Bosses of Southampton and Hampshire councils earned more than Prime Minister David Cameron

Which council chiefs earned more than the Prime Minister?

Which council chiefs earned more than the Prime Minister?

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TWO Hampshire council chiefs earned more in a year than the Prime Minister, new figures reveal today.

Hampshire County Council chief executive Andrew Smith’s salary was £207,372 in 2012-13 while his former counterpart in Southampton, earned £149,530, according to the Taxpayers’ Alliance (TPA) Town Hall Rich List.

Daily Echo: HERO: Alistair Neill

Former Southampton City Council chief executive Alistair Neill

The Prime Minister’s salary was £142,500.

But in an era of austerity for councils in Hampshire the figures show the number of bosses on packages worth more than £100,000 dropped significantly – from 54 in 2011-12 to 30 in 2012-13.

In Southampton, where city council bosses have shed more than £30 million worth of services and hundreds of jobs in the last two years alone, the number of officers with packages of £100,000 or more dropped from 18 to five.

At Hampshire County Council the number dropped from 28 to 15 in 2012-13, with council chiefs tasked with finding £340 million more savings by the 2017-18.

Mr Smith was the highest paid, with total remuneration of £234,538 in 2012-13, including employer pension contributions.

Daily Echo:

Hampshire County Council chief executive Andrew Smith

Southampton City Council’s former director of children’s services and learning Clive Webster’s £94,234 redundancy payout led to him receiving £227,012 in 2012-13.

Jonathan Isaby, the TPA’s chief executive, said: “It is good news that the number of senior council staff making more than £100,000 a year is falling, although that may only be because many authorities have finished paying eye-watering redundancy bills.

“Taxpayers expect their council to be filling potholes not pay packets.”

A county council spokesman said it had reduced senior mangers by 15 per cent in recent years, adding: “Our response to a 43 per cent reduction in Government grant, with further cuts to come, has been to reshape services and do things differently, including sharing capacity and costs with partners. This has helped us ease the burden on hard-pressed taxpayers and to keep their council tax frozen for five years in a row – the lowest bill in the South East.”

A spokesman for the city council said: “Southampton City Council is committed to providing value for money, which is why we have significantly reduced the number of senior managers in recent years. Remaining senior staff also took a 5.5 per cent pay cut in 2011, the largest proportionate reduction of any staff group.

“Both measures have reduced the pay bill and have resulted in a leaner, more efficient and cost-effective organisation, better prepared to face the challenges of the coming years.”

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8:29am Tue 5 Aug 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster.

By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware!
The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster. By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware! FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: 10

8:45am Tue 5 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster.

By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware!
The public sector grew exponentially 97-2010 and indeed, as Liam Byrne said, everything was borrowed/spent on it and not a bean left. You seriously think that trimming some fat off that beast is "destruction of the public sector"? Believe me, these Council promoted clerks have little to do but make sure their sinecures can continue-and they will.
[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster. By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware![/p][/quote]The public sector grew exponentially 97-2010 and indeed, as Liam Byrne said, everything was borrowed/spent on it and not a bean left. You seriously think that trimming some fat off that beast is "destruction of the public sector"? Believe me, these Council promoted clerks have little to do but make sure their sinecures can continue-and they will. Dai Rear
  • Score: 6

9:23am Tue 5 Aug 14

sparkster says...

The council are cutting back on various services, how about reducing the excessive salary of the executives and putting that money where it's needed
The council are cutting back on various services, how about reducing the excessive salary of the executives and putting that money where it's needed sparkster
  • Score: 7

11:15am Tue 5 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster.

By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware!
Instead of trying to promote a conspiracy theory, try asking the simple question, is the article telling the truth because you can try to water down any story by introducing unanswered questions that you are personally curious about. I could on the other hand, go along the same lines and ask why the Labour controlled Glasgow council has thirty two executives earning £100K + and David Crawford, the executive director of social care services, was the best-paid council civil servant in the UK, with his total package, including a redundancy payment, coming to £486,303. I think readers should be grateful that the TPA continues to highlight these excesses across all councils however the 'shadowy' the TPA seems to be.
[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster. By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware![/p][/quote]Instead of trying to promote a conspiracy theory, try asking the simple question, is the article telling the truth because you can try to water down any story by introducing unanswered questions that you are personally curious about. I could on the other hand, go along the same lines and ask why the Labour controlled Glasgow council has thirty two executives earning £100K + and David Crawford, the executive director of social care services, was the best-paid council civil servant in the UK, with his total package, including a redundancy payment, coming to £486,303. I think readers should be grateful that the TPA continues to highlight these excesses across all councils however the 'shadowy' the TPA seems to be. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

12:01pm Tue 5 Aug 14

southy says...

Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name. southy
  • Score: -2

12:10pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Fool.

Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware.

This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.[/p][/quote]Fool. Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware. This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you. Shoong
  • Score: -1

12:19pm Tue 5 Aug 14

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Fool.

Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware.

This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.
Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.[/p][/quote]Fool. Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware. This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.[/p][/quote]Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information. southy
  • Score: -2

12:38pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Fool.

Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware.

This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.
Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.
3 years of Uni.
6 years in Internet security at IBM.
2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue.
Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service.


But what do I know? Peter has all the answers.

Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically.

Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that?

Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it?

Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine.

And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ.

But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet.

Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.[/p][/quote]Fool. Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware. This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.[/p][/quote]Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.[/p][/quote]3 years of Uni. 6 years in Internet security at IBM. 2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue. Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service. But what do I know? Peter has all the answers. Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically. Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that? Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it? Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about. You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine. And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ. But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet. Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him. Shoong
  • Score: 3

1:30pm Tue 5 Aug 14

sarfhamton says...

No one needs to earn more than 100k a year, private or public sector. Its just greed.
No one needs to earn more than 100k a year, private or public sector. Its just greed. sarfhamton
  • Score: 2

1:34pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Cyber__Fug says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Fool.

Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware.

This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.
Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.
3 years of Uni.
6 years in Internet security at IBM.
2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue.
Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service.


But what do I know? Peter has all the answers.

Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically.

Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that?

Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it?

Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine.

And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ.

But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet.

Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.
I predict one of two things will happen next.....

1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda.
2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.[/p][/quote]Fool. Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware. This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.[/p][/quote]Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.[/p][/quote]3 years of Uni. 6 years in Internet security at IBM. 2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue. Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service. But what do I know? Peter has all the answers. Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically. Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that? Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it? Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about. You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine. And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ. But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet. Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.[/p][/quote]I predict one of two things will happen next..... 1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda. 2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool. Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 5

1:36pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else. Dai Rear
  • Score: 3

1:41pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shoong says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Fool.

Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware.

This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.
Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.
3 years of Uni.
6 years in Internet security at IBM.
2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue.
Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service.


But what do I know? Peter has all the answers.

Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically.

Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that?

Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it?

Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine.

And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ.

But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet.

Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.
I predict one of two things will happen next.....

1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda.
2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool.
Of course.

Now, my lunch break is over so must crack on trying to protect mugs from getting ripped off when using the internet...
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.[/p][/quote]Fool. Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware. This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.[/p][/quote]Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.[/p][/quote]3 years of Uni. 6 years in Internet security at IBM. 2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue. Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service. But what do I know? Peter has all the answers. Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically. Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that? Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it? Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about. You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine. And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ. But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet. Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.[/p][/quote]I predict one of two things will happen next..... 1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda. 2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool.[/p][/quote]Of course. Now, my lunch break is over so must crack on trying to protect mugs from getting ripped off when using the internet... Shoong
  • Score: -1

2:20pm Tue 5 Aug 14

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Fool.

Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware.

This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.
Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.
3 years of Uni.
6 years in Internet security at IBM.
2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue.
Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service.


But what do I know? Peter has all the answers.

Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically.

Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that?

Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it?

Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine.

And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ.

But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet.

Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.
I predict one of two things will happen next.....

1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda.
2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool.
Of course.

Now, my lunch break is over so must crack on trying to protect mugs from getting ripped off when using the internet...
All of that and he/she still not learned a thing about what go's on in life.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.[/p][/quote]Fool. Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware. This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.[/p][/quote]Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.[/p][/quote]3 years of Uni. 6 years in Internet security at IBM. 2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue. Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service. But what do I know? Peter has all the answers. Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically. Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that? Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it? Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about. You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine. And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ. But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet. Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.[/p][/quote]I predict one of two things will happen next..... 1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda. 2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool.[/p][/quote]Of course. Now, my lunch break is over so must crack on trying to protect mugs from getting ripped off when using the internet...[/p][/quote]All of that and he/she still not learned a thing about what go's on in life. southy
  • Score: -5

2:26pm Tue 5 Aug 14

southy says...

Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life southy
  • Score: -3

2:29pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie

Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4.
Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.
Fool.

Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware.

This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.
Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.
3 years of Uni.
6 years in Internet security at IBM.
2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue.
Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service.


But what do I know? Peter has all the answers.

Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically.

Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that?

Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it?

Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine.

And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ.

But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet.

Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.
I predict one of two things will happen next.....

1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda.
2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool.
Of course.

Now, my lunch break is over so must crack on trying to protect mugs from getting ripped off when using the internet...
All of that and he/she still not learned a thing about what go's on in life.
Coming from someone who is twice the age I am and lives in a childish fantasy land, that's excellent.

There's a difference between knowing what you are talking about and merely thinking you know what you are talking about and deluding yourself into believing it is true.

Now, show some humility and quit this one.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Torchie Try doing this change the domain name, (.onion instead of .com) and see if you get a hit there are loads of different domains that are hiden or down load Tor, but becareful with this one Tor was created by the Cia to protect its intrests like in Syria and its support for terrorist aka freedom fighters but there are many other things going on. as soon as you go onto this hiden site you will be watch by the Government Agencys like Blackwater or G4. Pages that you see on such search engines as Google only show the tip of the information that is out there like on Google there are well over 9 billion pages that are hiden, pages that that was around in the very early days of search engines like MSN no longer easy available to general public but still there for people to see and read when you change the domain name.[/p][/quote]Fool. Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware. This is a well known tactic by internet fraudsters to take in mugs like you.[/p][/quote]Not all are you idiot fool, and fraudster will use .com or .co.** more than the alteritive hiden pages, there are people that are hiden like your super rich and powerful that do transactions on hiden pages, or is it a case you don't want people to start looking in the right places for information.[/p][/quote]3 years of Uni. 6 years in Internet security at IBM. 2 years in working on security algorithms for De La Rue. Senior Partner in Internet security with the Civil Service. But what do I know? Peter has all the answers. Google and other search engines are not *the* internet. Just because a site or page is not listed on Google, that does not make it 'hidden'. No-one is obliged to let any search engine find their sites and it does not happen automatically. Transactions on hidden pages? Do me a favour. How secure is that? Anyone with a hidden agenda is hardly going to let anyone find these clandestine sites just by changing the domain name. Because that's the highest level of security isn't it? Having worked with former hackers that have turned to ethical hacking, I can reliably inform you that you have no idea what you are talking about. You're a big fan of conspiracy theories and there probably is one going on here - someone is probably key logging everything you type on a server in the Cayman Islands thanks to you giving them access to your machine. And if you have been accessing 'hidden' CIA sites, I suggest a flight to a non-extradition treaty country PDQ. But of course you haven't so have nothing to worry about, unless you have been using card details to order goods from the internet. Gary McKinnon you ain't, although I do think that perhaps you do have something common with him.[/p][/quote]I predict one of two things will happen next..... 1/ He'll declare that everything that you have posted will be right wing propaganda. 2/ He will just disappear like normal when proven to be a fool.[/p][/quote]Of course. Now, my lunch break is over so must crack on trying to protect mugs from getting ripped off when using the internet...[/p][/quote]All of that and he/she still not learned a thing about what go's on in life.[/p][/quote]Coming from someone who is twice the age I am and lives in a childish fantasy land, that's excellent. There's a difference between knowing what you are talking about and merely thinking you know what you are talking about and deluding yourself into believing it is true. Now, show some humility and quit this one. Shoong
  • Score: 4

3:06pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Cyber__Fug says...

southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
...as opposed to being a Luddite who thinks the real world belongs back in the 1850's.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]...as opposed to being a Luddite who thinks the real world belongs back in the 1850's. Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 1

3:13pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
Whoever gets voted in it will be a posh Oxbridge elite, dad is a famous Marxist academic, married to hot shot lawyer type. Nearest we ever made to working class were , I suppose, Ramsay McDonald and Kinnock, and neither of them much to write home about. What's any of that got to do with the town hall fat cat party, any more than the geek stuff? What's "real life" anyway? Your political delusions are as real to you as they are senseless to almost anyone else. The CameCleggypedes all live life in the W. Hampstead Bubble for sure, but would the quality of views on world affairs be superior from a group of professional non-workers in a public housing project? Pace "Benefits Street", probably not.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]Whoever gets voted in it will be a posh Oxbridge elite, dad is a famous Marxist academic, married to hot shot lawyer type. Nearest we ever made to working class were , I suppose, Ramsay McDonald and Kinnock, and neither of them much to write home about. What's any of that got to do with the town hall fat cat party, any more than the geek stuff? What's "real life" anyway? Your political delusions are as real to you as they are senseless to almost anyone else. The CameCleggypedes all live life in the W. Hampstead Bubble for sure, but would the quality of views on world affairs be superior from a group of professional non-workers in a public housing project? Pace "Benefits Street", probably not. Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

4:08pm Tue 5 Aug 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster.

By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware!
Instead of trying to promote a conspiracy theory, try asking the simple question, is the article telling the truth because you can try to water down any story by introducing unanswered questions that you are personally curious about. I could on the other hand, go along the same lines and ask why the Labour controlled Glasgow council has thirty two executives earning £100K + and David Crawford, the executive director of social care services, was the best-paid council civil servant in the UK, with his total package, including a redundancy payment, coming to £486,303. I think readers should be grateful that the TPA continues to highlight these excesses across all councils however the 'shadowy' the TPA seems to be.
Oh yeah. How about Tory Wandsworth where their chief executive grosses £240,000 p.a. and where there are no fewer that 29 executives on over £100k? Wandsworth is the same size as Southampton is has been even more zealous about privatisation so I can't understand why their senior management wage bill is 2.5 times that in Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: The question is whether these highly paid Council chief executives/ executive directors give good value for money. People in Southampton might like to reflect on the achievements of the likes of Alistair Neill (appointed by the Conservative administration) and former Children's Services boss, Clive Webster. By the way, I am deeply suspicious of organisations like the Taxpayers Alliance and where it gets its money from. For example why don't they tell us how much money the executives of firms like Capita or Balfour Beatty earn given that whole chunks of Council services have been 'outsourced' to them? The TPA is a shadowy organisation committed to the destruction of our public services - readers beware![/p][/quote]Instead of trying to promote a conspiracy theory, try asking the simple question, is the article telling the truth because you can try to water down any story by introducing unanswered questions that you are personally curious about. I could on the other hand, go along the same lines and ask why the Labour controlled Glasgow council has thirty two executives earning £100K + and David Crawford, the executive director of social care services, was the best-paid council civil servant in the UK, with his total package, including a redundancy payment, coming to £486,303. I think readers should be grateful that the TPA continues to highlight these excesses across all councils however the 'shadowy' the TPA seems to be.[/p][/quote]Oh yeah. How about Tory Wandsworth where their chief executive grosses £240,000 p.a. and where there are no fewer that 29 executives on over £100k? Wandsworth is the same size as Southampton is has been even more zealous about privatisation so I can't understand why their senior management wage bill is 2.5 times that in Southampton. FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking?

All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in.

Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one.

Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it.

I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol.

Lots of work in that sector is there..?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking? All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in. Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one. Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it. I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol. Lots of work in that sector is there..? Shoong
  • Score: 1

4:33pm Tue 5 Aug 14

southy says...

Dai Rear wrote:
southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
Whoever gets voted in it will be a posh Oxbridge elite, dad is a famous Marxist academic, married to hot shot lawyer type. Nearest we ever made to working class were , I suppose, Ramsay McDonald and Kinnock, and neither of them much to write home about. What's any of that got to do with the town hall fat cat party, any more than the geek stuff? What's "real life" anyway? Your political delusions are as real to you as they are senseless to almost anyone else. The CameCleggypedes all live life in the W. Hampstead Bubble for sure, but would the quality of views on world affairs be superior from a group of professional non-workers in a public housing project? Pace "Benefits Street", probably not.
That you are not kidding it will be one or the other posh boys that have never lived in real life, the pick seems to be Eton, Cambridge and Oxford, Millband Father was a Capitalist Communist was never a Maxist.
The best and most workable ideas come from the ordinary people on the streets, because what suits them suits the majority and never the few.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]Whoever gets voted in it will be a posh Oxbridge elite, dad is a famous Marxist academic, married to hot shot lawyer type. Nearest we ever made to working class were , I suppose, Ramsay McDonald and Kinnock, and neither of them much to write home about. What's any of that got to do with the town hall fat cat party, any more than the geek stuff? What's "real life" anyway? Your political delusions are as real to you as they are senseless to almost anyone else. The CameCleggypedes all live life in the W. Hampstead Bubble for sure, but would the quality of views on world affairs be superior from a group of professional non-workers in a public housing project? Pace "Benefits Street", probably not.[/p][/quote]That you are not kidding it will be one or the other posh boys that have never lived in real life, the pick seems to be Eton, Cambridge and Oxford, Millband Father was a Capitalist Communist was never a Maxist. The best and most workable ideas come from the ordinary people on the streets, because what suits them suits the majority and never the few. southy
  • Score: -1

4:38pm Tue 5 Aug 14

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking?

All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in.

Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one.

Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it.

I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol.

Lots of work in that sector is there..?
You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking? All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in. Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one. Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it. I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol. Lots of work in that sector is there..?[/p][/quote]You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference. southy
  • Score: -2

5:25pm Tue 5 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

The average wage of a full time worker in the UK is £26,500

David Cameron earns five times that

These other blokes earn something like seven or eight times that

And that is why Politicians are so out of touch with the rest of us!
The average wage of a full time worker in the UK is £26,500 David Cameron earns five times that These other blokes earn something like seven or eight times that And that is why Politicians are so out of touch with the rest of us! 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

5:38pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

"Father was a Capitalist Communist was never a Maxist". I heard he was quite fond of old Singalongamax
. Southy-"wrong kind of Communism". Wonderfully 1930's but relevance today?
"The best and most workable ideas come from the ordinary people on the streets, because what suits them suits the majority and never the few."
May very well be true-depends whether you class Hayek, Friedman and Popper as "people in the street"
"Father was a Capitalist Communist was never a Maxist". I heard he was quite fond of old Singalongamax . Southy-"wrong kind of Communism". Wonderfully 1930's but relevance today? "The best and most workable ideas come from the ordinary people on the streets, because what suits them suits the majority and never the few." May very well be true-depends whether you class Hayek, Friedman and Popper as "people in the street" Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

6:06pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Tesze1 says...

This news come hot on the heels of HCC voting to axe a vital lifeline for vunerable people living in sheltered accomodation.
From September they will no longer have the pull cord and emergency buttons they wear round the neck because to save £500K a year they will be switched off.
Why am I surprised that a tory council would do something so crass in order to line thier own pockets!
This news come hot on the heels of HCC voting to axe a vital lifeline for vunerable people living in sheltered accomodation. From September they will no longer have the pull cord and emergency buttons they wear round the neck because to save £500K a year they will be switched off. Why am I surprised that a tory council would do something so crass in order to line thier own pockets! Tesze1
  • Score: 1

11:00pm Tue 5 Aug 14

forest hump says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking?

All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in.

Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one.

Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it.

I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol.

Lots of work in that sector is there..?
You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference.
Yet again exposed as a fool. You are either very brave or very stupid: could be both. Why do you continually challenge people who clearly have professional knowledge? You do yourself no favours!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking? All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in. Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one. Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it. I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol. Lots of work in that sector is there..?[/p][/quote]You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference.[/p][/quote]Yet again exposed as a fool. You are either very brave or very stupid: could be both. Why do you continually challenge people who clearly have professional knowledge? You do yourself no favours! forest hump
  • Score: 2

12:33am Wed 6 Aug 14

southy says...

Dai Rear wrote:
"Father was a Capitalist Communist was never a Maxist". I heard he was quite fond of old Singalongamax
. Southy-"wrong kind of Communism". Wonderfully 1930's but relevance today?
"The best and most workable ideas come from the ordinary people on the streets, because what suits them suits the majority and never the few."
May very well be true-depends whether you class Hayek, Friedman and Popper as "people in the street"
Its all ways been the case the best are those on the streets less suffering and very unlikely to go to war. The thing is people from the streets have a better under standing the majority
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "Father was a Capitalist Communist was never a Maxist". I heard he was quite fond of old Singalongamax . Southy-"wrong kind of Communism". Wonderfully 1930's but relevance today? "The best and most workable ideas come from the ordinary people on the streets, because what suits them suits the majority and never the few." May very well be true-depends whether you class Hayek, Friedman and Popper as "people in the street"[/p][/quote]Its all ways been the case the best are those on the streets less suffering and very unlikely to go to war. The thing is people from the streets have a better under standing the majority southy
  • Score: -2

12:47am Wed 6 Aug 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking?

All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in.

Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one.

Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it.

I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol.

Lots of work in that sector is there..?
You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference.
Yet again exposed as a fool. You are either very brave or very stupid: could be both. Why do you continually challenge people who clearly have professional knowledge? You do yourself no favours!
Take a look at what he said, Quote "Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware"
Never happens not to me nor any one else I know that go's up onto the hiden web sites, its safer there than it is on .com or .co.** even .net is safer than the other two, He never been up on those hiden sites he never even knew about them and yet he comes out with BS like spyware and malware, the only thing you need to watch out for on hiden sites is hackers if they think your connected to a corporation they will have a go at hacking you, but soon drop you when they relise your not.
Or it might be that he is trying to deter people from going up there, because of what go's on up there away from general public eyes.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking? All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in. Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one. Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it. I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol. Lots of work in that sector is there..?[/p][/quote]You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference.[/p][/quote]Yet again exposed as a fool. You are either very brave or very stupid: could be both. Why do you continually challenge people who clearly have professional knowledge? You do yourself no favours![/p][/quote]Take a look at what he said, Quote "Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware" Never happens not to me nor any one else I know that go's up onto the hiden web sites, its safer there than it is on .com or .co.** even .net is safer than the other two, He never been up on those hiden sites he never even knew about them and yet he comes out with BS like spyware and malware, the only thing you need to watch out for on hiden sites is hackers if they think your connected to a corporation they will have a go at hacking you, but soon drop you when they relise your not. Or it might be that he is trying to deter people from going up there, because of what go's on up there away from general public eyes. southy
  • Score: -3

9:09am Wed 6 Aug 14

forest hump says...

southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.
Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life
Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking?

All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in.

Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one.

Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it.

I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol.

Lots of work in that sector is there..?
You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference.
Yet again exposed as a fool. You are either very brave or very stupid: could be both. Why do you continually challenge people who clearly have professional knowledge? You do yourself no favours!
Take a look at what he said, Quote "Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware"
Never happens not to me nor any one else I know that go's up onto the hiden web sites, its safer there than it is on .com or .co.** even .net is safer than the other two, He never been up on those hiden sites he never even knew about them and yet he comes out with BS like spyware and malware, the only thing you need to watch out for on hiden sites is hackers if they think your connected to a corporation they will have a go at hacking you, but soon drop you when they relise your not.
Or it might be that he is trying to deter people from going up there, because of what go's on up there away from general public eyes.
With every post you just confirm the majorities' thoughts.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: What on earth has all this computer nerd stuff got to do with local council fat cats? I can't imagine that anyone but the 3 of you could have the remotest interest in all this carp, so go have your "debate" somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Shoong acts just like the Eton School boys that run this country all that money spent on there education and learned nothing of real life[/p][/quote]Yes, motivating myself, educating myself and of course the fruitless pursuit of trying to improve my circumstances so I didn't end up living in Winnall, Winchester where I was raised (I don't even know where Eton is), going through University which I assure you was not easy, the sheer audacity of trying to provide for my family and my elderly mother while desperately trying to build a private sector pension. What was I thinking? All that and a 2 year stint in the Army squeezed in. Indeed, I have wasted my life, thanks for pointing out to me oh wise one. Calling me an 'Eton boy' is just a childish and nasty remark which covers up that it would appear you have chosen to deliberately under achieve in life and despise anyone who has more than you have, just because they worked for it. I could have got into Rigging I suppose, doesn't seem like a bad career choice , lol. Lots of work in that sector is there..?[/p][/quote]You would never have what it takes to be a Rigger that I can asure you, Reread what I said I did not call you an Eton boy Now did I, I said you act like the Eton School boys that run this country, Bit of a difference or can't you tell the difference.[/p][/quote]Yet again exposed as a fool. You are either very brave or very stupid: could be both. Why do you continually challenge people who clearly have professional knowledge? You do yourself no favours![/p][/quote]Take a look at what he said, Quote "Your computer is probably infested with spyware and malware" Never happens not to me nor any one else I know that go's up onto the hiden web sites, its safer there than it is on .com or .co.** even .net is safer than the other two, He never been up on those hiden sites he never even knew about them and yet he comes out with BS like spyware and malware, the only thing you need to watch out for on hiden sites is hackers if they think your connected to a corporation they will have a go at hacking you, but soon drop you when they relise your not. Or it might be that he is trying to deter people from going up there, because of what go's on up there away from general public eyes.[/p][/quote]With every post you just confirm the majorities' thoughts. forest hump
  • Score: 1

9:47am Wed 6 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

Southy's seal of approval for Hayek , Friedman and Popper. Never thought I' d see that day....
Southy's seal of approval for Hayek , Friedman and Popper. Never thought I' d see that day.... Dai Rear
  • Score: 1

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