Planners to decide plans for Watermark WestQuay scheme in Southampton

D-Day for £70 million city centre leisure complex in Southampton

D-Day for £70 million city centre leisure complex in Southampton

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THE final plans for the £70m rejuvenation of a derelict site in Southampton city centre are set to go before planners.

City councillors will decide the fate of the plans for the Watermark WestQuay site at a meeting next week.

Daily Echo:

As previously reported, developer Hammerson already has planning permission for a massive leisure complex next to the WestQuay Shopping Centre.

The firm, alongside architects ACME, handed in detailed proposals earlier this year fine-tuning some of the design elements of the complex.

Daily Echo:

The development is centred on a |luxury ten-screen cinema and a bowling alley.

There will be a row of posh eateries – possibly including national names such as Jamie Oliver’s chain Jamie’s, Mexican chain Wahaca and gourmet burger joints Byron and Five Guys – and bars.

Daily Echo:

The leisure elements of the development will tower over a new piazza running alongside the city’s medieval walls and water features designed to ebb and flow like the tide.

Hammerson’s plans, which focus on architectural details, proposed materials and landscaping design will go before the city council’s planning committee at a meeting on Tuesday.

Daily Echo:

Bosses at Southampton City Council see the development as an important part of plans to regenerate the city centre, which includes the proposed Royal Pier development.

The committee has been recommended to approve the plans by officers at the meeting.

And if they get the green light the firm says construction could start at the end of the year, with completion likely by the end of 2016.

Daily Echo:

In the meantime, Hammerson is also likely to hand in detailed plans for a second phase of the development.

That would feature a hotel, retail and office space, an underground car park and a residential tower block that could be up to 27 storeys high.

Hammerson says 500 construction jobs could be created by the scheme, along with a further 500 permanent positions when the development opens.

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7:08am Sun 22 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry? loosehead
  • Score: 17

7:45am Sun 22 Jun 14

excusemoi says...

I agree with the bus station. At the moment the buses are scattered here there and everywhere. And even more eateries? No wonder we're all getting fatter.
I agree with the bus station. At the moment the buses are scattered here there and everywhere. And even more eateries? No wonder we're all getting fatter. excusemoi
  • Score: 8

9:49am Sun 22 Jun 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me. Linesman
  • Score: -5

9:57am Sun 22 Jun 14

willow warbler says...

Let's do this. You only need to go to Gun Wharf to see how much such a development would add to the city. We are missing such an attractive draw for visitors and locals alike.
Let's do this. You only need to go to Gun Wharf to see how much such a development would add to the city. We are missing such an attractive draw for visitors and locals alike. willow warbler
  • Score: 19

9:59am Sun 22 Jun 14

southy says...

Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list
Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list southy
  • Score: -51

10:19am Sun 22 Jun 14

Saint Botley says...

willow warbler wrote:
Let's do this. You only need to go to Gun Wharf to see how much such a development would add to the city. We are missing such an attractive draw for visitors and locals alike.
Absolutely. Great post. The design looks great to me. The council need to make sure that the water features aren't lost along the way though, they are central to this and would really enhance the walls and make for a very attractive area. Might go some way to achieving the 'wow factor' they've been craving.
[quote][p][bold]willow warbler[/bold] wrote: Let's do this. You only need to go to Gun Wharf to see how much such a development would add to the city. We are missing such an attractive draw for visitors and locals alike.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Great post. The design looks great to me. The council need to make sure that the water features aren't lost along the way though, they are central to this and would really enhance the walls and make for a very attractive area. Might go some way to achieving the 'wow factor' they've been craving. Saint Botley
  • Score: 11

10:22am Sun 22 Jun 14

pollthom says...

I don't understand why the council are desperate to kill the old high street. That's exactly what will happen if, or probably when approval is given the nod. Hammersons cannot fill all of their retail units in the shopping centre presently. What we can look forward too, is more empty retail units. Empty offices and another empty residential tower. Meanwhile, all the scum (there's plenty of it) will hang around outside, leaving their rubbish behind. Yes, that will make an attractive proposition for those docking in port!

I wouldn't class the names given above as 'posh eateries'. They're merely fast food chains. I'm sure visitors will want microwaved pasta or burger and fries!
I don't understand why the council are desperate to kill the old high street. That's exactly what will happen if, or probably when approval is given the nod. Hammersons cannot fill all of their retail units in the shopping centre presently. What we can look forward too, is more empty retail units. Empty offices and another empty residential tower. Meanwhile, all the scum (there's plenty of it) will hang around outside, leaving their rubbish behind. Yes, that will make an attractive proposition for those docking in port! I wouldn't class the names given above as 'posh eateries'. They're merely fast food chains. I'm sure visitors will want microwaved pasta or burger and fries! pollthom
  • Score: -4

10:30am Sun 22 Jun 14

kaido says...

Its long overdue.. Remember this is going to be one of the first sights visitors see when they step off a cruise liner. Millions of people. The development needs to act as a gateway to the city, and the city starts at the city walls not above bar which it would be easy to asume currently.
Its long overdue.. Remember this is going to be one of the first sights visitors see when they step off a cruise liner. Millions of people. The development needs to act as a gateway to the city, and the city starts at the city walls not above bar which it would be easy to asume currently. kaido
  • Score: 3

10:33am Sun 22 Jun 14

focus19 says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL focus19
  • Score: 7

10:47am Sun 22 Jun 14

Bagamn says...

kaido wrote:
Its long overdue.. Remember this is going to be one of the first sights visitors see when they step off a cruise liner. Millions of people. The development needs to act as a gateway to the city, and the city starts at the city walls not above bar which it would be easy to asume currently.
You have not taken into consideration that cruise tourists have got on the train and gone home. Once they leave the ship, they don't hang around shopping in Southampton. The mentions of food outlets, what gastronomic eateries they are, jazzed up burger bars with posh prices. We have got cinemas now that people don.t want. Try to break away from the things we have and go for something unique that could be ours. I hate to say it, but Gunwarf Quay is more appealing than West Quay.
[quote][p][bold]kaido[/bold] wrote: Its long overdue.. Remember this is going to be one of the first sights visitors see when they step off a cruise liner. Millions of people. The development needs to act as a gateway to the city, and the city starts at the city walls not above bar which it would be easy to asume currently.[/p][/quote]You have not taken into consideration that cruise tourists have got on the train and gone home. Once they leave the ship, they don't hang around shopping in Southampton. The mentions of food outlets, what gastronomic eateries they are, jazzed up burger bars with posh prices. We have got cinemas now that people don.t want. Try to break away from the things we have and go for something unique that could be ours. I hate to say it, but Gunwarf Quay is more appealing than West Quay. Bagamn
  • Score: -2

11:09am Sun 22 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

willow warbler wrote:
Let's do this. You only need to go to Gun Wharf to see how much such a development would add to the city. We are missing such an attractive draw for visitors and locals alike.
The difference is you can drive to gun wharf so if it is going to happen then a decent park and ride needs to be set up toavoid even more gridlock
[quote][p][bold]willow warbler[/bold] wrote: Let's do this. You only need to go to Gun Wharf to see how much such a development would add to the city. We are missing such an attractive draw for visitors and locals alike.[/p][/quote]The difference is you can drive to gun wharf so if it is going to happen then a decent park and ride needs to be set up toavoid even more gridlock mickey01
  • Score: 0

11:15am Sun 22 Jun 14

mickey01 says...

loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus mickey01
  • Score: 2

11:21am Sun 22 Jun 14

Linesman says...

focus19 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL
I note that mickey01 says that cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus.

That seems a lot more logical.

My betting is that they would get a cab.
[quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL[/p][/quote]I note that mickey01 says that cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus. That seems a lot more logical. My betting is that they would get a cab. Linesman
  • Score: 1

11:27am Sun 22 Jun 14

THEKILLER says...

Another scheme the city does not need, build a new cinema close the present ones down, open more eateries close others down. Open more shops close others down, there is only so much retail the City can support
Another scheme the city does not need, build a new cinema close the present ones down, open more eateries close others down. Open more shops close others down, there is only so much retail the City can support THEKILLER
  • Score: 1

11:44am Sun 22 Jun 14

jen1 says...

Southampton certainly needs to do something, I'm just not sure that this is it. We need to improve the road network and open up some more land by the sea. I remember and how popular that was in the early days, until they killed it off.
Southampton certainly needs to do something, I'm just not sure that this is it. We need to improve the road network and open up some more land by the sea. I remember and how popular that was in the early days, until they killed it off. jen1
  • Score: 7

12:45pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

southy wrote:
Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list
Erm, no. I will settle for the bowling alley and restaurants, rather than Council homes in that area. Yours is a ridiculous post.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list[/p][/quote]Erm, no. I will settle for the bowling alley and restaurants, rather than Council homes in that area. Yours is a ridiculous post. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 13

1:11pm Sun 22 Jun 14

SteveinTotton says...

This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.
This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument. SteveinTotton
  • Score: 10

1:34pm Sun 22 Jun 14

BeyondImagination says...

We coulld do with a multi purpose centre for concerts, exhibitions, conferences etc. Inknow we have the O2 but that has worse acoustics than my bathroom and is too small. The restaurants that are already in Southampton would welcome the extra trade. The city could come alive with a more imaginitive scheme than this.
We coulld do with a multi purpose centre for concerts, exhibitions, conferences etc. Inknow we have the O2 but that has worse acoustics than my bathroom and is too small. The restaurants that are already in Southampton would welcome the extra trade. The city could come alive with a more imaginitive scheme than this. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 7

1:46pm Sun 22 Jun 14

sotonboy84 says...

BeyondImagination wrote:
We coulld do with a multi purpose centre for concerts, exhibitions, conferences etc. Inknow we have the O2 but that has worse acoustics than my bathroom and is too small. The restaurants that are already in Southampton would welcome the extra trade. The city could come alive with a more imaginitive scheme than this.
It's a development focused on developers profits.

Any good for the long term vision of the city comes second.
[quote][p][bold]BeyondImagination[/bold] wrote: We coulld do with a multi purpose centre for concerts, exhibitions, conferences etc. Inknow we have the O2 but that has worse acoustics than my bathroom and is too small. The restaurants that are already in Southampton would welcome the extra trade. The city could come alive with a more imaginitive scheme than this.[/p][/quote]It's a development focused on developers profits. Any good for the long term vision of the city comes second. sotonboy84
  • Score: 3

2:20pm Sun 22 Jun 14

The wickedsaint says...

Why would anyone use a taxi in Southampton?
Why would anyone use a taxi in Southampton? The wickedsaint
  • Score: -2

2:45pm Sun 22 Jun 14

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list
Give your house back to the council & move into a council studio flat?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list[/p][/quote]Give your house back to the council & move into a council studio flat? loosehead
  • Score: 6

2:48pm Sun 22 Jun 14

loosehead says...

mickey01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus
COACH?
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus[/p][/quote]COACH? loosehead
  • Score: -3

2:54pm Sun 22 Jun 14

loosehead says...

I've seen the large crowds sat out side the coach station I've tried to get off the coach with the only pavement blocked.
I've been to Stoke on Trent where the bus & coach stations are one & I remember our old bus station & remember how much extra capacity there was.
I don't expect all cruise ship passengers to board busses but a lot of Waterside & local people do.
Many go to London or the midlands or the North so unless they use the trains they'll use a coach so this spot with the castle walls would be a great place to put a combined bus & coach station.
I've seen the large crowds sat out side the coach station I've tried to get off the coach with the only pavement blocked. I've been to Stoke on Trent where the bus & coach stations are one & I remember our old bus station & remember how much extra capacity there was. I don't expect all cruise ship passengers to board busses but a lot of Waterside & local people do. Many go to London or the midlands or the North so unless they use the trains they'll use a coach so this spot with the castle walls would be a great place to put a combined bus & coach station. loosehead
  • Score: 0

3:01pm Sun 22 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep.
But it was about her broken heart.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep. But it was about her broken heart. loosehead
  • Score: -2

3:17pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep.
But it was about her broken heart.
Oh well! I enjoyed it and thought it was a lovely example of a human relating to an animal. Just sorry your wife did not view it in the same way.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep. But it was about her broken heart.[/p][/quote]Oh well! I enjoyed it and thought it was a lovely example of a human relating to an animal. Just sorry your wife did not view it in the same way. Linesman
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Sun 22 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

A central coach/bus station here would be of better use for everyone. As already pointed out we already have more than enough cinemas and restaurants. There's merit in the homes idea as well. My reasoning for Gunwharf Quays being good is it's waterside location. I don't give a stuff about what cinemas and restaurants are there. Gunwharf is good because it is on the waterfront and close to some actual attractions such as the Spinnaker Tower and the Historic Dockyard. The water features here are good, but it would be like Gunwharf being a 10 and this being about a 2 or a 3. Southampton needs an identity. Portsmouth does this by having the Spinnaker Tower and the Historic Dockyard. I'm sorry, but no amount of Cine De Lux's or chain restaurants or upmarket burger joints will create an identity for Southampton.
A central coach/bus station here would be of better use for everyone. As already pointed out we already have more than enough cinemas and restaurants. There's merit in the homes idea as well. My reasoning for Gunwharf Quays being good is it's waterside location. I don't give a stuff about what cinemas and restaurants are there. Gunwharf is good because it is on the waterfront and close to some actual attractions such as the Spinnaker Tower and the Historic Dockyard. The water features here are good, but it would be like Gunwharf being a 10 and this being about a 2 or a 3. Southampton needs an identity. Portsmouth does this by having the Spinnaker Tower and the Historic Dockyard. I'm sorry, but no amount of Cine De Lux's or chain restaurants or upmarket burger joints will create an identity for Southampton. 03alpe01
  • Score: 2

3:37pm Sun 22 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

Also, why are they reporting it's D-Day for the scheme? Everyone knows it will be unanimously backed and approved.
Also, why are they reporting it's D-Day for the scheme? Everyone knows it will be unanimously backed and approved. 03alpe01
  • Score: 4

4:02pm Sun 22 Jun 14

2010chappy says...

I Like the bus station idea.

Remember the old Hants & Dorset station on the marlands site - that was ideal as it was the centre of town.

For this to happen I see the following to be necessary:

1. The city council rationalise the bus services in Southampton putting groups of routes out to tender - proper targets and criteria to be set - levels of service etc.

2. Route numbers are set by the council - so they do not change every 6 months! And routes to suit what people do - travel between Woolston and neighbouring areas, Sholing, Weston, Thronhill, Bitterne, etc.

3. Site for bus and coach station central. To include a free link to train station, royal pier, and cruise terminals to allowing coach passengers to link easily. Also a free round city centre service.

4. Proper car parking on the periphery of the city well served by free bus service - car parking run by the council to remain reasonably priced and to pay for free city centre service.

5. A permit parking system for those working within the city. This will allow city centre parking to be reduced to a minimum and reducing cars into the city centre.

The key to this is a 5-10 minute regular service from car parks to prevent the need for city centre parking.

An integrated system like this could modernise Southampton making it easier for traffic to access key areas like cruise terminals and train stations. Through traffic would flow better too.
I Like the bus station idea. Remember the old Hants & Dorset station on the marlands site - that was ideal as it was the centre of town. For this to happen I see the following to be necessary: 1. The city council rationalise the bus services in Southampton putting groups of routes out to tender - proper targets and criteria to be set - levels of service etc. 2. Route numbers are set by the council - so they do not change every 6 months! And routes to suit what people do - travel between Woolston and neighbouring areas, Sholing, Weston, Thronhill, Bitterne, etc. 3. Site for bus and coach station central. To include a free link to train station, royal pier, and cruise terminals to allowing coach passengers to link easily. Also a free round city centre service. 4. Proper car parking on the periphery of the city well served by free bus service - car parking run by the council to remain reasonably priced and to pay for free city centre service. 5. A permit parking system for those working within the city. This will allow city centre parking to be reduced to a minimum and reducing cars into the city centre. The key to this is a 5-10 minute regular service from car parks to prevent the need for city centre parking. An integrated system like this could modernise Southampton making it easier for traffic to access key areas like cruise terminals and train stations. Through traffic would flow better too. 2010chappy
  • Score: 5

6:14pm Sun 22 Jun 14

kingkong 1 says...

FIVE GUYS a gourmet eatery boy are you people in trouble
FIVE GUYS a gourmet eatery boy are you people in trouble kingkong 1
  • Score: -4

7:31pm Sun 22 Jun 14

focus19 says...

mickey01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus
Your Joking , Have you been on a Uni Link Bus from the Station to Dock Gate 4 When the ships are in . they bring up to 5 suite cases ..... Co's its only a short journey most driver allow it . :-/
[quote][p][bold]mickey01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus[/p][/quote]Your Joking , Have you been on a Uni Link Bus from the Station to Dock Gate 4 When the ships are in . they bring up to 5 suite cases ..... Co's its only a short journey most driver allow it . :-/ focus19
  • Score: 1

7:32pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Saint Botley says...

SteveinTotton wrote:
This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.
Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre.
[quote][p][bold]SteveinTotton[/bold] wrote: This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre. Saint Botley
  • Score: 1

7:47pm Sun 22 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

Saint Botley wrote:
SteveinTotton wrote:
This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.
Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre.
so do you think we really need another cinema and umpty ump more restaurants then?
[quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SteveinTotton[/bold] wrote: This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre.[/p][/quote]so do you think we really need another cinema and umpty ump more restaurants then? 03alpe01
  • Score: -2

9:22pm Sun 22 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep.
But it was about her broken heart.
Oh well! I enjoyed it and thought it was a lovely example of a human relating to an animal. Just sorry your wife did not view it in the same way.
I agree with you because I've heard many religious songs sang in Thai & they sound fantastic even if you don't know what the songs about.
What you have to remember my wife knows exactly what the singers saying & knows it's a way to make money or so my wife believes.
On YOUTUBE there are many Thai clips if you watch them you might hear many you like.
If I knew you & I could send you a copy of Thai music (CD) I would happily do so.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep. But it was about her broken heart.[/p][/quote]Oh well! I enjoyed it and thought it was a lovely example of a human relating to an animal. Just sorry your wife did not view it in the same way.[/p][/quote]I agree with you because I've heard many religious songs sang in Thai & they sound fantastic even if you don't know what the songs about. What you have to remember my wife knows exactly what the singers saying & knows it's a way to make money or so my wife believes. On YOUTUBE there are many Thai clips if you watch them you might hear many you like. If I knew you & I could send you a copy of Thai music (CD) I would happily do so. loosehead
  • Score: -2

9:24pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Saint Botley says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Saint Botley wrote:
SteveinTotton wrote:
This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.
Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre.
so do you think we really need another cinema and umpty ump more restaurants then?
I think that part of town, with the back drop of the walls would be best utilised with restaurants, bars & leisure facilities, yeah. This design with the fountains etc would nicely compliment the features we already have in a way that a bus station frankly wouldn't. It's a nice part of town and we should show it off. We tend not to in Southampton, we have lots to shout about here but most of it slips under the radar. Apart from Oxford Street we do lack attractive areas for social activities. Leisure World never cut it, badly designed and located. I think this will be good for the city.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SteveinTotton[/bold] wrote: This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre.[/p][/quote]so do you think we really need another cinema and umpty ump more restaurants then?[/p][/quote]I think that part of town, with the back drop of the walls would be best utilised with restaurants, bars & leisure facilities, yeah. This design with the fountains etc would nicely compliment the features we already have in a way that a bus station frankly wouldn't. It's a nice part of town and we should show it off. We tend not to in Southampton, we have lots to shout about here but most of it slips under the radar. Apart from Oxford Street we do lack attractive areas for social activities. Leisure World never cut it, badly designed and located. I think this will be good for the city. Saint Botley
  • Score: 1

9:31pm Sun 22 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Saint Botley wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Saint Botley wrote:
SteveinTotton wrote:
This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.
Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre.
so do you think we really need another cinema and umpty ump more restaurants then?
I think that part of town, with the back drop of the walls would be best utilised with restaurants, bars & leisure facilities, yeah. This design with the fountains etc would nicely compliment the features we already have in a way that a bus station frankly wouldn't. It's a nice part of town and we should show it off. We tend not to in Southampton, we have lots to shout about here but most of it slips under the radar. Apart from Oxford Street we do lack attractive areas for social activities. Leisure World never cut it, badly designed and located. I think this will be good for the city.
I remember the old bus station & the roads around it & would rather see that than the Marland centre.
I also remember the Lido & would prefer that to Toys R us.
Why not nock down the Bargate centre & have your restaurants there as there are parts of the city castle there?
We are a Port we need to get transport out of town as quickly as possible so a Combined coach & bus station with parking for cruise ship pick ups & a shuttle service to the terminals would greatly help with our traffic problems.
Busses right near West Quay right next to Leisure World this would allow people to get a bus go to the movies/shopping with out having to drive into the city or hunt a bus stop.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Botley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SteveinTotton[/bold] wrote: This is a great design and needs to be built, yes the high street and above bar are in need of something. What is needed for them is for them to become a mecca of idependent retailers, something like the north laines in Brighton. Also the market around the Bargate is very tacky. Something like the crafts and antiques market you see on Winchester is needed in Above bar. Not a greasy burger van obstructing the view of an ancient monument.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. The Watermark plans look great. And if the council priced retail units sensibly in above bar then an area for independent retailers could be real draw city. Also, the current market is just dreadful. And it's all over the place now too. Actually stretches beyond the precinct some days. And looks gawd awful every step of the way. The one in Winchester is far better. Classier, less obtrusive. Ours lays waste to the whole city centre.[/p][/quote]so do you think we really need another cinema and umpty ump more restaurants then?[/p][/quote]I think that part of town, with the back drop of the walls would be best utilised with restaurants, bars & leisure facilities, yeah. This design with the fountains etc would nicely compliment the features we already have in a way that a bus station frankly wouldn't. It's a nice part of town and we should show it off. We tend not to in Southampton, we have lots to shout about here but most of it slips under the radar. Apart from Oxford Street we do lack attractive areas for social activities. Leisure World never cut it, badly designed and located. I think this will be good for the city.[/p][/quote]I remember the old bus station & the roads around it & would rather see that than the Marland centre. I also remember the Lido & would prefer that to Toys R us. Why not nock down the Bargate centre & have your restaurants there as there are parts of the city castle there? We are a Port we need to get transport out of town as quickly as possible so a Combined coach & bus station with parking for cruise ship pick ups & a shuttle service to the terminals would greatly help with our traffic problems. Busses right near West Quay right next to Leisure World this would allow people to get a bus go to the movies/shopping with out having to drive into the city or hunt a bus stop. loosehead
  • Score: -1

9:42pm Sun 22 Jun 14

BeyondImagination says...

Approval of plans for more cinemas and restaurants will be the latest monumental failure of a council with no vision.
Approval of plans for more cinemas and restaurants will be the latest monumental failure of a council with no vision. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 2

9:59pm Sun 22 Jun 14

SteveinTotton says...

Yes a bus station is needed but next to the walls and West Quay, no. Best place for it would have been where Ikea was built. Ikea should have been built on the old Phillips site close to the M271 or near the new Ordnance Survey building.
Yes a bus station is needed but next to the walls and West Quay, no. Best place for it would have been where Ikea was built. Ikea should have been built on the old Phillips site close to the M271 or near the new Ordnance Survey building. SteveinTotton
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Rob444 says...

The proposed new building is totally out of character with the old town walls, which will still be there long after this monstrosity is gone and forgotten.
The proposed new building is totally out of character with the old town walls, which will still be there long after this monstrosity is gone and forgotten. Rob444
  • Score: 0

10:41pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep.
But it was about her broken heart.
Oh well! I enjoyed it and thought it was a lovely example of a human relating to an animal. Just sorry your wife did not view it in the same way.
I agree with you because I've heard many religious songs sang in Thai & they sound fantastic even if you don't know what the songs about.
What you have to remember my wife knows exactly what the singers saying & knows it's a way to make money or so my wife believes.
On YOUTUBE there are many Thai clips if you watch them you might hear many you like.
If I knew you & I could send you a copy of Thai music (CD) I would happily do so.
Thanks for the offer. It was not the singing alone, it was the singing and the elephant's reaction to the singing and the reaction to the attention received from the singer.

I was amused to discover that sleeping elephants snore.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]My wife said it was stupid & all I could get her to say is it was a song she sang because she was broken hearted & she was singing it whilst trying to get the elephant to sleep. But it was about her broken heart.[/p][/quote]Oh well! I enjoyed it and thought it was a lovely example of a human relating to an animal. Just sorry your wife did not view it in the same way.[/p][/quote]I agree with you because I've heard many religious songs sang in Thai & they sound fantastic even if you don't know what the songs about. What you have to remember my wife knows exactly what the singers saying & knows it's a way to make money or so my wife believes. On YOUTUBE there are many Thai clips if you watch them you might hear many you like. If I knew you & I could send you a copy of Thai music (CD) I would happily do so.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the offer. It was not the singing alone, it was the singing and the elephant's reaction to the singing and the reaction to the attention received from the singer. I was amused to discover that sleeping elephants snore. Linesman
  • Score: 0

11:00pm Sun 22 Jun 14

BeyondImagination says...

Approval for plans of more cinemas and restaurants will be a catastrophic failure of the council to serve the residents of Southampton - Again.
Approval for plans of more cinemas and restaurants will be a catastrophic failure of the council to serve the residents of Southampton - Again. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

6:39am Mon 23 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

I remember the bus station it was rubbish,total rubbish.why are people in soton obsessed with buses? Every time there is an article about building or planning people start talking about buses and bus routes.soton really needs something and fast.
I remember the bus station it was rubbish,total rubbish.why are people in soton obsessed with buses? Every time there is an article about building or planning people start talking about buses and bus routes.soton really needs something and fast. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 0

8:31am Mon 23 Jun 14

southy says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
southy wrote:
Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list
Erm, no. I will settle for the bowling alley and restaurants, rather than Council homes in that area. Yours is a ridiculous post.
Its not Homes are needed and this would be a great area to build council homes, you probley find the people that would end up living there would also work in the area.
We have bowling allys dotted all round the city and we have to many restaurants, put in things that we really need not things thats not needed
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Council should buy up this land and build Council homes for the residence of Southampton long waiting list[/p][/quote]Erm, no. I will settle for the bowling alley and restaurants, rather than Council homes in that area. Yours is a ridiculous post.[/p][/quote]Its not Homes are needed and this would be a great area to build council homes, you probley find the people that would end up living there would also work in the area. We have bowling allys dotted all round the city and we have to many restaurants, put in things that we really need not things thats not needed southy
  • Score: -1

8:36am Mon 23 Jun 14

southy says...

Linesman wrote:
focus19 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL
I note that mickey01 says that cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus.

That seems a lot more logical.

My betting is that they would get a cab.
Hotels also supply a van to take luggage to the port, Another Hotel that seems to get a number internationals stays for the shipping liners is the Lyndhusrt Hotel, but they use a coach to ferry them in.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL[/p][/quote]I note that mickey01 says that cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus. That seems a lot more logical. My betting is that they would get a cab.[/p][/quote]Hotels also supply a van to take luggage to the port, Another Hotel that seems to get a number internationals stays for the shipping liners is the Lyndhusrt Hotel, but they use a coach to ferry them in. southy
  • Score: 0

10:37am Mon 23 Jun 14

pollthom says...

Everybody is completely obsessed with having to build new, rather than working with what the city already has and is currently boarded up or empty. Complete lack of vision. There's no infrastructure enabling the operation of an extension. Building more car parks will not help. The roads cannot cope with the current number of cars.
I believe the current development of the Vospers sight will have a hotel, restaurants, casino and a cinema too!
The council should be focussing their efforts on cleaning up Southampton. There's rubbish everywhere.
Everybody is completely obsessed with having to build new, rather than working with what the city already has and is currently boarded up or empty. Complete lack of vision. There's no infrastructure enabling the operation of an extension. Building more car parks will not help. The roads cannot cope with the current number of cars. I believe the current development of the Vospers sight will have a hotel, restaurants, casino and a cinema too! The council should be focussing their efforts on cleaning up Southampton. There's rubbish everywhere. pollthom
  • Score: 2

11:04am Mon 23 Jun 14

Golden Balls says...

A bus station blocking out the city walls? Do me a favour! That's a ridiculous idea.

Bowling alleys dotted all around the city? There's millbrook and....oh yeah. That's it.

"Not another cinema" - you are aware it will be moving from Leisure World to this much more impressive sight? Not competing with it. Long term to knock down leisure world and have something useful there.

"We don't need more restaurants and shops....We need something like Gunwharf"....which is full of restaurants and shops.

Stop moaning for moanings sake and realise this is an improvement to a currently disused eye sore that is one of the first things millions of tourists see every year.

We do however need a park and ride at some point with all these developments going ahead within the next few years. That will come after the traffic problems that's are caused are assessed.
A bus station blocking out the city walls? Do me a favour! That's a ridiculous idea. Bowling alleys dotted all around the city? There's millbrook and....oh yeah. That's it. "Not another cinema" - you are aware it will be moving from Leisure World to this much more impressive sight? Not competing with it. Long term to knock down leisure world and have something useful there. "We don't need more restaurants and shops....We need something like Gunwharf"....which is full of restaurants and shops. Stop moaning for moanings sake and realise this is an improvement to a currently disused eye sore that is one of the first things millions of tourists see every year. We do however need a park and ride at some point with all these developments going ahead within the next few years. That will come after the traffic problems that's are caused are assessed. Golden Balls
  • Score: 1

11:24am Mon 23 Jun 14

Linesman says...

southy wrote:
Linesman wrote:
focus19 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have?
aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's?
surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?
I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion.

Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.
Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL
I note that mickey01 says that cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus.

That seems a lot more logical.

My betting is that they would get a cab.
Hotels also supply a van to take luggage to the port, Another Hotel that seems to get a number internationals stays for the shipping liners is the Lyndhusrt Hotel, but they use a coach to ferry them in.
That makes sense. They would not take the passengers' luggage in a van, and then expect the passengers to catch a bus.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]focus19[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Why not replace the Bus station we once had onto this site? maybe make it a combined bus & coach station instead of the dump we now have? aren't there enough shops,restaurants & cinema's? surely just there in easy walking distance from the port this would be a great asset to us & the cruise industry?[/p][/quote]I very much doubt that anyone arriving or departing on a cruise, would be doing so by bus, but otherwise, a sensible suggestion. Suggest you check out Youtube lullaby to elephant. It may make your wife a bit homesick, and you could ask her for a translation for me.[/p][/quote]Actually that is incorrect, A lot of Americans stays at the the chilworth manor hotel and many use the Bluestar 1 bus to and from the the city centre if they are on a pre cruise stay, international visitors that stay over before they cruise love Double Deck bus experience and use the service for the ride on the top deck. We also get asked which buses serve the cruise terminal for visiting ships, unfortunately there aren't any and many visitors either walk or Taxi to and from the city centre and visiting ships which is a real shame and a long walk and expensive taxi ride. Something as a city we need to improve on ..... Just Saying LOL[/p][/quote]I note that mickey01 says that cruise passengers have too much luggage for a bus. That seems a lot more logical. My betting is that they would get a cab.[/p][/quote]Hotels also supply a van to take luggage to the port, Another Hotel that seems to get a number internationals stays for the shipping liners is the Lyndhusrt Hotel, but they use a coach to ferry them in.[/p][/quote]That makes sense. They would not take the passengers' luggage in a van, and then expect the passengers to catch a bus. Linesman
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2:31pm Mon 23 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

Golden Balls wrote:
A bus station blocking out the city walls? Do me a favour! That's a ridiculous idea.

Bowling alleys dotted all around the city? There's millbrook and....oh yeah. That's it.

"Not another cinema" - you are aware it will be moving from Leisure World to this much more impressive sight? Not competing with it. Long term to knock down leisure world and have something useful there.

"We don't need more restaurants and shops....We need something like Gunwharf"....which is full of restaurants and shops.

Stop moaning for moanings sake and realise this is an improvement to a currently disused eye sore that is one of the first things millions of tourists see every year.

We do however need a park and ride at some point with all these developments going ahead within the next few years. That will come after the traffic problems that's are caused are assessed.
There is a bowling alley in Eastleigh as well. Not quite in Southampton, but close enough. The cinema will not be moving anywhere from Leisure World. That is an Odeon and this is a Showcase Cinema de Lux. Two completely different operators. Odeon's lease is up in 2017, so if they do go it will be because this will have taken it's business. They are not moving over. Gunwharf is on the waterfront and is close to the Spinnaker Tower and the Historic Dockyard so will always offer something different. But yes, a park and ride scheme would be very much appreciated!
[quote][p][bold]Golden Balls[/bold] wrote: A bus station blocking out the city walls? Do me a favour! That's a ridiculous idea. Bowling alleys dotted all around the city? There's millbrook and....oh yeah. That's it. "Not another cinema" - you are aware it will be moving from Leisure World to this much more impressive sight? Not competing with it. Long term to knock down leisure world and have something useful there. "We don't need more restaurants and shops....We need something like Gunwharf"....which is full of restaurants and shops. Stop moaning for moanings sake and realise this is an improvement to a currently disused eye sore that is one of the first things millions of tourists see every year. We do however need a park and ride at some point with all these developments going ahead within the next few years. That will come after the traffic problems that's are caused are assessed.[/p][/quote]There is a bowling alley in Eastleigh as well. Not quite in Southampton, but close enough. The cinema will not be moving anywhere from Leisure World. That is an Odeon and this is a Showcase Cinema de Lux. Two completely different operators. Odeon's lease is up in 2017, so if they do go it will be because this will have taken it's business. They are not moving over. Gunwharf is on the waterfront and is close to the Spinnaker Tower and the Historic Dockyard so will always offer something different. But yes, a park and ride scheme would be very much appreciated! 03alpe01
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5:13pm Mon 23 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Golden Balls wrote:
A bus station blocking out the city walls? Do me a favour! That's a ridiculous idea.

Bowling alleys dotted all around the city? There's millbrook and....oh yeah. That's it.

"Not another cinema" - you are aware it will be moving from Leisure World to this much more impressive sight? Not competing with it. Long term to knock down leisure world and have something useful there.

"We don't need more restaurants and shops....We need something like Gunwharf"....which is full of restaurants and shops.

Stop moaning for moanings sake and realise this is an improvement to a currently disused eye sore that is one of the first things millions of tourists see every year.

We do however need a park and ride at some point with all these developments going ahead within the next few years. That will come after the traffic problems that's are caused are assessed.
Exactly how would it block out the city's walls?
Bus/Coach terminus running across the plot not alongside the plot.
coach bays nearest the walls to leave the walls very visible.
so build a new cinema build restaurants exactly what type of view of the city walls?
drive towards West Quay from the West & tell me how much of the city walls you can see?
[quote][p][bold]Golden Balls[/bold] wrote: A bus station blocking out the city walls? Do me a favour! That's a ridiculous idea. Bowling alleys dotted all around the city? There's millbrook and....oh yeah. That's it. "Not another cinema" - you are aware it will be moving from Leisure World to this much more impressive sight? Not competing with it. Long term to knock down leisure world and have something useful there. "We don't need more restaurants and shops....We need something like Gunwharf"....which is full of restaurants and shops. Stop moaning for moanings sake and realise this is an improvement to a currently disused eye sore that is one of the first things millions of tourists see every year. We do however need a park and ride at some point with all these developments going ahead within the next few years. That will come after the traffic problems that's are caused are assessed.[/p][/quote]Exactly how would it block out the city's walls? Bus/Coach terminus running across the plot not alongside the plot. coach bays nearest the walls to leave the walls very visible. so build a new cinema build restaurants exactly what type of view of the city walls? drive towards West Quay from the West & tell me how much of the city walls you can see? loosehead
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5:52pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Have you been Shopping in Southampton walk walk the City is crying out for a Tram Link or Mono Rail nothing is Central!
Have you been Shopping in Southampton walk walk the City is crying out for a Tram Link or Mono Rail nothing is Central! Fatty x Ford Worker
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9:08pm Mon 23 Jun 14

loosehead says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Have you been Shopping in Southampton walk walk the City is crying out for a Tram Link or Mono Rail nothing is Central!
Even though I'm a Tory & I can't stand Whitehead I was all for his monorail & still think it would be a great asset to the city.
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: Have you been Shopping in Southampton walk walk the City is crying out for a Tram Link or Mono Rail nothing is Central![/p][/quote]Even though I'm a Tory & I can't stand Whitehead I was all for his monorail & still think it would be a great asset to the city. loosehead
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10:34am Wed 25 Jun 14

roberthernandez says...

City residents poll in the top three for feeling the financial strain of summer. The Trafford Centre is a large indoor shopping centre and leisure complex in condor hotel in brooklyn
thanks
City residents poll in the top three for feeling the financial strain of summer. The Trafford Centre is a large indoor shopping centre and leisure complex in condor hotel in brooklyn thanks roberthernandez
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8:37pm Wed 25 Jun 14

fionaphillips says...

Southampton suffers because we have no real pull for tourists/visitors, whatever we do or build here will not make locals spend any more money. Tourism and visitors is the only way for our city to progress so we have to build something that will attract them. We need to build a titanic shaped zoo on the plot just like the one in the common in the 70's. People traveled from across the globe to see Charlie the cigarette smoking chimpanzee
Southampton suffers because we have no real pull for tourists/visitors, whatever we do or build here will not make locals spend any more money. Tourism and visitors is the only way for our city to progress so we have to build something that will attract them. We need to build a titanic shaped zoo on the plot just like the one in the common in the 70's. People traveled from across the globe to see Charlie the cigarette smoking chimpanzee fionaphillips
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8:41pm Wed 25 Jun 14

fionaphillips says...

Another idea is to build a giant wetherspoons/bookies
/ and primark all under one roof, where all the lowlife and scumbags can hang around as not to upset the tourists.We could build a big wall around it and maybe make our city more apealing for visitors !!
Another idea is to build a giant wetherspoons/bookies / and primark all under one roof, where all the lowlife and scumbags can hang around as not to upset the tourists.We could build a big wall around it and maybe make our city more apealing for visitors !! fionaphillips
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