Campaigners fear Associated British Ports poised to submit takeover bid of Marchwood Military Port.

Daily Echo: Marchwood Military Base Marchwood Military Base

CAMPAIGNERS fear that Associated British Ports is poised to submit a successful bid to take over one of Hampshire's biggest military bases.

They spoke out after representatives from the Ministry of Defence met councillors at a behind-closed-doors session today to discuss the future of Marchwood Military Port.

The 330-acre facility is set to be sold or leased by the MoD as part of a nationwide bid to raise £500m.

Liverpool-based Peel Ports is also understood to be interested in the site, but the MoD is still refusing to name any of the potential bidders.

Speaking after the private, invitation-only meeting Marchwood county councillor David Harrison said: “The MoD is planning to lease part of the centre to a commercial organisation, which will almost certainly be ABP.

“My fear is that a bid will be accepted from ABP, giving them a foothold on the Waterside.

“It will have a very large number of negative impacts, including the possibility of large cranes, a noise nuisance and other environmental concerns.”

An MoD spokesman said: “The sale of Marchwood was announced as part of the last Strategic Defence and Security Review in 2010.

“Engagement with the market has begun with a formal invitation to industry to express an interest on May 16.

“Following the evaluation of responses, we hope to choose a shortlist next month. Subject to value for money being demonstrated, we aim to complete the transaction in early 2015.”

As reported in the Daily Echo, a total of 25 parties have expressed an interest in the port.

ABP chiefs are keen to use it as a car storage facility, creating up to 400 jobs.

The scheme would be similar to the multi-storey car compounds that already exist at Southampton Docks.

Campaigners have raised concerns over ABP's plans, saying they could lead to traffic problems in and around the Marchwood area.

But ABP has denied any interest in building a container terminal - the main fear of councillors and residents.

An ABP spokesman was unavailable for comment.

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4:00pm Wed 18 Jun 14

SouthamptonBoy65 says...

If it is car storage they wont need high cranes
If it is car storage they wont need high cranes SouthamptonBoy65
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4:24pm Wed 18 Jun 14

loosehead says...

So the residents don't want a Port where a Port is? Will PEEL PORTS stop at Marchwood? Will ABP say enough's enough we're quitting & selling to Peel Ports?
ABP has already said the majority of cars will be transported into the port by Train & transported out of the port by train so where's the extra traffic coming from?
Watersiders were complaining about the decision not to up grade the rail way line yet ABP would have to do this & now motorists are saying we don't want extra trains because of the level crossing?
So what ever gets built there or Dibden will have complaints.Housing at Dibden ( blocks of flats) will increase car traffic which they say the roads can't handle any industry built at either sites will see heavy traffic (lorries) using the roads.
What will it mean for the locals if Peel ports take over? will they spend good money to leave it idle just to stop ABP getting it?
How will that create jobs? or will they seek to expand further out into the waterside?
So the residents don't want a Port where a Port is? Will PEEL PORTS stop at Marchwood? Will ABP say enough's enough we're quitting & selling to Peel Ports? ABP has already said the majority of cars will be transported into the port by Train & transported out of the port by train so where's the extra traffic coming from? Watersiders were complaining about the decision not to up grade the rail way line yet ABP would have to do this & now motorists are saying we don't want extra trains because of the level crossing? So what ever gets built there or Dibden will have complaints.Housing at Dibden ( blocks of flats) will increase car traffic which they say the roads can't handle any industry built at either sites will see heavy traffic (lorries) using the roads. What will it mean for the locals if Peel ports take over? will they spend good money to leave it idle just to stop ABP getting it? How will that create jobs? or will they seek to expand further out into the waterside? loosehead
  • Score: -1

7:05pm Wed 18 Jun 14

search for truth says...

I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution. search for truth
  • Score: -8

7:18pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Lone Ranger. says...

search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
WUM
[quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]WUM Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 1

7:36pm Wed 18 Jun 14

search for truth says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
WUM
I suggested this some months ago when the MoD first talked about selling it off. I am not a wind up merchant ( obviously Peel Ports are interested, or are they wind up merchants too ).
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]WUM[/p][/quote]I suggested this some months ago when the MoD first talked about selling it off. I am not a wind up merchant ( obviously Peel Ports are interested, or are they wind up merchants too ). search for truth
  • Score: -4

7:55pm Wed 18 Jun 14

forest hump says...

search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
[quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution? forest hump
  • Score: 1

8:32pm Wed 18 Jun 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
competion
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution?[/p][/quote]competion southy
  • Score: -2

8:56pm Wed 18 Jun 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
competion
Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that?
If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it.
What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port?
When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed?
Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed?
Would Hythe Marina been built?
No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution?[/p][/quote]competion[/p][/quote]Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that? If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it. What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port? When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed? Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed? Would Hythe Marina been built? No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port . loosehead
  • Score: 0

9:35pm Wed 18 Jun 14

search for truth says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
competion
Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that?
If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it.
What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port?
When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed?
Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed?
Would Hythe Marina been built?
No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .
Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure.

There is no need to get carried away.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution?[/p][/quote]competion[/p][/quote]Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that? If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it. What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port? When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed? Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed? Would Hythe Marina been built? No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .[/p][/quote]Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure. There is no need to get carried away. search for truth
  • Score: -2

11:13pm Wed 18 Jun 14

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
competion
Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that?
If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it.
What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port?
When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed?
Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed?
Would Hythe Marina been built?
No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .
ABP don't need to expand, it as a number of ports around the country that it can use, be very careful Loose because once the water front as gone you never get it back, and you will end up with a dead smelly river that will turn people away from the area.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution?[/p][/quote]competion[/p][/quote]Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that? If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it. What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port? When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed? Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed? Would Hythe Marina been built? No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .[/p][/quote]ABP don't need to expand, it as a number of ports around the country that it can use, be very careful Loose because once the water front as gone you never get it back, and you will end up with a dead smelly river that will turn people away from the area. southy
  • Score: 2

6:16am Thu 19 Jun 14

loosehead says...

search for truth wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
competion
Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that?
If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it.
What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port?
When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed?
Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed?
Would Hythe Marina been built?
No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .
Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure.

There is no need to get carried away.
If it's the only way NIMBY's can see the consequences of their actions there is the need.
According to Southy (TUSC candidate or was) then we might as well shut all ports besides four & those four don't include Southampton & Liverpool.
My wife is Thai & she finds it hilarious down here how people object to any form of development yet then complain about the lack of jobs.
They seem to think jobs are to be done not in their back yard?
[quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution?[/p][/quote]competion[/p][/quote]Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that? If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it. What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port? When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed? Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed? Would Hythe Marina been built? No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .[/p][/quote]Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure. There is no need to get carried away.[/p][/quote]If it's the only way NIMBY's can see the consequences of their actions there is the need. According to Southy (TUSC candidate or was) then we might as well shut all ports besides four & those four don't include Southampton & Liverpool. My wife is Thai & she finds it hilarious down here how people object to any form of development yet then complain about the lack of jobs. They seem to think jobs are to be done not in their back yard? loosehead
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Thu 19 Jun 14

The Wickham Man says...

At this point we need the Man who says Hmm to give us one of his pithy insightful comments.
At this point we need the Man who says Hmm to give us one of his pithy insightful comments. The Wickham Man
  • Score: -1

4:46pm Thu 19 Jun 14

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
search for truth wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
competion
Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that?
If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it.
What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port?
When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed?
Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed?
Would Hythe Marina been built?
No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .
Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure.

There is no need to get carried away.
If it's the only way NIMBY's can see the consequences of their actions there is the need.
According to Southy (TUSC candidate or was) then we might as well shut all ports besides four & those four don't include Southampton & Liverpool.
My wife is Thai & she finds it hilarious down here how people object to any form of development yet then complain about the lack of jobs.
They seem to think jobs are to be done not in their back yard?
Loose you and your Thai wife do not understand how many jobs there are in the river you had no dealing with them, even low the fishing indusrty on the River Test as been knock for six, there is still those that work the river and with that comes along jobs ashore like your shell fish industarty that employs more people than there are working in the Container port, you remove the grounds where this marine life is by dredging then all you will end up with is a dead river with no life in it, most of the marine life happens between high water springs and low water springs go below that level and marine life starts to thing out as less light gets though as the water gets deeper, once a river gets to a certain state the first fish you see disapear is your migratory fish like Salmon, Sea Trout and Grayling, the Grayling on the river test have all ready gone because of poluted waters down by the docks, next to go will be salmon and then Sea Trout these fish feed on crabs, shrimps, prawns, lobsters (squaut) with in the tidal range and a few feet below that level.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution?[/p][/quote]competion[/p][/quote]Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that? If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it. What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port? When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed? Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed? Would Hythe Marina been built? No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .[/p][/quote]Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure. There is no need to get carried away.[/p][/quote]If it's the only way NIMBY's can see the consequences of their actions there is the need. According to Southy (TUSC candidate or was) then we might as well shut all ports besides four & those four don't include Southampton & Liverpool. My wife is Thai & she finds it hilarious down here how people object to any form of development yet then complain about the lack of jobs. They seem to think jobs are to be done not in their back yard?[/p][/quote]Loose you and your Thai wife do not understand how many jobs there are in the river you had no dealing with them, even low the fishing indusrty on the River Test as been knock for six, there is still those that work the river and with that comes along jobs ashore like your shell fish industarty that employs more people than there are working in the Container port, you remove the grounds where this marine life is by dredging then all you will end up with is a dead river with no life in it, most of the marine life happens between high water springs and low water springs go below that level and marine life starts to thing out as less light gets though as the water gets deeper, once a river gets to a certain state the first fish you see disapear is your migratory fish like Salmon, Sea Trout and Grayling, the Grayling on the river test have all ready gone because of poluted waters down by the docks, next to go will be salmon and then Sea Trout these fish feed on crabs, shrimps, prawns, lobsters (squaut) with in the tidal range and a few feet below that level. southy
  • Score: -1

12:54pm Mon 23 Jun 14

WoolstonSean says...

Please please go away Southy none of us on here can stand you anymore your repetitive comments on how much you think you know everything is annoying so please throw your computer away so your not able to comment any more or better still move!
Please please go away Southy none of us on here can stand you anymore your repetitive comments on how much you think you know everything is annoying so please throw your computer away so your not able to comment any more or better still move! WoolstonSean
  • Score: 0

5:16pm Mon 23 Jun 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
search for truth wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
search for truth wrote:
I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.
Why is that the best solution?
competion
Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that?
If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it.
What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port?
When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed?
Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed?
Would Hythe Marina been built?
No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .
Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure.

There is no need to get carried away.
If it's the only way NIMBY's can see the consequences of their actions there is the need.
According to Southy (TUSC candidate or was) then we might as well shut all ports besides four & those four don't include Southampton & Liverpool.
My wife is Thai & she finds it hilarious down here how people object to any form of development yet then complain about the lack of jobs.
They seem to think jobs are to be done not in their back yard?
Loose you and your Thai wife do not understand how many jobs there are in the river you had no dealing with them, even low the fishing indusrty on the River Test as been knock for six, there is still those that work the river and with that comes along jobs ashore like your shell fish industarty that employs more people than there are working in the Container port, you remove the grounds where this marine life is by dredging then all you will end up with is a dead river with no life in it, most of the marine life happens between high water springs and low water springs go below that level and marine life starts to thing out as less light gets though as the water gets deeper, once a river gets to a certain state the first fish you see disapear is your migratory fish like Salmon, Sea Trout and Grayling, the Grayling on the river test have all ready gone because of poluted waters down by the docks, next to go will be salmon and then Sea Trout these fish feed on crabs, shrimps, prawns, lobsters (squaut) with in the tidal range and a few feet below that level.
So where we you when Millbrook point vanished? Southy don't tell me how many jobs have vanished in the past or that my wife & I don't know.
I know the EU with the backing of a Labour government cost this city a thousand jobs(good pay) where we you protesting then?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for truth[/bold] wrote: I think Peel Ports who own the Port of Liverpool , taking over this site would be the best solution.[/p][/quote]Why is that the best solution?[/p][/quote]competion[/p][/quote]Southy this is to stifle competition or can't you or any of the ABP objectors see that? If Peel Ports take over it they only have to have a military port functioning so stopping ABP expanding to meet growth meaning companies will go else where presumably Liverpool which has the extra room to accommodate extra volume with the locals all for Port expansion & not a load of NIMBY's against it. What then happens if too much trade leaves this port ? when will it no longer be viable to run as a port? When Cunard move when this area becomes a jobs ghost town? when all the young of the waterside who work in the offices in Southampton have a choice move to Liverpool or be unemployed? Many of the estates on the waterside were built because of Fawley & Southampton Docks & the city of Southampton take away these places of work would these houses had been needed? Would Hythe Marina been built? No matter what they say the Waterside residents need a thriving Southampton as much if not more than ABP needs to expand on reclaimed land & a readily built port .[/p][/quote]Careful, cam down and watch your blood pressure. There is no need to get carried away.[/p][/quote]If it's the only way NIMBY's can see the consequences of their actions there is the need. According to Southy (TUSC candidate or was) then we might as well shut all ports besides four & those four don't include Southampton & Liverpool. My wife is Thai & she finds it hilarious down here how people object to any form of development yet then complain about the lack of jobs. They seem to think jobs are to be done not in their back yard?[/p][/quote]Loose you and your Thai wife do not understand how many jobs there are in the river you had no dealing with them, even low the fishing indusrty on the River Test as been knock for six, there is still those that work the river and with that comes along jobs ashore like your shell fish industarty that employs more people than there are working in the Container port, you remove the grounds where this marine life is by dredging then all you will end up with is a dead river with no life in it, most of the marine life happens between high water springs and low water springs go below that level and marine life starts to thing out as less light gets though as the water gets deeper, once a river gets to a certain state the first fish you see disapear is your migratory fish like Salmon, Sea Trout and Grayling, the Grayling on the river test have all ready gone because of poluted waters down by the docks, next to go will be salmon and then Sea Trout these fish feed on crabs, shrimps, prawns, lobsters (squaut) with in the tidal range and a few feet below that level.[/p][/quote]So where we you when Millbrook point vanished? Southy don't tell me how many jobs have vanished in the past or that my wife & I don't know. I know the EU with the backing of a Labour government cost this city a thousand jobs(good pay) where we you protesting then? loosehead
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