Mass brawl at wake sparks concerns over licences at Woolston Social Club in Southampton

Mass brawl at wake sparks concerns over club licences

Mass brawl at wake sparks concerns over club licences

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POLICE were called to a social club after reports that a pool cue was being brandished as a weapon as a funeral wake descended into a mass brawl.

Officers were told that two women were fighting on the dancefloor and furniture was thrown as a fracas broke out at the popular club.

And when officers turned up to restore order they found the club president too drunk to give a statement, while bar staff refused to cooperate for fear of reprisals.

Bosses at Woolston Social Club will this week go before the city council’s licensing committee in a bid to extend their licence for two events.

They want temporary event notices (TENs) to sell alcohol and provide entertainment from 6pm to midnight on May 3 for a 30th birthday party, and from 3.30pm to 11.30pm on May 27 for a wedding reception.

But in the wake of the funeral wake brawl earlier in the year, Hampshire Constabulary has objected to a licence being handed out for either event.

The club had been granted a TEN to sell alcohol and provide entertainment from noon to 6pm.

But a police report recalls how officers were called there at 9pm, three hours after the temporary licence had expired, to reports that fighting had broken out inside the venue.

Officers were told that a number of people, who were not members of the club, had started fighting, with two women fighting on the dancefloor and a second scuffle breaking out between two men nearby.

Furniture had been thrown and one man had picked up a snooker cue as a weapon and was threatening other people with it.

A number of children were present during the fighting.

When they arrived, the report says officers asked the club president to provide a witness statement but he was unable to “due to being too intoxicated”.

The report added that when police were investigating the brawl, “bar staff would not assist and provide witness statements to the police to support the offence of affray, due to being in fear of future repercussions”.

Afterwards, licensing officers found that no log had been made of the brawl on January 3 in the venue’s incident book, while CCTV footage was not surrendered immediately on request and there were problems playing footage.

In her report, Karen Reeves, from Hampshire Constabulary’s licensing team, concludes: “The previous incident has left police with concerns with the running of future events after the breach of a TEN and club premises licence.

“With the lack of support from staff and committee members as well as young children being present raises further concern should any further incidents occur.

“It appears clearly that the committee have not learned from this incident and are not prepared to do anything to prevent a reoccurrence.”

The council’s licensing committee will meet tomorrow to decide whether to grant the two licences or not.

The club declined to comment.

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11:22am Mon 28 Apr 14

From the sidelines says...

How classy, a brawl at a wake.

Will 'Woolston Funeral' take over from 'Scouse Wedding' as the simile of choice for such events?
How classy, a brawl at a wake. Will 'Woolston Funeral' take over from 'Scouse Wedding' as the simile of choice for such events? From the sidelines
  • Score: 11

11:45am Mon 28 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

The thing is though I expect most of those involved will see this as standard behaviour and a damned good night out if someone got a good shoeing on the dance floor, so who are the police trying to protect by stopping their license?
The thing is though I expect most of those involved will see this as standard behaviour and a damned good night out if someone got a good shoeing on the dance floor, so who are the police trying to protect by stopping their license? bigfella777
  • Score: -2

12:06pm Mon 28 Apr 14

florence37 says...

This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say,
This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say, florence37
  • Score: 27

12:35pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Harrysdog says...

Looks a nice place for a wedding reception...
Looks a nice place for a wedding reception... Harrysdog
  • Score: 24

12:48pm Mon 28 Apr 14

cliffwalker says...

Should Woolston apply to be recognized as a National Minority just like Cornwall?
Should Woolston apply to be recognized as a National Minority just like Cornwall? cliffwalker
  • Score: 8

12:51pm Mon 28 Apr 14

waltons11 says...

It's a dump and an eyesore and should have been closed years ago.
It's a dump and an eyesore and should have been closed years ago. waltons11
  • Score: 35

1:13pm Mon 28 Apr 14

ktsmom99 says...

If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawl" is it. If it was as bad as the echo describe it it would have been shut down years ago. I've witnessed 2 fights there in 20 yrs and they were over 15 yrs ago when it was different management and committee members. It's changed a lot since then. The "mass brawl" happened at a wake when emotions would have been running high, especially when the wake was for a murder victim that has recently been covered by the echo. It's not an everyday occurrence but an isolated incident. Please don't comment on things you know nothing about.
If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawl" is it. If it was as bad as the echo describe it it would have been shut down years ago. I've witnessed 2 fights there in 20 yrs and they were over 15 yrs ago when it was different management and committee members. It's changed a lot since then. The "mass brawl" happened at a wake when emotions would have been running high, especially when the wake was for a murder victim that has recently been covered by the echo. It's not an everyday occurrence but an isolated incident. Please don't comment on things you know nothing about. ktsmom99
  • Score: 16

1:46pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Tiz says...

ktsmom99 - the club is being slated because:
1) it was on their premises so they have control.
2) the incident was not recorded in their log book (breach of condition)
3) they failed to provide CCTV footage of the incident promptly (breach of condition)
4) the incident occurred 3 hours after a TEN (Temporary Event Notice) for the wake had expired, therefore any licensable activities that would have taken place after 6pm would have been unlawful
Also, the club's certificate (license) is not being reviewed, only their notification of a TEN is being objected to
ktsmom99 - the club is being slated because: 1) it was on their premises so they have control. 2) the incident was not recorded in their log book (breach of condition) 3) they failed to provide CCTV footage of the incident promptly (breach of condition) 4) the incident occurred 3 hours after a TEN (Temporary Event Notice) for the wake had expired, therefore any licensable activities that would have taken place after 6pm would have been unlawful Also, the club's certificate (license) is not being reviewed, only their notification of a TEN is being objected to Tiz
  • Score: 27

1:49pm Mon 28 Apr 14

paddlebunny2014 says...

OH MY GOOD GOD!!!

This was a lovely pub and all staff and club members were nice and friendly. My mother (an ex-landlady of the pub) would have a fit if she was still alive. The people who started the brawl should be utterley ashamed. I think they should be made to make a public apology to all involved.

What is the world coming to if staff feel they can not give statements in fear or reprisals.

I am so outraged that I don't think it wise I type anything else on the mater
OH MY GOOD GOD!!! This was a lovely pub and all staff and club members were nice and friendly. My mother (an ex-landlady of the pub) would have a fit if she was still alive. The people who started the brawl should be utterley ashamed. I think they should be made to make a public apology to all involved. What is the world coming to if staff feel they can not give statements in fear or reprisals. I am so outraged that I don't think it wise I type anything else on the mater paddlebunny2014
  • Score: 8

1:50pm Mon 28 Apr 14

sotonmusical says...

hahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha sotonmusical
  • Score: 2

1:55pm Mon 28 Apr 14

weall8leedscum says...

florence37 wrote:
This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say,
Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]florence37[/bold] wrote: This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say,[/p][/quote]Idiot. weall8leedscum
  • Score: -9

2:00pm Mon 28 Apr 14

weall8leedscum says...

waltons11 wrote:
It's a dump and an eyesore and should have been closed years ago.
A bit like your Echo user account.
[quote][p][bold]waltons11[/bold] wrote: It's a dump and an eyesore and should have been closed years ago.[/p][/quote]A bit like your Echo user account. weall8leedscum
  • Score: -7

2:58pm Mon 28 Apr 14

The Wickham Man says...

As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off.
As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off. The Wickham Man
  • Score: 3

3:09pm Mon 28 Apr 14

****Missy**** says...

ktsmom99 wrote:
If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawlI was put out of that club because I retaliated after a committee member hit me!! I was barred and no action was taken against the committee member. The committee at the vlub do not know what they are doing which makes the job of the barstaff harder than ever. There are fracas in the club they r just played down and kept quiet.
[quote][p][bold]ktsmom99[/bold] wrote: If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawlI was put out of that club because I retaliated after a committee member hit me!! I was barred and no action was taken against the committee member. The committee at the vlub do not know what they are doing which makes the job of the barstaff harder than ever. There are fracas in the club they r just played down and kept quiet. ****Missy****
  • Score: -3

3:09pm Mon 28 Apr 14

****Missy**** says...

ktsmom99 wrote:
If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawlI was put out of that club because I retaliated after a committee member hit me!! I was barred and no action was taken against the committee member. The committee at the vlub do not know what they are doing which makes the job of the barstaff harder than ever. There are fracas in the club they r just played down and kept quiet.
[quote][p][bold]ktsmom99[/bold] wrote: If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawlI was put out of that club because I retaliated after a committee member hit me!! I was barred and no action was taken against the committee member. The committee at the vlub do not know what they are doing which makes the job of the barstaff harder than ever. There are fracas in the club they r just played down and kept quiet. ****Missy****
  • Score: -3

4:53pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Outside of the Box says...

****Missy**** wrote:
ktsmom99 wrote:
If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawlI was put out of that club because I retaliated after a committee member hit me!! I was barred and no action was taken against the committee member. The committee at the vlub do not know what they are doing which makes the job of the barstaff harder than ever. There are fracas in the club they r just played down and kept quiet.What?
[quote][p][bold]****Missy****[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ktsmom99[/bold] wrote: If this happened in january why is it being reported now? Like it says the people fighting were not members of the club so why is the club being slated for it. I've been a member for yrs and it's a great place to take kids because it is members only. The club cannot be held responsible for non-members starting fights. 4 people were fighting so it's hardly a "mass brawlI was put out of that club because I retaliated after a committee member hit me!! I was barred and no action was taken against the committee member. The committee at the vlub do not know what they are doing which makes the job of the barstaff harder than ever. There are fracas in the club they r just played down and kept quiet.[/p][/quote]What? Outside of the Box
  • Score: -4

5:06pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Sooz1988 says...

Keeping it Classy i see
Keeping it Classy i see Sooz1988
  • Score: 6

5:34pm Mon 28 Apr 14

kiddynamite says...

have you ever been in this place? Its a absolute toilet!!!!!
have you ever been in this place? Its a absolute toilet!!!!! kiddynamite
  • Score: 11

5:41pm Mon 28 Apr 14

The Mad Dog says...

To all those who are asking 'it happened in January, why is it being reported now? Try reading the whole article, not just the headline.

ps James Franklin (Political Reporter)
".... in the wake of the funeral wake...." Buy yourself a Thesaurus, please!
To all those who are asking 'it happened in January, why is it being reported now? Try reading the whole article, not just the headline. ps James Franklin (Political Reporter) ".... in the wake of the funeral wake...." Buy yourself a Thesaurus, please! The Mad Dog
  • Score: 0

5:46pm Mon 28 Apr 14

David Icke says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off.
As anyone who reads this knows, You really are a penis.
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off.[/p][/quote]As anyone who reads this knows, You really are a penis. David Icke
  • Score: -9

7:00pm Mon 28 Apr 14

amelia75 says...

Haha its a shithole always has been always will be. dont expect anything other then this really.
Haha its a shithole always has been always will be. dont expect anything other then this really. amelia75
  • Score: -2

7:30pm Mon 28 Apr 14

MisterGrimsdale says...

David Icke wrote:
The Wickham Man wrote:
As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off.
As anyone who reads this knows, You really are a penis.
As anyone who reads this knows, you've never heard of J.P. Donleavy - though you still didn't have the sense to keep quiet about it.
[quote][p][bold]David Icke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off.[/p][/quote]As anyone who reads this knows, You really are a penis.[/p][/quote]As anyone who reads this knows, you've never heard of J.P. Donleavy - though you still didn't have the sense to keep quiet about it. MisterGrimsdale
  • Score: 11

7:41pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Huey says...

Ahhhhh what a place
Ahhhhh what a place Huey
  • Score: -20

8:54pm Mon 28 Apr 14

florence37 says...

weall8leedscum wrote:
florence37 wrote:
This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say,
Idiot.
No it's idiots who frequent this dump. Full of low lifes and degenerates. What sort of parent would take children to that dump??!
[quote][p][bold]weall8leedscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florence37[/bold] wrote: This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say,[/p][/quote]Idiot.[/p][/quote]No it's idiots who frequent this dump. Full of low lifes and degenerates. What sort of parent would take children to that dump??! florence37
  • Score: 1

9:00pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Huey says...

Scum on scum attack
Scum on scum attack Huey
  • Score: -12

10:26pm Mon 28 Apr 14

IronLady2010 says...

Never mind the venue, this was a wake. How sick!
Never mind the venue, this was a wake. How sick! IronLady2010
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Mon 28 Apr 14

weall8leedscum says...

florence37 wrote:
weall8leedscum wrote:
florence37 wrote:
This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say,
Idiot.
No it's idiots who frequent this dump. Full of low lifes and degenerates. What sort of parent would take children to that dump??!
IDIOT !
[quote][p][bold]florence37[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]weall8leedscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]florence37[/bold] wrote: This is where all the skanks of Woolston and Weston spend their weekends. Leave em to it I say,[/p][/quote]Idiot.[/p][/quote]No it's idiots who frequent this dump. Full of low lifes and degenerates. What sort of parent would take children to that dump??![/p][/quote]IDIOT ! weall8leedscum
  • Score: -3

8:11am Tue 29 Apr 14

rudolph_hucker says...

I think it's funny. How the other half live and all that.
I think it's funny. How the other half live and all that. rudolph_hucker
  • Score: -1

5:21pm Tue 29 Apr 14

paddlebunny2014 says...

up to about 10 years ago (maybe more), it used to be a really nice family pub for local working men (CIU affiliated). I dispare to this what it is like now. The last time I was there are October 2010 at my mothers wake. Then the club was still as good as I remembered. People putting 'funny' comments on here you should be ashamed. not all pubs are frequented by degernerates/low lifes or as one of you put the scum of scum, or is that the pubs that you go to!
up to about 10 years ago (maybe more), it used to be a really nice family pub for local working men (CIU affiliated). I dispare to this what it is like now. The last time I was there are October 2010 at my mothers wake. Then the club was still as good as I remembered. People putting 'funny' comments on here you should be ashamed. not all pubs are frequented by degernerates/low lifes or as one of you put the scum of scum, or is that the pubs that you go to! paddlebunny2014
  • Score: 0

5:50pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Stale News come on you Echo pen pushers get out and about!
Stale News come on you Echo pen pushers get out and about! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Wed 30 Apr 14

From the sidelines says...

rudolph_hucker wrote:
I think it's funny. How the other half live and all that.
The evidence suggests that some people see Shameless as an example, not a satire.
[quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: I think it's funny. How the other half live and all that.[/p][/quote]The evidence suggests that some people see Shameless as an example, not a satire. From the sidelines
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Thu 8 May 14

saintmicky says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off.
AH! Spoken like the 'gingerman' himself
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: As anyone who has read JP Donleavy knows, you can't have a good wake without a mass brawl. Tables chairs and fists all flying, screams, heads cracked, and copious drink having been taken..... the coffin smashed to pieces on the floor, and occasional glimpses of the deceased still in his best suit unwittingly caught up in the heaving melee of arms and legs. Ah it's what he would have wanted - the bhoys giving him a good send off.[/p][/quote]AH! Spoken like the 'gingerman' himself saintmicky
  • Score: 0

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