Is violence on the rise in Southampton?

Daily Echo: Police involved in a murder inquiry in Morris Road, Southampton Police involved in a murder inquiry in Morris Road, Southampton

TWO murders, the closure of the Itchen Bridge after a man was found with significant injuries, and the discovery of a woman’s body close to rubbish bins – and that is just in the past fortnight in Southampton.

But does this reflect a city turning more readily to violence, or is it a statistical quirk?

Southampton’s top cop believes it is the latter, as official figures show violent crime is down significantly in the past year.

Superintendent James Fulton, district commander for Southampton, argues that none of the incidents were linked and residents need not be alarmed.

He says people have nothing to fear following an “unusual” number of police incidents within the city in the past two weeks.

In fact, he told the Daily Echo that the city is safer than it was 12 months ago, with violent crime down by 25 per cent compared to the previous year. However, he understands how so much police activity within the city in such a short space of time has caused concern.

As previously reported, a murder investigation was launched on June 13 after the death of Belinda Dalby, at Jordon House, in Millbrook Road East.

Daily Echo: Belinda Dalby was found dead at a Southampton hostel and 30-year-old Jamie Nicholson has been charged with her murder

Belinda Dalby

Days later, on June 19, the Itchen Bridge was closed for several hours as officers investigated the death of Southampton boxer Lee Cutter, who was found in the water suffering from multiple wounds – which officers later concluded were self-inflicted.

Then, on Monday, Jane Helbin’s body was discovered by binmen in Millbrook Road East, and just hours later a murder investigation was launched following the death of John Willdig in Morris Road.

Daily Echo: Family of murder victim say thanks to those who tried to save him

John Willdig

All the incidents saw teams of officers and forensic experts drafted in, with police cordons set up and road closures established as investigations got under way.

Supt Fulton said: “Southampton over the recent two weeks has been hit with a number of significant incidents which have absorbed policing resources. These have caused considerable disruption to communities.

“Undoubtedly this is an unusual number of these types of incidents, but there is no cause for alarm across communities. I can categorically say none of these are linked.

“They are all tragic isolated incidents and in all cases linked to people, if a third party is involved, who are known to the victim.

“Southampton continues to see falls in violent crime. Last year alone the most serious offences of violence saw a 25 per cent reduction, so Southampton continues to become a safer city.”

He added that while road closures and cordons do cause disruption for many, they are vitally important to allow officers to establish what has happened and protect any evidence if any charges are brought as a result of the incident.

“I would like to thank the public for their understanding when roads are closed or scenes put up,” said Supt Fulton.

“These are necessary procedures which have to be done at the initial stages on any investigation into an individual’s death.

“Frequently people would have seen police cordons, with police tape, with officers protecting a scene.

“This is a key part of our investigative and forensic approach to preserve evidence if somebody needs to be brought to justice.

“I appreciate following the last two weeks that it may not feel like that but let me assure you, we continue to work to make Southampton even safer.”

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11:25am Sun 29 Jun 14

issacchunt says...

Nice try Echo, you cannot include suicide and likely self abusers in the question. Like most of the press why let the truth get in the way of a story?

You reported yourselves on the itchen bridge closure now being a suicide rather than suspicious and now use it as an example of local violence??? Laughable.
Nice try Echo, you cannot include suicide and likely self abusers in the question. Like most of the press why let the truth get in the way of a story? You reported yourselves on the itchen bridge closure now being a suicide rather than suspicious and now use it as an example of local violence??? Laughable. issacchunt
  • Score: 65

11:27am Sun 29 Jun 14

thesouth says...

issacchunt wrote:
Nice try Echo, you cannot include suicide and likely self abusers in the question. Like most of the press why let the truth get in the way of a story?

You reported yourselves on the itchen bridge closure now being a suicide rather than suspicious and now use it as an example of local violence??? Laughable.
Spot on, exactly what I was going to say!!!
Violence must be on the DECREASE if this example of desperate reporting is anything to go by.
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: Nice try Echo, you cannot include suicide and likely self abusers in the question. Like most of the press why let the truth get in the way of a story? You reported yourselves on the itchen bridge closure now being a suicide rather than suspicious and now use it as an example of local violence??? Laughable.[/p][/quote]Spot on, exactly what I was going to say!!! Violence must be on the DECREASE if this example of desperate reporting is anything to go by. thesouth
  • Score: 43

11:47am Sun 29 Jun 14

itsnotjustice says...

another BS article from the echo.... this just goes to show that they dont work at the weekend and write articles during the week when theres nothing else to do..... what has the poor lady found amongst the rubbish and the poor lad who jumped off the bridge got to do with this article???

If you want to talk about how violent southampton is then talk about the attacks by the ferrel youth in certain areas of the city, and the random assults on friday and saturday nights...

i guess it was either run this article or make up another story about saints.
another BS article from the echo.... this just goes to show that they dont work at the weekend and write articles during the week when theres nothing else to do..... what has the poor lady found amongst the rubbish and the poor lad who jumped off the bridge got to do with this article??? If you want to talk about how violent southampton is then talk about the attacks by the ferrel youth in certain areas of the city, and the random assults on friday and saturday nights... i guess it was either run this article or make up another story about saints. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 45

11:49am Sun 29 Jun 14

itsnotjustice says...

ahhhh my post would have been so perfect if i had spelt feral correctly.
ahhhh my post would have been so perfect if i had spelt feral correctly. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 16

12:11pm Sun 29 Jun 14

rudolph_hucker says...

Dump
Dump rudolph_hucker
  • Score: -34

12:19pm Sun 29 Jun 14

thesouth says...

rudolph_hucker wrote:
Dump
Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher
[quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: Dump[/p][/quote]Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher thesouth
  • Score: 35

12:39pm Sun 29 Jun 14

downfader says...

Just to add in a point. If people want lower crime rates (and that is possible even if they are already low) - they have to work with the Police. Tell them who is doing what, where to find a problem etc etc.
Just to add in a point. If people want lower crime rates (and that is possible even if they are already low) - they have to work with the Police. Tell them who is doing what, where to find a problem etc etc. downfader
  • Score: 23

12:47pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Shane75 says...

In my opinion I would say crime is actually on the increase and due to funding cuts to the police force. People are not reporting crime as in previous years because the police just aint got the resources. So therefore nothing appears to get done.
In my opinion I would say crime is actually on the increase and due to funding cuts to the police force. People are not reporting crime as in previous years because the police just aint got the resources. So therefore nothing appears to get done. Shane75
  • Score: 3

12:55pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Charlie Bucket says...

Shane75 wrote:
In my opinion I would say crime is actually on the increase and due to funding cuts to the police force. People are not reporting crime as in previous years because the police just aint got the resources. So therefore nothing appears to get done.
Luckily, it's not a matter of opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Shane75[/bold] wrote: In my opinion I would say crime is actually on the increase and due to funding cuts to the police force. People are not reporting crime as in previous years because the police just aint got the resources. So therefore nothing appears to get done.[/p][/quote]Luckily, it's not a matter of opinion. Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 22

1:00pm Sun 29 Jun 14

rudolph_hucker says...

thesouth wrote:
rudolph_hucker wrote:
Dump
Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher
Sure once you take your blinkers off
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: Dump[/p][/quote]Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher[/p][/quote]Sure once you take your blinkers off rudolph_hucker
  • Score: -44

1:22pm Sun 29 Jun 14

issacchunt says...

Shane75 wrote:
In my opinion I would say crime is actually on the increase and due to funding cuts to the police force. People are not reporting crime as in previous years because the police just aint got the resources. So therefore nothing appears to get done.
Violence will fluctuate in any society, people may refrain if in site of the police but it happens no matter how many police may be out and about.

Opinions like we know are similar to R.soles, everybody has one.
[quote][p][bold]Shane75[/bold] wrote: In my opinion I would say crime is actually on the increase and due to funding cuts to the police force. People are not reporting crime as in previous years because the police just aint got the resources. So therefore nothing appears to get done.[/p][/quote]Violence will fluctuate in any society, people may refrain if in site of the police but it happens no matter how many police may be out and about. Opinions like we know are similar to R.soles, everybody has one. issacchunt
  • Score: 3

1:25pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Service-defender says...

It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now.

How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher?

Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks?

I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise
It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now. How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher? Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks? I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise Service-defender
  • Score: -8

1:26pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Service-defender says...

Service-defender wrote:
It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now.

How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher?

Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks?

I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise
sorry I meant beyond the two weeks
[quote][p][bold]Service-defender[/bold] wrote: It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now. How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher? Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks? I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise[/p][/quote]sorry I meant beyond the two weeks Service-defender
  • Score: -8

1:52pm Sun 29 Jun 14

shirlski says...

What an amateurish attempt at journalism trying to create some kind of murderous epidemic in the city. Some of the cases quoted don't even relate to violence against the person! I've never felt in fear of violence walking around the city as I do, and have done for the past forty odd years. Check out some of the London boroughs or northern cities if you want a bit of buttock clenching intimidation.
What an amateurish attempt at journalism trying to create some kind of murderous epidemic in the city. Some of the cases quoted don't even relate to violence against the person! I've never felt in fear of violence walking around the city as I do, and have done for the past forty odd years. Check out some of the London boroughs or northern cities if you want a bit of buttock clenching intimidation. shirlski
  • Score: 17

2:27pm Sun 29 Jun 14

LornaMay says...

thesouth wrote:
rudolph_hucker wrote:
Dump
Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher
Southampton was never like this 30years ago.. It was a respectable town with a caring community.. Problem is arising from the lack of Money poor Housing OVERSPILL from RSH/NHS Mental Health/ care in the Community .. Its not Southampton per say its the Condition the country is in and lack of Social Care.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: Dump[/p][/quote]Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher[/p][/quote]Southampton was never like this 30years ago.. It was a respectable town with a caring community.. Problem is arising from the lack of Money poor Housing OVERSPILL from RSH/NHS Mental Health/ care in the Community .. Its not Southampton per say its the Condition the country is in and lack of Social Care. LornaMay
  • Score: -13

2:59pm Sun 29 Jun 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Is crap sensationalist journalism on the rise on Southampton........Y
ES !

Sometimes our local rag resembles The Sunday Sport !
Is crap sensationalist journalism on the rise on Southampton........Y ES ! Sometimes our local rag resembles The Sunday Sport ! 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 24

3:40pm Sun 29 Jun 14

westhantsboy says...

Perhaps the most ridiculous piece of journalism ever. Better off focusing on what our rapidly diminishing Police force have actually achieved to reduce the violence in the last few years with reduced numbers and even MORE cuts to come in next eighteen months.
Perhaps the most ridiculous piece of journalism ever. Better off focusing on what our rapidly diminishing Police force have actually achieved to reduce the violence in the last few years with reduced numbers and even MORE cuts to come in next eighteen months. westhantsboy
  • Score: 20

4:13pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Sussex Jay says...

I was going to move to southampton in 2003 and looked at a number of areas , but I was concerned by issues that every city has, but could afford the nicer propertys,I love visiting for footie and shopping on a regular weekend etc but just couldnt convince myself of living in Southampton,but poor article by echo,shouldn't really negative things about the city it writes about
I was going to move to southampton in 2003 and looked at a number of areas , but I was concerned by issues that every city has, but could afford the nicer propertys,I love visiting for footie and shopping on a regular weekend etc but just couldnt convince myself of living in Southampton,but poor article by echo,shouldn't really negative things about the city it writes about Sussex Jay
  • Score: 13

5:36pm Sun 29 Jun 14

WTFisgoingon says...

Service-defender wrote:
Service-defender wrote:
It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now.

How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher?

Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks?

I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise
sorry I meant beyond the two weeks
"Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton "

Saying "the fact of the matter is" doesn't make the rest of the sentence true. Crime ISN'T increasing. Show me any statistic from any reputable source that says otherwise. Your perception is not "fact".
[quote][p][bold]Service-defender[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Service-defender[/bold] wrote: It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now. How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher? Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks? I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise[/p][/quote]sorry I meant beyond the two weeks[/p][/quote]"Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton " Saying "the fact of the matter is" doesn't make the rest of the sentence true. Crime ISN'T increasing. Show me any statistic from any reputable source that says otherwise. Your perception is not "fact". WTFisgoingon
  • Score: -6

6:05pm Sun 29 Jun 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

LornaMay wrote:
thesouth wrote:
rudolph_hucker wrote:
Dump
Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher
Southampton was never like this 30years ago.. It was a respectable town with a caring community.. Problem is arising from the lack of Money poor Housing OVERSPILL from RSH/NHS Mental Health/ care in the Community .. Its not Southampton per say its the Condition the country is in and lack of Social Care.
i blame the printworker scab influence.
[quote][p][bold]LornaMay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: Dump[/p][/quote]Maybe where you live but where I live in southampton is lovely. Maybe you should set you sights higher[/p][/quote]Southampton was never like this 30years ago.. It was a respectable town with a caring community.. Problem is arising from the lack of Money poor Housing OVERSPILL from RSH/NHS Mental Health/ care in the Community .. Its not Southampton per say its the Condition the country is in and lack of Social Care.[/p][/quote]i blame the printworker scab influence. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -12

7:40pm Sun 29 Jun 14

issacchunt says...

Classic Echo Reader wrote:
Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.
Sent back where? The bus maybe, Rosa Parkes will deal with you.
[quote][p][bold]Classic Echo Reader[/bold] wrote: Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.[/p][/quote]Sent back where? The bus maybe, Rosa Parkes will deal with you. issacchunt
  • Score: 5

8:27pm Sun 29 Jun 14

downfader says...

issacchunt wrote:
Classic Echo Reader wrote:
Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.
Sent back where? The bus maybe, Rosa Parkes will deal with you.
I'm guessing that's a parody of some of the nonsense others have posted about "visitors to our city"....
[quote][p][bold]issacchunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Classic Echo Reader[/bold] wrote: Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.[/p][/quote]Sent back where? The bus maybe, Rosa Parkes will deal with you.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing that's a parody of some of the nonsense others have posted about "visitors to our city".... downfader
  • Score: 9

9:04pm Sun 29 Jun 14

thesouth says...

Classic Echo Reader wrote:
Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.
So from this post we can assume you are white, never had much education and are overweight. Yes.....we really want more people like you.
[quote][p][bold]Classic Echo Reader[/bold] wrote: Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.[/p][/quote]So from this post we can assume you are white, never had much education and are overweight. Yes.....we really want more people like you. thesouth
  • Score: 8

10:16pm Sun 29 Jun 14

issacchunt says...

thesouth wrote:
Classic Echo Reader wrote:
Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.
So from this post we can assume you are white, never had much education and are overweight. Yes.....we really want more people like you.
I would imagine from his or her name irony is king.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Classic Echo Reader[/bold] wrote: Well, hopefully all the non-whites will be sent back where they came from, the students will all die of alcohol poisoning and cyclists will all get run over by a bus. Then we can get back to the crime-free utopia this city once was.[/p][/quote]So from this post we can assume you are white, never had much education and are overweight. Yes.....we really want more people like you.[/p][/quote]I would imagine from his or her name irony is king. issacchunt
  • Score: 12

11:40pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Service-defender says...

WTFisgoingon wrote:
Service-defender wrote:
Service-defender wrote:
It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now.

How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher?

Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks?

I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise
sorry I meant beyond the two weeks
"Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton "

Saying "the fact of the matter is" doesn't make the rest of the sentence true. Crime ISN'T increasing. Show me any statistic from any reputable source that says otherwise. Your perception is not "fact".
You may have a point there but again the statistics isn't the here and now, and these are for reported crimes. How many don't get reported. I live in the city, have done my whole life and I've seen how much it has changed. Fact or not, living here I see crime is on the rise.
[quote][p][bold]WTFisgoingon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Service-defender[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Service-defender[/bold] wrote: It's nice to see the police trying to put peoples mind at ease but how do we know that this isn't the start of things to come? Statistics in the past is not the here and now. How many violent crime goes unreported? Also how do they define a safer city? We have theft, murder, drug users and continued rape in the same areas. Are we a safe city or are we safer than another part of the uk where crime is slightly higher? Ok the four deaths they've reported recently I can see what they're saying it's not all violence related crime which is reassuring but what about any other time beyond the four weeks? I'm not convinced I'm sad to say. Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton and we need more police and stricter penalties for offenders. Until we see more action taken i won't be convinced otherwise[/p][/quote]sorry I meant beyond the two weeks[/p][/quote]"Ok yes we are safer than other areas but the fact of the matter is, crime is continuing and on the rise in Southampton " Saying "the fact of the matter is" doesn't make the rest of the sentence true. Crime ISN'T increasing. Show me any statistic from any reputable source that says otherwise. Your perception is not "fact".[/p][/quote]You may have a point there but again the statistics isn't the here and now, and these are for reported crimes. How many don't get reported. I live in the city, have done my whole life and I've seen how much it has changed. Fact or not, living here I see crime is on the rise. Service-defender
  • Score: -5

11:44pm Sun 29 Jun 14

gristle says...

No big changes then. For many years Soton has been rated highly in national crime statistics for offences such as petty theft, minor violent crimes, and sexual offences.
No big changes then. For many years Soton has been rated highly in national crime statistics for offences such as petty theft, minor violent crimes, and sexual offences. gristle
  • Score: -7

4:55am Mon 30 Jun 14

bigfella777 says...

Most crime isn't even reported
Most crime isn't even reported bigfella777
  • Score: -1

6:32am Mon 30 Jun 14

Charlie Bucket says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Most crime isn't even reported
And you know this how?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Most crime isn't even reported[/p][/quote]And you know this how? Charlie Bucket
  • Score: 6

10:37am Mon 30 Jun 14

lowe esteem says...

gristle wrote:
No big changes then. For many years Soton has been rated highly in national crime statistics for offences such as petty theft, minor violent crimes, and sexual offences.
So, if we 'sell off' all the major crime to the 'big-league' players like London, Liverpool and Manchester, we can all go back to sleep?
[quote][p][bold]gristle[/bold] wrote: No big changes then. For many years Soton has been rated highly in national crime statistics for offences such as petty theft, minor violent crimes, and sexual offences.[/p][/quote]So, if we 'sell off' all the major crime to the 'big-league' players like London, Liverpool and Manchester, we can all go back to sleep? lowe esteem
  • Score: 1
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