Battle lines drawn up for local elections

Daily Echo: CIVIC CENTRE: A third of seats at Southampton City Council are being contested. CIVIC CENTRE: A third of seats at Southampton City Council are being contested.

BATTLE lines are being drawn across Hampshire as thousands of people prepare to go to the polls.

From 4pm today, nominations will close in the latest round of local elections.

Residents will then cast their votes in Southampton, Winchester, Eastleigh, Fareham and Gosport on May 22.

Southampton will have its first round of city council elections since Labour swept to power with a hefty majority in May 2012, with a third of seats up for grabs.

Since then the council has axed £30m of services and more than 300 jobs, and with up to £30m more cuts expected next year their impact on the city will remain on the agenda.

Despite two councillors having left Labour to form an anti-cuts party, their large majority means that they are likely to remain in control.

Long-standing Labour Woolston councillor and former mayor Carol Cunio will stand down, as will Conservative Sholing councillor Antony Kolker.

Labour’s Georgie Laming also resigned her position recently, meaning that two seats are up for grabs in Millbrook.

And all four of the party leaders at the council – Labour’s Simon Letts, Conservative Royston Smith, Liberal Democrat Adrian Vinson and Putting People First’s Keith Morrell – are up for re-election, raising the prospect that all parties may soon need new leaders.

There is everything to play for at Winchester City Council, with the balance of power finely poised and a third of seats up for grabs.

Both the ruling Tories and Liberal Democrat opposition currently have 27 councillors, and are defending ten and nine seats respectively.

A number of senior and longstanding councillors, including Tory council leader Keith Wood and housing boss Tony Coates, as well as Lib Dem veterans Ray Pearce and Brian Collin, will all stand down.

With 23 councillors compared to the Lib Dems’ six and two independents, the Conservatives are fairly sure to maintain control of Fareham, which will have half of its seats up for election.

Eastleigh has a third of seats up for election, but with 39 Lib Dems lining up against just four Tories and one independent currently, control of the council will not change hands.

In Gosport, where half of the seats are up for election, the Conservatives will be looking to tighten their grip on the council.

They currently have 24 councillors in comparison to five each for Labour and the Lib Dems.

Eyes will also be on UKIP’s performance across Hampshire, with the party looking to capitalise on its success at last year’s county council elections, where it seized ten seats.

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10:47am Thu 24 Apr 14

George4th says...

Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!! George4th
  • Score: 15

11:15am Thu 24 Apr 14

elvisimo says...

maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need. elvisimo
  • Score: -11

11:16am Thu 24 Apr 14

one in a million says...

George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Similar situation in Eastleigh; for years run by the Fib Dems who seem to be unaware that they should serve the people of Eastleigh and not their own obscure political mantra and interests (which at the moment seem to be similiar to developers).

Trouble is, voter apathy being what it is they remain in situ and on the gravy train.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]Similar situation in Eastleigh; for years run by the Fib Dems who seem to be unaware that they should serve the people of Eastleigh and not their own obscure political mantra and interests (which at the moment seem to be similiar to developers). Trouble is, voter apathy being what it is they remain in situ and on the gravy train. one in a million
  • Score: 14

11:17am Thu 24 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Its interesting that a Tory supporter insults the people of Southampton by questioning why they vote in Labour.
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As the losers of the last local election it was noticable the number of Tory posters and, i assume voters, suddenly wanted to ignore the democratic system and spout their bile at the way the people voted.
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Well perhaps the residents of this once great city were sick of the Tory ego trip. The promises of not using taxpayers money to fund a sea museum a mile from the sea and on top of a hill (yet did)...... The £m paid to Capita for a contract that has had to be re-negotiated as its not in the taxpayers interst.
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But perhaps the best question the disenchanted Tories can ask their reducing number of voters is ........
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Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.
Its interesting that a Tory supporter insults the people of Southampton by questioning why they vote in Labour. . As the losers of the last local election it was noticable the number of Tory posters and, i assume voters, suddenly wanted to ignore the democratic system and spout their bile at the way the people voted. . Well perhaps the residents of this once great city were sick of the Tory ego trip. The promises of not using taxpayers money to fund a sea museum a mile from the sea and on top of a hill (yet did)...... The £m paid to Capita for a contract that has had to be re-negotiated as its not in the taxpayers interst. . But perhaps the best question the disenchanted Tories can ask their reducing number of voters is ........ . Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”. Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -8

11:24am Thu 24 Apr 14

southy says...

I can see Labour losing a few seats around Southampton mainly on the east side where UKIP will take a number of Labour voters away from them
I can see Labour losing a few seats around Southampton mainly on the east side where UKIP will take a number of Labour voters away from them southy
  • Score: 1

11:25am Thu 24 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
It does tell you something, it tells you that unfortunately there are many in Southampton that rely on Labour to provide a comfortable lifestyle whilst others fund it.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]It does tell you something, it tells you that unfortunately there are many in Southampton that rely on Labour to provide a comfortable lifestyle whilst others fund it. sotonboy84
  • Score: 7

11:28am Thu 24 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants. sotonboy84
  • Score: 6

12:02pm Thu 24 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

If you aren't going to vote, don't bother to quote.
If you aren't going to vote, don't bother to quote. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

12:16pm Thu 24 Apr 14

townieboy says...

Local council is a joke. Deffo voting this time to oust out labour.
Local council is a joke. Deffo voting this time to oust out labour. townieboy
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Thu 24 Apr 14

George4th says...

elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
If you can imagine Manchester United now getting the manager of Saints under 14s to manage their team then that would equate to UKIP running the country! :-)
(No disrespect to the current Saints under 14s manager!)

UKIP has no substance whatsoever!

People are getting carried away on every little protest they can think of!
(Stop! Think!)

Labour messed up the country and that is no reason to vote UKIP when the Coalition has done a fine job of steering us through the austerity caused by Labour.

Voting for UKIP is simply an anti conservative vote!

These people who are supporting UKIP must accept that they will end up with a LABOUR government!
HELP!
(Or a Labour/LibDem coalition)
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]If you can imagine Manchester United now getting the manager of Saints under 14s to manage their team then that would equate to UKIP running the country! :-) (No disrespect to the current Saints under 14s manager!) UKIP has no substance whatsoever! People are getting carried away on every little protest they can think of! (Stop! Think!) Labour messed up the country and that is no reason to vote UKIP when the Coalition has done a fine job of steering us through the austerity caused by Labour. Voting for UKIP is simply an anti conservative vote! These people who are supporting UKIP must accept that they will end up with a LABOUR government! HELP! (Or a Labour/LibDem coalition) George4th
  • Score: 0

12:29pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
I can see Labour losing a few seats around Southampton mainly on the east side where UKIP will take a number of Labour voters away from them
Indeed, it's looking increasingly bleak for some of the fringe parties.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I can see Labour losing a few seats around Southampton mainly on the east side where UKIP will take a number of Labour voters away from them[/p][/quote]Indeed, it's looking increasingly bleak for some of the fringe parties. Shoong
  • Score: -2

12:45pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options.
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The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... .
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Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control.
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Secondly .... because of Cameron
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Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any.
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Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest"
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After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options. . The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... . . Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control. . Secondly .... because of Cameron . Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any. . Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest" . After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”. Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -7

12:47pm Thu 24 Apr 14

waltons11 says...

I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though.
I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though. waltons11
  • Score: 2

1:52pm Thu 24 Apr 14

southy says...

waltons11 wrote:
I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though.
Gives you the TUSC a real people party and about the only one that is
[quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though.[/p][/quote]Gives you the TUSC a real people party and about the only one that is southy
  • Score: -4

2:03pm Thu 24 Apr 14

forest hump says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
If you aren't going to vote, don't bother to quote.
What if there is no candidate worthy of a vote? What is your solution for that?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: If you aren't going to vote, don't bother to quote.[/p][/quote]What if there is no candidate worthy of a vote? What is your solution for that? forest hump
  • Score: 4

2:50pm Thu 24 Apr 14

aldermoorboy says...

I will be voting Tory as I know they are a decent hard working bunch of councillors in Southampton.
I admire all who stand in the elections for being gutsy, well done to you all what ever your views.
I will be voting Tory as I know they are a decent hard working bunch of councillors in Southampton. I admire all who stand in the elections for being gutsy, well done to you all what ever your views. aldermoorboy
  • Score: 7

2:51pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices.

What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done?
Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc.

If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!!

You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices. What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done? Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc. If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!! You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 1

2:58pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

George4th wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
If you can imagine Manchester United now getting the manager of Saints under 14s to manage their team then that would equate to UKIP running the country! :-)
(No disrespect to the current Saints under 14s manager!)

UKIP has no substance whatsoever!

People are getting carried away on every little protest they can think of!
(Stop! Think!)

Labour messed up the country and that is no reason to vote UKIP when the Coalition has done a fine job of steering us through the austerity caused by Labour.

Voting for UKIP is simply an anti conservative vote!

These people who are supporting UKIP must accept that they will end up with a LABOUR government!
HELP!
(Or a Labour/LibDem coalition)
When you return to planet Earth you will find that the old Etonian coalition has been very busy looking after the interests of a very rich few at the expense of the rest of us.. The Lib Dems will not be part of any future coalition and if there is to be another coalition it will be UKIP hopefully with Labour. The best result though will be a UKIP government of the UK, and us out of the corrupt and over expensive EU.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]If you can imagine Manchester United now getting the manager of Saints under 14s to manage their team then that would equate to UKIP running the country! :-) (No disrespect to the current Saints under 14s manager!) UKIP has no substance whatsoever! People are getting carried away on every little protest they can think of! (Stop! Think!) Labour messed up the country and that is no reason to vote UKIP when the Coalition has done a fine job of steering us through the austerity caused by Labour. Voting for UKIP is simply an anti conservative vote! These people who are supporting UKIP must accept that they will end up with a LABOUR government! HELP! (Or a Labour/LibDem coalition)[/p][/quote]When you return to planet Earth you will find that the old Etonian coalition has been very busy looking after the interests of a very rich few at the expense of the rest of us.. The Lib Dems will not be part of any future coalition and if there is to be another coalition it will be UKIP hopefully with Labour. The best result though will be a UKIP government of the UK, and us out of the corrupt and over expensive EU. Inform Al
  • Score: 3

3:01pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

southy wrote:
waltons11 wrote:
I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though.
Gives you the TUSC a real people party and about the only one that is
Hope you meant about the only one vote.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though.[/p][/quote]Gives you the TUSC a real people party and about the only one that is[/p][/quote]Hope you meant about the only one vote. Inform Al
  • Score: -3

3:04pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices.

What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done?
Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc.

If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!!

You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.
Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices. What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done? Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc. If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!! You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.[/p][/quote]Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year. Inform Al
  • Score: -6

3:08pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
I will be voting Tory as I know they are a decent hard working bunch of councillors in Southampton.
I admire all who stand in the elections for being gutsy, well done to you all what ever your views.
I most certainly do not share your fascination for the Tories, because I support our excellent Cllr. Keith Morrell so certainly will be voting Keith.

But agree with rest of your comment.

If people do not take part in democratic process then in my opinion they have no moral right to moan. If they do not approve any of the candidates then at least they should participate in the process by writing None Of These on the ballot paper.
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: I will be voting Tory as I know they are a decent hard working bunch of councillors in Southampton. I admire all who stand in the elections for being gutsy, well done to you all what ever your views.[/p][/quote]I most certainly do not share your fascination for the Tories, because I support our excellent Cllr. Keith Morrell so certainly will be voting Keith. But agree with rest of your comment. If people do not take part in democratic process then in my opinion they have no moral right to moan. If they do not approve any of the candidates then at least they should participate in the process by writing None Of These on the ballot paper. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 2

3:26pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

Inform Al wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices.

What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done?
Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc.

If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!!

You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.
Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.
I live in the ward so with some experience can only say your imagination is far fetched.

Fact: In Council meeting NuLabour Cllr. Sally Spicer voted for closing the Swimming Pool.

Fact: At meeting about the Swimming Pool NuLabour's Cllr. Sally Spicer DID NOT sat even a single word in support of the pool.

Fact: In Council meeting she along with most other NuLabourites voted to fully support then Leader of the Council Richard Williams over him and his Deputy Cllr. Jacqui Rayment telling lies over the resignation from NuLabour Group by Cllr. Keith Morrell because Keith kept on opposing cuts in jobs and services.

I have been to few full Council meetings, I can't even remember her ever speaking in the Council Chamber, but certainly appear to be collection of robots that automatically put their hands up whenever and however dictated by Thatcherised NuLabour's whip.

Sorry to point few holes in your ukipping!!!
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices. What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done? Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc. If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!! You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.[/p][/quote]Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.[/p][/quote]I live in the ward so with some experience can only say your imagination is far fetched. Fact: In Council meeting NuLabour Cllr. Sally Spicer voted for closing the Swimming Pool. Fact: At meeting about the Swimming Pool NuLabour's Cllr. Sally Spicer DID NOT sat even a single word in support of the pool. Fact: In Council meeting she along with most other NuLabourites voted to fully support then Leader of the Council Richard Williams over him and his Deputy Cllr. Jacqui Rayment telling lies over the resignation from NuLabour Group by Cllr. Keith Morrell because Keith kept on opposing cuts in jobs and services. I have been to few full Council meetings, I can't even remember her ever speaking in the Council Chamber, but certainly appear to be collection of robots that automatically put their hands up whenever and however dictated by Thatcherised NuLabour's whip. Sorry to point few holes in your ukipping!!! Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: -2

3:49pm Thu 24 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it. sotonboy84
  • Score: 1

3:59pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories. Inform Al
  • Score: 2

4:05pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
Oh, and Pearline is a lady's name. We do not have to have women only selection in UKIP to get the best available.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]Oh, and Pearline is a lady's name. We do not have to have women only selection in UKIP to get the best available. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Thu 24 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
waltons11 wrote:
I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though.
Gives you the TUSC a real people party and about the only one that is
Oh behave! Why waste a vote on the nutter party?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: I am really disollusioned with the three main parties, so I will vote, however my vote will really be against those parties as I really do not know anymore who to vote for, but not the 3 or UKIP. I don't think that will leave me much choice though.[/p][/quote]Gives you the TUSC a real people party and about the only one that is[/p][/quote]Oh behave! Why waste a vote on the nutter party? IronLady2010
  • Score: 0

4:14pm Thu 24 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

I'm not going to put any political spin on this article. All I ask is that everyone votes for a party.

Many people lost their life to allow us this process, the least we can do is get off our back sides and vote.

Even if you don't believe in any party simply choose which one you feel is best, you have a right to vote and you should use it. If you don't vote stop moaning!
I'm not going to put any political spin on this article. All I ask is that everyone votes for a party. Many people lost their life to allow us this process, the least we can do is get off our back sides and vote. Even if you don't believe in any party simply choose which one you feel is best, you have a right to vote and you should use it. If you don't vote stop moaning! IronLady2010
  • Score: 2

4:16pm Thu 24 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated. sotonboy84
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Thu 24 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him. IronLady2010
  • Score: -2

4:40pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts. Inform Al
  • Score: -1

4:45pm Thu 24 Apr 14

aldermoorboy says...

Iron Lady vote Tory for these local Councillors they are a hard working, honest, decent bunch, all of them and Southampton are better off with them running this City.
Iron Lady vote Tory for these local Councillors they are a hard working, honest, decent bunch, all of them and Southampton are better off with them running this City. aldermoorboy
  • Score: -2

4:50pm Thu 24 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
The trouble is, they all lie and try to cover up their failures.

I personally believe that some powers need to be taken back from the EU and people should have a say but I don't believe ditching the EU altogether will solve anything. It's a immature response to a situation - I don't like it, don't want it. The situation needs addressing and compromises need to be made.

My beliefs aside, UKIP do have some policies that could escalate and become dangerous. They don't believe in treating people equally, they're discriminating against people based on the colour of their skin or country of origin and they're creating ang fuelling hate against people.

They're selling the idea that leaving the EU will solve everything, all immigrants will go home and all British people will have a job. The truth is that immigration and free movement if properly controlled (which Labour failed royally on) is a wonderful thing and can attract skills and talent from across Europe and many British people are lazy and unskilled and blame their inadequacies on the prescence of foreigners. If they're gone, the finger of blame will point to somebody else.

Immigration and free movement is just one small part of EU membership. There are many powers that need compromising and taking back but there are also many positivies to being in the EU but UKIP focus purely on the effects of uncapped immigration, initiated by Labour.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]The trouble is, they all lie and try to cover up their failures. I personally believe that some powers need to be taken back from the EU and people should have a say but I don't believe ditching the EU altogether will solve anything. It's a immature response to a situation - I don't like it, don't want it. The situation needs addressing and compromises need to be made. My beliefs aside, UKIP do have some policies that could escalate and become dangerous. They don't believe in treating people equally, they're discriminating against people based on the colour of their skin or country of origin and they're creating ang fuelling hate against people. They're selling the idea that leaving the EU will solve everything, all immigrants will go home and all British people will have a job. The truth is that immigration and free movement if properly controlled (which Labour failed royally on) is a wonderful thing and can attract skills and talent from across Europe and many British people are lazy and unskilled and blame their inadequacies on the prescence of foreigners. If they're gone, the finger of blame will point to somebody else. Immigration and free movement is just one small part of EU membership. There are many powers that need compromising and taking back but there are also many positivies to being in the EU but UKIP focus purely on the effects of uncapped immigration, initiated by Labour. sotonboy84
  • Score: 3

4:55pm Thu 24 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.
Immigration is damaging the "white working class".

UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage.

Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation.

Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.[/p][/quote]Immigration is damaging the "white working class". UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage. Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation. Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER? sotonboy84
  • Score: 5

5:04pm Thu 24 Apr 14

George4th says...

Can I just make one thing perfectly clear, whoever is elected for the next government will still inherit a level of enormous indebtedness and that level of indebtedness will mean a continuation of austerity.

Would you trust UKIP or Labour, or both, to handle that?!!

The country is broke.

The country has to be built back up again and it's a long haul.
Who are you going to trust to do that?

UKIP?!
Labour?!
Can I just make one thing perfectly clear, whoever is elected for the next government will still inherit a level of enormous indebtedness and that level of indebtedness will mean a continuation of austerity. Would you trust UKIP or Labour, or both, to handle that?!! The country is broke. The country has to be built back up again and it's a long haul. Who are you going to trust to do that? UKIP?! Labour?! George4th
  • Score: 2

5:22pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

George4th wrote:
Can I just make one thing perfectly clear, whoever is elected for the next government will still inherit a level of enormous indebtedness and that level of indebtedness will mean a continuation of austerity.

Would you trust UKIP or Labour, or both, to handle that?!!

The country is broke.

The country has to be built back up again and it's a long haul.
Who are you going to trust to do that?

UKIP?!
Labour?!
UKIP alone hopefully, definitely not the self serving Tories.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Can I just make one thing perfectly clear, whoever is elected for the next government will still inherit a level of enormous indebtedness and that level of indebtedness will mean a continuation of austerity. Would you trust UKIP or Labour, or both, to handle that?!! The country is broke. The country has to be built back up again and it's a long haul. Who are you going to trust to do that? UKIP?! Labour?![/p][/quote]UKIP alone hopefully, definitely not the self serving Tories. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

5:28pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.
Immigration is damaging the "white working class".

UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage.

Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation.

Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?
The quote I recall is that it is the indigenous working class who are suffering, and having been married three times now I personally do not see why anyone should be immune from suffering, although I fail to see the difference between a civil relationship and a marriage. Of course if splitting hairs is all you have to offer you will just vote for the shepherd of your choice.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.[/p][/quote]Immigration is damaging the "white working class". UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage. Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation. Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?[/p][/quote]The quote I recall is that it is the indigenous working class who are suffering, and having been married three times now I personally do not see why anyone should be immune from suffering, although I fail to see the difference between a civil relationship and a marriage. Of course if splitting hairs is all you have to offer you will just vote for the shepherd of your choice. Inform Al
  • Score: -2

5:37pm Thu 24 Apr 14

sotonboy84 says...

Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.
Immigration is damaging the "white working class". UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage. Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation. Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?
The quote I recall is that it is the indigenous working class who are suffering, and having been married three times now I personally do not see why anyone should be immune from suffering, although I fail to see the difference between a civil relationship and a marriage. Of course if splitting hairs is all you have to offer you will just vote for the shepherd of your choice.
As I thought. Cannot answer.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.[/p][/quote]Immigration is damaging the "white working class". UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage. Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation. Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?[/p][/quote]The quote I recall is that it is the indigenous working class who are suffering, and having been married three times now I personally do not see why anyone should be immune from suffering, although I fail to see the difference between a civil relationship and a marriage. Of course if splitting hairs is all you have to offer you will just vote for the shepherd of your choice.[/p][/quote]As I thought. Cannot answer. sotonboy84
  • Score: 1

5:46pm Thu 24 Apr 14

lisa whitemore says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options.
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The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... .
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Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control.
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Secondly .... because of Cameron
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Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any.
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Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest"
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After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.
Who would vote for a party that a cabinet member stands by his wife calling his voters 'CRETINS,INBREDS and BIGOTS like labour's Asa Thorpes wife did under an alias identity on the Echo Website??? And then refuse to apologise with her husbands Complete support. The Whole party chose to ignore this as they have with any of residents requests,objections or compromise agreements. Remembering they all lied and misled the public too. This party is not seriously capable of running our city. You only have to look at the disgusting state of our cemeteries, the state of our roads and not forgetting the chaos of traffic jams that have only arisen in there term of power. I Would encourage people to go independent or with a party that is genuinely in their position to improve our city in our best interests and not point scoring or blaming the other party!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options. . The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... . . Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control. . Secondly .... because of Cameron . Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any. . Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest" . After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.[/p][/quote]Who would vote for a party that a cabinet member stands by his wife calling his voters 'CRETINS,INBREDS and BIGOTS like labour's Asa Thorpes wife did under an alias identity on the Echo Website??? And then refuse to apologise with her husbands Complete support. The Whole party chose to ignore this as they have with any of residents requests,objections or compromise agreements. Remembering they all lied and misled the public too. This party is not seriously capable of running our city. You only have to look at the disgusting state of our cemeteries, the state of our roads and not forgetting the chaos of traffic jams that have only arisen in there term of power. I Would encourage people to go independent or with a party that is genuinely in their position to improve our city in our best interests and not point scoring or blaming the other party! lisa whitemore
  • Score: 2

5:53pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.
Immigration is damaging the "white working class". UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage. Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation. Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?
The quote I recall is that it is the indigenous working class who are suffering, and having been married three times now I personally do not see why anyone should be immune from suffering, although I fail to see the difference between a civil relationship and a marriage. Of course if splitting hairs is all you have to offer you will just vote for the shepherd of your choice.
As I thought. Cannot answer.
Can't see where thought came in the resonse to my answer.
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]The only danger is sheep who fall for the claptrap you spout. I repeat, UKIP is not racist, not sexist, not anti any religion (including those of us who believe all religions are man made) and the only person currently following the Hitler doctrine of invading foreign countries is Adolf 'Ras' Putin. But I suspect you think he is great, as he is about as honest as your posts.[/p][/quote]Immigration is damaging the "white working class". UKIP support civil partnerships for homosexual couples but not marriage. Can you explain these two points? One is clearly focussing on the effect immigration has allegedly had on a small minority of the UK and the other denies equal rights to another section of society because of their sexual orientation. Can you see this? HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY CLEARER?[/p][/quote]The quote I recall is that it is the indigenous working class who are suffering, and having been married three times now I personally do not see why anyone should be immune from suffering, although I fail to see the difference between a civil relationship and a marriage. Of course if splitting hairs is all you have to offer you will just vote for the shepherd of your choice.[/p][/quote]As I thought. Cannot answer.[/p][/quote]Can't see where thought came in the resonse to my answer. Inform Al
  • Score: -3

5:58pm Thu 24 Apr 14

lisa whitemore says...

Inform Al wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices.

What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done?
Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc.

If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!!

You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.
Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.
Sally Spicer did not help to save the Pool, another labour lie. She was prepared to see it closed down along with the rest of her political party. Where was she when the public were campaigning? The whole Pool Scenario was a farce. Labour wanted to shut this down as they had plans for another load of houses to be built along with the plans to build along lordshill way also. So credit where its rightfully due to Keith Morrell and Don Thomas for saving Oaklands Pool!!
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices. What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done? Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc. If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!! You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.[/p][/quote]Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.[/p][/quote]Sally Spicer did not help to save the Pool, another labour lie. She was prepared to see it closed down along with the rest of her political party. Where was she when the public were campaigning? The whole Pool Scenario was a farce. Labour wanted to shut this down as they had plans for another load of houses to be built along with the plans to build along lordshill way also. So credit where its rightfully due to Keith Morrell and Don Thomas for saving Oaklands Pool!! lisa whitemore
  • Score: 3

6:15pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Soton_Diamond says...

I want my local councillor to be local to where I live. Therefore, I will look at their address before their political party when I vote. How can someone who lives in Millbrook or Swaythling represent someone who lives in Sholing or Woolston and vice-versa. If I have a 'choice' after looking at their address I will be a) surprised and b) try and recall what propaganda was put through my door (if any) and if I really struggle to decide ill use my favourite colour!
I want my local councillor to be local to where I live. Therefore, I will look at their address before their political party when I vote. How can someone who lives in Millbrook or Swaythling represent someone who lives in Sholing or Woolston and vice-versa. If I have a 'choice' after looking at their address I will be a) surprised and b) try and recall what propaganda was put through my door (if any) and if I really struggle to decide ill use my favourite colour! Soton_Diamond
  • Score: -2

6:34pm Thu 24 Apr 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist southy
  • Score: 0

6:40pm Thu 24 Apr 14

southy says...

lisa whitemore wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices.

What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done?
Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc.

If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!!

You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.
Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.
Sally Spicer did not help to save the Pool, another labour lie. She was prepared to see it closed down along with the rest of her political party. Where was she when the public were campaigning? The whole Pool Scenario was a farce. Labour wanted to shut this down as they had plans for another load of houses to be built along with the plans to build along lordshill way also. So credit where its rightfully due to Keith Morrell and Don Thomas for saving Oaklands Pool!!
Was going to say the same the only people involved in saving the pool was Don and Keith of Councillors against cuts, The TUSC and Socialist Party, the none political lot Friends off/Save Oakland,s Pool
[quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices. What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done? Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc. If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!! You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.[/p][/quote]Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.[/p][/quote]Sally Spicer did not help to save the Pool, another labour lie. She was prepared to see it closed down along with the rest of her political party. Where was she when the public were campaigning? The whole Pool Scenario was a farce. Labour wanted to shut this down as they had plans for another load of houses to be built along with the plans to build along lordshill way also. So credit where its rightfully due to Keith Morrell and Don Thomas for saving Oaklands Pool!![/p][/quote]Was going to say the same the only people involved in saving the pool was Don and Keith of Councillors against cuts, The TUSC and Socialist Party, the none political lot Friends off/Save Oakland,s Pool southy
  • Score: -2

7:14pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist[/p][/quote]Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers? Torchie1
  • Score: 0

7:16pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

southy wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
George4th wrote:
Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour?

In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken!

It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!!
Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices.

What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done?
Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc.

If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!!

You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.
Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.
Sally Spicer did not help to save the Pool, another labour lie. She was prepared to see it closed down along with the rest of her political party. Where was she when the public were campaigning? The whole Pool Scenario was a farce. Labour wanted to shut this down as they had plans for another load of houses to be built along with the plans to build along lordshill way also. So credit where its rightfully due to Keith Morrell and Don Thomas for saving Oaklands Pool!!
Was going to say the same the only people involved in saving the pool was Don and Keith of Councillors against cuts, The TUSC and Socialist Party, the none political lot Friends off/Save Oakland,s Pool
Although they split from Labour over the pool, Cllr Sally Spicer took a more intelligent approach and worked with a group a voluteers, and other councillors, including Cllr Lee Whitbread and thanks to the efforts of this group the pool will be reopening early next year. Neither of the two have been present at any of the meetings of the group. They were also conspicuous by their absence at the AGM of the Lordshill Community Association where details of their possible move to the Oaklands site were revealed. I have also never seen anyone connected to TUSC at any of these meetings. So although the pair made a lot of noise when the possible closure of the Tory neglected pool was announced, they have in fact not done anything constructive in its salvation. I myself am not a member of the Labour party and am standing in the Bassett ward for UKIP, but I will not stand back and watch any councillor from any party being dishonestly demeaned.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Why is it that people in Southampton still vote for Labour? In all the years that Labour have controlled the council, what have they done for Southampton?! Besides, it is the Unions who control the local Labour Party as was seen in the last local elections! Promises made and promises broken! It must be obvious that Southampton Labour voters have it wrong when every council in the south (not run by the Unions) is NOT run by Labour!! Surely that tells you something!![/p][/quote]Answer to your first para: People in democratic society are entitled to vote for who ever they like. Because while Cameron, Clegg, Miliband and co may be in love with fascists neo nazis and other thugs, who have grabbed power by forcing out a very corrupt President who at least was democratically elected in Ukraine, and also indirectly court evil organisations like alqeda in some other places, thankfully we the people in UK still have right to exercise our own free choices. What Thatcherised NuLabour (party name Labour is only used by de facto Tories for cashing on the loyalty of people to that great name) has done? Implemented Tory and Con-Dem commitment to destroying public services with greater enthusiasm than even Tories under Cllr. Smith. Tried to lie through teeth over the resignation of Cllr. Keith Morrell but got caught, and created plenty of well paid poodles in the cabinet for the Leader of the Council and of course plenty of traffic jams etc etc etc. If NuLabour admin in Southampton is controlled by the unions then how will you explain that they also destroyed many hundreds of jobs? I wonder what could possibly be your favourite drink or even smoke!!! You may not like it but I along with many others in Coxford will most certainly be voting for Cllr, Keith Morrall, because along with our other excellent councillor Don Thomas he kept his promises made to the people when he was elected last time, campaigned successfully to save facilities like Oaklands Swimming Pool, and what is even more important both Don and Keith maintain regular contact with all the people of the ward they represent, when we only hear from other parties couple of days before the elections, and that too lots and lots of misleading sound bites.[/p][/quote]Actually the terrible two have had little or nothing to do with the saving of Oaklands pool, however Cllr Sally Spicer has been very involved with the team that will be reopening the pool next year.[/p][/quote]Sally Spicer did not help to save the Pool, another labour lie. She was prepared to see it closed down along with the rest of her political party. Where was she when the public were campaigning? The whole Pool Scenario was a farce. Labour wanted to shut this down as they had plans for another load of houses to be built along with the plans to build along lordshill way also. So credit where its rightfully due to Keith Morrell and Don Thomas for saving Oaklands Pool!![/p][/quote]Was going to say the same the only people involved in saving the pool was Don and Keith of Councillors against cuts, The TUSC and Socialist Party, the none political lot Friends off/Save Oakland,s Pool[/p][/quote]Although they split from Labour over the pool, Cllr Sally Spicer took a more intelligent approach and worked with a group a voluteers, and other councillors, including Cllr Lee Whitbread and thanks to the efforts of this group the pool will be reopening early next year. Neither of the two have been present at any of the meetings of the group. They were also conspicuous by their absence at the AGM of the Lordshill Community Association where details of their possible move to the Oaklands site were revealed. I have also never seen anyone connected to TUSC at any of these meetings. So although the pair made a lot of noise when the possible closure of the Tory neglected pool was announced, they have in fact not done anything constructive in its salvation. I myself am not a member of the Labour party and am standing in the Bassett ward for UKIP, but I will not stand back and watch any councillor from any party being dishonestly demeaned. Inform Al
  • Score: 0

7:18pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Inform Al says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?
Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist[/p][/quote]Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?[/p][/quote]Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

8:08pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

Inform Al wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?
Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.
I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist[/p][/quote]Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?[/p][/quote]Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.[/p][/quote]I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

8:12pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Maine Lobster says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
I'm not going to put any political spin on this article. All I ask is that everyone votes for a party.

Many people lost their life to allow us this process, the least we can do is get off our back sides and vote.

Even if you don't believe in any party simply choose which one you feel is best, you have a right to vote and you should use it. If you don't vote stop moaning!
It can't agree with you more.Many of us pick the least of a bad bunch and who you feel is going to do you least harm! Most of us are disillusioned with politics as it seems to be riddled with dishonesty and betrayal. Having said that, not voting is even worse and the 70-80 percent of people that don't vote in council elections only have themselves to blame if they get a bad deal.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: I'm not going to put any political spin on this article. All I ask is that everyone votes for a party. Many people lost their life to allow us this process, the least we can do is get off our back sides and vote. Even if you don't believe in any party simply choose which one you feel is best, you have a right to vote and you should use it. If you don't vote stop moaning![/p][/quote]It can't agree with you more.Many of us pick the least of a bad bunch and who you feel is going to do you least harm! Most of us are disillusioned with politics as it seems to be riddled with dishonesty and betrayal. Having said that, not voting is even worse and the 70-80 percent of people that don't vote in council elections only have themselves to blame if they get a bad deal. Maine Lobster
  • Score: 2

9:22pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Lone Ranger. says...

lisa whitemore wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options.
.
The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... .
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Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control.
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Secondly .... because of Cameron
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Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any.
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Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest"
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After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.
Who would vote for a party that a cabinet member stands by his wife calling his voters 'CRETINS,INBREDS and BIGOTS like labour's Asa Thorpes wife did under an alias identity on the Echo Website??? And then refuse to apologise with her husbands Complete support. The Whole party chose to ignore this as they have with any of residents requests,objections or compromise agreements. Remembering they all lied and misled the public too. This party is not seriously capable of running our city. You only have to look at the disgusting state of our cemeteries, the state of our roads and not forgetting the chaos of traffic jams that have only arisen in there term of power. I Would encourage people to go independent or with a party that is genuinely in their position to improve our city in our best interests and not point scoring or blaming the other party!
Your main gripe is at the beginning of your post ....... the rest of it irrelevant.
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As regards the Oaklands Pool ........ I suggest that you read the post bu InformAl who is actually on the ground and present at the meetings ... I am not and neither are you ...... and it appears that neither Don or Keith are.
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As regards your bit about point scoring ....... well thats EXACTLY what you are doing
[quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options. . The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... . . Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control. . Secondly .... because of Cameron . Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any. . Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest" . After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.[/p][/quote]Who would vote for a party that a cabinet member stands by his wife calling his voters 'CRETINS,INBREDS and BIGOTS like labour's Asa Thorpes wife did under an alias identity on the Echo Website??? And then refuse to apologise with her husbands Complete support. The Whole party chose to ignore this as they have with any of residents requests,objections or compromise agreements. Remembering they all lied and misled the public too. This party is not seriously capable of running our city. You only have to look at the disgusting state of our cemeteries, the state of our roads and not forgetting the chaos of traffic jams that have only arisen in there term of power. I Would encourage people to go independent or with a party that is genuinely in their position to improve our city in our best interests and not point scoring or blaming the other party![/p][/quote]Your main gripe is at the beginning of your post ....... the rest of it irrelevant. . As regards the Oaklands Pool ........ I suggest that you read the post bu InformAl who is actually on the ground and present at the meetings ... I am not and neither are you ...... and it appears that neither Don or Keith are. . As regards your bit about point scoring ....... well thats EXACTLY what you are doing Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -4

9:31pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
Childish fantastical nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist[/p][/quote]Childish fantastical nonsense. Shoong
  • Score: -2

10:12pm Thu 24 Apr 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?
Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.
I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it.
Try Hitlers Mischlinge Army, those that was full Jewish none practising of the Jewish faith, Part Jewish.
One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch was a Jew.
Goering deputy Milch was a Jew.
Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg wrote a book about it, after the war over 400 Jews and part Jews was interview, but there was a lot more Rigg accounted for 1,200 Mischlinge (means Mutt in english), some was even awarded medals 20 was awarded the Knight's Cross, two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals
Goering said when confronted about his deputy being Jewish his reply was ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.'' Goering had falsified Milch's birth record in 1939.
Like I said learn and know your History if you want to stop history from repeating it self.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist[/p][/quote]Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?[/p][/quote]Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.[/p][/quote]I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it.[/p][/quote]Try Hitlers Mischlinge Army, those that was full Jewish none practising of the Jewish faith, Part Jewish. One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch was a Jew. Goering deputy Milch was a Jew. Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg wrote a book about it, after the war over 400 Jews and part Jews was interview, but there was a lot more Rigg accounted for 1,200 Mischlinge (means Mutt in english), some was even awarded medals 20 was awarded the Knight's Cross, two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals Goering said when confronted about his deputy being Jewish his reply was ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.'' Goering had falsified Milch's birth record in 1939. Like I said learn and know your History if you want to stop history from repeating it self. southy
  • Score: -1

10:30pm Thu 24 Apr 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options.
.
The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... .
.
Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control.
.
Secondly .... because of Cameron
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Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any.
.
Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest"
.
After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.
Who would vote for a party that a cabinet member stands by his wife calling his voters 'CRETINS,INBREDS and BIGOTS like labour's Asa Thorpes wife did under an alias identity on the Echo Website??? And then refuse to apologise with her husbands Complete support. The Whole party chose to ignore this as they have with any of residents requests,objections or compromise agreements. Remembering they all lied and misled the public too. This party is not seriously capable of running our city. You only have to look at the disgusting state of our cemeteries, the state of our roads and not forgetting the chaos of traffic jams that have only arisen in there term of power. I Would encourage people to go independent or with a party that is genuinely in their position to improve our city in our best interests and not point scoring or blaming the other party!
Your main gripe is at the beginning of your post ....... the rest of it irrelevant.
.
As regards the Oaklands Pool ........ I suggest that you read the post bu InformAl who is actually on the ground and present at the meetings ... I am not and neither are you ...... and it appears that neither Don or Keith are.
.
As regards your bit about point scoring ....... well thats EXACTLY what you are doing
Lone
I will inform you about the vote on the pool both Cllr Sally Spicer and Cllr Lee Whitbread both voted to close the pool, I was at the meetings and I can tell you now both of these Cllr's did sod all apart from following party lines and avoided the pool saga as much as they can. the Third councillor was Cathy (Redbridge Ward Councillor who was the Labour Whip at the time who dish out Labour punishment to Don and Keith, who seat is up for election this year)
And it was though sear pressure from Don and Keith, TUSC and SP plus the none political group friends of the pool that force the council to change there minds over the pool.
1 Labour councillor did turn up to argue the Labour council case to close the pool down and he got a roasting.
I know I attended the meetings, I help to collect signatures for the petition to present the council with, so that SP (Nick C) could present a case in the Council Chambers floor to keep the pool open,
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]I suggest that you put your cross in the box that you are most comfortable with .... after exploring all the other options. . The Tories are worried sick over UKIP as they fear that so much of their base will diminish ....... The disgruntled Tory voters are deserting the ship by the thousands ...... . . Firstly .. because they cannot see the Tories ever have overall control. . Secondly .... because of Cameron . Even at the local elections decisions/votes are not made just on local issues alone .... the national feel good factor does come into it ..... and at the moment there isnt any. . Put your cross in UKIP if its not in Labour ....... a vote for any other party is acceptance of the failures of today ...... and a continuation of "fill the pockets of the wealthy ..... stuff the rest" . After all .......... Who would vote for a party that calls its members ...... “mad, swivel-eyed loons”.[/p][/quote]Who would vote for a party that a cabinet member stands by his wife calling his voters 'CRETINS,INBREDS and BIGOTS like labour's Asa Thorpes wife did under an alias identity on the Echo Website??? And then refuse to apologise with her husbands Complete support. The Whole party chose to ignore this as they have with any of residents requests,objections or compromise agreements. Remembering they all lied and misled the public too. This party is not seriously capable of running our city. You only have to look at the disgusting state of our cemeteries, the state of our roads and not forgetting the chaos of traffic jams that have only arisen in there term of power. I Would encourage people to go independent or with a party that is genuinely in their position to improve our city in our best interests and not point scoring or blaming the other party![/p][/quote]Your main gripe is at the beginning of your post ....... the rest of it irrelevant. . As regards the Oaklands Pool ........ I suggest that you read the post bu InformAl who is actually on the ground and present at the meetings ... I am not and neither are you ...... and it appears that neither Don or Keith are. . As regards your bit about point scoring ....... well thats EXACTLY what you are doing[/p][/quote]Lone I will inform you about the vote on the pool both Cllr Sally Spicer and Cllr Lee Whitbread both voted to close the pool, I was at the meetings and I can tell you now both of these Cllr's did sod all apart from following party lines and avoided the pool saga as much as they can. the Third councillor was Cathy (Redbridge Ward Councillor who was the Labour Whip at the time who dish out Labour punishment to Don and Keith, who seat is up for election this year) And it was though sear pressure from Don and Keith, TUSC and SP plus the none political group friends of the pool that force the council to change there minds over the pool. 1 Labour councillor did turn up to argue the Labour council case to close the pool down and he got a roasting. I know I attended the meetings, I help to collect signatures for the petition to present the council with, so that SP (Nick C) could present a case in the Council Chambers floor to keep the pool open, southy
  • Score: -3

10:31pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?
Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.
I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it.
Try Hitlers Mischlinge Army, those that was full Jewish none practising of the Jewish faith, Part Jewish.
One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch was a Jew.
Goering deputy Milch was a Jew.
Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg wrote a book about it, after the war over 400 Jews and part Jews was interview, but there was a lot more Rigg accounted for 1,200 Mischlinge (means Mutt in english), some was even awarded medals 20 was awarded the Knight's Cross, two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals
Goering said when confronted about his deputy being Jewish his reply was ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.'' Goering had falsified Milch's birth record in 1939.
Like I said learn and know your History if you want to stop history from repeating it self.
As usual you only select the 'facts' that suit you and then weave them to concoct your own story. Bryan Rigg wrote a book about the 'part' Jews fighting for Hitler and family history's were examined closely to expose any hint of Jewishness in the ancestry of those in high office. Don't try and hint at some twisted nonsense that some were fighting for a regime that was putting their own faith in to gas chambers. Your time might be better spent fabricating excuses for the upcoming round of ritual humiliation of your beloved band of bedfellows.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist[/p][/quote]Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?[/p][/quote]Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.[/p][/quote]I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it.[/p][/quote]Try Hitlers Mischlinge Army, those that was full Jewish none practising of the Jewish faith, Part Jewish. One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch was a Jew. Goering deputy Milch was a Jew. Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg wrote a book about it, after the war over 400 Jews and part Jews was interview, but there was a lot more Rigg accounted for 1,200 Mischlinge (means Mutt in english), some was even awarded medals 20 was awarded the Knight's Cross, two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals Goering said when confronted about his deputy being Jewish his reply was ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.'' Goering had falsified Milch's birth record in 1939. Like I said learn and know your History if you want to stop history from repeating it self.[/p][/quote]As usual you only select the 'facts' that suit you and then weave them to concoct your own story. Bryan Rigg wrote a book about the 'part' Jews fighting for Hitler and family history's were examined closely to expose any hint of Jewishness in the ancestry of those in high office. Don't try and hint at some twisted nonsense that some were fighting for a regime that was putting their own faith in to gas chambers. Your time might be better spent fabricating excuses for the upcoming round of ritual humiliation of your beloved band of bedfellows. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

10:46pm Thu 24 Apr 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
sotonboy84 wrote:
elvisimo wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.
Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.
Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.
I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class".

What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base.

The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.
Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.
No I'm not.

It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!!

They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them.

Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation.

And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish.

How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country.

The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.
I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support.

People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly.

I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.
They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one.
The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years.

Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist
Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?
Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.
I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it.
Try Hitlers Mischlinge Army, those that was full Jewish none practising of the Jewish faith, Part Jewish.
One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch was a Jew.
Goering deputy Milch was a Jew.
Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg wrote a book about it, after the war over 400 Jews and part Jews was interview, but there was a lot more Rigg accounted for 1,200 Mischlinge (means Mutt in english), some was even awarded medals 20 was awarded the Knight's Cross, two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals
Goering said when confronted about his deputy being Jewish his reply was ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.'' Goering had falsified Milch's birth record in 1939.
Like I said learn and know your History if you want to stop history from repeating it self.
As usual you only select the 'facts' that suit you and then weave them to concoct your own story. Bryan Rigg wrote a book about the 'part' Jews fighting for Hitler and family history's were examined closely to expose any hint of Jewishness in the ancestry of those in high office. Don't try and hint at some twisted nonsense that some were fighting for a regime that was putting their own faith in to gas chambers. Your time might be better spent fabricating excuses for the upcoming round of ritual humiliation of your beloved band of bedfellows.
He wrote a full account of the Mutt Army, was not just about part Jews it was about full Jews and part Jews and those that was born full Jewish but change faith, that did not practise the faith, He also talks about a number of Jews by Birth changing there Faith to RC.
Try reading the 1000 page book that he wrote and there are others to, and also a Jewish Rabbi who knew of this his statement can be heard on Path news reel, But if you read the books about the Mutt army it was all kinds of Jews.
So please don't try and wiggle your self out of it, and if you read his book take note on the inside pages because its different to what put up on wilki where you had a quick look
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: maybe we should all vote for Nigel and his UKIP BMP party - with policies like "proper dress in theatres, making the circle line a circle again and glamorous railways " these guys could really make a difference - they are obviously in touch with what people need.[/p][/quote]Supposing of course that you're white skinned, born in Britain, support smoking in pubs, want imperial measurements brought back and of course blame all the problems in the country on immigrants.[/p][/quote]Ignorance must be bliss, you obviously are not aware of the Southampton Test UKIP leader's colour. Pearline is of West Indian origin and like the rest of us does not tolerate racist idiots.[/p][/quote]I'm not aware of his colour but it's nothing to do with ignorance. I believe it's more damaging & representative of the party's true beliefs when the leader, Mr Farage says EU immigration has damaged the "white working class". What relevance is the colour of somebody's skin? You have to admit that UKIP have a track record of racist remarks as well as being obsessed with blaming the UK's problems on immigration. The comment about the white working class is to target their voter base. The party are extremist, racist Neo-Nazi's with no strength to their beliefs other than to attack anybody that isn't white British. The party's ideal is to revert the UK back 50 years & wipe out any developments with it.[/p][/quote]Yes, you are truly ignorant and are confusing UKIP with extreme right wing parties such as BNP EDL and the Tories.[/p][/quote]No I'm not. It's Nigel Farage that said immigration has damaged the "white working class". Cooincidently, as it was Labour that allowed uncapped immigration who also admit it was a mistake, so how do you think your idealised UKIP/Labour coalition will work?!! They also oppose same sex marriage, although they support civil partnerships. Nice of them. Very quickly you see that the party does not believe in equal rights unless you're white, British born and heterosexual. They're discriminationg against people based not on their ability, education, skills or what they bring to the UK, but on the colour of their skin, their country of origin and their sexual orientation. And you're claiming that beliefs like this are not extreme and neo-Nazi? It's worrying there are still sheep falling for all this dangerous rubbish. How do you think Hitler started out? He discriminated against a religion, non-white people, homosexual people, the list goes on, anybody that didn't fit his ideal, just as many don't fit the UKIP ideal of white British born, and he blamed them for all the problems of the country. The only sensible thing anbody can do is NOT vote for such a dangerous party so history isn't repeated.[/p][/quote]I must disagree. Situations such as Hitler will never happen in the future. UKIP are a new party and they are still very young, but they are gaining public support. People are fed up of the main parties as they lie to us constantly. I voted Tory, but must admit Cameron has peed me off when he simply asks for apologies over expenses, if that were one of us peasants we'd be in Court. That ruffled my feathers. Now I don't trust him.[/p][/quote]They been around since 1991 or there abouts, UKIP is 2 anti EU groups (James Goldsmith's Referendum Party. and Anti-Federalist League) that broke away from the Tory Party they both formed to make one party UKIP and that happen back in the 93, N. Farage came from the Tory party to the Anti-Federalist League, it took UKIP 6 years to win there first elections in the EU 8 years if you count the era when they was 2 seperate groups. UKIP are a young party but not a new one. The TUSC as won 4 by-elections now and that is done with in 4 years. Oh situations such as Hitler will happen again if you forget history as history as this habit of repeating it self over and over again, Fascism is on the rise all ready and having a coloured woman to stand in elections is a covinance to give an image, even Hilter had a jewish army and one or two very high ranking officers were jews, So don't make that mistake just because they might have people that are of different skin colour it do not mean that they can not be racist and fascist[/p][/quote]Which of Hitlers army's was Jewish and who were the high ranking Jewish officers?[/p][/quote]Don't rise to southy's rubbish, but oddly enough apparently Adolfs better half was of Jewish descent.[/p][/quote]I know he's fantasising again and so does he but I enjoy watching him wriggle instead of being big enough to admit it.[/p][/quote]Try Hitlers Mischlinge Army, those that was full Jewish none practising of the Jewish faith, Part Jewish. One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch was a Jew. Goering deputy Milch was a Jew. Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg wrote a book about it, after the war over 400 Jews and part Jews was interview, but there was a lot more Rigg accounted for 1,200 Mischlinge (means Mutt in english), some was even awarded medals 20 was awarded the Knight's Cross, two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals Goering said when confronted about his deputy being Jewish his reply was ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan.'' Goering had falsified Milch's birth record in 1939. Like I said learn and know your History if you want to stop history from repeating it self.[/p][/quote]As usual you only select the 'facts' that suit you and then weave them to concoct your own story. Bryan Rigg wrote a book about the 'part' Jews fighting for Hitler and family history's were examined closely to expose any hint of Jewishness in the ancestry of those in high office. Don't try and hint at some twisted nonsense that some were fighting for a regime that was putting their own faith in to gas chambers. Your time might be better spent fabricating excuses for the upcoming round of ritual humiliation of your beloved band of bedfellows.[/p][/quote]He wrote a full account of the Mutt Army, was not just about part Jews it was about full Jews and part Jews and those that was born full Jewish but change faith, that did not practise the faith, He also talks about a number of Jews by Birth changing there Faith to RC. Try reading the 1000 page book that he wrote and there are others to, and also a Jewish Rabbi who knew of this his statement can be heard on Path news reel, But if you read the books about the Mutt army it was all kinds of Jews. So please don't try and wiggle your self out of it, and if you read his book take note on the inside pages because its different to what put up on wilki where you had a quick look southy
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7:32am Fri 25 Apr 14

skeptik says...

If one party was better at running the shop - it would have remained in power for years, they both make a pig ear and we have ended up here. In they come full of promise and out they go leaving a mess, which party does not fit this rule?
If one party was better at running the shop - it would have remained in power for years, they both make a pig ear and we have ended up here. In they come full of promise and out they go leaving a mess, which party does not fit this rule? skeptik
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7:33am Sat 26 Apr 14

stay local says...

southy wrote:
I can see Labour losing a few seats around Southampton mainly on the east side where UKIP will take a number of Labour voters away from them
Southy 13 feb 2012. we are brand new party, a working class party for the majority and not the few, unlike all the other partys, and being a brand new party will take a bit of time to build up the base votes, and from there will work on building more votes.
And just for your interest the TUSC is all ready being talk about as the fourth major political party, The media is talking about us on the same par as the Lib/Dem, and we know right wing Labour is now worried about us.

a bit of a change??
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I can see Labour losing a few seats around Southampton mainly on the east side where UKIP will take a number of Labour voters away from them[/p][/quote]Southy 13 feb 2012. we are brand new party, a working class party for the majority and not the few, unlike all the other partys, and being a brand new party will take a bit of time to build up the base votes, and from there will work on building more votes. And just for your interest the TUSC is all ready being talk about as the fourth major political party, The media is talking about us on the same par as the Lib/Dem, and we know right wing Labour is now worried about us. a bit of a change?? stay local
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5:33pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Datarater says...

It's the Labour self-interest people. Southampton has huge numbers of government workers from teachers, NHS workers, council workers. They know they will get undeserved pay rises if they can just stick it out until their paymasters are back in power.

For proof of that look what happened when Labour got back in in Southampton and Labour took away the pensioner discounts on council tax and gave the high paid workers a 2.5% bung.
It's the Labour self-interest people. Southampton has huge numbers of government workers from teachers, NHS workers, council workers. They know they will get undeserved pay rises if they can just stick it out until their paymasters are back in power. For proof of that look what happened when Labour got back in in Southampton and Labour took away the pensioner discounts on council tax and gave the high paid workers a 2.5% bung. Datarater
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