Hundreds of cyclists hit the New Forest

Controversial Wiggle passing through Burley this morning

Controversial Wiggle passing through Burley this morning

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THE CONTROVERSIAL Wiggle New Forest bike ride got underway this morning with hundreds of riders setting off from a Hampshire park.

The first riders taking part in the sell-out ride got underway at around 7.30am, heading off in groups of 20 in a staggered start from Matchams Leisure Park.

Daily Echo:

UK Cycling Events, the organiser of the Wiggle rides, moved the start of the event to Matchams this year, having started from the New Forest Showground site in 2013.

The event has caused controversy in the past with complaints from residents about the conduct of the riders, while last year cyclists were hit by acts of sabotage, with protesters putting tacks on the roads and signs being torn down.

This year, opponents of the event have published posters urging residents to alert the authorities if any of the entrants cause trouble.

The posters list 15 towns and villages across the Forest where critics claim incidents could occur over the weekend.

But as riders were leaving the site this year, Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event. Have a wonderful time, but do it in a responsible way.”

He added he wanted the event to go smoothly but “please play your part”.

Father and son, Dave, 45, and Matt Wilson, 25, from Southampton said they were taking part in the event for the first time.

“It’s local and it’s in the beautiful New Forest”, Matt said.

“It’s right they should take a strict stance with people; the roads aren’t closed and frankly people should be riding sensibly anyway”, Dave added.

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11:01am Sat 12 Apr 14

trulysaintly says...

Sadly many cyclists aren't as level headed as Dave and his son.

I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them.

In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have. Sanctimonius and self-centered - they'll assume everyone drives a car if you're against them.

If they could fit into a phonebox, they'd have an argument in there too.

No amount of charity donations can change what is wrong with these events - COMMERCIAL ones run for PROFIT on public roads.

They wonder why the locals don't like it? Because it takes over the whole of the New Forest for two days.

If the National Park had any 'kahunas' they'd do something about it, but they haven't.

The New Forest is a National Park, not a Play Park.
Sadly many cyclists aren't as level headed as Dave and his son. I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them. In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have. Sanctimonius and self-centered - they'll assume everyone drives a car if you're against them. If they could fit into a phonebox, they'd have an argument in there too. No amount of charity donations can change what is wrong with these events - COMMERCIAL ones run for PROFIT on public roads. They wonder why the locals don't like it? Because it takes over the whole of the New Forest for two days. If the National Park had any 'kahunas' they'd do something about it, but they haven't. The New Forest is a National Park, not a Play Park. trulysaintly
  • Score: 11

11:03am Sat 12 Apr 14

trulysaintly says...

Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds.

BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?
Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds. BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all? trulysaintly
  • Score: 4

11:16am Sat 12 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

trulysaintly wrote:
Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds.

BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?
The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre

Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history

... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals?

It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year
[quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds. BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?[/p][/quote]The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history ... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals? It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year DanWeston
  • Score: 9

11:31am Sat 12 Apr 14

trulysaintly says...

DanWeston wrote:
trulysaintly wrote:
Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds.

BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?
The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre

Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history

... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals?

It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year
Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour.

It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'...

I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it?

Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they?

How many abreast? 3? 4?
[quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds. BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?[/p][/quote]The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history ... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals? It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year[/p][/quote]Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour. It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'... I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it? Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they? How many abreast? 3? 4? trulysaintly
  • Score: 13

11:33am Sat 12 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

trulysaintly wrote:
Sadly many cyclists aren't as level headed as Dave and his son.

I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them.

In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have. Sanctimonius and self-centered - they'll assume everyone drives a car if you're against them.

If they could fit into a phonebox, they'd have an argument in there too.

No amount of charity donations can change what is wrong with these events - COMMERCIAL ones run for PROFIT on public roads.

They wonder why the locals don't like it? Because it takes over the whole of the New Forest for two days.

If the National Park had any 'kahunas' they'd do something about it, but they haven't.

The New Forest is a National Park, not a Play Park.
I won't defend the vocally idiot cyclists who seem hell bent on ruining a lovely pastime/activity/tra
nsport for the others but please don't over react by claiming the WHOLE forest gets taken over because it clearly does not. It won't affect you anyway your sat inside on your computer.

And it's not two days is it. Most riders will be finished by one so leaving a few slower riders you can then enjoy a drive through your forest
There are many many events that are profit driven on public roads by cycles, bikes cars and foot all over the uk every week.

But I won't defend the idiots because they are undefendable , not that I need to defend someone I do not know or have not met.

Many cyclists there over the weekend are there because it's the only time they feel safe or confident to get out for a long ride, I.e others around them helping with safety and routes etc.

It will be interesting how many people on here moan about it when it does not affect them in anyway..
[quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: Sadly many cyclists aren't as level headed as Dave and his son. I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them. In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have. Sanctimonius and self-centered - they'll assume everyone drives a car if you're against them. If they could fit into a phonebox, they'd have an argument in there too. No amount of charity donations can change what is wrong with these events - COMMERCIAL ones run for PROFIT on public roads. They wonder why the locals don't like it? Because it takes over the whole of the New Forest for two days. If the National Park had any 'kahunas' they'd do something about it, but they haven't. The New Forest is a National Park, not a Play Park.[/p][/quote]I won't defend the vocally idiot cyclists who seem hell bent on ruining a lovely pastime/activity/tra nsport for the others but please don't over react by claiming the WHOLE forest gets taken over because it clearly does not. It won't affect you anyway your sat inside on your computer. And it's not two days is it. Most riders will be finished by one so leaving a few slower riders you can then enjoy a drive through your forest There are many many events that are profit driven on public roads by cycles, bikes cars and foot all over the uk every week. But I won't defend the idiots because they are undefendable , not that I need to defend someone I do not know or have not met. Many cyclists there over the weekend are there because it's the only time they feel safe or confident to get out for a long ride, I.e others around them helping with safety and routes etc. It will be interesting how many people on here moan about it when it does not affect them in anyway.. southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

12:02pm Sat 12 Apr 14

springhill says...

I have just driven up to the Forest to see things for myself.....the riders were all spread out mostly in ones twos and threes....the few larger groups seemed well behaved and readily split into single file when hey heard cars approaching. The one piece of idiocy I saw was coming over the blind hill crest near Longslade and being confronted by a vehicle on the wrong side of the road overtaking a small group of riders.....fortunate
ly I was able to pull on to the verge to avoid a collision.....The vehicle...a 4 by 4 !!..the driver a glamorous blonde !! Nuff said.
I have just driven up to the Forest to see things for myself.....the riders were all spread out mostly in ones twos and threes....the few larger groups seemed well behaved and readily split into single file when hey heard cars approaching. The one piece of idiocy I saw was coming over the blind hill crest near Longslade and being confronted by a vehicle on the wrong side of the road overtaking a small group of riders.....fortunate ly I was able to pull on to the verge to avoid a collision.....The vehicle...a 4 by 4 !!..the driver a glamorous blonde !! Nuff said. springhill
  • Score: 8

12:07pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

trulysaintly wrote:
Sadly many cyclists aren't as level headed as Dave and his son.

I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them.

In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have. Sanctimonius and self-centered - they'll assume everyone drives a car if you're against them.

If they could fit into a phonebox, they'd have an argument in there too.

No amount of charity donations can change what is wrong with these events - COMMERCIAL ones run for PROFIT on public roads.

They wonder why the locals don't like it? Because it takes over the whole of the New Forest for two days.

If the National Park had any 'kahunas' they'd do something about it, but they haven't.

The New Forest is a National Park, not a Play Park.
Quote : "I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them. In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have."

Yeh I've noticed this too. So have some of my friends. We wonder if maybe the cycling bit is just a cover for some kind of anarchist movement or is that just too paranoid? Ha Ha! Maybe that Geoff guy isn't too far wide of the point when he calls some of them "cycle Nazis"!

For what it's worth, take a tip my friends and I found out: switch off your laptop and all the bullstuff goes away!
[quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: Sadly many cyclists aren't as level headed as Dave and his son. I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them. In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have. Sanctimonius and self-centered - they'll assume everyone drives a car if you're against them. If they could fit into a phonebox, they'd have an argument in there too. No amount of charity donations can change what is wrong with these events - COMMERCIAL ones run for PROFIT on public roads. They wonder why the locals don't like it? Because it takes over the whole of the New Forest for two days. If the National Park had any 'kahunas' they'd do something about it, but they haven't. The New Forest is a National Park, not a Play Park.[/p][/quote]Quote : "I've watched on Twitter this week people getting savaged verbally by cyclists who seem to scour social media for ANY comment which is critical of them. In fact, all it proves is the arrogance that they claim not to have." Yeh I've noticed this too. So have some of my friends. We wonder if maybe the cycling bit is just a cover for some kind of anarchist movement or is that just too paranoid? Ha Ha! Maybe that Geoff guy isn't too far wide of the point when he calls some of them "cycle Nazis"! For what it's worth, take a tip my friends and I found out: switch off your laptop and all the bullstuff goes away! Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -3

1:12pm Sat 12 Apr 14

vag says...

I'm both a cyclist, and a driver. Last year, the behaviour of the majority of the riders in this event, made me ashamed to be a cyclist. The courteous, sensible riders were in the minority. I have some sympathy with the residents along the course of this event, if it's as ill disciplined, and badly organised as last years effort.
I'm both a cyclist, and a driver. Last year, the behaviour of the majority of the riders in this event, made me ashamed to be a cyclist. The courteous, sensible riders were in the minority. I have some sympathy with the residents along the course of this event, if it's as ill disciplined, and badly organised as last years effort. vag
  • Score: 14

1:38pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Superior Being says...

This argument gets worse every where, clearly there are some foolish cyclists who get very defensive about the roads, but come on........the locals claiming that
1) It takes over the whole forest
2) The animals are more at risk.......show me the figures of deaths of animals and humans in the forest area caused by motor vehicles compared to bicycles
3) that it affects them in any way what so ever.

so for 1 weekend of the year you miraculously all want to go out for a drive.

It is so clearly obvious that the foolish cyclists of the weekend, and the very childish residents of the national park open to anyone and everyone simply need to grow up and remember this is a 1st world problem. heaven forbid they have something serious happen in their lives, how would they cope.
This argument gets worse every where, clearly there are some foolish cyclists who get very defensive about the roads, but come on........the locals claiming that 1) It takes over the whole forest 2) The animals are more at risk.......show me the figures of deaths of animals and humans in the forest area caused by motor vehicles compared to bicycles 3) that it affects them in any way what so ever. so for 1 weekend of the year you miraculously all want to go out for a drive. It is so clearly obvious that the foolish cyclists of the weekend, and the very childish residents of the national park open to anyone and everyone simply need to grow up and remember this is a 1st world problem. heaven forbid they have something serious happen in their lives, how would they cope. Superior Being
  • Score: 4

2:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

trulysaintly wrote:
DanWeston wrote:
trulysaintly wrote:
Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds.

BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?
The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre

Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history

... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals?

It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year
Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour.

It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'...

I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it?

Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they?

How many abreast? 3? 4?
All I saw were cyclists overtaking slower cyclists, also, isn't the New Forest show run for profit?
[quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds. BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?[/p][/quote]The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history ... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals? It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year[/p][/quote]Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour. It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'... I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it? Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they? How many abreast? 3? 4?[/p][/quote]All I saw were cyclists overtaking slower cyclists, also, isn't the New Forest show run for profit? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

2:46pm Sat 12 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules 1batty10
  • Score: 3

2:52pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
[quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

3:47pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Even at the very start of that film clip, they were blatently breaking rules.
Even at the very start of that film clip, they were blatently breaking rules. IronLady2010
  • Score: -6

4:04pm Sat 12 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count. 1batty10
  • Score: -1

4:23pm Sat 12 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
Or maybe not. Is it 2, 3 or 4 or just the 3?
[quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]Or maybe not. Is it 2, 3 or 4 or just the 3? elvisimo
  • Score: 2

5:22pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

That photo.Is that Nick Cage and Chloe Moretz? Auditions for "Kick A$$ 3"?
That photo.Is that Nick Cage and Chloe Moretz? Auditions for "Kick A$$ 3"? Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -5

5:58pm Sat 12 Apr 14

apm1954 says...

yawn, i am going down the pub, good god is this the only thing the small minded people of the forest have to moan about. one minute they moan that drivers are going to fast next they slow down for a few cyclist wow.
yawn, i am going down the pub, good god is this the only thing the small minded people of the forest have to moan about. one minute they moan that drivers are going to fast next they slow down for a few cyclist wow. apm1954
  • Score: 2

6:30pm Sat 12 Apr 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Would it not be possible to shut a few roads to other traffic and let the cyclists have the roads to themselves....just a thought!
Would it not be possible to shut a few roads to other traffic and let the cyclists have the roads to themselves....just a thought! 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 5

7:07pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
[quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 6

7:09pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.[/p][/quote]Retaliating? Do you mean road rage? IronLady2010
  • Score: -6

7:13pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?
No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.[/p][/quote]Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?[/p][/quote]No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

7:21pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?
No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.
I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad.

You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.[/p][/quote]Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?[/p][/quote]No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.[/p][/quote]I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad. You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way? IronLady2010
  • Score: -5

7:48pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?
No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.
I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad.

You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way?
Well, we don't want to be put in danger by stupidity, the police don't do anything unless someone is hurt or even killed and even then the motorist is likely to get away scott free by using the bull "oh, the sun was in my eyes" excuse and I KNOW it's bull because I've driven into low sun myself during driving lessons and even on my test and I was never completely blinded to the point that I had to stop due to not being able to see, sorry if it seems a petty thing to be annoyed at stupid driving(or riding) but a motorist getting too close to a vulnerable road user is as bad, if not worse than someone taking a sledgehammer and swinging it at you as close as possible without hitting you and at some point, one of those swings WILL hit you, resulting in you being injured or killed.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.[/p][/quote]Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?[/p][/quote]No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.[/p][/quote]I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad. You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way?[/p][/quote]Well, we don't want to be put in danger by stupidity, the police don't do anything unless someone is hurt or even killed and even then the motorist is likely to get away scott free by using the bull "oh, the sun was in my eyes" excuse and I KNOW it's bull because I've driven into low sun myself during driving lessons and even on my test and I was never completely blinded to the point that I had to stop due to not being able to see, sorry if it seems a petty thing to be annoyed at stupid driving(or riding) but a motorist getting too close to a vulnerable road user is as bad, if not worse than someone taking a sledgehammer and swinging it at you as close as possible without hitting you and at some point, one of those swings WILL hit you, resulting in you being injured or killed. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

7:57pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Turtlebay says...

Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial.

Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified.

How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event?

The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast.

Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event."

So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please? Turtlebay
  • Score: 5

8:03pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial.

Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified.

How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event?

The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast.

Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event."

So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?[/p][/quote]A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

8:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?
No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.
I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad.

You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way?
Reading this Gingercyclists posts closely, I don't think this guy is typical of the vast majority of bike riders.All his comments are hostile, seem a bit pre-emptive, like he's expecting trouble.And some of the other comments are weird

Verdict? For Echo Forum, read Wacko Junction! I'm out of here.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.[/p][/quote]Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?[/p][/quote]No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.[/p][/quote]I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad. You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way?[/p][/quote]Reading this Gingercyclists posts closely, I don't think this guy is typical of the vast majority of bike riders.All his comments are hostile, seem a bit pre-emptive, like he's expecting trouble.And some of the other comments are weird Verdict? For Echo Forum, read Wacko Junction! I'm out of here. Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -5

8:07pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?
No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.
I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad.

You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way?
Reading this Gingercyclists posts closely, I don't think this guy is typical of the vast majority of bike riders.All his comments are hostile, seem a bit pre-emptive, like he's expecting trouble.And some of the other comments are weird

Verdict? For Echo Forum, read Wacko Junction! I'm out of here.
I'm not hostile, I just take a very firm stance against people needlessly putting lives of others in danger.
[quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.[/p][/quote]Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?[/p][/quote]No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.[/p][/quote]I'll be honest i'm neutral when it comes to this cyclist vs cars episode. But you cyclists are really making yourselves look bad. You openly say you retaliate to drivers, why not just ignore them and put it down to stupidity. Seems you want everything your own way?[/p][/quote]Reading this Gingercyclists posts closely, I don't think this guy is typical of the vast majority of bike riders.All his comments are hostile, seem a bit pre-emptive, like he's expecting trouble.And some of the other comments are weird Verdict? For Echo Forum, read Wacko Junction! I'm out of here.[/p][/quote]I'm not hostile, I just take a very firm stance against people needlessly putting lives of others in danger. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

8:09pm Sat 12 Apr 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial.

Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified.

How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event?

The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast.

Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event."

So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?
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  • Score: -10

8:10pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial.

Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified.

How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event?

The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast.

Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event."

So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?
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Why? Because I'm talking some common sense that never seems to be welcome here?
[quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?[/p][/quote]A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz[/p][/quote]Why? Because I'm talking some common sense that never seems to be welcome here? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

8:11pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Ginger, you have no right to be hostile. Do you see car drivers swerving their vehicles at cyclists to punish them?

Yet, you admit to hurling abuse at them.
Ginger, you have no right to be hostile. Do you see car drivers swerving their vehicles at cyclists to punish them? Yet, you admit to hurling abuse at them. IronLady2010
  • Score: -5

8:11pm Sat 12 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
trulysaintly wrote:
DanWeston wrote:
trulysaintly wrote:
Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds.

BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?
The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre

Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history

... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals?

It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year
Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour.

It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'...

I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it?

Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they?

How many abreast? 3? 4?
All I saw were cyclists overtaking slower cyclists, also, isn't the New Forest show run for profit?
Don't be pedantic, all these incidents are only naughty when cyclists are involved........

It is perfectly acceptable for total road blockages, using verges as toilets, making a profit etc if it is the New Forest Show involved
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds. BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?[/p][/quote]The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history ... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals? It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year[/p][/quote]Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour. It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'... I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it? Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they? How many abreast? 3? 4?[/p][/quote]All I saw were cyclists overtaking slower cyclists, also, isn't the New Forest show run for profit?[/p][/quote]Don't be pedantic, all these incidents are only naughty when cyclists are involved........ It is perfectly acceptable for total road blockages, using verges as toilets, making a profit etc if it is the New Forest Show involved DanWeston
  • Score: -6

8:13pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you have no right to be hostile. Do you see car drivers swerving their vehicles at cyclists to punish them?

Yet, you admit to hurling abuse at them.
Actually, YES I HAVE seen people deliberately swerve at cyclists, I've even had it done to me before and I don't "hurl abuse" at people, or at least I try not t but it's a bit hard not to when someone threates my LIFE with 2 tonnes or more of metal.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you have no right to be hostile. Do you see car drivers swerving their vehicles at cyclists to punish them? Yet, you admit to hurling abuse at them.[/p][/quote]Actually, YES I HAVE seen people deliberately swerve at cyclists, I've even had it done to me before and I don't "hurl abuse" at people, or at least I try not t but it's a bit hard not to when someone threates my LIFE with 2 tonnes or more of metal. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

8:16pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

DanWeston wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
trulysaintly wrote:
DanWeston wrote:
trulysaintly wrote:
Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds.

BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?
The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre

Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history

... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals?

It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year
Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour.

It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'...

I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it?

Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they?

How many abreast? 3? 4?
All I saw were cyclists overtaking slower cyclists, also, isn't the New Forest show run for profit?
Don't be pedantic, all these incidents are only naughty when cyclists are involved........

It is perfectly acceptable for total road blockages, using verges as toilets, making a profit etc if it is the New Forest Show involved
Clearly, it's even ok for people running the New Forest show to control road traffic without authorisation but it probably wouldn't be allowed for ride marshals to do it, even with authorisation.
[quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DanWeston[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trulysaintly[/bold] wrote: Oh, Echo - it's THOUSANDS, not hundreds. BTW, who defends the animals who have to put up with this all?[/p][/quote]The only problem I had was an injury to my dog when one ofthe "animal loving" protestors strewed tacks across the road at Boldre Which as far as I am aware makes the protesters the ones with a dubious history ... and of course one could ask why the cyclists are a greater threat to the animals? It was not cyclists that killed 72 ponies last year[/p][/quote]Dan, there are nutjobs everywhere - and not for one second would I condone such behaviour. It's the dual standards I deplore - like apologists stating 'it's not a race' whilst organisers put posters up on the road past Roundhills Campsite 'PUSH HARD IMPROVE YOUR TIME'... I own ponies on the forest, so I get your point about cars - that doesn't justify the validity of these huge events run for profit through does it? Also, looking at the pics taken by the Echo, it looks like some of them didn't listen to the organiser did they? How many abreast? 3? 4?[/p][/quote]All I saw were cyclists overtaking slower cyclists, also, isn't the New Forest show run for profit?[/p][/quote]Don't be pedantic, all these incidents are only naughty when cyclists are involved........ It is perfectly acceptable for total road blockages, using verges as toilets, making a profit etc if it is the New Forest Show involved[/p][/quote]Clearly, it's even ok for people running the New Forest show to control road traffic without authorisation but it probably wouldn't be allowed for ride marshals to do it, even with authorisation. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

8:16pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you have no right to be hostile. Do you see car drivers swerving their vehicles at cyclists to punish them?

Yet, you admit to hurling abuse at them.
Actually, YES I HAVE seen people deliberately swerve at cyclists, I've even had it done to me before and I don't "hurl abuse" at people, or at least I try not t but it's a bit hard not to when someone threates my LIFE with 2 tonnes or more of metal.
*threatens
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you have no right to be hostile. Do you see car drivers swerving their vehicles at cyclists to punish them? Yet, you admit to hurling abuse at them.[/p][/quote]Actually, YES I HAVE seen people deliberately swerve at cyclists, I've even had it done to me before and I don't "hurl abuse" at people, or at least I try not t but it's a bit hard not to when someone threates my LIFE with 2 tonnes or more of metal.[/p][/quote]*threatens Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 5

8:27pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy. IronLady2010
  • Score: -5

8:34pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
No, I just think idiots, morons and those who are repeatedly caught driving/riding dangerously, should be kept off the roads.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]No, I just think idiots, morons and those who are repeatedly caught driving/riding dangerously, should be kept off the roads. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

9:17pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
No, I just think idiots, morons and those who are repeatedly caught driving/riding dangerously, should be kept off the roads.
A statement made safe in the knowledge that the two wheeled criminals of the road are unidentifiable and commit offences with no fear of prosecution...... Apart from the one that Ginger-Southy heard about five years ago.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]No, I just think idiots, morons and those who are repeatedly caught driving/riding dangerously, should be kept off the roads.[/p][/quote]A statement made safe in the knowledge that the two wheeled criminals of the road are unidentifiable and commit offences with no fear of prosecution...... Apart from the one that Ginger-Southy heard about five years ago. Torchie1
  • Score: -1

9:41pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well
, now.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now. Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -5

9:48pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well

, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
[quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

9:54pm Sat 12 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them. good-gosh
  • Score: 0

10:34pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well


, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement? Torchie1
  • Score: -1

10:42pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

good-gosh wrote:
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.[/p][/quote]I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

10:46pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well



, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?
Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?[/p][/quote]Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

10:48pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well


, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK? Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -3

10:53pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well



, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?
Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads.
[quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?[/p][/quote]Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well




, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?
Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.
Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it!
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?[/p][/quote]Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it! Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -6

11:01pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well





, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?
Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.
Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it!
I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car.
[quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?[/p][/quote]Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it![/p][/quote]I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

11:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well




, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?
Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads.
Childish insults?Listen, if you were my brother I'd have wrapped your bike round your neck and hit you over the head with your laptop by now!And after reading all this garbage of yours, no court in this land would convict me!

Seriously, you are one bad wind up.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?[/p][/quote]Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads.[/p][/quote]Childish insults?Listen, if you were my brother I'd have wrapped your bike round your neck and hit you over the head with your laptop by now!And after reading all this garbage of yours, no court in this land would convict me! Seriously, you are one bad wind up. Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -3

11:10pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well






, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?
Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.
Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it!
I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car.
Man, I really, really hope so!
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?[/p][/quote]Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it![/p][/quote]I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car.[/p][/quote]Man, I really, really hope so! Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -3

11:12pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well





, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?
Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads.
Childish insults?Listen, if you were my brother I'd have wrapped your bike round your neck and hit you over the head with your laptop by now!And after reading all this garbage of yours, no court in this land would convict me!

Seriously, you are one bad wind up.
Yes, childish insults, also, any judge would laugh their head off at you before sending you done for a long time.
[quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?[/p][/quote]Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads.[/p][/quote]Childish insults?Listen, if you were my brother I'd have wrapped your bike round your neck and hit you over the head with your laptop by now!And after reading all this garbage of yours, no court in this land would convict me! Seriously, you are one bad wind up.[/p][/quote]Yes, childish insults, also, any judge would laugh their head off at you before sending you done for a long time. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 3

11:13pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well







, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?
Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.
Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it!
I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car.
Man, I really, really hope so!
Why? Are YOU going to be that idiot?
[quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?[/p][/quote]Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it![/p][/quote]I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car.[/p][/quote]Man, I really, really hope so![/p][/quote]Why? Are YOU going to be that idiot? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 0

11:14pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well






, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?
Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads.
Childish insults?Listen, if you were my brother I'd have wrapped your bike round your neck and hit you over the head with your laptop by now!And after reading all this garbage of yours, no court in this land would convict me!

Seriously, you are one bad wind up.
Yes, childish insults, also, any judge would laugh their head off at you before sending you done for a long time.
*Down not done, was typing fast.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Hey, a$$hole, welcome to the real world! It aint perfect,OK?[/p][/quote]Childish insults now that you know you've been beaten? Soooo mature but I know the world isn't perfect but it can be a **** sight better than it is, especially the behaviour of people on the roads with their motor vehicles which KILLS THOUSANDS every year and that's just on Britains roads.[/p][/quote]Childish insults?Listen, if you were my brother I'd have wrapped your bike round your neck and hit you over the head with your laptop by now!And after reading all this garbage of yours, no court in this land would convict me! Seriously, you are one bad wind up.[/p][/quote]Yes, childish insults, also, any judge would laugh their head off at you before sending you done for a long time.[/p][/quote]*Down not done, was typing fast. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

12:39am Sun 13 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Mandy Warhol wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself.

I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry.
Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians.

Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist.

But well done on staying healthy.
Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all.

Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see.

Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well








, now.
I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?
Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?
Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.
Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it!
I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car.
Man, I really, really hope so!
Why? Are YOU going to be that idiot?
I can't drive.I have a Harley, but not with me in UK.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Ginger, you really are making a fool of yourself. I always feel anyone has the right to a road, wether that be a cyclist, Car, Van, Lorry. Not being funny, but you come across as wanting to own the roads more than pedestrians. Your input in this website clearly indicates you are ignorant to anyone who isn't a cyclist. But well done on staying healthy.[/p][/quote]Do get the feeling somebody might be goading this guy on?He sees to arrive here in an over-stimulated frame of mind, ready for a fight.He keeps using the excuse that bad drivers scare him, and that's why he is abusive.How many other cyclists get on here carrying on like he does?Probably none at all. Ginger guy, if you don't like the road, get off your bike.I tell you now you and your camera and your bad attitude aint getting you nothing but trouble.That's what I heard, and thats what I see. Healthy, Iron Lady2010?You think this man is healthy?If you call a paranoid schizo whos developing an ulcer healthy?........Well , now.[/p][/quote]I don't have a bad attitude and it's not the road I don't like, it's morons who think it's perfectly fine to pass me with barely inches to spare in a vehicle that could weigh 100's of tonnes, pull out on me, cut me up, give abuse, use their vehicle as a weapon to intimidate me, use the phone while driving, jump red lights, go the wrong way down one-way roads, overtake where it's not safe or even legal and those who generally don't give a toss that they could easily kill someone with their driving that I don't like, so no, I won't get off my bike, I mean why would I when it's far quicker than driving or even getting the bus during rush hour?[/p][/quote]Either your overwhelming sense of paranoia or your persecution complex or possibly both, seem to be clouding your judgement?[/p][/quote]Paranoia? Is it really paranoia when you've almost been hit before and KNOW it's likely to happen again in the future? As for the "persecution complex" which I don't have, most of my videos show people doing something wrong.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we all ought to enterain the possibility that Ginger Person is not paranoid, that people really are out to get him! The videos prove it![/p][/quote]I didn't say people are out to get me, in fact I doubt anyone is but I do know that the next time I get on my bike, there is a good chance I will come across at LEAST one idiot in a car.[/p][/quote]Man, I really, really hope so![/p][/quote]Why? Are YOU going to be that idiot?[/p][/quote]I can't drive.I have a Harley, but not with me in UK. Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -2

8:17am Sun 13 Apr 14

country bird says...

I've only read the first few comments and will read the rest later on.

I live in the New Forest, and remember last year there were lots of problems, and I have previously made comments about wiggle and other cycling events.

So, did the event go well, or were there problems?

I was home yesterday, and out in garden, but I have not seen or heard that there were any problems anywhere.
I've only read the first few comments and will read the rest later on. I live in the New Forest, and remember last year there were lots of problems, and I have previously made comments about wiggle and other cycling events. So, did the event go well, or were there problems? I was home yesterday, and out in garden, but I have not seen or heard that there were any problems anywhere. country bird
  • Score: 1

8:40am Sun 13 Apr 14

Maddy1204 says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
The picture taken at Burley was actually as cyclists were queuing up at and leaving a junction. It's a busy junction as anyone who lives in the area knows......as soon as the cyclists left the junction and headed towards the Queens head they went back into single file.......so please can we have some common sense and avoid emotion......
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?[/p][/quote]The picture taken at Burley was actually as cyclists were queuing up at and leaving a junction. It's a busy junction as anyone who lives in the area knows......as soon as the cyclists left the junction and headed towards the Queens head they went back into single file.......so please can we have some common sense and avoid emotion...... Maddy1204
  • Score: -4

9:22am Sun 13 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

We are swamped with immigrants, a third of a million MORE than the State said had been the case. Yet the indigenous, largely middle class people of England are at each others' throats-see above. What hope have we? For goodness' sake!
We are swamped with immigrants, a third of a million MORE than the State said had been the case. Yet the indigenous, largely middle class people of England are at each others' throats-see above. What hope have we? For goodness' sake! Dai Rear
  • Score: 1

9:38am Sun 13 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

Maddy1204 wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
The picture taken at Burley was actually as cyclists were queuing up at and leaving a junction. It's a busy junction as anyone who lives in the area knows......as soon as the cyclists left the junction and headed towards the Queens head they went back into single file.......so please can we have some common sense and avoid emotion......
Perhaps for further clarity you should have pointed out that the picture shows the second of two tight bends on a very narrow road and anyone coming around the corner from the Brockenhurst direction would have been faced with a wall of cyclists. At this particular point it should be imperative that they are in single file as they can see the blind bend just ahead of them and be anticipating the traffic that may be about to appear in front of them. The 'marshall' in the background seems to be totally ignorant of the hazard as well or he would be warning them that it's an act of folly to consider overtaking until they can see that the road is clear.
[quote][p][bold]Maddy1204[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?[/p][/quote]The picture taken at Burley was actually as cyclists were queuing up at and leaving a junction. It's a busy junction as anyone who lives in the area knows......as soon as the cyclists left the junction and headed towards the Queens head they went back into single file.......so please can we have some common sense and avoid emotion......[/p][/quote]Perhaps for further clarity you should have pointed out that the picture shows the second of two tight bends on a very narrow road and anyone coming around the corner from the Brockenhurst direction would have been faced with a wall of cyclists. At this particular point it should be imperative that they are in single file as they can see the blind bend just ahead of them and be anticipating the traffic that may be about to appear in front of them. The 'marshall' in the background seems to be totally ignorant of the hazard as well or he would be warning them that it's an act of folly to consider overtaking until they can see that the road is clear. Torchie1
  • Score: 3

9:52am Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial.

Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified.

How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event?

The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast.

Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event."

So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
You took their entrant numbers and reported them, so the appropriate action could be carried out, right?
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?[/p][/quote]You took their entrant numbers and reported them, so the appropriate action could be carried out, right? Drhysted
  • Score: -1

9:55am Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Maddy1204 wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
The picture taken at Burley was actually as cyclists were queuing up at and leaving a junction. It's a busy junction as anyone who lives in the area knows......as soon as the cyclists left the junction and headed towards the Queens head they went back into single file.......so please can we have some common sense and avoid emotion......
Perhaps for further clarity you should have pointed out that the picture shows the second of two tight bends on a very narrow road and anyone coming around the corner from the Brockenhurst direction would have been faced with a wall of cyclists. At this particular point it should be imperative that they are in single file as they can see the blind bend just ahead of them and be anticipating the traffic that may be about to appear in front of them. The 'marshall' in the background seems to be totally ignorant of the hazard as well or he would be warning them that it's an act of folly to consider overtaking until they can see that the road is clear.
Or perhaps we should point out the truth.

The Marshall is stood in the middle of the road because he has just checked for traffic and instructed the group that it is safe to cross.

I've heard a lot of made up truths about these events. It would be nice to actually see facts for a change.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maddy1204[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?[/p][/quote]The picture taken at Burley was actually as cyclists were queuing up at and leaving a junction. It's a busy junction as anyone who lives in the area knows......as soon as the cyclists left the junction and headed towards the Queens head they went back into single file.......so please can we have some common sense and avoid emotion......[/p][/quote]Perhaps for further clarity you should have pointed out that the picture shows the second of two tight bends on a very narrow road and anyone coming around the corner from the Brockenhurst direction would have been faced with a wall of cyclists. At this particular point it should be imperative that they are in single file as they can see the blind bend just ahead of them and be anticipating the traffic that may be about to appear in front of them. The 'marshall' in the background seems to be totally ignorant of the hazard as well or he would be warning them that it's an act of folly to consider overtaking until they can see that the road is clear.[/p][/quote]Or perhaps we should point out the truth. The Marshall is stood in the middle of the road because he has just checked for traffic and instructed the group that it is safe to cross. I've heard a lot of made up truths about these events. It would be nice to actually see facts for a change. Drhysted
  • Score: 0

10:02am Sun 13 Apr 14

forest hump says...

When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots
When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots forest hump
  • Score: 3

10:06am Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

To the person asking if there were any problems, the answer from my saddle is no.

I saw nothing to report from both cyclists and drivers (ignoring the Ferrari driver in Ibsley who was held up by the quad bike).

I was overtaken many times, and every time the riders went around me which would have given the impression to a person looking for trouble that we were 2 abreast (anyone with sense would have noticed the differences in speed). Also I was never overtaken by cyclists when a car was waiting to overtake.

To all the antis, are you really so selfish that you are not prepared to share the roads of the Forest for 6 days a year. I get delayed by all the other activities (New Forest Show being the worst) more often then that. Then I suppose that just highlights a difference in character.

To Ann if the roads are not suitable for cycles, they are not suitable for cars!
To the person asking if there were any problems, the answer from my saddle is no. I saw nothing to report from both cyclists and drivers (ignoring the Ferrari driver in Ibsley who was held up by the quad bike). I was overtaken many times, and every time the riders went around me which would have given the impression to a person looking for trouble that we were 2 abreast (anyone with sense would have noticed the differences in speed). Also I was never overtaken by cyclists when a car was waiting to overtake. To all the antis, are you really so selfish that you are not prepared to share the roads of the Forest for 6 days a year. I get delayed by all the other activities (New Forest Show being the worst) more often then that. Then I suppose that just highlights a difference in character. To Ann if the roads are not suitable for cycles, they are not suitable for cars! Drhysted
  • Score: 0

10:09am Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

forest hump wrote:
When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots
I admit I stopped using the short stretch available to me after going through a tyre a week from debris damage.

After £120 on tyres you might reconsider.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots[/p][/quote]I admit I stopped using the short stretch available to me after going through a tyre a week from debris damage. After £120 on tyres you might reconsider. Drhysted
  • Score: -1

10:17am Sun 13 Apr 14

DanWeston says...

forest hump wrote:
When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots
Ignorance is bliss........

The reason is called the Department f Transport!

The DfT Clearly states that shared use cycle paths are only suitable for low speeds.

They state that cyclists who wish to travel at speed should be on the ROAD

Unlike so many motorists who just ignore speed limits, these cyclists have followed the rules

Ranting and calling people names will not alter the fact that your post is ill informed
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots[/p][/quote]Ignorance is bliss........ The reason is called the Department f Transport! The DfT Clearly states that shared use cycle paths are only suitable for low speeds. They state that cyclists who wish to travel at speed should be on the ROAD Unlike so many motorists who just ignore speed limits, these cyclists have followed the rules Ranting and calling people names will not alter the fact that your post is ill informed DanWeston
  • Score: 2

11:06am Sun 13 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so.

This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public.
Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so. This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public. S Pance
  • Score: -2

11:12am Sun 13 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Coming out of my latest role as a Canadian visiting the UK, I'd just like to offer this comment :

It is quite common for some people, when diagnosed with a terminal illness, to take up rigorous exercise routines, or to consume quantities of food that are reputed to have unique, health-giving properties in one last desperate effort to beat the sickness. It is also common for others to take the opposite approach, and eat, drink and be merry while they still have time left. So, with much uncertainty regarding the future of our planet (melting ice caps, rising sea levels, extreme weather and climate change, drug-resistant diseases, over-population, pollution, dwindling resources, not to mention social unrest, war, and terrorism), the public are behaving in a similar fashion to those with terminal conditions.
Look outside : lots of people jogging round the streets, cycling, overtly eating and drinking healthily, losing weight, and constantly offering unsolicited advice on what is good for you. At the same time, there are, on the same streets, other people, drinking and smoking and eating unhealthily, behaving anti-socially, piling into cars for numerous short journeys, and generally waving two fingers at the new “Puritanism”.
In between are the silent majority who just want to live their lives quietly, minding their own business, and dealing with whatever life throws at them in the best way they know how. What they don’t want is a load of vociferous extremists pi$$ing them off with persistent redundant protests and counter-arguments.
Have the cycling event. What permanent damage can it possibly do? Let people eat, drink and do what they want so long as they don’t break the law, or openly annoy others over it. The world is the way it is because the majority want it that way.
Coming out of my latest role as a Canadian visiting the UK, I'd just like to offer this comment : It is quite common for some people, when diagnosed with a terminal illness, to take up rigorous exercise routines, or to consume quantities of food that are reputed to have unique, health-giving properties in one last desperate effort to beat the sickness. It is also common for others to take the opposite approach, and eat, drink and be merry while they still have time left. So, with much uncertainty regarding the future of our planet (melting ice caps, rising sea levels, extreme weather and climate change, drug-resistant diseases, over-population, pollution, dwindling resources, not to mention social unrest, war, and terrorism), the public are behaving in a similar fashion to those with terminal conditions. Look outside : lots of people jogging round the streets, cycling, overtly eating and drinking healthily, losing weight, and constantly offering unsolicited advice on what is good for you. At the same time, there are, on the same streets, other people, drinking and smoking and eating unhealthily, behaving anti-socially, piling into cars for numerous short journeys, and generally waving two fingers at the new “Puritanism”. In between are the silent majority who just want to live their lives quietly, minding their own business, and dealing with whatever life throws at them in the best way they know how. What they don’t want is a load of vociferous extremists pi$$ing them off with persistent redundant protests and counter-arguments. Have the cycling event. What permanent damage can it possibly do? Let people eat, drink and do what they want so long as they don’t break the law, or openly annoy others over it. The world is the way it is because the majority want it that way. Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -3

12:12pm Sun 13 Apr 14

springhill says...

S Pance wrote:
Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so.

This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public.
It would be interesting to learn just how this person has been personally inconvenienced or endangered by the running of this event. Also the information which he has to prove that the organiser has not enforced a ban and for what incident a complaint was made.
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so. This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public.[/p][/quote]It would be interesting to learn just how this person has been personally inconvenienced or endangered by the running of this event. Also the information which he has to prove that the organiser has not enforced a ban and for what incident a complaint was made. springhill
  • Score: 1

12:17pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

forest hump wrote:
When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots
Do NOT have to use them, also they can't be found along every road and often don't lead to where you want to go.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: When cyclists start using the specifically constructed paths I will listen. Until then, they have no argument. Some do use and well done them. Now we will see the onslaught of "they are poorly designed" and "why were we not consulted" absolute nonsense.....self righteous bigots[/p][/quote]Do NOT have to use them, also they can't be found along every road and often don't lead to where you want to go. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

12:21pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

S Pance wrote:
Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so.

This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public.
You could tell that just from a few pictures and a video of cyclist riding single file and overtaking each other?
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so. This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public.[/p][/quote]You could tell that just from a few pictures and a video of cyclist riding single file and overtaking each other? Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

12:25pm Sun 13 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.
Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.[/p][/quote]I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.[/p][/quote]Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights 1batty10
  • Score: 0

12:29pm Sun 13 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.
Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights
And yes the lights were on RED
[quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.[/p][/quote]I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.[/p][/quote]Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights[/p][/quote]And yes the lights were on RED 1batty10
  • Score: 0

12:32pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.
Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights
I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it.
[quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.[/p][/quote]I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.[/p][/quote]Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights[/p][/quote]I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 1

12:45pm Sun 13 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE.

But never saw the outcome.

I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it
Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE. But never saw the outcome. I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

1:01pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

S Pance wrote:
Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so.

This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public.
You've taken the participants numbers to the Marshalls so they can be dealt with then?
[quote][p][bold]S Pance[/bold] wrote: Cyclists are CLEARLY breaking the rules and the event organiser is NOT enforcing a ban, despite promises that they would do so. This event should NOT be allowed to continue in future years as the organisers are obviously sticking two fingers up to the public.[/p][/quote]You've taken the participants numbers to the Marshalls so they can be dealt with then? Drhysted
  • Score: -1

1:02pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

southamptonadi wrote:
Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE.

But never saw the outcome.

I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it
The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE. But never saw the outcome. I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it[/p][/quote]The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws. Drhysted
  • Score: -1

3:10pm Sun 13 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.
Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights
I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it.
well ginger cyclist I think we are actually agreeing on something WOW no offence meant
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.[/p][/quote]I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.[/p][/quote]Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights[/p][/quote]I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it.[/p][/quote]well ginger cyclist I think we are actually agreeing on something WOW no offence meant 1batty10
  • Score: -1

3:12pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.
Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights
I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it.
well ginger cyclist I think we are actually agreeing on something WOW no offence meant
Yeah, I always check both ways going through any junction just in case someone isn't going to stop at red lights or give-way lines.
[quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.[/p][/quote]I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.[/p][/quote]Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights[/p][/quote]I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it.[/p][/quote]well ginger cyclist I think we are actually agreeing on something WOW no offence meant[/p][/quote]Yeah, I always check both ways going through any junction just in case someone isn't going to stop at red lights or give-way lines. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 2

3:30pm Sun 13 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Drhysted wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE.

But never saw the outcome.

I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it
The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.
Thank you, I wonder what they will be moaning about tomorrow. More lies I expect
[quote][p][bold]Drhysted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE. But never saw the outcome. I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it[/p][/quote]The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.[/p][/quote]Thank you, I wonder what they will be moaning about tomorrow. More lies I expect southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Sun 13 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Drhysted wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE.

But never saw the outcome.

I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it
The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.
Cheers
Strange considering the DE ran two stories at the start of the investigation but never reported the outcome or did I somehow miss it
[quote][p][bold]Drhysted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE. But never saw the outcome. I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it[/p][/quote]The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.[/p][/quote]Cheers Strange considering the DE ran two stories at the start of the investigation but never reported the outcome or did I somehow miss it southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

3:40pm Sun 13 Apr 14

1batty10 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.
I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.
Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights
I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it.
Time to log off two words come to mind GARDEN and WINE
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: I feel another lecture coming on, so here goes. Cyclists DO have a valid complaint about the behaviour of motorists because they are constantly vulnerable to being hit, injured and killed. So I completely understand the gripes. The motorist is always at fault because cars should never go near a cycle. And it's no excuse to say it wasn’t my fault because the motorist is expected to anticipate the worst from any hidden area. Pass a row of parked cars and expect a cyclist or a pedestrian to emerge. Watch the hidden areas, go slow or wide so nothing is a surprise. Cross a busy junction and EXPECT a cyclist to jump his turn – we all know they do it, so expect it and take care – not when you feel like it but always, automatically, and don’t give a turd about hold other cars up – you are controlling the situation not them.[/p][/quote]I've also come to expect cars, motorbikes and even buses(both in and out of service) to jump lights in Southampton.[/p][/quote]Its not only car and buses in town that jump lights. In Boldre last weekend following a cyclist who ignored the traffic lights on the bridge and sailed on through Would a car driver coming the other way still be blamed if he'd injured him I,m not a driver but cycle everywhere wouldn't dream of jumping lights[/p][/quote]I know some cyclists also do it, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just pointing out the fact that a lot of people don't seem to like that it's not just a small number of cyclists that do it.[/p][/quote]Time to log off two words come to mind GARDEN and WINE 1batty10
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4:52pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

southamptonadi wrote:
Drhysted wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE.

But never saw the outcome.

I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it
The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.
Thank you, I wonder what they will be moaning about tomorrow. More lies I expect
What you mean like the bloke on radio Solent the other morning ranting about them closing the road in burley for the cyclists, when the truth was it was for a parade.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Drhysted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE. But never saw the outcome. I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it[/p][/quote]The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.[/p][/quote]Thank you, I wonder what they will be moaning about tomorrow. More lies I expect[/p][/quote]What you mean like the bloke on radio Solent the other morning ranting about them closing the road in burley for the cyclists, when the truth was it was for a parade. Drhysted
  • Score: 3

4:54pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Drhysted says...

southamptonadi wrote:
Drhysted wrote:
southamptonadi wrote:
Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE.

But never saw the outcome.

I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it
The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.
Cheers
Strange considering the DE ran two stories at the start of the investigation but never reported the outcome or did I somehow miss it
That would require the DE doing some journalism. So far all I've seen from them is regurgitating gossip, with little to no research done.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Drhysted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know what the outcome was of the police investigation into these so called races. I sent in evidence that proved and belittled Hampshire constabularies statement in the DE. But never saw the outcome. I suppose it was for wiggle as there would of been a lovely article in the paper about it[/p][/quote]The CPS concluded that the organisers did not break any laws.[/p][/quote]Cheers Strange considering the DE ran two stories at the start of the investigation but never reported the outcome or did I somehow miss it[/p][/quote]That would require the DE doing some journalism. So far all I've seen from them is regurgitating gossip, with little to no research done. Drhysted
  • Score: 2

7:55pm Sun 13 Apr 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial.

Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified.

How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event?

The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast.

Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event."

So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?
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Why? Because I'm talking some common sense that never seems to be welcome here?
No it's because you're boring!! Change the record for Gods sake
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  • Score: -5

8:04pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Turtlebay wrote:
Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial.

Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified.

How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event?

The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast.

Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride.

He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road.

“Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event."

So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?
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Why? Because I'm talking some common sense that never seems to be welcome here?
No it's because you're boring!! Change the record for Gods sake
Don't read it if you find what I type boring, not like someone's stood there with a gun to your air filled head forcing you to read it.
[quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?[/p][/quote]A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzz[/p][/quote]Why? Because I'm talking some common sense that never seems to be welcome here?[/p][/quote]No it's because you're boring!! Change the record for Gods sake[/p][/quote]Don't read it if you find what I type boring, not like someone's stood there with a gun to your air filled head forcing you to read it. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: 5

8:50pm Sun 13 Apr 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Turtlebay wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?
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Why? Because I'm talking some common sense that never seems to be welcome here?
No it's because you're boring!! Change the record for Gods sake
Don't read it if you find what I type boring, not like someone's stood there with a gun to your air filled head forcing you to read it.
Yeah, whatever!
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  • Score: -10

11:22pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Turtlebay wrote: Mr Barden the organiser said that the event is neither a race nor a time trial. Yet in yesterday's Echo he was quoted as saying that those entrants who broke the road rules would be disqualified. How do you disqualify someone from taking part in a non competitive event? The picture at the top of this article shows some cyclists in Burley blatantly ignoring the organiser's warning about not riding 2, 3 or 4 abreast. Quote: Martin Barden, director of UK Cycling Events, was warning riders of the rules and regulations of the ride. He told the groups before they set out: “We don’t want to see anyone cycling two, three or four abreast; do not block out the road. “Anyone seen to be doing that will get banned from today’s event." So Mr Barden can we expect you to ban that group please?
A group of cyclists that could quite easily have been overtaking each other?
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Why? Because I'm talking some common sense that never seems to be welcome here?
No it's because you're boring!! Change the record for Gods sake
Don't read it if you find what I type boring, not like someone's stood there with a gun to your air filled head forcing you to read it.
Yeah, whatever!
I take it you have never had the opportunity to post comments on a "grown-ups" site? Which this site is NOT, so you are in he right place. Try to learn compassion - an adult concept, primarily - and insert it where you, personally, would normally demonstrate intolerance.

You call yourself 100%HANTSBOY. Your attitude and general conduct falls far short of the "100%" you claim, unless you'd care to revise your nickname to the more appropriate "100%HANTSYOB". Good manners cost nothing.
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  • Score: 5

7:20am Mon 14 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

I was a driver and cyclist living in the Forest and since coming over here it is clear to see the differance in attitudes.
Firstly, if I hit a cyclist (or pedestrian) here it is my fault... no debate.
Secondly, the Tour de Fjord that goes past where I live is well controlled and leaflets are given out weeks before within the local paper telling the route and times of road closures.
This then becomes a trouble free happy event.
I was a driver and cyclist living in the Forest and since coming over here it is clear to see the differance in attitudes. Firstly, if I hit a cyclist (or pedestrian) here it is my fault... no debate. Secondly, the Tour de Fjord that goes past where I live is well controlled and leaflets are given out weeks before within the local paper telling the route and times of road closures. This then becomes a trouble free happy event. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 2

9:17am Mon 14 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
1batty10 wrote:
Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules
So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.
Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.
You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives?
Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.
Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?
No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.
You are a foolish apologist who will defend cyclists at all costs, whilst subscribing to mob mentality. Roads are dangerous anyway, without being bombarded by cyclists and motorists with zero tolerance and no social skills.
I am a cyclist and a motorist who fails to see why either should monopolise any road network that is already under pressure.
Who sanctioned this confrontational idiocy?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1batty10[/bold] wrote: Obviously the cyclists can't obey rules and can't count saw them this morning at about 10-45 heading away from Bealieu riding 2, 3 and 4 abreast blocking the road with cars stacked up behind, so much for single file so much for rules[/p][/quote]So you saw a small handful riding like this, possibly overtaking each other and you decide that everyone else will be badly behaved? Shame on you for being a presumptuous arse.[/p][/quote]Not a small handful. a lot of groups of twenty or more all riding anything up to 3 abreast, so not a presumptuous arse just someone who can count.[/p][/quote]You know, it is legal to ride more than 2 abreast as long as none of the riders are riding in the oncoming lane and how do you know if they were overtaking each other or not? Is overtaking suddenly illegal for cyclists to do now? Maybe a motorist behind them had been aggressive and they were retaliating to someone endangering their lives? Rather than protesting against a friendly, eco friendly sport/hobby, why don't the NIMBY'S concentrate on making sure that big oil doesn't buy land in the forest to drill for gas which would lead to the forest dying, the New Forest does sit on the Wessex Shale gas basin after all.[/p][/quote]Retaliating? Do you mean road rage?[/p][/quote]No, just trying to stop any drivers from being bigger pillocks than some of them already are, if they were retaliating(probably not the best word but was the only one I could think of) then it would have been the motorist with road rage, not the cyclist.[/p][/quote]You are a foolish apologist who will defend cyclists at all costs, whilst subscribing to mob mentality. Roads are dangerous anyway, without being bombarded by cyclists and motorists with zero tolerance and no social skills. I am a cyclist and a motorist who fails to see why either should monopolise any road network that is already under pressure. Who sanctioned this confrontational idiocy? lowe esteem
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9:40am Mon 14 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
I was a driver and cyclist living in the Forest and since coming over here it is clear to see the differance in attitudes.
Firstly, if I hit a cyclist (or pedestrian) here it is my fault... no debate.
Secondly, the Tour de Fjord that goes past where I live is well controlled and leaflets are given out weeks before within the local paper telling the route and times of road closures.
This then becomes a trouble free happy event.
I'm sure I've seen this comment before.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: I was a driver and cyclist living in the Forest and since coming over here it is clear to see the differance in attitudes. Firstly, if I hit a cyclist (or pedestrian) here it is my fault... no debate. Secondly, the Tour de Fjord that goes past where I live is well controlled and leaflets are given out weeks before within the local paper telling the route and times of road closures. This then becomes a trouble free happy event.[/p][/quote]I'm sure I've seen this comment before. Mandy Warhol
  • Score: -5

9:42am Mon 14 Apr 14

Mandy Warhol says...

Mandy Warhol wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
I was a driver and cyclist living in the Forest and since coming over here it is clear to see the differance in attitudes.
Firstly, if I hit a cyclist (or pedestrian) here it is my fault... no debate.
Secondly, the Tour de Fjord that goes past where I live is well controlled and leaflets are given out weeks before within the local paper telling the route and times of road closures.
This then becomes a trouble free happy event.
I'm sure I've seen this comment before.
I'm sure I've seen this comment before.
[quote][p][bold]Mandy Warhol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: I was a driver and cyclist living in the Forest and since coming over here it is clear to see the differance in attitudes. Firstly, if I hit a cyclist (or pedestrian) here it is my fault... no debate. Secondly, the Tour de Fjord that goes past where I live is well controlled and leaflets are given out weeks before within the local paper telling the route and times of road closures. This then becomes a trouble free happy event.[/p][/quote]I'm sure I've seen this comment before.[/p][/quote]I'm sure I've seen this comment before. Mandy Warhol
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