Southampton General Hospital said they discussed proton beam radiotherapy with the King's but didn't recommend it

Hospital were willing to support Ashya's transfer

Hospital were willing to support Ashya's transfer

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SOUTHAMPTON Hospital bosses have this afternoon confirmed they were willing to support Ashya’s transfer to Europe for proton beam radiotherapy.

A spokesperson for University Hospital Southampton NHS Foundation Trust, which runs Southampton General Hospital, said that they did discuss the option of treatment at the Proton Therapy Centre in Prague and had made contact with the centre.

They added: “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it.

“The Proton Therapy Centre has been in touch again yesterday afternoon to enquire about Ashya’s potential future care and confirm that they would be keen to treat him if he is suitable according to the relevant criteria.

“We have of course been open to discussing this, however, since Ashya is a ward of court, at this stage it is for a judge to make all future decisions regarding his treatment.

“The decision to apply for ward of court was made by Portsmouth City Council with our support and on the advice of Hampshire Police.”

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2:20pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

Thanks for the article. Perhaps Portsmouth City Council would now like to drop the case, as their immensely heavy handed treatment of the parents in association with Hampshire Police has resulted in the separation of the boy from his parents. These people should remember actions have consequences.
Thanks for the article. Perhaps Portsmouth City Council would now like to drop the case, as their immensely heavy handed treatment of the parents in association with Hampshire Police has resulted in the separation of the boy from his parents. These people should remember actions have consequences. Donald2000
  • Score: 12

2:31pm Tue 2 Sep 14

11marshaa says...

Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!! 11marshaa
  • Score: 5

2:44pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lone Ranger. says...

So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -5

2:44pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
I think you are missing the fact that the child boarded the ferry in Portsmouth along with its parents. It was an enterprise on behalf of Portsmouth City Council to stop the parents before they boarded that ferry. Unfortunately the bid failed. However Portsmouth City Council would have notified Hampshire Constabulary to try to stop the family in Portsmouth before they boarded the ferry. HTH.
[quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]I think you are missing the fact that the child boarded the ferry in Portsmouth along with its parents. It was an enterprise on behalf of Portsmouth City Council to stop the parents before they boarded that ferry. Unfortunately the bid failed. However Portsmouth City Council would have notified Hampshire Constabulary to try to stop the family in Portsmouth before they boarded the ferry. HTH. Donald2000
  • Score: 1

2:45pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated.
And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.
[quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated. And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn. southy
  • Score: -12

2:47pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague. southy
  • Score: 4

2:49pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lone Ranger. says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house ....
.
I just dont call that responsible parenting
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.[/p][/quote]So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house .... . I just dont call that responsible parenting Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -15

2:53pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Raxx says...

southy wrote:
11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated.
And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.
Cobblers.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated. And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.[/p][/quote]Cobblers. Raxx
  • Score: 5

2:53pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
They may have used Portsmouth Council for securing a court order for variou reasons only known to the police and Southampton hospital.

Southampton Council may have refused to be part of witch hunt against parents trying to pay for treatment for their child in another European country.

And found Portsmouth Council easy going for rubber stamping the idea without listening to parents, which will be very odd.

Or because the family live in Portsmouth Council's Social Service area/jurisdiction.
[quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]They may have used Portsmouth Council for securing a court order for variou reasons only known to the police and Southampton hospital. Southampton Council may have refused to be part of witch hunt against parents trying to pay for treatment for their child in another European country. And found Portsmouth Council easy going for rubber stamping the idea without listening to parents, which will be very odd. Or because the family live in Portsmouth Council's Social Service area/jurisdiction. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
If you have been following what I have said on at least three of these threads you will have noticed that the original instigators of the legal action have been Portsmouth City Council who tried to stop the child and his parents getting out of the country at Portsmouth Ferryport by making the child a ward of court.

Since when do people have to accept what doctors recommend? Since the precipitate action of the doctors in phoning the police, they have tied themselves up in legal knots, including parting the boy from its parents. Does this make any sense?

What more is to come out. The parents have not neglected the child. They have committed no crime. Stop blindly believing what you are told by authority figures. Start thinking about what's really ongoing here.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]If you have been following what I have said on at least three of these threads you will have noticed that the original instigators of the legal action have been Portsmouth City Council who tried to stop the child and his parents getting out of the country at Portsmouth Ferryport by making the child a ward of court. Since when do people have to accept what doctors recommend? Since the precipitate action of the doctors in phoning the police, they have tied themselves up in legal knots, including parting the boy from its parents. Does this make any sense? What more is to come out. The parents have not neglected the child. They have committed no crime. Stop blindly believing what you are told by authority figures. Start thinking about what's really ongoing here. Donald2000
  • Score: 4

2:57pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots.
Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots. Donald2000
  • Score: 1

3:01pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated.
And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.
Cobblers.
Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy.
[quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated. And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.[/p][/quote]Cobblers.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy. Donald2000
  • Score: -3

3:05pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Marianruth says...

The only person that matters here is that poorly sick 5year old who is separated from his parents and family when he needs them most. Surely it isn't beyond the authorities to reunite them all and sort out the legalities when he is more settled.
The only person that matters here is that poorly sick 5year old who is separated from his parents and family when he needs them most. Surely it isn't beyond the authorities to reunite them all and sort out the legalities when he is more settled. Marianruth
  • Score: 4

3:09pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

I have just heard on BBC News that the Hampshire Police are now saying that the child should be with its parents. In which case they should cancel the International Arrest Warrant and notify the Court in Madrid there is no case to answer. They should do this straightaway.
I have just heard on BBC News that the Hampshire Police are now saying that the child should be with its parents. In which case they should cancel the International Arrest Warrant and notify the Court in Madrid there is no case to answer. They should do this straightaway. Donald2000
  • Score: 5

3:12pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

CPS now seeking to withdraw the warrant. Real progress.
CPS now seeking to withdraw the warrant. Real progress. Donald2000
  • Score: 2

3:16pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house ....
.
I just dont call that responsible parenting
Your vulgar comment tarnishing parents trying hard to even pay for their child's treatment may be your own subjective opinion.

Without knowing their personal circumstances, this only a guess:

Everybody is not super rich to have their own executive jet, of which you may have even two on the basis of his and hers parked in climate controlled hangers on a private airfield.

So the ordinary family decided to travel by car because it was lot cheaper than standard airline tickets.

Also don't forget that this family needs every penny they can raise for paying for treatment of their child's health. That is why they were trying to sell even their house.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.[/p][/quote]So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house .... . I just dont call that responsible parenting[/p][/quote]Your vulgar comment tarnishing parents trying hard to even pay for their child's treatment may be your own subjective opinion. Without knowing their personal circumstances, this only a guess: Everybody is not super rich to have their own executive jet, of which you may have even two on the basis of his and hers parked in climate controlled hangers on a private airfield. So the ordinary family decided to travel by car because it was lot cheaper than standard airline tickets. Also don't forget that this family needs every penny they can raise for paying for treatment of their child's health. That is why they were trying to sell even their house. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: 12

3:19pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

The international arrest warrant has been withdrawn. Its looking very much as if the wardship order will also be revoked. The parents will probably be released soon. An excellent result.
The international arrest warrant has been withdrawn. Its looking very much as if the wardship order will also be revoked. The parents will probably be released soon. An excellent result. Donald2000
  • Score: 1

3:43pm Tue 2 Sep 14

gscuderi says...

I strongly believe an investigation need to be made to determine whether or not the Southampton Hospital employee acted in the best interests of the poor child, as well as the Hampshire police and all the others involved in this disgrace.

I heard on the radio a representative from an hospital in Prague (if I'm not mistaken) saying that the only call they got from the Southampton General Hospital was made only yesterday, meaning that they were NOT willing to support the transfer of the poor child before all of that happened.

The father is saying he tried to talk more than once with the consultants at General Hospital about other threatments, but he was threatened on doing so again using a possible court order as
deterrent (if true who said that need to be suspended for a while, at least).

Those things "may" explain why this family decided to leave the hospital and travel to spain with an ill child, and try to sell their holiday house to pay the treatment themself, instead of just apply for the NHS to fund the treatment and let the hospital transfer their child.
I strongly believe an investigation need to be made to determine whether or not the Southampton Hospital employee acted in the best interests of the poor child, as well as the Hampshire police and all the others involved in this disgrace. I heard on the radio a representative from an hospital in Prague (if I'm not mistaken) saying that the only call they got from the Southampton General Hospital was made only yesterday, meaning that they were NOT willing to support the transfer of the poor child before all of that happened. The father is saying he tried to talk more than once with the consultants at General Hospital about other threatments, but he was threatened on doing so again using a possible court order as deterrent (if true who said that need to be suspended for a while, at least). Those things "may" explain why this family decided to leave the hospital and travel to spain with an ill child, and try to sell their holiday house to pay the treatment themself, instead of just apply for the NHS to fund the treatment and let the hospital transfer their child. gscuderi
  • Score: 7

4:00pm Tue 2 Sep 14

forest hump says...

Donald2000 wrote:
Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots.
Lots of face saving and retractions now! I suspect the blame machine will start to roll. How about saving all that time and money of an investigation and just pay for the lad to have the best treatment available. I can see them all now jostling for position in the accusation game.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots.[/p][/quote]Lots of face saving and retractions now! I suspect the blame machine will start to roll. How about saving all that time and money of an investigation and just pay for the lad to have the best treatment available. I can see them all now jostling for position in the accusation game. forest hump
  • Score: 6

4:03pm Tue 2 Sep 14

forest hump says...

gscuderi wrote:
I strongly believe an investigation need to be made to determine whether or not the Southampton Hospital employee acted in the best interests of the poor child, as well as the Hampshire police and all the others involved in this disgrace.

I heard on the radio a representative from an hospital in Prague (if I'm not mistaken) saying that the only call they got from the Southampton General Hospital was made only yesterday, meaning that they were NOT willing to support the transfer of the poor child before all of that happened.

The father is saying he tried to talk more than once with the consultants at General Hospital about other threatments, but he was threatened on doing so again using a possible court order as
deterrent (if true who said that need to be suspended for a while, at least).

Those things "may" explain why this family decided to leave the hospital and travel to spain with an ill child, and try to sell their holiday house to pay the treatment themself, instead of just apply for the NHS to fund the treatment and let the hospital transfer their child.
Don't waste time and money on an investigation. There will be lies and more lies. Simply save the cost and pay for the best treatment available. Get 2nd and 3rd opinions if necessary.
[quote][p][bold]gscuderi[/bold] wrote: I strongly believe an investigation need to be made to determine whether or not the Southampton Hospital employee acted in the best interests of the poor child, as well as the Hampshire police and all the others involved in this disgrace. I heard on the radio a representative from an hospital in Prague (if I'm not mistaken) saying that the only call they got from the Southampton General Hospital was made only yesterday, meaning that they were NOT willing to support the transfer of the poor child before all of that happened. The father is saying he tried to talk more than once with the consultants at General Hospital about other threatments, but he was threatened on doing so again using a possible court order as deterrent (if true who said that need to be suspended for a while, at least). Those things "may" explain why this family decided to leave the hospital and travel to spain with an ill child, and try to sell their holiday house to pay the treatment themself, instead of just apply for the NHS to fund the treatment and let the hospital transfer their child.[/p][/quote]Don't waste time and money on an investigation. There will be lies and more lies. Simply save the cost and pay for the best treatment available. Get 2nd and 3rd opinions if necessary. forest hump
  • Score: 5

4:09pm Tue 2 Sep 14

sotonboy84 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house ....
.
I just dont call that responsible parenting
Not surprised you don't understand compassion and the love parents can have for their children and will move the world to keep them safe and healthy. You only ever make whimpy insulting comments in a pathetic bid to get a reaction. Sad.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.[/p][/quote]So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house .... . I just dont call that responsible parenting[/p][/quote]Not surprised you don't understand compassion and the love parents can have for their children and will move the world to keep them safe and healthy. You only ever make whimpy insulting comments in a pathetic bid to get a reaction. Sad. sotonboy84
  • Score: 19

4:14pm Tue 2 Sep 14

forest hump says...

sotonboy84 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house ....
.
I just dont call that responsible parenting
Not surprised you don't understand compassion and the love parents can have for their children and will move the world to keep them safe and healthy. You only ever make whimpy insulting comments in a pathetic bid to get a reaction. Sad.
Good comment
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.[/p][/quote]So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house .... . I just dont call that responsible parenting[/p][/quote]Not surprised you don't understand compassion and the love parents can have for their children and will move the world to keep them safe and healthy. You only ever make whimpy insulting comments in a pathetic bid to get a reaction. Sad.[/p][/quote]Good comment forest hump
  • Score: 11

4:23pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house ....
.
I just dont call that responsible parenting
they could off boarded the car transpoter train, also if they did go by car how many times did they stop on the way.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.[/p][/quote]So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house .... . I just dont call that responsible parenting[/p][/quote]they could off boarded the car transpoter train, also if they did go by car how many times did they stop on the way. southy
  • Score: -1

4:31pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots.
Lots of face saving and retractions now! I suspect the blame machine will start to roll. How about saving all that time and money of an investigation and just pay for the lad to have the best treatment available. I can see them all now jostling for position in the accusation game.
The blame machine had all ready started on the day they realise the boy was gone.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots.[/p][/quote]Lots of face saving and retractions now! I suspect the blame machine will start to roll. How about saving all that time and money of an investigation and just pay for the lad to have the best treatment available. I can see them all now jostling for position in the accusation game.[/p][/quote]The blame machine had all ready started on the day they realise the boy was gone. southy
  • Score: 2

4:33pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

Donald2000 wrote:
The international arrest warrant has been withdrawn. Its looking very much as if the wardship order will also be revoked. The parents will probably be released soon. An excellent result.
Thats good to hear.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: The international arrest warrant has been withdrawn. Its looking very much as if the wardship order will also be revoked. The parents will probably be released soon. An excellent result.[/p][/quote]Thats good to hear. southy
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

Donald2000 wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated.
And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.
Cobblers.
Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy.
People do not realise Donald who makes Hospital Policy, its not down to the doctors and nurses they get caught up in the middle when some thing go's wrong and end up with the blame along side with the NHS and the Trust who are corporate and private sector, who are really to blame get away with it, they will push the blame away.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated. And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.[/p][/quote]Cobblers.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy.[/p][/quote]People do not realise Donald who makes Hospital Policy, its not down to the doctors and nurses they get caught up in the middle when some thing go's wrong and end up with the blame along side with the NHS and the Trust who are corporate and private sector, who are really to blame get away with it, they will push the blame away. southy
  • Score: 4

4:47pm Tue 2 Sep 14

forest hump says...

southy wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated.
And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.
Cobblers.
Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy.
People do not realise Donald who makes Hospital Policy, its not down to the doctors and nurses they get caught up in the middle when some thing go's wrong and end up with the blame along side with the NHS and the Trust who are corporate and private sector, who are really to blame get away with it, they will push the blame away.
Explain in detail how the private sector make the decisions of SUHT?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated. And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.[/p][/quote]Cobblers.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy.[/p][/quote]People do not realise Donald who makes Hospital Policy, its not down to the doctors and nurses they get caught up in the middle when some thing go's wrong and end up with the blame along side with the NHS and the Trust who are corporate and private sector, who are really to blame get away with it, they will push the blame away.[/p][/quote]Explain in detail how the private sector make the decisions of SUHT? forest hump
  • Score: -2

4:51pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
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Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
A very good set of questions that deserve an answer.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]A very good set of questions that deserve an answer. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

sotonboy84 says...

gscuderi wrote:
I strongly believe an investigation need to be made to determine whether or not the Southampton Hospital employee acted in the best interests of the poor child, as well as the Hampshire police and all the others involved in this disgrace.

I heard on the radio a representative from an hospital in Prague (if I'm not mistaken) saying that the only call they got from the Southampton General Hospital was made only yesterday, meaning that they were NOT willing to support the transfer of the poor child before all of that happened.

The father is saying he tried to talk more than once with the consultants at General Hospital about other threatments, but he was threatened on doing so again using a possible court order as
deterrent (if true who said that need to be suspended for a while, at least).

Those things "may" explain why this family decided to leave the hospital and travel to spain with an ill child, and try to sell their holiday house to pay the treatment themself, instead of just apply for the NHS to fund the treatment and let the hospital transfer their child.
If the news I read is correct, I believe Mr King contacted the hospital in Prague on 20th August which predates the hospital's request.
[quote][p][bold]gscuderi[/bold] wrote: I strongly believe an investigation need to be made to determine whether or not the Southampton Hospital employee acted in the best interests of the poor child, as well as the Hampshire police and all the others involved in this disgrace. I heard on the radio a representative from an hospital in Prague (if I'm not mistaken) saying that the only call they got from the Southampton General Hospital was made only yesterday, meaning that they were NOT willing to support the transfer of the poor child before all of that happened. The father is saying he tried to talk more than once with the consultants at General Hospital about other threatments, but he was threatened on doing so again using a possible court order as deterrent (if true who said that need to be suspended for a while, at least). Those things "may" explain why this family decided to leave the hospital and travel to spain with an ill child, and try to sell their holiday house to pay the treatment themself, instead of just apply for the NHS to fund the treatment and let the hospital transfer their child.[/p][/quote]If the news I read is correct, I believe Mr King contacted the hospital in Prague on 20th August which predates the hospital's request. sotonboy84
  • Score: 8

5:05pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
southy wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
Raxx wrote:
southy wrote:
11marshaa wrote:
Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!!
Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated.
And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.
Cobblers.
Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy.
People do not realise Donald who makes Hospital Policy, its not down to the doctors and nurses they get caught up in the middle when some thing go's wrong and end up with the blame along side with the NHS and the Trust who are corporate and private sector, who are really to blame get away with it, they will push the blame away.
Explain in detail how the private sector make the decisions of SUHT?
The Trust board is the Private sector, and its there policy that the Hospital follows
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Raxx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]11marshaa[/bold] wrote: Surley it shouldn't be Portsmouth council to decide everything shouldn't it be Southampton Council to deal with it?? After all its Southampton it all happend in not Portsmouth!![/p][/quote]Nothing to do with any Council, it is the Corporational Hostpital Trust, it would of come from them to block any out side from doing treatment and it would come from them to allow it, The Doctor would of been acting from orders from above (from the trust) to stop or to put the parents off from taking the child to some where else to be treated. And because of all the publicity the Trust have had to do a fast U-turn.[/p][/quote]Cobblers.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately true. Poor old Southy.[/p][/quote]People do not realise Donald who makes Hospital Policy, its not down to the doctors and nurses they get caught up in the middle when some thing go's wrong and end up with the blame along side with the NHS and the Trust who are corporate and private sector, who are really to blame get away with it, they will push the blame away.[/p][/quote]Explain in detail how the private sector make the decisions of SUHT?[/p][/quote]The Trust board is the Private sector, and its there policy that the Hospital follows southy
  • Score: 0

5:06pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Donald2000 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
If you have been following what I have said on at least three of these threads you will have noticed that the original instigators of the legal action have been Portsmouth City Council who tried to stop the child and his parents getting out of the country at Portsmouth Ferryport by making the child a ward of court.

Since when do people have to accept what doctors recommend? Since the precipitate action of the doctors in phoning the police, they have tied themselves up in legal knots, including parting the boy from its parents. Does this make any sense?

What more is to come out. The parents have not neglected the child. They have committed no crime. Stop blindly believing what you are told by authority figures. Start thinking about what's really ongoing here.
Oh and you know whats really going on do you ?? ...... strangely enough i dont think that you do .......
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It may have helped if you had read and tried to understand my post rather than trying to spout your own agenda ...
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You are aas much in the dark or have as much knowledge as anyone else on here and probably a lot less than others .....
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Where did i say they commited a crime ?
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Where did i say anything about neglect ?
.
Where did i say that they had to accept what doctors have recommended ?
.
And yes i have read somer of your threads and that are NOTHING to do with my post
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]If you have been following what I have said on at least three of these threads you will have noticed that the original instigators of the legal action have been Portsmouth City Council who tried to stop the child and his parents getting out of the country at Portsmouth Ferryport by making the child a ward of court. Since when do people have to accept what doctors recommend? Since the precipitate action of the doctors in phoning the police, they have tied themselves up in legal knots, including parting the boy from its parents. Does this make any sense? What more is to come out. The parents have not neglected the child. They have committed no crime. Stop blindly believing what you are told by authority figures. Start thinking about what's really ongoing here.[/p][/quote]Oh and you know whats really going on do you ?? ...... strangely enough i dont think that you do ....... . It may have helped if you had read and tried to understand my post rather than trying to spout your own agenda ... . You are aas much in the dark or have as much knowledge as anyone else on here and probably a lot less than others ..... . Where did i say they commited a crime ? . Where did i say anything about neglect ? . Where did i say that they had to accept what doctors have recommended ? . And yes i have read somer of your threads and that are NOTHING to do with my post Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -4

5:08pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Donald2000 wrote:
Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots.
Seems like you are the only one that is acting like a hysterical kid. !!!
.
After all who would ever consider these parents to be sensible ?
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: Everybody concerned needs to withdraw legal action. The family need to be free to be with the child. Simple. This is a case of sensible parents knowing the best course of action. Portsmouth City Council, Hanpshire Police and the Southampton Hospital need to pipe down and quit acting like hysterical idiots.[/p][/quote]Seems like you are the only one that is acting like a hysterical kid. !!! . After all who would ever consider these parents to be sensible ? Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -10

5:16pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house ....
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I just dont call that responsible parenting
Your vulgar comment tarnishing parents trying hard to even pay for their child's treatment may be your own subjective opinion.

Without knowing their personal circumstances, this only a guess:

Everybody is not super rich to have their own executive jet, of which you may have even two on the basis of his and hers parked in climate controlled hangers on a private airfield.

So the ordinary family decided to travel by car because it was lot cheaper than standard airline tickets.

Also don't forget that this family needs every penny they can raise for paying for treatment of their child's health. That is why they were trying to sell even their house.
Lets get this right before you throw anymore wild name calling at me PB.
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Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ??
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Were they going to get the cash for the house on the day or just going to put it up for sale ?
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Now i dont know what sort of person you are or particulary care ..... but i know if i had a child that ill i would be leaving him in an environment that was safe .... with some family at hand ......... And not drag my child in the back of a people carrier 600 miles away ......
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But there again perhaps i am a caring parent ..... you make your own mind up what you are
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.[/p][/quote]So they drive for a day with a sick child in the car, using a charger and food off the internet ...... just to sell a house .... . I just dont call that responsible parenting[/p][/quote]Your vulgar comment tarnishing parents trying hard to even pay for their child's treatment may be your own subjective opinion. Without knowing their personal circumstances, this only a guess: Everybody is not super rich to have their own executive jet, of which you may have even two on the basis of his and hers parked in climate controlled hangers on a private airfield. So the ordinary family decided to travel by car because it was lot cheaper than standard airline tickets. Also don't forget that this family needs every penny they can raise for paying for treatment of their child's health. That is why they were trying to sell even their house.[/p][/quote]Lets get this right before you throw anymore wild name calling at me PB. . Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ?? . Were they going to get the cash for the house on the day or just going to put it up for sale ? . Now i dont know what sort of person you are or particulary care ..... but i know if i had a child that ill i would be leaving him in an environment that was safe .... with some family at hand ......... And not drag my child in the back of a people carrier 600 miles away ...... . But there again perhaps i am a caring parent ..... you make your own mind up what you are Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -5

6:01pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger
Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ??

I would say with both Parents being there then its could be a law that requires they both be there for the sale to sign papers, or its a case of both parents names are on the properity deeds, it could also need both there to set up transfer of money to the Hospital that will be giving treatment.
There could be a number of reasons, But I expect it what was said at the Hospital about taking the child away from them if they carry on in persuing the course about beam treatment, This order would off been the Hospital Trust Board policy and the order filtered down to the NHS Doctors
Lone Ranger Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ?? I would say with both Parents being there then its could be a law that requires they both be there for the sale to sign papers, or its a case of both parents names are on the properity deeds, it could also need both there to set up transfer of money to the Hospital that will be giving treatment. There could be a number of reasons, But I expect it what was said at the Hospital about taking the child away from them if they carry on in persuing the course about beam treatment, This order would off been the Hospital Trust Board policy and the order filtered down to the NHS Doctors southy
  • Score: 2

6:09pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lone Ranger. says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger
Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ??

I would say with both Parents being there then its could be a law that requires they both be there for the sale to sign papers, or its a case of both parents names are on the properity deeds, it could also need both there to set up transfer of money to the Hospital that will be giving treatment.
There could be a number of reasons, But I expect it what was said at the Hospital about taking the child away from them if they carry on in persuing the course about beam treatment, This order would off been the Hospital Trust Board policy and the order filtered down to the NHS Doctors
Once again you and others really have not read my post.
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You are puting in about orders and the Trust board ... something that i have not even mentioned.
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Your comments about selling a house are incorrect
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lone Ranger Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ?? I would say with both Parents being there then its could be a law that requires they both be there for the sale to sign papers, or its a case of both parents names are on the properity deeds, it could also need both there to set up transfer of money to the Hospital that will be giving treatment. There could be a number of reasons, But I expect it what was said at the Hospital about taking the child away from them if they carry on in persuing the course about beam treatment, This order would off been the Hospital Trust Board policy and the order filtered down to the NHS Doctors[/p][/quote]Once again you and others really have not read my post. . You are puting in about orders and the Trust board ... something that i have not even mentioned. . Your comments about selling a house are incorrect Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -4

6:18pm Tue 2 Sep 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger
Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ??

I would say with both Parents being there then its could be a law that requires they both be there for the sale to sign papers, or its a case of both parents names are on the properity deeds, it could also need both there to set up transfer of money to the Hospital that will be giving treatment.
There could be a number of reasons, But I expect it what was said at the Hospital about taking the child away from them if they carry on in persuing the course about beam treatment, This order would off been the Hospital Trust Board policy and the order filtered down to the NHS Doctors
Once again you and others really have not read my post.
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You are puting in about orders and the Trust board ... something that i have not even mentioned.
.
Your comments about selling a house are incorrect
In Spain maybe, maybe not I do not know the requirements that is required in Spain, like I do not know what these people was driving for I know it could of been some thing like a winnipeg tourer camper van or how many stops they made on the way.
I was just answering your part Q, And Like I said the bit you missed out, "I expect"
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lone Ranger Is it not possible for one parent to go and sell the house ..... Without taking the poorly child with them ?? I would say with both Parents being there then its could be a law that requires they both be there for the sale to sign papers, or its a case of both parents names are on the properity deeds, it could also need both there to set up transfer of money to the Hospital that will be giving treatment. There could be a number of reasons, But I expect it what was said at the Hospital about taking the child away from them if they carry on in persuing the course about beam treatment, This order would off been the Hospital Trust Board policy and the order filtered down to the NHS Doctors[/p][/quote]Once again you and others really have not read my post. . You are puting in about orders and the Trust board ... something that i have not even mentioned. . Your comments about selling a house are incorrect[/p][/quote]In Spain maybe, maybe not I do not know the requirements that is required in Spain, like I do not know what these people was driving for I know it could of been some thing like a winnipeg tourer camper van or how many stops they made on the way. I was just answering your part Q, And Like I said the bit you missed out, "I expect" southy
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Tue 2 Sep 14

sass says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice .....
.
Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?.
.
Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet
They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.
"they went there to sell their home," they're not the same!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: So why didnt the family accept what the hospital offered ... .... “We were willing to support the family’s transfer to Prague for proton beam radiotherapy, although we did not recommend it" .......... Or even listen to their advice ..... . Why did they take the child all that way to the South of Spain when that particular course of treatment was in Prague ?. . Just get the feeling that there may be a fair bit more to come out of this yet[/p][/quote]They went there to sell there home so they could pay for the medical treatment in Prague.[/p][/quote]"they went there to sell their home," they're not the same! sass
  • Score: 2
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