesaint
  • Score: 3

5:51pm Sun 6 Apr 14

RealTalkSouthampton says...

Being a school governor for over 3 years I can see both sides of the coin. The state can see the country slipping down the global pecking order in this knowledge based global economy. Whereas your average man/woman on the street is worried about household bills and fitting more into the day.

Why is this happening. Because as a nation we are very complacent and how things very cosy. A child in developing India would consider education(if they could get it) an opportunity escape poverty and have a better standard of living. In this country education is like a hobby. Now this doesn't apply to everybody but if you go into schools classrooms here and then some in the developing world, you will see where I'm coming from.

So people need to realise that due to modern technology the rest of the world is catching up. So if we stand still following the status quo , the cheapest holiday might be staying at home and going to the new forest.
Being a school governor for over 3 years I can see both sides of the coin. The state can see the country slipping down the global pecking order in this knowledge based global economy. Whereas your average man/woman on the street is worried about household bills and fitting more into the day. Why is this happening. Because as a nation we are very complacent and how things very cosy. A child in developing India would consider education(if they could get it) an opportunity escape poverty and have a better standard of living. In this country education is like a hobby. Now this doesn't apply to everybody but if you go into schools classrooms here and then some in the developing world, you will see where I'm coming from. So people need to realise that due to modern technology the rest of the world is catching up. So if we stand still following the status quo , the cheapest holiday might be staying at home and going to the new forest. RealTalkSouthampton
  • Score: 3

6:11pm Sun 6 Apr 14

madmandy says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
But we all complain about family value have gone in england and children don't respect each other. Having a holidays with family so important they can have fun with their parents .I found my children become relax and happy on holiday, they mix with different people they would not mix with normanly which is lifeskills and education it self . sorry but family that work hard deserve a break together and unfortunately school holidays are too much to pay for low income .by the way my family are grown up now .
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]But we all complain about family value have gone in england and children don't respect each other. Having a holidays with family so important they can have fun with their parents .I found my children become relax and happy on holiday, they mix with different people they would not mix with normanly which is lifeskills and education it self . sorry but family that work hard deserve a break together and unfortunately school holidays are too much to pay for low income .by the way my family are grown up now . madmandy
  • Score: 4

6:22pm Sun 6 Apr 14

bighit2011 says...

Well I personally think there is nothing wrong with taking kids out in term time! Teachers are allowed to strike, but god forbid if we took our children away we get threatened with fines, it's an absolute joke!!!!
Well I personally think there is nothing wrong with taking kids out in term time! Teachers are allowed to strike, but god forbid if we took our children away we get threatened with fines, it's an absolute joke!!!! bighit2011
  • Score: 7

6:52pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Kyoboshi says...

I refuse to pay the hiked up prices you pay during school holidays, it's taking the pi$$, so I will be taking my 8 year old out of school to go one way or another, memories and family time are important too and I will put time in to help my child catch up the week missed.
I refuse to pay the hiked up prices you pay during school holidays, it's taking the pi$$, so I will be taking my 8 year old out of school to go one way or another, memories and family time are important too and I will put time in to help my child catch up the week missed. Kyoboshi
  • Score: 7

6:57pm Sun 6 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

George4th wrote:
Amazing!
This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down).
What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh!

Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school?
Yes
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Amazing! This country has slipped so far down the Global education league tables as to almost be off the scale! (OK, slight exaggeration but we are way down). What's the solution? Let parents take their children out of school! Duh! Here's a question - if you were paying for your child's education would you take your child out of school?[/p][/quote]Yes elvisimo
  • Score: 1

7:01pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Nod says...

As a parent I firmly believe that the prices should be evened out. Fine the Idiot parents that don't value their children's education the difference in value of the holiday.

They chose to have children. They should give then the best chance by letting them have a full education.
As a parent I firmly believe that the prices should be evened out. Fine the Idiot parents that don't value their children's education the difference in value of the holiday. They chose to have children. They should give then the best chance by letting them have a full education. Nod
  • Score: -4

7:02pm Sun 6 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

madmandy wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
But we all complain about family value have gone in england and children don't respect each other. Having a holidays with family so important they can have fun with their parents .I found my children become relax and happy on holiday, they mix with different people they would not mix with normanly which is lifeskills and education it self . sorry but family that work hard deserve a break together and unfortunately school holidays are too much to pay for low income .by the way my family are grown up now .
You are correct. We were always taken out do school for holidays. It was the only way they could be afforded. You have to be mindful of exams. We always went in the period after exams and end of school term. Haven't done too badly. Get a bit of perspective.
[quote][p][bold]madmandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]But we all complain about family value have gone in england and children don't respect each other. Having a holidays with family so important they can have fun with their parents .I found my children become relax and happy on holiday, they mix with different people they would not mix with normanly which is lifeskills and education it self . sorry but family that work hard deserve a break together and unfortunately school holidays are too much to pay for low income .by the way my family are grown up now .[/p][/quote]You are correct. We were always taken out do school for holidays. It was the only way they could be afforded. You have to be mindful of exams. We always went in the period after exams and end of school term. Haven't done too badly. Get a bit of perspective. elvisimo
  • Score: 7

8:48pm Sun 6 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Bad parents take their children out of school at such a vital stage of their education.

It's selfish in the extreme, imho.

The same parents are the ones that, 9 times out of 10 complain about standards of teaching when little Jonny fails to make the grade.

Wake up people to what you are doing to your children. It has been proven that children are seriously disadvantaged educationally of they are taken out f lessons.
Bad parents take their children out of school at such a vital stage of their education. It's selfish in the extreme, imho. The same parents are the ones that, 9 times out of 10 complain about standards of teaching when little Jonny fails to make the grade. Wake up people to what you are doing to your children. It has been proven that children are seriously disadvantaged educationally of they are taken out f lessons. S Pance
  • Score: -6

10:39pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

mickey01 wrote:
Costa Baz wrote: If my parents hadn't taken my siblings and I out of school, during term time, we would never have had a holiday. Being one of eight children, my mum had to stay home, whilst my dad worked, scrimped and saved, so that we kids could have the holidays and the many happy memories that go with them. How many children are being denied that opportunity by the draconian laws, now in place? The world knows that these kids won't get too many opportunities to pay for their own holidays, once out of education, because of the depleted job market, so why deprive them now?
since when does school come second in the life of our kids ! no wonder we are falling behind other countries in education and beyond it seems that these days schooling is an inconvenience to our life which is all wrong and that is why this country is going down hill
If we are falling behind other countries, in education, how can it be proved that taking kids out of school is the cause?

I come from an era when it was common practice, to take kids on holiday during term time. And do you know what? During that era this country was NOT behind others in terms of education.
How can the schools and government tell us, every year, that education standards are improving, year on year, based on exam results, yet then claim that taking kids out of school is causing standards to fall?
It doesn't figure.

I spent many years working with school leavers, so have good awareness of the educational standards being achieved, and their familial backgrounds.
And in my experience, many that did have low standards, came from families that couldn't afford to take holidays, let alone holidays in term time.

As others have said, other countries have closed the gap and surpassed us, owing to having improved their own standards.
And possibly due, in poorer countries, to them having fewer distractions, as in smart phones, computers, game boys etc, that "stop" them from doing homework/ home studies.
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: If my parents hadn't taken my siblings and I out of school, during term time, we would never have had a holiday. Being one of eight children, my mum had to stay home, whilst my dad worked, scrimped and saved, so that we kids could have the holidays and the many happy memories that go with them. How many children are being denied that opportunity by the draconian laws, now in place? The world knows that these kids won't get too many opportunities to pay for their own holidays, once out of education, because of the depleted job market, so why deprive them now?[/p][/quote]since when does school come second in the life of our kids ! no wonder we are falling behind other countries in education and beyond it seems that these days schooling is an inconvenience to our life which is all wrong and that is why this country is going down hill[/p][/quote]If we are falling behind other countries, in education, how can it be proved that taking kids out of school is the cause? I come from an era when it was common practice, to take kids on holiday during term time. And do you know what? During that era this country was NOT behind others in terms of education. How can the schools and government tell us, every year, that education standards are improving, year on year, based on exam results, yet then claim that taking kids out of school is causing standards to fall? It doesn't figure. I spent many years working with school leavers, so have good awareness of the educational standards being achieved, and their familial backgrounds. And in my experience, many that did have low standards, came from families that couldn't afford to take holidays, let alone holidays in term time. As others have said, other countries have closed the gap and surpassed us, owing to having improved their own standards. And possibly due, in poorer countries, to them having fewer distractions, as in smart phones, computers, game boys etc, that "stop" them from doing homework/ home studies. Costa Baz
  • Score: 2

9:34am Mon 7 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Reality-man wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84
The only ill-educated comments are those moaning about the prices of holiday during school holidays. Holiday companies are business and like any business increase prices at peak time.

The rules around holidays during term time are there to protect children's education. If parents want to sit in the sun for a week and go when holiday's are cheaper they obviously value a holiday more than their child's education.

Ridiculous. A holiday is a luxury, it's not essential. If you can't afford children, don't have them.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84[/p][/quote]The only ill-educated comments are those moaning about the prices of holiday during school holidays. Holiday companies are business and like any business increase prices at peak time. The rules around holidays during term time are there to protect children's education. If parents want to sit in the sun for a week and go when holiday's are cheaper they obviously value a holiday more than their child's education. Ridiculous. A holiday is a luxury, it's not essential. If you can't afford children, don't have them. sotonboy84
  • Score: -1

9:38am Mon 7 Apr 14

wwozzer says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
Despite your comment being down voted 11 times I tend to agree with you.

If parents budgets equate to lanzarote in term time or Cornwall in the school holidays then they know where they should be going. Most kids don't care less as long as they get a holiday and I do believe a lot of parents are being selfish.

One more thing, we have 4 children of school age between us and we're happily off to Cornwall in august.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]Despite your comment being down voted 11 times I tend to agree with you. If parents budgets equate to lanzarote in term time or Cornwall in the school holidays then they know where they should be going. Most kids don't care less as long as they get a holiday and I do believe a lot of parents are being selfish. One more thing, we have 4 children of school age between us and we're happily off to Cornwall in august. wwozzer
  • Score: 0

9:41am Mon 7 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

madmandy wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
But we all complain about family value have gone in england and children don't respect each other. Having a holidays with family so important they can have fun with their parents .I found my children become relax and happy on holiday, they mix with different people they would not mix with normanly which is lifeskills and education it self . sorry but family that work hard deserve a break together and unfortunately school holidays are too much to pay for low income .by the way my family are grown up now .
So what about taking time off during school holidays and taking your children somewhere that's affordable? There are many local places to go to for days out that don't cost a lot of money.

The children still get their education and you get time with your family.
[quote][p][bold]madmandy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]But we all complain about family value have gone in england and children don't respect each other. Having a holidays with family so important they can have fun with their parents .I found my children become relax and happy on holiday, they mix with different people they would not mix with normanly which is lifeskills and education it self . sorry but family that work hard deserve a break together and unfortunately school holidays are too much to pay for low income .by the way my family are grown up now .[/p][/quote]So what about taking time off during school holidays and taking your children somewhere that's affordable? There are many local places to go to for days out that don't cost a lot of money. The children still get their education and you get time with your family. sotonboy84
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9:47am Mon 7 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

wwozzer wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
Despite your comment being down voted 11 times I tend to agree with you.

If parents budgets equate to lanzarote in term time or Cornwall in the school holidays then they know where they should be going. Most kids don't care less as long as they get a holiday and I do believe a lot of parents are being selfish.

One more thing, we have 4 children of school age between us and we're happily off to Cornwall in august.
Down voted due to the amount of parents that think they're correct in taking their children out of school!

Education comes first and holiday's come second. As you've demonstrated, you take your children where you can afford to go because the point in holidays are to have a break, see new things and relax. Holiday's can be taken anywhere, and can be taken at home and local day trips if money is tight (or if foreign holidays are too expensive).

If they believe it or not, some of these parents obviously value 'their' holidays more than their children's education and they're just trying to justify this.
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]Despite your comment being down voted 11 times I tend to agree with you. If parents budgets equate to lanzarote in term time or Cornwall in the school holidays then they know where they should be going. Most kids don't care less as long as they get a holiday and I do believe a lot of parents are being selfish. One more thing, we have 4 children of school age between us and we're happily off to Cornwall in august.[/p][/quote]Down voted due to the amount of parents that think they're correct in taking their children out of school! Education comes first and holiday's come second. As you've demonstrated, you take your children where you can afford to go because the point in holidays are to have a break, see new things and relax. Holiday's can be taken anywhere, and can be taken at home and local day trips if money is tight (or if foreign holidays are too expensive). If they believe it or not, some of these parents obviously value 'their' holidays more than their children's education and they're just trying to justify this. sotonboy84
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11:29am Mon 7 Apr 14

ameliaS says...

I though there was supposed to be a cost of living crisis. Apparently not, if people are even considering a holiday at all!
I though there was supposed to be a cost of living crisis. Apparently not, if people are even considering a holiday at all! ameliaS
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1:55pm Mon 7 Apr 14

From the sidelines says...

I quick sampling of the comments shows a high correlation between those comments that support taking children out of school, and those comments full of grammatical and spelling errors.

I suspect a causal mechanism at work.
I quick sampling of the comments shows a high correlation between those comments that support taking children out of school, and those comments full of grammatical and spelling errors. I suspect a causal mechanism at work. From the sidelines
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5:43pm Mon 7 Apr 14

East stand benches says...

I've just booked 10 days in Spain at the back end of August for my family. Flybe's price for this is £1200. Had I chosen to go 1week later, the flights would have been £600. The apartment is also £200 dearer than term time. As much as I could well do without this rip off culture that airlines and travel companies are sucking us into, I would not take my son out of school. The issue here is not with the schools/governments policies, it's with the afore mentioned racketeers! But hey ho, supply and demand I suppose?
I've just booked 10 days in Spain at the back end of August for my family. Flybe's price for this is £1200. Had I chosen to go 1week later, the flights would have been £600. The apartment is also £200 dearer than term time. As much as I could well do without this rip off culture that airlines and travel companies are sucking us into, I would not take my son out of school. The issue here is not with the schools/governments policies, it's with the afore mentioned racketeers! But hey ho, supply and demand I suppose? East stand benches
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6:13pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Reality-man says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Reality-man wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.
Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84
The only ill-educated comments are those moaning about the prices of holiday during school holidays. Holiday companies are business and like any business increase prices at peak time.

The rules around holidays during term time are there to protect children's education. If parents want to sit in the sun for a week and go when holiday's are cheaper they obviously value a holiday more than their child's education.

Ridiculous. A holiday is a luxury, it's not essential. If you can't afford children, don't have them.
Thank you for confirming my original thoughts. You sir are a fool
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: Maybe these parents should begin to value their child's education & put that before their own want for a holiday.[/p][/quote]Someone had to make the obvious ill-educated comment. Congratulations Sotonboy84[/p][/quote]The only ill-educated comments are those moaning about the prices of holiday during school holidays. Holiday companies are business and like any business increase prices at peak time. The rules around holidays during term time are there to protect children's education. If parents want to sit in the sun for a week and go when holiday's are cheaper they obviously value a holiday more than their child's education. Ridiculous. A holiday is a luxury, it's not essential. If you can't afford children, don't have them.[/p][/quote]Thank you for confirming my original thoughts. You sir are a fool Reality-man
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