School pulls up 80 students for failing to abide by strict uniform rules at Hamble Community Sports College

Pupil Molly Taylor in her school uniform

Pupil Molly Taylor in her school uniform

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EIGHTY pupils were in trouble on their first day at a Hampshire school for breaking uniform rules.

Teachers were posted at the gates of Hamble Community Sports College and pulled up children in the wrong clothing as part of a crackdown.

The school, in Satchell Lane, Hamble, which has nearly 1,000 pupils, said it was responding to concerns raised by parents that uniform standards had slipped last year.

Principal Gerry Halley-Gordon said the school sent letters in May and July warning parents of stricter enforcement and reiterating the rules.

Female pupils should wear a blue blazer with a pale blue shirt, a tie and optional jumper with either a navy blue skirt no higher than 10cm above the knee or loose-fitting straight leg or bootcut black trousers.

Boys wear a similar uniform and should again not wear tight-fitting trousers or jeans.

Shoes should not be boots, canvas shoes, high heels or trainers.

But 80 pupils were still picked up, the majority for wearing canvas-type shoes and tight trousers.

Catherine Wells’ daughter Molly Taylor, 14, was one of those pulled up at the school gates who went home to try and correct her uniform – the Year 10 pupil was told her trousers were too tight and her shoes unsuitable.

But Catherine, 44, of Westfield Close, Hamble insisted she had followed the rules.

She said her daughter’s shape made it difficult to find trousers that were not tight-fitting and argued they were not skin tight.

She said that the shoes were made of leather-like material not canvas.

She said Molly was missing out on lessons in a very important year, adding: “We went by the list – if there’s going to be this much confusion going back on their first day they should use a certain shop.”

Mrs Halley-Gordon said pupils had “absolutely not” been sent home, but the policy was pupils could change into the correct uniform if they had it or if they had something suitable at home could go home to change, though only a “minority” had.

Those that could do neither were, after a meeting with teachers, able to return to lessons.

Long-term, Mrs Halley-Gordon said the school would work with parents and pupils would be able to wear the uniform they had for a month.

“I have worked hard to strike a balance between encouraging students to look smart and not setting one style of trousers or shoes,” she said.

“We’re far more flexible than most schools because I take into account the location and financial circumstances.”

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8:59am Thu 4 Sep 14

elvisimo says...

good
good elvisimo
  • Score: 25

9:12am Thu 4 Sep 14

Jamie Hankins says...

Pointless. What shoes they are wearing will not improve how much they learn.
Pointless. What shoes they are wearing will not improve how much they learn. Jamie Hankins
  • Score: -11

9:36am Thu 4 Sep 14

The Music Man says...

Good.
Good. The Music Man
  • Score: 27

9:36am Thu 4 Sep 14

nanny saint says...

World gone crazy......how does what you wear affect their work?.... kids in 3rd world countries still learn!
World gone crazy......how does what you wear affect their work?.... kids in 3rd world countries still learn! nanny saint
  • Score: -1

9:39am Thu 4 Sep 14

sarahrobinson/cook says...

My daughter was sent home from chamberlayne yesterday because a had a thin white line on her sole! Yet I have been told this morning by her that another child who was sent home also has today been allowed to wear their same shoes...called the school to find out why my daughter has been told she's not allowed these shoes but another child in her yr is and I was told basically it's not my business. .well sorry if you
My daughter was sent home from chamberlayne yesterday because a had a thin white line on her sole! Yet I have been told this morning by her that another child who was sent home also has today been allowed to wear their same shoes...called the school to find out why my daughter has been told she's not allowed these shoes but another child in her yr is and I was told basically it's not my business. .well sorry if you sarahrobinson/cook
  • Score: -40

9:40am Thu 4 Sep 14

sarahrobinson/cook says...

If they can let 1 child with the same shoe all children should be allowed...i mean she lost hours of school yesterday for a thin white line on a sole ...absolutely absurd
If they can let 1 child with the same shoe all children should be allowed...i mean she lost hours of school yesterday for a thin white line on a sole ...absolutely absurd sarahrobinson/cook
  • Score: -32

9:48am Thu 4 Sep 14

WotMeWorry says...

Jamie Hankins wrote:
Pointless. What shoes they are wearing will not improve how much they learn.
Not wishing to be controversial, but just putting it out there for discussion; everyday on the DE site posters complain about the lack of discipline in kids today, school uniform is all about discipline and playing by the rules which is surely what posters are advocating. I agree that wearing uniform will not imporve learning but will surely help to address the above. Not wishing to harp back to my days at school but everyone wearing a standard uniform also helped to remove problems around those kids whose family had money, hence more fashionable attire and those who didn't - this has a potential to have a real affect on children. To be fair to the Head, there is a mention of working with those families with financial issues.
[quote][p][bold]Jamie Hankins[/bold] wrote: Pointless. What shoes they are wearing will not improve how much they learn.[/p][/quote]Not wishing to be controversial, but just putting it out there for discussion; everyday on the DE site posters complain about the lack of discipline in kids today, school uniform is all about discipline and playing by the rules which is surely what posters are advocating. I agree that wearing uniform will not imporve learning but will surely help to address the above. Not wishing to harp back to my days at school but everyone wearing a standard uniform also helped to remove problems around those kids whose family had money, hence more fashionable attire and those who didn't - this has a potential to have a real affect on children. To be fair to the Head, there is a mention of working with those families with financial issues. WotMeWorry
  • Score: 144

9:50am Thu 4 Sep 14

sotonbusdriver says...

A uniform code is a uniform code....
After all you wouldn't expect to see a solider in the Army, wearing a purple bandana on his head, because he liked it...
You go to see the Bank Manager, you wouldn't expect to see him dressed in oily garage overalls.
Uniforms make sure that people learn to comply with rules, this helps reinforce acceptable behaviour patterns.
Uniform in schools has been allowed to slip. When I was at school back in the 70's the enforcement was strict and regular checks were made, with further observations in classes, to stop pupils meeting the uniform code, only to change something when going on into classes during the day.
I expect those that are complaining have little discipline with their children at home... Where the children decided what they wear, what they watch on tv, what they eat for dinner.... Parents need to toughen up and take the responsibility of being a parent more serious..
Yes I am a parent, of a well behaved, educated and well adjusted teenager, that doesn't rebel, respects her home, and her parents alike...
A uniform code is a uniform code.... After all you wouldn't expect to see a solider in the Army, wearing a purple bandana on his head, because he liked it... You go to see the Bank Manager, you wouldn't expect to see him dressed in oily garage overalls. Uniforms make sure that people learn to comply with rules, this helps reinforce acceptable behaviour patterns. Uniform in schools has been allowed to slip. When I was at school back in the 70's the enforcement was strict and regular checks were made, with further observations in classes, to stop pupils meeting the uniform code, only to change something when going on into classes during the day. I expect those that are complaining have little discipline with their children at home... Where the children decided what they wear, what they watch on tv, what they eat for dinner.... Parents need to toughen up and take the responsibility of being a parent more serious.. Yes I am a parent, of a well behaved, educated and well adjusted teenager, that doesn't rebel, respects her home, and her parents alike... sotonbusdriver
  • Score: 127

9:58am Thu 4 Sep 14

Bitterne Roger says...

Right behind you on this, in principle, Principal.

Some of the rules are subjective. Like trousers not to be "loose-fitting". But "straight-leg or boot-cut" seems unambiguous.

I can't determine very much from viewing the photo on my phone, but, from the outline of the trousers, they are clearly not boot-cut. Nor are they loose-fitting. And, not that I know much about girls' attire, they are neither straight-cut. Rather, they are tapering, or drainpipe, or fitted, or tight - whatever the appropriate terminology is.

I suppose, since the girl's shape
makes it "difficult to find trousers
that were not tight-fitting", she may have to resort to boys' trousers.

I wonder whether it would prove quote so difficult to find the desired prom dress, for example. It's usually the case that, where there's a will, there's a way.
Right behind you on this, in principle, Principal. Some of the rules are subjective. Like trousers not to be "loose-fitting". But "straight-leg or boot-cut" seems unambiguous. I can't determine very much from viewing the photo on my phone, but, from the outline of the trousers, they are clearly not boot-cut. Nor are they loose-fitting. And, not that I know much about girls' attire, they are neither straight-cut. Rather, they are tapering, or drainpipe, or fitted, or tight - whatever the appropriate terminology is. I suppose, since the girl's shape makes it "difficult to find trousers that were not tight-fitting", she may have to resort to boys' trousers. I wonder whether it would prove quote so difficult to find the desired prom dress, for example. It's usually the case that, where there's a will, there's a way. Bitterne Roger
  • Score: 50

10:07am Thu 4 Sep 14

forest hump says...

sotonbusdriver wrote:
A uniform code is a uniform code....
After all you wouldn't expect to see a solider in the Army, wearing a purple bandana on his head, because he liked it...
You go to see the Bank Manager, you wouldn't expect to see him dressed in oily garage overalls.
Uniforms make sure that people learn to comply with rules, this helps reinforce acceptable behaviour patterns.
Uniform in schools has been allowed to slip. When I was at school back in the 70's the enforcement was strict and regular checks were made, with further observations in classes, to stop pupils meeting the uniform code, only to change something when going on into classes during the day.
I expect those that are complaining have little discipline with their children at home... Where the children decided what they wear, what they watch on tv, what they eat for dinner.... Parents need to toughen up and take the responsibility of being a parent more serious..
Yes I am a parent, of a well behaved, educated and well adjusted teenager, that doesn't rebel, respects her home, and her parents alike...
Very good comment. I like the bit about parents' toughening up. We are breeding 3rd generation layabouts. (I will not start about single mothers' on benefits to get housing)
[quote][p][bold]sotonbusdriver[/bold] wrote: A uniform code is a uniform code.... After all you wouldn't expect to see a solider in the Army, wearing a purple bandana on his head, because he liked it... You go to see the Bank Manager, you wouldn't expect to see him dressed in oily garage overalls. Uniforms make sure that people learn to comply with rules, this helps reinforce acceptable behaviour patterns. Uniform in schools has been allowed to slip. When I was at school back in the 70's the enforcement was strict and regular checks were made, with further observations in classes, to stop pupils meeting the uniform code, only to change something when going on into classes during the day. I expect those that are complaining have little discipline with their children at home... Where the children decided what they wear, what they watch on tv, what they eat for dinner.... Parents need to toughen up and take the responsibility of being a parent more serious.. Yes I am a parent, of a well behaved, educated and well adjusted teenager, that doesn't rebel, respects her home, and her parents alike...[/p][/quote]Very good comment. I like the bit about parents' toughening up. We are breeding 3rd generation layabouts. (I will not start about single mothers' on benefits to get housing) forest hump
  • Score: 48

10:26am Thu 4 Sep 14

mrblunt says...

Parents are fully aware of a schools dress code and its up to them to ensure their children go to school properly dressed. Most of the supermarkets sell all most all of the uniform of any school, good quality at reasonable prices and I suspect that the 'non school' clothes and shoes cost more.
Parents are fully aware of a schools dress code and its up to them to ensure their children go to school properly dressed. Most of the supermarkets sell all most all of the uniform of any school, good quality at reasonable prices and I suspect that the 'non school' clothes and shoes cost more. mrblunt
  • Score: 48

10:34am Thu 4 Sep 14

shesaint says...

Isn't it also about teaching them that the rules apply to everyone and that they can't pick and choose the ones they want to follow and the ones they don't? I worked in a school where the uniform included black shoes. You could probably get away with black trainers. One girls parents said they could only afford one pair of shoes, so bought designer, bright orange trainers, and then complained when she want allowed to wear them. What were the parents teaching that child?
Isn't it also about teaching them that the rules apply to everyone and that they can't pick and choose the ones they want to follow and the ones they don't? I worked in a school where the uniform included black shoes. You could probably get away with black trainers. One girls parents said they could only afford one pair of shoes, so bought designer, bright orange trainers, and then complained when she want allowed to wear them. What were the parents teaching that child? shesaint
  • Score: 49

10:46am Thu 4 Sep 14

Outside of the Box says...

The price of school embroidered logo'd uniform is disgusting, many schools play on this and charge over the odds for the logo'd uniform, personally I think schools should not enforce any dress code/uniform full stop.

Yes the supermarkets sell cheap uniforms however, I have seen pupils picked on and bullied because they don't have the schools logo on their uniforms, which is wrong. Tesco offer this embroidery if your school is registered http://www.clothinga
ttesco.com/icat/embs
choolwear

Let the pupils wear suitable attire as deemed by their parents to school, after all they're students not soldiers.
The price of school embroidered logo'd uniform is disgusting, many schools play on this and charge over the odds for the logo'd uniform, personally I think schools should not enforce any dress code/uniform full stop. Yes the supermarkets sell cheap uniforms however, I have seen pupils picked on and bullied because they don't have the schools logo on their uniforms, which is wrong. Tesco offer this embroidery if your school is registered http://www.clothinga ttesco.com/icat/embs choolwear Let the pupils wear suitable attire as deemed by their parents to school, after all they're students not soldiers. Outside of the Box
  • Score: -56

10:59am Thu 4 Sep 14

now in the north says...

Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all.
Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them.
This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education.
They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation.
The same is not always the best.
Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best. now in the north
  • Score: -38

10:59am Thu 4 Sep 14

jazzi says...

I have 2 children at senior school this year, I have struggled to get their uniforms. They do not have PE kits as yet as I just cannot afford them. Hopefully they wont have PE on the same day and I can buy 1 kit and they can share, until I can get them the correct kits. They will suffer detentions because of not bringing a kit into school, but what can I do. I will not let my family go without eating for a PE kit worn once a week for an hour
I have 2 children at senior school this year, I have struggled to get their uniforms. They do not have PE kits as yet as I just cannot afford them. Hopefully they wont have PE on the same day and I can buy 1 kit and they can share, until I can get them the correct kits. They will suffer detentions because of not bringing a kit into school, but what can I do. I will not let my family go without eating for a PE kit worn once a week for an hour jazzi
  • Score: 22

11:03am Thu 4 Sep 14

jazzi says...

logo t shirt £9.99 non logo £2.00
PE shirt £14.99 non logo £2.00
Sweatshirt / Cardigan £16.99 non logo £6.00
PE hoodie @15.99 non logo £4.00
Please justify these extortionate differences and plz make the badges available so we can sew them on oursleves !!!
logo t shirt £9.99 non logo £2.00 PE shirt £14.99 non logo £2.00 Sweatshirt / Cardigan £16.99 non logo £6.00 PE hoodie @15.99 non logo £4.00 Please justify these extortionate differences and plz make the badges available so we can sew them on oursleves !!! jazzi
  • Score: 66

11:44am Thu 4 Sep 14

WotMeWorry says...

now in the north wrote:
Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.
Interesting thoughts, I don't agree with them but it would be an interesting discussion topic. Not sure anyone is suggesting children are having individuality forced out of them meaning that they won't achieve. Don't they wear Uniforms at Eton and Harrow?
[quote][p][bold]now in the north[/bold] wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.[/p][/quote]Interesting thoughts, I don't agree with them but it would be an interesting discussion topic. Not sure anyone is suggesting children are having individuality forced out of them meaning that they won't achieve. Don't they wear Uniforms at Eton and Harrow? WotMeWorry
  • Score: 17

11:50am Thu 4 Sep 14

WotMeWorry says...

now in the north wrote:
Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.
Interesting thoughts, I don't agree with them but it would make for an interesting discussion. Not sure anyone is suggesting that kids are having their individuality forced out of them - ironically if there was no uniform code it is likely they'd all wear pretty much the same thing anyway (!) Also, do they not wear uniforms at Eton and Harrow?
[quote][p][bold]now in the north[/bold] wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.[/p][/quote]Interesting thoughts, I don't agree with them but it would make for an interesting discussion. Not sure anyone is suggesting that kids are having their individuality forced out of them - ironically if there was no uniform code it is likely they'd all wear pretty much the same thing anyway (!) Also, do they not wear uniforms at Eton and Harrow? WotMeWorry
  • Score: 2

11:51am Thu 4 Sep 14

WotMeWorry says...

WotMeWorry wrote:
now in the north wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.
Interesting thoughts, I don't agree with them but it would make for an interesting discussion. Not sure anyone is suggesting that kids are having their individuality forced out of them - ironically if there was no uniform code it is likely they'd all wear pretty much the same thing anyway (!) Also, do they not wear uniforms at Eton and Harrow?
oops not sure why that came up twice...
[quote][p][bold]WotMeWorry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]now in the north[/bold] wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.[/p][/quote]Interesting thoughts, I don't agree with them but it would make for an interesting discussion. Not sure anyone is suggesting that kids are having their individuality forced out of them - ironically if there was no uniform code it is likely they'd all wear pretty much the same thing anyway (!) Also, do they not wear uniforms at Eton and Harrow?[/p][/quote]oops not sure why that came up twice... WotMeWorry
  • Score: 1

11:54am Thu 4 Sep 14

Mr E says...

It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.
It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority. Mr E
  • Score: 29

11:56am Thu 4 Sep 14

KSO16R says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
The price of school embroidered logo'd uniform is disgusting, many schools play on this and charge over the odds for the logo'd uniform, personally I think schools should not enforce any dress code/uniform full stop.

Yes the supermarkets sell cheap uniforms however, I have seen pupils picked on and bullied because they don't have the schools logo on their uniforms, which is wrong. Tesco offer this embroidery if your school is registered http://www.clothinga

ttesco.com/icat/embs

choolwear

Let the pupils wear suitable attire as deemed by their parents to school, after all they're students not soldiers.
This poster tried to condone rape in a previous post a few months ago
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: The price of school embroidered logo'd uniform is disgusting, many schools play on this and charge over the odds for the logo'd uniform, personally I think schools should not enforce any dress code/uniform full stop. Yes the supermarkets sell cheap uniforms however, I have seen pupils picked on and bullied because they don't have the schools logo on their uniforms, which is wrong. Tesco offer this embroidery if your school is registered http://www.clothinga ttesco.com/icat/embs choolwear Let the pupils wear suitable attire as deemed by their parents to school, after all they're students not soldiers.[/p][/quote]This poster tried to condone rape in a previous post a few months ago KSO16R
  • Score: -9

12:06pm Thu 4 Sep 14

elvisimo says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
The price of school embroidered logo'd uniform is disgusting, many schools play on this and charge over the odds for the logo'd uniform, personally I think schools should not enforce any dress code/uniform full stop.

Yes the supermarkets sell cheap uniforms however, I have seen pupils picked on and bullied because they don't have the schools logo on their uniforms, which is wrong. Tesco offer this embroidery if your school is registered http://www.clothinga

ttesco.com/icat/embs

choolwear

Let the pupils wear suitable attire as deemed by their parents to school, after all they're students not soldiers.
yes because I bet there are some real choice parents out there....
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: The price of school embroidered logo'd uniform is disgusting, many schools play on this and charge over the odds for the logo'd uniform, personally I think schools should not enforce any dress code/uniform full stop. Yes the supermarkets sell cheap uniforms however, I have seen pupils picked on and bullied because they don't have the schools logo on their uniforms, which is wrong. Tesco offer this embroidery if your school is registered http://www.clothinga ttesco.com/icat/embs choolwear Let the pupils wear suitable attire as deemed by their parents to school, after all they're students not soldiers.[/p][/quote]yes because I bet there are some real choice parents out there.... elvisimo
  • Score: 7

12:15pm Thu 4 Sep 14

good-gosh says...

Mr E wrote:
It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.
It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority.
[quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.[/p][/quote]It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority. good-gosh
  • Score: 24

12:42pm Thu 4 Sep 14

rhonaann says...

good-gosh wrote:
Mr E wrote:
It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.
It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority.
i disagree entirely, I think the gouvernment impose too many strict guidelines for attendance etc, however whenever there is a problem or incident schools are quick to remove pupils off premises! if you keep your child off sick they question why, but then imopse a 48hr no return policy that almost doubles in most cases then time children take off school. Holiday absence is another point, the gvt penalise via penalty, however the schools can take industrial action and close with no penalties imposed??? the system does NOT work and needs a drastic reform. Holiday penalties are disguised as reasons for keeping bums on seats in term time, however is really about potential revenue for the gvt from an alreasy over taxed and squeezed nation!!!
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.[/p][/quote]It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority.[/p][/quote]i disagree entirely, I think the gouvernment impose too many strict guidelines for attendance etc, however whenever there is a problem or incident schools are quick to remove pupils off premises! if you keep your child off sick they question why, but then imopse a 48hr no return policy that almost doubles in most cases then time children take off school. Holiday absence is another point, the gvt penalise via penalty, however the schools can take industrial action and close with no penalties imposed??? the system does NOT work and needs a drastic reform. Holiday penalties are disguised as reasons for keeping bums on seats in term time, however is really about potential revenue for the gvt from an alreasy over taxed and squeezed nation!!! rhonaann
  • Score: -21

12:53pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Shoong says...

The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..?
The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..? Shoong
  • Score: 20

12:55pm Thu 4 Sep 14

WotMeWorry says...

rhonaann wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Mr E wrote: It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.
It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority.
i disagree entirely, I think the gouvernment impose too many strict guidelines for attendance etc, however whenever there is a problem or incident schools are quick to remove pupils off premises! if you keep your child off sick they question why, but then imopse a 48hr no return policy that almost doubles in most cases then time children take off school. Holiday absence is another point, the gvt penalise via penalty, however the schools can take industrial action and close with no penalties imposed??? the system does NOT work and needs a drastic reform. Holiday penalties are disguised as reasons for keeping bums on seats in term time, however is really about potential revenue for the gvt from an alreasy over taxed and squeezed nation!!!
Not sure I entirely understand the post. Just to pick out a couple of points, "...too many strict guidelines..." could you explain, I thought rules around school attendance hadn't changed much since I was there. A 48 hour no return from sickness relates generally to D&V, the standard guidelines being that there should be no return to work or school within this period as the infection can spread - a good idea I believe. Holiday absence is a bit of a moot point but when I was at school this happened rarely, I do understand that it costs more during holidays but I guess when we were young we didn't go away as most people do now. Having said that, I don't think holiday fines are to "keep bums on seats" but to persuade parents that their children's education is of paramount importance. Industrial action is irrelevant to the subject of school uniforms, discipline etc.
[quote][p][bold]rhonaann[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.[/p][/quote]It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority.[/p][/quote]i disagree entirely, I think the gouvernment impose too many strict guidelines for attendance etc, however whenever there is a problem or incident schools are quick to remove pupils off premises! if you keep your child off sick they question why, but then imopse a 48hr no return policy that almost doubles in most cases then time children take off school. Holiday absence is another point, the gvt penalise via penalty, however the schools can take industrial action and close with no penalties imposed??? the system does NOT work and needs a drastic reform. Holiday penalties are disguised as reasons for keeping bums on seats in term time, however is really about potential revenue for the gvt from an alreasy over taxed and squeezed nation!!![/p][/quote]Not sure I entirely understand the post. Just to pick out a couple of points, "...too many strict guidelines..." could you explain, I thought rules around school attendance hadn't changed much since I was there. A 48 hour no return from sickness relates generally to D&V, the standard guidelines being that there should be no return to work or school within this period as the infection can spread - a good idea I believe. Holiday absence is a bit of a moot point but when I was at school this happened rarely, I do understand that it costs more during holidays but I guess when we were young we didn't go away as most people do now. Having said that, I don't think holiday fines are to "keep bums on seats" but to persuade parents that their children's education is of paramount importance. Industrial action is irrelevant to the subject of school uniforms, discipline etc. WotMeWorry
  • Score: 5

12:59pm Thu 4 Sep 14

good-gosh says...

rhonaann wrote:
good-gosh wrote:
Mr E wrote:
It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.
It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority.
i disagree entirely, I think the gouvernment impose too many strict guidelines for attendance etc, however whenever there is a problem or incident schools are quick to remove pupils off premises! if you keep your child off sick they question why, but then imopse a 48hr no return policy that almost doubles in most cases then time children take off school. Holiday absence is another point, the gvt penalise via penalty, however the schools can take industrial action and close with no penalties imposed??? the system does NOT work and needs a drastic reform. Holiday penalties are disguised as reasons for keeping bums on seats in term time, however is really about potential revenue for the gvt from an alreasy over taxed and squeezed nation!!!
Everything works perfectly easily when everyone follows a few simple rules. Most seem to manage it without a hitch. State organisations require conformity and none of it is 'off the wall' or unachievable
[quote][p][bold]rhonaann[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr E[/bold] wrote: It sounds like 80 children have learned a valuable lesson about abuse of authority.[/p][/quote]It's not the children's fault. This is all about a few bolshie parents clinging to their past teenage years of revelling in petty anarchy for attention – and now using their children to irritate authority.[/p][/quote]i disagree entirely, I think the gouvernment impose too many strict guidelines for attendance etc, however whenever there is a problem or incident schools are quick to remove pupils off premises! if you keep your child off sick they question why, but then imopse a 48hr no return policy that almost doubles in most cases then time children take off school. Holiday absence is another point, the gvt penalise via penalty, however the schools can take industrial action and close with no penalties imposed??? the system does NOT work and needs a drastic reform. Holiday penalties are disguised as reasons for keeping bums on seats in term time, however is really about potential revenue for the gvt from an alreasy over taxed and squeezed nation!!![/p][/quote]Everything works perfectly easily when everyone follows a few simple rules. Most seem to manage it without a hitch. State organisations require conformity and none of it is 'off the wall' or unachievable good-gosh
  • Score: 15

1:44pm Thu 4 Sep 14

CivicCentered says...

now in the north wrote:
Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.
Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there...
[quote][p][bold]now in the north[/bold] wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.[/p][/quote]Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there... CivicCentered
  • Score: -4

2:07pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Tikkabella says...

The school has slipped significantly in the past few years, and the ousted report proved that,if they put as much effort into teaching our children as they do on uniform we would all have budding geniuses on our hands!
The school has slipped significantly in the past few years, and the ousted report proved that,if they put as much effort into teaching our children as they do on uniform we would all have budding geniuses on our hands! Tikkabella
  • Score: 12

2:27pm Thu 4 Sep 14

wwozzer says...

Oh this is priceless! Halley-Gordon has got a lot more to worry about than minor uniform infringements.

This schools performance is abysmal and it's only a matter of time before its in special measures. If they enforced their behaviour policy just half as much as they enforce their uniform policy maybe the place wouldn't he run by 13 year old thugs who make a lot of the other pupils lives a complete misery.

The head sticks her head up her backside and pretends it's not happening for fear of too many exclusions looking bad to ofsted.

The school is a disgrace and thank god my son is now being taught elsewhere.
Oh this is priceless! Halley-Gordon has got a lot more to worry about than minor uniform infringements. This schools performance is abysmal and it's only a matter of time before its in special measures. If they enforced their behaviour policy just half as much as they enforce their uniform policy maybe the place wouldn't he run by 13 year old thugs who make a lot of the other pupils lives a complete misery. The head sticks her head up her backside and pretends it's not happening for fear of too many exclusions looking bad to ofsted. The school is a disgrace and thank god my son is now being taught elsewhere. wwozzer
  • Score: 21

2:27pm Thu 4 Sep 14

lastminmoran says...

UP HERE in the north our local school takes into account some parents are struggling to buy all this new stuff..so when thing are outgrown the school secretary pass it on, to my knowledge nobody is to proud to use this sensible service,as many people are in the same boat. i agree with the uniform after all that late 70s hippie mantra,it soon went into trainers being knicked etc. in the 80s. BUT when has a little rebel hurt their chance of learning by wearing a big knot in the tie, top button undone skirts getting shorter by the week.kids want to look the same uniform or not..but being well rounded people should always be no1.
UP HERE in the north our local school takes into account some parents are struggling to buy all this new stuff..so when thing are outgrown the school secretary pass it on, to my knowledge nobody is to proud to use this sensible service,as many people are in the same boat. i agree with the uniform after all that late 70s hippie mantra,it soon went into trainers being knicked etc. in the 80s. BUT when has a little rebel hurt their chance of learning by wearing a big knot in the tie, top button undone skirts getting shorter by the week.kids want to look the same uniform or not..but being well rounded people should always be no1. lastminmoran
  • Score: 5

3:13pm Thu 4 Sep 14

eurogordi says...

Uniform has always been a contentious issue, but I do feel that some schools today enforce expensive uniforms that can only be purchased from designated suppliers. What happened to the old sew-on school badges that could be transferred from one blazer to another? Everything has to be embroidered directly on to the garment these days, or so it seems. Providing the pupils look smart and follow school colours, while avoiding any fashion extremes, does it really matter what brand they are wearing?
Uniform has always been a contentious issue, but I do feel that some schools today enforce expensive uniforms that can only be purchased from designated suppliers. What happened to the old sew-on school badges that could be transferred from one blazer to another? Everything has to be embroidered directly on to the garment these days, or so it seems. Providing the pupils look smart and follow school colours, while avoiding any fashion extremes, does it really matter what brand they are wearing? eurogordi
  • Score: 13

4:19pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Big Mac says...

Maybe spend less time sat in front of a computer and go and earn a bit more or sell somethings – like old computer games, cds etc – and the cost of an approved uniform will be within reach.
Maybe spend less time sat in front of a computer and go and earn a bit more or sell somethings – like old computer games, cds etc – and the cost of an approved uniform will be within reach. Big Mac
  • Score: 0

4:33pm Thu 4 Sep 14

mickey01 says...

Whats the problem with these parents !!!!!!!!! why have these kids got to wear trainers/ named brands get down to shoe zone and buy SHOES teach the kids about rules in life and the fact that education and abiding by rules is more important than a brand name and those parents who moan that they have no money to buy another pair would go straight out to by their little darlings a new phone/i pad if they wanted one without a second thought so get over yourselves
Whats the problem with these parents !!!!!!!!! why have these kids got to wear trainers/ named brands get down to shoe zone and buy SHOES teach the kids about rules in life and the fact that education and abiding by rules is more important than a brand name and those parents who moan that they have no money to buy another pair would go straight out to by their little darlings a new phone/i pad if they wanted one without a second thought so get over yourselves mickey01
  • Score: 11

4:34pm Thu 4 Sep 14

juicy18 says...

As the parent of a year 9 student at Hamble, I would like to add that at no time did the school send home specific letters to inform parents that the uniform policy had been changed. Uniform letters are issued routinely at the end of each term to remind parents of the regulations, but the most recent ones did not highlight that they had introduced a ban on canvas shoes which have been acceptable footwear for at least the last 2 years. What they did was to insert the words 'no canvas shoes' in a set of existing brackets containing other band footwear. It would have been far more helpful for the school to highlight this change in particular because of the large number of students that attend the school wearing this type of shoe. As I am sure most parents would agree schools issue a ridiculous amount of letters, and unfortunately when you receive the same letter again and again without a covering message as to why it is being sent again you don't go to any great lengths to read it. Other than what is now "unacceptable footwear" my child is well presented in the correct uniform, organised, polite and an intelligent person coming from a respectable background who achieves very high grades in all subjects. We are in the fortunate position that if we have to we will purchase the correct footwear, however the way the school approached the problem was completely unacceptable and very heavy handed on the first day back and for those less fortunate parents an added stress I am sure they would rather not have to cope with. The consequence of the schools reaction to my child's footwear was a very upset child and stressed parents which was something we could have certainly done without!
As the parent of a year 9 student at Hamble, I would like to add that at no time did the school send home specific letters to inform parents that the uniform policy had been changed. Uniform letters are issued routinely at the end of each term to remind parents of the regulations, but the most recent ones did not highlight that they had introduced a ban on canvas shoes which have been acceptable footwear for at least the last 2 years. What they did was to insert the words 'no canvas shoes' in a set of existing brackets containing other band footwear. It would have been far more helpful for the school to highlight this change in particular because of the large number of students that attend the school wearing this type of shoe. As I am sure most parents would agree schools issue a ridiculous amount of letters, and unfortunately when you receive the same letter again and again without a covering message as to why it is being sent again you don't go to any great lengths to read it. Other than what is now "unacceptable footwear" my child is well presented in the correct uniform, organised, polite and an intelligent person coming from a respectable background who achieves very high grades in all subjects. We are in the fortunate position that if we have to we will purchase the correct footwear, however the way the school approached the problem was completely unacceptable and very heavy handed on the first day back and for those less fortunate parents an added stress I am sure they would rather not have to cope with. The consequence of the schools reaction to my child's footwear was a very upset child and stressed parents which was something we could have certainly done without! juicy18
  • Score: 13

4:42pm Thu 4 Sep 14

forest hump says...

CivicCentered wrote:
now in the north wrote:
Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.
Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there...
It is wrong that schools force AGW down kids' throats'. it is unproven and until proven should stay off the agenda. Environmental responsibility is OK but do not force the unproven cr@p.
[quote][p][bold]CivicCentered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]now in the north[/bold] wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.[/p][/quote]Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there...[/p][/quote]It is wrong that schools force AGW down kids' throats'. it is unproven and until proven should stay off the agenda. Environmental responsibility is OK but do not force the unproven cr@p. forest hump
  • Score: 4

4:54pm Thu 4 Sep 14

CivicCentered says...

forest hump wrote:
CivicCentered wrote:
now in the north wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.
Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there...
It is wrong that schools force AGW down kids' throats'. it is unproven and until proven should stay off the agenda. Environmental responsibility is OK but do not force the unproven cr@p.
"there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases. No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view,"

But yeah, crack on with your nonsense....
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CivicCentered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]now in the north[/bold] wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.[/p][/quote]Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there...[/p][/quote]It is wrong that schools force AGW down kids' throats'. it is unproven and until proven should stay off the agenda. Environmental responsibility is OK but do not force the unproven cr@p.[/p][/quote]"there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases. No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view," But yeah, crack on with your nonsense.... CivicCentered
  • Score: -1

4:57pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Hiyafive says...

wwozzer wrote:
Oh this is priceless! Halley-Gordon has got a lot more to worry about than minor uniform infringements.

This schools performance is abysmal and it's only a matter of time before its in special measures. If they enforced their behaviour policy just half as much as they enforce their uniform policy maybe the place wouldn't he run by 13 year old thugs who make a lot of the other pupils lives a complete misery.

The head sticks her head up her backside and pretends it's not happening for fear of too many exclusions looking bad to ofsted.

The school is a disgrace and thank god my son is now being taught elsewhere.
Thought this story was a joke! Head teacher should be more concerned about the terrible GCSE results that her pupils got. You Halley Gordon have let a vast number of students down even with the basic subjects. Go have a look at the website - shocking statistics. Now compare it to Brookfield Community College! Special measures should be called for. Stupid woman.
[quote][p][bold]wwozzer[/bold] wrote: Oh this is priceless! Halley-Gordon has got a lot more to worry about than minor uniform infringements. This schools performance is abysmal and it's only a matter of time before its in special measures. If they enforced their behaviour policy just half as much as they enforce their uniform policy maybe the place wouldn't he run by 13 year old thugs who make a lot of the other pupils lives a complete misery. The head sticks her head up her backside and pretends it's not happening for fear of too many exclusions looking bad to ofsted. The school is a disgrace and thank god my son is now being taught elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Thought this story was a joke! Head teacher should be more concerned about the terrible GCSE results that her pupils got. You Halley Gordon have let a vast number of students down even with the basic subjects. Go have a look at the website - shocking statistics. Now compare it to Brookfield Community College! Special measures should be called for. Stupid woman. Hiyafive
  • Score: 3

5:28pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Mary80 says...

Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear
Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear Mary80
  • Score: 5

5:37pm Thu 4 Sep 14

enidx says...

I'm sorry but I have absolutely no sympathy with these parents. I have two school age children and have managed to fit them both out with the correct uniform for both schools without any problems.

Since when have canvas shoes formed any part of a school uniform ?? Just because children gave "got away" with it, doesn't mean it's right.

Parents need to teach their children to fit into society because society is not going to bend for their over indulged little darlings.

Bring back national service..
I'm sorry but I have absolutely no sympathy with these parents. I have two school age children and have managed to fit them both out with the correct uniform for both schools without any problems. Since when have canvas shoes formed any part of a school uniform ?? Just because children gave "got away" with it, doesn't mean it's right. Parents need to teach their children to fit into society because society is not going to bend for their over indulged little darlings. Bring back national service.. enidx
  • Score: 13

5:41pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Nikz78 says...

Whilst I agree with some comments I strongly disagree with others , a comment made about single mums on benefits which I think is a little harsh! Wayward adults reliving there school years!!

I agree there should be uniform (reasonably priced) but also think children should not have there individuality taken away,

Come on this is a state school with a head teacher that came from a private school hardly surprising really
She employs uniform police....
Just let the kids learn as long as there shoes are black and uniforms smart what's the problem?
The head teacher of this school had more concerns for uniform than education that speaks volumes in the recent ofsted reports, this school if not picked up will fall to special measures.. Which isn't a bad thing Infact it would get the help needed to raise grades, maybe teachers will be taken off of uniform watch and back to teaching in the class rooms.

This is also a head teacher that told me you cannot be successful with tattoos and piercings as my eldest daughter had been put in isolation for having a very small nose stud in...

From a very successful busy woman with many tattoos and piercing :)
Whilst I agree with some comments I strongly disagree with others , a comment made about single mums on benefits which I think is a little harsh! Wayward adults reliving there school years!! I agree there should be uniform (reasonably priced) but also think children should not have there individuality taken away, Come on this is a state school with a head teacher that came from a private school hardly surprising really She employs uniform police.... Just let the kids learn as long as there shoes are black and uniforms smart what's the problem? The head teacher of this school had more concerns for uniform than education that speaks volumes in the recent ofsted reports, this school if not picked up will fall to special measures.. Which isn't a bad thing Infact it would get the help needed to raise grades, maybe teachers will be taken off of uniform watch and back to teaching in the class rooms. This is also a head teacher that told me you cannot be successful with tattoos and piercings as my eldest daughter had been put in isolation for having a very small nose stud in... From a very successful busy woman with many tattoos and piercing :) Nikz78
  • Score: 1

5:53pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Bexybow87 says...

Uniforms are not expensive!! Many schools are quite happy to allow children to have non logo too. Marks and spencer sell two polo shirts for £5, two trousers for £10 and a jumper for £4.. Not exactly breaking the bank!! I will never allow my child to dictate to me what they wear to school, regardless of what's in 'fashion'!!
Uniforms are not expensive!! Many schools are quite happy to allow children to have non logo too. Marks and spencer sell two polo shirts for £5, two trousers for £10 and a jumper for £4.. Not exactly breaking the bank!! I will never allow my child to dictate to me what they wear to school, regardless of what's in 'fashion'!! Bexybow87
  • Score: 9

6:22pm Thu 4 Sep 14

susie59 says...

Think the headteacher should be ashamed of herself for lying about pupils not being sent home, my granddaughter can name some of those sent home, they weren't given a choice either. Also my daughter went into the school to explain why my grandson didn't have the correct shoes she spoke to a Mr Griffiths who said that's fine i'll pass on the message, he failed to do so so my grandson spent the whole day in what they call isolation .And before anyone starts making comments my daughter is a single mum who works to feed, clothe and keep a roof over their heads she has to work to a budget every month she has struggled to make sure they have the correct uniform every year unfortunately the shoes she ordered for my grandson did not fit she explained this yet he still got penalised. Hamble school has become a joke over the last few years it's a shame they don't crack down on the bullying that goes on as much as they do school uniform.
Think the headteacher should be ashamed of herself for lying about pupils not being sent home, my granddaughter can name some of those sent home, they weren't given a choice either. Also my daughter went into the school to explain why my grandson didn't have the correct shoes she spoke to a Mr Griffiths who said that's fine i'll pass on the message, he failed to do so so my grandson spent the whole day in what they call isolation .And before anyone starts making comments my daughter is a single mum who works to feed, clothe and keep a roof over their heads she has to work to a budget every month she has struggled to make sure they have the correct uniform every year unfortunately the shoes she ordered for my grandson did not fit she explained this yet he still got penalised. Hamble school has become a joke over the last few years it's a shame they don't crack down on the bullying that goes on as much as they do school uniform. susie59
  • Score: 11

6:44pm Thu 4 Sep 14

sophisticated says...

she looks scruffy
she looks scruffy sophisticated
  • Score: 3

6:47pm Thu 4 Sep 14

sophisticated says...

Mary80 wrote:
Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear
You have missed the point. Rules have been broken.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear[/p][/quote]You have missed the point. Rules have been broken. sophisticated
  • Score: -2

6:59pm Thu 4 Sep 14

sophisticated says...

If you have a child in education, you know that your child will outgrow their uniform by the end of the old school year. Be organised and put a little aside, maybe after Christmas, and by August you will have enough to buy the correct uniform. It is called planning.
If you have a child in education, you know that your child will outgrow their uniform by the end of the old school year. Be organised and put a little aside, maybe after Christmas, and by August you will have enough to buy the correct uniform. It is called planning. sophisticated
  • Score: 9

8:35pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Turtlebay says...

Is this a posh private school or a State school?
If it's a state school and the teaching staff want the children to wear special uniform then the price of that uniform ought to come out of their wages or be paid for wholly by the school.
Children have to attend school by law, so why have their parents got to be penalised by some outspoken dragon of a teacher?
Is this a posh private school or a State school? If it's a state school and the teaching staff want the children to wear special uniform then the price of that uniform ought to come out of their wages or be paid for wholly by the school. Children have to attend school by law, so why have their parents got to be penalised by some outspoken dragon of a teacher? Turtlebay
  • Score: -8

8:43pm Thu 4 Sep 14

enidx says...

Parents have a choice of schools, if you don't like the uniform policy or the ethos of the school, find one you do like and send your children there.

Life is full of rules and regulations, get over it.

Quit moaning, support the school and teach this generation respect, integrity and honesty .

The youth of today is hideous (I know, I work in education) and in my opinion it's the parents that need to shoulder the blame and be answerable and accountable for the behaviour of their own children.

Lead by example.
Parents have a choice of schools, if you don't like the uniform policy or the ethos of the school, find one you do like and send your children there. Life is full of rules and regulations, get over it. Quit moaning, support the school and teach this generation respect, integrity and honesty . The youth of today is hideous (I know, I work in education) and in my opinion it's the parents that need to shoulder the blame and be answerable and accountable for the behaviour of their own children. Lead by example. enidx
  • Score: 9

9:48pm Thu 4 Sep 14

good-gosh says...

The answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything is not 42 as determined after 7.1/2million years by the supercomputer Deep Thought. The correct answer, believe it or not, is horrid, temperamental, inattentive, dirty, smelly, noisy little children. These nasty little things, left to their own devices, would grow up into ignorant, undisciplined, uncontrollable, unpredictable and lazy adults and be totally useless to the societies that they will one day want to take part in. But school uniforms, fortunately, are one of the many important tools available to help towards some semblance of conformity, on the seemingly hopeless long road that they must be dragged down, screaming and whining. Then, one day, deep in the mists of the future, they have some chance of emerging as delightful young men and women – just like us, if they try.
The answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything is not 42 as determined after 7.1/2million years by the supercomputer Deep Thought. The correct answer, believe it or not, is horrid, temperamental, inattentive, dirty, smelly, noisy little children. These nasty little things, left to their own devices, would grow up into ignorant, undisciplined, uncontrollable, unpredictable and lazy adults and be totally useless to the societies that they will one day want to take part in. But school uniforms, fortunately, are one of the many important tools available to help towards some semblance of conformity, on the seemingly hopeless long road that they must be dragged down, screaming and whining. Then, one day, deep in the mists of the future, they have some chance of emerging as delightful young men and women – just like us, if they try. good-gosh
  • Score: -1

10:36pm Thu 4 Sep 14

forest hump says...

CivicCentered wrote:
forest hump wrote:
CivicCentered wrote:
now in the north wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.
Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there...
It is wrong that schools force AGW down kids' throats'. it is unproven and until proven should stay off the agenda. Environmental responsibility is OK but do not force the unproven cr@p.
"there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases. No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view,"

But yeah, crack on with your nonsense....
It is consensus only. There are many out there who disagree And also there were the lies from the university of east Anglia. Dr jones is a liar. It will all be exposed as a scam and jerks like yourself will eat humble pie
[quote][p][bold]CivicCentered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CivicCentered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]now in the north[/bold] wrote: Uniform is exactly that - uni form.... One form for all. Do we really want all of our children to have the individuality forced out of them. This is part of the reason children in state schools are not achieving by the same ratio as those in private and home education. They have uniform dress code, uniform education, uniform answers... my son is a sceptic regarding global warming and was told his beliefs were wrong! Only an uneducated person would state as fact that the beliefs of another are wrong. Uniform teachers regurgitating to children trained to regurgitation. The same is not always the best.[/p][/quote]Your sons beliefs are wrong. What school does he go to? I'm sending my boy there...[/p][/quote]It is wrong that schools force AGW down kids' throats'. it is unproven and until proven should stay off the agenda. Environmental responsibility is OK but do not force the unproven cr@p.[/p][/quote]"there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused primarily by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases. No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view," But yeah, crack on with your nonsense....[/p][/quote]It is consensus only. There are many out there who disagree And also there were the lies from the university of east Anglia. Dr jones is a liar. It will all be exposed as a scam and jerks like yourself will eat humble pie forest hump
  • Score: 0

10:49pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

Molly is a lovely girl, kind,loving and funny.she has many friends and they come to her when they are being bullied(which is often at this school) as she has been bullied herself and has had to learn to deal with it(with the help of her family)even having bacon spat In her hair because she is a vegetarian ,been called all sorts of disgusting names and the school has told her on all occasions that it is not a school matter.! Molly works above or on all her target levels even though her teachers change often, she has never been in trouble at school and has received many achievement certificates and has always worn correct uniform(she had to at her last school as she was head girl!) she doesn't whine for the latest gadgets or dictate to me about what she wears to school-she knows she wouldn't get far! I have complied with the rules, the trousers had a 'straight leg' label on them and the shoes are leather. She does not look 'scruffy'( thank you for that comment) she looks like a school girl. The whole first day was unproffessional and traumatic especially for the new year 7's. What a great start to an already fear filled day! Molly's trousers were fitted from the top of her leg to about 8cm down but not tight and loose from there down tried boot leg and they were even worse so went with one of the 2 choices we were given. When Molly came home, I went up the school and spoke to mrs Halley-Gordon and she assured me that she would speak to the teacher who sent Molly home and would phone me and have Molly back in school that morning even saying she would get someone to come down and give her a lift back. No call-all day-answer phone when I rang! So many children were sent home that day a couple of people told me they thought the school had been evacuated! So you have to wonder about the statement made by the head mistress about no one being sent home! I'v stuck by the rules, I don't 'pander to my little darlings'(thanks for that one) and I support Molly in all her hard work but this day was a total waste of everyone's time,un professional and ridiculous (so many were sent home or into dismissal that some children were given black marker pens to colour in their logos on their shoes so they could be sent back to class!)None of this is down to Molly, I buy her uniform and she will defiantly NOT be doing national service if bought back! (Even for girls).The first day was an epic fail and changes need to be made.
Molly is a lovely girl, kind,loving and funny.she has many friends and they come to her when they are being bullied(which is often at this school) as she has been bullied herself and has had to learn to deal with it(with the help of her family)even having bacon spat In her hair because she is a vegetarian ,been called all sorts of disgusting names and the school has told her on all occasions that it is not a school matter.! Molly works above or on all her target levels even though her teachers change often, she has never been in trouble at school and has received many achievement certificates and has always worn correct uniform(she had to at her last school as she was head girl!) she doesn't whine for the latest gadgets or dictate to me about what she wears to school-she knows she wouldn't get far! I have complied with the rules, the trousers had a 'straight leg' label on them and the shoes are leather. She does not look 'scruffy'( thank you for that comment) she looks like a school girl. The whole first day was unproffessional and traumatic especially for the new year 7's. What a great start to an already fear filled day! Molly's trousers were fitted from the top of her leg to about 8cm down but not tight and loose from there down tried boot leg and they were even worse so went with one of the 2 choices we were given. When Molly came home, I went up the school and spoke to mrs Halley-Gordon and she assured me that she would speak to the teacher who sent Molly home and would phone me and have Molly back in school that morning even saying she would get someone to come down and give her a lift back. No call-all day-answer phone when I rang! So many children were sent home that day a couple of people told me they thought the school had been evacuated! So you have to wonder about the statement made by the head mistress about no one being sent home! I'v stuck by the rules, I don't 'pander to my little darlings'(thanks for that one) and I support Molly in all her hard work but this day was a total waste of everyone's time,un professional and ridiculous (so many were sent home or into dismissal that some children were given black marker pens to colour in their logos on their shoes so they could be sent back to class!)None of this is down to Molly, I buy her uniform and she will defiantly NOT be doing national service if bought back! (Even for girls).The first day was an epic fail and changes need to be made. Katyt44
  • Score: 14

7:29am Fri 5 Sep 14

enidx says...

See, this is where you go wrong, with national service, you don't get a choice !!!
See, this is where you go wrong, with national service, you don't get a choice !!! enidx
  • Score: -2

8:03am Fri 5 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

Shoong wrote:
The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..?
Yes she does! She's wearing eyeliner and that's it! No foundation,no blusher,no lipstick.shes lucky at her age to have good skin and natrual pink lips.have a look at some of the other girls there with false eye lashes and hair extensions and a bit of eyeliner does not affect her learning as she is in the top groups for nearly all subjects! Your obviously a very judgemental person!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..?[/p][/quote]Yes she does! She's wearing eyeliner and that's it! No foundation,no blusher,no lipstick.shes lucky at her age to have good skin and natrual pink lips.have a look at some of the other girls there with false eye lashes and hair extensions and a bit of eyeliner does not affect her learning as she is in the top groups for nearly all subjects! Your obviously a very judgemental person! Katyt44
  • Score: 0

8:53am Fri 5 Sep 14

Shoong says...

Katyt44 wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..?
Yes she does! She's wearing eyeliner and that's it! No foundation,no blusher,no lipstick.shes lucky at her age to have good skin and natrual pink lips.have a look at some of the other girls there with false eye lashes and hair extensions and a bit of eyeliner does not affect her learning as she is in the top groups for nearly all subjects! Your obviously a very judgemental person!
I'll assume you are a child so won't be too hard on you...

She's wearing enough war paint to take an Indian tribe into battle.
[quote][p][bold]Katyt44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..?[/p][/quote]Yes she does! She's wearing eyeliner and that's it! No foundation,no blusher,no lipstick.shes lucky at her age to have good skin and natrual pink lips.have a look at some of the other girls there with false eye lashes and hair extensions and a bit of eyeliner does not affect her learning as she is in the top groups for nearly all subjects! Your obviously a very judgemental person![/p][/quote]I'll assume you are a child so won't be too hard on you... She's wearing enough war paint to take an Indian tribe into battle. Shoong
  • Score: -1

10:14am Fri 5 Sep 14

kitty38 says...

Oasis Academy Mayfield don't give 2 hoots about uniform despite wasting money in the holidays sending letters out with photographs on how they want the students to look. Senior leadership team and head of school were on the gate this morning and we watched as girls in tight fitting trousers, tight jumper mini skirts, trainers all walked past them, nothing said to them apart from a 'hello' despite the promise of this heavy crackdown that was promised. I thought the uniform would slip after a couple of weeks but it never even got started, looks like the battle I had in the holidays of making my daughter wear correct shoes and spending £68 on 3 pairs of trousers was a total waste after seeing the sights walking in there today.
Oasis Academy Mayfield don't give 2 hoots about uniform despite wasting money in the holidays sending letters out with photographs on how they want the students to look. Senior leadership team and head of school were on the gate this morning and we watched as girls in tight fitting trousers, tight jumper mini skirts, trainers all walked past them, nothing said to them apart from a 'hello' despite the promise of this heavy crackdown that was promised. I thought the uniform would slip after a couple of weeks but it never even got started, looks like the battle I had in the holidays of making my daughter wear correct shoes and spending £68 on 3 pairs of trousers was a total waste after seeing the sights walking in there today. kitty38
  • Score: 4

11:05am Fri 5 Sep 14

Mary80 says...

sophisticated wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear
You have missed the point. Rules have been broken.
Right well YOU pay for all the uniforms that are "wrong" then if its such a bloody issue
[quote][p][bold]sophisticated[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear[/p][/quote]You have missed the point. Rules have been broken.[/p][/quote]Right well YOU pay for all the uniforms that are "wrong" then if its such a bloody issue Mary80
  • Score: -3

11:05am Fri 5 Sep 14

Mary80 says...

sophisticated wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear
You have missed the point. Rules have been broken.
Right well YOU pay for all the uniforms that are "wrong" then if its such a bloody issue
[quote][p][bold]sophisticated[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: Not being funny but uniforms do NOT come cheap, i'd much rather have a school that puts more focus on EDUCATION than what they wear[/p][/quote]You have missed the point. Rules have been broken.[/p][/quote]Right well YOU pay for all the uniforms that are "wrong" then if its such a bloody issue Mary80
  • Score: -2

12:37pm Fri 5 Sep 14

forest hump says...

good-gosh wrote:
The answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything is not 42 as determined after 7.1/2million years by the supercomputer Deep Thought. The correct answer, believe it or not, is horrid, temperamental, inattentive, dirty, smelly, noisy little children. These nasty little things, left to their own devices, would grow up into ignorant, undisciplined, uncontrollable, unpredictable and lazy adults and be totally useless to the societies that they will one day want to take part in. But school uniforms, fortunately, are one of the many important tools available to help towards some semblance of conformity, on the seemingly hopeless long road that they must be dragged down, screaming and whining. Then, one day, deep in the mists of the future, they have some chance of emerging as delightful young men and women – just like us, if they try.
Unfortunately, the proportion of delightful young men and women is diminishing exponentially. We are breeding 3rd generation layabouts in some cases and government(s) are encouraging by handing out free housing to teenage mothers and countless benefits to lazy scroungers. I will not start on those who do not belong in this Country as there many softies out there who believe they have a right to be here.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: The answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything is not 42 as determined after 7.1/2million years by the supercomputer Deep Thought. The correct answer, believe it or not, is horrid, temperamental, inattentive, dirty, smelly, noisy little children. These nasty little things, left to their own devices, would grow up into ignorant, undisciplined, uncontrollable, unpredictable and lazy adults and be totally useless to the societies that they will one day want to take part in. But school uniforms, fortunately, are one of the many important tools available to help towards some semblance of conformity, on the seemingly hopeless long road that they must be dragged down, screaming and whining. Then, one day, deep in the mists of the future, they have some chance of emerging as delightful young men and women – just like us, if they try.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, the proportion of delightful young men and women is diminishing exponentially. We are breeding 3rd generation layabouts in some cases and government(s) are encouraging by handing out free housing to teenage mothers and countless benefits to lazy scroungers. I will not start on those who do not belong in this Country as there many softies out there who believe they have a right to be here. forest hump
  • Score: 2

12:45pm Fri 5 Sep 14

03alpe01 says...

enidx wrote:
See, this is where you go wrong, with national service, you don't get a choice !!!
What is your obsession with National Service?
[quote][p][bold]enidx[/bold] wrote: See, this is where you go wrong, with national service, you don't get a choice !!![/p][/quote]What is your obsession with National Service? 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

1:11pm Fri 5 Sep 14

iow-is-red-and-white says...

Big Mac wrote:
Maybe spend less time sat in front of a computer and go and earn a bit more or sell somethings – like old computer games, cds etc – and the cost of an approved uniform will be within reach.
Pathetic post
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: Maybe spend less time sat in front of a computer and go and earn a bit more or sell somethings – like old computer games, cds etc – and the cost of an approved uniform will be within reach.[/p][/quote]Pathetic post iow-is-red-and-white
  • Score: 0

1:11pm Fri 5 Sep 14

..:-/.. says...

After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here ..:-/..
  • Score: 3

2:45pm Fri 5 Sep 14

sophisticated says...

enidx wrote:
Parents have a choice of schools, if you don't like the uniform policy or the ethos of the school, find one you do like and send your children there.

Life is full of rules and regulations, get over it.

Quit moaning, support the school and teach this generation respect, integrity and honesty .

The youth of today is hideous (I know, I work in education) and in my opinion it's the parents that need to shoulder the blame and be answerable and accountable for the behaviour of their own children.

Lead by example.
Couldn't have said it any better - re the youth of today!
[quote][p][bold]enidx[/bold] wrote: Parents have a choice of schools, if you don't like the uniform policy or the ethos of the school, find one you do like and send your children there. Life is full of rules and regulations, get over it. Quit moaning, support the school and teach this generation respect, integrity and honesty . The youth of today is hideous (I know, I work in education) and in my opinion it's the parents that need to shoulder the blame and be answerable and accountable for the behaviour of their own children. Lead by example.[/p][/quote]Couldn't have said it any better - re the youth of today! sophisticated
  • Score: 0

2:45pm Fri 5 Sep 14

sophisticated says...

enidx wrote:
Parents have a choice of schools, if you don't like the uniform policy or the ethos of the school, find one you do like and send your children there.

Life is full of rules and regulations, get over it.

Quit moaning, support the school and teach this generation respect, integrity and honesty .

The youth of today is hideous (I know, I work in education) and in my opinion it's the parents that need to shoulder the blame and be answerable and accountable for the behaviour of their own children.

Lead by example.
Couldn't have said it any better - re the youth of today!
[quote][p][bold]enidx[/bold] wrote: Parents have a choice of schools, if you don't like the uniform policy or the ethos of the school, find one you do like and send your children there. Life is full of rules and regulations, get over it. Quit moaning, support the school and teach this generation respect, integrity and honesty . The youth of today is hideous (I know, I work in education) and in my opinion it's the parents that need to shoulder the blame and be answerable and accountable for the behaviour of their own children. Lead by example.[/p][/quote]Couldn't have said it any better - re the youth of today! sophisticated
  • Score: -1

4:18pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

..:-/.. wrote:
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was
[quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here[/p][/quote]As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was Katyt44
  • Score: 5

4:30pm Fri 5 Sep 14

..:-/.. says...

Katyt44 wrote:
..:-/.. wrote:
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was
Sorry to hear that your experience wasn't good, he wants to stay at the school due to his friends etc.. But already dreding his next 5 years if he's already not having support!
[quote][p][bold]Katyt44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here[/p][/quote]As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that your experience wasn't good, he wants to stay at the school due to his friends etc.. But already dreding his next 5 years if he's already not having support! ..:-/..
  • Score: 1

4:56pm Fri 5 Sep 14

shoebabe says...

I agree with the skirt rule, as my daughter has just left Bitterne Park secondary in Southampton, and most of the girls there where skirts which are just below there bums and sometimes you can see there bums ! The strict uniform lasts for a couple of weeks and then returns to the normal inappropriate uniform ! I Believe that each school should have a set skirt, pair of trousers and shoe which children should have to wear, which would stop all of the hassle of parents having to try and find uniform which the feel is appropriate only to be told that it is not !
I agree with the skirt rule, as my daughter has just left Bitterne Park secondary in Southampton, and most of the girls there where skirts which are just below there bums and sometimes you can see there bums ! The strict uniform lasts for a couple of weeks and then returns to the normal inappropriate uniform ! I Believe that each school should have a set skirt, pair of trousers and shoe which children should have to wear, which would stop all of the hassle of parents having to try and find uniform which the feel is appropriate only to be told that it is not ! shoebabe
  • Score: 2

5:01pm Fri 5 Sep 14

shoebabe says...

Good ! it teaches young people that they need to dress appropriately ! My daughter used to go to bitterne park secondary school in Southampton, and the girls who wear skirts there wear them so short that they are more like belts than skirts ! But it just shows how rough the school is when the pupils don't dress appropriately! It also sets students up for when there older and have to dress smartly for work ! Why don't schools just have a set skirt, a pairs of trousers for boys and girls and a set pair of shoes that boys and girls have to wear to stop confusion over which items of clothing are appropriate for wearing during the school day ?
Good ! it teaches young people that they need to dress appropriately ! My daughter used to go to bitterne park secondary school in Southampton, and the girls who wear skirts there wear them so short that they are more like belts than skirts ! But it just shows how rough the school is when the pupils don't dress appropriately! It also sets students up for when there older and have to dress smartly for work ! Why don't schools just have a set skirt, a pairs of trousers for boys and girls and a set pair of shoes that boys and girls have to wear to stop confusion over which items of clothing are appropriate for wearing during the school day ? shoebabe
  • Score: 1

6:31pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

People are not getting the point of this article! I didn't go to the echo because she had to wear uniform I told them because I was angry about how inconsistent they were being and sending kids home. On the day I put Molly in trousers that were fitted at the top but not tight and baggier at the bottom and they were deemed too tight so today she went in with the same trouser but 2sizes bigger and was told the top of them were ok but the bottom part is too tight! How can that be physically possible!
People are not getting the point of this article! I didn't go to the echo because she had to wear uniform I told them because I was angry about how inconsistent they were being and sending kids home. On the day I put Molly in trousers that were fitted at the top but not tight and baggier at the bottom and they were deemed too tight so today she went in with the same trouser but 2sizes bigger and was told the top of them were ok but the bottom part is too tight! How can that be physically possible! Katyt44
  • Score: 1

9:11pm Fri 5 Sep 14

mrblunt says...

..:-/.. wrote:
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
Perhaps the school don't want your son and his problems and would rather you took your 'issues' elsewhere. Maybe you could start unwrapping the cotton wool you have him cocooned in and let him see the real hard world
[quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here[/p][/quote]Perhaps the school don't want your son and his problems and would rather you took your 'issues' elsewhere. Maybe you could start unwrapping the cotton wool you have him cocooned in and let him see the real hard world mrblunt
  • Score: 0

10:20pm Fri 5 Sep 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

Have a look at the STAFF / TEACHERS dress code in schools . NO rules ! and these are teaching What is RIGHT or Wrong with society . Hamble / Oasis , Chamberlain etc all suffer from SCRUFFY and inappropriate dress of the staff . GET YOUR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER
Have a look at the STAFF / TEACHERS dress code in schools . NO rules ! and these are teaching What is RIGHT or Wrong with society . Hamble / Oasis , Chamberlain etc all suffer from SCRUFFY and inappropriate dress of the staff . GET YOUR OWN HOUSE IN ORDER SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 3

10:29pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

mrblunt wrote:
..:-/.. wrote:
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
Perhaps the school don't want your son and his problems and would rather you took your 'issues' elsewhere. Maybe you could start unwrapping the cotton wool you have him cocooned in and let him see the real hard world
You are right, the school probably doesn't want him and his issues which make them a useless school as he has every right to be there and have his issues dealt with and I hope to god you don't work in a school because you are judging this child before you even know what's wrong and you don't understand that it is challenging enough to bring up a typical child let alone one with problems and the lady really doesn't need a nasty judgemental person like you telling her to unwrap him from the cotton wool when you have no idea what the problem is! Show some empathy,find out the problem then make your mind up! Sorry, silly me people like you are to lazy to bother!
[quote][p][bold]mrblunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here[/p][/quote]Perhaps the school don't want your son and his problems and would rather you took your 'issues' elsewhere. Maybe you could start unwrapping the cotton wool you have him cocooned in and let him see the real hard world[/p][/quote]You are right, the school probably doesn't want him and his issues which make them a useless school as he has every right to be there and have his issues dealt with and I hope to god you don't work in a school because you are judging this child before you even know what's wrong and you don't understand that it is challenging enough to bring up a typical child let alone one with problems and the lady really doesn't need a nasty judgemental person like you telling her to unwrap him from the cotton wool when you have no idea what the problem is! Show some empathy,find out the problem then make your mind up! Sorry, silly me people like you are to lazy to bother! Katyt44
  • Score: 2

10:34pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

..:-/.. wrote:
Katyt44 wrote:
..:-/.. wrote:
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was
Sorry to hear that your experience wasn't good, he wants to stay at the school due to his friends etc.. But already dreding his next 5 years if he's already not having support!
Don't read comments like that, my son has issues too. I don't know what's up with your lad but it might be an idea to make an appointment with the senko up there, I don't know her name as my son is still in primary but I have heard she's new and really good
[quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katyt44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here[/p][/quote]As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that your experience wasn't good, he wants to stay at the school due to his friends etc.. But already dreding his next 5 years if he's already not having support![/p][/quote]Don't read comments like that, my son has issues too. I don't know what's up with your lad but it might be an idea to make an appointment with the senko up there, I don't know her name as my son is still in primary but I have heard she's new and really good Katyt44
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10:45pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

..:-/.. wrote:
Katyt44 wrote:
..:-/.. wrote:
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was
Sorry to hear that your experience wasn't good, he wants to stay at the school due to his friends etc.. But already dreding his next 5 years if he's already not having support!
That was my daughter in that post, she's had to harden up and she copes with a lot of humour but the school still gets her down. Don't know what your sons issues are but may be make an appointment with the schools senko, i'v heard she's new and good and it might help
[quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katyt44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here[/p][/quote]As a pupil at this school, I would recommend looking around at other schools in the area because, trust me, as your son is already having problems, if he does move up to Hamble and the problems continue, you and your son will get no or very little valuable help that is worth while from the staff. I have witnessed their "help" first hand and I wouldn't want any other person in the same position that I was[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear that your experience wasn't good, he wants to stay at the school due to his friends etc.. But already dreding his next 5 years if he's already not having support![/p][/quote]That was my daughter in that post, she's had to harden up and she copes with a lot of humour but the school still gets her down. Don't know what your sons issues are but may be make an appointment with the schools senko, i'v heard she's new and good and it might help Katyt44
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10:50pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Katyt44 says...

Shoong wrote:
Katyt44 wrote:
Shoong wrote:
The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..?
Yes she does! She's wearing eyeliner and that's it! No foundation,no blusher,no lipstick.shes lucky at her age to have good skin and natrual pink lips.have a look at some of the other girls there with false eye lashes and hair extensions and a bit of eyeliner does not affect her learning as she is in the top groups for nearly all subjects! Your obviously a very judgemental person!
I'll assume you are a child so won't be too hard on you...

She's wearing enough war paint to take an Indian tribe into battle.
Thank you so much for being really kind and not being to hard on me, little me is sooo gratefull. I'm her mother you idiot!!!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katyt44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: The picture says a lot - does Molly wear that much make up to school..?[/p][/quote]Yes she does! She's wearing eyeliner and that's it! No foundation,no blusher,no lipstick.shes lucky at her age to have good skin and natrual pink lips.have a look at some of the other girls there with false eye lashes and hair extensions and a bit of eyeliner does not affect her learning as she is in the top groups for nearly all subjects! Your obviously a very judgemental person![/p][/quote]I'll assume you are a child so won't be too hard on you... She's wearing enough war paint to take an Indian tribe into battle.[/p][/quote]Thank you so much for being really kind and not being to hard on me, little me is sooo gratefull. I'm her mother you idiot!!! Katyt44
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9:59pm Thu 11 Sep 14

..:-/.. says...

mrblunt wrote:
..:-/.. wrote:
After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here
Perhaps the school don't want your son and his problems and would rather you took your 'issues' elsewhere. Maybe you could start unwrapping the cotton wool you have him cocooned in and let him see the real hard world
My sons far from been wrapped in cotton wool and has probably dealt with more things in his life than most!! However I thought that teachers (as well as being there to educate children)were also there for support/help and guidance in a child's life as they play a huge roll with children growing up, so if a child have a problem IN school shouldn't they seek advice from a teacher?but honestly if you have a different opinion to that then please share?!
[quote][p][bold]mrblunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]..:-/..[/bold] wrote: After reading this, and the comments I'm in doubt whether the school is a good move for my son especially when he is having problems already (and not with his uniform may I add!)... The staff were not exactly the helpful/caring or sympathetic people I was expecting! seriously considering taking my issues further than the head teacher after reading what others have wrote on here[/p][/quote]Perhaps the school don't want your son and his problems and would rather you took your 'issues' elsewhere. Maybe you could start unwrapping the cotton wool you have him cocooned in and let him see the real hard world[/p][/quote]My sons far from been wrapped in cotton wool and has probably dealt with more things in his life than most!! However I thought that teachers (as well as being there to educate children)were also there for support/help and guidance in a child's life as they play a huge roll with children growing up, so if a child have a problem IN school shouldn't they seek advice from a teacher?but honestly if you have a different opinion to that then please share?! ..:-/..
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