Dorchester Arms in Southampton to close after police complain about trouble at the pub

Pub to close after 'dossier of trouble'

Pub to close after 'dossier of trouble'

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

A WELL-KNOWN pub will be shut down after a damning catalogue of trouble.

Licensing chiefs in Southampton yesterday banned pub boss Raymond Bird from running the Dorchester Arms and revoked the premises licence meaning it will be closed in 21 days unless an appeal is lodged.

As exclusively reported by the Daily Echo last week, fears about how the Onslow Road pub was being run were first raised last year when a 20-person brawl broke out, with staff failing to calm tensions.

Police claimed the incident could have been prevented but Mr Bird failed to step up, instead allowing one of the offenders to leave who then had to be traced and arrested by police.

Other issues included residents complaining about music and door staff not having the correct licences at the Enterprise Inns owned pub.

Hampshire police also claimed that Mr Bird had lied to officers when they tried to contact a member of his staff.

Just last week, Mr Bird contacted the Daily Echo following the publication of the police report into problems at his bar, to reveal he was quitting.

But yesterday as he appeared before city council licensing bosses he denied ever making the comments as he made a last ditch bid to stay as landlord.

The committee heard from PC Jackie Cherry, representing Hampshire police, who said that Mr Bird was “not responsible” or “trustworthy” and his behaviour “undermined” licensing objectives.

She told the hearing: “As recently as May this year two large groups of Asian males were squaring off outside the pub and although on this occasion it did not come to anything, it proves that there’s still tension in the area.”

It was revealed at the meeting that there had been an ongoing dispute between Mr Bird and Enterprise Inns, with the landlord claiming he was receiving inadequate support from the owners – a claim they denied.

Mr Bird told the hearing that he had gone “above and beyond” in his work at the pub and was now concerned about fellow staff.

But he acknowledged errors in the way he had run the establishment, and added: “There have been mistakes made and they are rookie mistakes.”

Councillor Matt Tucker, sub-committee chairman, said: “The panel is concerned that there have been numerous failures. Mr Bird has been removed as licence holder and also the panel has removed the premises licence.”

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7:41am Fri 8 Aug 14

lastminmoran says...

WHAT ABOUT A MILK BAR? (anyone remember them?)or how about a boxing club?
WHAT ABOUT A MILK BAR? (anyone remember them?)or how about a boxing club? lastminmoran
  • Score: 1

8:58am Fri 8 Aug 14

eurogordi says...

Being closed down after the police complained?!!!!! Surely we pay our taxes for the police to keep law and order, not for them to go around closing down various premises when it gets a little too much like hard work for them!
Being closed down after the police complained?!!!!! Surely we pay our taxes for the police to keep law and order, not for them to go around closing down various premises when it gets a little too much like hard work for them! eurogordi
  • Score: 32

11:31am Fri 8 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

Mr Bird sounds well qualified for a highly paid public sector job.
Mr Bird sounds well qualified for a highly paid public sector job. Dai Rear
  • Score: 9

11:59am Fri 8 Aug 14

HillsidePaul says...

The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is.

These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.
The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is. These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen. HillsidePaul
  • Score: 1

12:07pm Fri 8 Aug 14

SAB208 says...

At least I always knew where my (underage) son was drinking on a Friday night!!!
At least I always knew where my (underage) son was drinking on a Friday night!!! SAB208
  • Score: 6

12:35pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

HillsidePaul wrote:
The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is.

These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.
It is permissible to quote evidence given in a court or tribunal. Please advise the manner in which you would have wished PC Cherry's evidence to have been censored. Would you prefer total state censorship , in the manner of the Soviet Union or today's China? Should you perhaps re-locate to your preferred censoring state?
[quote][p][bold]HillsidePaul[/bold] wrote: The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is. These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.[/p][/quote]It is permissible to quote evidence given in a court or tribunal. Please advise the manner in which you would have wished PC Cherry's evidence to have been censored. Would you prefer total state censorship , in the manner of the Soviet Union or today's China? Should you perhaps re-locate to your preferred censoring state? Dai Rear
  • Score: 5

1:02pm Fri 8 Aug 14

shesaint says...

HillsidePaul wrote:
The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is.

These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.
I think YOU need to report the post that offends you instead of waiting for someone else to do it.
[quote][p][bold]HillsidePaul[/bold] wrote: The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is. These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.[/p][/quote]I think YOU need to report the post that offends you instead of waiting for someone else to do it. shesaint
  • Score: 4

1:04pm Fri 8 Aug 14

jaydejay says...

Good riddance ! Awful establishment full of awful characters! I do not understand why people complain when toilets like this one are closed down?
Good riddance ! Awful establishment full of awful characters! I do not understand why people complain when toilets like this one are closed down? jaydejay
  • Score: 6

1:05pm Fri 8 Aug 14

The_Fuzz22 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
HillsidePaul wrote:
The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is.

These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.
It is permissible to quote evidence given in a court or tribunal. Please advise the manner in which you would have wished PC Cherry's evidence to have been censored. Would you prefer total state censorship , in the manner of the Soviet Union or today's China? Should you perhaps re-locate to your preferred censoring state?
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Educate yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HillsidePaul[/bold] wrote: The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is. These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.[/p][/quote]It is permissible to quote evidence given in a court or tribunal. Please advise the manner in which you would have wished PC Cherry's evidence to have been censored. Would you prefer total state censorship , in the manner of the Soviet Union or today's China? Should you perhaps re-locate to your preferred censoring state?[/p][/quote]https://yourlogicalf allacyis.com/strawma n Educate yourself. The_Fuzz22
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

crazylady80 says...

It's a rough pub...always has been.....but has no more or less trouble than the rest of the pubs and bars in the area.
It's a shame it's going. Not many old fashioned pubs left. Soon we will all have to drink in the generic pubs in the town centre which all look the same. And they won't re staff it. It'll become a mosque or a macdonalds or maybe even a tesco express!!!!!
It's a rough pub...always has been.....but has no more or less trouble than the rest of the pubs and bars in the area. It's a shame it's going. Not many old fashioned pubs left. Soon we will all have to drink in the generic pubs in the town centre which all look the same. And they won't re staff it. It'll become a mosque or a macdonalds or maybe even a tesco express!!!!! crazylady80
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Popcorn Sutton says...

More of the community decimated once again.

Mind you I have never been in such a weird pub with such a strange bunch locals & staff.

Please though, no more Tesco's, no more Mcdonalds, no Mosques & no untimely firs leading to awful looking blocks of flats for third aged people.

Too much to ask I guess (-_-)
More of the community decimated once again. Mind you I have never been in such a weird pub with such a strange bunch locals & staff. Please though, no more Tesco's, no more Mcdonalds, no Mosques & no untimely firs leading to awful looking blocks of flats for third aged people. Too much to ask I guess (-_-) Popcorn Sutton
  • Score: -3

2:58pm Fri 8 Aug 14

evilhippy says...

Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus.

Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off.

And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets.

Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.
Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus. Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off. And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets. Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa. evilhippy
  • Score: 24

3:48pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Popcorn Sutton says...

evilhippy wrote:
Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus.

Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off.

And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets.

Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.
What a load of Twoddle, Our city/country was never this bad twenty/twenty five years ago & indeed it is mainly greed that has bought them all here.
I it is only human nature that if some idiot political type says' 'here's some money, come & live here' then you are gonna do it if you have nothing, but that said it has all been about sticking them all in Bevois Valley/St Marys (where I live) so they don't upset the middle classes who already have all the money & thus lining the capitalist (tory & Labour) pockets.
The area round here is full of empty 'Tyskie' cans, dog shiit, johnnies, old washing machines, mattresses & other assorted dross.
If you don't like the fact then that's you tough tiitties.
The mess is ultimately made by the government & appalling local councils letting it happen.
[quote][p][bold]evilhippy[/bold] wrote: Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus. Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off. And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets. Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.[/p][/quote]What a load of Twoddle, Our city/country was never this bad twenty/twenty five years ago & indeed it is mainly greed that has bought them all here. I it is only human nature that if some idiot political type says' 'here's some money, come & live here' then you are gonna do it if you have nothing, but that said it has all been about sticking them all in Bevois Valley/St Marys (where I live) so they don't upset the middle classes who already have all the money & thus lining the capitalist (tory & Labour) pockets. The area round here is full of empty 'Tyskie' cans, dog shiit, johnnies, old washing machines, mattresses & other assorted dross. If you don't like the fact then that's you tough tiitties. The mess is ultimately made by the government & appalling local councils letting it happen. Popcorn Sutton
  • Score: -6

3:51pm Fri 8 Aug 14

jonnyx says...

Sensible post shock on echo comments ^
Sensible post shock on echo comments ^ jonnyx
  • Score: 2

3:53pm Fri 8 Aug 14

jonnyx says...

Evil Hippy's I meant. Not popcorn Sutton's!!
Evil Hippy's I meant. Not popcorn Sutton's!! jonnyx
  • Score: 3

4:06pm Fri 8 Aug 14

The_Fuzz22 says...

Popcorn Sutton wrote:
evilhippy wrote:
Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus.

Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off.

And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets.

Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.
What a load of Twoddle, Our city/country was never this bad twenty/twenty five years ago & indeed it is mainly greed that has bought them all here.
I it is only human nature that if some idiot political type says' 'here's some money, come & live here' then you are gonna do it if you have nothing, but that said it has all been about sticking them all in Bevois Valley/St Marys (where I live) so they don't upset the middle classes who already have all the money & thus lining the capitalist (tory & Labour) pockets.
The area round here is full of empty 'Tyskie' cans, dog shiit, johnnies, old washing machines, mattresses & other assorted dross.
If you don't like the fact then that's you tough tiitties.
The mess is ultimately made by the government & appalling local councils letting it happen.
How ignorant.
[quote][p][bold]Popcorn Sutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]evilhippy[/bold] wrote: Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus. Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off. And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets. Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.[/p][/quote]What a load of Twoddle, Our city/country was never this bad twenty/twenty five years ago & indeed it is mainly greed that has bought them all here. I it is only human nature that if some idiot political type says' 'here's some money, come & live here' then you are gonna do it if you have nothing, but that said it has all been about sticking them all in Bevois Valley/St Marys (where I live) so they don't upset the middle classes who already have all the money & thus lining the capitalist (tory & Labour) pockets. The area round here is full of empty 'Tyskie' cans, dog shiit, johnnies, old washing machines, mattresses & other assorted dross. If you don't like the fact then that's you tough tiitties. The mess is ultimately made by the government & appalling local councils letting it happen.[/p][/quote]How ignorant. The_Fuzz22
  • Score: 2

4:11pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

The_Fuzz22 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
HillsidePaul wrote:
The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is.

These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.
It is permissible to quote evidence given in a court or tribunal. Please advise the manner in which you would have wished PC Cherry's evidence to have been censored. Would you prefer total state censorship , in the manner of the Soviet Union or today's China? Should you perhaps re-locate to your preferred censoring state?
https://yourlogicalf

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n

Educate yourself.
Leftist abuse #3
Bart and Homer would no doubt agree that you , having no point to make, can always go to puerile abuse. But as I've said before I'm sure your lot get more fun gobbing off at "demos", so why not stick to the tried and trusted?
[quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HillsidePaul[/bold] wrote: The Echo allows every article, to be turned into an "it's all the fault of-Asians,Polish, Romanians, Muslims" (add as appropriate) story, no matter what the issue is. These comments are almost always deliberately inflammatory and designed to increase racial hatred and intolerance. Yet the Echo seem happy to let this happen.[/p][/quote]It is permissible to quote evidence given in a court or tribunal. Please advise the manner in which you would have wished PC Cherry's evidence to have been censored. Would you prefer total state censorship , in the manner of the Soviet Union or today's China? Should you perhaps re-locate to your preferred censoring state?[/p][/quote]https://yourlogicalf allacyis.com/strawma n Educate yourself.[/p][/quote]Leftist abuse #3 Bart and Homer would no doubt agree that you , having no point to make, can always go to puerile abuse. But as I've said before I'm sure your lot get more fun gobbing off at "demos", so why not stick to the tried and trusted? Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

4:20pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

evilhippy wrote:
Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus.

Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off.

And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets.

Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.
Do forget your "rac-ism", stupid lefty doodle word. Most of the E Europeans are of the same "rac" as us. Are they and those from the sub-continent and Africa over-represented in the criminal courts? Yes, they are. Does it matter? To me? No. But I live in an area where the only incomers are professionals. It matters to those who live in areas where houses are in the 1% Stamp Duty Land Tax bracket. Their concerns are just as important as anyone else's and for you leftist "intellectuals" to keep on spewing out your stupid "boo words" helps no one. How did they make such a Horlicks of recruitment in the NHS? Don't ask me. I've never voted socialist in the 45 years I've had the franchise, and the NHS is Labour's Baby.
[quote][p][bold]evilhippy[/bold] wrote: Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus. Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off. And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets. Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.[/p][/quote]Do forget your "rac-ism", stupid lefty doodle word. Most of the E Europeans are of the same "rac" as us. Are they and those from the sub-continent and Africa over-represented in the criminal courts? Yes, they are. Does it matter? To me? No. But I live in an area where the only incomers are professionals. It matters to those who live in areas where houses are in the 1% Stamp Duty Land Tax bracket. Their concerns are just as important as anyone else's and for you leftist "intellectuals" to keep on spewing out your stupid "boo words" helps no one. How did they make such a Horlicks of recruitment in the NHS? Don't ask me. I've never voted socialist in the 45 years I've had the franchise, and the NHS is Labour's Baby. Dai Rear
  • Score: -3

4:33pm Fri 8 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

Don't worry people! Your new 'flagship' Tesco Express is on it's way!
Don't worry people! Your new 'flagship' Tesco Express is on it's way! 03alpe01
  • Score: 5

5:39pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Popcorn Sutton says...

The_Fuzz22 wrote:
Popcorn Sutton wrote:
evilhippy wrote:
Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus.

Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off.

And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets.

Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.
What a load of Twoddle, Our city/country was never this bad twenty/twenty five years ago & indeed it is mainly greed that has bought them all here.
I it is only human nature that if some idiot political type says' 'here's some money, come & live here' then you are gonna do it if you have nothing, but that said it has all been about sticking them all in Bevois Valley/St Marys (where I live) so they don't upset the middle classes who already have all the money & thus lining the capitalist (tory & Labour) pockets.
The area round here is full of empty 'Tyskie' cans, dog shiit, johnnies, old washing machines, mattresses & other assorted dross.
If you don't like the fact then that's you tough tiitties.
The mess is ultimately made by the government & appalling local councils letting it happen.
How ignorant.
You see, I don't go along with your point of view then I am ignorant.
Sadly you & your kind are a part of the problem that is endemic throughout the UK now.
[quote][p][bold]The_Fuzz22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Popcorn Sutton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]evilhippy[/bold] wrote: Dive pub closes down: shocking. Jesus. Love the immigrant/foreigner comments - you're all from immigrant families too, we all are, we live on a sodding island! And just think for a second, if you can, about what some of these `foreigners` do; they come over here and start businesses, they employ people, they buy products and services from established british businesses, who trickly money down to you - so these foreigners can help feed your kids! And they keep money in circulation which means we all get a bit better off. And just rememebr that even if a couple of polish nippers rob someone, do you really think other people in this city WEREN'T mugged by british people on that same day? There are many muggings every day in this city, we only hear about ones that are reported and when a sensationalist story can be made about it, foreigners are always easy targets. Got an relatives in hospital at the moment? You'll be glad of all the foreign nurses and doctors then, who are often better qualified and experienced than the british ones. Think before you get racist, and try also to remember that if you love your family, you love foreigners, and if you go back far enough we all originated in Africa.[/p][/quote]What a load of Twoddle, Our city/country was never this bad twenty/twenty five years ago & indeed it is mainly greed that has bought them all here. I it is only human nature that if some idiot political type says' 'here's some money, come & live here' then you are gonna do it if you have nothing, but that said it has all been about sticking them all in Bevois Valley/St Marys (where I live) so they don't upset the middle classes who already have all the money & thus lining the capitalist (tory & Labour) pockets. The area round here is full of empty 'Tyskie' cans, dog shiit, johnnies, old washing machines, mattresses & other assorted dross. If you don't like the fact then that's you tough tiitties. The mess is ultimately made by the government & appalling local councils letting it happen.[/p][/quote]How ignorant.[/p][/quote]You see, I don't go along with your point of view then I am ignorant. Sadly you & your kind are a part of the problem that is endemic throughout the UK now. Popcorn Sutton
  • Score: -7

5:51pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

That pub as well as the saints pub is a dive should have been shut years ago
That pub as well as the saints pub is a dive should have been shut years ago Kirsty666
  • Score: 7

9:21pm Fri 8 Aug 14

bucktoom says...

Why do people care so much about what is put in its place? This is a market driven society so if a bloody Tesco thinks it can succeed then so be it. If you don't want to see your 'local businesses' fold, then use them!
As for mosques......well if they can afford it then so what? I know of a Church that is so over subscribed that they broadcast their services to a screen at an old cinema as an over fill.
Why do people care so much about what is put in its place? This is a market driven society so if a bloody Tesco thinks it can succeed then so be it. If you don't want to see your 'local businesses' fold, then use them! As for mosques......well if they can afford it then so what? I know of a Church that is so over subscribed that they broadcast their services to a screen at an old cinema as an over fill. bucktoom
  • Score: 2

12:23am Sat 9 Aug 14

Dave Of The South says...

Could we have a little Waitrose instead of a Tesco Express please?
Could we have a little Waitrose instead of a Tesco Express please? Dave Of The South
  • Score: 5

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