Residents tell of shock as bonfire devastates gardens, sheds and conservatories

The blaze in Northlands Road. Picture by Daily Echo reader Petra Arnott

Jill Jordon in her garden after the out-of-control bonfire swept through it.

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A FIRE ripped through seven gardens in a Hampshire street, destroying sheds and conservatories.

The blaze started last night after a bonfire in a garden in Northlands Road, Totton, got out of control at about 5.30pm.

It quickly spread to neighbouring gardens in Bishops Close, destroying fences and four sheds as well as damaging three conservatories.

 

Daily Echo:

A picture of the blaze by Daily Echo reader Petra Arnott

Pensioner Jill Jordan was one of the residents worst affected by the blaze.

The 79-year-old was at home in Bishops Close after 5pm when she saw smoke billowing over her neighbours’ fence.

She said: “I went over and asked them to put it out, as you shouldn’t have bonfires during the day.”

She then went to look after her husband Len, who has dementia, inside the house, before realising something was wrong.

Daily Echo:

Jill Jordan in her devastated garden

She continued: “I realised something was going to happen, the smell was terrible.

“So I decided to get my husband out of the house and call the fire service.”

She went to a relative’s, and returned later in the evening to find most of her beloved garden had been destroyed.

Her shed, plants and a new shed built by her three sons to watch the World Cup were all completely destroyed, while the heat of the fire had melted much of her conservatory.

The great-grandmother continued: “It’s devastating. The damage is just horrific.

“There’s got to be thousands of pounds worth of damage. This garden was my life’s work and it’s gone up in flames.

“I can’t believe it, I can’t shop shaking.”

Her neighbour, 38-year-old Suzie Moore, had been working at the New Forest Show when she received a call to say her garden had been engulfed in the blaze.

She got back after 8pm to find her shed reduced to charred wreckage and a number of her plants and vegetables destroyed.

She said: “It’s been a nightmare – it just shows what fire can do.

“In the end I’m thankful no-one was hurt and the houses were OK.

“In the end it was objects that were destroyed, they can be replaced but it’s still a bit of a shock.

“My garden is black. And my sprouts have died, that’s the saddest thing.”

The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering on several of the houses from metres away and destroyed at least 20 windows.

Firefighters from St Mary's and Redbridge stations were called to the scene and battled the blaze.

No-one was injured.

Daily Echo:

Smoke billows over houses. Picture by Daily Echo reader Petra Arnott

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9:07am Wed 30 Jul 14

rm99uk says...

I cannot understand why people feel the need to have bonfires when they could take their rubbish to the tip. It's so anti social to neighbours
( even when it does not damage their property), in this weather others have windows open, washing out etc .
I cannot understand why people feel the need to have bonfires when they could take their rubbish to the tip. It's so anti social to neighbours ( even when it does not damage their property), in this weather others have windows open, washing out etc . rm99uk
  • Score: 87

9:15am Wed 30 Jul 14

normal1965 says...

floberty flip
floberty flip normal1965
  • Score: -18

9:27am Wed 30 Jul 14

Harrysdog says...

"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.
"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt. Harrysdog
  • Score: -18

10:52am Wed 30 Jul 14

redsnapper says...

I trust the idiot whose fire caused this mayhem will be charged by the police and sued by all the neighbours.

Completely and utterly brainless to have a bonfire in this hot dry summer.
I trust the idiot whose fire caused this mayhem will be charged by the police and sued by all the neighbours. Completely and utterly brainless to have a bonfire in this hot dry summer. redsnapper
  • Score: 86

10:53am Wed 30 Jul 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

I take it there is a hosepipe ban in Totton then??

Hard to believe people would just sit back and watch it get out of control!
I take it there is a hosepipe ban in Totton then?? Hard to believe people would just sit back and watch it get out of control! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: -21

10:54am Wed 30 Jul 14

BeyondImagination says...

Vile anti-social idiot having a bonfire in this weather. People want to have their windoes open and washing on the line. Ban them and heavily fine those selfish people who light up.
Vile anti-social idiot having a bonfire in this weather. People want to have their windoes open and washing on the line. Ban them and heavily fine those selfish people who light up. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 52

11:02am Wed 30 Jul 14

HorndeanSaint says...

Harrysdog wrote:
"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.
So does that make it ok Harry?

We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his.

I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not.
[quote][p][bold]Harrysdog[/bold] wrote: "The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.[/p][/quote]So does that make it ok Harry? We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his. I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not. HorndeanSaint
  • Score: 22

11:04am Wed 30 Jul 14

SL 1809 says...

“My garden is black. And my sprouts have died, that’s the saddest thing.”

What a shame the saddest thing was the sprouts dying!! what about the poor people that have lost thousands of pounds worth of conservatories, sheds, windows, garden tools etc.................
“My garden is black. And my sprouts have died, that’s the saddest thing.” What a shame the saddest thing was the sprouts dying!! what about the poor people that have lost thousands of pounds worth of conservatories, sheds, windows, garden tools etc................. SL 1809
  • Score: 3

11:28am Wed 30 Jul 14

Brock_and_Roll says...

“My garden is black. And my sprouts have died, that’s the saddest thing.”

In context, when there are women and children sheltering in schools in Gaza being killed by shellfire, a few overcooked sprouts does seem a relatively minor problem!
“My garden is black. And my sprouts have died, that’s the saddest thing.” In context, when there are women and children sheltering in schools in Gaza being killed by shellfire, a few overcooked sprouts does seem a relatively minor problem! Brock_and_Roll
  • Score: -10

11:47am Wed 30 Jul 14

southamptonadi says...

Harrysdog wrote:
"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.
Because the guttering was how far away? and it still melted. try holding a lighter at the bottom of the garden see if your guttering melts then.
[quote][p][bold]Harrysdog[/bold] wrote: "The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.[/p][/quote]Because the guttering was how far away? and it still melted. try holding a lighter at the bottom of the garden see if your guttering melts then. southamptonadi
  • Score: 28

11:53am Wed 30 Jul 14

southamptonadi says...

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
“My garden is black. And my sprouts have died, that’s the saddest thing.”

In context, when there are women and children sheltering in schools in Gaza being killed by shellfire, a few overcooked sprouts does seem a relatively minor problem!
Why do I keep seeing comments like this, the war in gaza is irelivent, what do you want us to do?

As a test why dont you find someone that has just burried their only child.

tell them its ok hundreds of people are burying their children in gaza, so get over your loss.

I wonder what they would do? get over it its not for us to worry. its got nothing to do with a story about a garden shed.
[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote: “My garden is black. And my sprouts have died, that’s the saddest thing.” In context, when there are women and children sheltering in schools in Gaza being killed by shellfire, a few overcooked sprouts does seem a relatively minor problem![/p][/quote]Why do I keep seeing comments like this, the war in gaza is irelivent, what do you want us to do? As a test why dont you find someone that has just burried their only child. tell them its ok hundreds of people are burying their children in gaza, so get over your loss. I wonder what they would do? get over it its not for us to worry. its got nothing to do with a story about a garden shed. southamptonadi
  • Score: 33

12:23pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Harrysdog says...

southamptonadi wrote:
Harrysdog wrote:
"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.
Because the guttering was how far away? and it still melted. try holding a lighter at the bottom of the garden see if your guttering melts then.
Look, I'm as devastated as the next man about the loss of sprouts, but if I was you Id take up issue with the echo, as they haven't really painted a dramatic enough picture of the events. To say it was so hot it melted a plastic gutter doesn't really give it enough gravitas. I take it everyone was insured, get nice new items to replace all the old stuff stored in the garages. etc.
[quote][p][bold]southamptonadi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrysdog[/bold] wrote: "The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.[/p][/quote]Because the guttering was how far away? and it still melted. try holding a lighter at the bottom of the garden see if your guttering melts then.[/p][/quote]Look, I'm as devastated as the next man about the loss of sprouts, but if I was you Id take up issue with the echo, as they haven't really painted a dramatic enough picture of the events. To say it was so hot it melted a plastic gutter doesn't really give it enough gravitas. I take it everyone was insured, get nice new items to replace all the old stuff stored in the garages. etc. Harrysdog
  • Score: -14

1:37pm Wed 30 Jul 14

excusemoi says...

Terrible thing to happen. The person who started the bonfire and let it get out of control is culpable. I hope all the residents have insurance.
Terrible thing to happen. The person who started the bonfire and let it get out of control is culpable. I hope all the residents have insurance. excusemoi
  • Score: 8

3:38pm Wed 30 Jul 14

AndyVD says...

HorndeanSaint wrote:
Harrysdog wrote:
"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.
So does that make it ok Harry?

We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his.

I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not.
Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. It needs compression/to be aerosolised to burn. Same goes for jet fuel. So don't post such nonsense.

Either way, this "bonfire" clearly wasn't being supervised, and what ever was being burnt was clearly not meant to be on there.

And I agree with everyone, what idiot starts a fire other than in a BBQ on hot days like this? Not only that, we're in 2014... such things as shredders exist for confidential information should it need to be destroyed, and there are plenty of places to recycle, and get rid of your rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]HorndeanSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrysdog[/bold] wrote: "The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.[/p][/quote]So does that make it ok Harry? We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his. I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not.[/p][/quote]Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. It needs compression/to be aerosolised to burn. Same goes for jet fuel. So don't post such nonsense. Either way, this "bonfire" clearly wasn't being supervised, and what ever was being burnt was clearly not meant to be on there. And I agree with everyone, what idiot starts a fire other than in a BBQ on hot days like this? Not only that, we're in 2014... such things as shredders exist for confidential information should it need to be destroyed, and there are plenty of places to recycle, and get rid of your rubbish. AndyVD
  • Score: 3

3:40pm Wed 30 Jul 14

AndyVD says...

AndyVD wrote:
HorndeanSaint wrote:
Harrysdog wrote:
"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.
So does that make it ok Harry?

We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his.

I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not.
Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. It needs compression/to be aerosolised to burn. Same goes for jet fuel. So don't post such nonsense.

Either way, this "bonfire" clearly wasn't being supervised, and what ever was being burnt was clearly not meant to be on there.

And I agree with everyone, what idiot starts a fire other than in a BBQ on hot days like this? Not only that, we're in 2014... such things as shredders exist for confidential information should it need to be destroyed, and there are plenty of places to recycle, and get rid of your rubbish.
Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. - That was meant to be "is not flammable like petrol".
[quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HorndeanSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrysdog[/bold] wrote: "The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.[/p][/quote]So does that make it ok Harry? We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his. I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not.[/p][/quote]Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. It needs compression/to be aerosolised to burn. Same goes for jet fuel. So don't post such nonsense. Either way, this "bonfire" clearly wasn't being supervised, and what ever was being burnt was clearly not meant to be on there. And I agree with everyone, what idiot starts a fire other than in a BBQ on hot days like this? Not only that, we're in 2014... such things as shredders exist for confidential information should it need to be destroyed, and there are plenty of places to recycle, and get rid of your rubbish.[/p][/quote]Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. - That was meant to be "is not flammable like petrol". AndyVD
  • Score: -2

3:45pm Wed 30 Jul 14

sparkster says...

I cannot understand who in this day and age has a bonfire either when there is tip. Anyone with an iota of common sense stays with the bonfire to make sure it doesnt get out of control, stupid !"^%$
I cannot understand who in this day and age has a bonfire either when there is tip. Anyone with an iota of common sense stays with the bonfire to make sure it doesnt get out of control, stupid !"^%$ sparkster
  • Score: 3

4:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Billy Bowl says...

I think we're all devasted about the loss of the sprouts, will take a long time to come to terms with.
I think we're all devasted about the loss of the sprouts, will take a long time to come to terms with. Billy Bowl
  • Score: 3

4:41pm Wed 30 Jul 14

solents says...

The NFDC website states something along the lines that it is ok to have a bonfire at any time of the day however consideration should be given to neighbours in that the bonfire should not cause a nuisance. So lighting up is ok.
I agree that it's a pain that people choose to light a fire and smoke out the neighbourhood especially when people have windows and doors open to enjoy the cool fresh air.
I had to ask a neighbour of mine to put out their bonfire last night as the smoke from it was filling up my house and stinking it out. I wanted to cook supper and in this weather I certainly didn't want to do that with the windows and doors open. Luckily for me I get on well with him and he put it out straight away.
If it was one of my sheds that had caught fire in this instance then the claim would be dropping throw the guilty neighbours door very quickly and I would be asking for his insurance company details. ..
It's a lesson learned for all pyromaniacs everywhere, if you want to light a fire then make sure the conditions are ok to do so and that you also have the means to put it out straight away if something goes wrong.
The NFDC website states something along the lines that it is ok to have a bonfire at any time of the day however consideration should be given to neighbours in that the bonfire should not cause a nuisance. So lighting up is ok. I agree that it's a pain that people choose to light a fire and smoke out the neighbourhood especially when people have windows and doors open to enjoy the cool fresh air. I had to ask a neighbour of mine to put out their bonfire last night as the smoke from it was filling up my house and stinking it out. I wanted to cook supper and in this weather I certainly didn't want to do that with the windows and doors open. Luckily for me I get on well with him and he put it out straight away. If it was one of my sheds that had caught fire in this instance then the claim would be dropping throw the guilty neighbours door very quickly and I would be asking for his insurance company details. .. It's a lesson learned for all pyromaniacs everywhere, if you want to light a fire then make sure the conditions are ok to do so and that you also have the means to put it out straight away if something goes wrong. solents
  • Score: 6

5:16pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

I really feel sorry for all those people who had their property damaged by an irresponsible neighbour who wasn't paying attention to their bonfire, but for those who think that it's wrong to have a bonfire in the first place because of recycling depots, then I suggest to you that you are forgetting one very important factor in all this 'helpfulness' NOT everyone can drive nor manage to transport their garden waste such as hedge clipping or overgrown tree branches to these recycling points and burning them is the only way they can dispose of it.
If done responsibly I don't see the harm of garden fires especially if you use a proper garden incinerator bin, and as for the smell, I don't see the difference between wood burning in an incinerator or the charcoal burning in the BBQ they are both just as smelly, yet for some reason the BBQ is more acceptable.
Give me the smell of burning wood over the smell of stinky BBQ'ed fish any day of the week.
And before all you haters start on your bandwagon, just remember we can't all be wealthy or 'middle class' enough to afford transportation of any kind to the recycling points. I'm so pleased you have enough money that you can afford to do this.
I really feel sorry for all those people who had their property damaged by an irresponsible neighbour who wasn't paying attention to their bonfire, but for those who think that it's wrong to have a bonfire in the first place because of recycling depots, then I suggest to you that you are forgetting one very important factor in all this 'helpfulness' NOT everyone can drive nor manage to transport their garden waste such as hedge clipping or overgrown tree branches to these recycling points and burning them is the only way they can dispose of it. If done responsibly I don't see the harm of garden fires especially if you use a proper garden incinerator bin, and as for the smell, I don't see the difference between wood burning in an incinerator or the charcoal burning in the BBQ they are both just as smelly, yet for some reason the BBQ is more acceptable. Give me the smell of burning wood over the smell of stinky BBQ'ed fish any day of the week. And before all you haters start on your bandwagon, just remember we can't all be wealthy or 'middle class' enough to afford transportation of any kind to the recycling points. I'm so pleased you have enough money that you can afford to do this. Mrs. W
  • Score: 12

6:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

loosehead says...

If you have a bonfire you are suppose to manage the fire by keeping a watch on it & making sure it doesn't get out of control.
Have a hose pipe ready to put it out if it looks like spreading.
The problem is many people start the bonfire then leave it which is neglect .
Now it seems this house never kept the fire under control so are guilty of neglect & unless they're willing to pay to repair all the damage they should be charged with criminal negligence .
If you have a bonfire you are suppose to manage the fire by keeping a watch on it & making sure it doesn't get out of control. Have a hose pipe ready to put it out if it looks like spreading. The problem is many people start the bonfire then leave it which is neglect . Now it seems this house never kept the fire under control so are guilty of neglect & unless they're willing to pay to repair all the damage they should be charged with criminal negligence . loosehead
  • Score: 1

7:01pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

rm99uk wrote:
I cannot understand why people feel the need to have bonfires when they could take their rubbish to the tip. It's so anti social to neighbours
( even when it does not damage their property), in this weather others have windows open, washing out etc .
I cannot understand why people feel the need to have BBQ's when they could cook on their stove or oven. It's so anti-social to the neighbours. In this weather others have windows open, washing out etc.

See it works both ways, smelly smoke, is smelly smoke, no matter which way you look at it :)
[quote][p][bold]rm99uk[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand why people feel the need to have bonfires when they could take their rubbish to the tip. It's so anti social to neighbours ( even when it does not damage their property), in this weather others have windows open, washing out etc .[/p][/quote]I cannot understand why people feel the need to have BBQ's when they could cook on their stove or oven. It's so anti-social to the neighbours. In this weather others have windows open, washing out etc. See it works both ways, smelly smoke, is smelly smoke, no matter which way you look at it :) Mrs. W
  • Score: 9

7:41pm Wed 30 Jul 14

STRIPEY51 says...

They banned smoking why does the government not ban bonfires, they are a menace and who wants to breath in there stinking unhealthy smoke
put it in the green bin or take it to the tip, or get a hippo bag, it is mostly
pensioners who have bonfires and they have plenty of time to take there rubbish to the tip, come on all residents ban the bonfire as soon as possible.
They banned smoking why does the government not ban bonfires, they are a menace and who wants to breath in there stinking unhealthy smoke put it in the green bin or take it to the tip, or get a hippo bag, it is mostly pensioners who have bonfires and they have plenty of time to take there rubbish to the tip, come on all residents ban the bonfire as soon as possible. STRIPEY51
  • Score: -5

8:05pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Stubs says...

I live in Eastleigh and I could feel the heat of the fire when I was in the garden . Glad they put it out as it was getting very hot here.
I live in Eastleigh and I could feel the heat of the fire when I was in the garden . Glad they put it out as it was getting very hot here. Stubs
  • Score: -5

8:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

STRIPEY51 wrote:
They banned smoking why does the government not ban bonfires, they are a menace and who wants to breath in there stinking unhealthy smoke
put it in the green bin or take it to the tip, or get a hippo bag, it is mostly
pensioners who have bonfires and they have plenty of time to take there rubbish to the tip, come on all residents ban the bonfire as soon as possible.
how do you suggest they take their rubbish to the tip, because you aren't allowed to put garden waste in the green bins, if they don't have any transport? Take the bus with their free bus pass and a huge bag full of garden waste that they can barely lift!
And as for stinking unhealthy smoke you could say the same about BBQ's , so should we ban them too?
[quote][p][bold]STRIPEY51[/bold] wrote: They banned smoking why does the government not ban bonfires, they are a menace and who wants to breath in there stinking unhealthy smoke put it in the green bin or take it to the tip, or get a hippo bag, it is mostly pensioners who have bonfires and they have plenty of time to take there rubbish to the tip, come on all residents ban the bonfire as soon as possible.[/p][/quote]how do you suggest they take their rubbish to the tip, because you aren't allowed to put garden waste in the green bins, if they don't have any transport? Take the bus with their free bus pass and a huge bag full of garden waste that they can barely lift! And as for stinking unhealthy smoke you could say the same about BBQ's , so should we ban them too? Mrs. W
  • Score: 6

8:40pm Wed 30 Jul 14

STRIPEY51 says...

Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van????
Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van???? STRIPEY51
  • Score: -5

8:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

STRIPEY51 says...

Ban the Bonfire in 2014 before we all smell of smoke, and our homes ,because in hot weather we have our windows open, all you bonfire addicts take note, you are about as popular as a **** in a spacesuit.
Ban the Bonfire in 2014 before we all smell of smoke, and our homes ,because in hot weather we have our windows open, all you bonfire addicts take note, you are about as popular as a **** in a spacesuit. STRIPEY51
  • Score: -4

9:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

STRIPEY51 wrote:
Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van????
The green lid bin is for household refuse, the blue lid bins are for recycling plastic tins etc, the Brown lid bins (which you have to pay extra for) are for garden waste. NOT EVERYONE can afford the extra money for the brown lid bins nor the hippo bags You elitist snob
[quote][p][bold]STRIPEY51[/bold] wrote: Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van????[/p][/quote]The green lid bin is for household refuse, the blue lid bins are for recycling plastic tins etc, the Brown lid bins (which you have to pay extra for) are for garden waste. NOT EVERYONE can afford the extra money for the brown lid bins nor the hippo bags You elitist snob Mrs. W
  • Score: 6

9:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

STRIPEY51 says...

Mrs W, I live in Wilts and our garden waste goes into a green bin which is free, and collected once a fortnight, well when I say free I do pay nearly two thousand pounds in council tax, so in theory I do pay , so if you have to pay for your brown bin it is better than a stinky bonfire and cheaper than having to go to a tip, so please can you consider this? and as for the word you called me, I am certainly not one of those.
Mrs W, I live in Wilts and our garden waste goes into a green bin which is free, and collected once a fortnight, well when I say free I do pay nearly two thousand pounds in council tax, so in theory I do pay , so if you have to pay for your brown bin it is better than a stinky bonfire and cheaper than having to go to a tip, so please can you consider this? and as for the word you called me, I am certainly not one of those. STRIPEY51
  • Score: -4

10:06pm Wed 30 Jul 14

westhantsboy says...

Ban bonfires full stop. Inconsiderate, selfish plonkers who have any sort of bonfire between April and October should be fined. I have put my neighbours bonfire out with a hose in the past, he couldn't see an issue???
Ban bonfires full stop. Inconsiderate, selfish plonkers who have any sort of bonfire between April and October should be fined. I have put my neighbours bonfire out with a hose in the past, he couldn't see an issue??? westhantsboy
  • Score: -2

10:51pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

STRIPEY51 wrote:
Mrs W, I live in Wilts and our garden waste goes into a green bin which is free, and collected once a fortnight, well when I say free I do pay nearly two thousand pounds in council tax, so in theory I do pay , so if you have to pay for your brown bin it is better than a stinky bonfire and cheaper than having to go to a tip, so please can you consider this? and as for the word you called me, I am certainly not one of those.
I live in southampton and I ALSO pay council tax, yet WE still have to pay extra if we want a garden refuse bin and quite frankly not everyone can afford the extra cost.
I know that I personally can't afford the extra cost and I burn my garden waste responsibly in a metal bin incinerator in my garden, which is always under supervision. I however notify my neighbours when i'm going to use it, yet my inconsiderate neighbours NEVER notify me when they are about to have a smelly smoky BBQ which they use chemicals such as lighter fluid and fire lighters to ignite it and charcoal briquets, which essentially are charred coal which also gives off fumes, compared to just burning wood, who is polluting more me or them?
[quote][p][bold]STRIPEY51[/bold] wrote: Mrs W, I live in Wilts and our garden waste goes into a green bin which is free, and collected once a fortnight, well when I say free I do pay nearly two thousand pounds in council tax, so in theory I do pay , so if you have to pay for your brown bin it is better than a stinky bonfire and cheaper than having to go to a tip, so please can you consider this? and as for the word you called me, I am certainly not one of those.[/p][/quote]I live in southampton and I ALSO pay council tax, yet WE still have to pay extra if we want a garden refuse bin and quite frankly not everyone can afford the extra cost. I know that I personally can't afford the extra cost and I burn my garden waste responsibly in a metal bin incinerator in my garden, which is always under supervision. I however notify my neighbours when i'm going to use it, yet my inconsiderate neighbours NEVER notify me when they are about to have a smelly smoky BBQ which they use chemicals such as lighter fluid and fire lighters to ignite it and charcoal briquets, which essentially are charred coal which also gives off fumes, compared to just burning wood, who is polluting more me or them? Mrs. W
  • Score: 1

11:36pm Wed 30 Jul 14

sparkster says...

I would rather smell a BBQ than a bonfire and you more or less expect a BBQ during the summer months, our neighbours have them and I have no objection, they use BBQ briquettes and matches, there are those who are daft enough I know to use accelerants which is asking for trouble
I would rather smell a BBQ than a bonfire and you more or less expect a BBQ during the summer months, our neighbours have them and I have no objection, they use BBQ briquettes and matches, there are those who are daft enough I know to use accelerants which is asking for trouble sparkster
  • Score: 1

12:00am Thu 31 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

sparkster wrote:
I would rather smell a BBQ than a bonfire and you more or less expect a BBQ during the summer months, our neighbours have them and I have no objection, they use BBQ briquettes and matches, there are those who are daft enough I know to use accelerants which is asking for trouble
there is a huge difference between a bonfire, where you just burn everything in sight, and burning wood in a controlled environment in an incinerator and to be honest I prefer the smell of burning wood than a BBQ as I DO have neighbours that are stupid enough to use accelerants as do most other people I know who have BBQ's, I personally hate the smell of charred/burnt meat poultry and fish, that stink gets into everything and I have to do my laundry all over again which wastes more gas and electric.
Oh and because summer is the time of year for sorting your garden out ready for the kids to play outside, shouldn't it be expected that people are going to burn things too!!!
[quote][p][bold]sparkster[/bold] wrote: I would rather smell a BBQ than a bonfire and you more or less expect a BBQ during the summer months, our neighbours have them and I have no objection, they use BBQ briquettes and matches, there are those who are daft enough I know to use accelerants which is asking for trouble[/p][/quote]there is a huge difference between a bonfire, where you just burn everything in sight, and burning wood in a controlled environment in an incinerator and to be honest I prefer the smell of burning wood than a BBQ as I DO have neighbours that are stupid enough to use accelerants as do most other people I know who have BBQ's, I personally hate the smell of charred/burnt meat poultry and fish, that stink gets into everything and I have to do my laundry all over again which wastes more gas and electric. Oh and because summer is the time of year for sorting your garden out ready for the kids to play outside, shouldn't it be expected that people are going to burn things too!!! Mrs. W
  • Score: 1

12:54am Thu 31 Jul 14

Poppy22 says...

Mrs. W wrote:
I really feel sorry for all those people who had their property damaged by an irresponsible neighbour who wasn't paying attention to their bonfire, but for those who think that it's wrong to have a bonfire in the first place because of recycling depots, then I suggest to you that you are forgetting one very important factor in all this 'helpfulness' NOT everyone can drive nor manage to transport their garden waste such as hedge clipping or overgrown tree branches to these recycling points and burning them is the only way they can dispose of it. If done responsibly I don't see the harm of garden fires especially if you use a proper garden incinerator bin, and as for the smell, I don't see the difference between wood burning in an incinerator or the charcoal burning in the BBQ they are both just as smelly, yet for some reason the BBQ is more acceptable. Give me the smell of burning wood over the smell of stinky BBQ'ed fish any day of the week. And before all you haters start on your bandwagon, just remember we can't all be wealthy or 'middle class' enough to afford transportation of any kind to the recycling points. I'm so pleased you have enough money that you can afford to do this.
Can't believe this post! Bonfires are anti social and are no doubt one of the main contributors to the fact that 1 in 10 people now has asthma and the incidence of it being newly diagnosed in adults is increasing considerably (news article in the past week).
Compost your garden rubbish if you can't get to a tip (and if you're unable to get to a tip, there are local organisations with volunteers who would help by driving you there with your garden rubbish). Similarly, at least 1 local council charges just over 50p a week (which anyone can afford) to collect garden waste and they provide a huge wheelie bin in which to put the waste.
Bonfires are unacceptable at any time (and any Council which says it is "green" yet allows bonfires needs to do something about it).
People need to use their gardens more and more at all times of the day now - ie any daylight hours - due to the pressure of daily life, long working hours, shift work, working from home etc etc.
Similar with temperatures for over a month at 25-30deg indoors, people need to be able to have their windows open the whole day and not have to close them 5 minutes after opening them due to some totally inconsiderate idiot lighting a bonfire (and, of course, the smoke always goes away from their own house - they're not stupid!).
In Bursledon, there are bonfires almost every day of the week from Spring to Autumn so anywhere we go we're breathing in contaminated air (on top of the polluting M27, A27 and Fawley fallout) and are having to keep our windows shut for much long periods during the summer, and having to spend a fortune on electricity having fans in every room. Totally unacceptable and it's about time all our Councils did something about it, and especially the hypocritical "Tackling Climate Change" Lib Dem Eastleigh Council.
Does there have to be loss of life before our local councils take action against people having bonfires in residential areas?
[quote][p][bold]Mrs. W[/bold] wrote: I really feel sorry for all those people who had their property damaged by an irresponsible neighbour who wasn't paying attention to their bonfire, but for those who think that it's wrong to have a bonfire in the first place because of recycling depots, then I suggest to you that you are forgetting one very important factor in all this 'helpfulness' NOT everyone can drive nor manage to transport their garden waste such as hedge clipping or overgrown tree branches to these recycling points and burning them is the only way they can dispose of it. If done responsibly I don't see the harm of garden fires especially if you use a proper garden incinerator bin, and as for the smell, I don't see the difference between wood burning in an incinerator or the charcoal burning in the BBQ they are both just as smelly, yet for some reason the BBQ is more acceptable. Give me the smell of burning wood over the smell of stinky BBQ'ed fish any day of the week. And before all you haters start on your bandwagon, just remember we can't all be wealthy or 'middle class' enough to afford transportation of any kind to the recycling points. I'm so pleased you have enough money that you can afford to do this.[/p][/quote]Can't believe this post! Bonfires are anti social and are no doubt one of the main contributors to the fact that 1 in 10 people now has asthma and the incidence of it being newly diagnosed in adults is increasing considerably (news article in the past week). Compost your garden rubbish if you can't get to a tip (and if you're unable to get to a tip, there are local organisations with volunteers who would help by driving you there with your garden rubbish). Similarly, at least 1 local council charges just over 50p a week (which anyone can afford) to collect garden waste and they provide a huge wheelie bin in which to put the waste. Bonfires are unacceptable at any time (and any Council which says it is "green" yet allows bonfires needs to do something about it). People need to use their gardens more and more at all times of the day now - ie any daylight hours - due to the pressure of daily life, long working hours, shift work, working from home etc etc. Similar with temperatures for over a month at 25-30deg indoors, people need to be able to have their windows open the whole day and not have to close them 5 minutes after opening them due to some totally inconsiderate idiot lighting a bonfire (and, of course, the smoke always goes away from their own house - they're not stupid!). In Bursledon, there are bonfires almost every day of the week from Spring to Autumn so anywhere we go we're breathing in contaminated air (on top of the polluting M27, A27 and Fawley fallout) and are having to keep our windows shut for much long periods during the summer, and having to spend a fortune on electricity having fans in every room. Totally unacceptable and it's about time all our Councils did something about it, and especially the hypocritical "Tackling Climate Change" Lib Dem Eastleigh Council. Does there have to be loss of life before our local councils take action against people having bonfires in residential areas? Poppy22
  • Score: -1

5:47am Thu 31 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

Poppy22 wrote:
Mrs. W wrote:
I really feel sorry for all those people who had their property damaged by an irresponsible neighbour who wasn't paying attention to their bonfire, but for those who think that it's wrong to have a bonfire in the first place because of recycling depots, then I suggest to you that you are forgetting one very important factor in all this 'helpfulness' NOT everyone can drive nor manage to transport their garden waste such as hedge clipping or overgrown tree branches to these recycling points and burning them is the only way they can dispose of it. If done responsibly I don't see the harm of garden fires especially if you use a proper garden incinerator bin, and as for the smell, I don't see the difference between wood burning in an incinerator or the charcoal burning in the BBQ they are both just as smelly, yet for some reason the BBQ is more acceptable. Give me the smell of burning wood over the smell of stinky BBQ'ed fish any day of the week. And before all you haters start on your bandwagon, just remember we can't all be wealthy or 'middle class' enough to afford transportation of any kind to the recycling points. I'm so pleased you have enough money that you can afford to do this.
Can't believe this post! Bonfires are anti social and are no doubt one of the main contributors to the fact that 1 in 10 people now has asthma and the incidence of it being newly diagnosed in adults is increasing considerably (news article in the past week).
Compost your garden rubbish if you can't get to a tip (and if you're unable to get to a tip, there are local organisations with volunteers who would help by driving you there with your garden rubbish). Similarly, at least 1 local council charges just over 50p a week (which anyone can afford) to collect garden waste and they provide a huge wheelie bin in which to put the waste.
Bonfires are unacceptable at any time (and any Council which says it is "green" yet allows bonfires needs to do something about it).
People need to use their gardens more and more at all times of the day now - ie any daylight hours - due to the pressure of daily life, long working hours, shift work, working from home etc etc.
Similar with temperatures for over a month at 25-30deg indoors, people need to be able to have their windows open the whole day and not have to close them 5 minutes after opening them due to some totally inconsiderate idiot lighting a bonfire (and, of course, the smoke always goes away from their own house - they're not stupid!).
In Bursledon, there are bonfires almost every day of the week from Spring to Autumn so anywhere we go we're breathing in contaminated air (on top of the polluting M27, A27 and Fawley fallout) and are having to keep our windows shut for much long periods during the summer, and having to spend a fortune on electricity having fans in every room. Totally unacceptable and it's about time all our Councils did something about it, and especially the hypocritical "Tackling Climate Change" Lib Dem Eastleigh Council.
Does there have to be loss of life before our local councils take action against people having bonfires in residential areas?
yes bonfires can aggravate asthma but guess what so does BBQ's. I should know I am asthmatic and have been since I was a child, and every time my neighbour decides they want a BBQ it's sets my asthma off. If you want to ban everything that causes asthma or exacerbates asthma then BAN BBQ's as well, oh and while we're at it why not ban the dry ice machines in night clubs or at concerts. Your argument holds no water. I consider BBQ's to be anti-social.
And as for the 50p per day, guess what they want the WHOLE amount for the WHOLE year in advance which yes you guessed it I can't afford, and as for the supposed help from local organisation guess what I have contacted them and they initially agree to help but then never actually do it due to the fact that we are NOT on benefits my husband works and I am a Mum, and as for composters firstly they also cost money to purchase secondly they smell worse than bonfires and BBQ's put together.
You have absolutely no clue what real life on a low income really is, I'm so pleased for you that you have this optimistic (i got an answer for everything) view you got going. You seem like the sort of person that even believes that social services only have the best interests of the child in mind when they rip innocent families apart.
I use my garden everyday all hours of the day as I have 4 kids at home, do you really think burning a little bit of wood from a cut back shrub in a metal bin incinerator under close supervision late in the evening i.e 7.30pm once a month with neighbour notice so they can get their washing in off the line is more polluting than that stinky BBQ being used 2 or 3 times a week without any notice so I can get my washing in off the line. Who is the anti-social one in that scenario? Because I live it every week because my neighbours are at home and NOT working
[quote][p][bold]Poppy22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs. W[/bold] wrote: I really feel sorry for all those people who had their property damaged by an irresponsible neighbour who wasn't paying attention to their bonfire, but for those who think that it's wrong to have a bonfire in the first place because of recycling depots, then I suggest to you that you are forgetting one very important factor in all this 'helpfulness' NOT everyone can drive nor manage to transport their garden waste such as hedge clipping or overgrown tree branches to these recycling points and burning them is the only way they can dispose of it. If done responsibly I don't see the harm of garden fires especially if you use a proper garden incinerator bin, and as for the smell, I don't see the difference between wood burning in an incinerator or the charcoal burning in the BBQ they are both just as smelly, yet for some reason the BBQ is more acceptable. Give me the smell of burning wood over the smell of stinky BBQ'ed fish any day of the week. And before all you haters start on your bandwagon, just remember we can't all be wealthy or 'middle class' enough to afford transportation of any kind to the recycling points. I'm so pleased you have enough money that you can afford to do this.[/p][/quote]Can't believe this post! Bonfires are anti social and are no doubt one of the main contributors to the fact that 1 in 10 people now has asthma and the incidence of it being newly diagnosed in adults is increasing considerably (news article in the past week). Compost your garden rubbish if you can't get to a tip (and if you're unable to get to a tip, there are local organisations with volunteers who would help by driving you there with your garden rubbish). Similarly, at least 1 local council charges just over 50p a week (which anyone can afford) to collect garden waste and they provide a huge wheelie bin in which to put the waste. Bonfires are unacceptable at any time (and any Council which says it is "green" yet allows bonfires needs to do something about it). People need to use their gardens more and more at all times of the day now - ie any daylight hours - due to the pressure of daily life, long working hours, shift work, working from home etc etc. Similar with temperatures for over a month at 25-30deg indoors, people need to be able to have their windows open the whole day and not have to close them 5 minutes after opening them due to some totally inconsiderate idiot lighting a bonfire (and, of course, the smoke always goes away from their own house - they're not stupid!). In Bursledon, there are bonfires almost every day of the week from Spring to Autumn so anywhere we go we're breathing in contaminated air (on top of the polluting M27, A27 and Fawley fallout) and are having to keep our windows shut for much long periods during the summer, and having to spend a fortune on electricity having fans in every room. Totally unacceptable and it's about time all our Councils did something about it, and especially the hypocritical "Tackling Climate Change" Lib Dem Eastleigh Council. Does there have to be loss of life before our local councils take action against people having bonfires in residential areas?[/p][/quote]yes bonfires can aggravate asthma but guess what so does BBQ's. I should know I am asthmatic and have been since I was a child, and every time my neighbour decides they want a BBQ it's sets my asthma off. If you want to ban everything that causes asthma or exacerbates asthma then BAN BBQ's as well, oh and while we're at it why not ban the dry ice machines in night clubs or at concerts. Your argument holds no water. I consider BBQ's to be anti-social. And as for the 50p per day, guess what they want the WHOLE amount for the WHOLE year in advance which yes you guessed it I can't afford, and as for the supposed help from local organisation guess what I have contacted them and they initially agree to help but then never actually do it due to the fact that we are NOT on benefits my husband works and I am a Mum, and as for composters firstly they also cost money to purchase secondly they smell worse than bonfires and BBQ's put together. You have absolutely no clue what real life on a low income really is, I'm so pleased for you that you have this optimistic (i got an answer for everything) view you got going. You seem like the sort of person that even believes that social services only have the best interests of the child in mind when they rip innocent families apart. I use my garden everyday all hours of the day as I have 4 kids at home, do you really think burning a little bit of wood from a cut back shrub in a metal bin incinerator under close supervision late in the evening i.e 7.30pm once a month with neighbour notice so they can get their washing in off the line is more polluting than that stinky BBQ being used 2 or 3 times a week without any notice so I can get my washing in off the line. Who is the anti-social one in that scenario? Because I live it every week because my neighbours are at home and NOT working Mrs. W
  • Score: -4

11:50am Thu 31 Jul 14

PenryPooch says...

STRIPEY51 wrote:
Mrs W, I live in Wilts and our garden waste goes into a green bin which is free, and collected once a fortnight, well when I say free I do pay nearly two thousand pounds in council tax, so in theory I do pay , so if you have to pay for your brown bin it is better than a stinky bonfire and cheaper than having to go to a tip, so please can you consider this? and as for the word you called me, I am certainly not one of those.
You can get a bin? You're lucky! The fire was in Totton which falls under NFDC and we don't even get a normal wheelie bin. All we get are black and clear bin-bags (which the local animals pull apart and scatter contents everywhere). For garden waste you have to pay for a green bag which is collected every 2 weeks - subscription is £20-30 a year IIRC. One could consider that if proper refuse receptacles were provided by the council there would be less need for bonfires. I did enquire of NFDC, when I moved in, as to why they didn't provide wheelie bins - a snobbish reply received about how they held a vote years ago and the consensus was that they made the streets untidy. Apparently that is worse than torn bin bags and general detritus scattered over the roads and pavements.......
[quote][p][bold]STRIPEY51[/bold] wrote: Mrs W, I live in Wilts and our garden waste goes into a green bin which is free, and collected once a fortnight, well when I say free I do pay nearly two thousand pounds in council tax, so in theory I do pay , so if you have to pay for your brown bin it is better than a stinky bonfire and cheaper than having to go to a tip, so please can you consider this? and as for the word you called me, I am certainly not one of those.[/p][/quote]You can get a bin? You're lucky! The fire was in Totton which falls under NFDC and we don't even get a normal wheelie bin. All we get are black and clear bin-bags (which the local animals pull apart and scatter contents everywhere). For garden waste you have to pay for a green bag which is collected every 2 weeks - subscription is £20-30 a year IIRC. One could consider that if proper refuse receptacles were provided by the council there would be less need for bonfires. I did enquire of NFDC, when I moved in, as to why they didn't provide wheelie bins - a snobbish reply received about how they held a vote years ago and the consensus was that they made the streets untidy. Apparently that is worse than torn bin bags and general detritus scattered over the roads and pavements....... PenryPooch
  • Score: 3

11:57am Thu 31 Jul 14

PenryPooch says...

Mrs. W wrote:
STRIPEY51 wrote:
Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van????
The green lid bin is for household refuse, the blue lid bins are for recycling plastic tins etc, the Brown lid bins (which you have to pay extra for) are for garden waste. NOT EVERYONE can afford the extra money for the brown lid bins nor the hippo bags You elitist snob
This particular incident was in Totton, which falls under NFDC. They provide nothing other than black and clear bin-bags - which the local wildlfe loves to tear open and scatter the contents over the road and pavements. Garden refuse collection consists of you paying £20-30 a year for a green bag which is collected once a fortnight.
One might postulate that if the council actually provided proper refuse receptacles (wheelie-bins), there would be less need for bonfires. I once enquired to NFDC about why they didn't provide such - the response was that they had a vote once and the result was that they made the area look untidy. That's apparently worse than piles of bin bags and rubbish/food waste scattered all over the place once a week.
[quote][p][bold]Mrs. W[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STRIPEY51[/bold] wrote: Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van????[/p][/quote]The green lid bin is for household refuse, the blue lid bins are for recycling plastic tins etc, the Brown lid bins (which you have to pay extra for) are for garden waste. NOT EVERYONE can afford the extra money for the brown lid bins nor the hippo bags You elitist snob[/p][/quote]This particular incident was in Totton, which falls under NFDC. They provide nothing other than black and clear bin-bags - which the local wildlfe loves to tear open and scatter the contents over the road and pavements. Garden refuse collection consists of you paying £20-30 a year for a green bag which is collected once a fortnight. One might postulate that if the council actually provided proper refuse receptacles (wheelie-bins), there would be less need for bonfires. I once enquired to NFDC about why they didn't provide such - the response was that they had a vote once and the result was that they made the area look untidy. That's apparently worse than piles of bin bags and rubbish/food waste scattered all over the place once a week. PenryPooch
  • Score: 1

6:39pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Mrs. W says...

PenryPooch wrote:
Mrs. W wrote:
STRIPEY51 wrote:
Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van????
The green lid bin is for household refuse, the blue lid bins are for recycling plastic tins etc, the Brown lid bins (which you have to pay extra for) are for garden waste. NOT EVERYONE can afford the extra money for the brown lid bins nor the hippo bags You elitist snob
This particular incident was in Totton, which falls under NFDC. They provide nothing other than black and clear bin-bags - which the local wildlfe loves to tear open and scatter the contents over the road and pavements. Garden refuse collection consists of you paying £20-30 a year for a green bag which is collected once a fortnight.
One might postulate that if the council actually provided proper refuse receptacles (wheelie-bins), there would be less need for bonfires. I once enquired to NFDC about why they didn't provide such - the response was that they had a vote once and the result was that they made the area look untidy. That's apparently worse than piles of bin bags and rubbish/food waste scattered all over the place once a week.
I personally think that ALL councils should supply the 3 different kinds of wheelie bins ( Household refuse - Green Lid, Recycling - Blue Lid, Garden Waste - Brown Lid and the Grey Glass Bin/Container FREE of charge to ALL residents. After all we pay enough in council tax every year.
Household refuse should be collected weekly and all other bins alternating fortnightly.
Now I know this won't stop all bonfires but it would reduce them vastly.
If I was given a garden waste bin free of charge I would use it and would have no need to use my incinerator, unless they refused to take my hedge and rose bush clippings and the odd ash tree sapling that seems to pop up in random places in my garden
[quote][p][bold]PenryPooch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrs. W[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]STRIPEY51[/bold] wrote: Mrs W, your green bin is for all garden waste, BBQ s are a different sort of smoke, if you cannot get to the tip get a hippo bag fill that up and then get it collected, sorted. or hire a man with a van????[/p][/quote]The green lid bin is for household refuse, the blue lid bins are for recycling plastic tins etc, the Brown lid bins (which you have to pay extra for) are for garden waste. NOT EVERYONE can afford the extra money for the brown lid bins nor the hippo bags You elitist snob[/p][/quote]This particular incident was in Totton, which falls under NFDC. They provide nothing other than black and clear bin-bags - which the local wildlfe loves to tear open and scatter the contents over the road and pavements. Garden refuse collection consists of you paying £20-30 a year for a green bag which is collected once a fortnight. One might postulate that if the council actually provided proper refuse receptacles (wheelie-bins), there would be less need for bonfires. I once enquired to NFDC about why they didn't provide such - the response was that they had a vote once and the result was that they made the area look untidy. That's apparently worse than piles of bin bags and rubbish/food waste scattered all over the place once a week.[/p][/quote]I personally think that ALL councils should supply the 3 different kinds of wheelie bins ( Household refuse - Green Lid, Recycling - Blue Lid, Garden Waste - Brown Lid and the Grey Glass Bin/Container FREE of charge to ALL residents. After all we pay enough in council tax every year. Household refuse should be collected weekly and all other bins alternating fortnightly. Now I know this won't stop all bonfires but it would reduce them vastly. If I was given a garden waste bin free of charge I would use it and would have no need to use my incinerator, unless they refused to take my hedge and rose bush clippings and the odd ash tree sapling that seems to pop up in random places in my garden Mrs. W
  • Score: -1

6:54pm Thu 31 Jul 14

sparkster says...

Eastleigh has a garden waste collection scheme which is great, we are lucky we dont live far from the tip and when our bags are full we go to the tip
Eastleigh has a garden waste collection scheme which is great, we are lucky we dont live far from the tip and when our bags are full we go to the tip sparkster
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

southamptonadi says...

AndyVD wrote:
AndyVD wrote:
HorndeanSaint wrote:
Harrysdog wrote:
"The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.
So does that make it ok Harry?

We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his.

I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not.
Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. It needs compression/to be aerosolised to burn. Same goes for jet fuel. So don't post such nonsense.

Either way, this "bonfire" clearly wasn't being supervised, and what ever was being burnt was clearly not meant to be on there.

And I agree with everyone, what idiot starts a fire other than in a BBQ on hot days like this? Not only that, we're in 2014... such things as shredders exist for confidential information should it need to be destroyed, and there are plenty of places to recycle, and get rid of your rubbish.
Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. - That was meant to be "is not flammable like petrol".
Back up fella,

Are you really saying diesel is not flammable,

1. How do you think it makes cars go.
2. Do you not remember the buncefield depot fire, that was a diesel facility.

Yes it does burn, petrol will ignite from -45 degrees but diesel needs to be around 125 degrees before it will ignite, making it safer, thus why diesel will not burn in normal circumstances, but when hot enough it will burn
[quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AndyVD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HorndeanSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harrysdog[/bold] wrote: "The heat of the fire was so extreme that it melted guttering"...If you held a lighter to a gutter, it would probably melt.[/p][/quote]So does that make it ok Harry? We have a pyromaniac neighbour who thinks that the best way to light a bonfire is with a gallon of diesel and cares not a jot about the mountains of ash that settle on any car or garden or washing line as long as it isn't his. I thought there were byelaws in place to stop this kind of behaviour, seemingly not.[/p][/quote]Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. It needs compression/to be aerosolised to burn. Same goes for jet fuel. So don't post such nonsense. Either way, this "bonfire" clearly wasn't being supervised, and what ever was being burnt was clearly not meant to be on there. And I agree with everyone, what idiot starts a fire other than in a BBQ on hot days like this? Not only that, we're in 2014... such things as shredders exist for confidential information should it need to be destroyed, and there are plenty of places to recycle, and get rid of your rubbish.[/p][/quote]Diesel doesn't burn with a match, its not combustible like petrol. - That was meant to be "is not flammable like petrol".[/p][/quote]Back up fella, Are you really saying diesel is not flammable, 1. How do you think it makes cars go. 2. Do you not remember the buncefield depot fire, that was a diesel facility. Yes it does burn, petrol will ignite from -45 degrees but diesel needs to be around 125 degrees before it will ignite, making it safer, thus why diesel will not burn in normal circumstances, but when hot enough it will burn southamptonadi
  • Score: 0

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