Housing crisis talk rejected despite fall in Southampton newbuilds

Housing crisis talk rejected despite fall in Southampton newbuilds

Housing crisis talk rejected despite fall in Southampton newbuilds

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Parliamentary Correspondent

FEWER homes are being built across Hampshire, official figures show – despite Government claims to have kick-started developments.

Just 930 new houses were started in the second quarter of this year, a fall of 25 per cent from the 1,250 that got under way in the same period last year.

They include only 50 homes that were started between April and June in Southampton – a drop from 170 over the same three-month period of 2013.

But Southampton City Council rejected suggestions of a fresh housebuilding crisis, insisting Southampton was on the verge of a boom with many developments in the pipeline.

A spokesman said: “Southampton City Council remains committed to helping to provide a new affordable home every day to help meet housing needs in the city.”

The Government was sharply criticised for axing many housing programmes when they came to power, triggering a dramatic drop in the number of homes built.

Meanwhile, local councils remain barred from borrowing money to build homes, as the Government relies on the private sector to step in.

The chronic shortage of housing is an issue rising up the political agenda, with hundreds of thousands of families languishing on council waiting lists.

The latest figures show other areas recording big drops in house starts including Eastleigh (from 130 to 80), Winchester (from 140 to 80) and the Isle of Wight (from 100 to 50).

But the trend is rosier in Fareham (up from ten to 90), Test Valley (up from 320 to 380) and Gosport (up from zero to 110).

The city council spokesman suggested Southampton’s figure was a blip, with planning permission granted to deliver 545 homes over the past year.

A total of 440 ‘affordable homes’ were on course to be completed in 2014-15, which would be the second highest number in the last decade.

The spokesman said: “Planning permissions normally last three years which means the developer can decide upon the most appropriate time to build these homes in that period.

“As a result, there is always an element of ebb and flow in development activity.

“The 59 homes scheme at the Chantry Hall site started earlier this month, along with recent work on the former Weston shopping parade and Erskine Court.”

The National Housing Federation criticised the absence of a “bold, long-term intervention” to dramatically boost housebuilding.

Rachel Fisher, its head of policy, said: “Politicians from all parties must look beyond the lifetime of the next parliament and commit to end the housing crisis in a generation.”

But Brandon Lewis, the housing minister, said: “Wherever you look across the housing market, the signs of progress are clear.”

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11:47am Mon 1 Sep 14

jen1 says...

Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse
Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse jen1
  • Score: -9

12:49pm Mon 1 Sep 14

southy says...

I wonder if Shoong is going to eat his/her words now
I wonder if Shoong is going to eat his/her words now southy
  • Score: -6

1:11pm Mon 1 Sep 14

forest hump says...

jen1 wrote:
Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse
Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers.
With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers. With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP. forest hump
  • Score: 5

1:32pm Mon 1 Sep 14

elvisimo says...

forest hump wrote:
jen1 wrote:
Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse
Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers.
With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.
Your comment point to everything that is wrong in this country. You have no understanding as to the contribution in terms of Tax revenue and GDP of immigration. You gloss over the issue of our own grown freeloaders who have no work ethic or interest in employment but think they have a god given right to do whatever they want. Manual labour and a job in a coffee shop seems beneath a huge part of our "home grown" population despite the fact that many don't have a qualification between them or the ability to string more that 2 words together.



To do anything else would go against your entrenched short sighted views. Pretty unfortunate when the article even points you in the direction of the issues with the housing market.


To some degree I hope you do get that grinning buffoon Farage and his comedy policies- reap what you sow.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers. With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]Your comment point to everything that is wrong in this country. You have no understanding as to the contribution in terms of Tax revenue and GDP of immigration. You gloss over the issue of our own grown freeloaders who have no work ethic or interest in employment but think they have a god given right to do whatever they want. Manual labour and a job in a coffee shop seems beneath a huge part of our "home grown" population despite the fact that many don't have a qualification between them or the ability to string more that 2 words together. To do anything else would go against your entrenched short sighted views. Pretty unfortunate when the article even points you in the direction of the issues with the housing market. To some degree I hope you do get that grinning buffoon Farage and his comedy policies- reap what you sow. elvisimo
  • Score: 4

1:51pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Miguel Raton says...

If the population increases faster than additional housing is provided then competition for housing will increase. This leads to higher prices and smaller living spaces. The biggest factor in the population increase is immigration. Therefore immigration is the root cause of reducing living standards. This is irrespective of any contribution made to the economy by immigration.
If the population increases faster than additional housing is provided then competition for housing will increase. This leads to higher prices and smaller living spaces. The biggest factor in the population increase is immigration. Therefore immigration is the root cause of reducing living standards. This is irrespective of any contribution made to the economy by immigration. Miguel Raton
  • Score: 9

2:03pm Mon 1 Sep 14

HillsidePaul says...

The moronic comments on here never fail to amaze me. This story is about the fact that the number of new houses BEING BUILT has dropped. How exactly is that the fault of immigrants?
The moronic comments on here never fail to amaze me. This story is about the fact that the number of new houses BEING BUILT has dropped. How exactly is that the fault of immigrants? HillsidePaul
  • Score: 3

2:03pm Mon 1 Sep 14

richieroo says...

Miguel Raton wrote:
If the population increases faster than additional housing is provided then competition for housing will increase. This leads to higher prices and smaller living spaces. The biggest factor in the population increase is immigration. Therefore immigration is the root cause of reducing living standards. This is irrespective of any contribution made to the economy by immigration.
Don't come on here spouting common sense!!. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Miguel Raton[/bold] wrote: If the population increases faster than additional housing is provided then competition for housing will increase. This leads to higher prices and smaller living spaces. The biggest factor in the population increase is immigration. Therefore immigration is the root cause of reducing living standards. This is irrespective of any contribution made to the economy by immigration.[/p][/quote]Don't come on here spouting common sense!!. :-) richieroo
  • Score: 8

4:33pm Mon 1 Sep 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
jen1 wrote:
Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse
Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers.
With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.
The ajusted net of new immigrants is massive 67,000 people in the last year, where are all these 18 million people that would head here that UKIP Farage said they would from 3 new countrys that joined the EU, Never happen
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers. With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]The ajusted net of new immigrants is massive 67,000 people in the last year, where are all these 18 million people that would head here that UKIP Farage said they would from 3 new countrys that joined the EU, Never happen southy
  • Score: -4

6:23pm Mon 1 Sep 14

james47 says...

southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
jen1 wrote:
Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse
Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers.
With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.
The ajusted net of new immigrants is massive 67,000 people in the last year, where are all these 18 million people that would head here that UKIP Farage said they would from 3 new countrys that joined the EU, Never happen
I agree with Southy's opinion that Farage is a Buffoon.
A Vote for UKIp is in reality a Vote for Labour & Ed "Bacon Sandwich" Miliband.

Housing shortages are in reality caused primarily by an inept and broken planning system designed after WWII. This is the supply problem of the equation which is broken.

However Net Immigration does increase the housing demand side of the equation...and as usual Southy knows nothing of statistics...Net migration is actually 238,000....http://ww
w.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-
28964323
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers. With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]The ajusted net of new immigrants is massive 67,000 people in the last year, where are all these 18 million people that would head here that UKIP Farage said they would from 3 new countrys that joined the EU, Never happen[/p][/quote]I agree with Southy's opinion that Farage is a Buffoon. A Vote for UKIp is in reality a Vote for Labour & Ed "Bacon Sandwich" Miliband. Housing shortages are in reality caused primarily by an inept and broken planning system designed after WWII. This is the supply problem of the equation which is broken. However Net Immigration does increase the housing demand side of the equation...and as usual Southy knows nothing of statistics...Net migration is actually 238,000....http://ww w.bbc.co.uk/news/uk- 28964323 james47
  • Score: -2

7:50pm Mon 1 Sep 14

manic75 says...

elvisimo wrote:
forest hump wrote:
jen1 wrote:
Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse
Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers.
With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.
Your comment point to everything that is wrong in this country. You have no understanding as to the contribution in terms of Tax revenue and GDP of immigration. You gloss over the issue of our own grown freeloaders who have no work ethic or interest in employment but think they have a god given right to do whatever they want. Manual labour and a job in a coffee shop seems beneath a huge part of our "home grown" population despite the fact that many don't have a qualification between them or the ability to string more that 2 words together.



To do anything else would go against your entrenched short sighted views. Pretty unfortunate when the article even points you in the direction of the issues with the housing market.


To some degree I hope you do get that grinning buffoon Farage and his comedy policies- reap what you sow.
Excellent comment. Couldn't have summarized better myself. Our bunch of moronic, Adidas wearing, intellectually disadvantaged, freeloading, lazy chav population are a species unto themselves. I feel sorry for hard working legal immigrants who seem to receive more blame than our lazy homegrown population.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers. With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]Your comment point to everything that is wrong in this country. You have no understanding as to the contribution in terms of Tax revenue and GDP of immigration. You gloss over the issue of our own grown freeloaders who have no work ethic or interest in employment but think they have a god given right to do whatever they want. Manual labour and a job in a coffee shop seems beneath a huge part of our "home grown" population despite the fact that many don't have a qualification between them or the ability to string more that 2 words together. To do anything else would go against your entrenched short sighted views. Pretty unfortunate when the article even points you in the direction of the issues with the housing market. To some degree I hope you do get that grinning buffoon Farage and his comedy policies- reap what you sow.[/p][/quote]Excellent comment. Couldn't have summarized better myself. Our bunch of moronic, Adidas wearing, intellectually disadvantaged, freeloading, lazy chav population are a species unto themselves. I feel sorry for hard working legal immigrants who seem to receive more blame than our lazy homegrown population. manic75
  • Score: 8

9:56pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
I wonder if Shoong is going to eat his/her words now
You have of course completely missed the point.

Even if it did come to eating my words, next to me you should weigh about 750 pounds Peter.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: I wonder if Shoong is going to eat his/her words now[/p][/quote]You have of course completely missed the point. Even if it did come to eating my words, next to me you should weigh about 750 pounds Peter. Shoong
  • Score: 2

10:41pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Cyrus Muro says...

Please learn to separate 2 different issues.

First issue - There are way way to many immigrants being let into this country we simply do not have the space or the resource to qualify our current free for all open door policy.

The second issue as someone elegantly and quite correctly put it "Our bunch of moronic, Adidas wearing, intellectually disadvantaged, freeloading, lazy chav population" has nothing to do with immigrants.

However both are the fault of the recent namby pamby governments something should be done about Immigration and also about kicking our own sponging scumbags into touch.

We need a government that has the balls to do something about today's current issues whether it be Immigration, Sponging scum, religious extremists or greedy banks and corporations etc etc.

Until someone grows a pair and deals this it will only get worse.
Please learn to separate 2 different issues. First issue - There are way way to many immigrants being let into this country we simply do not have the space or the resource to qualify our current free for all open door policy. The second issue as someone elegantly and quite correctly put it "Our bunch of moronic, Adidas wearing, intellectually disadvantaged, freeloading, lazy chav population" has nothing to do with immigrants. However both are the fault of the recent namby pamby governments something should be done about Immigration and also about kicking our own sponging scumbags into touch. We need a government that has the balls to do something about today's current issues whether it be Immigration, Sponging scum, religious extremists or greedy banks and corporations etc etc. Until someone grows a pair and deals this it will only get worse. Cyrus Muro
  • Score: 3

10:54pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Pobinr says...

With a stable population size there is little need to build new houses. But we now have millions of East Europeans come here in the last 6 years & that's why the Southampton social housing queue is 8+ years long!
Open border policy with poor countries is totally irresponsible.
No one voted for this nightmare.
A load of people from poor countries in Eastern Europe desperate for £6 per hour jobs in Costa & Starbucks etc, so paying next to no tax, but still entitled to working family tax credits, child benefit, NHS, subsidised housing, free translators in schools & subsidised nursery care all paid for by us.
All adding to traffic congestion, the housing shortage, more houses on greenbelt, longer NHS queues, more dependence on food & energy imports.
Meantime the already low density population countries they come from get poorer & further depopulated due to mass exodus of their workforce.
That is the ones that are working of course.
I was speaking to Pole the other day at 11am.
I asked him how come you're not at work?
He replied he 'Couldn't get any more chef work here'
I said will you be going back to Poland then?
He replied 'No I steel beetar off here' !
On the dole !
So having worked for a short while on min wage having paid next to no tax or NI he can spend years here on the dole if he chooses at our expense!
Under EU dictat XYZ retired East Europeans that have been here a year are entitled to their £120 a month pension topped up to around £500 a month UK pension paid for by us. We pay NI for 40 years to get a UK pension. They pay for 0 years!

Southampton General Hospital has had to put extra operating theatres in portakabins on the roof of the 6 storey main block to accomodate all the extra patients due to mass immigration. They've had to buy motorised beds to get them up the slope it's so steep & it takes three members of staff to push the anaesthetic trolleys up there. All due to mass immigration.

Open borders are the equivalent of taking the locks of your front door!
They'll keep coming here until we're as poor as them.
We are overuled & overun

Vote UKIP on principle
With a stable population size there is little need to build new houses. But we now have millions of East Europeans come here in the last 6 years & that's why the Southampton social housing queue is 8+ years long! Open border policy with poor countries is totally irresponsible. No one voted for this nightmare. A load of people from poor countries in Eastern Europe desperate for £6 per hour jobs in Costa & Starbucks etc, so paying next to no tax, but still entitled to working family tax credits, child benefit, NHS, subsidised housing, free translators in schools & subsidised nursery care all paid for by us. All adding to traffic congestion, the housing shortage, more houses on greenbelt, longer NHS queues, more dependence on food & energy imports. Meantime the already low density population countries they come from get poorer & further depopulated due to mass exodus of their workforce. That is the ones that are working of course. I was speaking to Pole the other day at 11am. I asked him how come you're not at work? He replied he 'Couldn't get any more chef work here' I said will you be going back to Poland then? He replied 'No I steel beetar off here' ! On the dole ! So having worked for a short while on min wage having paid next to no tax or NI he can spend years here on the dole if he chooses at our expense! Under EU dictat XYZ retired East Europeans that have been here a year are entitled to their £120 a month pension topped up to around £500 a month UK pension paid for by us. We pay NI for 40 years to get a UK pension. They pay for 0 years! Southampton General Hospital has had to put extra operating theatres in portakabins on the roof of the 6 storey main block to accomodate all the extra patients due to mass immigration. They've had to buy motorised beds to get them up the slope it's so steep & it takes three members of staff to push the anaesthetic trolleys up there. All due to mass immigration. Open borders are the equivalent of taking the locks of your front door! They'll keep coming here until we're as poor as them. We are overuled & overun Vote UKIP on principle Pobinr
  • Score: 2

11:02pm Mon 1 Sep 14

Pobinr says...

james47 wrote:
southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
jen1 wrote:
Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse
Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers.
With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.
The ajusted net of new immigrants is massive 67,000 people in the last year, where are all these 18 million people that would head here that UKIP Farage said they would from 3 new countrys that joined the EU, Never happen
I agree with Southy's opinion that Farage is a Buffoon.
A Vote for UKIp is in reality a Vote for Labour & Ed "Bacon Sandwich" Miliband.

Housing shortages are in reality caused primarily by an inept and broken planning system designed after WWII. This is the supply problem of the equation which is broken.

However Net Immigration does increase the housing demand side of the equation...and as usual Southy knows nothing of statistics...Net migration is actually 238,000....http://ww

w.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-

28964323
james47 wrote:
'Net migration is actually 238,000....http://ww w.bbc.co.uk/news/uk- 28964323'

You swallow the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation propoganda. BBC gets EU grants & the director is an ex EU commisioner.
It's now known people have not been counted in or out. Border constrol is useless so how can they quote a figure of net migration?
So many East European here now you hear in the street. There's 5m or maybe 10m here
[quote][p][bold]james47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jen1[/bold] wrote: Far too many immigrants, that's the problem and it's getting worse[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Look at recent figures which show the net influx of people. This is and has been a total drain on the UK taxpayer. I defy anyone to argue against. This and previous Governments should hang their heads in shame over this policy. Now is the time to kick Europe into touch and get tough with the benefits scroungers in this country. If you want a good example of how to manage a country, look at Norway/ Switzerland. No nonsense, no Europe, no scroungers. With the election just around the corner, just wait and see all the false promises come out of the woodwork. Then, once in Government, it will all change. Liars and cheats. Vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]The ajusted net of new immigrants is massive 67,000 people in the last year, where are all these 18 million people that would head here that UKIP Farage said they would from 3 new countrys that joined the EU, Never happen[/p][/quote]I agree with Southy's opinion that Farage is a Buffoon. A Vote for UKIp is in reality a Vote for Labour & Ed "Bacon Sandwich" Miliband. Housing shortages are in reality caused primarily by an inept and broken planning system designed after WWII. This is the supply problem of the equation which is broken. However Net Immigration does increase the housing demand side of the equation...and as usual Southy knows nothing of statistics...Net migration is actually 238,000....http://ww w.bbc.co.uk/news/uk- 28964323[/p][/quote]james47 wrote: 'Net migration is actually 238,000....http://ww w.bbc.co.uk/news/uk- 28964323' You swallow the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation propoganda. BBC gets EU grants & the director is an ex EU commisioner. It's now known people have not been counted in or out. Border constrol is useless so how can they quote a figure of net migration? So many East European here now you hear in the street. There's 5m or maybe 10m here Pobinr
  • Score: 1
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