Summer of cycling for Southampton

Summer of cycling for Southampton

Summer of cycling for Southampton

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

A SUMMER of cycling events will be hitting the streets of Southampton and residents will have a chance to get involved.

Bike fever is gripping the nation as the Tour de France returned to the UK and a city cycling campaign is showing people it’s not just for the professionals.

After the Sky Ride last month, Sky Ride Local is teaming up with the city council, British Cycling and My Journey Southampton to provide free guided rides and get people pedalling.

The planning is already done, with the best routes picked, ride leaders booked and some places organised to dismount and visit, as well as having three different ability levels on offer.

The council is hoping the Tour de France will inspire residents to be more active.

Those who take part in two or more Sky Ride Local rides during July will also be able to get some British Cycling gifts like water bottles, neck buffs and a chance to win a VIP cycling experience to the Tour of Britain in September.

Environment and transport councillor, Jacqui Rayment said: “I would like to encourage Southampton residents to take part in at least one of these weekend rides.

“Thanks to British Cycling and My Journey Southamp-ton, these bike rides offer something for all ages and abilities, whether you are a keen cyclist who is up for a challenge or a family who is looking for an active day out.

“I hope that the success of last month’s Sky Ride Southampton and Tour de France, as well as local opportunities such as Sky Ride Local rides will inspire residents to cycle more regularly and make Southampton a better place to live and work.”

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5:18am Fri 18 Jul 14

loosehead says...

I can only congratulate the organisers & the council for these events.
Noe Echo it's up to you to print the routes & dates in advance so no one can complain about it .
I can only congratulate the organisers & the council for these events. Noe Echo it's up to you to print the routes & dates in advance so no one can complain about it . loosehead
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7:44am Fri 18 Jul 14

elvisimo says...

That headline should bring out some choice 'well' thought out comment..
That headline should bring out some choice 'well' thought out comment.. elvisimo
  • Score: 0

8:36am Fri 18 Jul 14

tootle says...

If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible. tootle
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8:54am Fri 18 Jul 14

elvisimo says...

tootle wrote:
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion.

Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.
[quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.[/p][/quote]there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion. Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users. elvisimo
  • Score: 9

9:19am Fri 18 Jul 14

Solent Soul says...

I think every road user/pedestrian/fell
ow human being needs to take a long hard look at how they conduct themselves whilst using the public roads. We are talking about real life's that can be ended in a split second, that's a family who has to live without their loved ones after a moment of madness, emergency services who have to deal with the trauma of mopping up after such an incident & the extra pressure loaded onto the nhs etc.. Well done SSC doing something positive & promoting cycle safety!
I think every road user/pedestrian/fell ow human being needs to take a long hard look at how they conduct themselves whilst using the public roads. We are talking about real life's that can be ended in a split second, that's a family who has to live without their loved ones after a moment of madness, emergency services who have to deal with the trauma of mopping up after such an incident & the extra pressure loaded onto the nhs etc.. Well done SSC doing something positive & promoting cycle safety! Solent Soul
  • Score: 10

9:22am Fri 18 Jul 14

spotburst says...

"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction? spotburst
  • Score: 3

9:58am Fri 18 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

elvisimo wrote:
tootle wrote:
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion.

Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.
Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.[/p][/quote]there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion. Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.[/p][/quote]Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws. Torchie1
  • Score: -2

10:18am Fri 18 Jul 14

teamgreen says...

Torchie1 wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
tootle wrote:
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion.

Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.
Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.
refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.[/p][/quote]there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion. Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.[/p][/quote]Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.[/p][/quote]refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car. teamgreen
  • Score: 0

10:23am Fri 18 Jul 14

camerajuan says...

Torchie1 wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
tootle wrote:
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion.

Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.
Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.
More rules and higher costs involved for the mode of transport that carries greater risk to the public. Very simple.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.[/p][/quote]there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion. Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.[/p][/quote]Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.[/p][/quote]More rules and higher costs involved for the mode of transport that carries greater risk to the public. Very simple. camerajuan
  • Score: 4

11:32am Fri 18 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig Zexagon
  • Score: -4

1:51pm Fri 18 Jul 14

tootle says...

spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all.

Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to.

As to pedestrians - tell me about them.

We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.
[quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car. tootle
  • Score: 2

2:39pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Solent Soul says...

tootle wrote:
spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all.

Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to.

As to pedestrians - tell me about them.

We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.
That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users..
[quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.[/p][/quote]That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users.. Solent Soul
  • Score: -1

2:50pm Fri 18 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

Hope this can get more people active
Hope this can get more people active 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

3:42pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Winsaint says...

Last wekend i took part in the British Heart foundation overnight ride between Central London (Tower Bridge) to Brighton sea front and distance of 67 miles. Great fun and enjoyed the ride this is someone who would have got worn out running a bath a year ago so anything is possible.
Last wekend i took part in the British Heart foundation overnight ride between Central London (Tower Bridge) to Brighton sea front and distance of 67 miles. Great fun and enjoyed the ride this is someone who would have got worn out running a bath a year ago so anything is possible. Winsaint
  • Score: -1

3:58pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

teamgreen wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
tootle wrote:
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion.

Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.
Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.
refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car.
They're all illegal and can result in a prosecution if a Policeman is nearby. Please consult any legally trained person and ask just what percentage of laws on the statute books pertain to motoring offences, and I think you'll be surprised. It's not really PC but the reason the bicycle offences are mostly overlooked is because it's still seen as a poor mans form of transport whereas vehicle ownership suggest the offender has some money to pay a fine.
[quote][p][bold]teamgreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.[/p][/quote]there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion. Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.[/p][/quote]Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.[/p][/quote]refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car.[/p][/quote]They're all illegal and can result in a prosecution if a Policeman is nearby. Please consult any legally trained person and ask just what percentage of laws on the statute books pertain to motoring offences, and I think you'll be surprised. It's not really PC but the reason the bicycle offences are mostly overlooked is because it's still seen as a poor mans form of transport whereas vehicle ownership suggest the offender has some money to pay a fine. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
New juntion on the Itchen bridge does allow right turns when coming down off the bridge but the junction is designed using a dangerous, American design where to turn right following it's instructions as a cyclist, you would first have to go straight on and then turn left and then a full 180 to pull up at a second red light o go straight across again, it doesn't take into account, left turning vehicles either.
[quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]New juntion on the Itchen bridge does allow right turns when coming down off the bridge but the junction is designed using a dangerous, American design where to turn right following it's instructions as a cyclist, you would first have to go straight on and then turn left and then a full 180 to pull up at a second red light o go straight across again, it doesn't take into account, left turning vehicles either. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -2

4:03pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

Solent Soul wrote:
tootle wrote:
spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all.

Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to.

As to pedestrians - tell me about them.

We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.
That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users..
Having taken your advice and gained a refresher course to add to and refresh the skills learned the first time around, the driver will still have to contend with a cyclist who's only training was in the local park when granny bought him a bicycle for his fifth birthday.
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.[/p][/quote]That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users..[/p][/quote]Having taken your advice and gained a refresher course to add to and refresh the skills learned the first time around, the driver will still have to contend with a cyclist who's only training was in the local park when granny bought him a bicycle for his fifth birthday. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

4:06pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

tootle wrote:
spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all.

Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to.

As to pedestrians - tell me about them.

We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.
Bikeability replaced the old cycling proficiency test to be up to ate with the times and is part of the curriculum in many schools.
[quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.[/p][/quote]Bikeability replaced the old cycling proficiency test to be up to ate with the times and is part of the curriculum in many schools. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -1

4:09pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -2

4:15pm Fri 18 Jul 14

RomseyKeith says...

Winsaint wrote:
Last wekend i took part in the British Heart foundation overnight ride between Central London (Tower Bridge) to Brighton sea front and distance of 67 miles. Great fun and enjoyed the ride this is someone who would have got worn out running a bath a year ago so anything is possible.
Well done sir. the London to Brighton is a good distance, and an enjoyable ride. How much did you raise for the British Heart Foundation, if I may ask?
[quote][p][bold]Winsaint[/bold] wrote: Last wekend i took part in the British Heart foundation overnight ride between Central London (Tower Bridge) to Brighton sea front and distance of 67 miles. Great fun and enjoyed the ride this is someone who would have got worn out running a bath a year ago so anything is possible.[/p][/quote]Well done sir. the London to Brighton is a good distance, and an enjoyable ride. How much did you raise for the British Heart Foundation, if I may ask? RomseyKeith
  • Score: -2

4:18pm Fri 18 Jul 14

RomseyKeith says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
tootle wrote:
spotburst wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.
Bikeability replaced the old cycling proficiency test to be up to ate with the times and is part of the curriculum in many schools.
True. The usually learn Bikeability in year 5 or 6. It teaches signalling, junctions, traffic lights (that red means stop for all road users, even pedestrians crossing at lights or level crossings).
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.[/p][/quote]Bikeability replaced the old cycling proficiency test to be up to ate with the times and is part of the curriculum in many schools.[/p][/quote]True. The usually learn Bikeability in year 5 or 6. It teaches signalling, junctions, traffic lights (that red means stop for all road users, even pedestrians crossing at lights or level crossings). RomseyKeith
  • Score: -3

4:21pm Fri 18 Jul 14

RomseyKeith says...

It doesn't matter whether you're on foot, on two wheels or in a car, van or lorry, etc. You can still be killed or damaged for life on the roads. A car driver who knocks a cyclist off, for example, would be scarred for life by the enormity of taking someone's life or crippling them.
We all need to respect the things that can kill us and show due care and attention. It only takes that one slight lapse of concentration at the wrong time to mess lives up forever.
It doesn't matter whether you're on foot, on two wheels or in a car, van or lorry, etc. You can still be killed or damaged for life on the roads. A car driver who knocks a cyclist off, for example, would be scarred for life by the enormity of taking someone's life or crippling them. We all need to respect the things that can kill us and show due care and attention. It only takes that one slight lapse of concentration at the wrong time to mess lives up forever. RomseyKeith
  • Score: -3

5:03pm Fri 18 Jul 14

sparkster says...

I have to say that I agree with one of the above posters, maybe these events could have a training session to help keep them safe and not getting knocked off ie not wearing headphones as im sure they cant hear properly, also hubby and I were out the other day and on two occasions we had to stop at traffic lights and on those two occasions a cyclist rode straight through the red light. Im not knocking cyclists they have every right to be on on the road and it's a great way to get around saving on petrol etc.
I have to say that I agree with one of the above posters, maybe these events could have a training session to help keep them safe and not getting knocked off ie not wearing headphones as im sure they cant hear properly, also hubby and I were out the other day and on two occasions we had to stop at traffic lights and on those two occasions a cyclist rode straight through the red light. Im not knocking cyclists they have every right to be on on the road and it's a great way to get around saving on petrol etc. sparkster
  • Score: -1

5:13pm Fri 18 Jul 14

theoriginalwasp says...

Great to see some cycling events coming to, and being promoted within, Southampton.

Can't be bothered to get in to the cyclist v motorist debates. Everyone treats each other with as little respect as possible.

If only there were more cycling events scheduled the world would be a better place.
Great to see some cycling events coming to, and being promoted within, Southampton. Can't be bothered to get in to the cyclist v motorist debates. Everyone treats each other with as little respect as possible. If only there were more cycling events scheduled the world would be a better place. theoriginalwasp
  • Score: -1

5:18pm Fri 18 Jul 14

loosehead says...

I personally think these events the Southampton Half Marathon & Sky rides are great for the city & I would love to see a F! race come here(I can dream).
I would love to see the cycling world championship & the triathlon come here.
Now I've read about complaints about cyclists & then complaints about cars & other motorised vehicles.
I've passed my cycling proficiency test & became a knight of the road & I've passed both Car & Motorbike tests I have driven 10ton AEC's (lorries) so let's start on the good & bad things shall we.
In Shirley there are signs telling cyclists not to ride on the pavement but cyclists do these are either young men with shirts off or people high as a kite & these people aren't a genuine representation of real cyclists.
then we have cars. it's illegal to block/park a pavement it's illegal to park on double yellow lines so what do they do? they park one tyre on the pavement blocking it & one tyre on the road causing the traffic to build up unto busses & lorries can safely move into the oncoming lane .
They are breaking the law twice. they drive down the road smoking,talking on the mobile or not even looking where they are going because they are in conversation with their passengers.
Now I remember a time when most working men rode bikes to work mothers walked children to school in all weather it's cost effective & will help with family finances so anything to encourage people back to those days is good & is also good for the planet & their health.
I personally think these events the Southampton Half Marathon & Sky rides are great for the city & I would love to see a F! race come here(I can dream). I would love to see the cycling world championship & the triathlon come here. Now I've read about complaints about cyclists & then complaints about cars & other motorised vehicles. I've passed my cycling proficiency test & became a knight of the road & I've passed both Car & Motorbike tests I have driven 10ton AEC's (lorries) so let's start on the good & bad things shall we. In Shirley there are signs telling cyclists not to ride on the pavement but cyclists do these are either young men with shirts off or people high as a kite & these people aren't a genuine representation of real cyclists. then we have cars. it's illegal to block/park a pavement it's illegal to park on double yellow lines so what do they do? they park one tyre on the pavement blocking it & one tyre on the road causing the traffic to build up unto busses & lorries can safely move into the oncoming lane . They are breaking the law twice. they drive down the road smoking,talking on the mobile or not even looking where they are going because they are in conversation with their passengers. Now I remember a time when most working men rode bikes to work mothers walked children to school in all weather it's cost effective & will help with family finances so anything to encourage people back to those days is good & is also good for the planet & their health. loosehead
  • Score: 1

5:49pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying Zexagon
  • Score: 1

8:07pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -1

8:09pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -1

8:35pm Fri 18 Jul 14

teamgreen says...

Torchie1 wrote:
teamgreen wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
tootle wrote:
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion.

Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.
Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.
refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car.
They're all illegal and can result in a prosecution if a Policeman is nearby. Please consult any legally trained person and ask just what percentage of laws on the statute books pertain to motoring offences, and I think you'll be surprised. It's not really PC but the reason the bicycle offences are mostly overlooked is because it's still seen as a poor mans form of transport whereas vehicle ownership suggest the offender has some money to pay a fine.
when the average cycle costs more than the bangers on the road thats really not the point is it.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teamgreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.[/p][/quote]there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion. Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.[/p][/quote]Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.[/p][/quote]refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car.[/p][/quote]They're all illegal and can result in a prosecution if a Policeman is nearby. Please consult any legally trained person and ask just what percentage of laws on the statute books pertain to motoring offences, and I think you'll be surprised. It's not really PC but the reason the bicycle offences are mostly overlooked is because it's still seen as a poor mans form of transport whereas vehicle ownership suggest the offender has some money to pay a fine.[/p][/quote]when the average cycle costs more than the bangers on the road thats really not the point is it. teamgreen
  • Score: -1

9:59pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.
Well done
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.[/p][/quote]Well done Zexagon
  • Score: 1

10:27pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.
Well done
Obviously doing better than you as I've already found some happiness.
[quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.[/p][/quote]Well done[/p][/quote]Obviously doing better than you as I've already found some happiness. Ginger_cyclist
  • Score: -1

1:44am Sat 19 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.
Well done
Obviously doing better than you as I've already found some happiness.
If happiness is measured by the schoolgirl screaming on your Youtube efforts, you've definitely found it.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.[/p][/quote]Well done[/p][/quote]Obviously doing better than you as I've already found some happiness.[/p][/quote]If happiness is measured by the schoolgirl screaming on your Youtube efforts, you've definitely found it. Torchie1
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1:53am Sat 19 Jul 14

Solent Soul says...

Torchie1 wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
tootle wrote:
spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all.

Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to.

As to pedestrians - tell me about them.

We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.
That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users..
Having taken your advice and gained a refresher course to add to and refresh the skills learned the first time around, the driver will still have to contend with a cyclist who's only training was in the local park when granny bought him a bicycle for his fifth birthday.
Is that the extent of your bike training then? Best do us all a favour & lock yourself in at home!
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.[/p][/quote]That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users..[/p][/quote]Having taken your advice and gained a refresher course to add to and refresh the skills learned the first time around, the driver will still have to contend with a cyclist who's only training was in the local park when granny bought him a bicycle for his fifth birthday.[/p][/quote]Is that the extent of your bike training then? Best do us all a favour & lock yourself in at home! Solent Soul
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1:59am Sat 19 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

teamgreen wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
teamgreen wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
tootle wrote:
If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.
there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion.

Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.
Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.
refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car.
They're all illegal and can result in a prosecution if a Policeman is nearby. Please consult any legally trained person and ask just what percentage of laws on the statute books pertain to motoring offences, and I think you'll be surprised. It's not really PC but the reason the bicycle offences are mostly overlooked is because it's still seen as a poor mans form of transport whereas vehicle ownership suggest the offender has some money to pay a fine.
when the average cycle costs more than the bangers on the road thats really not the point is it.
It sounds as though you know all about the cost of 'bangers' so I'll take your word for it.
[quote][p][bold]teamgreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]teamgreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: If only, as well as organising these events, they could also provide tuition on how to ride safely and legally. Saw a brilliant one the other day. Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green. No danger to him, hard luck to car drivers who had no chance to overtake and avoided trying to negotiate that weird junction. Contrast that with a recent cyclist who hugged the left hand kerb at a different set of traffic lights, crossed the junction safely and then nearly fell off his bike(when he saw me)when he tried to turn right with absolutely no indication at all whilst i was starting to overtake him - headphones are not permitted for a reason!. Please couldn't the first one start teaching some of the cyclists how to ride their bikes both legally and in such a way as to keep themselves as safe as possible.[/p][/quote]there we go. So when they are being given this tuition can we also teach people to not step out into the road whilst glued to the screen of their phone. Also teach drivers that using the phone and texting whilst on the move is not a good idea and speed limits are not just a suggestion. Its very easy to pick point to an example but improvements are needed for all road users.[/p][/quote]Car drivers are subjected to a mandatory government regulated examination and the examiner may well list some 'do's & don't's' but if the driver then uses a phone and is seen by the police it will soon lead to a six point penalty or two strikes and they lose their licence. There are speed cameras and random speed traps to catch motorists exceeding the limit. Refresh my memory about the testing of cyclists and the penalties they face for breaking road laws.[/p][/quote]refresh my memory on parking at the side of the road or on the pavement with hazard lights going when nipping in the shops.or throwing fag butts out the car window,u turns when not allowed etc etc.everyone needs to obey the road laws but as the roads were designed for horses and carts as well as cycles it only seems fair car drivers should have more rules.if people get on then no road rage, no i own the road, no you dont pay towards the upkeep of the roads etc will be throw in the faces of people who chose to cycle not drive a car.[/p][/quote]They're all illegal and can result in a prosecution if a Policeman is nearby. Please consult any legally trained person and ask just what percentage of laws on the statute books pertain to motoring offences, and I think you'll be surprised. It's not really PC but the reason the bicycle offences are mostly overlooked is because it's still seen as a poor mans form of transport whereas vehicle ownership suggest the offender has some money to pay a fine.[/p][/quote]when the average cycle costs more than the bangers on the road thats really not the point is it.[/p][/quote]It sounds as though you know all about the cost of 'bangers' so I'll take your word for it. Torchie1
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11:04am Sat 19 Jul 14

Zexagon says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.
Well done
Obviously doing better than you as I've already found some happiness.
Yep obviously.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]I'd rather be happy with how I am and not give a cr@p about what others think of me... Oh wait, I'm already there.[/p][/quote]Well done[/p][/quote]Obviously doing better than you as I've already found some happiness.[/p][/quote]Yep obviously. Zexagon
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1:53pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Torchie1 says...

Solent Soul wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
Solent Soul wrote:
tootle wrote:
spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all.

Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to.

As to pedestrians - tell me about them.

We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.
That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users..
Having taken your advice and gained a refresher course to add to and refresh the skills learned the first time around, the driver will still have to contend with a cyclist who's only training was in the local park when granny bought him a bicycle for his fifth birthday.
Is that the extent of your bike training then? Best do us all a favour & lock yourself in at home!
Like the 97% of the population that use motorised transport, I left Granny's present in the garage as soon as I turned seventeen, and for all I know it may still be there. Can I go out now?
[quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solent Soul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]Nothing - this cyclist ignored the cycle lane, ignored the weird and wonderful junction especially painted on road to confuse everybody and stuck to riding safely on the carriageway. I was showing a good example and a bad example was all. Difference between car drivers and cyclists is basically we are trained and insured and are in a safe vehicle - well that's the theory, I know it doesn't exactly work like that. However a car driver driving badly has protection. A cyclist riding badly has skin! Surely getting some pointers before riding on public roads might be common sense? Not thinking compulsory - something like the old cycling proficiency, working knowledge of bike, working knowledge of road safety available at these events. Or, even better, stick it on the national curriculum for yr6!. Encourage the kids, let them ride to school en masse like we used to. As to pedestrians - tell me about them. We all need to do better, think for ourselves and each other. None of us are perfect. It's just all these events seem to encourage people to get on their bikes with little thought as to the next step. Maybe before it starts costing money to ride a bike, just like a car.[/p][/quote]That's a great argument, but let's say a car driver passes their test at 17yrs of age; Now tell me how many occasions over their driving lifetime, which could be extensive, will they have refresher training or assessments to highlight & amend any skill gaps? Never, that's why we see so many driving related incidents.. Oh & I see you have fallen for the all too common drivers false sense of security syndrome, 'I'm safe because I'm driving a car', well there is many a motorist who has lost their life or have been seriously injured with that same attitude. I would do all a favour & get some refresher training before you start pointing you're finger at other road users..[/p][/quote]Having taken your advice and gained a refresher course to add to and refresh the skills learned the first time around, the driver will still have to contend with a cyclist who's only training was in the local park when granny bought him a bicycle for his fifth birthday.[/p][/quote]Is that the extent of your bike training then? Best do us all a favour & lock yourself in at home![/p][/quote]Like the 97% of the population that use motorised transport, I left Granny's present in the garage as soon as I turned seventeen, and for all I know it may still be there. Can I go out now? Torchie1
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9:50pm Sun 20 Jul 14

rjfmusic says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
New juntion on the Itchen bridge does allow right turns when coming down off the bridge but the junction is designed using a dangerous, American design where to turn right following it's instructions as a cyclist, you would first have to go straight on and then turn left and then a full 180 to pull up at a second red light o go straight across again, it doesn't take into account, left turning vehicles either.
Pardon?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]New juntion on the Itchen bridge does allow right turns when coming down off the bridge but the junction is designed using a dangerous, American design where to turn right following it's instructions as a cyclist, you would first have to go straight on and then turn left and then a full 180 to pull up at a second red light o go straight across again, it doesn't take into account, left turning vehicles either.[/p][/quote]Pardon? rjfmusic
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9:28pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Wow..a bike thread in full swing,haven't had one of these for a while!
Wow..a bike thread in full swing,haven't had one of these for a while! Positively4thStreet
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9:33pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

rjfmusic wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
spotburst wrote:
"Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green"
(I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?
New juntion on the Itchen bridge does allow right turns when coming down off the bridge but the junction is designed using a dangerous, American design where to turn right following it's instructions as a cyclist, you would first have to go straight on and then turn left and then a full 180 to pull up at a second red light o go straight across again, it doesn't take into account, left turning vehicles either.
Pardon?
Exactly, it's a confusing design and layout.
[quote][p][bold]rjfmusic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spotburst[/bold] wrote: "Rode down the bridge, signalled to turn right, moved into middle of right hand lane, and turned right when the traffic lights went green" (I don't know where there is but) on the face of this description it seems fine. What's wrong? Is this a 'no right turn' junction?[/p][/quote]New juntion on the Itchen bridge does allow right turns when coming down off the bridge but the junction is designed using a dangerous, American design where to turn right following it's instructions as a cyclist, you would first have to go straight on and then turn left and then a full 180 to pull up at a second red light o go straight across again, it doesn't take into account, left turning vehicles either.[/p][/quote]Pardon?[/p][/quote]Exactly, it's a confusing design and layout. Ginger_cyclist
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9:51pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.
Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.[/p][/quote]Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles? Positively4thStreet
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9:54pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.
Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?
They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.[/p][/quote]Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?[/p][/quote]They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you. Ginger_cyclist
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9:58pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.
Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?
They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.
Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet.
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.[/p][/quote]Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?[/p][/quote]They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.[/p][/quote]Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet. Positively4thStreet
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10:11pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.
Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?
They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.
Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet.
To get the right saddle, you need to get measured for it.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.[/p][/quote]Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?[/p][/quote]They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.[/p][/quote]Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet.[/p][/quote]To get the right saddle, you need to get measured for it. Ginger_cyclist
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1:57pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.
Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?
They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.
Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet.
To get the right saddle, you need to get measured for it.
Can you get a recliner?
[quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.[/p][/quote]Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?[/p][/quote]They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.[/p][/quote]Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet.[/p][/quote]To get the right saddle, you need to get measured for it.[/p][/quote]Can you get a recliner? Positively4thStreet
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5:27pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Ginger_cyclist says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
Ginger_cyclist wrote:
Zexagon wrote:
I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig
So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.
I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying
Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.
Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?
They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.
Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet.
To get the right saddle, you need to get measured for it.
Can you get a recliner?
No and that wouln't be any good for going any sort of distance.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ginger_cyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zexagon[/bold] wrote: I think in this weather I'll stick to my cars air conditioning and get to my destination not smelling and sweating like a pig[/p][/quote]So you'd rather get fat? Ok then.[/p][/quote]I've not ridden a bike since school .I'm not fat, and have played sport at a high level and am still in good shape. I'd rather stand next to a larger clean person than a sweaty smelly one that's all I'm saying[/p][/quote]Also, cycling is good for you in so many ways, you just have to look at the insane muscle mass in my legs to see 1 good thing about cycling, another good thing is it keeps your ticker nice and healthy and it's good for getting rid of stress.[/p][/quote]Doesn't do much for the backside though..when are they going to invent comfy saddles?[/p][/quote]They do, you just need to find the one that's right for you.[/p][/quote]Well I did and the guy at the bike shop talked me out of it.I should've listened to my head,because my @rse hasn't forgiven me yet.[/p][/quote]To get the right saddle, you need to get measured for it.[/p][/quote]Can you get a recliner?[/p][/quote]No and that wouln't be any good for going any sort of distance. Ginger_cyclist
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