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Would you pay as you throw?

5:00pm Wednesday 10th January 2007

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FOR decades householders have been able to tip their rubbish away and not really give it a second thought.

For most it was just a case of remembering to put out the bin bags on the right day each week and they would be taken away with no further consequences.

“Evidence from other countries suggests that giving householders a rebate for recycling can incentivise recycling and reduce overall waste."

Environment Minister, Ben Bradshaw

But the tide is slowly changing with the introduction of wheelie bins, alternate week collections and recycling/green bins.

In some parts of the country local authorities have even taken steps to place hidden cameras inside bin lids to monitor how much rubbish is being recycled.

Now one Southampton MP wants to take things a step further - and charge residents for removing rubbish, on top of what they already pay in council tax - all in the name of going green.

Dubbed "pay as you throw", people would be billed up to £90 per year and then given "substantial discounts" based on how much waste they recycled.

Alan Whitehead, MP for Southampton Test, believes increasing recycling is a vital element in tackling climate change which is why he is calling for local councils to be given the power to introduce the "variable charging" system.

The idea has been greeted with some scepticism from council bosses in the city and across Hampshire who say it would bring its own catalogue of problems - not least in policing the scheme.

Recommending the idea be introduced, Mr Whitehead said: "At the moment councils have to collect everything we put out for landfill and the cost is put on council tax.

"Some parts of Europe are recycling 60-70 per cent of household waste but if local authorities in Britain recycled 30 per cent we would be doing very well.

"Landfill is very expensive and the cost of collecting waste and putting it in rubbish tips is going to go through the roof over the next few years.

"If you don't divert from landfill, waste collection costs will go up enormously anyway."

The move towards variable charging is backed by the Local Government Association (LGA), which represents town halls across Britain.

Environment spokesman Paul Bettison said: "For decades people have been used to being able to throw their rubbish away without worrying about the consequences. Those days are over.

"If save-as-you-throw was introduced it would mean a reduction in council tax and a separate charge for waste collection."

It is currently illegal for councils to introduce variable charging but the government is considering changing the law to give local authorities the option of trying it out.

Environment Minister Ben Bradshaw said: "Evidence from other countries suggests that giving householders a rebate for recycling can incentivise recycling and reduce overall waste.

"In turn, that cuts the costs incurred by householders and local authorities. The Conservative-controlled LGA has requested that we give local authorities that freedom, and it is being actively considered."

The government may announce plans to allow variable charging when it publishes a review of its waste strategy in March.

But Eric Pickles, the Tory local government spokesman, warned: "Bin taxes would be deeply harmful to the local environment by causing a surge in fly-tipping, and cuts to the frequency of rubbish collection are already harming public health due to the increase in smells, vermin and infestations."


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Gordon, says...
5:54pm Wed 10 Jan 07

If anyone thinks they willreceive a rebate for throwing away less rubbish,think on.Monies generated from this insane proposal will be used to employ even more interfering council officials with gold-plated pension schemes.
Wake up Britain! This stealth tax must be resisted.

Kaz, says...
6:35pm Wed 10 Jan 07

I fully support this proposition as there is only 9 years' land-fill left in this country. People have to wake up to the fact that things which are in short supply cost more and, as we all know, land is in very short supply in the South-East.
However, I do wish they would collect the recycling on a weekly basis: our household does not throw anything into the waste bin which can be recycled and there is usually only one bin bag per week for the landfill. However our recycling bin is always full, even though we take our glass to the bottle bank (on foot!) and over the Christmas holiday we had to put the excess into a friend's bin and store the rest.

JM, says...
9:37pm Wed 10 Jan 07

omg what? another tax? oh joy. Thought up by those good for nothing green, tree hugging busy bodies. I pay well over the odds for what? a poor rubbish collection service? and now I'm being charged because manufacture a, b & c cannot be othered to implement less packaging otherwise their sales will fall. I recycle loads but only as much as I can. Arodun 30-40% because of this issue. Don't hit us, hit those who create the packaging. As for handing in bottle by foot, some of us have a job its like 8 till 7 each day, that's clearly out of the question. North east somerset recycle bottles (I live there too) why can Southampton?

Joe, says...
10:22pm Wed 10 Jan 07

It is very sensible to look how to improve our environment. To me as an individual I remembered the picture of the MP Mr WhiteHead, giving the example in a pick-up session somewhere in Swaithling I think. That's what I am doing everyday in my front garden and on the pavement in front of where I live. More and not less people are needed to improve the area where we live. Picking-up our own rubbish and disposing-it where it is suggested can only improve our thinking. Adopt - Adapt - Improve.

jan, says...
12:10am Thu 11 Jan 07

thats a ridiculous idea, its just another way for this pathetic government to get more money out of people,
all this will do is make those lazy people who cant be bothered recycling, tip their rubbish at the roadside,
what they need to do is clampdown on companys that overdo packaging,
i have had things delivered, that are so overpacked its a joke,
i recycle newspapers, glass, tins, plastic bottles, and cardboard, i also compost,
but i still create a lot of waste because of manufacturers overpackaging,

lee, says...
12:43am Thu 11 Jan 07

i fill my recycling bin up twice as quick as my regular bin, yet they only collect it half as often.

is it any suprise that things which could have been recycled end up in the normal bin?

Kaz, says...
1:18am Thu 11 Jan 07

JM - I also work full-time,have 2 kids, and am studying for an MSc in the evenings. I'not too busy to give a s**t.

Kelly Biggs, says...
5:52am Thu 11 Jan 07

Yet another thing to pay for!
Obviously Council Tax does not cover everything anymore.
I'm sick of having to pay out more money on things!
People would recycle if everyone was more educated and more facilities were provided.

caz, says...
10:38am Thu 11 Jan 07

I live in a block of flats, we don't have recycling bins but my local tesco has a very good & easily accessible recycling centre. Only where do I store it all in the meantime? With 3 children & a tiny flat there's nowhere to keep it all!If our landlord replaced one of the big bins downstairs for a recycling one it would be so much better & our normal bins wouldn't be overflowing every week! As for the charge I don't agree with it at all, why not charge the people who misuse the system instead of charging everyone & then pretending the people who do recycle will actually get their money back?!

Steve, says...
10:42am Thu 11 Jan 07

Living in Eastleigh Borough, whilst the recent additions of glass and battery recycling collections are laudable, the list of exceptions on our recycling makes a mockery of the process.
As any responsible person would do, I shred all documetns containing personal information beofer disposing of them, however this shredded paprt must go into the refuse rather than the recycling. Also tetrapack-style cartons must go in the refuse, amongst other strange rules. Why is this? I can only assume that these rules are in place to serve the needs of the recycling contractor, not the user or the environment. If there's a technical reason, fair enough but please give us an easily accessible way to recycle more of these falsely "non-recyclables" and my refuse bin will be half as full!

Lewis, says...
11:52am Thu 11 Jan 07

Firstly, I pay my council tax and that includes refuse collection as far as I'm concerned.
Secondly, I do recycle as much as possible but compared to our European neighbours, we are unable to recycle as many items as they do on the continent. Wrapping paper and waxed cardboard cartons are two items that come to mind.
No wonder European figures for recycling are much higher than the UK!

Keely Gallagher, says...
12:59pm Thu 11 Jan 07

Steve: Tetrapaks are made from laminated card, plastic and foil, and are only about 70% recyclable. Putting tetrapaks in your recycling bin would mean they end up with paper products, but would be a contaminant because of the plastic and foil content, which is not acceptable to paper mills. The nearest tetrapak recycling facility is in the Netherlands, as the one in Fife closed down a few months ago. Transporting the waste this distance would probably negate any benefit you get from recycling part of the tetrapak packaging.
In Europe, although recycling rates are higher, they have been recycling for longer. For example in Germany, households have 4 bins for different types of waste, that are collected every 2 - 4, or even 8 weeks, and there are spot fines for putting the wrong material in the wrong bin. Some bin systems are communial, so householders share bins.
I think we have all got it relatively easy!

Fining, says...
1:20pm Thu 11 Jan 07

It would be better if abusers were fined. Not for a tiny spec of material, it would need to be done sensibly. That way people would recycle without paying the council any more money. Ah...I think I've seen why this isn't going to happen. More and more, government and business are seeing commercial opportunity in people who can be bothered to do the right thing for the environment. They know that, through guilt or principle, they can extract more money.
I just hope the new traveller site has plenty of recycling facilities.

Rachel, says...
2:35pm Thu 11 Jan 07

Yes, JM. CLEARLY it's out of the question for you to spend 5 minutes every 2-3 weeks taking your bottles to the bottle bank. I suppose you have time to go to the supermarket for your shopping? Most of them have bottle banks in their car parks you know. It would add just a few minutes to your shopping time, but as Kaz says, you obviously don't really give a s**t.

Helen, says...
9:33pm Thu 11 Jan 07

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As concerned as I'm sure all of us are about the filling of land fills, I religiously do my bit at the recycling centres. But I think the Government is looking at it from the wrong angle! The majority of my non-recyclable refuse is from pointless packaging. If this problem was addressed instead, and more biodegradable wrappings put around our foodstuffs, etc., we wouldn't be faced with ridiculous threats to charge us for refuse, coz there would hardly be any!!!!

Jenny Head, says...
12:04pm Fri 12 Jan 07

I have family in Germany and my Aunty and Uncle have 5 bins in their kitchen. i don't agree with having to pay ontop of what we pay in the council tax. If this was to be introduced and this charge should be taken off the council tax and it should be paid for seperately. I cannot see the Conservative run HCC allowing this, they would lose far too much money. I don't think that anyone would mind paying out extra to get the correct recycling facilities and once they are in place then our taxes on this project could be reduced again. It is not just our futures at stake but our children and grandchildren.

Robert, says...
10:17am Sat 13 Jan 07

Jenny's comment about Germany is quite right and one finds much the same practice in Scandinavian countries. I have often discussed this subject with fellow Europeans and the consensus is invariably a big thumbs-down for the British. And then there's litter....

Oliver, says...
8:26pm Mon 29 Jan 07

I live in the Netherlands and cannot find where the tetrapak recycling centre is. Keely, do you have a link for this place? I recycle most of my waste, we have weelie bins for paper, general waste and recycle at bins plastic/soda bottles and glass. The tetrapaks are 100% recyclable but have to be separated from normal paper waste. I understand that all 3 by products once separated can be reused.

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