10 forgotten Southampton landmarks

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SOUTHAMPTON has changed in many ways over the years, and here are some of the more notable landmarks which have vanished over the decades.

Stag Gates

Daily Echo: Stag Gates

These were sited at what is now the junction between Lodge Road and The Avenue. Originally built around 1845, they were the entrance to the Bevois Mount, a large country estate and house.

The house itself was located on what is now a fitness club on the north side of Lodge Road. William Betts, had them erected when he owned the property, which itself was built around 1723.

The gate pillars were demolished in the 1920s when Lodge Road was being widened, but the metal gates themselves had long before been moved to the cemetery on The Common. Even today, many Sotonians refer to the junction as “Stag Gates”.

The Stadium, Banister Court

Daily Echo: Southampton Stadium

This was the home of speedway and greyhound racing in Southampton. It originally opened in 1928 and was the base for Saints, Southampton’s very own speedway team, although it also featured stock car racing and even boxing matches over the years. The track was 440 yards in length but later shortened to 333yds.

It was claimed the stadium could hold as many as 20,000 people for certain events. Both the speedway team and the greyhound racing quit the site in 1963. At the same time, the venue was taken over by the Rank Organisation and soon sold for housing.

Ice Rink

Daily Echo: Southampton Ice Rink

The Ice Rink was built next to the Stadium, and first opened its doors in 1931. The first ice hockey match was between the Southampton Saints and Bournemouth. The 3,000 capacity venue burnt down in 1940 after bit hit during a German air raid. However, Charles Knott, the owner of the adjacent stadium vowed to build a new ice rink.

The new Sportsdrome opened in 1952. He sold to the Rank Organisation, who initially wanted to turn the whole site into housing, but Knott refused to do business on those terms. As a result, Rank agreed to keep the ice rink along with the bowling alley. The site was later owned by Mecca, and they closed the venue in 1988, shortly after a refurbishment largely done by members of the community. The site is now housing.

Southampton Castle

Daily Echo: A sketch of Southampton Castle in the 19th century, looking south from what is now a car park

Built shortly after the Norman Conquest of England in 1066, Southampton Castle dominated the town. It stood on the western side of the town, overlooking West Bay and the River Test. Originally a timber motte and bailey structure, it was gradually rebuilt as a stone keep during the 12th century, during which the town was seen as a key fortification of the realm.

The town’s walls were improved but little was done with the castle until the 14th century, when it was repaired after years of neglect and even theft of materials by locals who used the timber, stone and metals in their own buildings.

By 1585, the castle was "very ruynaise and in greete decaye". King James I sold the castle to developers in 1615 and later a windmill was built on the motte and stone from the castle was used to improve the town walls. In 1808, a gothic mansion was built on the site by the Marquis of Lansdowne incorporating remains of the keep, but despite its sweeping views, was demolished in 1818 and the motte flattened and a new road – Upper Bugle Street – was constructed through the bailey.

In 1962, the Castle House tower block was built on the site of the keep and motte. Today, only the garderobe tower (part of the castle’s sewerage system) and part of the northern bailey wall survive.

Lido

Daily Echo: Southampton Lido

Built when Western Esplanade was very much an esplanade along the waterfront, the Lido was a popular venue of people of all ages to enjoy the water. Constructed in 1892 to replace the 38-year-old baths, it jutted out from the shore. Even when the Western Docks were constructed and the land reclamation moved the shore several hundred meters away, it remained popular during the summer months.

Later, the lido was sandwiched in between the Pirelli Works and the power station. It hit its peak during its final years, when it broke attendance records during the hot summer of 1976. This however, was not enough to convince the powers-that-be that the Lido was worth the high operating costs. It closed in 1977 and was left empty for four years. Now, the site is occupied by a multi-storey car park and part of the West Quay retail park.

The Dell

Daily Echo: The final match at The Dell in 2001

Home to the Saints for 103 years, The Dell was a bijou venue for top flight football. Built on the site of "a lovely dell with a gurgling stream and lofty aspens", from which the stadium gained its name. Constructed in 1898, the purchase and clearing of the land cost £9,000 and the ground was rented by the football club for £250 a year.

There were many suggestions for the name of the ground, including Fitzhugh Dell, Milton Park and Archer’s Ground, before the The Dell became the de facto identity for the site. Originally it could hold 24,000 spectators and the West Stand, when later reconstructed, was designed by renowned architect Archibald Leitch.

A bomb fell on the Milton Road goal area during the Second World War, rupturing the culvert which carried the Rollsbrook stream under the ground, and flooding the pitch. The record attendance at the ground was over 33,000 for Mick Channon’s testimonial in 1976, but through the 80s and 90s, redevelopment restricted the capacity to just 15,200 by 1995. Saints left The Dell for St Mary’s in 2001 and new homes and flats were built on the site.

Ocean Terminal

Daily Echo: Ocean Terminal

Opened in 1950, the art deco terminal was built alongside the Ocean Dock to serve the burgeoning cruise trade that played a key role at Southampton’s docks. It featured a railway station as well as shops, passenger lounges and bars, as well as facilities for cars, cargo and customs over the two levels.

Although demolished in 1983 – there was talk of the building being listed prior to demolition – the change in travel habits in the proceeding decades had long meant there were questions marks over the need for such a large and ornate building. When being demolished however, the building did put up a fight and managed to ruin a crane and wrecking ball which were meant to bring it down.

In recent years however, Southampton’s cruise business has exploded once again and a new Ocean Terminal was opened in 2009 on the opposite side of the Ocean Dock.

Daily Echo Office

Daily Echo: Daily Echo office at 45 Above Bar Street

For decades, the home of this very publication sat on Above Bar in the heart of Southampton, with many a rendezvous beginning under the clock on the front of the building. This building – which was demolished in the 1990s to make way for WestQuay – was not the first Echo office to stand on the site. In 1914, the original office even displayed a giant map of Europe, which was seen by countless soldiers as they marched off to war.

The original building was destroyed during an air raid in the Second World War – but still the paper came out the following day. The building smelled of newspaper and ink and the floors vibrated when the printing presses were running at full speed, before the Echo vans, which were all lined up along the rear of the press in Portland Terrace raced off to deliver the news throughout the county.

It was demolished in the 1997.

Polygon Hotel

Daily Echo: The Polygon Hotel shortly before demolition

For many years, this was seen as many as the place to stay in Southampton. The Polygon itself was originally envisaged as Southampton’s luxurious answer to Bath’s Royal Crescent – at a time when the site was anything but central. However, only the original hotel and three homes were built before the money ran out in 1773. The final hotel to stand on the site was built in the 1930s.

During the First World War, the heads of the British Expeditionary Force, camped out in the hotel while during the Second World War the Polygon was HQ for the 14th Major Port US army in the lead-up to the D-Day invasion in 1944.

Famous names such as Muhammad Ali and comedians Tommy Cooper and Morecambe and Wise all stayed at the hotel. It was vacated in 1997 and demolished two years later to make way for the flats which now sit on the site.

Pirelli Factory

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Pirelli signed a deal to build the factory in January in 1914, and not long after it opened it was put to work supplying cables for thousands of field telephones used in the trenches of the First World War.

During the Second World War the firm supplied three-and-half-million miles of wire to the Royal Corps of Signals, provided special wiring rigs for the Lancaster bombers and designed and installed a submarine fuel pipeline to deliver fuel for the vehicles involved in the D-Day landings.

Thousands of people worked in the sprawling workshops, which were eventually cleared to make way for WestQuay – although a lot of wasteland left behind now remains and is the site of the planned Watermark WestQuay development, which is due to open in 2016.

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7:50pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Stubs says...

Southampton looked better then.
Southampton looked better then. Stubs
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7:51pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Highfielder says...

What happened to the magnificent double front doors of the old Echo building in Above Bar?
What happened to the magnificent double front doors of the old Echo building in Above Bar? Highfielder
  • Score: 13

8:03pm Fri 11 Apr 14

WarwickNights says...

Six Dials roundabout?
Six Dials roundabout? WarwickNights
  • Score: 11

8:59pm Fri 11 Apr 14

focus19 says...

Shame ABP Couldn't build a replica of the Ocean Terminal =, such a waste of an Iconic building,
Shame ABP Couldn't build a replica of the Ocean Terminal =, such a waste of an Iconic building, focus19
  • Score: 25

7:03am Sat 12 Apr 14

St.Winch70 says...

Nostalgia is often a flawed memory, but Southampton really has lost lots of elements that has only served to diminish it's character. What a shame as the city, has very little left to offer.
Nostalgia is often a flawed memory, but Southampton really has lost lots of elements that has only served to diminish it's character. What a shame as the city, has very little left to offer. St.Winch70
  • Score: 27

7:13am Sat 12 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Not really "forgotten", just gone.
Not really "forgotten", just gone. sotonboy84
  • Score: 20

8:27am Sat 12 Apr 14

loosehead says...

So who'd rather have a Speedway/Greyhound stadium or a Cricket pitch now houses?
So who'd rather have a Speedway/Greyhound stadium or a Cricket pitch now houses? loosehead
  • Score: 3

9:16am Sat 12 Apr 14

St.Winch70 says...

loosehead wrote:
So who'd rather have a Speedway/Greyhound stadium or a Cricket pitch now houses?
Symbolic of how Southampton has not changed for the better!
You should really try to make more sense with your posts.....
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So who'd rather have a Speedway/Greyhound stadium or a Cricket pitch now houses?[/p][/quote]Symbolic of how Southampton has not changed for the better! You should really try to make more sense with your posts..... St.Winch70
  • Score: 10

9:35am Sat 12 Apr 14

10 Minute Man says...

Remarkable how many amenities which were provided and used by the population have gone....only to be replaced by retail units which people are trained to think of as a leisure activity.
Remarkable how many amenities which were provided and used by the population have gone....only to be replaced by retail units which people are trained to think of as a leisure activity. 10 Minute Man
  • Score: 22

9:40am Sat 12 Apr 14

skeptik says...

Pathe :


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Pathe : http://www.britishpa the.com/search/query /southampton skeptik
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10:41am Sat 12 Apr 14

rabson says...

The County Cricket Ground...??
The County Cricket Ground...?? rabson
  • Score: 1

11:28am Sat 12 Apr 14

endzone says...

When did the bird aviary in Andrews park disappear?
When did the bird aviary in Andrews park disappear? endzone
  • Score: 8

2:37pm Sat 12 Apr 14

loosehead says...

St.Winch70 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So who'd rather have a Speedway/Greyhound stadium or a Cricket pitch now houses?
Symbolic of how Southampton has not changed for the better!
You should really try to make more sense with your posts.....
Well I don't remember the speedway/greyhound stadium but I wish I had & we still had it but could see the uproar about noise by residents.
the County cricket ground I fear was sold for a big pay day as were the Top rank/Mecca Dancing & Ice rink for housing is it an asset we should have kept or is it more valuable as housing is the question I was trying to ask.
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So who'd rather have a Speedway/Greyhound stadium or a Cricket pitch now houses?[/p][/quote]Symbolic of how Southampton has not changed for the better! You should really try to make more sense with your posts.....[/p][/quote]Well I don't remember the speedway/greyhound stadium but I wish I had & we still had it but could see the uproar about noise by residents. the County cricket ground I fear was sold for a big pay day as were the Top rank/Mecca Dancing & Ice rink for housing is it an asset we should have kept or is it more valuable as housing is the question I was trying to ask. loosehead
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4:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

thesouth says...

This is because the council let big companies pull what little we have left, down. They agree to these hideous un-designed looking blocks (like the mayflower halls). Nothing but eye sores left now
This is because the council let big companies pull what little we have left, down. They agree to these hideous un-designed looking blocks (like the mayflower halls). Nothing but eye sores left now thesouth
  • Score: 13

5:32pm Sat 12 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

And then along came all the 'landmark' flats and shopping centres!
And then along came all the 'landmark' flats and shopping centres! 03alpe01
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9:15pm Sat 12 Apr 14

loosehead says...

03alpe01 wrote:
And then along came all the 'landmark' flats and shopping centres!
Where Staples is was a go kart track & we had on the other side of the road a helicopter port/pad.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: And then along came all the 'landmark' flats and shopping centres![/p][/quote]Where Staples is was a go kart track & we had on the other side of the road a helicopter port/pad. loosehead
  • Score: 6

10:06pm Sat 12 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

loosehead wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
And then along came all the 'landmark' flats and shopping centres!
Where Staples is was a go kart track & we had on the other side of the road a helicopter port/pad.
sounds much much much better than what is there now!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: And then along came all the 'landmark' flats and shopping centres![/p][/quote]Where Staples is was a go kart track & we had on the other side of the road a helicopter port/pad.[/p][/quote]sounds much much much better than what is there now! 03alpe01
  • Score: 7

11:56pm Sat 12 Apr 14

sjc233 says...

Sadly Southampton is no longer Southampton
Sadly Southampton is no longer Southampton sjc233
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2:19pm Sun 13 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

I remember some of the above so well.
Used to go to the speedway Tuesday Nights
used to go to the Lido / the Banister Ballroom / Tommy Whites / the Kasbah / The bay Tree / Checkers / The Pier / Top Rank / Concorde club Bassett / The Lido Winchester / Green Man Winchester and Many Many more.
Those were great days & unfortunately times move on
I remember some of the above so well. Used to go to the speedway Tuesday Nights used to go to the Lido / the Banister Ballroom / Tommy Whites / the Kasbah / The bay Tree / Checkers / The Pier / Top Rank / Concorde club Bassett / The Lido Winchester / Green Man Winchester and Many Many more. Those were great days & unfortunately times move on bobby the crane
  • Score: 7

5:58pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Hows about the Sports Centre do what, Whats that place!
Hows about the Sports Centre do what, Whats that place! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: -1

9:37am Mon 14 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

Suggest we leaflet outside Burger Max Chicken King Express to remind and advise our 'growing' population of the wonderful parks and Sports Centre in our midst, before they are totally forgotten and lost forever. Otherwise, they will go the way of the other healthy outlets mentioned above.
Suggest we leaflet outside Burger Max Chicken King Express to remind and advise our 'growing' population of the wonderful parks and Sports Centre in our midst, before they are totally forgotten and lost forever. Otherwise, they will go the way of the other healthy outlets mentioned above. lowe esteem
  • Score: 4

11:25am Tue 15 Apr 14

John Smith34 says...

Err hello? Where's McCluskeys??
Err hello? Where's McCluskeys?? John Smith34
  • Score: 1

2:06pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Disallusioned Saint says...

Let's not forget other 'landmarks' such as Southampton Zoo on The Common, Centre Inn (sited on part of the now West Quay complex), the Coach Station in Bedford Place (Zorba's opposite was always a good place for a late night greasy kebab!), the Eye Hospital (visited after a few fracas at The Dell !!), the Tyrell & Green building in Above Bar. Just a few 'iconic' landmarks from the past - gone but not forgetten (at least by myself!!)
Let's not forget other 'landmarks' such as Southampton Zoo on The Common, Centre Inn (sited on part of the now West Quay complex), the Coach Station in Bedford Place (Zorba's opposite was always a good place for a late night greasy kebab!), the Eye Hospital (visited after a few fracas at The Dell !!), the Tyrell & Green building in Above Bar. Just a few 'iconic' landmarks from the past - gone but not forgetten (at least by myself!!) Disallusioned Saint
  • Score: 4

6:37pm Sat 31 May 14

stanleywedge@gmail.com says...

There is a lot more thats not mentioned. What about the Graves of Roman soldiers in Clausentium along the bittern Rd? I visited them ,when they were exhumed , when I was working at HOWARDS the Timber People as a young lad.Yes Southampton was a place of interest then, with te Clock tower The Stage Shows, East Street open Markets and to walk and buy things in the High Street you had to be Well off. Those days You bought Soap by the weight and Milk was bought at the door ,to the Jug you had. Men coming out of the first world war,if injured had no help from Government,and a lot of people were begging in the street. But there I am nearly 99 yrs old .
There is a lot more thats not mentioned. What about the Graves of Roman soldiers in Clausentium along the bittern Rd? I visited them ,when they were exhumed , when I was working at HOWARDS the Timber People as a young lad.Yes Southampton was a place of interest then, with te Clock tower The Stage Shows, East Street open Markets and to walk and buy things in the High Street you had to be Well off. Those days You bought Soap by the weight and Milk was bought at the door ,to the Jug you had. Men coming out of the first world war,if injured had no help from Government,and a lot of people were begging in the street. But there I am nearly 99 yrs old . stanleywedge@gmail.com
  • Score: 1
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