Seven shops fail Hampshire Police test purchases

Daily Echo: Police crack down on shops selling alcohol to children Police crack down on shops selling alcohol to children

HAMPSHIRE Police has cracked down on seven shops for selling alcohol to children.

Test purchase operations were conducted at 31 premises using children aged 16 and 17 years old.

Seven premises in Portsmouth failed and are listed as follows:

  • New Kwiki Mart, Elm Grove,
  • New Kwiki Mart, Albert Road,
  • Tesco Metro, Albert Road,
  • Nisa, Clarendon Road,
  • Nisa, Fratton Road,
  • Maya store, Fratton Road,
  • Red Kwiki Mart, Fratton Road.

All staff who served the alchol were issued with a £90 fixed penalty notice and Portsmouth District licensing team and Trading Standards will now work with the premises to improve their training and procedures.

Sgt Stuart Snow said: “The aim of test purchase operations is to identify those premises which serve alcohol to children and then deal effectively with the failing stores through engagement and education. Alcohol in the hands of children can lead to anti-social behaviour and other criminal activity.

“We will continue to conduct test purchase operations to ensure that off-licenses comply with the law.”

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4:32pm Wed 11 Jun 14

From the sidelines says...

Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.
Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment. From the sidelines
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5:39pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

From the sidelines wrote:
Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.
So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.[/p][/quote]So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol? Inform Al
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7:17pm Wed 11 Jun 14

adams74 says...

all pi55heads from the age of 3 in pompey anyway so no real big problem tbh
all pi55heads from the age of 3 in pompey anyway so no real big problem tbh adams74
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10:00am Thu 12 Jun 14

camerajuan says...

Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.
So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?
The law is already in place. The kids know about it. The shops know about it. It's up to both of them to obey the law.

It is entrapment however it's a very commonly used technique and shop owners should just be vigilant if they don't want fined. Asking for ID is not being cheeky or disrespectful. Its about protecting your licence and keeping under agers from buying alcohol.

I've been a teenager and I know how easy it is to get alcohol from the right shops. This is still true today.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.[/p][/quote]So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?[/p][/quote]The law is already in place. The kids know about it. The shops know about it. It's up to both of them to obey the law. It is entrapment however it's a very commonly used technique and shop owners should just be vigilant if they don't want fined. Asking for ID is not being cheeky or disrespectful. Its about protecting your licence and keeping under agers from buying alcohol. I've been a teenager and I know how easy it is to get alcohol from the right shops. This is still true today. camerajuan
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10:38am Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.
So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?
Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.[/p][/quote]So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?[/p][/quote]Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff. Dai Rear
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12:29pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.
So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?
Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff.
Traditionally this ex Met plod used to get 'no replies' when asking that question. I wish they had thought of test purchasing in those days it may have stopped a lot of bother, especially for those that went on to become alcoholics.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.[/p][/quote]So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?[/p][/quote]Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff.[/p][/quote]Traditionally this ex Met plod used to get 'no replies' when asking that question. I wish they had thought of test purchasing in those days it may have stopped a lot of bother, especially for those that went on to become alcoholics. Inform Al
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12:34pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.
So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?
Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff.
Traditionally this ex Met plod used to get 'no replies' when asking that question. I wish they had thought of test purchasing in those days it may have stopped a lot of bother, especially for those that went on to become alcoholics.
Provincial constabularies got more co-operation Al, because , by the 90's (I don't know the state of play now) the Met had become as abrasive as NYPD and no, people didn't want to do business with them..
I tend to the view that an alcoholic is born not made so I'd not share your view on that aspect.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.[/p][/quote]So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?[/p][/quote]Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff.[/p][/quote]Traditionally this ex Met plod used to get 'no replies' when asking that question. I wish they had thought of test purchasing in those days it may have stopped a lot of bother, especially for those that went on to become alcoholics.[/p][/quote]Provincial constabularies got more co-operation Al, because , by the 90's (I don't know the state of play now) the Met had become as abrasive as NYPD and no, people didn't want to do business with them.. I tend to the view that an alcoholic is born not made so I'd not share your view on that aspect. Dai Rear
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12:59pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.
So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?
Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff.
Traditionally this ex Met plod used to get 'no replies' when asking that question. I wish they had thought of test purchasing in those days it may have stopped a lot of bother, especially for those that went on to become alcoholics.
Provincial constabularies got more co-operation Al, because , by the 90's (I don't know the state of play now) the Met had become as abrasive as NYPD and no, people didn't want to do business with them..
I tend to the view that an alcoholic is born not made so I'd not share your view on that aspect.
About ten percent of us are liable to become alcoholic, but like cannabis induced paranoid schizophrenia, the younger you start the more liable you are to be affected. The Met, or any other UK police service, are only considered to be abrasive by those who have reason to be scared of them. Most coppers still join to try to do a service to the community. This is the reason I left as seeing paedophiles and the like out on the streets again too soon after putting them away made me realise I was not able to properly help the community. So I left and became a paratrooper.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: Test Purchase Operations = Entrapment.[/p][/quote]So how would you suggest the police do their duty of stopping kids from purchasing alcohol?[/p][/quote]Traditionally police ask 13 and 14 year olds whom they find intoxicated where they got the booze. If the answer is "I bought it" they seek the support of the parent (frequently forthcoming) to prosecute. It seems less tacky to do that than use a Trojan Horse doesn't it? And you're also then acting where an identifiable problem exists. I suspect that, like you Al, and me, most youngsters get an older brother or sister to do their shopping anyway. In the great scheme of things the police shouldn't devote too much resource to this kind of stuff.[/p][/quote]Traditionally this ex Met plod used to get 'no replies' when asking that question. I wish they had thought of test purchasing in those days it may have stopped a lot of bother, especially for those that went on to become alcoholics.[/p][/quote]Provincial constabularies got more co-operation Al, because , by the 90's (I don't know the state of play now) the Met had become as abrasive as NYPD and no, people didn't want to do business with them.. I tend to the view that an alcoholic is born not made so I'd not share your view on that aspect.[/p][/quote]About ten percent of us are liable to become alcoholic, but like cannabis induced paranoid schizophrenia, the younger you start the more liable you are to be affected. The Met, or any other UK police service, are only considered to be abrasive by those who have reason to be scared of them. Most coppers still join to try to do a service to the community. This is the reason I left as seeing paedophiles and the like out on the streets again too soon after putting them away made me realise I was not able to properly help the community. So I left and became a paratrooper. Inform Al
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1:22pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning.
Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning. Dai Rear
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1:45pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning.
With about 25,000 copperes in London I would be surprised if there were not a few idiots amongst them. I myself had two run ins with black people. The first was following a mini with tinted windows, rare in those days, at about 2 am when I realised the driver was lost so I pulled him over. The driver was black and sported the first set of dreadlocks I had ever seen, and immediately went on a rant about only pulling him because he was black. Fact one, I had no idea who was driving because of the tinted windows, or that he had two companions in the car. Fact two, I had actually stopped him to help him as I thought from the route he had been driving that he was lost. Fact three, the terrific, if that's the right word, smell of cannabis coming from the car caused me to call for assistance and they were arrested. Fact four, at about 4am the cars owner, a well known actress living in Hammersmith came to collect her car. She too accused me of being racist, I pointed out that due to the tinted rear windows I had no idea who was in the car and she then shut up. The second, just a few weeks later was a black chap driving a Hillman Minx with a stop light out, as he could be stopped for breathalyser with this defect I stopped him to make him aware. He to went on one, so got done for defective light. I too am only human.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning.[/p][/quote]With about 25,000 copperes in London I would be surprised if there were not a few idiots amongst them. I myself had two run ins with black people. The first was following a mini with tinted windows, rare in those days, at about 2 am when I realised the driver was lost so I pulled him over. The driver was black and sported the first set of dreadlocks I had ever seen, and immediately went on a rant about only pulling him because he was black. Fact one, I had no idea who was driving because of the tinted windows, or that he had two companions in the car. Fact two, I had actually stopped him to help him as I thought from the route he had been driving that he was lost. Fact three, the terrific, if that's the right word, smell of cannabis coming from the car caused me to call for assistance and they were arrested. Fact four, at about 4am the cars owner, a well known actress living in Hammersmith came to collect her car. She too accused me of being racist, I pointed out that due to the tinted rear windows I had no idea who was in the car and she then shut up. The second, just a few weeks later was a black chap driving a Hillman Minx with a stop light out, as he could be stopped for breathalyser with this defect I stopped him to make him aware. He to went on one, so got done for defective light. I too am only human. Inform Al
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1:55pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Al, I'm guessing you know that PACE and the CPS were introduced, amongst other reasons, because of a perception of problems in the Met. Be that as it may, if you want to get booze when you're 15 or 16 you probably will, and I remain persuaded that once again we are seeing tokenism.
Al, I'm guessing you know that PACE and the CPS were introduced, amongst other reasons, because of a perception of problems in the Met. Be that as it may, if you want to get booze when you're 15 or 16 you probably will, and I remain persuaded that once again we are seeing tokenism. Dai Rear
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2:27pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Zexagon says...

Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning.
With about 25,000 copperes in London I would be surprised if there were not a few idiots amongst them. I myself had two run ins with black people. The first was following a mini with tinted windows, rare in those days, at about 2 am when I realised the driver was lost so I pulled him over. The driver was black and sported the first set of dreadlocks I had ever seen, and immediately went on a rant about only pulling him because he was black. Fact one, I had no idea who was driving because of the tinted windows, or that he had two companions in the car. Fact two, I had actually stopped him to help him as I thought from the route he had been driving that he was lost. Fact three, the terrific, if that's the right word, smell of cannabis coming from the car caused me to call for assistance and they were arrested. Fact four, at about 4am the cars owner, a well known actress living in Hammersmith came to collect her car. She too accused me of being racist, I pointed out that due to the tinted rear windows I had no idea who was in the car and she then shut up. The second, just a few weeks later was a black chap driving a Hillman Minx with a stop light out, as he could be stopped for breathalyser with this defect I stopped him to make him aware. He to went on one, so got done for defective light. I too am only human.
Come on Al,who was the actress?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning.[/p][/quote]With about 25,000 copperes in London I would be surprised if there were not a few idiots amongst them. I myself had two run ins with black people. The first was following a mini with tinted windows, rare in those days, at about 2 am when I realised the driver was lost so I pulled him over. The driver was black and sported the first set of dreadlocks I had ever seen, and immediately went on a rant about only pulling him because he was black. Fact one, I had no idea who was driving because of the tinted windows, or that he had two companions in the car. Fact two, I had actually stopped him to help him as I thought from the route he had been driving that he was lost. Fact three, the terrific, if that's the right word, smell of cannabis coming from the car caused me to call for assistance and they were arrested. Fact four, at about 4am the cars owner, a well known actress living in Hammersmith came to collect her car. She too accused me of being racist, I pointed out that due to the tinted rear windows I had no idea who was in the car and she then shut up. The second, just a few weeks later was a black chap driving a Hillman Minx with a stop light out, as he could be stopped for breathalyser with this defect I stopped him to make him aware. He to went on one, so got done for defective light. I too am only human.[/p][/quote]Come on Al,who was the actress? Zexagon
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2:40pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Come on Al,who was the actress?
Dame Edith Evans.
Come on Al,who was the actress? Dame Edith Evans. Dai Rear
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6:32pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Inform Al says...

Zexagon wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning.
With about 25,000 copperes in London I would be surprised if there were not a few idiots amongst them. I myself had two run ins with black people. The first was following a mini with tinted windows, rare in those days, at about 2 am when I realised the driver was lost so I pulled him over. The driver was black and sported the first set of dreadlocks I had ever seen, and immediately went on a rant about only pulling him because he was black. Fact one, I had no idea who was driving because of the tinted windows, or that he had two companions in the car. Fact two, I had actually stopped him to help him as I thought from the route he had been driving that he was lost. Fact three, the terrific, if that's the right word, smell of cannabis coming from the car caused me to call for assistance and they were arrested. Fact four, at about 4am the cars owner, a well known actress living in Hammersmith came to collect her car. She too accused me of being racist, I pointed out that due to the tinted rear windows I had no idea who was in the car and she then shut up. The second, just a few weeks later was a black chap driving a Hillman Minx with a stop light out, as he could be stopped for breathalyser with this defect I stopped him to make him aware. He to went on one, so got done for defective light. I too am only human.
Come on Al,who was the actress?
Vanessa Redgrave.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: Well I guess if you were an African in North London circa 1988 you had "reason to be scared of them" and , having seen in action a sergeant who proudly announced he had 20 years of service as he howled in the face of an African (driving without due care) covering him in spittle I guess that man had "reason to be scared" but I'm betting that's not what you're meaning.[/p][/quote]With about 25,000 copperes in London I would be surprised if there were not a few idiots amongst them. I myself had two run ins with black people. The first was following a mini with tinted windows, rare in those days, at about 2 am when I realised the driver was lost so I pulled him over. The driver was black and sported the first set of dreadlocks I had ever seen, and immediately went on a rant about only pulling him because he was black. Fact one, I had no idea who was driving because of the tinted windows, or that he had two companions in the car. Fact two, I had actually stopped him to help him as I thought from the route he had been driving that he was lost. Fact three, the terrific, if that's the right word, smell of cannabis coming from the car caused me to call for assistance and they were arrested. Fact four, at about 4am the cars owner, a well known actress living in Hammersmith came to collect her car. She too accused me of being racist, I pointed out that due to the tinted rear windows I had no idea who was in the car and she then shut up. The second, just a few weeks later was a black chap driving a Hillman Minx with a stop light out, as he could be stopped for breathalyser with this defect I stopped him to make him aware. He to went on one, so got done for defective light. I too am only human.[/p][/quote]Come on Al,who was the actress?[/p][/quote]Vanessa Redgrave. Inform Al
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6:42pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Come on Al,who was the actress?
Vanessa Redgrave
And you were rac-ist cos she's a Red?
Come on Al,who was the actress? Vanessa Redgrave And you were rac-ist cos she's a Red? Dai Rear
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