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Man falls in front of 100 mph train

11:45am Monday 29th October 2007

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AN INVESTIGATION was underway this morning after a man died after falling in front of a train travelling at 100 miles per hour.

British Transport Police officers received a 999 call shortly before 10am following reports that a person had been struck by the train, which was empty and travelling between Basingstoke and Southampton.

The man, who has not been identified, fell in front of the high speed train as it passed through Winchester station. He was declared dead at the scene and the station was closed.

The area is currently being cleared by police and train services running through Winchester have been severely disrupted. The station is expected to remain closed until early this afternoon.

Eight buses were due to arrive at the station at around midday to shuttle stranded passengers between Winchester, Eastleigh and Basingstoke.

A spokesman for the BTP said; "I can confirm a man was struck by a train which was empty stock and being taken from Basingstoke to Southampton. It was going at 100 miles per hour when it struck the man.

"The death is not being treated as suspicious and we are working to identify the deceased and contact his next of kin. A report will be prepared for the coroner."


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L, S says...
11:27am Mon 29 Oct 07

my thoughts go out to his family and close friends
luv l xxx

a, a says...
11:38am Mon 29 Oct 07

How can you fall in front of a train! Your either pushed or you jump.

Dan Druff, says...
11:59am Mon 29 Oct 07

The station has now re-opened.

Denzil, Romsey says...
12:00pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Exactly.

Andrew, Southampton says...
12:13pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Is 100mph not a little bit too fast to be travelling when passing through a railway station?

Fat Controller, Winchester says...
12:40pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Providing everyone is stood at an appropriate distance from the platform edge (as signified by the yellow line and audible announcements) then 100 mph is perfectly acceptable. There are stations on the East Coast mainlines where trains regularly travel through stations at 125+mph. Regardless of how fast the train is travelling, if you fall or throw yourself under a 40 tonne train then the consequences are going to be bad.

Having said that, this is still very sad for friends and family of the dead man.

Fat Controller, Winchester says...
12:41pm Mon 29 Oct 07

And not forgetting the driver of the train of course who probably didn't expect that when he woke up this morning.

John Godfrey, Winchester says...
12:44pm Mon 29 Oct 07

As a communter caught up in the mayhem I would comment that I do believe trains travel at 100mph through Winchester station. I would suggest the line speed is around 85-90mph maximum. Stations are safe unless an individual decides to act in inappropriate manner. Whilst my sympathy goes out to the individuals family please spare a thought for the driver of train and the station staff and emergency services who have to contend with the incident.

This is indeed a 'black' Monday for the local network as the re-signalling work in Portsmouth area failed shortly before this event and meant that many commuters in the area suffered anything up to 2 hours plus delay getting to work! I know - I was one of them!

Christoff, says...
12:47pm Mon 29 Oct 07

a wrote:
How can you fall in front of a train! Your either pushed or you jump.
could have fainted, lost balance, tripped on something?

Denzil, Romsey says...
12:50pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Sensationalist reporting by the Echo again.

Alan, says...
1:03pm Mon 29 Oct 07

a wrote:
How can you fall in front of a train! Your either pushed or you jump.
That's like asking, "How can you fall off a cliff, you're either pushed or you jump?"

It's possible to slip on both occassions.

confused, says...
1:17pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Don't read it then Denzil. And don't comment on this site. If you don't like it, find something else to spend your time doing.

Markmag, Southampton says...
1:24pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Denzil wrote:
Sensationalist reporting by the Echo again.
I'm sorry I've reread this story and I cannot see anything sensationalist here at all. The story is written entirely factually. It's also been given due promininence considering a death has occurred. Maybe you should not consider a career in journalism Denzil? BTW I'm not a journalist and have nothing to do with the Echo.

Sarah, Southampton says...
1:50pm Mon 29 Oct 07

This might have not been the case this morning..... But quite often, I have heard an announcement at the station (especially Winchester), stating clearly that a fast train is coming thr the station, please stand back. It’s surprising how many people do not listen, and are hovering on the yellow line.

Annoyed, Winchester says...
2:02pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Why is it when there is a tragedy, everyone seems to think they are an expert as to what happened and why. Do they not appreciate the hurt they could cause to the family of the person involved, if they should read the comments made??

SWT Driver, Southampton says...
2:07pm Mon 29 Oct 07

First, my thoughts are with the family and the driver. Devastating to both.

For clarification, the line-speed IS 100mph through Winchester, and an empty train would expect to keep to that speed if not slowed by restrictive signals.

Andrew, restrict speeds through stations? Just 2 weeks ago a man died after being hit by a train at Basingstoke. It was travelling at 25mph.

Fell or pushed? I am sure the truth will emerge. Both are entirely possible. I have lost count of the number of times I have seen people wandering right to the edge of the platform while on the phone oblivious to the world. We also regularly see teenagers and drunks showing off to their mates by faking a dive as a train approaches. Its only a matter of time before one overdoes it and falls on the line. However, experience tells me that a fall is extremely rare, a push happens very occasionally, but jumps? Regular as clockwork!

Once again devastating for all involved.

Fat Controller, Winchester says...
2:16pm Mon 29 Oct 07

Annoyed wrote:
Why is it when there is a tragedy, everyone seems to think they are an expert as to what happened and why. Do they not appreciate the hurt they could cause to the family of the person involved, if they should read the comments made??
I think we all appreciate what the family / friends are going through. The point here is this: He was not pushed as the police are not treating it as suspicious. If he jumped then we should be sympathising with a wider group of people (ie passengers, driver etc) and if he slipped / fell then one should be asking why he was so close to the platform edge. The yellow line is quite clear, the are audible announcements and warning signs about keeping clear from the platform edge. I certainly do not consider myself an expert by any means. If i was then i wouldn't be in the job I am now. It is human nature to discuss their opinions. I have taken yours on board.

Mark, Netely says...
6:16pm Mon 29 Oct 07

i can definitely vouch for the trains travellign at 100 mph, when the station is packed when symonds empties, u could easily get knocked in front of one. Ouch!!

Gemma, southampton says...
11:09pm Mon 29 Oct 07

i see the wolf pack is at it again.........

Anon, South says...
11:23pm Mon 29 Oct 07

SWT Driver wrote:
First, my thoughts are with the family and the driver. Devastating to both. For clarification, the line-speed IS 100mph through Winchester, and an empty train would expect to keep to that speed if not slowed by restrictive signals. Andrew, restrict speeds through stations? Just 2 weeks ago a man died after being hit by a train at Basingstoke. It was travelling at 25mph. Fell or pushed? I am sure the truth will emerge. Both are entirely possible. I have lost count of the number of times I have seen people wandering right to the edge of the platform while on the phone oblivious to the world. We also regularly see teenagers and drunks showing off to their mates by faking a dive as a train approaches. Its only a matter of time before one overdoes it and falls on the line. However, experience tells me that a fall is extremely rare, a push happens very occasionally, but jumps? Regular as clockwork! Once again devastating for all involved.
Having witnessed first hand the one in Basingstoke 2 weeks ago ,I just want to agree - Speed will make little difference and apart from his poor family , friends , police , driver and staff - my thoughts also go out for those witnesses who are probably still in shock. "I know how it feels".

Denzil, Romsey says...
9:14am Tue 30 Oct 07

confused wrote:
Don't read it then Denzil. And don't comment on this site. If you don't like it, find something else to spend your time doing.
You might wish to get off your high horse before you comment next time.

A Passenger., London says...
7:40am Wed 31 Oct 07



Unfortunately i am the lady that was quoted earlier as having to be escorted off the train after witnessing the event. I have not been contacted by any reporter (neither do i wish to be) and how the details of the event can be 'reported' without fact is something i don't understand. I was sat next to the window at the front of the first carriage of the stationery train adjacent to the track. I can tell you that the elderly gentlemen did not fall or jump. Unfortunately he knew exactly what he was doing without any regard for the driver or anyone else. The image of what i saw will haunt me for the rest of my life and to read petty arguing over reports of falling or jumping from a local newspaper does seem somewhat petty.
My thoughts are with the driver and any other witnesses.



Anon - south, South says...
8:32am Wed 31 Oct 07

I just wanted to say to "A passenger" .Having witnessed something similar a few weeks ago.
Yes the memory will stay with you for ever - but in a few weeks hopefully it won`t be so etched in your memory as it is now. Try to talk about it with someone . It helped me when i found out the mans name and why he probably did it. B.T.P may help you with this. There was a nice BTP gentleman from Southampton who rang me and gave me some advice on how i was feeling .
In alot of cases theyre mentally ill and beyond functioning and thinking reasonably , therefore are not really responsible for their actions. It`s such a tragic way to end a life - even more so for their poor families.

Ed Mardell, Netley says...
9:43am Mon 5 Nov 07

Mark wrote:
i can definitely vouch for the trains travellign at 100 mph, when the station is packed when symonds empties, u could easily get knocked in front of one. Ouch!!
Is that Mark Jinks??

Pete, Farnham says...
8:35am Sat 10 Nov 07

It was reported to me that a former colleague committed suicide on 29th October. He lived in Winchester - I am presuming this is how he did it. There is no further news on this, presumably something will come out in due course...

emma, colchester says...
1:59am Fri 28 Mar 08

i'm sorry to say the man was very selfish and he jumped, i know this for a fact as i am his daughter, so i hope i have cleared that up!!! i'm would like to say a very big sorry on his behalf to the driver and anyone who wittnessed the incident.

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