Hampshire Police are targeting organised drugs gangs in Southampton, Totton, Fareham and Sarisbury Green

The Charcoal Grill takeaway in Totton was searched as part of Operation Buoy the Daily Echo understands

The Charcoal Grill takeaway in Totton was searched as part of Operation Buoy the Daily Echo understands

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

SPECIALIST officers have launched a major crackdown on organised gangs across Hampshire as the war against drugs continues.

The large-scale operation swung into action, with taskforces raiding a string of commercial and residential addresses in Southampton, Totton, Fareham, and Sarisbury Green.

One raid resulted in the discovery of a cannabis factory in Crableck Lane, Sarisbury Green, where officers were confronted with around 100 cannabis plants, which were all seized.

The Daily Echo also understands one of the premises searched as part of the operation – codenamed Operation Buoy – was the Charcoal Grill takeaway in Rumbridge Street, Totton.

As reported, officers with sniffer dogs swooped on Thursday evening and carried out a thorough search of the restaurant and the rooms upstairs.

Investigators could be seen talking to staff inside the restaurant and searching the surrounding grounds.

Witnesses said they saw unmarked police cars and vans race to the building and between 20 and 30 officers descend on the restaurant.

Warrants were also carried out at commercial and residential addresses at four locations in Southampton, along with addresses in Fareham.

A 35-year-old man from Sarisbury Green and a 34-year-old man from Hedge End were both arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the production of cannabis.

They have been bailed until October 20, pending further inquiries.

Documentation was also seized from other addresses as part of the ongoing investigation, but no other arrests were made.

Police confirmed there was a significant presence of officers at each location but added that there was no threat to the public in relation to this operation.

Detective Inspector Mark Chapman, of the South East Regional Organised Crime Unit, which joined forces with the Daily Echo-backed Operation Fortress, said: “These warrants focused on the disruption of organised crime groups.

“We are working with Hampshire Constabulary’s Operation Fortress team to target those who profit from drugs supply offences and those who launder money through businesses in an attempt to legitimise their profits.

“These offences ultimately result in lives being made a misery and these warrants send out a message that if you commit these offences we will deal with you robustly, pursue you, and bring you to task for them.”

Anyone with concerns about drugs in their area should call 101 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111.

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8:18am Sun 24 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

I don't smoke drink or take drugs but what about making cannibis legal could for personal use but in a confined area such as your home I disagree with it being in a public place as children are in our streets but it could save a lot of harassment to the police!
I don't smoke drink or take drugs but what about making cannibis legal could for personal use but in a confined area such as your home I disagree with it being in a public place as children are in our streets but it could save a lot of harassment to the police! Kirsty666
  • Score: 19

9:56am Sun 24 Aug 14

Stubs says...

I like a nice doner kebab. But don't smoke cannibis as it's bad for you. So could I have chips instead please with my order.
I like a nice doner kebab. But don't smoke cannibis as it's bad for you. So could I have chips instead please with my order. Stubs
  • Score: 7

11:09am Sun 24 Aug 14

willygetaway says...

prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
prohibition just does not work never has, never will. willygetaway
  • Score: 0

11:09am Sun 24 Aug 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
I don't smoke drink or take drugs but what about making cannibis legal could for personal use but in a confined area such as your home I disagree with it being in a public place as children are in our streets but it could save a lot of harassment to the police!
And there are no children at home? Not a very well thought out comment by you kirsty666
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: I don't smoke drink or take drugs but what about making cannibis legal could for personal use but in a confined area such as your home I disagree with it being in a public place as children are in our streets but it could save a lot of harassment to the police![/p][/quote]And there are no children at home? Not a very well thought out comment by you kirsty666 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 7

12:55pm Sun 24 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies. IronLady2010
  • Score: 2

1:07pm Sun 24 Aug 14

willygetaway says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.[/p][/quote]Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO. willygetaway
  • Score: -1

1:12pm Sun 24 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.
I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.[/p][/quote]Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.[/p][/quote]I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it. IronLady2010
  • Score: 7

1:31pm Sun 24 Aug 14

willygetaway says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.
I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.
NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ?
the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type
time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid
remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.[/p][/quote]Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.[/p][/quote]I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.[/p][/quote]NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ? the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO willygetaway
  • Score: -1

1:38pm Sun 24 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.
I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.
NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ?
the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type
time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid
remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO
The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.[/p][/quote]Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.[/p][/quote]I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.[/p][/quote]NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ? the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO[/p][/quote]The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here. IronLady2010
  • Score: 8

1:45pm Sun 24 Aug 14

willygetaway says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.
I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.
NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ?
the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type
time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid
remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO
The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here.
then that is another question of supply and demand and whether the government of the day wants to be greedy. (which i suspect they will) after all they are crooks too. But if the price was kept low it would be very hard for the gardeners to do this.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.[/p][/quote]Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.[/p][/quote]I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.[/p][/quote]NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ? the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO[/p][/quote]The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here.[/p][/quote]then that is another question of supply and demand and whether the government of the day wants to be greedy. (which i suspect they will) after all they are crooks too. But if the price was kept low it would be very hard for the gardeners to do this. willygetaway
  • Score: -1

1:50pm Sun 24 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.
I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.
NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ?
the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type
time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid
remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO
The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here.
then that is another question of supply and demand and whether the government of the day wants to be greedy. (which i suspect they will) after all they are crooks too. But if the price was kept low it would be very hard for the gardeners to do this.
Agreed!
As you said the Government would be greedy and the dealers will still do there thing.
[quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.[/p][/quote]Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.[/p][/quote]I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.[/p][/quote]NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ? the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO[/p][/quote]The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here.[/p][/quote]then that is another question of supply and demand and whether the government of the day wants to be greedy. (which i suspect they will) after all they are crooks too. But if the price was kept low it would be very hard for the gardeners to do this.[/p][/quote]Agreed! As you said the Government would be greedy and the dealers will still do there thing. IronLady2010
  • Score: 8

1:55pm Sun 24 Aug 14

willygetaway says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
willygetaway wrote:
prohibition just does not work never has, never will.
Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.
Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.
I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.
NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ?
the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type
time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid
remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO
The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here.
then that is another question of supply and demand and whether the government of the day wants to be greedy. (which i suspect they will) after all they are crooks too. But if the price was kept low it would be very hard for the gardeners to do this.
Agreed!
As you said the Government would be greedy and the dealers will still do there thing.
but we cant keep saying you cant do it because i,m afraid the people have voted with their actions.
We need to decriminalise it now and free up the millions we waste trying to win that which is just not winnable.
and maybe, just maybe turn its use to some greater good.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willygetaway[/bold] wrote: prohibition just does not work never has, never will.[/p][/quote]Whilst I agree with this, Cannabis can never be made legal in this country as the Government are trying to stop people smoking normal cigs yet alone that vile smelling stuff that turns people into boring zombies.[/p][/quote]Yes, but if legalised it can be attacked the same way in which smokers are attacked today. and another revenue for taxation so it could be a way to recoup some money wasted in the NHS on druggies (ie) they would fund the treatment. and thats not counting the senseless waste of ppolice and court time. its a win win thing IMO.[/p][/quote]I disagree, there is a huge black market for normal cigs, so even having something legalised, doesn't allow the government to control it.[/p][/quote]NEWFLASH they don't control it now at least my way brings some sort of control and a solution. So what are you offering ? the stuff is grown in most streets in the uk as i type time to wake up and smell the weed i,m afraid remember prohibition does not work and funds larger enterprises. IMO[/p][/quote]The issue is, if they legalise it, the supply will be heavily taxed and the dealers will undercut on price so nothing will change. People will still buy it illegally as it's cheaper, the supply is already here.[/p][/quote]then that is another question of supply and demand and whether the government of the day wants to be greedy. (which i suspect they will) after all they are crooks too. But if the price was kept low it would be very hard for the gardeners to do this.[/p][/quote]Agreed! As you said the Government would be greedy and the dealers will still do there thing.[/p][/quote]but we cant keep saying you cant do it because i,m afraid the people have voted with their actions. We need to decriminalise it now and free up the millions we waste trying to win that which is just not winnable. and maybe, just maybe turn its use to some greater good. willygetaway
  • Score: -2

2:03pm Sun 24 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

Again, the issue is even if it were legal, you'll still have dealers, so the fight will continue. Therefore, we won't save any money unless, as you suggested the Government allow it's sales at a cheap price that dealers can't compete with.

Because we've allowed this to happen in the past, you can't stop it now.
Again, the issue is even if it were legal, you'll still have dealers, so the fight will continue. Therefore, we won't save any money unless, as you suggested the Government allow it's sales at a cheap price that dealers can't compete with. Because we've allowed this to happen in the past, you can't stop it now. IronLady2010
  • Score: 5

11:48pm Sun 24 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010
Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs.
If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use).
Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for.
Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime.
IronLady2010 Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs. If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use). Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for. Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime. southy
  • Score: -6

11:59pm Sun 24 Aug 14

southy says...

Allowing Hemp Farmers to happen again will produce a lot off avantages, like it will create new jobs, it will generate reveue and tax, it will produce fibres for ropes and cloth and shoes, it will produce bio diesel and other oils, and there is also the benefits of medication drugs, every part of a hemp plant can be used for produces. there is no wastage
Allowing Hemp Farmers to happen again will produce a lot off avantages, like it will create new jobs, it will generate reveue and tax, it will produce fibres for ropes and cloth and shoes, it will produce bio diesel and other oils, and there is also the benefits of medication drugs, every part of a hemp plant can be used for produces. there is no wastage southy
  • Score: -4

11:26am Mon 25 Aug 14

Reality-man says...

What's worse for you? Cannabis or donor kebabs? Only one way to find out........
What's worse for you? Cannabis or donor kebabs? Only one way to find out........ Reality-man
  • Score: 1

11:32am Mon 25 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010
Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs.
If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use).
Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for.
Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime.
I don't see why the dealers would need to move on to something else.
They will simply supply at a better rate and as the dealers are already here and everyone knows where to get a supply from why would you buy it legally if you can get it cheaper off your current supplier?

In an event it cannot be legalised, whilst they are hiding tobacco in stores, considering putting blank packets of cigs etc. To legalise smoking the smelly brain numbing zombie stuff will just contradict what they are trying to achieve.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs. If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use). Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for. Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime.[/p][/quote]I don't see why the dealers would need to move on to something else. They will simply supply at a better rate and as the dealers are already here and everyone knows where to get a supply from why would you buy it legally if you can get it cheaper off your current supplier? In an event it cannot be legalised, whilst they are hiding tobacco in stores, considering putting blank packets of cigs etc. To legalise smoking the smelly brain numbing zombie stuff will just contradict what they are trying to achieve. IronLady2010
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Mon 25 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010
Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs.
If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use).
Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for.
Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime.
I don't see why the dealers would need to move on to something else.
They will simply supply at a better rate and as the dealers are already here and everyone knows where to get a supply from why would you buy it legally if you can get it cheaper off your current supplier?

In an event it cannot be legalised, whilst they are hiding tobacco in stores, considering putting blank packets of cigs etc. To legalise smoking the smelly brain numbing zombie stuff will just contradict what they are trying to achieve.
The same way as USA alcohol prohibition bought about the very big mobs gangs control, such as the Mafia and others and the mob wars and was force to look into other things when alcohol prohibition ended.
Prohibition don't work never as done. legalise it and it takes away base for crimal activity they can not compeat theres no profit in it while people could get it at legal source.
Look at the reasons why Hemp was banned in the first place, the real reason and not the false propaganda that was running before and during the ban on hemp growing.
It was the big oil companys in the USA that got it banned word wide, one the one hand you had the hemp farmers coming up with away of getting the oil out of hemp Bio-Diesel, which is a threat to the oil barons also at the same time you had the oil companys coming up with a new product nylon and they needed a market for there produce, they could not take on the likes of the cotton industary they was to rich and powerful to take on, so it was the hemp farmers who was a lot poorer and had no powerful friends and was mainly Afro Americans farmers, it was the oil companys that spead the false propaganda films about the evils of hemp that had no ground breaking prof it was all base on a lie a lie that is even with us today, The hemp farmers supplied the state and merchant navy and industary with ropes, canvas, sacking and hemp for sealing like for glans and paper for caskets and sealings, The oil barons lobby not just the American Government but world wide Governments to get Hemp banned and the oil companys will supply them with nylon Ropes, nylon canvas, nylon sacking, it is no good for glans, paper and sealents (sealents took a lot longer to develope) and for this jute was used, another plant but is still legal that produces a drug that is very deadly and is use for medical purpose only (and any one is allowed to grow jute), During WWII the ban on hemp growing was lifted (oil companys could not keep up with the demand and could not even today) any one could grow it the war came to an end the ban was put back in place, Now days who also is stopping Hemp from being legalise are your big Drug companys its worth billions to them to keep a natrual drug being grown, keeping it illegal to do so makes them billions in artificial synthetic drugs that Hemp produces natrually.
You are producing the same aguement that was said in the USA about endding alcohol prohibition, and that proved to be unfounded, the suppliers of illegal alcohol moved into other areas Cocaine was one of them and we all ready have this problem here with us today, if you legalise hemp then you will give those that take cocaine to swap to hemp a drug that don't do any proven damage, and is more healther than smoking chemicials added to tobbacco or drinking alcohol
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs. If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use). Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for. Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime.[/p][/quote]I don't see why the dealers would need to move on to something else. They will simply supply at a better rate and as the dealers are already here and everyone knows where to get a supply from why would you buy it legally if you can get it cheaper off your current supplier? In an event it cannot be legalised, whilst they are hiding tobacco in stores, considering putting blank packets of cigs etc. To legalise smoking the smelly brain numbing zombie stuff will just contradict what they are trying to achieve.[/p][/quote]The same way as USA alcohol prohibition bought about the very big mobs gangs control, such as the Mafia and others and the mob wars and was force to look into other things when alcohol prohibition ended. Prohibition don't work never as done. legalise it and it takes away base for crimal activity they can not compeat theres no profit in it while people could get it at legal source. Look at the reasons why Hemp was banned in the first place, the real reason and not the false propaganda that was running before and during the ban on hemp growing. It was the big oil companys in the USA that got it banned word wide, one the one hand you had the hemp farmers coming up with away of getting the oil out of hemp Bio-Diesel, which is a threat to the oil barons also at the same time you had the oil companys coming up with a new product nylon and they needed a market for there produce, they could not take on the likes of the cotton industary they was to rich and powerful to take on, so it was the hemp farmers who was a lot poorer and had no powerful friends and was mainly Afro Americans farmers, it was the oil companys that spead the false propaganda films about the evils of hemp that had no ground breaking prof it was all base on a lie a lie that is even with us today, The hemp farmers supplied the state and merchant navy and industary with ropes, canvas, sacking and hemp for sealing like for glans and paper for caskets and sealings, The oil barons lobby not just the American Government but world wide Governments to get Hemp banned and the oil companys will supply them with nylon Ropes, nylon canvas, nylon sacking, it is no good for glans, paper and sealents (sealents took a lot longer to develope) and for this jute was used, another plant but is still legal that produces a drug that is very deadly and is use for medical purpose only (and any one is allowed to grow jute), During WWII the ban on hemp growing was lifted (oil companys could not keep up with the demand and could not even today) any one could grow it the war came to an end the ban was put back in place, Now days who also is stopping Hemp from being legalise are your big Drug companys its worth billions to them to keep a natrual drug being grown, keeping it illegal to do so makes them billions in artificial synthetic drugs that Hemp produces natrually. You are producing the same aguement that was said in the USA about endding alcohol prohibition, and that proved to be unfounded, the suppliers of illegal alcohol moved into other areas Cocaine was one of them and we all ready have this problem here with us today, if you legalise hemp then you will give those that take cocaine to swap to hemp a drug that don't do any proven damage, and is more healther than smoking chemicials added to tobbacco or drinking alcohol southy
  • Score: -3

2:23pm Mon 25 Aug 14

southy says...

Reality-man wrote:
What's worse for you? Cannabis or donor kebabs? Only one way to find out........
Well if you put extremely hot raw chilly sauce on your kebabs, I would say the karbabd will be.
[quote][p][bold]Reality-man[/bold] wrote: What's worse for you? Cannabis or donor kebabs? Only one way to find out........[/p][/quote]Well if you put extremely hot raw chilly sauce on your kebabs, I would say the karbabd will be. southy
  • Score: 0

3:43pm Mon 25 Aug 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010
Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs.
If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use).
Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for.
Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime.
I don't see why the dealers would need to move on to something else.
They will simply supply at a better rate and as the dealers are already here and everyone knows where to get a supply from why would you buy it legally if you can get it cheaper off your current supplier?

In an event it cannot be legalised, whilst they are hiding tobacco in stores, considering putting blank packets of cigs etc. To legalise smoking the smelly brain numbing zombie stuff will just contradict what they are trying to achieve.
The same way as USA alcohol prohibition bought about the very big mobs gangs control, such as the Mafia and others and the mob wars and was force to look into other things when alcohol prohibition ended.
Prohibition don't work never as done. legalise it and it takes away base for crimal activity they can not compeat theres no profit in it while people could get it at legal source.
Look at the reasons why Hemp was banned in the first place, the real reason and not the false propaganda that was running before and during the ban on hemp growing.
It was the big oil companys in the USA that got it banned word wide, one the one hand you had the hemp farmers coming up with away of getting the oil out of hemp Bio-Diesel, which is a threat to the oil barons also at the same time you had the oil companys coming up with a new product nylon and they needed a market for there produce, they could not take on the likes of the cotton industary they was to rich and powerful to take on, so it was the hemp farmers who was a lot poorer and had no powerful friends and was mainly Afro Americans farmers, it was the oil companys that spead the false propaganda films about the evils of hemp that had no ground breaking prof it was all base on a lie a lie that is even with us today, The hemp farmers supplied the state and merchant navy and industary with ropes, canvas, sacking and hemp for sealing like for glans and paper for caskets and sealings, The oil barons lobby not just the American Government but world wide Governments to get Hemp banned and the oil companys will supply them with nylon Ropes, nylon canvas, nylon sacking, it is no good for glans, paper and sealents (sealents took a lot longer to develope) and for this jute was used, another plant but is still legal that produces a drug that is very deadly and is use for medical purpose only (and any one is allowed to grow jute), During WWII the ban on hemp growing was lifted (oil companys could not keep up with the demand and could not even today) any one could grow it the war came to an end the ban was put back in place, Now days who also is stopping Hemp from being legalise are your big Drug companys its worth billions to them to keep a natrual drug being grown, keeping it illegal to do so makes them billions in artificial synthetic drugs that Hemp produces natrually.
You are producing the same aguement that was said in the USA about endding alcohol prohibition, and that proved to be unfounded, the suppliers of illegal alcohol moved into other areas Cocaine was one of them and we all ready have this problem here with us today, if you legalise hemp then you will give those that take cocaine to swap to hemp a drug that don't do any proven damage, and is more healther than smoking chemicials added to tobbacco or drinking alcohol
I can't be bothered to read that rambling. x
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 Dealers in Canibis would move to some thing else thats all, as they would not be able to make a living at it, It is known that Hemp was grown in this country long before the Romans invaded, seeds have been found in old peat bogs. If its made legal shops that would be allowed to sell it would get there suppys from a rep trader like how it works in Holland (in Holland hemp produces billions in tax and that is with people growing there own for there own use). Government on tobacco is losing the battle to stop people from smoking it, you can also grow tobbaco in this country and people have started to grow there own, its grows in the wild here if you know what your looking for. Legalise hemp it will get rid of the dealers, it would also help to reduce related crime.[/p][/quote]I don't see why the dealers would need to move on to something else. They will simply supply at a better rate and as the dealers are already here and everyone knows where to get a supply from why would you buy it legally if you can get it cheaper off your current supplier? In an event it cannot be legalised, whilst they are hiding tobacco in stores, considering putting blank packets of cigs etc. To legalise smoking the smelly brain numbing zombie stuff will just contradict what they are trying to achieve.[/p][/quote]The same way as USA alcohol prohibition bought about the very big mobs gangs control, such as the Mafia and others and the mob wars and was force to look into other things when alcohol prohibition ended. Prohibition don't work never as done. legalise it and it takes away base for crimal activity they can not compeat theres no profit in it while people could get it at legal source. Look at the reasons why Hemp was banned in the first place, the real reason and not the false propaganda that was running before and during the ban on hemp growing. It was the big oil companys in the USA that got it banned word wide, one the one hand you had the hemp farmers coming up with away of getting the oil out of hemp Bio-Diesel, which is a threat to the oil barons also at the same time you had the oil companys coming up with a new product nylon and they needed a market for there produce, they could not take on the likes of the cotton industary they was to rich and powerful to take on, so it was the hemp farmers who was a lot poorer and had no powerful friends and was mainly Afro Americans farmers, it was the oil companys that spead the false propaganda films about the evils of hemp that had no ground breaking prof it was all base on a lie a lie that is even with us today, The hemp farmers supplied the state and merchant navy and industary with ropes, canvas, sacking and hemp for sealing like for glans and paper for caskets and sealings, The oil barons lobby not just the American Government but world wide Governments to get Hemp banned and the oil companys will supply them with nylon Ropes, nylon canvas, nylon sacking, it is no good for glans, paper and sealents (sealents took a lot longer to develope) and for this jute was used, another plant but is still legal that produces a drug that is very deadly and is use for medical purpose only (and any one is allowed to grow jute), During WWII the ban on hemp growing was lifted (oil companys could not keep up with the demand and could not even today) any one could grow it the war came to an end the ban was put back in place, Now days who also is stopping Hemp from being legalise are your big Drug companys its worth billions to them to keep a natrual drug being grown, keeping it illegal to do so makes them billions in artificial synthetic drugs that Hemp produces natrually. You are producing the same aguement that was said in the USA about endding alcohol prohibition, and that proved to be unfounded, the suppliers of illegal alcohol moved into other areas Cocaine was one of them and we all ready have this problem here with us today, if you legalise hemp then you will give those that take cocaine to swap to hemp a drug that don't do any proven damage, and is more healther than smoking chemicials added to tobbacco or drinking alcohol[/p][/quote]I can't be bothered to read that rambling. x IronLady2010
  • Score: 3

4:29pm Mon 25 Aug 14

southy says...

IronLady2010
Not rambling just basic facts, facts that you got no arguement with, you only like to look at the present and not draw from what history as told us what happen. lessons are in history to help try and stop making the same mistakes.
An example might be what Thatcher done in 1981, up to Nov 1981 CB'ers was very high in number a heck alot higher than it is today, theres only a handful now compair before nov 1981, under the law that made it illegal to operate a transciver with out a licence make CB's very popular, Thatcher made it legal but the operation of AM would be still banned Thatcher made FM CB's legal and it killed off the mass of CB'ers it spilt up into two groups those that operated AM and SSB and those on FM who's range was different it died a slow death over a number of years, This was the effect of making it legal.
IronLady2010 Not rambling just basic facts, facts that you got no arguement with, you only like to look at the present and not draw from what history as told us what happen. lessons are in history to help try and stop making the same mistakes. An example might be what Thatcher done in 1981, up to Nov 1981 CB'ers was very high in number a heck alot higher than it is today, theres only a handful now compair before nov 1981, under the law that made it illegal to operate a transciver with out a licence make CB's very popular, Thatcher made it legal but the operation of AM would be still banned Thatcher made FM CB's legal and it killed off the mass of CB'ers it spilt up into two groups those that operated AM and SSB and those on FM who's range was different it died a slow death over a number of years, This was the effect of making it legal. southy
  • Score: -1

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