City experts leading project to save communities at risk of climate change

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EXPERTS in Southampton are leading a project to help save communities that could be in jeopardy because of the devastating effects of climate change.

Researchers at the University of Southampton are at the forefront of an international £13m project to understand the effects of climate change on people living in deltas in South Asia and Africa.

It comes after a devastating United Nations report raised the threat of climate change to a whole new level and warned of the sweeping consequences to life and livelihood.

The study will look at the Nile delta in Egypt and the Ganges-Brahmaputra in Bangladesh and India, the Mahanadi in India and Volta in Ghana.

The deltas were identified by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) as being vulnerable to climate change and rising sea levels.

The five-year Deltas, Vulnerability and Climate Change: Migration and Adaption project (DECCMA) will look at how people adapt to the physical effects of climate change, like rising sea levels.

It will also look at the economic effects and how farming land has been affected by climate change – and what pressure this puts on a collective population of around 200 million people.

The DECCMA project aims to develop methods to predict how the deltas could change over the next 50 to 100 years.

The study aims to be a tool that will help governments of countries in the deltas to shape their policies on fighting back against the effects of climate change.

Robert Nicholls, professor of coastal engineering at the University of Southampton, is leading the project.

He said: “Deltas are vulnerable areas and we need to act quickly to make more informed choices about how best to live with and thrive in conditions of climate stress.

“We are working with the governments and people of these regions to understand the challenges.”

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7:43am Wed 16 Apr 14

skeptik says...

What have these experts to say about the toll bridge with miles of exhaust spewing vehicles during rush hours - where will the increase in traffic go from the new build in the area?. When looking at the 'Monthly Weather Reports' add a decade eg; Monthy Weather Reports 1940s - all of the things we think are recent are recorded April 1914 Thames Valley flooded - worst in 42 years, 1930s recorded as a warmer increase in climate than today. May 1944 - 'Huge variations in temperature and heavy rainfall with snow in Scotland for the first week. The more I read the more I want answers - not just the ' I am a scientist believe me' - I suspect that the students today are being taught not to question it - beyond doubt - if that is their belief I doubt if they are scientists. How much has the increase been over the past 15 years?
What have these experts to say about the toll bridge with miles of exhaust spewing vehicles during rush hours - where will the increase in traffic go from the new build in the area?. When looking at the 'Monthly Weather Reports' add a decade eg; Monthy Weather Reports 1940s - all of the things we think are recent are recorded April 1914 Thames Valley flooded - worst in 42 years, 1930s recorded as a warmer increase in climate than today. May 1944 - 'Huge variations in temperature and heavy rainfall with snow in Scotland for the first week. The more I read the more I want answers - not just the ' I am a scientist believe me' - I suspect that the students today are being taught not to question it - beyond doubt - if that is their belief I doubt if they are scientists. How much has the increase been over the past 15 years? skeptik
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8:20am Wed 16 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.
The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help. Dai Rear
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9:48am Wed 16 Apr 14

motorizer says...

Where are these 'Devastating' effects of climate change?
Where are these 'Devastating' effects of climate change? motorizer
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10:47am Wed 16 Apr 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

Dai Rear wrote:
The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.
Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.[/p][/quote]Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it. WalkingOnAWire
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11:08am Wed 16 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

WalkingOnAWire wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.
Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.
No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head.
[quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.[/p][/quote]Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.[/p][/quote]No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head. Dai Rear
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11:54pm Wed 16 Apr 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

Dai Rear wrote:
WalkingOnAWire wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.
Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.
No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head.
Dai, owning a thesaurus is not the same as being intelligent. I've overestimated you.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.[/p][/quote]Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.[/p][/quote]No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head.[/p][/quote]Dai, owning a thesaurus is not the same as being intelligent. I've overestimated you. WalkingOnAWire
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7:08am Thu 17 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

WalkingOnAWire wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
WalkingOnAWire wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.
Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.
No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head.
Dai, owning a thesaurus is not the same as being intelligent. I've overestimated you.
And silly abuse is not dialogue. If you don't get it, what I'm saying is that the GW scam is a repeat of all the other "if you don't do what I say you'll be smitten "stuff. Always easily recognisable.
[quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.[/p][/quote]Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.[/p][/quote]No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head.[/p][/quote]Dai, owning a thesaurus is not the same as being intelligent. I've overestimated you.[/p][/quote]And silly abuse is not dialogue. If you don't get it, what I'm saying is that the GW scam is a repeat of all the other "if you don't do what I say you'll be smitten "stuff. Always easily recognisable. Dai Rear
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1:26am Fri 18 Apr 14

WalkingOnAWire says...

Dai Rear wrote:
WalkingOnAWire wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
WalkingOnAWire wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.
Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.
No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head.
Dai, owning a thesaurus is not the same as being intelligent. I've overestimated you.
And silly abuse is not dialogue. If you don't get it, what I'm saying is that the GW scam is a repeat of all the other "if you don't do what I say you'll be smitten "stuff. Always easily recognisable.
Dai, I don't need telling what millenarianism is (having gone to a Catholic school!). Doubting your intelligence is not the same as insulting you - it's simply based on the evidence of what you've said, however elegantly you've said it.

You seem to continue to want to insist that GW is a scam. The science behind it is complex, but graspable if you make an effort to spend the time needed to read and understand it. A non-trivial amount of work is involved in doing this - however, if you do it's fascinating and very rewarding. I don't have the first clue about your educational background, but I hope you don't feel insulted if I make the guess that it's not a scientific one. If I'm wrong about that, then are you telling me that actually you've read the science, understood it, and still reject it?

If I'm right, then it means you haven't got a detailed grasp of the science, but you still instinctively reject GW as millenarianism, a scam, a conspiracy theory, call it what you will. That means that, rather than take in good faith the informed understanding of the huge majority of the world's experts on climate science, you prefer to follow the opinion of a tiny vocal minority of dissenting 'scientists', who in nearly every case can be demonstrated to have links to powerful interest lobbies within the petrochemical industry who stand to see their power and influence reduced if the world turns towards alternate sources of energy.

The logic behind climate change denial is akin to the logic behind those who deny the moon landings took place. It presupposes a much bigger and better-organised conspiracy than the one it's trying to prove, i.e. you'd somehow have to persuade all the astronauts, their families, the NASA staff and their families, the TV station staff etc. etc. to take part in an enormous and flawlessly organised scam that's then stood firm for over 40 years...

With climate change, the question to ask is, which is more probable? That a huge number of the world's best scientists have all been somehow corrupted and now support a climate change model that they really don't believe - or that a very small percentage have been lured into dissenting from the consensus and (well, blow me!) they are the ones who just happen to be remunerated by the petrochemical industry for doing so.

I don't say things like 'we will be smitten'. That's your choice of words, and it's rather too biblical for me. I'm an optimist when it comes to what I think mankind is capable of surviving, and even if anthropic global warming continues unchecked I think we'll eventually find ways to surmount the problems it poses. But there's no doubt that these are big and growing problems, and it could mean that two or three human generations have to sacrifice any economic growth and improvements in living standards (which for many still means having enough to eat and drink) in order to tackle the problem. It disappoints me that someone like you, who I still think has clearly got a decent brain, should seem so flippantly to take the Nigel Lawson/Daily Telegraph/oil industry vested interest line on something as important as this.

I do appreciate the fact that we're capable of having dialogue on these boards, and hope that it continues.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WalkingOnAWire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: The "man made" climate change stuff is definitely a faith and not a scientific work. But isn't it a wee bit patronising of us to be helping all the little brown and black people who won't be able to cope if there is less delta to live on in 40 years time? No earthly chance that, with their state schools superior to ours they will have their own people to show the way? If I remember correctly the Mississippi has a big delta but THEY are mostly good ole boys and not aforesaid little b&b people, so they'll need no help.[/p][/quote]Yes, of course. Man-made climate change is a conspiracy cooked up by 99% of the world's scientists - but we can all just thank our lucky stars that there's a small, plucky band of oil, gas and coal billionaires, press barons and corrupt politicians who are prepared to join forces to deny it.[/p][/quote]No. It's millenarianism. Broadly similar to the Chief in Asterix who fears the sky will fall on his head.[/p][/quote]Dai, owning a thesaurus is not the same as being intelligent. I've overestimated you.[/p][/quote]And silly abuse is not dialogue. If you don't get it, what I'm saying is that the GW scam is a repeat of all the other "if you don't do what I say you'll be smitten "stuff. Always easily recognisable.[/p][/quote]Dai, I don't need telling what millenarianism is (having gone to a Catholic school!). Doubting your intelligence is not the same as insulting you - it's simply based on the evidence of what you've said, however elegantly you've said it. You seem to continue to want to insist that GW is a scam. The science behind it is complex, but graspable if you make an effort to spend the time needed to read and understand it. A non-trivial amount of work is involved in doing this - however, if you do it's fascinating and very rewarding. I don't have the first clue about your educational background, but I hope you don't feel insulted if I make the guess that it's not a scientific one. If I'm wrong about that, then are you telling me that actually you've read the science, understood it, and still reject it? If I'm right, then it means you haven't got a detailed grasp of the science, but you still instinctively reject GW as millenarianism, a scam, a conspiracy theory, call it what you will. That means that, rather than take in good faith the informed understanding of the huge majority of the world's experts on climate science, you prefer to follow the opinion of a tiny vocal minority of dissenting 'scientists', who in nearly every case can be demonstrated to have links to powerful interest lobbies within the petrochemical industry who stand to see their power and influence reduced if the world turns towards alternate sources of energy. The logic behind climate change denial is akin to the logic behind those who deny the moon landings took place. It presupposes a much bigger and better-organised conspiracy than the one it's trying to prove, i.e. you'd somehow have to persuade all the astronauts, their families, the NASA staff and their families, the TV station staff etc. etc. to take part in an enormous and flawlessly organised scam that's then stood firm for over 40 years... With climate change, the question to ask is, which is more probable? That a huge number of the world's best scientists have all been somehow corrupted and now support a climate change model that they really don't believe - or that a very small percentage have been lured into dissenting from the consensus and (well, blow me!) they are the ones who just happen to be remunerated by the petrochemical industry for doing so. I don't say things like 'we will be smitten'. That's your choice of words, and it's rather too biblical for me. I'm an optimist when it comes to what I think mankind is capable of surviving, and even if anthropic global warming continues unchecked I think we'll eventually find ways to surmount the problems it poses. But there's no doubt that these are big and growing problems, and it could mean that two or three human generations have to sacrifice any economic growth and improvements in living standards (which for many still means having enough to eat and drink) in order to tackle the problem. It disappoints me that someone like you, who I still think has clearly got a decent brain, should seem so flippantly to take the Nigel Lawson/Daily Telegraph/oil industry vested interest line on something as important as this. I do appreciate the fact that we're capable of having dialogue on these boards, and hope that it continues. WalkingOnAWire
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7:24am Fri 18 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

As it happens I'm an agnostic on the subject but so long as the Chinese aren't covering their country with totally useless windmills I can hardly see it's a "scientific" response for tiny UK to do so. Moreover if those who don't agree with the orthodoxy are the "usual" villains-the Daily Telegraph this time rather than the Mail and of course (yawn) the wicked oil companies, and its proponents the "usual" leftists, the BBC for example-then somewhere a little red light glows.
Of course fossil fuels will expire and I hate the use of the word "production" for an oil platform: it's extraction, but if the science of "anthropic" (oh dear another embryonic lefty word) global warming is clever why are the "solutions" like useless windmills, so mind-numbingly stupid?
As it happens I'm an agnostic on the subject but so long as the Chinese aren't covering their country with totally useless windmills I can hardly see it's a "scientific" response for tiny UK to do so. Moreover if those who don't agree with the orthodoxy are the "usual" villains-the Daily Telegraph this time rather than the Mail and of course (yawn) the wicked oil companies, and its proponents the "usual" leftists, the BBC for example-then somewhere a little red light glows. Of course fossil fuels will expire and I hate the use of the word "production" for an oil platform: it's extraction, but if the science of "anthropic" (oh dear another embryonic lefty word) global warming is clever why are the "solutions" like useless windmills, so mind-numbingly stupid? Dai Rear
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7:35am Fri 18 Apr 14

Dai Rear says...

PS Wire- looking back to how I started this, you're the scientist and I don't know. Will the rise of water levels NOT affect the Mississippi delta? Maybe these folk didn't fancy an outing there?
PS Wire- looking back to how I started this, you're the scientist and I don't know. Will the rise of water levels NOT affect the Mississippi delta? Maybe these folk didn't fancy an outing there? Dai Rear
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