Owner's fury after Keizer is put dog by Southampton City Council

Daily Echo: Staffordshire bull terrier Keizer was put down by Southampton City Council officials Staffordshire bull terrier Keizer was put down by Southampton City Council officials

A DOG that was on death row has been put down despite desperate last ditch attempts by her owner to save her.

Now furious Michaela Ryves has threatened legal action against Southampton City Council after Staffordshire bull terrier Keizer was destroyed.

She claims she had tried to collect the dog, which was picked up as a stray by the dog warden, within the seven-day time limit, but was told that she could not because of an upcoming court case to decide the dog’s fate.

However council officials insist that she failed to collect her pet in time.

The three-year-old canine’s fate was set to be decided by Southampton magistrates, who heard how Keizer had attacked two other dogs after escaping from her home last year.

As a result the council had applied for a control order under the Dangerous Dogs Act.

Ms Ryves, of Bassett Green Drive, Southampton, had consented to the conditions.

Daily Echo:

Michaele Ryves (second left) and her family are furious after pet Keizer was destroyed

But the council subsequently withdrew the application after it claimed that Ms Ryves failed to collect the dog from the council kennels within the standard seven days given to owners, which expired last weekend.

Due to the animal’s behaviour, the council decided that it could not be rehomed and had to be put to sleep.

A tearful Ms Ryves, 40, who claims that her dog had not attacked any dog in six months, said she felt decisions had been made behind her back.

She added: “I’m fuming and I’m going to take every step of legal action I can take to make them know what they have done is wrong.”

A council spokeswoman said that the dog’s behaviour presented a danger to other animals and potentially the public and insisted that Ms Ryves made no attempt to collect the dog.

She said: “The council has a responsibility by law to ensure that animals are kept under control and do not present a risk to the public.

“As such we had to make the difficult decision to put the dog to sleep this week.”

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1:11pm Sat 12 Apr 14

massimoosti says...

Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ? massimoosti
  • Score: 54

1:11pm Sat 12 Apr 14

espanuel says...

I look I see and read and make no comment.
I look I see and read and make no comment. espanuel
  • Score: 5

1:21pm Sat 12 Apr 14

hayz90 says...

massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits hayz90
  • Score: -61

1:23pm Sat 12 Apr 14

St.Winch70 says...

Another poor dog loses it's life because of an ill-educated moron...
Another poor dog loses it's life because of an ill-educated moron... St.Winch70
  • Score: 78

1:27pm Sat 12 Apr 14

kyrrie says...

This was the best outcome. It was a dangerous dog. However I do feel sorry for the dog as it's the family's fault this has happened through lack of training and allowing the dog to escape by not securing the garden as previously reported. If the family really cared they would never have allowed this to happen they would have done what was asked of them, they didn't so how can the possibly sue. It is them who should be being sued for the costs of the dog warden, keeping and feeding the dog whilst in care, the vets bill for putting the dog down etc.
This was the best outcome. It was a dangerous dog. However I do feel sorry for the dog as it's the family's fault this has happened through lack of training and allowing the dog to escape by not securing the garden as previously reported. If the family really cared they would never have allowed this to happen they would have done what was asked of them, they didn't so how can the possibly sue. It is them who should be being sued for the costs of the dog warden, keeping and feeding the dog whilst in care, the vets bill for putting the dog down etc. kyrrie
  • Score: 83

1:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

hayz90 says...

kyrrie wrote:
This was the best outcome. It was a dangerous dog. However I do feel sorry for the dog as it's the family's fault this has happened through lack of training and allowing the dog to escape by not securing the garden as previously reported. If the family really cared they would never have allowed this to happen they would have done what was asked of them, they didn't so how can the possibly sue. It is them who should be being sued for the costs of the dog warden, keeping and feeding the dog whilst in care, the vets bill for putting the dog down etc.
i do agree with you it is a shame about the dog and it should have been raised better then it wouldnt be seen as a danger and havin pets you need your garden secure aspecialy as she has a little girl what happened if that was her daughter wondered off not the dog
[quote][p][bold]kyrrie[/bold] wrote: This was the best outcome. It was a dangerous dog. However I do feel sorry for the dog as it's the family's fault this has happened through lack of training and allowing the dog to escape by not securing the garden as previously reported. If the family really cared they would never have allowed this to happen they would have done what was asked of them, they didn't so how can the possibly sue. It is them who should be being sued for the costs of the dog warden, keeping and feeding the dog whilst in care, the vets bill for putting the dog down etc.[/p][/quote]i do agree with you it is a shame about the dog and it should have been raised better then it wouldnt be seen as a danger and havin pets you need your garden secure aspecialy as she has a little girl what happened if that was her daughter wondered off not the dog hayz90
  • Score: 30

1:44pm Sat 12 Apr 14

mickey01 says...

Doctor.Death wrote:
Did your husband get his passport?
what which husband ?? seems to be a mixture looking at the photo
[quote][p][bold]Doctor.Death[/bold] wrote: Did your husband get his passport?[/p][/quote]what which husband ?? seems to be a mixture looking at the photo mickey01
  • Score: 26

1:57pm Sat 12 Apr 14

massimoosti says...

hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
Behave........ a picture paints a thousand words and you couldn't have made this picture up.

Chav family who buy a chav dog they have no ability to correctly train and look after.

I value human life more than any animals and this was going down the road of being another national headline if and when it tore apart an innocent child.
[quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]Behave........ a picture paints a thousand words and you couldn't have made this picture up. Chav family who buy a chav dog they have no ability to correctly train and look after. I value human life more than any animals and this was going down the road of being another national headline if and when it tore apart an innocent child. massimoosti
  • Score: 52

1:58pm Sat 12 Apr 14

massimoosti says...

hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
Correct I assume..............
... am I not correct then ?
[quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]Correct I assume.............. ... am I not correct then ? massimoosti
  • Score: 6

3:09pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

This woman is a disgrace. She knows that dog is capable of attacking, yet she allows her young off spring and another one on the way to interact with it.

Seriously wonder if she needs a trip to the vets for the same treatment the poor dog had.
This woman is a disgrace. She knows that dog is capable of attacking, yet she allows her young off spring and another one on the way to interact with it. Seriously wonder if she needs a trip to the vets for the same treatment the poor dog had. IronLady2010
  • Score: 37

3:11pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Frank28 says...

On day, the coin will drop, Mrs Ryves.
On day, the coin will drop, Mrs Ryves. Frank28
  • Score: 17

3:59pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

Another staffie put to sleep so that no other dog or person will be bitten or savaged. Buy a dog that has the potential to injure people on his off day, sadly , this is the outcome.
Another staffie put to sleep so that no other dog or person will be bitten or savaged. Buy a dog that has the potential to injure people on his off day, sadly , this is the outcome. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 13

4:18pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

Good riddance
Good riddance bigfella777
  • Score: 12

4:25pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Millie0505 says...

I commented on yesterday's story about the staffie attacking the little pom while out of control, I made my point of reckless, selfish ownership of this breed with no respect or knowledge of it, I agree this dog should have been destroyed, I am sorry but if my boy had done the same I would hand him over, no matter how much he is loved and cherished by the whole family, this is why you don't ever let your dog get into this situation in the first place, you secure your property you use a long line and a muzzle as necessary and you don't end up in print having your personal life torn into, as I see here. I have to be honest I think that there are some slightly below the bar comments here, especially the comment made about having the owner euthanised, a step too far maybe? I understand that this little staff was a loving family pet but again as I said in my comments yesterday, staffies are very in dependant and need good socialisation so they understand they can't just always charge in and get the upper hand. I will also say that while I don't put a muzzle on my boy, as he is well socialised, he always wears a long line, I do allow him to have a short period of rough and tumble when out for walks, with smaller breeds especially I let him have a bounce and a sniff and a run then I simply recall him to heel and we leave (with other owners consent of course) there are such simple measures that can be taken to ensure a well behaved well socialised well balanced staffie, and I also agree with the liability insurance, I have it, and I feel that it should be compulsory, there will come a time when the same legislation that is in place for Pit Bulls will be put in place for all the Bull breeds, this is not an issue for me as I would do all that was required to ensure my boy is kept legally and safely, but maybe then those of you that want this breed culled will go some way to getting what you want as there will be a huge amount of owners that are unable or unwilling to pay up or put the effort in, maybe that will be the time we can put ownership of this very demanding but entertaining and loving breed back into some order and prospective, I say again today as I did yesterday feel free to tell me I am a chav and that me and my boy are a menace to society but I have to be honest, I don't own a Burberry hat or a track suit and I am co-owner of a fledgling business, I own this breed purely out of love for it xx
I commented on yesterday's story about the staffie attacking the little pom while out of control, I made my point of reckless, selfish ownership of this breed with no respect or knowledge of it, I agree this dog should have been destroyed, I am sorry but if my boy had done the same I would hand him over, no matter how much he is loved and cherished by the whole family, this is why you don't ever let your dog get into this situation in the first place, you secure your property you use a long line and a muzzle as necessary and you don't end up in print having your personal life torn into, as I see here. I have to be honest I think that there are some slightly below the bar comments here, especially the comment made about having the owner euthanised, a step too far maybe? I understand that this little staff was a loving family pet but again as I said in my comments yesterday, staffies are very in dependant and need good socialisation so they understand they can't just always charge in and get the upper hand. I will also say that while I don't put a muzzle on my boy, as he is well socialised, he always wears a long line, I do allow him to have a short period of rough and tumble when out for walks, with smaller breeds especially I let him have a bounce and a sniff and a run then I simply recall him to heel and we leave (with other owners consent of course) there are such simple measures that can be taken to ensure a well behaved well socialised well balanced staffie, and I also agree with the liability insurance, I have it, and I feel that it should be compulsory, there will come a time when the same legislation that is in place for Pit Bulls will be put in place for all the Bull breeds, this is not an issue for me as I would do all that was required to ensure my boy is kept legally and safely, but maybe then those of you that want this breed culled will go some way to getting what you want as there will be a huge amount of owners that are unable or unwilling to pay up or put the effort in, maybe that will be the time we can put ownership of this very demanding but entertaining and loving breed back into some order and prospective, I say again today as I did yesterday feel free to tell me I am a chav and that me and my boy are a menace to society but I have to be honest, I don't own a Burberry hat or a track suit and I am co-owner of a fledgling business, I own this breed purely out of love for it xx Millie0505
  • Score: 23

4:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Randoor says...

The owner is responsible for the dog to put down , It was their fault that the dog escaped their garden and attacked , They have clearly failed in their responsibility of ownership of a dog.
I am saddened by the way that these irresponsible people are even allowed to own a dog.
I do hope that they are banned from keeping a dog for the rest of their lives.
The owner is responsible for the dog to put down , It was their fault that the dog escaped their garden and attacked , They have clearly failed in their responsibility of ownership of a dog. I am saddened by the way that these irresponsible people are even allowed to own a dog. I do hope that they are banned from keeping a dog for the rest of their lives. Randoor
  • Score: 34

4:35pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Graeme Harrison says...

massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
What legal aid, you dick?
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]What legal aid, you dick? Graeme Harrison
  • Score: -36

4:37pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Graeme Harrison wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
What legal aid, you dick?
I'd guess the op was referring to this statement?......

She added: “I’m fuming and I’m going to take every step of legal action I can take to make them know what they have done is wrong.”
[quote][p][bold]Graeme Harrison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]What legal aid, you dick?[/p][/quote]I'd guess the op was referring to this statement?...... She added: “I’m fuming and I’m going to take every step of legal action I can take to make them know what they have done is wrong.” IronLady2010
  • Score: 18

4:52pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

Doctor.Death wrote:
Did your husband get his passport?
What the hell has that got to do with the the dog go get a life you you heartless git
[quote][p][bold]Doctor.Death[/bold] wrote: Did your husband get his passport?[/p][/quote]What the hell has that got to do with the the dog go get a life you you heartless git bobby the crane
  • Score: -23

4:55pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

Doctor.Death wrote:
Did your husband get his passport?
Have you got one???? Mr Death the name tells me everything I wish you suffere the same fate as the poor dog
[quote][p][bold]Doctor.Death[/bold] wrote: Did your husband get his passport?[/p][/quote]Have you got one???? Mr Death the name tells me everything I wish you suffere the same fate as the poor dog bobby the crane
  • Score: -24

4:56pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

St.Winch70 wrote:
Another poor dog loses it's life because of an ill-educated moron...
I agree entirely with your comment
[quote][p][bold]St.Winch70[/bold] wrote: Another poor dog loses it's life because of an ill-educated moron...[/p][/quote]I agree entirely with your comment bobby the crane
  • Score: 20

5:00pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

Doctor.Death wrote:
Did your husband get his passport?
Have you got one???? Mr Death the name tells me everything I wish you suffere the same fate as the poor dog
[quote][p][bold]Doctor.Death[/bold] wrote: Did your husband get his passport?[/p][/quote]Have you got one???? Mr Death the name tells me everything I wish you suffere the same fate as the poor dog bobby the crane
  • Score: -16

5:09pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

I have read the above comments some of which are absurd, this poor dog was obviously not brought up in the correct way,I blame the owners but I see stupid remarks about this breed of dog, they are family dogs, if brought up in the right environment, to all of you that disagree just take a bit of your time & look on the internet about the breed
I have read the above comments some of which are absurd, this poor dog was obviously not brought up in the correct way,I blame the owners but I see stupid remarks about this breed of dog, they are family dogs, if brought up in the right environment, to all of you that disagree just take a bit of your time & look on the internet about the breed bobby the crane
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

bobby the crane wrote:
I have read the above comments some of which are absurd, this poor dog was obviously not brought up in the correct way,I blame the owners but I see stupid remarks about this breed of dog, they are family dogs, if brought up in the right environment, to all of you that disagree just take a bit of your time & look on the internet about the breed
I don't disagree with you.
The issue is they are very powerful animals when bought up the wrong way.
What is the solution? Do we start putting dogs into categories regarding how much damage they 'can' inflict when bought up wrong?

A Rottweiler or an Alsation can cause serious harm in the wrong hands.

It's unfair to blame the breed.
[quote][p][bold]bobby the crane[/bold] wrote: I have read the above comments some of which are absurd, this poor dog was obviously not brought up in the correct way,I blame the owners but I see stupid remarks about this breed of dog, they are family dogs, if brought up in the right environment, to all of you that disagree just take a bit of your time & look on the internet about the breed[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with you. The issue is they are very powerful animals when bought up the wrong way. What is the solution? Do we start putting dogs into categories regarding how much damage they 'can' inflict when bought up wrong? A Rottweiler or an Alsation can cause serious harm in the wrong hands. It's unfair to blame the breed. IronLady2010
  • Score: 5

5:25pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

The thing is, for some bizarre reason the 'thick' element of society has adopted this breed as their choice of pet. Yet, there are many decent people out their which also own the same breed and are perfectly normal people.

My brother has a Staffie and she is very placid around people. However, I personally wouldn't allow such a strong dog near young children.

Not because the dog would make a mistake but children will do what they do, pull hair, wind the dog up etc.

They have very strong Jaws and in my opinion should be around children, it's not fair on the dog for a start.
The thing is, for some bizarre reason the 'thick' element of society has adopted this breed as their choice of pet. Yet, there are many decent people out their which also own the same breed and are perfectly normal people. My brother has a Staffie and she is very placid around people. However, I personally wouldn't allow such a strong dog near young children. Not because the dog would make a mistake but children will do what they do, pull hair, wind the dog up etc. They have very strong Jaws and in my opinion should be around children, it's not fair on the dog for a start. IronLady2010
  • Score: 16

5:27pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mark_Jordan says...

I do wonder where all the trolls hide only to come out to judge and talk people down when they get the chance on here.
I do wonder where all the trolls hide only to come out to judge and talk people down when they get the chance on here. Mark_Jordan
  • Score: -17

5:29pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
The thing is, for some bizarre reason the 'thick' element of society has adopted this breed as their choice of pet. Yet, there are many decent people out their which also own the same breed and are perfectly normal people.

My brother has a Staffie and she is very placid around people. However, I personally wouldn't allow such a strong dog near young children.

Not because the dog would make a mistake but children will do what they do, pull hair, wind the dog up etc.

They have very strong Jaws and in my opinion should be around children, it's not fair on the dog for a start.
Apologies should have been 'shouldn't be around children'.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: The thing is, for some bizarre reason the 'thick' element of society has adopted this breed as their choice of pet. Yet, there are many decent people out their which also own the same breed and are perfectly normal people. My brother has a Staffie and she is very placid around people. However, I personally wouldn't allow such a strong dog near young children. Not because the dog would make a mistake but children will do what they do, pull hair, wind the dog up etc. They have very strong Jaws and in my opinion should be around children, it's not fair on the dog for a start.[/p][/quote]Apologies should have been 'shouldn't be around children'. IronLady2010
  • Score: -1

6:07pm Sat 12 Apr 14

cliffwalker says...

Our usually much maligned council has the approval of the vast majority for the action it has taken in relation to this dangerously out of control animal (I'm talking about the dog, ok).
There is a certain type of person, often vociferously defensive of their rights but heedless of their responsibilities, who deserve no sympathy when their own selfish actions cause them grief.
Our usually much maligned council has the approval of the vast majority for the action it has taken in relation to this dangerously out of control animal (I'm talking about the dog, ok). There is a certain type of person, often vociferously defensive of their rights but heedless of their responsibilities, who deserve no sympathy when their own selfish actions cause them grief. cliffwalker
  • Score: 21

6:32pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

seems to be a war on staffs ,look out for more doggy oops i mean dodgy tales and lots of fake gore photos .
seems to be a war on staffs ,look out for more doggy oops i mean dodgy tales and lots of fake gore photos . Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: -2

6:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Suntanned Snowman says...

How about a simple IQ test before being allowed to own a dog? And while they are at it, a similar one before they are allowed to breed!
How about a simple IQ test before being allowed to own a dog? And while they are at it, a similar one before they are allowed to breed! Suntanned Snowman
  • Score: 23

6:51pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough! Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -15

6:57pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers! Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -8

7:02pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Beermug says...

hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
[quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!! Beermug
  • Score: 11

7:03pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
What has perfect children got to do with the story?
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers![/p][/quote]What has perfect children got to do with the story? IronLady2010
  • Score: -5

7:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Beermug says...

kyrrie wrote:
This was the best outcome. It was a dangerous dog. However I do feel sorry for the dog as it's the family's fault this has happened through lack of training and allowing the dog to escape by not securing the garden as previously reported. If the family really cared they would never have allowed this to happen they would have done what was asked of them, they didn't so how can the possibly sue. It is them who should be being sued for the costs of the dog warden, keeping and feeding the dog whilst in care, the vets bill for putting the dog down etc.
Totally agree, they are a drain on public resources that could be better spent !
By looks of it they are costing the taxpayer enough allready.
[quote][p][bold]kyrrie[/bold] wrote: This was the best outcome. It was a dangerous dog. However I do feel sorry for the dog as it's the family's fault this has happened through lack of training and allowing the dog to escape by not securing the garden as previously reported. If the family really cared they would never have allowed this to happen they would have done what was asked of them, they didn't so how can the possibly sue. It is them who should be being sued for the costs of the dog warden, keeping and feeding the dog whilst in care, the vets bill for putting the dog down etc.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, they are a drain on public resources that could be better spent ! By looks of it they are costing the taxpayer enough allready. Beermug
  • Score: 7

7:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
[quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -10

7:07pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence! IronLady2010
  • Score: 11

7:16pm Sat 12 Apr 14

mike coll says...

Ha, The dogs gone to sleep, now time to focus on breeder castration.
Ha, The dogs gone to sleep, now time to focus on breeder castration. mike coll
  • Score: 12

7:39pm Sat 12 Apr 14

millie 20z says...

RIP to the dog she didnt deserve to end up in irresponsible hands which in effect cut her life short, that woman should be banned from keeping dangerous breeds if anything! Her ' legal threat ' wont go far shes broken rules, proving shes irresponsible the council done the public and that dog a favour
RIP to the dog she didnt deserve to end up in irresponsible hands which in effect cut her life short, that woman should be banned from keeping dangerous breeds if anything! Her ' legal threat ' wont go far shes broken rules, proving shes irresponsible the council done the public and that dog a favour millie 20z
  • Score: 13

7:53pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Millie0505 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
I hope that I haven't come across to you as small minded or my comment been perceived as judgemental and I have to say I agree with what you say regarding the verbal bashing this family is receiving about their personal lives BUT THE DOG SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT AND HURT SOMEBODY ELSES PET! I assume you are a friend of the family and that you want to defend them but how can you sit on your laurels and be very short sighted regarding the fact that this little staff was dangerous? I have a staffy and my number one priority is keeping him and others safe! You say the owner is aware that she was scared of other dogs, that in itself should have made her even more conscious of keeping her secured, that and the fact that you say she was a much loved pet but was able to get out of the property and possibly have ended up getting herself hit by a car, do you see how this looks to people that are reading this? There was obviously some issue here with loving the dog and actually genuinely caring for her welfare, I can tell you that I would be in my garden with whatever solid objects I could find to fix any kind of escape route and have it fixed properly at the first opportunity, I would not allow my dog the opportunity to get into this situation, this is ignorance on the owners part and has ultimately led to the demise of the very pet she says she loved in the first place, I am sorry if I seem a bit harsh but the authorities were right to put her to sleep, as I have said in my previous post, if that was my boy I would have handed him over, you can't say you love and respect your pet on one hand but on the other have allowed her to escape several times causing injuries to another , there is no justification for it, especially having to be told by a court what steps to take to secure the dog/property, it shouldn't be an issue, check your garden when you let her out each day, put her in another room when someone comes to the door so she doesn't wiggle past unsuspecting visitors legs and make a bolt for freedom, use stairgates! I use them to keep my dogs safe from escaping/ each other/ themselves! It isn't rocket science just good old common sense, I am sorry for the loss of the families little lady but I am afraid it could have been prevented xx
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers![/p][/quote]I hope that I haven't come across to you as small minded or my comment been perceived as judgemental and I have to say I agree with what you say regarding the verbal bashing this family is receiving about their personal lives BUT THE DOG SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT AND HURT SOMEBODY ELSES PET! I assume you are a friend of the family and that you want to defend them but how can you sit on your laurels and be very short sighted regarding the fact that this little staff was dangerous? I have a staffy and my number one priority is keeping him and others safe! You say the owner is aware that she was scared of other dogs, that in itself should have made her even more conscious of keeping her secured, that and the fact that you say she was a much loved pet but was able to get out of the property and possibly have ended up getting herself hit by a car, do you see how this looks to people that are reading this? There was obviously some issue here with loving the dog and actually genuinely caring for her welfare, I can tell you that I would be in my garden with whatever solid objects I could find to fix any kind of escape route and have it fixed properly at the first opportunity, I would not allow my dog the opportunity to get into this situation, this is ignorance on the owners part and has ultimately led to the demise of the very pet she says she loved in the first place, I am sorry if I seem a bit harsh but the authorities were right to put her to sleep, as I have said in my previous post, if that was my boy I would have handed him over, you can't say you love and respect your pet on one hand but on the other have allowed her to escape several times causing injuries to another , there is no justification for it, especially having to be told by a court what steps to take to secure the dog/property, it shouldn't be an issue, check your garden when you let her out each day, put her in another room when someone comes to the door so she doesn't wiggle past unsuspecting visitors legs and make a bolt for freedom, use stairgates! I use them to keep my dogs safe from escaping/ each other/ themselves! It isn't rocket science just good old common sense, I am sorry for the loss of the families little lady but I am afraid it could have been prevented xx Millie0505
  • Score: 15

7:59pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
What has perfect children got to do with the story?
Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug
h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers![/p][/quote]What has perfect children got to do with the story?[/p][/quote]Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -8

7:59pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
What has perfect children got to do with the story?
Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug
h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers![/p][/quote]What has perfect children got to do with the story?[/p][/quote]Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -8

8:03pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
What has perfect children got to do with the story?
Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug

h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect
Are you suggesting children should be treated as dogs?
I don't get your point.
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers![/p][/quote]What has perfect children got to do with the story?[/p][/quote]Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting children should be treated as dogs? I don't get your point. IronLady2010
  • Score: -5

8:11pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
What has perfect children got to do with the story?
Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug

h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect
Some of us take responsibility for our behaviour in society and think about how our lives effect others. We are the people who try and keep this country/city a nice place to live and we get p11ssed off with people who couldn't give a **** about anyone else.
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers![/p][/quote]What has perfect children got to do with the story?[/p][/quote]Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect[/p][/quote]Some of us take responsibility for our behaviour in society and think about how our lives effect others. We are the people who try and keep this country/city a nice place to live and we get p11ssed off with people who couldn't give a **** about anyone else. bigfella777
  • Score: 9

8:15pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -12

8:23pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves
Errm have you read the article?

That hole is getting bigger!
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves[/p][/quote]Errm have you read the article? That hole is getting bigger! IronLady2010
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves
Errm have you read the article?

That hole is getting bigger!
i smell bs with this woman and pooch attacked ,if i had just been attacked by a bulldog , covered in blood ,posing for photos would be the last thing on my mind ,thought the daily mail was the propaganda king.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves[/p][/quote]Errm have you read the article? That hole is getting bigger![/p][/quote]i smell bs with this woman and pooch attacked ,if i had just been attacked by a bulldog , covered in blood ,posing for photos would be the last thing on my mind ,thought the daily mail was the propaganda king. Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 0

9:09pm Sat 12 Apr 14

wwozzer says...

I bet the council are shi**ing bricks. She probably couldn't afford the bus fare to a free 30 minute legal consultation let alone mount a legal challenge.
I bet the council are shi**ing bricks. She probably couldn't afford the bus fare to a free 30 minute legal consultation let alone mount a legal challenge. wwozzer
  • Score: 7

9:26pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Markmod says...

Such a shame this poor innocent dog had to die. Yes ok it attacked other dogs etc,but that ain't the dogs fault. And everyone that says bull breeds are dangerous need to seriously think again. Surely all breeds/dogs (being wild animals at heart) have the potential of being dangerous. I know my little westie can be when he has his food or a treat. But it's all about discipline I say stop and he does. You got to remember we took these wild animals and socialised them to be a pet. They are just doing what comes naturally.
Such a shame this poor innocent dog had to die. Yes ok it attacked other dogs etc,but that ain't the dogs fault. And everyone that says bull breeds are dangerous need to seriously think again. Surely all breeds/dogs (being wild animals at heart) have the potential of being dangerous. I know my little westie can be when he has his food or a treat. But it's all about discipline I say stop and he does. You got to remember we took these wild animals and socialised them to be a pet. They are just doing what comes naturally. Markmod
  • Score: 3

9:31pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
Again this happened LAST YEAR.... she already had moved
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]Again this happened LAST YEAR.... she already had moved Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -3

9:34pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

wwozzer wrote:
I bet the council are shi**ing bricks. She probably couldn't afford the bus fare to a free 30 minute legal consultation let alone mount a legal challenge.
Wwozzer...........mo
re like To**er
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: I bet the council are shi**ing bricks. She probably couldn't afford the bus fare to a free 30 minute legal consultation let alone mount a legal challenge.[/p][/quote]Wwozzer...........mo re like To**er Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -11

9:39pm Sat 12 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
Again this happened LAST YEAR.... she already had moved
I feel for her Neighbours
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]Again this happened LAST YEAR.... she already had moved[/p][/quote]I feel for her Neighbours IronLady2010
  • Score: 4

10:18pm Sat 12 Apr 14

hayz90 says...

massimoosti wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
Correct I assume..............

... am I not correct then ?
lol i am dislexic i wasnt trying to be rude just h8 hearing animals being put down :[
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]Correct I assume.............. ... am I not correct then ?[/p][/quote]lol i am dislexic i wasnt trying to be rude just h8 hearing animals being put down :[ hayz90
  • Score: -4

11:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough!
And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers!
What has perfect children got to do with the story?
Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug


h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect
Are you suggesting children should be treated as dogs?
I don't get your point.
You should be
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: Just so all the small minded people on here are aware. Kyze was trained but after she was attacked by two dogs she was scared of dogs. The owner tried to get the dog back within the seven days even though she was in hospital and was told that she had to wait until it went to court, the judge agreed that kyze was not dangerous and that they had done everything that they were told to do and that there had been no issues since last summer. The kennels who say that they want to help dogs put Kyze with another dog in a kennel even though they had been told not to and because they didn't like it that they had to legally return her to the owner they destroyed her saying that she hadn't claimed her quick enough![/p][/quote]And to judge somebody's parenting skills or if somebody has a passport or not which has nothing at all to do with the story is crazy. I hope you perfect people remember how you judge when somebody else is on here judging your perfect children if they are ever in the papers![/p][/quote]What has perfect children got to do with the story?[/p][/quote]Im saying the way you judge people just remember somebody could be judging you or your families one day..........althoug h the stupid things you say im sure your children are far from perfect[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting children should be treated as dogs? I don't get your point.[/p][/quote]You should be Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -10

11:09pm Sat 12 Apr 14

BRN111 says...

As said in the previous article , she failed to attend court and pick the dog up from the kennels . If she was so concerned she would have sent family/freinds to attend or pick the dog up . If she loved the dog as much as she claims she would have secured the fence/ rehomed to a sensible person . There is NO EXCUSE what so ever . She needs to take responsibility for her actions . She is the reason this poor dog has been put to sleep.

so many precautions could have been taken to prevent this busy it clearly wasnt a priority .The council/kennels deserve a bottle of wine. I have a dog from them and they are fantastic people who , thanks alot to the media, get a crap time.

The person defending Ms Ryves is doing nothing to paint a better picture . Poor poor dog its a huge shame but owners fault
As said in the previous article , she failed to attend court and pick the dog up from the kennels . If she was so concerned she would have sent family/freinds to attend or pick the dog up . If she loved the dog as much as she claims she would have secured the fence/ rehomed to a sensible person . There is NO EXCUSE what so ever . She needs to take responsibility for her actions . She is the reason this poor dog has been put to sleep. so many precautions could have been taken to prevent this busy it clearly wasnt a priority .The council/kennels deserve a bottle of wine. I have a dog from them and they are fantastic people who , thanks alot to the media, get a crap time. The person defending Ms Ryves is doing nothing to paint a better picture . Poor poor dog its a huge shame but owners fault BRN111
  • Score: 6

5:30am Sun 13 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

Another great example of an ignoramus making lots of noise to hide her guilt/stupidity/crue
lty.
Another great example of an ignoramus making lots of noise to hide her guilt/stupidity/crue lty. redsnapper
  • Score: 4

7:18am Sun 13 Apr 14

Proudtoberomany says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves
Errm have you read the article?

That hole is getting bigger!
Yes thank you I have, however I also know the facts this dog escaped once when a door was accidentally not shut properly. I also know that this whole thing has not been done fairly or legally and if you agree with it or not really doesn't make a difference. We have laws that the kennels have broken. You say you do everything to stop your dog getting out, bit all it takes is one mistake. Im sure your not perfect.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves[/p][/quote]Errm have you read the article? That hole is getting bigger![/p][/quote]Yes thank you I have, however I also know the facts this dog escaped once when a door was accidentally not shut properly. I also know that this whole thing has not been done fairly or legally and if you agree with it or not really doesn't make a difference. We have laws that the kennels have broken. You say you do everything to stop your dog getting out, bit all it takes is one mistake. Im sure your not perfect. Proudtoberomany
  • Score: -3

8:26am Sun 13 Apr 14

BRN111 says...

From what ive read the kennels havent broken any laws . After 7 days the dog becomes thier property . Quite simple really , pick the dog up in 7 days (which is more than long enough for any responsible person who truley wants their dog) if not the dog dosent belong to you . What isnt fair is that 2 dogs were injured and peoples lifes were ruined by a dog attack
From what ive read the kennels havent broken any laws . After 7 days the dog becomes thier property . Quite simple really , pick the dog up in 7 days (which is more than long enough for any responsible person who truley wants their dog) if not the dog dosent belong to you . What isnt fair is that 2 dogs were injured and peoples lifes were ruined by a dog attack BRN111
  • Score: 3

8:44am Sun 13 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

What a very flattering photograph. I would love to know what the young person on the left of the picture in the black tracksuit is thinking.. Any guesses? I think if I was Southampton Council I'd be more scared of a "visit" from this group than any amount of litigation.
What a very flattering photograph. I would love to know what the young person on the left of the picture in the black tracksuit is thinking.. Any guesses? I think if I was Southampton Council I'd be more scared of a "visit" from this group than any amount of litigation. Dai Rear
  • Score: 5

9:15am Sun 13 Apr 14

davidsouth1 says...

If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo.
If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo. davidsouth1
  • Score: 4

9:31am Sun 13 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves
She has already agreed to keep her muzzled when she is out and doing everything possible to secure the garden more to stop her from getting out until she is able to move!

That is what you said last week.

You want to get your own facts right liars always get caught out. I wonder how many other facts you say are not quite true
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves[/p][/quote]She has already agreed to keep her muzzled when she is out and doing everything possible to secure the garden more to stop her from getting out until she is able to move! That is what you said last week. You want to get your own facts right liars always get caught out. I wonder how many other facts you say are not quite true southamptonadi
  • Score: 1

9:37am Sun 13 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

davidsouth1 wrote:
If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo.
That question implies that there was a time in her life when she DIDN'T wear pyjama bottoms. Don't be too sure of that....
[quote][p][bold]davidsouth1[/bold] wrote: If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo.[/p][/quote]That question implies that there was a time in her life when she DIDN'T wear pyjama bottoms. Don't be too sure of that.... Dai Rear
  • Score: 3

9:58am Sun 13 Apr 14

S Pance says...

massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
Yes.
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]Yes. S Pance
  • Score: 2

10:04am Sun 13 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Randoor wrote:
The owner is responsible for the dog to put down , It was their fault that the dog escaped their garden and attacked , They have clearly failed in their responsibility of ownership of a dog.
I am saddened by the way that these irresponsible people are even allowed to own a dog.
I do hope that they are banned from keeping a dog for the rest of their lives.
Exactly.

They didn't claim the dog within 7 days; The dog escaped TWICE, the first time it attacked.

They obviously didn't care for the dog.
[quote][p][bold]Randoor[/bold] wrote: The owner is responsible for the dog to put down , It was their fault that the dog escaped their garden and attacked , They have clearly failed in their responsibility of ownership of a dog. I am saddened by the way that these irresponsible people are even allowed to own a dog. I do hope that they are banned from keeping a dog for the rest of their lives.[/p][/quote]Exactly. They didn't claim the dog within 7 days; The dog escaped TWICE, the first time it attacked. They obviously didn't care for the dog. S Pance
  • Score: 1

10:06am Sun 13 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Dai Rear wrote:
davidsouth1 wrote:
If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo.
That question implies that there was a time in her life when she DIDN'T wear pyjama bottoms. Don't be too sure of that....
LOL! Feckin' jama bottoms! How common!! That alone speaks volumes!
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidsouth1[/bold] wrote: If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo.[/p][/quote]That question implies that there was a time in her life when she DIDN'T wear pyjama bottoms. Don't be too sure of that....[/p][/quote]LOL! Feckin' jama bottoms! How common!! That alone speaks volumes! S Pance
  • Score: 2

10:08am Sun 13 Apr 14

Millie0505 says...

Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves
Errm have you read the article?

That hole is getting bigger!
Yes thank you I have, however I also know the facts this dog escaped once when a door was accidentally not shut properly. I also know that this whole thing has not been done fairly or legally and if you agree with it or not really doesn't make a difference. We have laws that the kennels have broken. You say you do everything to stop your dog getting out, bit all it takes is one mistake. Im sure your not perfect.
Ok I believe you are referring to my post regarding keeping my boy under control AT ALL TIMES, EVEN AT HOME, not iron ladies post, furthermore I am becoming irritated at the fact you will argue every point made here, in the original article we were informed that the dog had escaped on a couple of occasions from a garden that WAS NOT SECCURED, also that her owner was currently awaiting a new home with a more secure garden for kaizer, do you not think that the posters have read this article also? You are very blinkered if you believe that repeating yourself over and over again and contradicting the original story which I will assume was written with the families own words and consent, will make it go away! The only people in the wrong here are her owners, the authorities have rules and laws to follow and abide by, if you are telling me that this poor dog was destroyed within the time allowed I am telling you I don't believe you, and just for information purposes, I am not in anyway trying to come across as "perfect" not at all I am just pointing out how simple it is to ensure your pet is secure, there have been a lot of foot in mouth comments made by you on this thread and also I would like to say that as well as co-owning a fledgling business, having five children, paying my rent and vets bills, also owning a second dog and caring for my disabled daughter I still have time to make sure that my dogs are seccure, where they are supposed to be and cared for, and just to point out there seems to be a teenage son in this picture, I make sure my eldest kids do their share of animal care in this household, why couldn't the elder child have helped out, its ok looking all cross and hard done by in a picture but at the end of the day you have to help yourself and suck it up and get on with it! As I have said before (oh god I have to get off this thread!!)there are no winners here and there are many arguments to be had but at the end of the day yet another staffie has been taken on with little respect or knowledge of this demanding breed and people have to understand that this is always going to be a recipe for disaster!
[quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves[/p][/quote]Errm have you read the article? That hole is getting bigger![/p][/quote]Yes thank you I have, however I also know the facts this dog escaped once when a door was accidentally not shut properly. I also know that this whole thing has not been done fairly or legally and if you agree with it or not really doesn't make a difference. We have laws that the kennels have broken. You say you do everything to stop your dog getting out, bit all it takes is one mistake. Im sure your not perfect.[/p][/quote]Ok I believe you are referring to my post regarding keeping my boy under control AT ALL TIMES, EVEN AT HOME, not iron ladies post, furthermore I am becoming irritated at the fact you will argue every point made here, in the original article we were informed that the dog had escaped on a couple of occasions from a garden that WAS NOT SECCURED, also that her owner was currently awaiting a new home with a more secure garden for kaizer, do you not think that the posters have read this article also? You are very blinkered if you believe that repeating yourself over and over again and contradicting the original story which I will assume was written with the families own words and consent, will make it go away! The only people in the wrong here are her owners, the authorities have rules and laws to follow and abide by, if you are telling me that this poor dog was destroyed within the time allowed I am telling you I don't believe you, and just for information purposes, I am not in anyway trying to come across as "perfect" not at all I am just pointing out how simple it is to ensure your pet is secure, there have been a lot of foot in mouth comments made by you on this thread and also I would like to say that as well as co-owning a fledgling business, having five children, paying my rent and vets bills, also owning a second dog and caring for my disabled daughter I still have time to make sure that my dogs are seccure, where they are supposed to be and cared for, and just to point out there seems to be a teenage son in this picture, I make sure my eldest kids do their share of animal care in this household, why couldn't the elder child have helped out, its ok looking all cross and hard done by in a picture but at the end of the day you have to help yourself and suck it up and get on with it! As I have said before (oh god I have to get off this thread!!)there are no winners here and there are many arguments to be had but at the end of the day yet another staffie has been taken on with little respect or knowledge of this demanding breed and people have to understand that this is always going to be a recipe for disaster! Millie0505
  • Score: 0

10:08am Sun 13 Apr 14

S Pance says...

Dai Rear wrote:
davidsouth1 wrote:
If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo.
That question implies that there was a time in her life when she DIDN'T wear pyjama bottoms. Don't be too sure of that....
Given everything that has been stated above and her lack of care for the dog or herself, I'd send SS round there to check on her children.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidsouth1[/bold] wrote: If you fail to look for and claim your dog after a few days you do not deserve one, let alone a week. Also is she still wearing her pyjama bottoms for the photo.[/p][/quote]That question implies that there was a time in her life when she DIDN'T wear pyjama bottoms. Don't be too sure of that....[/p][/quote]Given everything that has been stated above and her lack of care for the dog or herself, I'd send SS round there to check on her children. S Pance
  • Score: 3

11:05am Sun 13 Apr 14

smiler52 says...

what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others
what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others smiler52
  • Score: -6

12:01pm Sun 13 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

Millie0505 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Proudtoberomany wrote:
Beermug wrote:
hayz90 wrote:
massimoosti wrote:
Am I paying for the legal aid ?

Was I paying for the dog food also ?
how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits
The clues are there!!!
Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume
That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence!
This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves
Errm have you read the article?

That hole is getting bigger!
Yes thank you I have, however I also know the facts this dog escaped once when a door was accidentally not shut properly. I also know that this whole thing has not been done fairly or legally and if you agree with it or not really doesn't make a difference. We have laws that the kennels have broken. You say you do everything to stop your dog getting out, bit all it takes is one mistake. Im sure your not perfect.
Ok I believe you are referring to my post regarding keeping my boy under control AT ALL TIMES, EVEN AT HOME, not iron ladies post, furthermore I am becoming irritated at the fact you will argue every point made here, in the original article we were informed that the dog had escaped on a couple of occasions from a garden that WAS NOT SECCURED, also that her owner was currently awaiting a new home with a more secure garden for kaizer, do you not think that the posters have read this article also? You are very blinkered if you believe that repeating yourself over and over again and contradicting the original story which I will assume was written with the families own words and consent, will make it go away! The only people in the wrong here are her owners, the authorities have rules and laws to follow and abide by, if you are telling me that this poor dog was destroyed within the time allowed I am telling you I don't believe you, and just for information purposes, I am not in anyway trying to come across as "perfect" not at all I am just pointing out how simple it is to ensure your pet is secure, there have been a lot of foot in mouth comments made by you on this thread and also I would like to say that as well as co-owning a fledgling business, having five children, paying my rent and vets bills, also owning a second dog and caring for my disabled daughter I still have time to make sure that my dogs are seccure, where they are supposed to be and cared for, and just to point out there seems to be a teenage son in this picture, I make sure my eldest kids do their share of animal care in this household, why couldn't the elder child have helped out, its ok looking all cross and hard done by in a picture but at the end of the day you have to help yourself and suck it up and get on with it! As I have said before (oh god I have to get off this thread!!)there are no winners here and there are many arguments to be had but at the end of the day yet another staffie has been taken on with little respect or knowledge of this demanding breed and people have to understand that this is always going to be a recipe for disaster!
Why can't we have a story about a nice couple, who worked hard to save for a mortgage, then planned for a family when they could afford it. Maybe they didn't smoke,drink, swear or cause problems in the area where they lived and were friends with their neighbors. Their children grew up with all the love and support they needed and flourished into young adults, went to University were successful and so the process repeated itself.
Instead all we get is these ridiculous stories about people who cannot take responsibility for their lives and it's always the fault of someone else.
Now she talks about rounding on the council who have probably helped her with housing/benefits in the present or past.
It's a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]Millie0505[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proudtoberomany[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beermug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hayz90[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Am I paying for the legal aid ? Was I paying for the dog food also ?[/p][/quote]how heartless a dog was put to sleep and all you can do is ashume she is on benifits[/p][/quote]The clues are there!!![/p][/quote]Nowhere does it say they are unemployed or that she is going to claim legal aid.....get the facts rather than assume[/p][/quote]That hole is getting deeper. If she can afford legal advice she can afford a fence![/p][/quote]This happened last summer she has moved since then. Again if you knew the facts maybe you would keep your pathetic opinions to yourselves[/p][/quote]Errm have you read the article? That hole is getting bigger![/p][/quote]Yes thank you I have, however I also know the facts this dog escaped once when a door was accidentally not shut properly. I also know that this whole thing has not been done fairly or legally and if you agree with it or not really doesn't make a difference. We have laws that the kennels have broken. You say you do everything to stop your dog getting out, bit all it takes is one mistake. Im sure your not perfect.[/p][/quote]Ok I believe you are referring to my post regarding keeping my boy under control AT ALL TIMES, EVEN AT HOME, not iron ladies post, furthermore I am becoming irritated at the fact you will argue every point made here, in the original article we were informed that the dog had escaped on a couple of occasions from a garden that WAS NOT SECCURED, also that her owner was currently awaiting a new home with a more secure garden for kaizer, do you not think that the posters have read this article also? You are very blinkered if you believe that repeating yourself over and over again and contradicting the original story which I will assume was written with the families own words and consent, will make it go away! The only people in the wrong here are her owners, the authorities have rules and laws to follow and abide by, if you are telling me that this poor dog was destroyed within the time allowed I am telling you I don't believe you, and just for information purposes, I am not in anyway trying to come across as "perfect" not at all I am just pointing out how simple it is to ensure your pet is secure, there have been a lot of foot in mouth comments made by you on this thread and also I would like to say that as well as co-owning a fledgling business, having five children, paying my rent and vets bills, also owning a second dog and caring for my disabled daughter I still have time to make sure that my dogs are seccure, where they are supposed to be and cared for, and just to point out there seems to be a teenage son in this picture, I make sure my eldest kids do their share of animal care in this household, why couldn't the elder child have helped out, its ok looking all cross and hard done by in a picture but at the end of the day you have to help yourself and suck it up and get on with it! As I have said before (oh god I have to get off this thread!!)there are no winners here and there are many arguments to be had but at the end of the day yet another staffie has been taken on with little respect or knowledge of this demanding breed and people have to understand that this is always going to be a recipe for disaster![/p][/quote]Why can't we have a story about a nice couple, who worked hard to save for a mortgage, then planned for a family when they could afford it. Maybe they didn't smoke,drink, swear or cause problems in the area where they lived and were friends with their neighbors. Their children grew up with all the love and support they needed and flourished into young adults, went to University were successful and so the process repeated itself. Instead all we get is these ridiculous stories about people who cannot take responsibility for their lives and it's always the fault of someone else. Now she talks about rounding on the council who have probably helped her with housing/benefits in the present or past. It's a disgrace. bigfella777
  • Score: 7

12:39pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

smiler52 wrote:
what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others
Do you have a "clue family"
I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away.
[quote][p][bold]smiler52[/bold] wrote: what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others[/p][/quote]Do you have a "clue family" I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away. Dai Rear
  • Score: 5

1:01pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

Dai Rear wrote:
smiler52 wrote:
what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others
Do you have a "clue family"
I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away.
bassett green close does not suggest underclass status ,what with the housing benefit cap !!!
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiler52[/bold] wrote: what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others[/p][/quote]Do you have a "clue family" I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away.[/p][/quote]bassett green close does not suggest underclass status ,what with the housing benefit cap !!! Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: -3

1:03pm Sun 13 Apr 14

smiler52 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
smiler52 wrote:
what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others
Do you have a "clue family"
I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away.
i don’t have a clue about them and maybe I’m paying for them i don’t no they could be hard working people for all we know as far i i know i could be paying for you to sit at home all day
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiler52[/bold] wrote: what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others[/p][/quote]Do you have a "clue family" I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away.[/p][/quote]i don’t have a clue about them and maybe I’m paying for them i don’t no they could be hard working people for all we know as far i i know i could be paying for you to sit at home all day smiler52
  • Score: -2

3:42pm Sun 13 Apr 14

bobby the crane says...

Doctor.Death wrote:
Did your husband get his passport?
What ON Earth has that got to do with this post you moron
[quote][p][bold]Doctor.Death[/bold] wrote: Did your husband get his passport?[/p][/quote]What ON Earth has that got to do with this post you moron bobby the crane
  • Score: -3

6:20pm Sun 13 Apr 14

richard57 says...

get her off benifits and back to work
get her off benifits and back to work richard57
  • Score: 3

7:12pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Reality-man says...

And now there's only one big ugly scary looking dog in that household.
And now there's only one big ugly scary looking dog in that household. Reality-man
  • Score: 4

4:24pm Mon 14 Apr 14

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE says...

Doctor.Death wrote:
Did your husband get his passport?
Is he an illegal ?
[quote][p][bold]Doctor.Death[/bold] wrote: Did your husband get his passport?[/p][/quote]Is he an illegal ? RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE
  • Score: 0

7:07pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

smiler52 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
smiler52 wrote:
what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others
Do you have a "clue family"
I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away.
i don’t have a clue about them and maybe I’m paying for them i don’t no they could be hard working people for all we know as far i i know i could be paying for you to sit at home all day
You're safe. As a higher rate taxpayer I'm picking up the tab for a shedload of chavs.
[quote][p][bold]smiler52[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiler52[/bold] wrote: what a load of pathetic morons you lot are you don't have a clue family yet you judge get over your sad and sorry lives and stop judging others[/p][/quote]Do you have a "clue family" I expect that makes you incredibly clever and your life totally fulfilled. Or perhaps you're the dimbo who always says "you don't know this underclass family". Would you for a moment suppose we'd want to know them? We pay for them. We can speak about what our money buys. Don't you and your buddies talk about the Big Macs you buy? Now go away.[/p][/quote]i don’t have a clue about them and maybe I’m paying for them i don’t no they could be hard working people for all we know as far i i know i could be paying for you to sit at home all day[/p][/quote]You're safe. As a higher rate taxpayer I'm picking up the tab for a shedload of chavs. Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

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