M27 death crash biker was distracted by paper bag, inquest told

Biker distracted by bag, inquest told

Biker distracted by bag, inquest told

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A BIKER died on a busy Hampshire motorway after losing control of his machine when he was distracted by a paper bag, an inquest heard.

Grandfather-of-three Robert Simmonds was travelling west along the M27 to work when his Suzuki Bandit motorbike clipped the rear wheel arch of a Mercedes tipper truck.

Moments before the collision witnesses told Southampton Coroner’s Court how they had seen a large brown paper bag fly into the path of the 49-year-old.

Lorry driver Malcolm Bourne said although Mr Simmonds removed the bag from his chest, he lost control shortly afterwards at junction five of the motorway near Southampton Airport.

Attempts to resuscitate the crane operator from Blackmoor Walk, Havant, were unsuccessful and he died at the scene from multiple injuries on August 16 last year.

The driver of the tipper truck, Andrew Redding, said he waited for two vehicles to pass to his right before he moved out in front of the bike, which he said he did not see.

Mr Redding added that he didn’t feel any impact on his vehicle and carried on to a construction site in Romsey where he was collecting waste materials.

He later approached police after he heard about the accident leading to seven-hour tailbacks and calls for the driver of the tipper trick to come forward.

Central Hampshire Coroner Grahame Short ruled that Mr Simmonds had died as the result of a road traffic collision.

He added: “I think Rob was distracted by the paper bag that had blown up and was therefore not conscious of the fact that the lorry was moving out in front of him.”

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12:55pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

There was a large boulder in the road between Kane's hill roundabout and the hedge end junction Tuesday.I tried the 101 number and was put on hold for 15mins so gave up. Would this have warranted a 999 call?
There was a large boulder in the road between Kane's hill roundabout and the hedge end junction Tuesday.I tried the 101 number and was put on hold for 15mins so gave up. Would this have warranted a 999 call? Zexagon
  • Score: 2

3:11pm Thu 3 Jul 14

iankenken says...

So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.
So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert. iankenken
  • Score: 3

6:31pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Turtlebay says...

iankenken wrote:
So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.
Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it!
[quote][p][bold]iankenken[/bold] wrote: So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.[/p][/quote]Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it! Turtlebay
  • Score: -3

9:03pm Thu 3 Jul 14

issacchunt says...

Turtlebay wrote:
iankenken wrote:
So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.
Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it!
R, sole.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iankenken[/bold] wrote: So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.[/p][/quote]Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it![/p][/quote]R, sole. issacchunt
  • Score: 1

7:43am Fri 4 Jul 14

iankenken says...

So some people think they have the right of way despite the bikes ALREADY being there? Hmmm. I think the sensible premise is that the road should be clear BEFORE making a manoeuvre, NOT to make others move OUT of your way. This is what appears to have happend to Robert and now a family has to deal with a tragic loss.
So some people think they have the right of way despite the bikes ALREADY being there? Hmmm. I think the sensible premise is that the road should be clear BEFORE making a manoeuvre, NOT to make others move OUT of your way. This is what appears to have happend to Robert and now a family has to deal with a tragic loss. iankenken
  • Score: 3

8:58am Fri 4 Jul 14

wwozzer says...

Turtlebay wrote:
iankenken wrote:
So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.
Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it!
So you think size gives you right of way? And if other road users who actually have right of way don't comply then you threaten to cause an accident?

I don't think you should be driving for a living.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iankenken[/bold] wrote: So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.[/p][/quote]Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it![/p][/quote]So you think size gives you right of way? And if other road users who actually have right of way don't comply then you threaten to cause an accident? I don't think you should be driving for a living. wwozzer
  • Score: 7

10:55am Fri 4 Jul 14

joiner123 says...

Turtlebay wrote:
iankenken wrote:
So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.
Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it!
Although don't wish to promote gun crime, I hope they are hells angels and the next time you "see then again" themselves and their mates pull out guns and blast you away. Idiot.

RIP Robert
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iankenken[/bold] wrote: So it was okay for the lorry driver to pull out on the bike? Am I missing somehing here? To change lanes, shouldn't the lorry driver have made sure the road was clear? My thoughts are with Robert's family. RIP Robert.[/p][/quote]Whilst going through Lyndhurst's one way system on Wednesday afternoon in a lorry I attempted to get into the offside lane to stop and make a delivery at a house. Two Hells Angel types on motor bikes refused to let me in even though I was indicating. If I ever see these two again (I have their number plates noted) I will mow them down! If you are those two you have been warned. A lorry will make more mess of your bikes and you than you will make of it![/p][/quote]Although don't wish to promote gun crime, I hope they are hells angels and the next time you "see then again" themselves and their mates pull out guns and blast you away. Idiot. RIP Robert joiner123
  • Score: 0

12:04am Mon 7 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Zexagon wrote:
There was a large boulder in the road between Kane's hill roundabout and the hedge end junction Tuesday.I tried the 101 number and was put on hold for 15mins so gave up. Would this have warranted a 999 call?
Probably no harm done if you think it might save a life,and at least you can rest easy knowing you have done your best.
In the past,I have even stopped(on non-motorway roads),to remove pieces of debris,or nails and screws I've spotted on the carriageway,(if it was safe to do so),but obviously people should not expose themselves to unnecessary risk,which is when a phone call would be the right way of dealing with it.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: There was a large boulder in the road between Kane's hill roundabout and the hedge end junction Tuesday.I tried the 101 number and was put on hold for 15mins so gave up. Would this have warranted a 999 call?[/p][/quote]Probably no harm done if you think it might save a life,and at least you can rest easy knowing you have done your best. In the past,I have even stopped(on non-motorway roads),to remove pieces of debris,or nails and screws I've spotted on the carriageway,(if it was safe to do so),but obviously people should not expose themselves to unnecessary risk,which is when a phone call would be the right way of dealing with it. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

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