£2m scheme to improve traffic flow at junction of M27 and M271

£2m motorway revamp in bid to beat the queues

£2m motorway revamp in bid to beat the queues

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IT IS a bottleneck that brings frustration to nearly 100,000 drivers every day.

Motorists are constantly caught in jams at the junction of the M27 and M271 at Nursling, near Southampton, one of the busiest in Hampshire.

Now roads chiefs are planning a multi-million pound makeover in a bid to cut the queues – but thousands of motorists will face months of delays while the work is carried out.

The Highways Agency is due to begin at least eight months worth of roadworks as they add extra lanes from this summer.

Businesses leaders and council bosses have welcomed the £2.3m project and said it will reduce congestion and bring benefits to the economic development of the area.

But the 96,000 motorists who use the junction every day will face traffic misery from July until the end of March.

The Highways Agency is urging drivers to avoid using this junction while the work takes place.

Daily Echo:

Workers will create a third lane on the slip road off the westbound carriageway of the M27 and both the northbound and southbound approaches to the motorway from the M271, as well as putting in additional traffic lights.

They will also replace the hard shoulder on the eastern side of the roundabout with a third lane to ease traffic on the roundabout heading from Romsey or the eastbound carriageway of the M27 towards Southampton.

Diversions will be put in place while the junction is closed overnight and some lanes on both the M27 and M271 will be closed during the day.

The work is part of the Government’s motorway £300m “pinch point” programme which aims to remove bottlenecks on the nation’s roads.

Highways Agency asset manager Philip Sheppard said: “The improvements we’re planning for junction three of the M27 will help to reduce congestion for each journey that is made on it every day.

“They will also help support growth in the Solent economy, underpinning the creation of jobs at the Adanac Park development as well as trade growth at Southampton docks.

“We’ll be working both during the day and overnight, with the work carefully planned to keep disruption to an absolute minimum.

“We’ll publish full details about the project ahead of work starting this summer.”

Hampshire Chamber of Commerce said that the improvements would help improve access to Southamp-ton, which would be necessary after the planned development of Adanac Park, which sits alongside the M271, is complete.

Earlier this year landowners Barker-Mill Estates annou-nced plans to create 47,000 sq m of business space spread over four plots in Adanac Park alongside the M271.

The project will include redevelopment of Yew Tree Farm, plus the creation of 49 homes and an 80-bedroom care home.

The estate claims this will bring 3,600 new jobs to the area.

Work has already begun on a new 43,000 sq m Lidl regional distribution centre at Adanac Park serving the German supermarket giant and creating 400 jobs before the end of 2014.

Chairman of the Chamber’s planning and transportation committee Mark Miller said: “The Chamber has been asking for improvements at this junction for quite a while because we see the growth at Adanac Park and in Southampton generally which required better access, so that is why we’re pleased that this will help the economy of the area.

“The chamber knows that it is a very congested area at peak hours and this affects the freight movements in and out of Southampton and affects the port traffic as well as general commuters, so we welcome the proposed improvements.

“We think they will improve access and reliability of traffic levels into Southampton, as well as Romsey.

“We recognise it needs to be done but we would like to see coordination with all other major roadworks going on at the moment and to keep liaising with the major stakeholders and businesses including the Chamber, which represents all the businesses in the area and that covers everyone including the port. We welcome any improvements on to the strategic roads into and out of Southampton, but want that to go hand-in-hand with improvements to railways and public transport facilities to increase access to the city.”

Hampshire County Council also welcomed the improvements, but they say more needs to be done in the future to keep up with development in the area.

County council leader Roy Perry said: “Of course the roadworks will cause issues, but it is a problem that needs solving and when it is done it will have benefits.

“It will bring benefits to traffic coming from the east towards Southampton and Romsey and also benefits for traffic coming from Romsey wanting to get onto the motorway.

“The M3 and M271 are the export gateway from the Midlands to the Port of Southampton, however, junction three is also a major part of that route.

“I think I would certainly say that the sooner we get it the better.

“Junction three on the M27 is an important junction.

“It should make improvements to the economic development of the area.

“I only see this as one step to the improvements. I think there needs to be further improvements in the future to keep up with future demands on the junction.”

Southampton City Council declined to comment on the proposed roadworks.

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9:54am Thu 24 Apr 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Maybe the left hand lane up to the M271 from the M27 could be made into an automatic lane not impacted by the traffic lights. This was the worst decision made to put traffic lights in at the top of that junction as it just caused tail backs to the M27 and made the road dangerous. Going to 3 lanes will help and is vital.
Maybe the left hand lane up to the M271 from the M27 could be made into an automatic lane not impacted by the traffic lights. This was the worst decision made to put traffic lights in at the top of that junction as it just caused tail backs to the M27 and made the road dangerous. Going to 3 lanes will help and is vital. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 27

10:32am Thu 24 Apr 14

S!monOn says...

Interesting.... these roadworks will be happening at the same time as the proposed improvements to Junction 5.

Hopefully, they've thought this out and won't bring absolute chaos to the region!
Interesting.... these roadworks will be happening at the same time as the proposed improvements to Junction 5. Hopefully, they've thought this out and won't bring absolute chaos to the region! S!monOn
  • Score: 10

10:38am Thu 24 Apr 14

From the sidelines says...

Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users. From the sidelines
  • Score: 3

10:44am Thu 24 Apr 14

wwozzer says...

Why wasn't this done when they put four lanes in? No foresight and always playing catch up. This will be an 8 month nightmare, the improvement will be negligible and 5 years later they'll want to do even more.
Why wasn't this done when they put four lanes in? No foresight and always playing catch up. This will be an 8 month nightmare, the improvement will be negligible and 5 years later they'll want to do even more. wwozzer
  • Score: 12

10:45am Thu 24 Apr 14

Mr E says...

This work is papering over the cracks and will do little to improve our woefully under capacity trunk road network.
This work is papering over the cracks and will do little to improve our woefully under capacity trunk road network. Mr E
  • Score: 6

10:53am Thu 24 Apr 14

Mister E says...

Every little helps!
Every little helps! Mister E
  • Score: 0

10:58am Thu 24 Apr 14

derek james says...

Mr E wrote:
This work is papering over the cracks and will do little to improve our woefully under capacity trunk road network.
absolutely, until they realise that an ever expanding population consisting of one person moving around in a ton of metal is not sustainable the problem will not be solved
[quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: This work is papering over the cracks and will do little to improve our woefully under capacity trunk road network.[/p][/quote]absolutely, until they realise that an ever expanding population consisting of one person moving around in a ton of metal is not sustainable the problem will not be solved derek james
  • Score: 4

11:00am Thu 24 Apr 14

forest-dweller says...

Where do you draw the line though? I generally pass outside of rush hour and there is no problem, so do you spend lots of money to increase capacity and through flow for rush hour or do you accept that you are always going to get jams during busy periods? And get people off the M27 and on to the M271 more quickly and what happens? A bigger jam at the Redbridge Roundabout or on Brownhill Way?
Where do you draw the line though? I generally pass outside of rush hour and there is no problem, so do you spend lots of money to increase capacity and through flow for rush hour or do you accept that you are always going to get jams during busy periods? And get people off the M27 and on to the M271 more quickly and what happens? A bigger jam at the Redbridge Roundabout or on Brownhill Way? forest-dweller
  • Score: 5

11:03am Thu 24 Apr 14

Micle1974 says...

What about the M3 south ??

M3 between Winchester and Southampton is a nightmare.
The signage on the M3 approaching M3 J14 should be improved / add an extra lane to stop people swapping lanes at the last second causing tailbacks.

Also!

Traffic lights at Thornhill Park Road junction with Hinkler road should be investigated........
.These lights cause lengthy tailbacks at M27 J7 !!!!
I hope someone from the roads dept is reading this!
What about the M3 south ?? M3 between Winchester and Southampton is a nightmare. The signage on the M3 approaching M3 J14 should be improved / add an extra lane to stop people swapping lanes at the last second causing tailbacks. Also! Traffic lights at Thornhill Park Road junction with Hinkler road should be investigated........ .These lights cause lengthy tailbacks at M27 J7 !!!! I hope someone from the roads dept is reading this! Micle1974
  • Score: 16

11:05am Thu 24 Apr 14

Charlie Bucket says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
Why would WE need the details of the Jeep? WE aren't going to do anything about it.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.[/p][/quote]Why would WE need the details of the Jeep? WE aren't going to do anything about it. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 5

11:09am Thu 24 Apr 14

sarfhamton says...

How about a decent cheap bus and train service connecting across Hampshire? No thought not.................
How about a decent cheap bus and train service connecting across Hampshire? No thought not................. sarfhamton
  • Score: 8

11:18am Thu 24 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
Its the Southampton Swerve – all the rage around here.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.[/p][/quote]Its the Southampton Swerve – all the rage around here. good-gosh
  • Score: 0

11:40am Thu 24 Apr 14

forest-dweller says...

Micle1974 wrote:
What about the M3 south ??

M3 between Winchester and Southampton is a nightmare.
The signage on the M3 approaching M3 J14 should be improved / add an extra lane to stop people swapping lanes at the last second causing tailbacks.

Also!

Traffic lights at Thornhill Park Road junction with Hinkler road should be investigated........

.These lights cause lengthy tailbacks at M27 J7 !!!!
I hope someone from the roads dept is reading this!
M3 between Winchester & Southampton being a nightmare - reminds me of what it used to be like when it was a narrow dual carriageway with a set of traffic lights in the middle, meaning queues often well past J3.
[quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: What about the M3 south ?? M3 between Winchester and Southampton is a nightmare. The signage on the M3 approaching M3 J14 should be improved / add an extra lane to stop people swapping lanes at the last second causing tailbacks. Also! Traffic lights at Thornhill Park Road junction with Hinkler road should be investigated........ .These lights cause lengthy tailbacks at M27 J7 !!!! I hope someone from the roads dept is reading this![/p][/quote]M3 between Winchester & Southampton being a nightmare - reminds me of what it used to be like when it was a narrow dual carriageway with a set of traffic lights in the middle, meaning queues often well past J3. forest-dweller
  • Score: 3

11:40am Thu 24 Apr 14

focus19 says...

What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late
What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late focus19
  • Score: 11

11:58am Thu 24 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

focus19 wrote:
What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late
If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late[/p][/quote]If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace. bigfella777
  • Score: -24

12:08pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Mr E says...

And here come the Cycleing-Trolls
And here come the Cycleing-Trolls Mr E
  • Score: 8

12:17pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Crazywolf says...

I Blame the employers! they should think more about allowing flexitime and homeworking so as to spread the load.

Or maybe the council should mandate hour changes. Companies in some post codes made to work 8-4, others 8:30-4:30, others 9-5. The rush hour would be longer but less intense.

Whatever happens all they ever think of is 'more of the same'. we need people to think different!
I Blame the employers! they should think more about allowing flexitime and homeworking so as to spread the load. Or maybe the council should mandate hour changes. Companies in some post codes made to work 8-4, others 8:30-4:30, others 9-5. The rush hour would be longer but less intense. Whatever happens all they ever think of is 'more of the same'. we need people to think different! Crazywolf
  • Score: -3

12:18pm Thu 24 Apr 14

befriendly says...

It doesn't matter how many lanes they increase it too when they also intend putting up more traffic lights. More lanes equals more cars all heading towards more lights. They widened the M25 to ease congestion and delays and it just added more congestion as more people sought better paying jobs miles from home and I doubt any of them are any better off after the expenses and stress.
It doesn't matter how many lanes they increase it too when they also intend putting up more traffic lights. More lanes equals more cars all heading towards more lights. They widened the M25 to ease congestion and delays and it just added more congestion as more people sought better paying jobs miles from home and I doubt any of them are any better off after the expenses and stress. befriendly
  • Score: 5

12:19pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Portswood Pete says...

I take you've tried cycling on the roads in Southampton, nightmare dodging the potholes.
Also I don't think a park and ride would benefit Southampton too much, not enough tourist traffic. Funnily enough a mate of mine went to P*rtsm**th on Monday, bank holiday Monday, and the P&R was shut. Do the same nitwits who run our City have a say in theirs?
I take you've tried cycling on the roads in Southampton, nightmare dodging the potholes. Also I don't think a park and ride would benefit Southampton too much, not enough tourist traffic. Funnily enough a mate of mine went to P*rtsm**th on Monday, bank holiday Monday, and the P&R was shut. Do the same nitwits who run our City have a say in theirs? Portswood Pete
  • Score: 1

12:21pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Phil76 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
focus19 wrote:
What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late
If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.
Why can't we have a massive ice rink then fit cycles with some sort of chain tyre thing which would kill lots of birds with one stone?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late[/p][/quote]If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Why can't we have a massive ice rink then fit cycles with some sort of chain tyre thing which would kill lots of birds with one stone? Phil76
  • Score: 1

12:56pm Thu 24 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

bigfella7777 wrote:
I dig hung dudes.
Too many 7's but nice try, there can be only one bigfella777
[quote][p][bold]bigfella7777[/bold] wrote: I dig hung dudes.[/p][/quote]Too many 7's but nice try, there can be only one bigfella777 bigfella777
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Thu 24 Apr 14

hulla baloo says...

Is this the same junction that previously had a direct filter lane from the M27 to the M271.? That worked well. Then this lane was closed, traffic lights added and then problems started.
When are 'planners' going to be accountable for their c++k ups?
Is this the same junction that previously had a direct filter lane from the M27 to the M271.? That worked well. Then this lane was closed, traffic lights added and then problems started. When are 'planners' going to be accountable for their c++k ups? hulla baloo
  • Score: 15

1:19pm Thu 24 Apr 14

manic75 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
focus19 wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late
If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.
No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late[/p][/quote]If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.[/p][/quote]No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not. manic75
  • Score: 7

1:30pm Thu 24 Apr 14

sarfhamton says...

Some interesting ideas on this thread for a change:

Park and Ride: Great idea, one at Burseldon Car Boot, one by the Airport and one on the west of the city. They often operate for events at the Ageas and Saints match days.

Flexible working: Many jobs in the South are desk based, I work one day a week at home as do many colleagues. Follow with through and it reduces traffic by 20% and office space.

Cycling: still these are either incomplete or inadequate. With a bit of thought during resurfacing and planned maintenance we could have a network in 10 years.

Public Transport: Still really expensive, not a fan of subsidy but perhaps some sort of tax breaks or relief?
Some interesting ideas on this thread for a change: Park and Ride: Great idea, one at Burseldon Car Boot, one by the Airport and one on the west of the city. They often operate for events at the Ageas and Saints match days. Flexible working: Many jobs in the South are desk based, I work one day a week at home as do many colleagues. Follow with through and it reduces traffic by 20% and office space. Cycling: still these are either incomplete or inadequate. With a bit of thought during resurfacing and planned maintenance we could have a network in 10 years. Public Transport: Still really expensive, not a fan of subsidy but perhaps some sort of tax breaks or relief? sarfhamton
  • Score: 5

1:45pm Thu 24 Apr 14

phil maccavity says...

Tongue in cheek solution.
Stop educating kids at school
Traffic flows at peak times are generally quite low outside of term tide.
Meanwhile in the real world I can remember when the M27 was first built.there was hardly any traffic on it. Look at it now
In those days most through traffic east to west thro Soton went down Winchester Road and out thro Totton!!
As a previous poster noted, the M3 towards Winchester was a dual carriageway and there were hold ups at Newbury
Unfortunately we all expect to travel more nowadays (by road, rail and air) and traffic volumes will rise to meet capacity available
Tongue in cheek solution. Stop educating kids at school Traffic flows at peak times are generally quite low outside of term tide. Meanwhile in the real world I can remember when the M27 was first built.there was hardly any traffic on it. Look at it now In those days most through traffic east to west thro Soton went down Winchester Road and out thro Totton!! As a previous poster noted, the M3 towards Winchester was a dual carriageway and there were hold ups at Newbury Unfortunately we all expect to travel more nowadays (by road, rail and air) and traffic volumes will rise to meet capacity available phil maccavity
  • Score: 2

1:55pm Thu 24 Apr 14

sarfhamton says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Tongue in cheek solution.
Stop educating kids at school
Traffic flows at peak times are generally quite low outside of term tide.
Meanwhile in the real world I can remember when the M27 was first built.there was hardly any traffic on it. Look at it now
In those days most through traffic east to west thro Soton went down Winchester Road and out thro Totton!!
As a previous poster noted, the M3 towards Winchester was a dual carriageway and there were hold ups at Newbury
Unfortunately we all expect to travel more nowadays (by road, rail and air) and traffic volumes will rise to meet capacity available
Not that stupid at all, condense school into a 4 day week with one day for homework or work experience for kids aged 13 plus.

And your right, but a road and it will be filled!
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: Tongue in cheek solution. Stop educating kids at school Traffic flows at peak times are generally quite low outside of term tide. Meanwhile in the real world I can remember when the M27 was first built.there was hardly any traffic on it. Look at it now In those days most through traffic east to west thro Soton went down Winchester Road and out thro Totton!! As a previous poster noted, the M3 towards Winchester was a dual carriageway and there were hold ups at Newbury Unfortunately we all expect to travel more nowadays (by road, rail and air) and traffic volumes will rise to meet capacity available[/p][/quote]Not that stupid at all, condense school into a 4 day week with one day for homework or work experience for kids aged 13 plus. And your right, but a road and it will be filled! sarfhamton
  • Score: 1

1:56pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Datarater says...

The whole thing should be a proper motorways to motorway interchange with appropriate lanes. Get rid of the traffic lights and roundabout and do a proper job.
The whole thing should be a proper motorways to motorway interchange with appropriate lanes. Get rid of the traffic lights and roundabout and do a proper job. Datarater
  • Score: 7

2:08pm Thu 24 Apr 14

The Mad Dog says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'.
It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.[/p][/quote]It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'. It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!) The Mad Dog
  • Score: 2

2:17pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Zexagon says...

The Mad Dog wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'.
It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)
Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car
[quote][p][bold]The Mad Dog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.[/p][/quote]It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'. It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)[/p][/quote]Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car Zexagon
  • Score: 1

2:35pm Thu 24 Apr 14

theburrower says...

What is the point of " opening the tap" from the M27 when the plughole is blocked at Redbridge ? Perhaps the Highways Agency experts could venture down the M271 and look at the travesty of a road system that they are sending people to. Single lane motorway access and egress from the so called premier passenger port in the country, quite pathetic.
What is the point of " opening the tap" from the M27 when the plughole is blocked at Redbridge ? Perhaps the Highways Agency experts could venture down the M271 and look at the travesty of a road system that they are sending people to. Single lane motorway access and egress from the so called premier passenger port in the country, quite pathetic. theburrower
  • Score: 6

3:36pm Thu 24 Apr 14

S!monOn says...

Zexagon wrote:
The Mad Dog wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'.
It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)
Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car
What caravan?! What speedboat?!

I suppose you think most of the Range Rover owners in London make use of their off road capabiliies in Knightsbridge?
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Mad Dog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.[/p][/quote]It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'. It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)[/p][/quote]Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car[/p][/quote]What caravan?! What speedboat?! I suppose you think most of the Range Rover owners in London make use of their off road capabiliies in Knightsbridge? S!monOn
  • Score: 3

4:24pm Thu 24 Apr 14

camerajuan says...

manic75 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
focus19 wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late
If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.
No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not.
Nobody is saying everyone should cycle but if the people that actually could would just get their backsides in gear and do it - we'd have less cars on the road, less pollution and less traffic.

People may not like it but it's true.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late[/p][/quote]If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.[/p][/quote]No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Nobody is saying everyone should cycle but if the people that actually could would just get their backsides in gear and do it - we'd have less cars on the road, less pollution and less traffic. People may not like it but it's true. camerajuan
  • Score: -5

5:16pm Thu 24 Apr 14

red/whitearmy says...

They made the westbound exit slip worse by adding in those stupid traffic lights when there was a contraflow lane in place.
They made the westbound exit slip worse by adding in those stupid traffic lights when there was a contraflow lane in place. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 4

5:47pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Mary80 says...

People want roads improved yet turn around and kvetch when it takes a few months...suck it up
People want roads improved yet turn around and kvetch when it takes a few months...suck it up Mary80
  • Score: -4

6:17pm Thu 24 Apr 14

good-gosh says...

Looks like a great improvement. My old V6 will love roaring round those new bends.
Looks like a great improvement. My old V6 will love roaring round those new bends. good-gosh
  • Score: -2

8:53pm Thu 24 Apr 14

MisterTom says...

Just remove the traffic lights- no need for any roadwork, i know, i only drive there everyday for the last 15 years! The Highways Agency ain't a clue!!
Just remove the traffic lights- no need for any roadwork, i know, i only drive there everyday for the last 15 years! The Highways Agency ain't a clue!! MisterTom
  • Score: 3

9:43pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Zexagon says...

S!monOn wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
The Mad Dog wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'.
It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)
Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car
What caravan?! What speedboat?!

I suppose you think most of the Range Rover owners in London make use of their off road capabiliies in Knightsbridge?
I think the photo is on the M27 and it's not a Range Rover
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Mad Dog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.[/p][/quote]It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'. It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)[/p][/quote]Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car[/p][/quote]What caravan?! What speedboat?! I suppose you think most of the Range Rover owners in London make use of their off road capabiliies in Knightsbridge?[/p][/quote]I think the photo is on the M27 and it's not a Range Rover Zexagon
  • Score: -2

10:14pm Thu 24 Apr 14

southamptonadi says...

Datarater wrote:
The whole thing should be a proper motorways to motorway interchange with appropriate lanes. Get rid of the traffic lights and roundabout and do a proper job.
Yes get rid of the roundabout a built day proper system, our own spaghetti junction
[quote][p][bold]Datarater[/bold] wrote: The whole thing should be a proper motorways to motorway interchange with appropriate lanes. Get rid of the traffic lights and roundabout and do a proper job.[/p][/quote]Yes get rid of the roundabout a built day proper system, our own spaghetti junction southamptonadi
  • Score: 1

6:45am Fri 25 Apr 14

derek james says...

camerajuan wrote:
manic75 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
focus19 wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late
If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.
No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not.
Nobody is saying everyone should cycle but if the people that actually could would just get their backsides in gear and do it - we'd have less cars on the road, less pollution and less traffic.

People may not like it but it's true.
absolutely true, i cycle to work and only use car at weekends, it pains me i have to pay full road tax.the fact is most drivers could make do with a "smart" sized car, that wo uld help the queues.
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late[/p][/quote]If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.[/p][/quote]No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Nobody is saying everyone should cycle but if the people that actually could would just get their backsides in gear and do it - we'd have less cars on the road, less pollution and less traffic. People may not like it but it's true.[/p][/quote]absolutely true, i cycle to work and only use car at weekends, it pains me i have to pay full road tax.the fact is most drivers could make do with a "smart" sized car, that wo uld help the queues. derek james
  • Score: -3

9:35am Fri 25 Apr 14

camerajuan says...

camerajuan wrote:
manic75 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
focus19 wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late
If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.
No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not.
Nobody is saying everyone should cycle but if the people that actually could would just get their backsides in gear and do it - we'd have less cars on the road, less pollution and less traffic.

People may not like it but it's true.
Once again, voted down for stating facts.

People HATE truth.
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: What Southampton needs is Park and Ride, It has been Left behind By Salisbury , Winchester and NOW Portsmouth, They could have P&R from Bursledon / Stoneham / Nursling. Southampton get's very Congested at weekends Especially Portland Terrace Havelock Rd and Civic center Hill Even worse when Saints are at home Bad choice by the Planners to put a Stadium there. with More Cruise Ships and the ''New'' West Quay Development underway Southampton will grind to halt as starting too now. The city council keep cutting public transport and there are less bus service now than 20 + years ago. People will give up on the city and shop elsewhere and Shop at Salisbury Winchester and Portsmouth, At least the Council have invested in Park and Ride and Public transport. Wake up Southampton before its way too late[/p][/quote]If more people cycled there wouldn't be these problems and Kids might be able to breathe. They should be getting people out of cars not making roads bigger its a disgrace.[/p][/quote]No one will get me out of my car without giving me a viable solution. I'm sorry but cycling for me and my circumstances is not viable! Until that solution arrives, I stick with my car, whether you like it or not.[/p][/quote]Nobody is saying everyone should cycle but if the people that actually could would just get their backsides in gear and do it - we'd have less cars on the road, less pollution and less traffic. People may not like it but it's true.[/p][/quote]Once again, voted down for stating facts. People HATE truth. camerajuan
  • Score: -1

11:50am Fri 25 Apr 14

S!monOn says...

Zexagon wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
The Mad Dog wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line.

I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.
It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'.
It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)
Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car
What caravan?! What speedboat?!

I suppose you think most of the Range Rover owners in London make use of their off road capabiliies in Knightsbridge?
I think the photo is on the M27 and it's not a Range Rover
You didn't get my point did you?
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Mad Dog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Can we have details of the Jeep in the photograph, as the driver is committing an offence by crossing the solid white line. I doubt that such law-breaking benefits either the traffic flow or the safety of other road-users.[/p][/quote]It's OK, they're driving a large American 4x4, the drivers of those vehicles have special dispensation to drive like a 'cupboard door handle'. It is because they have a low level of decision making skills. (they must have to actually choose to drive one of those things!)[/p][/quote]Yes he should tow his caravan or speedboat with a smart car[/p][/quote]What caravan?! What speedboat?! I suppose you think most of the Range Rover owners in London make use of their off road capabiliies in Knightsbridge?[/p][/quote]I think the photo is on the M27 and it's not a Range Rover[/p][/quote]You didn't get my point did you? S!monOn
  • Score: 2

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