Planners back three major projects that will change the face of Southampton's waterfront

Daily Echo: How the Spitfire memorial planned for Mayflower Park will look How the Spitfire memorial planned for Mayflower Park will look

PLANNERS last night backed three major waterfront developments that are set to change the face of Southampton’s waterfront.

A massive £70million leisure complex, a 130ft monument to an iconic aircraft and a state-of-the-art new dockside research centre for cutting edge underwater robots were all passed by councillors.

First to receive their blessing was the giant statue in Mayflower Park celebrating the Spitfire aircraft which was developed and manufactured in the city and was crucial in protecting the nation during the Second World War.

Now the team behind it have to raise £3.5million before building work can begin. They say it could be completed within two and a half years.

Then the final hurdle for one of the city’s biggest projects in living memory was overcome after developer Hammerson was given the all clear to push ahead for its Watermark complex.

Daily Echo:

An artist's impression of how Hammerson's Watermark development will look.

The development on derelict land next to the WestQuay shopping centre is set to create 500 construction jobs, along with a further 500 permanent positions when the development opens.

It is centred on a luxury ten-screen cinema and a bowling alley.

There will also be a row of posh eateries – possibly including national names such as Jamie Oliver’s chain Jamie’s, Mexican chain Wahaca and gourmet burger joints Byron and Five Guys – and bars.

Daily Echo: Spitfire memorial.JPG

The leisure elements will tower over a new piazza running alongside the city’s medieval walls and water features designed to ebb and flow like the tide.

Finally The National Oceanography Centre’s plans for a new innovation centre in European Way, which is part of the University of Southampton, were passed.

It will be used to build a fleet of 40 Marine Autonomous and Robotics Systems (MARS), similar to the underwater craft currently being used to search for the missing MH370 aircraft in the Indian Ocean.

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9:42pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place
Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: -60

10:24pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Oliverm says...

Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place
All great news for Southampton. Oh cheer up Harold! (you boring old sod!)
[quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place[/p][/quote]All great news for Southampton. Oh cheer up Harold! (you boring old sod!) Oliverm
  • Score: 50

10:24pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Oliverm says...

Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place
All great news for Southampton. Oh cheer up Harold! (you boring old sod!)
[quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place[/p][/quote]All great news for Southampton. Oh cheer up Harold! (you boring old sod!) Oliverm
  • Score: 7

10:39pm Tue 24 Jun 14

scumpy29 says...

Great news! I just hope they tweak the design of the west Quay building. The spitfire will hopefully be something to be proud of
Great news! I just hope they tweak the design of the west Quay building. The spitfire will hopefully be something to be proud of scumpy29
  • Score: 17

11:50pm Tue 24 Jun 14

mr.southampton says...

Really hope that tacky Spitfire doesn't get off the ground. Why can't we look to the future instead of the past. Look how the spinnaker tower acts as a landmark in Pompey. A silver replica of the HMS victory wouldn't be the same.
Really hope that tacky Spitfire doesn't get off the ground. Why can't we look to the future instead of the past. Look how the spinnaker tower acts as a landmark in Pompey. A silver replica of the HMS victory wouldn't be the same. mr.southampton
  • Score: -23

11:51pm Tue 24 Jun 14

WoolstonSean says...

The view of the Spitfire monument as shown in the picture is not located at Mayflower Park but berth 50 overlooking Town Quay. You would have you would have thought the design team could have got that right!
The view of the Spitfire monument as shown in the picture is not located at Mayflower Park but berth 50 overlooking Town Quay. You would have you would have thought the design team could have got that right! WoolstonSean
  • Score: 11

11:59pm Tue 24 Jun 14

sarfhamton says...

Ice Rink?
Ice Rink? sarfhamton
  • Score: -3

12:15am Wed 25 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

Sadly, only Watermark West Quay will happen
Sadly, only Watermark West Quay will happen 03alpe01
  • Score: -6

12:38am Wed 25 Jun 14

BeyondImagination says...

I can hardly contain my excitement. Good luck to the Oceanography department. Yahboo sucks to more cinemas and restaurants. Total indifference to the spitfire. More imagination required.
I can hardly contain my excitement. Good luck to the Oceanography department. Yahboo sucks to more cinemas and restaurants. Total indifference to the spitfire. More imagination required. BeyondImagination
  • Score: -1

1:03am Wed 25 Jun 14

southy says...

What would look great is an man made island in the middle of the river with the Spitfire.

I want to know Councillors that post on the Echo, What happen to the 10 new shops that was meant to be at Cumbrian way, and where is the Council homes also. Have we in the Millbrook and Redbridge Wards been sold out again Not just by the Tory Council but also Labour Council even low it was a Tory Planing Labour should of made sure there was no change in the plan.
Because yet again Council owned land and building being sold of to the private sector.
What would look great is an man made island in the middle of the river with the Spitfire. I want to know Councillors that post on the Echo, What happen to the 10 new shops that was meant to be at Cumbrian way, and where is the Council homes also. Have we in the Millbrook and Redbridge Wards been sold out again Not just by the Tory Council but also Labour Council even low it was a Tory Planing Labour should of made sure there was no change in the plan. Because yet again Council owned land and building being sold of to the private sector. southy
  • Score: 0

5:43am Wed 25 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

while the rest of southampton crumbles.
while the rest of southampton crumbles. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -2

6:49am Wed 25 Jun 14

Kirsty666 says...

scumpy29 wrote:
Great news! I just hope they tweak the design of the west Quay building. The spitfire will hopefully be something to be proud of
The plan is to make it more like the Bull Ring in Birmingham
[quote][p][bold]scumpy29[/bold] wrote: Great news! I just hope they tweak the design of the west Quay building. The spitfire will hopefully be something to be proud of[/p][/quote]The plan is to make it more like the Bull Ring in Birmingham Kirsty666
  • Score: 1

7:49am Wed 25 Jun 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built. Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 3

7:54am Wed 25 Jun 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head southy
  • Score: -9

8:40am Wed 25 Jun 14

Lone Ranger. says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
Yes i agree Southy ... however i am sure that there would have been shipping and cost implications involved with your idea. .... after all container and cruise ships are not getting any smaller
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]Yes i agree Southy ... however i am sure that there would have been shipping and cost implications involved with your idea. .... after all container and cruise ships are not getting any smaller Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 4

8:59am Wed 25 Jun 14

speedicut says...

£3.5 million?! Wouldn't it be cheaper to build a real Spitfire?
£3.5 million?! Wouldn't it be cheaper to build a real Spitfire? speedicut
  • Score: 20

9:02am Wed 25 Jun 14

killthrill says...

More cinemas? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAWNNN give it a fkg rest already!!!!!!!!!!
More cinemas? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAWNNN give it a fkg rest already!!!!!!!!!! killthrill
  • Score: 15

9:06am Wed 25 Jun 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
Peter stop moaning. Some time giving up typical Trotskyist habit of finding faults with everything may not be a bad idea.

Idea of Spitfire in Mayflower has been around for a long time, as mentioned in the news item it needs lots of money, which these days is not easy to raise.

Your latest dream / vision, which I can't recall you having mentioned before, will cost many times more and even if taken seriously due to cost factor will put the project on the back burner for ever.

Lone Ranger is right and most people will agree with his statement "Now let's get on and get it built"..... Before in its usual style Southampton Council changes it's mind!!!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]Peter stop moaning. Some time giving up typical Trotskyist habit of finding faults with everything may not be a bad idea. Idea of Spitfire in Mayflower has been around for a long time, as mentioned in the news item it needs lots of money, which these days is not easy to raise. Your latest dream / vision, which I can't recall you having mentioned before, will cost many times more and even if taken seriously due to cost factor will put the project on the back burner for ever. Lone Ranger is right and most people will agree with his statement "Now let's get on and get it built"..... Before in its usual style Southampton Council changes it's mind!!! Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 11

9:09am Wed 25 Jun 14

Sholingista says...

Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place
Racist moron.
[quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place[/p][/quote]Racist moron. Sholingista
  • Score: 4

9:14am Wed 25 Jun 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

Sholingista wrote:
Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place
Racist moron.
Wouldn't say I was a moron.....
[quote][p][bold]Sholingista[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place[/p][/quote]Racist moron.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't say I was a moron..... Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: 4

9:18am Wed 25 Jun 14

Linesman says...

When the Sea City Museum was 'sold to the public', we were told that it would not be a cost to the city's council tax payers.

Wikipedia reveals that it cost the council tax payers £10, and in the first two years attracted 23% fewer visitors that the city's 'experts' had predicted, falling short of the number needed to 'break even.'

If this goes ahead, it must be financed by grants and donations, and NOT be another drain on the city's finances, with the money in place before the first stone is laid.

The City Council should learn from previous mistakes.
When the Sea City Museum was 'sold to the public', we were told that it would not be a cost to the city's council tax payers. Wikipedia reveals that it cost the council tax payers £10, and in the first two years attracted 23% fewer visitors that the city's 'experts' had predicted, falling short of the number needed to 'break even.' If this goes ahead, it must be financed by grants and donations, and NOT be another drain on the city's finances, with the money in place before the first stone is laid. The City Council should learn from previous mistakes. Linesman
  • Score: -2

9:20am Wed 25 Jun 14

rick0601 says...

Not sure we need another cinema. Cineworld, Odeon, Harbour Lights are all in town. Why not put something in that will attract more people/tourists to the city? Or give those that live here somewhere to take visitors - other than to West Quay. An Ice Rink/Concert Venue would be welcome and provide a boost to the local economy - a cinema won't.

Whilst the Spitfire is a proud symbol of the history of the city, I'm not sure people will be flooding to see it. How long would it take to view? 5 minutes? I'm not sure that I'm convinced.
Not sure we need another cinema. Cineworld, Odeon, Harbour Lights are all in town. Why not put something in that will attract more people/tourists to the city? Or give those that live here somewhere to take visitors - other than to West Quay. An Ice Rink/Concert Venue would be welcome and provide a boost to the local economy - a cinema won't. Whilst the Spitfire is a proud symbol of the history of the city, I'm not sure people will be flooding to see it. How long would it take to view? 5 minutes? I'm not sure that I'm convinced. rick0601
  • Score: 10

9:25am Wed 25 Jun 14

coxfordsaint says...

Its the pier and waterfront that needs developing it looks and absolute disgrace, We had ocean village / town quay although not great at least you could sit down by the water and have a meal or drink. We must be one of the only city/towns on the waters edge that doesn't make use of it .What a first view for passengers when they arrive from all over the world, a rotten pier, offices, a piece of grass at Mayflower they call a park, dirty great scrap metal mountains and salt mountains. Give us back the waterfront. I hate to say it but we are lacking behind places like Gunwharf .Make ours a city people want to visit not just student accommodation blocks. How about somewhere for top live bands to play we have nowhere now
Its the pier and waterfront that needs developing it looks and absolute disgrace, We had ocean village / town quay although not great at least you could sit down by the water and have a meal or drink. We must be one of the only city/towns on the waters edge that doesn't make use of it .What a first view for passengers when they arrive from all over the world, a rotten pier, offices, a piece of grass at Mayflower they call a park, dirty great scrap metal mountains and salt mountains. Give us back the waterfront. I hate to say it but we are lacking behind places like Gunwharf .Make ours a city people want to visit not just student accommodation blocks. How about somewhere for top live bands to play we have nowhere now coxfordsaint
  • Score: 28

9:42am Wed 25 Jun 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
Yes i agree Southy ... however i am sure that there would have been shipping and cost implications involved with your idea. .... after all container and cruise ships are not getting any smaller
Theres the Achorage ground just off Dock head, would be an ideal spot, could even have a tunnel connecting up with say Netley Abby
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]Yes i agree Southy ... however i am sure that there would have been shipping and cost implications involved with your idea. .... after all container and cruise ships are not getting any smaller[/p][/quote]Theres the Achorage ground just off Dock head, would be an ideal spot, could even have a tunnel connecting up with say Netley Abby southy
  • Score: -15

9:50am Wed 25 Jun 14

RealTalkSouthampton says...

Dock gate 4 road improvements : people moan
Weston riverside development: people moan
ikea : people moan
watermark development : people moan
central station development : people moan
Student flat next to mayflower : people moan
Cultural Quarter: people moan

i Don't think there are as many active projects in Portsmouth,Bournemou
th and Brighton combined.

There are so many things happening in Southampton but people on these forums always find something negative. I agree that like every city we could want for something extra. But why cant people support the momentum. The Biggest thing that holds back Southampton and the surrounding area's are these negative nimbys in their ivory towers. Ask any independent business owner and they will tell you the same thing. Still love the place i call home. Just to many small village thinkers. We should have an international airport. Faster train service to London. encouraging London centric people to live in Southampton for lower cost of living but work in London on London salaries. these people will then invest money and diversity into Southampton. Create a monorail from hythe to woolston and extend the boundaries of the city to include eastleigh and waterside. this will ensure planning is more consistant and services like transport are better coordinated. Time to think big!
Dock gate 4 road improvements : people moan Weston riverside development: people moan ikea : people moan watermark development : people moan central station development : people moan Student flat next to mayflower : people moan Cultural Quarter: people moan i Don't think there are as many active projects in Portsmouth,Bournemou th and Brighton combined. There are so many things happening in Southampton but people on these forums always find something negative. I agree that like every city we could want for something extra. But why cant people support the momentum. The Biggest thing that holds back Southampton and the surrounding area's are these negative nimbys in their ivory towers. Ask any independent business owner and they will tell you the same thing. Still love the place i call home. Just to many small village thinkers. We should have an international airport. Faster train service to London. encouraging London centric people to live in Southampton for lower cost of living but work in London on London salaries. these people will then invest money and diversity into Southampton. Create a monorail from hythe to woolston and extend the boundaries of the city to include eastleigh and waterside. this will ensure planning is more consistant and services like transport are better coordinated. Time to think big! RealTalkSouthampton
  • Score: 13

10:09am Wed 25 Jun 14

Rhombus says...

50" telly , £1 bag of butterkist and the pirate bay. Who needs a cinema anyway :P
50" telly , £1 bag of butterkist and the pirate bay. Who needs a cinema anyway :P Rhombus
  • Score: 15

10:10am Wed 25 Jun 14

southy says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
Peter stop moaning. Some time giving up typical Trotskyist habit of finding faults with everything may not be a bad idea.

Idea of Spitfire in Mayflower has been around for a long time, as mentioned in the news item it needs lots of money, which these days is not easy to raise.

Your latest dream / vision, which I can't recall you having mentioned before, will cost many times more and even if taken seriously due to cost factor will put the project on the back burner for ever.

Lone Ranger is right and most people will agree with his statement "Now let's get on and get it built"..... Before in its usual style Southampton Council changes it's mind!!!
This is the first time for Mayflower to have this statue, the nearest location to mayflower was the roundabout and town quay, Think the echo as made a minor error on location as WoolstonSean as pointed out.
"WoolstonSean says...
The view of the Spitfire monument as shown in the picture is not located at Mayflower Park but berth 50 overlooking Town Quay."
The City wants a wow factor and I have given that location to get that wow factor thats needed, put this statue any where else and your not going to get that wow factor. having the right location is very important to get that wow factor think about it.
Here what to do build man made island on the Achorage grounds just off Netley Abby connect abby and island up by a shuttle tunnel, and water taxi service between town quay and island / or a tunnel shuttle both would work.
When you sail into places like Rio Harbour what is it the gives the place it wow factor, sail into California bay and again what gives it wow factor, portsmoth harbour, sail up the river Avon into Bristol old docks, or sail up the river severn, Sydney harbour, these all have the wow factor and its because of the location.
One of my pass suggestions way to build a suspension bridge down river connecting up say Hamble with south Hythe, but a few moan about shipping and like I pointed out they could still pass under, these people have never been across Dartford suspension bridge it is that high any shipping could pass under it on any tide and this bridge take off points are only a foot or 2 above sea level, here we would have the avantage of the river valley hill top as a take off point.
People just don't think, they see some thing and say lets build it and wonder why its a flop later on like the Sea Museum nice idea wrong location
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]Peter stop moaning. Some time giving up typical Trotskyist habit of finding faults with everything may not be a bad idea. Idea of Spitfire in Mayflower has been around for a long time, as mentioned in the news item it needs lots of money, which these days is not easy to raise. Your latest dream / vision, which I can't recall you having mentioned before, will cost many times more and even if taken seriously due to cost factor will put the project on the back burner for ever. Lone Ranger is right and most people will agree with his statement "Now let's get on and get it built"..... Before in its usual style Southampton Council changes it's mind!!![/p][/quote]This is the first time for Mayflower to have this statue, the nearest location to mayflower was the roundabout and town quay, Think the echo as made a minor error on location as WoolstonSean as pointed out. "WoolstonSean says... The view of the Spitfire monument as shown in the picture is not located at Mayflower Park but berth 50 overlooking Town Quay." The City wants a wow factor and I have given that location to get that wow factor thats needed, put this statue any where else and your not going to get that wow factor. having the right location is very important to get that wow factor think about it. Here what to do build man made island on the Achorage grounds just off Netley Abby connect abby and island up by a shuttle tunnel, and water taxi service between town quay and island / or a tunnel shuttle both would work. When you sail into places like Rio Harbour what is it the gives the place it wow factor, sail into California bay and again what gives it wow factor, portsmoth harbour, sail up the river Avon into Bristol old docks, or sail up the river severn, Sydney harbour, these all have the wow factor and its because of the location. One of my pass suggestions way to build a suspension bridge down river connecting up say Hamble with south Hythe, but a few moan about shipping and like I pointed out they could still pass under, these people have never been across Dartford suspension bridge it is that high any shipping could pass under it on any tide and this bridge take off points are only a foot or 2 above sea level, here we would have the avantage of the river valley hill top as a take off point. People just don't think, they see some thing and say lets build it and wonder why its a flop later on like the Sea Museum nice idea wrong location southy
  • Score: -8

10:13am Wed 25 Jun 14

one in a million says...

watermark sounds like Leisure world MK2 (AKA lager world).
watermark sounds like Leisure world MK2 (AKA lager world). one in a million
  • Score: 5

10:15am Wed 25 Jun 14

Rhombus says...

RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
Dock gate 4 road improvements : people moan
Weston riverside development: people moan
ikea : people moan
watermark development : people moan
central station development : people moan
Student flat next to mayflower : people moan
Cultural Quarter: people moan

i Don't think there are as many active projects in Portsmouth,Bournemou

th and Brighton combined.

There are so many things happening in Southampton but people on these forums always find something negative. I agree that like every city we could want for something extra. But why cant people support the momentum. The Biggest thing that holds back Southampton and the surrounding area's are these negative nimbys in their ivory towers. Ask any independent business owner and they will tell you the same thing. Still love the place i call home. Just to many small village thinkers. We should have an international airport. Faster train service to London. encouraging London centric people to live in Southampton for lower cost of living but work in London on London salaries. these people will then invest money and diversity into Southampton. Create a monorail from hythe to woolston and extend the boundaries of the city to include eastleigh and waterside. this will ensure planning is more consistant and services like transport are better coordinated. Time to think big!
Trouble is mate and I am willing to bet most people are over 50 years old. "Oh Southampton used to be so much better..blahh blahh blahh Ice rink blah blah blah, oooh ugly student blocks ." I say take away the shopping centres , take away the supermarkets and remove all students. I half hope they build the Biomass plant now just to really polish them off.
[quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: Dock gate 4 road improvements : people moan Weston riverside development: people moan ikea : people moan watermark development : people moan central station development : people moan Student flat next to mayflower : people moan Cultural Quarter: people moan i Don't think there are as many active projects in Portsmouth,Bournemou th and Brighton combined. There are so many things happening in Southampton but people on these forums always find something negative. I agree that like every city we could want for something extra. But why cant people support the momentum. The Biggest thing that holds back Southampton and the surrounding area's are these negative nimbys in their ivory towers. Ask any independent business owner and they will tell you the same thing. Still love the place i call home. Just to many small village thinkers. We should have an international airport. Faster train service to London. encouraging London centric people to live in Southampton for lower cost of living but work in London on London salaries. these people will then invest money and diversity into Southampton. Create a monorail from hythe to woolston and extend the boundaries of the city to include eastleigh and waterside. this will ensure planning is more consistant and services like transport are better coordinated. Time to think big![/p][/quote]Trouble is mate and I am willing to bet most people are over 50 years old. "Oh Southampton used to be so much better..blahh blahh blahh Ice rink blah blah blah, oooh ugly student blocks ." I say take away the shopping centres , take away the supermarkets and remove all students. I half hope they build the Biomass plant now just to really polish them off. Rhombus
  • Score: -2

10:16am Wed 25 Jun 14

Rhombus says...

one in a million wrote:
watermark sounds like Leisure world MK2 (AKA lager world).
without the free parking and more expensive. Oooh wave machine!
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: watermark sounds like Leisure world MK2 (AKA lager world).[/p][/quote]without the free parking and more expensive. Oooh wave machine! Rhombus
  • Score: 2

10:16am Wed 25 Jun 14

alanjones_4@msn.com says...

Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Sholingista wrote:
Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place
Racist moron.
Wouldn't say I was a moron.....
Yep, i would.
[quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sholingista[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place[/p][/quote]Racist moron.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't say I was a moron.....[/p][/quote]Yep, i would. alanjones_4@msn.com
  • Score: -1

10:17am Wed 25 Jun 14

Richard 51 says...

I think the money should be used to fill all the pot holes first
I think the money should be used to fill all the pot holes first Richard 51
  • Score: 1

10:29am Wed 25 Jun 14

Millie0505 says...

Hmmmmmm... Do we really need more eating and shopping venues in southampton? Would we not benefit from a sports/concert/youth venue? Something that EVERYONE can benefit from making use of? It's all same old same old and to be quite honest I find southampton slipping into obscurity for this very reason! We have a huge generation of youngsters that desperately need leisure facilities, my daughter is a wonderful ice skater and she is one of many many youngsters that would definitely make use of a multi sports venue, ice rink, and music/concert venue. Are we not continuously told our children are becoming obese and losing the basic social skills to allow them to make their mark and achieve their life's goals? Are we not starting to lose touch with what is needed to ensure a thriving city, not what we have at the moment, I have to take my children out of southampton for activities and sports that they take part in because there is just nothing here! I know a lot of people that enjoy a good shop and bite to eat are going to argue with my points here but let's be honest, everybody complains that our youngsters are bored and troubled and have no **** for life or goals for the future, well what do you expect? everything in these plans shows a complete lack of imagination!! There is a big space begging for a new big thing, and a big new generation of youngsters begging for something big!!! Give it to them!!! This is going to be a huge expensive mistake and everybody knows it apart from the people involved in making this happen, open your eyes and look around, you are missing a great opportunity here! Imagine the jobs and visitors it would pull in x
Hmmmmmm... Do we really need more eating and shopping venues in southampton? Would we not benefit from a sports/concert/youth venue? Something that EVERYONE can benefit from making use of? It's all same old same old and to be quite honest I find southampton slipping into obscurity for this very reason! We have a huge generation of youngsters that desperately need leisure facilities, my daughter is a wonderful ice skater and she is one of many many youngsters that would definitely make use of a multi sports venue, ice rink, and music/concert venue. Are we not continuously told our children are becoming obese and losing the basic social skills to allow them to make their mark and achieve their life's goals? Are we not starting to lose touch with what is needed to ensure a thriving city, not what we have at the moment, I have to take my children out of southampton for activities and sports that they take part in because there is just nothing here! I know a lot of people that enjoy a good shop and bite to eat are going to argue with my points here but let's be honest, everybody complains that our youngsters are bored and troubled and have no **** for life or goals for the future, well what do you expect? everything in these plans shows a complete lack of imagination!! There is a big space begging for a new big thing, and a big new generation of youngsters begging for something big!!! Give it to them!!! This is going to be a huge expensive mistake and everybody knows it apart from the people involved in making this happen, open your eyes and look around, you are missing a great opportunity here! Imagine the jobs and visitors it would pull in x Millie0505
  • Score: 13

10:40am Wed 25 Jun 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Richard 51 says...
I think the money should be used to fill all the pot holes first .....
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As this is mainly PRIVATE money can you explain how or why Hammerson should spend £millions on repairing Public roads ....... !!! ....... ????
Richard 51 says... I think the money should be used to fill all the pot holes first ..... . As this is mainly PRIVATE money can you explain how or why Hammerson should spend £millions on repairing Public roads ....... !!! ....... ???? Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 6

10:45am Wed 25 Jun 14

imspacedout says...

ALL WE WANT IS AN ICE RINK! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
ALL WE WANT IS AN ICE RINK! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW imspacedout
  • Score: -3

12:20pm Wed 25 Jun 14

shirlski says...

What's there to debate? If these three projects actually come to fruition then great! I see that the land in Woolston that was supposed to become home to high-end boat builders and a hotel to name but two pipe dreams is being touted for sale. Centenary Quay has gone through so many revamps to end up a total hotch-potch of social housing, rabbit hutch 'first time' homes and supposedly luxury flats...no long term work providers though.
What's there to debate? If these three projects actually come to fruition then great! I see that the land in Woolston that was supposed to become home to high-end boat builders and a hotel to name but two pipe dreams is being touted for sale. Centenary Quay has gone through so many revamps to end up a total hotch-potch of social housing, rabbit hutch 'first time' homes and supposedly luxury flats...no long term work providers though. shirlski
  • Score: 6

12:36pm Wed 25 Jun 14

forest hump says...

A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?
A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope? forest hump
  • Score: 5

1:05pm Wed 25 Jun 14

THEKILLER says...

A wasted opportunity we don't need a new Cinema, I went to the Cinema for the first time in a long time on Sunday and there were 4 others there!!
No one is going to go into the City just to eat, you have to have something to entice customers into the City
We (and most people we know) travel to the BIC, sometimes to Bristol, Brighton, even Birmingham for days out, concerts, all spend money on food and drink which if we had something to go to in Southampton would be spent in the City (can't remember the last time I spent any money in a city pub or restaurant)
A wasted opportunity we don't need a new Cinema, I went to the Cinema for the first time in a long time on Sunday and there were 4 others there!! No one is going to go into the City just to eat, you have to have something to entice customers into the City We (and most people we know) travel to the BIC, sometimes to Bristol, Brighton, even Birmingham for days out, concerts, all spend money on food and drink which if we had something to go to in Southampton would be spent in the City (can't remember the last time I spent any money in a city pub or restaurant) THEKILLER
  • Score: 7

1:14pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Rhombus says...

One things for certain here folks. the time for debate is OVER! Its happening.
One things for certain here folks. the time for debate is OVER! Its happening. Rhombus
  • Score: 1

2:41pm Wed 25 Jun 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?
This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton.
Come think about it.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?[/p][/quote]This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton. Come think about it. southy
  • Score: -6

3:42pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Cyber__Fug says...

southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?
This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton.
Come think about it.
you moan when the council spends money, you moan when they dont spend money, you moan when a company does well, you moan and deny when the country come out of recession..... is there anything happy in your little world (apart from the TUSC but even they asked you not to stand as you were embarrassing them). Do as Paramjit says and stop bl00dy moaning.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?[/p][/quote]This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton. Come think about it.[/p][/quote]you moan when the council spends money, you moan when they dont spend money, you moan when a company does well, you moan and deny when the country come out of recession..... is there anything happy in your little world (apart from the TUSC but even they asked you not to stand as you were embarrassing them). Do as Paramjit says and stop bl00dy moaning. Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 8

4:09pm Wed 25 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

It is such a shame that the Spitfire Monument has to be entirely charity funded. They won't do it. They'll probably raise a few grand at best but that will be it. Don't get me wrong I'd absolutely love to see it go up, but I somehow think this will be the next 'ice rink saga'. Watermark is the only one the Council truly care about. Whilst a lot of people including myself fail to understand just why we need a fourth cinema in about half a mile or so (Showcase Cinema de Lux this time) and ask just why the City Centre needs a whopping 20 new restaurants when given all the other developments include them it gets to a point when you have to ask just how many restaurants can this City take? Surely some will close down as a result? A multi-purpose venue like the BIC would have been great as that would have drawn people in from afar- something no cinema, bowling alley or restaurant is capable of.
It is such a shame that the Spitfire Monument has to be entirely charity funded. They won't do it. They'll probably raise a few grand at best but that will be it. Don't get me wrong I'd absolutely love to see it go up, but I somehow think this will be the next 'ice rink saga'. Watermark is the only one the Council truly care about. Whilst a lot of people including myself fail to understand just why we need a fourth cinema in about half a mile or so (Showcase Cinema de Lux this time) and ask just why the City Centre needs a whopping 20 new restaurants when given all the other developments include them it gets to a point when you have to ask just how many restaurants can this City take? Surely some will close down as a result? A multi-purpose venue like the BIC would have been great as that would have drawn people in from afar- something no cinema, bowling alley or restaurant is capable of. 03alpe01
  • Score: -2

4:22pm Wed 25 Jun 14

loosehead says...

So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this. loosehead
  • Score: 0

4:25pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Nearly an OAP says...

And I thought that Southampton was deep in debt, but (with sponsorship) the silly season has generated some crazy ideas and planning approval. We've seen it all before and when the Council tax is dramatically increased next year because of the follies of this "Council" the arguments will start all over again.
And I thought that Southampton was deep in debt, but (with sponsorship) the silly season has generated some crazy ideas and planning approval. We've seen it all before and when the Council tax is dramatically increased next year because of the follies of this "Council" the arguments will start all over again. Nearly an OAP
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

imspacedout wrote:
ALL WE WANT IS AN ICE RINK! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
Chances of somebody building ice rink for you are less than bare minimum but you can go water skiing now
[quote][p][bold]imspacedout[/bold] wrote: ALL WE WANT IS AN ICE RINK! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW[/p][/quote]Chances of somebody building ice rink for you are less than bare minimum but you can go water skiing now Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 2

4:53pm Wed 25 Jun 14

southy says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?
This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton.
Come think about it.
you moan when the council spends money, you moan when they dont spend money, you moan when a company does well, you moan and deny when the country come out of recession..... is there anything happy in your little world (apart from the TUSC but even they asked you not to stand as you were embarrassing them). Do as Paramjit says and stop bl00dy moaning.
Cyber I don't moan when the council spend money on the right things, like i was not against the Sea Musium, I was against the location and it proved that I was right, unlike your self who thought it was a prefect place to have a Sea Musium and was proved to be wrong.
And you still believe that lie that was put about or was it you that started that lie about me not standing in the election this year, I stood down and Paramjit can confirm that.
Spend money in the right directions and in the right places and not like it is now.
Now we got that clear this statue is ok and what I am saying get the bloody location right for it to be a success, get it in the wrong location and you have another white elephant on your hands just like the sea musium. Good Icons can be seen all the way round and thats what gives them the wow factor
That is not moaning that is using your head.
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?[/p][/quote]This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton. Come think about it.[/p][/quote]you moan when the council spends money, you moan when they dont spend money, you moan when a company does well, you moan and deny when the country come out of recession..... is there anything happy in your little world (apart from the TUSC but even they asked you not to stand as you were embarrassing them). Do as Paramjit says and stop bl00dy moaning.[/p][/quote]Cyber I don't moan when the council spend money on the right things, like i was not against the Sea Musium, I was against the location and it proved that I was right, unlike your self who thought it was a prefect place to have a Sea Musium and was proved to be wrong. And you still believe that lie that was put about or was it you that started that lie about me not standing in the election this year, I stood down and Paramjit can confirm that. Spend money in the right directions and in the right places and not like it is now. Now we got that clear this statue is ok and what I am saying get the bloody location right for it to be a success, get it in the wrong location and you have another white elephant on your hands just like the sea musium. Good Icons can be seen all the way round and thats what gives them the wow factor That is not moaning that is using your head. southy
  • Score: -3

5:37pm Wed 25 Jun 14

phil maccavity says...

03alpe01 wrote:
It is such a shame that the Spitfire Monument has to be entirely charity funded. They won't do it. They'll probably raise a few grand at best but that will be it. Don't get me wrong I'd absolutely love to see it go up, but I somehow think this will be the next 'ice rink saga'. Watermark is the only one the Council truly care about. Whilst a lot of people including myself fail to understand just why we need a fourth cinema in about half a mile or so (Showcase Cinema de Lux this time) and ask just why the City Centre needs a whopping 20 new restaurants when given all the other developments include them it gets to a point when you have to ask just how many restaurants can this City take? Surely some will close down as a result? A multi-purpose venue like the BIC would have been great as that would have drawn people in from afar- something no cinema, bowling alley or restaurant is capable of.
I agree with you that, unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that enough money will be raised to finance the Spitfire Monument.
I also question the benefit of another cinema and restaurants and would personally prefer to see a Multi Purpose venue or even an Ice Rink.
However such facilities should not be funded by the Council unless the majority of Soton rate payers are prepared to pay for the privilege.
Most people would have forecast the Maritime Museum being an albatross round the city's neck for the foreseeable future and it is likely that very few would wish to see a repetition of this folly.
The fact of life is that any development in the city has to rely on private capital (as this area does not benefit from generous UK or EC funding) and this will follow expected demand and ROC
Presumably, therefore, such things as cinemas, retail, food outlets, flats, student accommodation etc etc are the preferred areas for investors to obtain a suitable return on their investments and, as a by product, provide additional income for the Council to pay for essential services
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: It is such a shame that the Spitfire Monument has to be entirely charity funded. They won't do it. They'll probably raise a few grand at best but that will be it. Don't get me wrong I'd absolutely love to see it go up, but I somehow think this will be the next 'ice rink saga'. Watermark is the only one the Council truly care about. Whilst a lot of people including myself fail to understand just why we need a fourth cinema in about half a mile or so (Showcase Cinema de Lux this time) and ask just why the City Centre needs a whopping 20 new restaurants when given all the other developments include them it gets to a point when you have to ask just how many restaurants can this City take? Surely some will close down as a result? A multi-purpose venue like the BIC would have been great as that would have drawn people in from afar- something no cinema, bowling alley or restaurant is capable of.[/p][/quote]I agree with you that, unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that enough money will be raised to finance the Spitfire Monument. I also question the benefit of another cinema and restaurants and would personally prefer to see a Multi Purpose venue or even an Ice Rink. However such facilities should not be funded by the Council unless the majority of Soton rate payers are prepared to pay for the privilege. Most people would have forecast the Maritime Museum being an albatross round the city's neck for the foreseeable future and it is likely that very few would wish to see a repetition of this folly. The fact of life is that any development in the city has to rely on private capital (as this area does not benefit from generous UK or EC funding) and this will follow expected demand and ROC Presumably, therefore, such things as cinemas, retail, food outlets, flats, student accommodation etc etc are the preferred areas for investors to obtain a suitable return on their investments and, as a by product, provide additional income for the Council to pay for essential services phil maccavity
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill. Linesman
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Wed 25 Jun 14

forest hump says...

southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?
This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton.
Come think about it.
Tourist attraction..think? Travel cost...think? Who from the Waterside wants to go to Hamble? If they want to go beyond, how would Hamble Lane cope with the alleged extra traffic? Who would finance the 500-1billion cost (estimate but probably reality) Perhaps it is you that should give it a thought rather than blather on with complete and utter nonsense. Still, why change a habit of a lifetime?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?[/p][/quote]This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton. Come think about it.[/p][/quote]Tourist attraction..think? Travel cost...think? Who from the Waterside wants to go to Hamble? If they want to go beyond, how would Hamble Lane cope with the alleged extra traffic? Who would finance the 500-1billion cost (estimate but probably reality) Perhaps it is you that should give it a thought rather than blather on with complete and utter nonsense. Still, why change a habit of a lifetime? forest hump
  • Score: 7

7:36pm Wed 25 Jun 14

southamptonadi says...

mr.southampton wrote:
Really hope that tacky Spitfire doesn't get off the ground. Why can't we look to the future instead of the past. Look how the spinnaker tower acts as a landmark in Pompey. A silver replica of the HMS victory wouldn't be the same.
Why would Portsmouth City council ever build a silver replica of the HMS victory when they have the REAL one sat there already
[quote][p][bold]mr.southampton[/bold] wrote: Really hope that tacky Spitfire doesn't get off the ground. Why can't we look to the future instead of the past. Look how the spinnaker tower acts as a landmark in Pompey. A silver replica of the HMS victory wouldn't be the same.[/p][/quote]Why would Portsmouth City council ever build a silver replica of the HMS victory when they have the REAL one sat there already southamptonadi
  • Score: 2

7:45pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Linesman says...

Linesman wrote:
When the Sea City Museum was 'sold to the public', we were told that it would not be a cost to the city's council tax payers.

Wikipedia reveals that it cost the council tax payers £10, and in the first two years attracted 23% fewer visitors that the city's 'experts' had predicted, falling short of the number needed to 'break even.'

If this goes ahead, it must be financed by grants and donations, and NOT be another drain on the city's finances, with the money in place before the first stone is laid.

The City Council should learn from previous mistakes.
That should, of course, read '..........cost the council tax payers £10 million, and in the.......'
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: When the Sea City Museum was 'sold to the public', we were told that it would not be a cost to the city's council tax payers. Wikipedia reveals that it cost the council tax payers £10, and in the first two years attracted 23% fewer visitors that the city's 'experts' had predicted, falling short of the number needed to 'break even.' If this goes ahead, it must be financed by grants and donations, and NOT be another drain on the city's finances, with the money in place before the first stone is laid. The City Council should learn from previous mistakes.[/p][/quote]That should, of course, read '..........cost the council tax payers £10 million, and in the.......' Linesman
  • Score: -1

7:59pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Shoong says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous? Shoong
  • Score: 0

8:09pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ......
.
Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ...... . Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -2

9:08pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Linesman says...

Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep. Linesman
  • Score: 0

9:19pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Shoong says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ......
.
Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative
If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one.

Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ...... . Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative[/p][/quote]If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one. Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded. Shoong
  • Score: 3

9:19pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Shoong says...

Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.
Refuse to pay your council tax then - please.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.[/p][/quote]Refuse to pay your council tax then - please. Shoong
  • Score: 1

9:36pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

alanjones_4@msn.com wrote:
Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Sholingista wrote:
Harold K Steptoe wrote:
Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place
Racist moron.
Wouldn't say I was a moron.....
Yep, i would.
Yeah ok, your wife don't think so....
[quote][p][bold]alanjones_4@msn.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sholingista[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: Spend an hour doing the 5 mile drive and a fortune on parking......no thanks. The Poles are welcome to the place[/p][/quote]Racist moron.[/p][/quote]Wouldn't say I was a moron.....[/p][/quote]Yep, i would.[/p][/quote]Yeah ok, your wife don't think so.... Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: 2

10:45pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Kirsty666 says...

Richard 51 wrote:
I think the money should be used to fill all the pot holes first
Hammersons are a private company so good luck on them spending £70 million on WestQuay (yes it's right there is no space) the Spitfire is unlikely to happen as they need to raise £3.5 million I'd rather something like the London Eye or Spinnaker Tower
[quote][p][bold]Richard 51[/bold] wrote: I think the money should be used to fill all the pot holes first[/p][/quote]Hammersons are a private company so good luck on them spending £70 million on WestQuay (yes it's right there is no space) the Spitfire is unlikely to happen as they need to raise £3.5 million I'd rather something like the London Eye or Spinnaker Tower Kirsty666
  • Score: 2

11:03pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Linesman says...

Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ......
.
Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative
If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one.

Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded.
Pathetic!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ...... . Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative[/p][/quote]If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one. Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded.[/p][/quote]Pathetic! Linesman
  • Score: -1

11:03pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Linesman says...

Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ......
.
Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative
If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one.

Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded.
Pathetic!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ...... . Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative[/p][/quote]If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one. Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded.[/p][/quote]Pathetic! Linesman
  • Score: -1

11:05pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Linesman says...

Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.
Refuse to pay your council tax then - please.
I pay my taxes because I am not a law-breaker and do not take advice from people who encourage others to break the law.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.[/p][/quote]Refuse to pay your council tax then - please.[/p][/quote]I pay my taxes because I am not a law-breaker and do not take advice from people who encourage others to break the law. Linesman
  • Score: -2

11:27pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Home Rule for England says...

So does that mean we are not going to get the replacement for the lido which was promised when the New Central Baths opened in 1962? It was to be built between what is now the Quays and West Quay shopping centre?
So does that mean we are not going to get the replacement for the lido which was promised when the New Central Baths opened in 1962? It was to be built between what is now the Quays and West Quay shopping centre? Home Rule for England
  • Score: 0

12:32am Thu 26 Jun 14

pomdownunder says...

Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol
Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol pomdownunder
  • Score: 0

1:08am Thu 26 Jun 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?
This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton.
Come think about it.
Tourist attraction..think? Travel cost...think? Who from the Waterside wants to go to Hamble? If they want to go beyond, how would Hamble Lane cope with the alleged extra traffic? Who would finance the 500-1billion cost (estimate but probably reality) Perhaps it is you that should give it a thought rather than blather on with complete and utter nonsense. Still, why change a habit of a lifetime?
You think harder try looking at maps for a start, when I say hamble or south hythe its rough area it don't have to be spot on, it could cross to hook side of the hamble. and your still not thinking, The Golden Gate Bridge attracts over 1/2 million tourist each year, it as that wow factor. Who would use the bridge loads you have all those on new forest side who have business in the pompey area and the other way round, you would also have holiday makers crossing, putting a bridge down there would take alot of traffic out of Southampton, Heres some thing for you to think about every 5 years fawley as the cat turnaround that employs around 2000 people which most come from the other side of the river itchen and as far away as Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: A bridge between Hythe and Hamble? He has totally lost it!! What is the economic benefit, who will finance it and how would the infrastructure cope?[/p][/quote]This what i am on about lack of imagination, benefits of economics would be less distance to travel so cutting down on cost, and with comes less polution, it would also be a tourist attraction, infrastructure would benefit in Southampton by less traffic cutting though Southampton. Come think about it.[/p][/quote]Tourist attraction..think? Travel cost...think? Who from the Waterside wants to go to Hamble? If they want to go beyond, how would Hamble Lane cope with the alleged extra traffic? Who would finance the 500-1billion cost (estimate but probably reality) Perhaps it is you that should give it a thought rather than blather on with complete and utter nonsense. Still, why change a habit of a lifetime?[/p][/quote]You think harder try looking at maps for a start, when I say hamble or south hythe its rough area it don't have to be spot on, it could cross to hook side of the hamble. and your still not thinking, The Golden Gate Bridge attracts over 1/2 million tourist each year, it as that wow factor. Who would use the bridge loads you have all those on new forest side who have business in the pompey area and the other way round, you would also have holiday makers crossing, putting a bridge down there would take alot of traffic out of Southampton, Heres some thing for you to think about every 5 years fawley as the cat turnaround that employs around 2000 people which most come from the other side of the river itchen and as far away as Brighton. southy
  • Score: -1

1:10am Thu 26 Jun 14

southy says...

There a number of things you can do to get that wow factor, but its no good if its located in the wrong spot, if you get the location right thenit will pay for it self, get it wrong and its a white elephant.
There a number of things you can do to get that wow factor, but its no good if its located in the wrong spot, if you get the location right thenit will pay for it self, get it wrong and its a white elephant. southy
  • Score: -2

1:38am Thu 26 Jun 14

03alpe01 says...

phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
It is such a shame that the Spitfire Monument has to be entirely charity funded. They won't do it. They'll probably raise a few grand at best but that will be it. Don't get me wrong I'd absolutely love to see it go up, but I somehow think this will be the next 'ice rink saga'. Watermark is the only one the Council truly care about. Whilst a lot of people including myself fail to understand just why we need a fourth cinema in about half a mile or so (Showcase Cinema de Lux this time) and ask just why the City Centre needs a whopping 20 new restaurants when given all the other developments include them it gets to a point when you have to ask just how many restaurants can this City take? Surely some will close down as a result? A multi-purpose venue like the BIC would have been great as that would have drawn people in from afar- something no cinema, bowling alley or restaurant is capable of.
I agree with you that, unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that enough money will be raised to finance the Spitfire Monument.
I also question the benefit of another cinema and restaurants and would personally prefer to see a Multi Purpose venue or even an Ice Rink.
However such facilities should not be funded by the Council unless the majority of Soton rate payers are prepared to pay for the privilege.
Most people would have forecast the Maritime Museum being an albatross round the city's neck for the foreseeable future and it is likely that very few would wish to see a repetition of this folly.
The fact of life is that any development in the city has to rely on private capital (as this area does not benefit from generous UK or EC funding) and this will follow expected demand and ROC
Presumably, therefore, such things as cinemas, retail, food outlets, flats, student accommodation etc etc are the preferred areas for investors to obtain a suitable return on their investments and, as a by product, provide additional income for the Council to pay for essential services
It is a real shame that the Spitfire monument has to be funded in this way. If it was in Liverpool or anywhere up North then it would have had grant money chucked at it like nobodies business. We need a proper fitting tribute to the Spitfire and this would have been it, but unfortunately now there's like a 0.1% chance of it being built. Another cinema is just about the most stupidest thing they could have put there, especially when as you say we are in need of other venues such as a multi-purpose venue/ice rink. All it would take would be a developer willing to take a bit of a risk. But in such economic struggle they play it safe every time.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: It is such a shame that the Spitfire Monument has to be entirely charity funded. They won't do it. They'll probably raise a few grand at best but that will be it. Don't get me wrong I'd absolutely love to see it go up, but I somehow think this will be the next 'ice rink saga'. Watermark is the only one the Council truly care about. Whilst a lot of people including myself fail to understand just why we need a fourth cinema in about half a mile or so (Showcase Cinema de Lux this time) and ask just why the City Centre needs a whopping 20 new restaurants when given all the other developments include them it gets to a point when you have to ask just how many restaurants can this City take? Surely some will close down as a result? A multi-purpose venue like the BIC would have been great as that would have drawn people in from afar- something no cinema, bowling alley or restaurant is capable of.[/p][/quote]I agree with you that, unfortunately, it is highly unlikely that enough money will be raised to finance the Spitfire Monument. I also question the benefit of another cinema and restaurants and would personally prefer to see a Multi Purpose venue or even an Ice Rink. However such facilities should not be funded by the Council unless the majority of Soton rate payers are prepared to pay for the privilege. Most people would have forecast the Maritime Museum being an albatross round the city's neck for the foreseeable future and it is likely that very few would wish to see a repetition of this folly. The fact of life is that any development in the city has to rely on private capital (as this area does not benefit from generous UK or EC funding) and this will follow expected demand and ROC Presumably, therefore, such things as cinemas, retail, food outlets, flats, student accommodation etc etc are the preferred areas for investors to obtain a suitable return on their investments and, as a by product, provide additional income for the Council to pay for essential services[/p][/quote]It is a real shame that the Spitfire monument has to be funded in this way. If it was in Liverpool or anywhere up North then it would have had grant money chucked at it like nobodies business. We need a proper fitting tribute to the Spitfire and this would have been it, but unfortunately now there's like a 0.1% chance of it being built. Another cinema is just about the most stupidest thing they could have put there, especially when as you say we are in need of other venues such as a multi-purpose venue/ice rink. All it would take would be a developer willing to take a bit of a risk. But in such economic struggle they play it safe every time. 03alpe01
  • Score: -1

6:44am Thu 26 Jun 14

sophisticated says...

Southampton has no character. No matter what you do you cant polish it.
Southampton has no character. No matter what you do you cant polish it. sophisticated
  • Score: 3

8:01am Thu 26 Jun 14

Lone Ranger. says...

What a pity you still contribute nothing apart from your usual pathetic retoric.
.
Go on have a go with something creative ...... there is always a "first time for eveything" .... it would be a change from your schoolboy tactics.
.
Although ...... perhaps your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others
What a pity you still contribute nothing apart from your usual pathetic retoric. . Go on have a go with something creative ...... there is always a "first time for eveything" .... it would be a change from your schoolboy tactics. . Although ...... perhaps your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -2

8:35am Thu 26 Jun 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking. FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: -2

9:19am Thu 26 Jun 14

Linesman says...

pomdownunder wrote:
Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol
I hope that you do not consider my posts to be negative, because they are, in fact, Positive.

I am POSITIVE that the Spitfire should be commemorated in the city.

I am also POSITIVE that it should NOT be a burden on the city's council tax payers, who have already been lumbered with the massive cost of paying for, and maintaining the Sea City White Elephant.

We have been told that this project will be paid for by public donations.

I maintain that the money should be in place, and promises of money should be guaranteed, before the first spade-full of soil is dug or brick laid.

I do not want to see it run out of cash when half completed, and the city faced with either a folly, or another massive bill.

That is my POSITIVE thought on the subject.
[quote][p][bold]pomdownunder[/bold] wrote: Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol[/p][/quote]I hope that you do not consider my posts to be negative, because they are, in fact, Positive. I am POSITIVE that the Spitfire should be commemorated in the city. I am also POSITIVE that it should NOT be a burden on the city's council tax payers, who have already been lumbered with the massive cost of paying for, and maintaining the Sea City White Elephant. We have been told that this project will be paid for by public donations. I maintain that the money should be in place, and promises of money should be guaranteed, before the first spade-full of soil is dug or brick laid. I do not want to see it run out of cash when half completed, and the city faced with either a folly, or another massive bill. That is my POSITIVE thought on the subject. Linesman
  • Score: -2

9:52am Thu 26 Jun 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

Home Rule for England wrote:
So does that mean we are not going to get the replacement for the lido which was promised when the New Central Baths opened in 1962? It was to be built between what is now the Quays and West Quay shopping centre?
I'd much prefer a lido to an ice rink and I wonder whether someone with a bit of creativity and imagination couldn't site this on the Common, one of our central parks or even - a bit more adventurously - somewhere like Weston Shore.
[quote][p][bold]Home Rule for England[/bold] wrote: So does that mean we are not going to get the replacement for the lido which was promised when the New Central Baths opened in 1962? It was to be built between what is now the Quays and West Quay shopping centre?[/p][/quote]I'd much prefer a lido to an ice rink and I wonder whether someone with a bit of creativity and imagination couldn't site this on the Common, one of our central parks or even - a bit more adventurously - somewhere like Weston Shore. FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: 1

10:26am Thu 26 Jun 14

southy says...

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.
That is what a lot on here don't have Foys
[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.[/p][/quote]That is what a lot on here don't have Foys southy
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Thu 26 Jun 14

lowe esteem says...

pomdownunder wrote:
Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol
Does make you more cynical, though, doesn't it?

So, in the spirit of the 'enlightened' architects and designers let loose on our capital, let's come up with our Southampton City Council / charity shop 'wow factor' names then:

Perhaps The Spit, The Spitoon and the S*it and Sawdust in that order.
[quote][p][bold]pomdownunder[/bold] wrote: Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol[/p][/quote]Does make you more cynical, though, doesn't it? So, in the spirit of the 'enlightened' architects and designers let loose on our capital, let's come up with our Southampton City Council / charity shop 'wow factor' names then: Perhaps The Spit, The Spitoon and the S*it and Sawdust in that order. lowe esteem
  • Score: -1

6:27pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Halo Saint says...

I personally cant wait for the centre to be built.I think im going to have a great time walking around a deserted shopping mall after 6 months of opening & finding out i have been charged x amount of pounds to park for an hour !! We dont need more Cinemas we dont need more restaurants WE NEED THINGS FOR THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON !! An Ice Rink would be a great start.a place for families to go to do indoor activities such as rock climbing...super slides..etc..even way out west had the rodeo bull !! And it shouldnt cost an arm & a leg to do these things !! BUT i think i know the councils long term plans....move the whole of the high street into the new centre then DEMOLISH ALL BUILDINGS TO BUILD FLATS & HOUSES !!!
I personally cant wait for the centre to be built.I think im going to have a great time walking around a deserted shopping mall after 6 months of opening & finding out i have been charged x amount of pounds to park for an hour !! We dont need more Cinemas we dont need more restaurants WE NEED THINGS FOR THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON !! An Ice Rink would be a great start.a place for families to go to do indoor activities such as rock climbing...super slides..etc..even way out west had the rodeo bull !! And it shouldnt cost an arm & a leg to do these things !! BUT i think i know the councils long term plans....move the whole of the high street into the new centre then DEMOLISH ALL BUILDINGS TO BUILD FLATS & HOUSES !!! Halo Saint
  • Score: -1

9:24pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Shoong says...

Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.
Refuse to pay your council tax then - please.
I pay my taxes because I am not a law-breaker and do not take advice from people who encourage others to break the law.
Shame - in the slammer I think it's only 30 minutes internet privileges a week.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.[/p][/quote]Refuse to pay your council tax then - please.[/p][/quote]I pay my taxes because I am not a law-breaker and do not take advice from people who encourage others to break the law.[/p][/quote]Shame - in the slammer I think it's only 30 minutes internet privileges a week. Shoong
  • Score: 0

9:26pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Shoong says...

Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ......
.
Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative
If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one.

Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded.
Pathetic!
Sp pathetic you couldn't help yourself posting a follow up reply.

SCC thanks you for your valued contributions to the Sea City Museum.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered adding to the debate ...... instead your continual nit picking everyone else's post ...... . Perhaps a contribution from you would be an education ...... if only to prove that you do posess a part of a brain ...... albeit uncreative[/p][/quote]If only I had the intellect and wit of yourself I could conjure up boring responses like this one. Trying to be a condescending smart ar5e - you have succeeded.[/p][/quote]Pathetic![/p][/quote]Sp pathetic you couldn't help yourself posting a follow up reply. SCC thanks you for your valued contributions to the Sea City Museum. Shoong
  • Score: 0

9:31pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.
That is what a lot on here don't have Foys
Modest as always Peter

Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.[/p][/quote]That is what a lot on here don't have Foys[/p][/quote]Modest as always Peter Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer. Shoong
  • Score: 0

9:41pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.
That is what a lot on here don't have Foys
Modest as always Peter

Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.
Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ...
.
Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.[/p][/quote]That is what a lot on here don't have Foys[/p][/quote]Modest as always Peter Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.[/p][/quote]Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ... . Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 3

10:50pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Linesman says...

Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is.
Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas?
When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower.
I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.
What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted.

If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.
Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?
NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.
Refuse to pay your council tax then - please.
I pay my taxes because I am not a law-breaker and do not take advice from people who encourage others to break the law.
Shame - in the slammer I think it's only 30 minutes internet privileges a week.
You could well be correct under this Tory-led government/

It ran it's election campaign promising to be tough on crime, and what have we got?

More 'lifers' than you can shake a stick at, going walk-abouts from open prisons.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So more cinemas? So if Leisure world goes down the pan I wonder if this site with no historic walls could be turned into a combined bus & coach station leisure world's site that is. Or is there a big enough catchment for Leisure World Cinemas as well as the new cinemas? When my Party proposed the spitfire statue I said then it wasn't ambitious enough & I said something was needed to rival the spinnaker tower. I also said maybe a large construct of the spitfire flying horizontally(level) on several stands with a restaurant & viewing tower internally would be a great crowd puller whilst celebrating Southamptons proud links with the Spitfire so I'm not very keen on this.[/p][/quote]What we cannot have is another expensive White Elephant like the Sea City Museum. Royston Smith was determined to have a prestige project to reflect his period as Leader of the City Council. This went ahead without the promised funding in place, and it cost the city's council tax payers £10m to build, and they are now footing a percentage of the running costs, because the attendances and consequential revenue, is not as high as predicted. If this monument is to move from the drawing board, the funding has to not only be in place, but assurances received that, if there is a cost over-run, the City Council tax payers will not be left to foot the bill.[/p][/quote]Have you ever considered enrolling for Sea Museum Anonymous?[/p][/quote]NO. I have an allergy to White Elephants, and also to paying for their upkeep.[/p][/quote]Refuse to pay your council tax then - please.[/p][/quote]I pay my taxes because I am not a law-breaker and do not take advice from people who encourage others to break the law.[/p][/quote]Shame - in the slammer I think it's only 30 minutes internet privileges a week.[/p][/quote]You could well be correct under this Tory-led government/ It ran it's election campaign promising to be tough on crime, and what have we got? More 'lifers' than you can shake a stick at, going walk-abouts from open prisons. Linesman
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10:51pm Thu 26 Jun 14

pomdownunder says...

Linesman wrote:
pomdownunder wrote:
Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol
I hope that you do not consider my posts to be negative, because they are, in fact, Positive.

I am POSITIVE that the Spitfire should be commemorated in the city.

I am also POSITIVE that it should NOT be a burden on the city's council tax payers, who have already been lumbered with the massive cost of paying for, and maintaining the Sea City White Elephant.

We have been told that this project will be paid for by public donations.

I maintain that the money should be in place, and promises of money should be guaranteed, before the first spade-full of soil is dug or brick laid.

I do not want to see it run out of cash when half completed, and the city faced with either a folly, or another massive bill.

That is my POSITIVE thought on the subject.
Wow, Mr linesman, what's with the outburst?? I never once mentioned the Spitfire and as a matter of fact I would love to see something to recognise the history Southampton and the Spitfire have, my great grandfather worked on it's and it would be something to visit and show my kids when we come back for a visit. I never mentioned funding for anything either, I mearly said about all the negative comments that were being thrown around, but hey if you feel that I am directing that at you then that's your prerogative. Oh and by the way, I think your keyboard must be broken with all the CAPITAL letters thrown into your comment, or is that just you try to emphasis how POSITIVE you are being?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pomdownunder[/bold] wrote: Wow, seriously can't believe all the negativity about trying to revamp our city. I moved away from Southampton and the Uk 12 years ago now and on my last visit back a couple of years ago I was shocked at how shabby my gorgeous home city was looking. I can remember just before we left signing a petition to 'upgrade' and 'make good' Mayflower park then. They said work could be started on the park within 2 years, s'pose that never happened then! I'm not sure that Southampton really needs another cinema complex (agree on that one) and a nice rink would be a much better thing to build, a lot of people would use it as I can remember how busy the old one used to be. More eating places and shops are a great idea, especially if these places look out over the water. Again an out side lido (not proposed but people have mentioned it) maybe a bit far fetched too as Southampton doesn't have the weather for it, could be very busy two weeks of the year though! The Pier area needs a huge upgrade and why not look at something along the lines of the tower in Pompey, an Entertainment centre (for bands, shows, sports comps etc etc) or even something like an Eye......all the space along the water front could look glorious if the right things were done there and shops cafés and places to meet would all pull the money into our gorgeous city and make Southampton a major player again. instead of dissing any attempt to smarten Southampton up we should embrace it.........but maybe not with another cinema complex lol[/p][/quote]I hope that you do not consider my posts to be negative, because they are, in fact, Positive. I am POSITIVE that the Spitfire should be commemorated in the city. I am also POSITIVE that it should NOT be a burden on the city's council tax payers, who have already been lumbered with the massive cost of paying for, and maintaining the Sea City White Elephant. We have been told that this project will be paid for by public donations. I maintain that the money should be in place, and promises of money should be guaranteed, before the first spade-full of soil is dug or brick laid. I do not want to see it run out of cash when half completed, and the city faced with either a folly, or another massive bill. That is my POSITIVE thought on the subject.[/p][/quote]Wow, Mr linesman, what's with the outburst?? I never once mentioned the Spitfire and as a matter of fact I would love to see something to recognise the history Southampton and the Spitfire have, my great grandfather worked on it's and it would be something to visit and show my kids when we come back for a visit. I never mentioned funding for anything either, I mearly said about all the negative comments that were being thrown around, but hey if you feel that I am directing that at you then that's your prerogative. Oh and by the way, I think your keyboard must be broken with all the CAPITAL letters thrown into your comment, or is that just you try to emphasis how POSITIVE you are being? pomdownunder
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12:03am Fri 27 Jun 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.
That is what a lot on here don't have Foys
Modest as always Peter

Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.
Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ...
.
Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS
Lines people like Shoong love this dystopian society that we have they think its a game and some thing to joke about.

Martin Niemöller (1892-1984) said
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Communist, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Don't that sound like a lot of people on here, they treat it as a joke now but will they when it comes there turn and nothing can be done because there is no one left to fight for what is right.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.[/p][/quote]That is what a lot on here don't have Foys[/p][/quote]Modest as always Peter Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.[/p][/quote]Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ... . Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS[/p][/quote]Lines people like Shoong love this dystopian society that we have they think its a game and some thing to joke about. Martin Niemöller (1892-1984) said First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Communist, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me. Don't that sound like a lot of people on here, they treat it as a joke now but will they when it comes there turn and nothing can be done because there is no one left to fight for what is right. southy
  • Score: 1

2:44am Fri 27 Jun 14

WoolstonSean says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
Not a very plausible idea is it considering ships have to turn at dock head so they reverse down the to the Itchen quays and for vessels reversing off berths 38/39 turning at dock head.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]Not a very plausible idea is it considering ships have to turn at dock head so they reverse down the to the Itchen quays and for vessels reversing off berths 38/39 turning at dock head. WoolstonSean
  • Score: 0

1:56pm Fri 27 Jun 14

southy says...

WoolstonSean wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
Not a very plausible idea is it considering ships have to turn at dock head so they reverse down the to the Itchen quays and for vessels reversing off berths 38/39 turning at dock head.
Try where the old achorage ground use to be (well still is just not in use) off Nettley Abby, prefect location can be seen all the way round, and run a water taxi service to and from the island. Think about it you sail into New York Harbour and what is the first thing you can see.
[quote][p][bold]WoolstonSean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]Not a very plausible idea is it considering ships have to turn at dock head so they reverse down the to the Itchen quays and for vessels reversing off berths 38/39 turning at dock head.[/p][/quote]Try where the old achorage ground use to be (well still is just not in use) off Nettley Abby, prefect location can be seen all the way round, and run a water taxi service to and from the island. Think about it you sail into New York Harbour and what is the first thing you can see. southy
  • Score: 0

2:55pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Shoong says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.
That is what a lot on here don't have Foys
Modest as always Peter

Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.
Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ...
.
Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS
I've thumbed you 1 up - do you feel better now?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.[/p][/quote]That is what a lot on here don't have Foys[/p][/quote]Modest as always Peter Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.[/p][/quote]Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ... . Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS[/p][/quote]I've thumbed you 1 up - do you feel better now? Shoong
  • Score: -1

1:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.
don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head
I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.
That is what a lot on here don't have Foys
Modest as always Peter

Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.
Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ...
.
Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS
I've thumbed you 1 up - do you feel better now?
The problem is Shoong you have been proven wrong to many times over time, but then again I do want to improve things unlike you and others like your self like a dystopian society
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Excellent .... now lets get on and get it built.[/p][/quote]don't look to bad its passable, but like I above it would look great on a man made island in the River just off Dock Head[/p][/quote]I quite like this idea, Southy. Some genuine original thinking.[/p][/quote]That is what a lot on here don't have Foys[/p][/quote]Modest as always Peter Despite having achieved sweet FA in your original thinking which includes whacky conspiracy theories, believing your opinions to be factual despite being proved wrong numerous times and blaming the end of your short and ineffectual political on a dodgy capitalist printer.[/p][/quote]Hilarious ....... You give a "thumbs up" to yourself ..... what is about posters like you .... how ridiulous are you ... . Still i suppose you wouldnt get one from any other poster ....... PRICELESS[/p][/quote]I've thumbed you 1 up - do you feel better now?[/p][/quote]The problem is Shoong you have been proven wrong to many times over time, but then again I do want to improve things unlike you and others like your self like a dystopian society southy
  • Score: 1

2:15pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Dan Soton says...

,,

I'd be all for if it was 200-metres high and had a bungee jump out over Southampton water..


Otherwise from a distance it looks like a sad mantelpiece ornament that got binned 30 years ago..




,,
,, I'd be all for if it was 200-metres high and had a bungee jump out over Southampton water.. Otherwise from a distance it looks like a sad mantelpiece ornament that got binned 30 years ago.. ,, Dan Soton
  • Score: 1

8:31am Thu 10 Jul 14

Alan Reynard says...

Never the optimist, I would ask one simple question! has the implications of Alec Samuel's law been taken into account.
Ah yes who,s that?
Those of you old enough will remember that he opposed the Southampton Boat Show, in the seventies on the ground that the public were prevented from free and unchallenged access! he won and the council of which I was a member had to obtain a very specific "Act of Parliament" for it to continue, the similarities would suggest another local Act is required, I would suggest that before any money is invested that this be investigated, although I do agree whole heartedly with the expressed view "Wrong site and a Pygmy compared to the original suggestion and fails to stir the imagination that the original proposal did
Never the optimist, I would ask one simple question! has the implications of Alec Samuel's law been taken into account. Ah yes who,s that? Those of you old enough will remember that he opposed the Southampton Boat Show, in the seventies on the ground that the public were prevented from free and unchallenged access! he won and the council of which I was a member had to obtain a very specific "Act of Parliament" for it to continue, the similarities would suggest another local Act is required, I would suggest that before any money is invested that this be investigated, although I do agree whole heartedly with the expressed view "Wrong site and a Pygmy compared to the original suggestion and fails to stir the imagination that the original proposal did Alan Reynard
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