Brett and Naghmeh King have walked free from custody after withdrawal of arrests warrants

Brett and Naghemeh King leave Soto Del Real prison in Madrid last night

Brett and Naghemeh King leave Soto Del Real prison in Madrid last night

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THE PARENTS of Ashya King were today set to be reunited with their little boy after being released from custody last night.

Brett and Naghmeh King have walked free from custody and were expected to rush to the side of their seriously-ill five year old today after a 200-mile journey from Madrid.

They were faced with a media scrum as they walked from Soto de Real prision to a car which was waiting to whisk them away last night.

It is thought the couple may have stopped to visit their lawyer to sign legal papers before continuing their journey.

Mr King spoke of his relief to be free and how they were desperate to see their son.

He added: ''We are very grateful to Spain for the support and help we have received.

''We will go to see my son as soon as possible, we have been dying to see his face for so long.

'"Thank you to Spain for helping us and thank you to England too.''

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Ashya King

It is understood they are heading to Seville to meet with their lawyer, where they are expected to hold a press conference tomorrow morning, before going to see Ashya.

The five-year-old's brother Danny had earlier confirmed his parents release adding: ''I'm in shock, at the moment, we've been waiting so long for this moment to come, and it's finally come.''

The National Court in Madrid said in a statement that a judge had decided to free the couple after British authorities dropped the case against them.

The father of Ethan Dallas, the teenager who presented a 126,000-signature petition to Downing Street today to get the King's released, said he had received a call from his son confirming the breaking news.

Richard told the Daily Echo: “He is trying to contact him so that they can Skype and talk face to face.

“It’s been a roller coaster.

“What we wanted to accomplish has been done.

“It’s now about getting the lad better.

“This isn’t a journey that has reached its destination but now we can focus on raising the funds to help towards the cost of his treatment.”

It comes just hours after the arrest warrant that has been keeping the parents away from Ashya had been  withdrawn.

A spokesman for the service which initially requested the warrant, said that following a review of the case lawyers in Hampshire had decided to withdrawn it.

The CPS have been given approval by Southampton Magistrates Court have the warrant officially dropped.

That development is now being communicated to the Spanish authorities in time for the extradition hearing that is scheduled to be held in Madrid tomorrow morning.

A statement by the CPS read: ''The CPS is currently taking steps to withdraw the European arrest warrants in relation to Brett and Naghmeh King.

''No further action will be taken against Mr and Mrs King and we are now in the process of communicating this decision to the Spanish authorities so that they can be reunited with their son as soon as possible.''

It could mean that Ashya's parents Brett and Naghmeh King could be reunited with their son tomorrow.

The decision to drop the warrant has been welcomed by Simon Hayes, Police and Crime Commissioner for Hampshire.

He said: “The Crown Prosecution Service has made the correct decision to withdraw the European Arrest Warrant. Now Mr and Mrs King can be reunited with Ashya and other members of their family.

“This is a very complex situation and I understand why Hampshire Constabulary took the action it did to request the issuing of the warrant. In light of today's announcement by the CPS, I now need to be assured as to the quality of the information given by Southampton General Hospital to Hampshire Constabulary.

Daily Echo: Hampshire Police and Crime Commissioner Simon Hayes

Hampshire Police and Crime Commissioner Simon Hayes

“Now that Ashya is receiving the medical assistance he requires and Mr and Mrs King will be reunited with him, this is the time to analyse decisions that were made.

“What is important is that the Ashya's family can continue with their quest to get the medical support that he requires.”

The move by the CPS comes after mounting pressure to drop the case to allow Ashya to have his parents by his bedside in Malaga.

It came hours after a petition signed by more than 100,000 people was presented to the Prime Minister.

More than 200,000 people signed it and more than £25,000 had been donated to cancer charity kidsncancer.

Sanjay Ganatra, who presented the petition along with a family friend Ethan Dallas, said it had been “a really successful day”.

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Sanjay Ganatra

He said: “The fact that they have withdrawn the arrest is brilliant. Hopefully the Spanish authorities will do something about it. We're really hoping that they will let go free.”

But despite the outcome Sanjay is still not happy with the situation Ashya's family is in.

He said: “I'm relieved but I'm not happy because they're still in jail and they should be with their child. Whilst it's brilliant what we've achieved today, whilst the arrest warrant's been lifted, I'm just hoping that the authorities will do everything they can to allow Ashya to be with his parents. That's when I will be happy.”

David Cameron called for a ''rapid outbreak of common sense'' to allow brain tumour patient Ashya to be reunited with his parents who were arrested in Spain after Ashya was taken from Southampton General Hospital without doctors' consent.

This afternoon Mr Cameron tweeted: “I welcome the prosecution against #AshyaKings parents being dropped. It is important that this little boy gets treatment & the love of his family.”

Meanwhile, hospital bosses in Malaga have said they would change their visiting hours that would now allow Ashya's brother David to be able to visit his sick brother.

The children's grandmother Patricia King said at least Ashya would be able to see a familiar face.

Now at least Danny can see him any time he wants, at least that will help. At least he has someone he loves with him and he won't be on his own.”

She also accused Southampton General Hospital and Hampshire police of backtracking.

As previously reported medical bosses released a statement earlier today in which they said they would support Ashya receiving the proton beam treatment that his family had been pushing for.

And last night hospital chiefs for the first time laid bare their reasons for being so concerned for Ashya’s safety.
University Hospital Southampton NHS Foundation Trust (UHS) outlined the six reasons why medics felt the young boy’s life was at risk.
These were:

- Ashya was dependent on a nasogastric tube for food and his parents are not trained to use it.

- Although the food pump had been removed with Ashya, the power cord had been left behind on the ward. The feed pump does have a battery but it is only for occasional use

- If a nasogastric tube became displaced either accidentally or through vomiting there was a possibility that feed could enter the lungs with potentially fatal consequences.

- Ashya has no gag reflex and the family are not trained to deal with the (potentially serious) complications of choking.

- Ashya developed a temperature the previous day and there were concerns that he may develop an infection.

- Ashya needed to start his chemotherapy within the week to ensure the best chances of complete recovery.

Hampshire's Chief Constable also released a letter which he had written to colleagues in the CPS, Southampton general Hospital and the Home Office in which he called for the parents to be reunited with Ashya.

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4:49pm Tue 2 Sep 14

kingkong 1 says...

Amen.
Amen. kingkong 1
  • Score: 15

5:10pm Tue 2 Sep 14

james rood says...

I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took! james rood
  • Score: -27

5:24pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
[quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant. Donald2000
  • Score: -19

5:29pm Tue 2 Sep 14

espanuel says...

james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
[quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU. espanuel
  • Score: -20

5:34pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Try not to feed him. You know jolly well that he has just expressed an extremely ignorant viewpoint.
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Try not to feed him. You know jolly well that he has just expressed an extremely ignorant viewpoint. Donald2000
  • Score: -8

5:41pm Tue 2 Sep 14

excusemoi says...

HORRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
HORRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! excusemoi
  • Score: 10

5:42pm Tue 2 Sep 14

espanuel says...

Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically. espanuel
  • Score: 9

5:46pm Tue 2 Sep 14

riverbanks says...

espanuel wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
Most parents would have done exactly the same.
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.[/p][/quote]Most parents would have done exactly the same. riverbanks
  • Score: 15

5:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lordcem says...

Well its taken them long enough to come to their senses! This whole episode was nothing but a farce with an arrest warrant obtained on a false premise. The police responsible should lose their jobs for incompetence on this scale shows that they are unfit for their office. The false arrest and imprisonment will surely mean this persecuted family will receive large and well deserved compensation. Hospitals throughout the country should also be aware that they are not in control of anyone and they are there to treat the sick if they so wish. If they or in the case of a child the parents object to any treatment then their wishes must always take precedent over all. Unless of course there is a valid court order obtained legally and properly in force. The police in Hampshire were a law unto themselves and they deserve all the flak they are bound to receive. I hope the family can try and move forward from this moment without any further harassment.
Well its taken them long enough to come to their senses! This whole episode was nothing but a farce with an arrest warrant obtained on a false premise. The police responsible should lose their jobs for incompetence on this scale shows that they are unfit for their office. The false arrest and imprisonment will surely mean this persecuted family will receive large and well deserved compensation. Hospitals throughout the country should also be aware that they are not in control of anyone and they are there to treat the sick if they so wish. If they or in the case of a child the parents object to any treatment then their wishes must always take precedent over all. Unless of course there is a valid court order obtained legally and properly in force. The police in Hampshire were a law unto themselves and they deserve all the flak they are bound to receive. I hope the family can try and move forward from this moment without any further harassment. Lordcem
  • Score: 18

6:11pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Donald2000 says...

espanuel wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
When you are legally qualified, as I am, then come back and argue with me. I have been right all along; the legal issues have been withdrawn. You are wrong. Go away and shut up.
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.[/p][/quote]When you are legally qualified, as I am, then come back and argue with me. I have been right all along; the legal issues have been withdrawn. You are wrong. Go away and shut up. Donald2000
  • Score: -4

6:15pm Tue 2 Sep 14

gscuderi says...

We are not talking about a family that was trying to get a better treatment (available in many european countries), and whether or not the medical stuff at Southampton General Hospital think this treatment isn't better, they must allow the family to get a second medical opinion, at least at their own expense if the NHS don't want to fund it for some reason.

Get a second medical opinion should be a patient rights, and whether or not the doctors agree with that, they should support them in such choice in the best interest of the patient.
We are not talking about a family that was trying to get a better treatment (available in many european countries), and whether or not the medical stuff at Southampton General Hospital think this treatment isn't better, they must allow the family to get a second medical opinion, at least at their own expense if the NHS don't want to fund it for some reason. Get a second medical opinion should be a patient rights, and whether or not the doctors agree with that, they should support them in such choice in the best interest of the patient. gscuderi
  • Score: 13

6:16pm Tue 2 Sep 14

gscuderi says...

gscuderi wrote:
We are not talking about a family that was trying to get a better treatment (available in many european countries), and whether or not the medical stuff at Southampton General Hospital think this treatment isn't better, they must allow the family to get a second medical opinion, at least at their own expense if the NHS don't want to fund it for some reason.

Get a second medical opinion should be a patient rights, and whether or not the doctors agree with that, they should support them in such choice in the best interest of the patient.
It was obviously "We are talking about.."
[quote][p][bold]gscuderi[/bold] wrote: We are not talking about a family that was trying to get a better treatment (available in many european countries), and whether or not the medical stuff at Southampton General Hospital think this treatment isn't better, they must allow the family to get a second medical opinion, at least at their own expense if the NHS don't want to fund it for some reason. Get a second medical opinion should be a patient rights, and whether or not the doctors agree with that, they should support them in such choice in the best interest of the patient.[/p][/quote]It was obviously "We are talking about.." gscuderi
  • Score: 1

6:17pm Tue 2 Sep 14

westongirl says...

espanuel wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
dinlo
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.[/p][/quote]dinlo westongirl
  • Score: 4

6:18pm Tue 2 Sep 14

biggus2 says...

Why did it take 8 hours ;before the Police were informed. By that time the were already in France and on the way to Spain. The Hospital clearly had a difference of opinion with the family over the boys treatment. I would suggest that the Hospital Management informed the Police and on their information and opinion they instigated the search. Clearly the Hospital Management gave the Police a slanted view in order that the Police and CPS could get a warrant to detain the parents and apply for a European Arrest Warrant. Don't blame the Police for the action taken it was on the advice and information given by the Hospital.
Why did it take 8 hours ;before the Police were informed. By that time the were already in France and on the way to Spain. The Hospital clearly had a difference of opinion with the family over the boys treatment. I would suggest that the Hospital Management informed the Police and on their information and opinion they instigated the search. Clearly the Hospital Management gave the Police a slanted view in order that the Police and CPS could get a warrant to detain the parents and apply for a European Arrest Warrant. Don't blame the Police for the action taken it was on the advice and information given by the Hospital. biggus2
  • Score: 13

6:40pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Here, There says...

espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong. Here, There
  • Score: 0

6:48pm Tue 2 Sep 14

sentinal72 says...

Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
Your comments are equally ignorant and one sided,

Medics are not police and did not act as police; however a child in their care who was and is still unwell went missing from their care with no explanation.
The hospital informed police of concerns for the child's well-being, Hampshire police then took whatever action they felt appropriate at the time,
I'm sure that if the child had come to harm and nothing had been done you would be equally balanced in your view?
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]Your comments are equally ignorant and one sided, Medics are not police and did not act as police; however a child in their care who was and is still unwell went missing from their care with no explanation. The hospital informed police of concerns for the child's well-being, Hampshire police then took whatever action they felt appropriate at the time, I'm sure that if the child had come to harm and nothing had been done you would be equally balanced in your view? sentinal72
  • Score: 20

6:54pm Tue 2 Sep 14

espanuel says...

Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.
Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.
[quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.[/p][/quote]Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH. espanuel
  • Score: 18

7:07pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Here, There says...

espanuel wrote:
Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.
Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.
They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same !
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.[/p][/quote]Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.[/p][/quote]They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same ! Here, There
  • Score: 8

7:10pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lordcem says...

Donald2000 wrote:
espanuel wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
When you are legally qualified, as I am, then come back and argue with me. I have been right all along; the legal issues have been withdrawn. You are wrong. Go away and shut up.
The police are not required in any sense to take instructions or even suggestions from a hospital. Whatever they were doing in this sad case it certainly was not carrying out their proper duties. The arrogance of Mr Shead the Assistant Chief Constable refusing to even apologise speaks volumes of how certain officer like to think they are above the law. He was quick to ponce about in front of the television cameras but I don't seem to see him now! I wonder why? He and his kind have no place in the position he holds and the sooner he considers his untenable position and departs the better it will be. This family has been vilified thanks to his incompetent actions.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.[/p][/quote]When you are legally qualified, as I am, then come back and argue with me. I have been right all along; the legal issues have been withdrawn. You are wrong. Go away and shut up.[/p][/quote]The police are not required in any sense to take instructions or even suggestions from a hospital. Whatever they were doing in this sad case it certainly was not carrying out their proper duties. The arrogance of Mr Shead the Assistant Chief Constable refusing to even apologise speaks volumes of how certain officer like to think they are above the law. He was quick to ponce about in front of the television cameras but I don't seem to see him now! I wonder why? He and his kind have no place in the position he holds and the sooner he considers his untenable position and departs the better it will be. This family has been vilified thanks to his incompetent actions. Lordcem
  • Score: 1

7:17pm Tue 2 Sep 14

sentinal72 says...

Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.
Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.
They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same !
A protection order simply for suggesting a different treatment- don't be ridiculous such an order could not have been granted on those grounds, anyone can refuse treatment and leave a hospital its very simple really you just say I do not wish to have any further treatment and then leave.

In the case of a child parents hold consent for the treatment of the child unless the child is made a ward of court.
[quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.[/p][/quote]Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.[/p][/quote]They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same ![/p][/quote]A protection order simply for suggesting a different treatment- don't be ridiculous such an order could not have been granted on those grounds, anyone can refuse treatment and leave a hospital its very simple really you just say I do not wish to have any further treatment and then leave. In the case of a child parents hold consent for the treatment of the child unless the child is made a ward of court. sentinal72
  • Score: 2

7:30pm Tue 2 Sep 14

yellowcard says...

Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The hospital had a duty of care to report there concerns. The police had a duty to investigate. The police followed the right course of action until proven the child was not at risk once he was found and seen he was not at risk steps have been taken to reunite them. Plenty of people would of been on their soap box if nothing had been done and he had of died.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The hospital had a duty of care to report there concerns. The police had a duty to investigate. The police followed the right course of action until proven the child was not at risk once he was found and seen he was not at risk steps have been taken to reunite them. Plenty of people would of been on their soap box if nothing had been done and he had of died. yellowcard
  • Score: 21

7:51pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Here, There says...

sentinal72 wrote:
Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.
Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.
They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same !
A protection order simply for suggesting a different treatment- don't be ridiculous such an order could not have been granted on those grounds, anyone can refuse treatment and leave a hospital its very simple really you just say I do not wish to have any further treatment and then leave.

In the case of a child parents hold consent for the treatment of the child unless the child is made a ward of court.
Mr King in his Video Recording stated that they had indeed been threatened with A Protection Order... So as ridiculous as it is that was what the King's were up against.
[quote][p][bold]sentinal72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.[/p][/quote]Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.[/p][/quote]They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same ![/p][/quote]A protection order simply for suggesting a different treatment- don't be ridiculous such an order could not have been granted on those grounds, anyone can refuse treatment and leave a hospital its very simple really you just say I do not wish to have any further treatment and then leave. In the case of a child parents hold consent for the treatment of the child unless the child is made a ward of court.[/p][/quote]Mr King in his Video Recording stated that they had indeed been threatened with A Protection Order... So as ridiculous as it is that was what the King's were up against. Here, There
  • Score: 6

8:43pm Tue 2 Sep 14

speedyuk says...

How dare you lot come here and slag off our fabulous NHS and police service. The parents took this little boy and placed him at risk, if they wanted to take him abroad for treatment they should have sorted this in the proper manner with the hospitals concerned so that this poor little boy was prepared and transported safely. The parents placed him at risk and although I do not think arresting them and keeping them in a jail was right something had to be done.

None of us know the information that the hospital have or what the police were told the police were damed if they do and damed if they don't. Imagine if the headline read 'terminally ill child dies after police did nothing to find him'. you do gooders would be jumping up and down then

It is nice to see a chief officer standing by the decisions of his troops and I hope the PCC does not now head hunt along with the police hating home secretary we have.

The parents would never have been arrested I agree but this little boy had to be found this should never even had to go back through the court or CPS when they were found the child should have been taken in to police protection and taken to the nearest hospital.

Now we have some jumped up lawyer that will make thousands and the parents will make some quick cash to. Our hospital and police do a wonderful job with hardly any staff and poor and more pressure placed on them. Stop slagging them off and making a judgement on things you do not know one day you may need the emergency services help they all do a great job.

DE remove the right to comment end of let the parents be in peace with this sick little man and hope he gets he treatment he needs, just think it should have been organised in the proper manner by the parents and not just take him. Ask yourself this when they were found were they in a hospital answer is NO they put him at risk plain and simple and our emergency services were more concerned about saving a life than the politics something they all risk their selves doing to protect us so all get off your soap boxes and get a grip
How dare you lot come here and slag off our fabulous NHS and police service. The parents took this little boy and placed him at risk, if they wanted to take him abroad for treatment they should have sorted this in the proper manner with the hospitals concerned so that this poor little boy was prepared and transported safely. The parents placed him at risk and although I do not think arresting them and keeping them in a jail was right something had to be done. None of us know the information that the hospital have or what the police were told the police were damed if they do and damed if they don't. Imagine if the headline read 'terminally ill child dies after police did nothing to find him'. you do gooders would be jumping up and down then It is nice to see a chief officer standing by the decisions of his troops and I hope the PCC does not now head hunt along with the police hating home secretary we have. The parents would never have been arrested I agree but this little boy had to be found this should never even had to go back through the court or CPS when they were found the child should have been taken in to police protection and taken to the nearest hospital. Now we have some jumped up lawyer that will make thousands and the parents will make some quick cash to. Our hospital and police do a wonderful job with hardly any staff and poor and more pressure placed on them. Stop slagging them off and making a judgement on things you do not know one day you may need the emergency services help they all do a great job. DE remove the right to comment end of let the parents be in peace with this sick little man and hope he gets he treatment he needs, just think it should have been organised in the proper manner by the parents and not just take him. Ask yourself this when they were found were they in a hospital answer is NO they put him at risk plain and simple and our emergency services were more concerned about saving a life than the politics something they all risk their selves doing to protect us so all get off your soap boxes and get a grip speedyuk
  • Score: 3

9:23pm Tue 2 Sep 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

speedyuk wrote:
How dare you lot come here and slag off our fabulous NHS and police service. The parents took this little boy and placed him at risk, if they wanted to take him abroad for treatment they should have sorted this in the proper manner with the hospitals concerned so that this poor little boy was prepared and transported safely. The parents placed him at risk and although I do not think arresting them and keeping them in a jail was right something had to be done.

None of us know the information that the hospital have or what the police were told the police were damed if they do and damed if they don't. Imagine if the headline read 'terminally ill child dies after police did nothing to find him'. you do gooders would be jumping up and down then

It is nice to see a chief officer standing by the decisions of his troops and I hope the PCC does not now head hunt along with the police hating home secretary we have.

The parents would never have been arrested I agree but this little boy had to be found this should never even had to go back through the court or CPS when they were found the child should have been taken in to police protection and taken to the nearest hospital.

Now we have some jumped up lawyer that will make thousands and the parents will make some quick cash to. Our hospital and police do a wonderful job with hardly any staff and poor and more pressure placed on them. Stop slagging them off and making a judgement on things you do not know one day you may need the emergency services help they all do a great job.

DE remove the right to comment end of let the parents be in peace with this sick little man and hope he gets he treatment he needs, just think it should have been organised in the proper manner by the parents and not just take him. Ask yourself this when they were found were they in a hospital answer is NO they put him at risk plain and simple and our emergency services were more concerned about saving a life than the politics something they all risk their selves doing to protect us so all get off your soap boxes and get a grip
another deluded happy clapper , seems the hospital has done a complete u turn and now the proton beam therapy is being offered ,heads should roll.
[quote][p][bold]speedyuk[/bold] wrote: How dare you lot come here and slag off our fabulous NHS and police service. The parents took this little boy and placed him at risk, if they wanted to take him abroad for treatment they should have sorted this in the proper manner with the hospitals concerned so that this poor little boy was prepared and transported safely. The parents placed him at risk and although I do not think arresting them and keeping them in a jail was right something had to be done. None of us know the information that the hospital have or what the police were told the police were damed if they do and damed if they don't. Imagine if the headline read 'terminally ill child dies after police did nothing to find him'. you do gooders would be jumping up and down then It is nice to see a chief officer standing by the decisions of his troops and I hope the PCC does not now head hunt along with the police hating home secretary we have. The parents would never have been arrested I agree but this little boy had to be found this should never even had to go back through the court or CPS when they were found the child should have been taken in to police protection and taken to the nearest hospital. Now we have some jumped up lawyer that will make thousands and the parents will make some quick cash to. Our hospital and police do a wonderful job with hardly any staff and poor and more pressure placed on them. Stop slagging them off and making a judgement on things you do not know one day you may need the emergency services help they all do a great job. DE remove the right to comment end of let the parents be in peace with this sick little man and hope he gets he treatment he needs, just think it should have been organised in the proper manner by the parents and not just take him. Ask yourself this when they were found were they in a hospital answer is NO they put him at risk plain and simple and our emergency services were more concerned about saving a life than the politics something they all risk their selves doing to protect us so all get off your soap boxes and get a grip[/p][/quote]another deluded happy clapper , seems the hospital has done a complete u turn and now the proton beam therapy is being offered ,heads should roll. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: -2

9:25pm Tue 2 Sep 14

davesotonuk says...

Would it not be fairer to say everybody overstepped the mark?

The parents for vanishing with no notice.

The hospital staff at consultant level who clearly have communication issues.

The police who could track them in seconds using mobile/card payments rather than clumsy legal instruments.

The Spanish authorities for the degrading treatment of the family.

Overall there are lessons for everyone. The first one saying sorry.
Would it not be fairer to say everybody overstepped the mark? The parents for vanishing with no notice. The hospital staff at consultant level who clearly have communication issues. The police who could track them in seconds using mobile/card payments rather than clumsy legal instruments. The Spanish authorities for the degrading treatment of the family. Overall there are lessons for everyone. The first one saying sorry. davesotonuk
  • Score: 11

9:30pm Tue 2 Sep 14

sotontotty says...

Who are we to judge? Whether right or wrong Aysha's parents did what they thought was in their sons best interests. Like I'm sure any caring parent would do.
Who are we to judge? Whether right or wrong Aysha's parents did what they thought was in their sons best interests. Like I'm sure any caring parent would do. sotontotty
  • Score: 7

9:33pm Tue 2 Sep 14

speedyuk says...

We don't know the full facts so nots let lay blame the child is safe main thing I think x
We don't know the full facts so nots let lay blame the child is safe main thing I think x speedyuk
  • Score: 7

9:39pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
Please try not to be completely stupid. The Hospital and the Police are being blamed for this whole sorry mess, that was started by whom? You know nothing of the real circumstances surrounding this case, as I don't and most of the posters on here don't. In the fullness of time the facts of this case will be revealed. If you are wrong, I do hope you will come back here and admit your stupidity. Please try not to be so ignorant.
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]Please try not to be completely stupid. The Hospital and the Police are being blamed for this whole sorry mess, that was started by whom? You know nothing of the real circumstances surrounding this case, as I don't and most of the posters on here don't. In the fullness of time the facts of this case will be revealed. If you are wrong, I do hope you will come back here and admit your stupidity. Please try not to be so ignorant. Sir Ad E Noid
  • Score: 6

10:11pm Tue 2 Sep 14

saintsfan76 says...

speedyuk wrote:
How dare you lot come here and slag off our fabulous NHS and police service. The parents took this little boy and placed him at risk, if they wanted to take him abroad for treatment they should have sorted this in the proper manner with the hospitals concerned so that this poor little boy was prepared and transported safely. The parents placed him at risk and although I do not think arresting them and keeping them in a jail was right something had to be done.

None of us know the information that the hospital have or what the police were told the police were damed if they do and damed if they don't. Imagine if the headline read 'terminally ill child dies after police did nothing to find him'. you do gooders would be jumping up and down then

It is nice to see a chief officer standing by the decisions of his troops and I hope the PCC does not now head hunt along with the police hating home secretary we have.

The parents would never have been arrested I agree but this little boy had to be found this should never even had to go back through the court or CPS when they were found the child should have been taken in to police protection and taken to the nearest hospital.

Now we have some jumped up lawyer that will make thousands and the parents will make some quick cash to. Our hospital and police do a wonderful job with hardly any staff and poor and more pressure placed on them. Stop slagging them off and making a judgement on things you do not know one day you may need the emergency services help they all do a great job.

DE remove the right to comment end of let the parents be in peace with this sick little man and hope he gets he treatment he needs, just think it should have been organised in the proper manner by the parents and not just take him. Ask yourself this when they were found were they in a hospital answer is NO they put him at risk plain and simple and our emergency services were more concerned about saving a life than the politics something they all risk their selves doing to protect us so all get off your soap boxes and get a grip
Reading through the posts here and this one has struck for me the voice of reason. I know there are some here who have no sympathy with the police or hospital. This family clearly put a lot of effort and thought into taking their child and heading to Spain with the equipment needed to keep him alive. They have carried social media with them together with help from.their son and his friend. Arresting them was an option i think was totally wrongas does virtually everyone on here. I hope the medical experts are proved wrong and the treatment they want for their son works. They shouldnt have any problem raising the money now if all those that signed the online petition there should even be some money left which maybe they can donate back to the general for the care and treatment they have given him so far and for other children in a similar life threatening condition. We all know of countless children that have been treated at the general and touched by the care they recieve. If nothing else we all know what proton beam treatment is now.
[quote][p][bold]speedyuk[/bold] wrote: How dare you lot come here and slag off our fabulous NHS and police service. The parents took this little boy and placed him at risk, if they wanted to take him abroad for treatment they should have sorted this in the proper manner with the hospitals concerned so that this poor little boy was prepared and transported safely. The parents placed him at risk and although I do not think arresting them and keeping them in a jail was right something had to be done. None of us know the information that the hospital have or what the police were told the police were damed if they do and damed if they don't. Imagine if the headline read 'terminally ill child dies after police did nothing to find him'. you do gooders would be jumping up and down then It is nice to see a chief officer standing by the decisions of his troops and I hope the PCC does not now head hunt along with the police hating home secretary we have. The parents would never have been arrested I agree but this little boy had to be found this should never even had to go back through the court or CPS when they were found the child should have been taken in to police protection and taken to the nearest hospital. Now we have some jumped up lawyer that will make thousands and the parents will make some quick cash to. Our hospital and police do a wonderful job with hardly any staff and poor and more pressure placed on them. Stop slagging them off and making a judgement on things you do not know one day you may need the emergency services help they all do a great job. DE remove the right to comment end of let the parents be in peace with this sick little man and hope he gets he treatment he needs, just think it should have been organised in the proper manner by the parents and not just take him. Ask yourself this when they were found were they in a hospital answer is NO they put him at risk plain and simple and our emergency services were more concerned about saving a life than the politics something they all risk their selves doing to protect us so all get off your soap boxes and get a grip[/p][/quote]Reading through the posts here and this one has struck for me the voice of reason. I know there are some here who have no sympathy with the police or hospital. This family clearly put a lot of effort and thought into taking their child and heading to Spain with the equipment needed to keep him alive. They have carried social media with them together with help from.their son and his friend. Arresting them was an option i think was totally wrongas does virtually everyone on here. I hope the medical experts are proved wrong and the treatment they want for their son works. They shouldnt have any problem raising the money now if all those that signed the online petition there should even be some money left which maybe they can donate back to the general for the care and treatment they have given him so far and for other children in a similar life threatening condition. We all know of countless children that have been treated at the general and touched by the care they recieve. If nothing else we all know what proton beam treatment is now. saintsfan76
  • Score: 6

10:17pm Tue 2 Sep 14

sotonboy84 says...

sentinal72 wrote:
Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.
Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.
They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same !
A protection order simply for suggesting a different treatment- don't be ridiculous such an order could not have been granted on those grounds, anyone can refuse treatment and leave a hospital its very simple really you just say I do not wish to have any further treatment and then leave.

In the case of a child parents hold consent for the treatment of the child unless the child is made a ward of court.
You're quite misinformed about this story judging by your comments.

Mr King claims that the doctor treating his son threatened that if the parents continued to question his treatment he would apply for a court order to treat their son without their consent. This is why the family left without informing the hospital to seek other treatment at their own expense.

The family & the Spanish doctors support that the child is in better health that Southampton General Hospital claimed. It was the hospital's claim that the child was desperately ill & his life was at risk that caused the police search & scale of events we've witnessed over the past few days.

The child was made a ward of court AFTER they left the UK and in response to them leaving so there was a reason to arrest the parents as they had done nothing wrong. This is unjust & a clear abuse of power.

This I trust clarifies your assumptions.
[quote][p][bold]sentinal72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.[/p][/quote]Should not have taken the child away in the first place without informing SGH. Then you wouldn't have had all these problems in the first place. As I have said before the police took action on the information that they were given from SGH.[/p][/quote]They were faced with the threat of a Protection order for simply suggesting a different form of treatment had they informed those specialists of their intention to remove their Son do you think they would have been allowed ? No way would they have so knowing that they removed their Son and as I have said before few in their position would not have done the same ![/p][/quote]A protection order simply for suggesting a different treatment- don't be ridiculous such an order could not have been granted on those grounds, anyone can refuse treatment and leave a hospital its very simple really you just say I do not wish to have any further treatment and then leave. In the case of a child parents hold consent for the treatment of the child unless the child is made a ward of court.[/p][/quote]You're quite misinformed about this story judging by your comments. Mr King claims that the doctor treating his son threatened that if the parents continued to question his treatment he would apply for a court order to treat their son without their consent. This is why the family left without informing the hospital to seek other treatment at their own expense. The family & the Spanish doctors support that the child is in better health that Southampton General Hospital claimed. It was the hospital's claim that the child was desperately ill & his life was at risk that caused the police search & scale of events we've witnessed over the past few days. The child was made a ward of court AFTER they left the UK and in response to them leaving so there was a reason to arrest the parents as they had done nothing wrong. This is unjust & a clear abuse of power. This I trust clarifies your assumptions. sotonboy84
  • Score: 4

10:56pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Kirsty666 says...

I'm pleased they have been released so they can return to their little boy. The main fact here police hospital and parents it's a lot of he said she said. All I hope now is that he is getting the medical care he needs that is not too harmful rather than parents arguing with hospital staff because it's not what they feel is best for their child any treatment needs to be best for the patient rather than it's in our budget to do this but not that so he can't have that.
I'm pleased they have been released so they can return to their little boy. The main fact here police hospital and parents it's a lot of he said she said. All I hope now is that he is getting the medical care he needs that is not too harmful rather than parents arguing with hospital staff because it's not what they feel is best for their child any treatment needs to be best for the patient rather than it's in our budget to do this but not that so he can't have that. Kirsty666
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Lordcem says...

Here, There wrote:
espanuel wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.
Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.
Espanuel seems to have a hidden agenda. I am beginning to wonder if he has some connection with either the hospital or Hampshiire Police. His comments certainly fly in the face of public opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Here, There[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]I TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU.[/p][/quote]Despite all that has happened espanuel continues to put sole blame on the Parents, so not "Knowing All" but knowing a lot more the majority can accept the Parents did nothing more than do what they felt right for their Child and should not have been subject to the nightmare of the last few days..grow up espanuel and accept it was wrong.[/p][/quote]Espanuel seems to have a hidden agenda. I am beginning to wonder if he has some connection with either the hospital or Hampshiire Police. His comments certainly fly in the face of public opinion. Lordcem
  • Score: 4

10:59pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Kirsty666 says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
I'm pleased they have been released so they can return to their little boy. The main fact here police hospital and parents it's a lot of he said she said. All I hope now is that he is getting the medical care he needs that is not too harmful rather than parents arguing with hospital staff because it's not what they feel is best for their child any treatment needs to be best for the patient rather than it's in our budget to do this but not that so he can't have that.
Just to add that's why drug companies exist to make money rather than find a cure
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: I'm pleased they have been released so they can return to their little boy. The main fact here police hospital and parents it's a lot of he said she said. All I hope now is that he is getting the medical care he needs that is not too harmful rather than parents arguing with hospital staff because it's not what they feel is best for their child any treatment needs to be best for the patient rather than it's in our budget to do this but not that so he can't have that.[/p][/quote]Just to add that's why drug companies exist to make money rather than find a cure Kirsty666
  • Score: 3

12:37am Wed 3 Sep 14

george h says...

espanuel wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
No! That's not true. And you know its not true. You know that you are being dishonest. The police didn't act on the considered view of the medical profession, as you dishonestly put it. The police acted on information from a disgruntled consultant. Disgruntled because the parents had lost confidence in his judgement, and were actively seeking other medical solutions from other equally qualified doctors.

Being dishonest doesn't do your special pleading any good.
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.[/p][/quote]No! That's not true. And you know its not true. You know that you are being dishonest. The police didn't act on the considered view of the medical profession, as you dishonestly put it. The police acted on information from a disgruntled consultant. Disgruntled because the parents had lost confidence in his judgement, and were actively seeking other medical solutions from other equally qualified doctors. Being dishonest doesn't do your special pleading any good. george h
  • Score: 1

1:12am Wed 3 Sep 14

BeyondImagination says...

Arrested and imprisoned for going against doctors advice. The police role was to find the family and ensure the safety of the child. They used legislation aimed at terrorists and dangerous criminals. The police were much too slow to react once they were found.
Arrested and imprisoned for going against doctors advice. The police role was to find the family and ensure the safety of the child. They used legislation aimed at terrorists and dangerous criminals. The police were much too slow to react once they were found. BeyondImagination
  • Score: 0

2:02am Wed 3 Sep 14

kiz.bartlett says...

I'm really glad that the family can meet with their child now, and they can support him throughout his treatment. Its difficult to be in this position anyway, let alone being separated.

But i also know that there is a lot of legal issues which every member of the public services is required to go through. Its not ideal, but if it were the worst case scenario its the best response.

No one has the chance to have a chit-chat before the worst happens with any case, so to fear the worst is the best action. The police have pretty much said "its best to be safe than sorry". Its not ideal, but if this were not an act of compassion then there would be a lot of uproar about where our public services were and who was keeping him safe.

As i say, i'm happy that the family is now able to visit their child. But i also realise that based on the knowledge the public services had, they had a wide spectrum of issues.
I'm really glad that the family can meet with their child now, and they can support him throughout his treatment. Its difficult to be in this position anyway, let alone being separated. But i also know that there is a lot of legal issues which every member of the public services is required to go through. Its not ideal, but if it were the worst case scenario its the best response. No one has the chance to have a chit-chat before the worst happens with any case, so to fear the worst is the best action. The police have pretty much said "its best to be safe than sorry". Its not ideal, but if this were not an act of compassion then there would be a lot of uproar about where our public services were and who was keeping him safe. As i say, i'm happy that the family is now able to visit their child. But i also realise that based on the knowledge the public services had, they had a wide spectrum of issues. kiz.bartlett
  • Score: 1

2:08am Wed 3 Sep 14

kiz.bartlett says...

I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but i'm just wondering something. With all these comments flying back and forth, has anyone been in the care of SGH at the time of their treatment, on the same ward and have reasonable knowledge of care that the doctors did for others?
I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but i'm just wondering something. With all these comments flying back and forth, has anyone been in the care of SGH at the time of their treatment, on the same ward and have reasonable knowledge of care that the doctors did for others? kiz.bartlett
  • Score: 0

5:09am Wed 3 Sep 14

hatch says...

Have I missed something, does anyone know who this family are , they appear to have arrived out of thin air at Southampton General Hospital ?
Have I missed something, does anyone know who this family are , they appear to have arrived out of thin air at Southampton General Hospital ? hatch
  • Score: 0

6:16am Wed 3 Sep 14

elvisimo says...

Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
Hmm practice what you preach
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]Hmm practice what you preach elvisimo
  • Score: 3

7:15am Wed 3 Sep 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
Kirsty666 wrote:
I'm pleased they have been released so they can return to their little boy. The main fact here police hospital and parents it's a lot of he said she said. All I hope now is that he is getting the medical care he needs that is not too harmful rather than parents arguing with hospital staff because it's not what they feel is best for their child any treatment needs to be best for the patient rather than it's in our budget to do this but not that so he can't have that.
Just to add that's why drug companies exist to make money rather than find a cure
No money in cures ,that the root of the problem.
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: I'm pleased they have been released so they can return to their little boy. The main fact here police hospital and parents it's a lot of he said she said. All I hope now is that he is getting the medical care he needs that is not too harmful rather than parents arguing with hospital staff because it's not what they feel is best for their child any treatment needs to be best for the patient rather than it's in our budget to do this but not that so he can't have that.[/p][/quote]Just to add that's why drug companies exist to make money rather than find a cure[/p][/quote]No money in cures ,that the root of the problem. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 1

8:22am Wed 3 Sep 14

solomum says...

espanuel wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
If you had followed the story you would know that the parents were told they could not question the doctors or a protection order would be placed on their child. This is a method of bullying by the hospital Dr. Is it any wonder they removed their child from the hospitals care?
[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.[/p][/quote]If you had followed the story you would know that the parents were told they could not question the doctors or a protection order would be placed on their child. This is a method of bullying by the hospital Dr. Is it any wonder they removed their child from the hospitals care? solomum
  • Score: 1

8:44am Wed 3 Sep 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
Please try not to be completely stupid. The Hospital and the Police are being blamed for this whole sorry mess, that was started by whom? You know nothing of the real circumstances surrounding this case, as I don't and most of the posters on here don't. In the fullness of time the facts of this case will be revealed. If you are wrong, I do hope you will come back here and admit your stupidity. Please try not to be so ignorant.
Yes at last a voice of reason .......
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]Please try not to be completely stupid. The Hospital and the Police are being blamed for this whole sorry mess, that was started by whom? You know nothing of the real circumstances surrounding this case, as I don't and most of the posters on here don't. In the fullness of time the facts of this case will be revealed. If you are wrong, I do hope you will come back here and admit your stupidity. Please try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]Yes at last a voice of reason ....... Lone Ranger.
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8:58am Wed 3 Sep 14

waggers5 says...

Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
They committed no crime? That infamous feeding pump they took with them: who did it belong to? Did they take it with the owner's permission? Now who's being ignorant?
[quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]They committed no crime? That infamous feeding pump they took with them: who did it belong to? Did they take it with the owner's permission? Now who's being ignorant? waggers5
  • Score: 2

9:03am Wed 3 Sep 14

ecuk268 says...

solomum wrote:
espanuel wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.
If you had followed the story you would know that the parents were told they could not question the doctors or a protection order would be placed on their child. This is a method of bullying by the hospital Dr. Is it any wonder they removed their child from the hospitals care?
If they were told that a protection order would be sought (and we only have their word for it) they could have contested it.

An Emergency Protection Order is quite a draconian measure and is normally only used in extreme circumstances.

There has to be a court hearing where the parents could put their case to a judge.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]The police took the advice of the medical profession and then followed it with an arrest warrant that taken out so the police could speak to them, IF they hadn't that is the police had they ignored the medical advice and saying it is no concern of ours and something happened to the child the police would still get knocked. The parents basically are at fault at the beginning for not leaving information of what they were going to do. They left it until they got to Spain. And I don't care if I get thumbs down, a lot of you are not looking at the problem in the first place logically.[/p][/quote]If you had followed the story you would know that the parents were told they could not question the doctors or a protection order would be placed on their child. This is a method of bullying by the hospital Dr. Is it any wonder they removed their child from the hospitals care?[/p][/quote]If they were told that a protection order would be sought (and we only have their word for it) they could have contested it. An Emergency Protection Order is quite a draconian measure and is normally only used in extreme circumstances. There has to be a court hearing where the parents could put their case to a judge. ecuk268
  • Score: 2

11:27am Wed 3 Sep 14

Lordcem says...

sentinal72 wrote:
Donald2000 wrote:
james rood wrote:
I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so!
the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq.
I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took!
Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed.

At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.
Your comments are equally ignorant and one sided,

Medics are not police and did not act as police; however a child in their care who was and is still unwell went missing from their care with no explanation.
The hospital informed police of concerns for the child's well-being, Hampshire police then took whatever action they felt appropriate at the time,
I'm sure that if the child had come to harm and nothing had been done you would be equally balanced in your view?
James Rood is either an ignorant man or he is pursuing a hidden agenda. The moment the parent took their child from the hospital means that the little boy is no longer under the hospital's care. Full stop!
[quote][p][bold]sentinal72[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donald2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james rood[/bold] wrote: I am sick of the hospital and the staff being blamed! they were concerned for the welfare of the child so rang the police, rightfully so! the parents took the child against advice and have not been back in touch with the specialists in Cheq. I'm sickened by all this and the support for the parents, how about the poor nurses who I'm sure are having thier knuckles wrapped due to the bad PR which is not their fault! any blame is with the parents and it the a Police for the actions they both took![/p][/quote]Your comments are profoundly ignorant and are of the same level of understanding that the hospital and police originally displayed. At the time of taking Asyha from hospital the parents were not wanted for anything by the police; they had committed no crime. Medics are not police. Try not to be so ignorant.[/p][/quote]Your comments are equally ignorant and one sided, Medics are not police and did not act as police; however a child in their care who was and is still unwell went missing from their care with no explanation. The hospital informed police of concerns for the child's well-being, Hampshire police then took whatever action they felt appropriate at the time, I'm sure that if the child had come to harm and nothing had been done you would be equally balanced in your view?[/p][/quote]James Rood is either an ignorant man or he is pursuing a hidden agenda. The moment the parent took their child from the hospital means that the little boy is no longer under the hospital's care. Full stop! Lordcem
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