Coxford Road potholes WILL be fixed after Southampton City Council U-turn

Delighted residents and councillors celebrate the city council's U-turn over potholes

Delighted residents and councillors celebrate the city council's U-turn over potholes

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CITY council chiefs have done a U-turn and vowed to repair potholes they said weren’t deep enough to need fixing.

Campaigners are today celebrating the news they could soon be seeing the back of the hazards that have been blighting their Southampton community.

Engineers will now get to work to fix the potholes in Lordswood after the Daily Echo highlighted the problem.

As reported on Saturday, there are currently more than 50 of the potholes in two clusters on a quarter-of-a-mile stretch of Coxford Road.

Residents living nearby have been calling for them to be filled in for several years, saying they pose a safety risk to drivers and are a noise nuisance for residents living nearby.

Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinator Judy Short had gathered a petition with 60 signatures from residents calling for action.

But one resident said he was told by a city council officer that the potholes would not be fixed as they were 30mm deep – 10mm too shallow.

Daily Echo:

Some of the potholes in Coxford Road, Southampton

Ward councillors Keith Morrell and Don Thomas, from the Councillors Against Cuts group, arranged a meeting with council officers at the site, and they were told one of the clusters would be fixed, but that the other potholes were not deep enough.

Later they were contacted by senior council officer, who told them that both clusters will now be repaired.

Cllr Thomas said: “It’s to be celebrated that common sense has prevailed, as the first response was ‘no, they’re not deep enough’.

“This is a bus route and at long last the residents might have a bit more peace and quiet because the buses make a racket going over the potholes.”

The news has been welcomed by the residents who campaigned for the issue to be tackled.

Coxford Road resident Alan Perrin, 82, said: “It’s absolutely brilliant – we’ve got two brilliant councillors.”

Mrs Short said: “I’m cautiously optimistic. In reality I think the whole stretch needs to be resurfaced but I don’t think they can do that so patching will have to do for now.”

Council environment and transport chief Jacqui Rayment said: “All potholes nationally as well as in Southampton are judged on certain criteria and a pothole either meets that criteria or it doesn’t.

“We monitor potholes for safety reasons, including those that might not meet the criteria but could have an impact on safety, and we have put aside more money to fix potholes that don’t necessarily meet the criteria.

“This Labour administration has put an extra £1.3million into roads this year because we recognise that potholes are a growing problem.”

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8:09am Mon 11 Aug 14

paraboy says...

this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday
this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday paraboy
  • Score: 3

8:32am Mon 11 Aug 14

Tenderhearts wife says...

They need to take a good look at Northam road and Millbrook road whilst they are at it. vehicles randomly swerving to avoid holes will cause an accident sooner or later.
They need to take a good look at Northam road and Millbrook road whilst they are at it. vehicles randomly swerving to avoid holes will cause an accident sooner or later. Tenderhearts wife
  • Score: 6

9:47am Mon 11 Aug 14

Babylon51 says...

This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months. Babylon51
  • Score: 2

9:58am Mon 11 Aug 14

southy says...

Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
[quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more. southy
  • Score: -2

10:28am Mon 11 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you. Torchie1
  • Score: 4

11:03am Mon 11 Aug 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.
If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years southy
  • Score: 5

11:10am Mon 11 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.
If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years
In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then? Torchie1
  • Score: -1

11:10am Mon 11 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.
If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years
In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then? Torchie1
  • Score: 2

11:24am Mon 11 Aug 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.
If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years
In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?
Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council.
I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs.
Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer.
And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?[/p][/quote]Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council. I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs. Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer. And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say southy
  • Score: -2

11:24am Mon 11 Aug 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

This proves;

1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather.

2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn.

3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' .
(In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council)

4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote.

5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors"

6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her.

Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration.
This proves; 1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather. 2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn. 3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' . (In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council) 4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote. 5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors" 6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her. Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council.
And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council. Kirsty666
  • Score: 3

2:06pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
This proves;

1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather.

2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn.

3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' .
(In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council)

4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote.

5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors"

6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her.

Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration.
Have you copied and pasted what you wrote the other day??
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: This proves; 1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather. 2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn. 3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' . (In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council) 4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote. 5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors" 6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her. Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration.[/p][/quote]Have you copied and pasted what you wrote the other day?? Kirsty666
  • Score: 0

2:11pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council.
And just to add to my quote free bus passes too why don't they pay 50p like they did years ago they're still getting a bargain on the buses as the minimum for a single from the south hants is £1 blue star and £1.50 on first then the council would have more money to put towards funds that need it rather than paying out so people can get free travel
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council.[/p][/quote]And just to add to my quote free bus passes too why don't they pay 50p like they did years ago they're still getting a bargain on the buses as the minimum for a single from the south hants is £1 blue star and £1.50 on first then the council would have more money to put towards funds that need it rather than paying out so people can get free travel Kirsty666
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.
If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years
In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?
Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council.
I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs.
Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer.
And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say
I hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (023 8083 3000) and they can't back up your story either. Call me when you need a bigger spade because that hole's getting quite deep now.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?[/p][/quote]Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council. I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs. Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer. And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say[/p][/quote]I hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (023 8083 3000) and they can't back up your story either. Call me when you need a bigger spade because that hole's getting quite deep now. Torchie1
  • Score: 3

3:01pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.
Torchie, As I am not engineer but only a lay man I can only inform you what a senior County Council officer informed me way back in 1980s. Which may not match with what somebody who according to you was on Hampshire County Council in 1970.

I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders.

Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace.

So based on that knowledge I believe what South is saying is correct.

Although personally as road user like everybody else, I am not interested in engineering side of road building or maintaining procedures, (leave that to you and Peter!) only want to that roads are safe to drive on, after all that is part of what we pay taxes for, and elect councillors to get the jobs done where and when required.

On that basis like many others I also think that under Cllr. Rayment the problem has run out of control. Perhaps Leader of the Council should thinking of showing her the door and replacing with somebody better.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]Torchie, As I am not engineer but only a lay man I can only inform you what a senior County Council officer informed me way back in 1980s. Which may not match with what somebody who according to you was on Hampshire County Council in 1970. I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders. Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. So based on that knowledge I believe what South is saying is correct. Although personally as road user like everybody else, I am not interested in engineering side of road building or maintaining procedures, (leave that to you and Peter!) only want to that roads are safe to drive on, after all that is part of what we pay taxes for, and elect councillors to get the jobs done where and when required. On that basis like many others I also think that under Cllr. Rayment the problem has run out of control. Perhaps Leader of the Council should thinking of showing her the door and replacing with somebody better. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
This proves;

1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather.

2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn.

3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' .
(In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council)

4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote.

5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors"

6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her.

Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration.
Have you copied and pasted what you wrote the other day??
No
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: This proves; 1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather. 2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn. 3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' . (In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council) 4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote. 5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors" 6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her. Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration.[/p][/quote]Have you copied and pasted what you wrote the other day??[/p][/quote]No Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Mon 11 Aug 14

footballcrazy says...

paraboy wrote:
this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday
yes we on lower brownhill have had a 20 mile an hour limit imposed, and we believe it is more to slow down traffic less likely to incurr insurance claimd due to large potholes! yet the oasis school on romsey road has a 40 mile an hour limit outside school gates!
[quote][p][bold]paraboy[/bold] wrote: this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday[/p][/quote]yes we on lower brownhill have had a 20 mile an hour limit imposed, and we believe it is more to slow down traffic less likely to incurr insurance claimd due to large potholes! yet the oasis school on romsey road has a 40 mile an hour limit outside school gates! footballcrazy
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Mon 11 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
This proves;

1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather.

2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn.

3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' .
(In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council)

4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote.

5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors"

6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her.

Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration.
NuLabour!
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: This proves; 1: That Southampton Council was making lame excuses like shortage of money and depth of pot holes, for failing to repair dangerous part of Coxford Rd. Which can be like death traps for cyclists, especially at night and during bad weather. 2: That when people unite and are fully supported by their local councillors in demanding the service from Council for which they pay taxes, then the arrogant people like Cllr. Jacqui Rayment who control the road repairs budgets can be forced into performing U turn. 3: Importance of local paper providing coverage to the plight of local communities, who are often the victims of arrogant unfit for the purpose councillors, the puppets in the hands of pen pushing fat cats also known as 'senior officers' . (In this case Daily Echo has done exactly what it should be doing. So congratulations to DE. Hope Editor Ian Murray will encourage reporting like this rather than depending on misleading press statements issued by highly paid spin doctors of the Council) 4: Benefit of electing councillors like Don Thomas and Keith Morrell who are loyal to local people and not the mouth pieces of a political party that has betrayed even the values on which it was based and is dishonest, because although NuLabour has become virtual de facto right wing of the Tories at election times they still contest as Labour Party for securing old Labour loyalist vote. 5: This yet again illustrates that frequent politically biased comments mainly by NuLabour members, supporters or sympathisers on this site about Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell are un called for and very wrong. As one of the resident has said "We've got two brilliant councillors" 6: The third councillor for Coxford who belongs to NuLabour has as usual failed to stand by the people who elected her. Residents who united and succeeded in forcing pen pushers under the control of Cllr. Rayment deserve admiration.[/p][/quote]NuLabour! 03alpe01
  • Score: -1

3:38pm Mon 11 Aug 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the yearsIn a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council.
I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs.
Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer.
And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I sayI hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office.
Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing

"I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders.

Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. "
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?[/p][/quote]Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council. I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs. Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer. And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say[/p][/quote]I hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office. Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing "I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders. Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. " southy
  • Score: 1

3:39pm Mon 11 Aug 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the yearsIn a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council.
I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs.
Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer.
And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I sayI hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office.
Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing

"I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders.

Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. "
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?[/p][/quote]Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council. I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs. Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer. And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say[/p][/quote]I hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office. Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing "I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders. Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. " southy
  • Score: 0

3:40pm Mon 11 Aug 14

camerajuan says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council.
Sorry what defines a festival as unnecessary?

And free cooking lessons will ultimately get people eating better as they'll shy away from microwaved processed nonsense that gets all the advertising space. Better eating = better physicality = less obesity, which Southampton has a problem with thanks to the brilliantly researched stats from PHE.

Money isn't wasted just because you think it is. Look at the bigger picture.
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council.[/p][/quote]Sorry what defines a festival as unnecessary? And free cooking lessons will ultimately get people eating better as they'll shy away from microwaved processed nonsense that gets all the advertising space. Better eating = better physicality = less obesity, which Southampton has a problem with thanks to the brilliantly researched stats from PHE. Money isn't wasted just because you think it is. Look at the bigger picture. camerajuan
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Mon 11 Aug 14

espanuel says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the yearsIn a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council.
I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs.
Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer.
And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I sayI hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office.
Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing

"I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders.

Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. "Why the hell does Thatcher come into this all the time, Thatcher this Thatcher that. How many governments have we had since she left. Anyway she was OK. Tongue in cheek.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?[/p][/quote]Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council. I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs. Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer. And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say[/p][/quote]I hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office. Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing "I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders. Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. "[/p][/quote]Why the hell does Thatcher come into this all the time, Thatcher this Thatcher that. How many governments have we had since she left. Anyway she was OK. Tongue in cheek. espanuel
  • Score: -2

4:11pm Mon 11 Aug 14

southy says...

espanuel wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions.
Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the yearsIn a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council.
I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs.
Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer.
And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I sayI hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office.
Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing

"I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders.

Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. "Why the hell does Thatcher come into this all the time, Thatcher this Thatcher that. How many governments have we had since she left. Anyway she was OK. Tongue in cheek.If you want to know what and where the real fault is then you got trace it back, and Thatcher was the one at the time when changes was made with the first lot of cuts.
It don't matter how many governments there have been, we will carry on feeeling all the problem that was caused by Thatcher in the 80's, and no government since as over ruled the Thatcher Policy each one as carried on with the same policy, Thatcher was a dictator it was her way and no other way all her cabinet members was all yes men.
You need to realise policy made 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 etc etc years ago can still make effects well long after more so when no government is willing to over turn them, I said years ago on this web site things that Thatcher done have yet still to come into effect, and things will only get worse till some one say enough is enough and start to over rule Thatcher policy.
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]If only there was a single reference to your claims or even someone on the Council that would agree with what you say about the frequency of road resurfacing. If you can back up your claim with a credible reference, I'd like to see it but I've mentioned it to people who were on Hampshire County Council in the 1970s and they can't support you.[/p][/quote]If you live here and not in the EU you would know, Councils had contracts with Tar distillerys to supply the council with Tar, Try asking the right people not the wrong one's, I can remember the last time they resurfface Kendle ave in the 1970's. it was due to be done when Thatcher made the Cuts, And those that was in the Council in the 70's have long retired and colletting there pensions. Tarmac Road only have a 8 years life expectancy, after that its become to thin though traffic and brittle the changing temptures though winter and summer over the years[/p][/quote]In a nutshell there's the usual waffle with nothing concrete to back up your claims then?[/p][/quote]Whats up Torchie you did not go much on me shotting holes into friends Hampshire Council. I would say go and ask Totton Tar Stillery's they had the Southampton Contract, but they went under when the Cuts happen because the lost of Council contracs. Any one that knows about tar tarmac roads will tell you the same, they have a short life expectancy, Coal tar is better than crude oil tar it last longer. And you have nothing concrete to prove me wrong because it is right what in I say[/p][/quote]I hope my ' friends Hampshire Council' didn't mind 'shotting holes into' and I'm sorry that the 'Totton Tar Stillery' went under but I have just spoken to the Highways Department at Southampton City Council (Off coause they can't, the people who was there back in the 70's and 80's are not longer there, they can only tell you about what as happen since they taking over office. Read Paramjit post this is part of it, when he was a Hampshire County Councillor many years ago. And its first hand information from a ex-councillor of lasts days of road resurfacing "I was fist elected on HCC 1981, those days cuts in roads maintainance was starting to become hot topics. Because central government ministers held the view that too much money is wasted on resurfacing the roads when minor faults can be patched over cheaply. So Conservatives in power at HCC used to parot the voice of their national masters/leaders. Unable to do what some officers thought was the right thing because of the policies pushed by the party in power (admittedly through proper legal procedures of County Council) I as Secretary of Labour Group was briefed by one of those officers (also within the rules of HCC) on other side of the argument. He gave me photo copy of an article by some highly qualified engineer making a very convincing case that government policy of filling cracks and holes rather than complete resurfacing the roads will lead to long term major problems. Why? Because underneath the surface, which we don't see, the material also wears out, so if not renewed at certain intervals it will lead to major damage, so be even more expensive to replace. "[/p][/quote]Why the hell does Thatcher come into this all the time, Thatcher this Thatcher that. How many governments have we had since she left. Anyway she was OK. Tongue in cheek.[/p][/quote]If you want to know what and where the real fault is then you got trace it back, and Thatcher was the one at the time when changes was made with the first lot of cuts. It don't matter how many governments there have been, we will carry on feeeling all the problem that was caused by Thatcher in the 80's, and no government since as over ruled the Thatcher Policy each one as carried on with the same policy, Thatcher was a dictator it was her way and no other way all her cabinet members was all yes men. You need to realise policy made 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 etc etc years ago can still make effects well long after more so when no government is willing to over turn them, I said years ago on this web site things that Thatcher done have yet still to come into effect, and things will only get worse till some one say enough is enough and start to over rule Thatcher policy. southy
  • Score: 1

5:10pm Mon 11 Aug 14

munchbunch says...

To save costs I'd suggest ripping up several of the excessive speed bumps on Sandpiper road and use the material to fill in some holes elsewhere! Well done to all involved in getting this result on Coxford road though.
To save costs I'd suggest ripping up several of the excessive speed bumps on Sandpiper road and use the material to fill in some holes elsewhere! Well done to all involved in getting this result on Coxford road though. munchbunch
  • Score: 4

5:17pm Mon 11 Aug 14

george h says...

Is there anything at all, in the whole of the universe, that wasn't Thatcher's fault?

Please Southy, we need to know. For our sanity.
Is there anything at all, in the whole of the universe, that wasn't Thatcher's fault? Please Southy, we need to know. For our sanity. george h
  • Score: 0

5:40pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

camerajuan wrote:
Kirsty666 wrote:
And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council.
Sorry what defines a festival as unnecessary?

And free cooking lessons will ultimately get people eating better as they'll shy away from microwaved processed nonsense that gets all the advertising space. Better eating = better physicality = less obesity, which Southampton has a problem with thanks to the brilliantly researched stats from PHE.

Money isn't wasted just because you think it is. Look at the bigger picture.
Anything you want music festival recently in the common for an example and as for the free cooking lessons that's why you can get cooking books from the library follow the instructions correctly food will be fine that's free recipes from the internet things you DONT need to pay for yet the council think oh yeah let's pay for this out of our non existent budget
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: And suddenly because it's been over the echo they're doing it maybe everyone should complain to the echo and a lot more stuff in southampton would get done rather than money being wasted on free cooking lessons or unnessicsary festivals in parks that get funded by the council.[/p][/quote]Sorry what defines a festival as unnecessary? And free cooking lessons will ultimately get people eating better as they'll shy away from microwaved processed nonsense that gets all the advertising space. Better eating = better physicality = less obesity, which Southampton has a problem with thanks to the brilliantly researched stats from PHE. Money isn't wasted just because you think it is. Look at the bigger picture.[/p][/quote]Anything you want music festival recently in the common for an example and as for the free cooking lessons that's why you can get cooking books from the library follow the instructions correctly food will be fine that's free recipes from the internet things you DONT need to pay for yet the council think oh yeah let's pay for this out of our non existent budget Kirsty666
  • Score: -1

6:56pm Mon 11 Aug 14

southy says...

george h wrote:
Is there anything at all, in the whole of the universe, that wasn't Thatcher's fault?

Please Southy, we need to know. For our sanity.
If you want to correct the errors then you go back to where it all started and that was Thatcher policy, a policy that did not work in the 1920's and 30's its not going to work now, theres been no change in policy for the last 34/5 years and every government since as impleanted Thatchers cuts
[quote][p][bold]george h[/bold] wrote: Is there anything at all, in the whole of the universe, that wasn't Thatcher's fault? Please Southy, we need to know. For our sanity.[/p][/quote]If you want to correct the errors then you go back to where it all started and that was Thatcher policy, a policy that did not work in the 1920's and 30's its not going to work now, theres been no change in policy for the last 34/5 years and every government since as impleanted Thatchers cuts southy
  • Score: -1

7:50pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Babylon51 says...

footballcrazy wrote:
paraboy wrote:
this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday
yes we on lower brownhill have had a 20 mile an hour limit imposed, and we believe it is more to slow down traffic less likely to incurr insurance claimd due to large potholes! yet the oasis school on romsey road has a 40 mile an hour limit outside school gates!
Actually it is a 30 mph limit outside the school gates. 40 mph is a furthest 3-400 yarfs further up towards Redbridge Lane
[quote][p][bold]footballcrazy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paraboy[/bold] wrote: this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday[/p][/quote]yes we on lower brownhill have had a 20 mile an hour limit imposed, and we believe it is more to slow down traffic less likely to incurr insurance claimd due to large potholes! yet the oasis school on romsey road has a 40 mile an hour limit outside school gates![/p][/quote]Actually it is a 30 mph limit outside the school gates. 40 mph is a furthest 3-400 yarfs further up towards Redbridge Lane Babylon51
  • Score: 0

7:50pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Babylon51 says...

footballcrazy wrote:
paraboy wrote:
this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday
yes we on lower brownhill have had a 20 mile an hour limit imposed, and we believe it is more to slow down traffic less likely to incurr insurance claimd due to large potholes! yet the oasis school on romsey road has a 40 mile an hour limit outside school gates!
Actually it is a 30 mph limit outside the school gates. 40 mph is a furthest 3-400 yarfs further up towards Redbridge Lane
[quote][p][bold]footballcrazy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paraboy[/bold] wrote: this is the same story all over the city but i bet if a big pot hole was outside the head of council it would get fixed like yesterday[/p][/quote]yes we on lower brownhill have had a 20 mile an hour limit imposed, and we believe it is more to slow down traffic less likely to incurr insurance claimd due to large potholes! yet the oasis school on romsey road has a 40 mile an hour limit outside school gates![/p][/quote]Actually it is a 30 mph limit outside the school gates. 40 mph is a furthest 3-400 yarfs further up towards Redbridge Lane Babylon51
  • Score: 0

12:44am Tue 12 Aug 14

george h says...

southy wrote:
george h wrote:
Is there anything at all, in the whole of the universe, that wasn't Thatcher's fault?

Please Southy, we need to know. For our sanity.
If you want to correct the errors then you go back to where it all started and that was Thatcher policy, a policy that did not work in the 1920's and 30's its not going to work now, theres been no change in policy for the last 34/5 years and every government since as impleanted Thatchers cuts
But you didn't answer the question Southy. You never do!

Instead, you divert the topic elsewhere.

Isn't that the conduct of professional politicians; and why they are so reviled?

Come on Southy, answer the question, - it isn't really so hard to do. And you'll feel better afterwards. I promise you.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george h[/bold] wrote: Is there anything at all, in the whole of the universe, that wasn't Thatcher's fault? Please Southy, we need to know. For our sanity.[/p][/quote]If you want to correct the errors then you go back to where it all started and that was Thatcher policy, a policy that did not work in the 1920's and 30's its not going to work now, theres been no change in policy for the last 34/5 years and every government since as impleanted Thatchers cuts[/p][/quote]But you didn't answer the question Southy. You never do! Instead, you divert the topic elsewhere. Isn't that the conduct of professional politicians; and why they are so reviled? Come on Southy, answer the question, - it isn't really so hard to do. And you'll feel better afterwards. I promise you. george h
  • Score: 3

9:46am Tue 12 Aug 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Babylon51 wrote:
This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.
6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year.

We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years.
Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.
Sorry, the rest of us have actually come to terms with being in the 21st century, no surprise you only look backwards rather than forwards but then that's why you make no difference whatsoever.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babylon51[/bold] wrote: This is great news but this is just another quick fix. How long before these potholes are ripped up again? maybe 6 months. If the road was resurfaced properly in the first place it would last years rather than months.[/p][/quote]6 mth sounds about right, Think I would say 6 mths to a year. We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then Roads and pathways was resuface after so many years Roads was evey 5 years, pathways 8 to 10 years. Cuts don't work they never do, you think your saving money but in the long run its going to coast you more.[/p][/quote]Sorry, the rest of us have actually come to terms with being in the 21st century, no surprise you only look backwards rather than forwards but then that's why you make no difference whatsoever. Shoong
  • Score: 1

1:37pm Tue 12 Aug 14

george h says...

Quote from Southy:
"We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then ... ..."

Looking backwards Southy is an utterly futile exercise. It may give one a warm feeling inside, however, the country you and I were born into and grew up in no longer exists. It's gone forever. The good bits and the bad bits. All gone, and it ain't coming back anytime soon. Accept it.

You might have a good hard look in the mirror too. Because aping the tactics of reviled politicians doesn't win any friends; because the political landscape has changed beyond recognition. From a relatively stable two-party carve-up to a less predictable multi-party mess, where party loyalties have largely disappeared. Pretending otherwise is futile, and no more than lying to oneself.

So Thatcher may be reviled by some, including Southy apparently. Equally, there are large numbers who revile those who opposed her politics. Accept it. Continuing that nonsense is utterly futile and counter-productive.

Then perhaps these newspaper forums might have a chance of hosting some intelligent discussions instead of the formulaic Yah-Boo style. You don't have the answers Southy. You are just part of the problem.
Quote from Southy: "We need to get back before the era of Thatchers cuts in the 80's, up till then ... ..." Looking backwards Southy is an utterly futile exercise. It may give one a warm feeling inside, however, the country you and I were born into and grew up in no longer exists. It's gone forever. The good bits and the bad bits. All gone, and it ain't coming back anytime soon. Accept it. You might have a good hard look in the mirror too. Because aping the tactics of reviled politicians doesn't win any friends; because the political landscape has changed beyond recognition. From a relatively stable two-party carve-up to a less predictable multi-party mess, where party loyalties have largely disappeared. Pretending otherwise is futile, and no more than lying to oneself. So Thatcher may be reviled by some, including Southy apparently. Equally, there are large numbers who revile those who opposed her politics. Accept it. Continuing that nonsense is utterly futile and counter-productive. Then perhaps these newspaper forums might have a chance of hosting some intelligent discussions instead of the formulaic Yah-Boo style. You don't have the answers Southy. You are just part of the problem. george h
  • Score: 2

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