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Ikea store gets green light

9:30am Wednesday 7th November 2007

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LONG-awaited plans for a giant Ikea furniture superstore in Southampton were last night given an unanimous backing by councillors.

Work on the four-storey 31,500 sq m store, set to be built over 12 months on the former Pirelli site off West Quay Road, could begin as early as February.

The store, complete with 600-seat restaurant, and 891-space multi-storey car park, is likely to open until 10pm. It will create 500 jobs.

Ikea planning manger Graham Sharp said: "We are delighted. It's been a long slog. It's taken two years of preparation to get to this stage and we're pleased we got full support of the councillors."

He told councillors traffic was going to grow in the city, but it was a question of making the best use of sites in the city.

The Pirelli site was the best available because an out-of-town plot would not get planning consent, he said. An earlier plan for Millbrook was withdraw.

Planning panel chairman Councillor John Slade said the store would be a "boost for retail" that would help push Southampton back up the national shopping league after slipping to ninth.

Speaking after the meeting, Cabinet member for environment and transport Councillor Gavin Dick added: "Ikea will be a draw not just for people in Southampton but for shoppers right across the south."

Hammerson, the owners of West Quay, withdrew its opposition to the store at the 11th hour after it signed an agreement with Ikea for a walkway to its shopping centre.

Along with John Lewis, Hammerson raised doubts about Ikea's projected turnover of £55m a year.

They claimed Ikea's estimated 2.4 million shoppers - about 9,000 on a Saturday - would harm trade and clog the roads. John Lewis stood by its objection. Port owners ABP, had also raised concerns about traffic.

Ikea slightly raised its prediction of a 15 per cent increase in traffic to better take into account other developments and football match days.

It has agreed to widen the right turn out of Harbour Parade into West Quay Road to two lanes and add another left turn lane from Southern Road into West Quay Road. The store will have one entrance from West Quay Road. Existing bus and rail links were accepted as adequate.

The Secretary of State for Communities Hazel Blears could still call in the planning application for a public inquiry.


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Good news, says...
10:36pm Tue 6 Nov 07

Nice to see some good news for the city.

Good news indeed, says...
10:40pm Tue 6 Nov 07

Result !

ikea fan, no where near Pomp*y says...
10:45pm Tue 6 Nov 07

Pomp*y eat your heart out. We've got West Quay and now Ikea is comming too.
Have they rebuilt the Tricon centre yet!?

Hooray, says...
10:47pm Tue 6 Nov 07

Brilliant! We're finally going to have something to bring more people into the city.

NOT HAPPY, says...
10:49pm Tue 6 Nov 07

THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR CITY

THERE IS TOO MUCH CONGESTION IN SOUTHAMPTON AS IT IS WITHOUT THE MASSES FLOCKING IN IN THEIR 4 X 4S

THIS CITY NEEDS THE WOW FACTOR LIKE AN ice rink

Mona Lisa, says...
10:56pm Tue 6 Nov 07

The people of Southampton! Who is NOT HAPPY?! Surely not has Gordon Brown moved here, talking for the people as he knows them so well!

Great news just not so sure the road system can handle it, shame it's not out of town.

Oh but who's fault is that, it can't be built there can it Gordon!!!!!

NOT HAPPY, says...
11:02pm Tue 6 Nov 07

Mona Lisa wrote:
The people of Southampton! Who is NOT HAPPY?! Surely not has Gordon Brown moved here, talking for the people as he knows them so well!

Great news just not so sure the road system can handle it, shame it's not out of town.

Oh but who's fault is that, it can't be built there can it Gordon!!!!!
IM GLAD YOUR ON OUR SIDE

HOW CAN WE FIGHT THESE BEASTS

Mrs Happy, Hampshire says...
11:04pm Tue 6 Nov 07

I'm sorry 'not happy' have you actually asked the people of Southampton if they want Ikea. I for one certainly do. I only wish Gordon Brown would have allowed the building to have been out of town, but that's what happens when logic goes out the window.

Ted, the father, Waterside says...
11:05pm Tue 6 Nov 07

An ice rink.....! I seem to remember Southampton had one before & one of the reasons cited for its closure was that it ran at a loss. What a spectacularly dumb suggestion. (yes I know the temporary one was very popular but thats the Christmas effect when everyone is feeling warm & fuzzy & nostalgic, the magic soon wears off)

An IKEA store is a great catch for the City and for once the council seem to have made the right decision. I'm looking forward to it. (not backwards!!)

Andy, Southampton says...
11:22pm Tue 6 Nov 07

For nigh on 20 years I've been going up the M3/M25 to get my furniture. All the while I've asked IKEA, when are they coming to Southampton? They've always answered that they really want to, but keep getting turned down. Well at last it's going to be here. No more long trips. Brilliant!

BRJ, Southampton says...
11:38pm Tue 6 Nov 07

Good decision :)

sally goodfellow, southampton says...
11:38pm Tue 6 Nov 07

I cant wait, love ikea twice a year or more i go to lakeside and fill my car with ikea goodies now only a 10 min trip up the road.Just hope they sort out West Quay road with even more shoppers coming to town should have been out of city center

Flatpack, Southampton says...
12:03am Wed 7 Nov 07

NOT HAPPY wrote:
THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR CITY THERE IS TOO MUCH CONGESTION IN SOUTHAMPTON AS IT IS WITHOUT THE MASSES FLOCKING IN IN THEIR 4 X 4S THIS CITY NEEDS THE WOW FACTOR LIKE AN ice rink
Why does every story have to get hijacked by those boring, stuck-records bleating on about bloody ice-rinks? You are in the minority; we don't want an ice-rink, we don't need an ice-rink and we don't want to hear you harping on about bloody ice-rinks all the time. Get the message? If it was a popular choice, and if it was commercially viable, we would have one. It's not, it isn't, live with it.

Anyhoo...I'm sure there are reasons why Ikea isn't being built out of town. A previous poster mentioned about planning regs. meant that it had to be centrally located. Not sure. The wife will be pleased with Ikea being built, but I'm yet to be convinced about the parking and congestion issue.

I have heard plausible arguments about Ikea being open late, 7 days a week etc, in the hope that shoppers won't all flock on a Saturday morning, but there's nowt as queer as folk, and I bet they turn up in their droves. Likewise, the calls for park & drive (sensible idea, but where do you put it) and suggestions that the store is centrally located so that shoppers from far afield can catch the train, are impractical, unless you're just buying meatballs and not a flat-pack kitchen.

I'm pleased Ikea is coming; boost for the local economy and profile. Am happy to reserve judgement on the traffic until it's built. Surely the planners and Ikea have taken this into consideration. Here's hoping...

Should have gone to, Specsavers says...
12:07am Wed 7 Nov 07

NOT HAPPY wrote:
Mona Lisa wrote: The people of Southampton! Who is NOT HAPPY?! Surely not has Gordon Brown moved here, talking for the people as he knows them so well! Great news just not so sure the road system can handle it, shame it's not out of town. Oh but who's fault is that, it can't be built there can it Gordon!!!!!
IM GLAD YOUR ON OUR SIDE HOW CAN WE FIGHT THESE BEASTS
"NOT HAPPY" - RTFQ. I think you'll find Ms. Lisa was actually being sarcastic! Arsewit.

live local, southampton says...
12:27am Wed 7 Nov 07

I think that IKEA will provide the needed WOW factor for the city.

wow look at the traffic queues! trying to get to IKEA. Wow look at the queues of people in IKEA being hearded cattlelike past items they do't want trying to find the ones they do. Wow look at the queue as people try to pay and found that have listed the ewerong item or ned to find it in the wharehouse. Wow look at the queue to move your car to the collection point and Wow look at the queue to get away fro IKEA as the road are kjammed by more lemmings trying to get in.

Is it true that if you translate IKEA from Sweedish to English it says MFI?

DJ Red, Southampton City Centre says...
1:13am Wed 7 Nov 07

This is FANTASTIC news for Southampton. As a resident of the city centre i have to say i'm extremely happy that Ikea tried numerous times to open a store here and have succeeded. Its no secret that many people from the south journey to Croyden or Lakeside for their furniture. Ikea is a modern, forward looking company and the kind of iconic brand we need here, the capital of the South.

Thank you City Council, for once you've made the correct decision, hopefully soon we'll get a Nandos too, then my cup will truly runneth over!!!

Adrian Smith, says...
3:10am Wed 7 Nov 07

"It will create 500 jobs for the local economy".

Shouldn't that read "The store will employ 500 people"?

John, Sydenham says...
4:33am Wed 7 Nov 07

Adrian Smith wrote:
"It will create 500 jobs for the local economy".

Shouldn't that read "The store will employ 500 people"?
What it means is that it will create 500 unskilled, part-time, minimum wage jobs for the Eastern European economy.

mandy, Winchester says...
6:28am Wed 7 Nov 07

Wonderful news, will save me travelling to Bristol. When is is opening ?

Bigtone, Poole says...
6:55am Wed 7 Nov 07

Well done Southampton city Council.
I will be one of the many visiting your Ikea when it opens and spending my hard earned cash within your local economy.

Jon Stallard, Bitterne says...
7:36am Wed 7 Nov 07

My personal carbon footprint will be much reduced now I don't have to travel the country to go to an IKEA. In fact, I bet IKEA will do a cheap flatpack carbon footprint in a lovely mauve colour, just for those of us that no longer have to drive the nations motorways:)

Daz, Southampton says...
7:56am Wed 7 Nov 07

Absolutely absurb ! What a crazy decision one moment the council are trying to stop people from using thier vehicle in the town centre the next minute a flat pack haven that needs larger vehicles to get the purchases home! I suppose they want to get all excited about the fact they have "created" 500 jobs ? 500 minimum wage jobs which will probably attrach even more eastern european labour into the already densely over populated area. I also understand that Ikea have to put in another lane exiting from the site ? Um, how ? where ? Are they going to get rid of (a) the central reservation which may give enough room for half a lane ? or (b) get rid of the service road to West Quay Industrial estate ? This city is already at almost gridlock during the weekends and many other week during the year.
The amazing thing is that this is still technically an "out of town" development. If you take a look at the local plan in the civic, i believe that the "town centre" falls short of the Pirelli site, thus more proof that this could have been sited at Millbrook!.
IMHO this seems like another short sighted desicion by SS councilors full of self importance and desperate
to have thier names in the history book of the "councillors that changed the look of Southampton".
Maybe thier next move will be to put a tesco express in the middle of the common !!!

Nothing changes, Southampton says...
8:05am Wed 7 Nov 07

Oh dear welcome to traffic hell! This IS going to be a nightmare, no 2 ways about it. Once all the pikeys who seem to love IKEA for some reason get over their unjustified excitement then everyone will see the major disadvantages. It'll soon be quicker to drive to one of the South's other good shopping destinations... Guildford, Basingstoke, Reading and (soon) Pompey!

george melrose, lordshill says...
8:10am Wed 7 Nov 07

TO John, Sydenham. You got that right.
(Maybe thier next move will be to put a Tesco Express in the middle of the common) For crying out loud Daz, don't give those Tory muppets ideas.

COYR, says...
8:13am Wed 7 Nov 07

never mind Ikea, what about more strip clubs and brothels?

Simon Templar, Southampton says...
8:28am Wed 7 Nov 07

Well, it's taken 7 years to get this far to don't hold your breath being able to get through the door until 2014.

toxteth o'grady, ston says...
8:28am Wed 7 Nov 07

NOT HAPPY wrote:
THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR CITY THERE IS TOO MUCH CONGESTION IN SOUTHAMPTON AS IT IS WITHOUT THE MASSES FLOCKING IN IN THEIR 4 X 4S THIS CITY NEEDS THE WOW FACTOR LIKE AN ice rink
Gosport has an Ice Rink but I dont think Gosport has a wow factor do you ?????

One way system now, says...
8:50am Wed 7 Nov 07

The traffic problems could be partly addressed by having a one-way system through part of the city, so that we have 4 lanes going in the same direction rather than 2 sets of traffic with multiple traffic lights constantly stopping and starting it all.

Nick Haynes, StDenys says...
8:53am Wed 7 Nov 07

I love IKEA stuff and visit them often but I think the positioning of this store is totally inept. I will no longer be able to make a quick visit to the town center and will have to shop and bank elsewhere. The people visiting IKEA will pack their car and go. It will be a a net sum loss for the city of Southampton.

Bob, Upper Shirley says...
9:10am Wed 7 Nov 07

Fantastic news! More low paid employees. After all why would we try and create employment to keep the thousands of graduates from our universities if we can use the available land to build more shops for the benefit of southern England's shoppers! At least the developers/Ikea are proposing to build an attractive building!

Emma Lewis, Southampton says...
9:18am Wed 7 Nov 07

At long bl*ody last!!!! This will be fantastic news for the city. I am sick of making a 3hr round trip to Bristol so it will be fab to be able to just nip into town. It will also bring more people into the city centre so retailers should win all round! :O)

AGOG, Sitting Pretty says...
9:25am Wed 7 Nov 07

toxteth o'grady wrote:
NOT HAPPY wrote: THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR CITY THERE IS TOO MUCH CONGESTION IN SOUTHAMPTON AS IT IS WITHOUT THE MASSES FLOCKING IN IN THEIR 4 X 4S THIS CITY NEEDS THE WOW FACTOR LIKE AN ice rink
Gosport has an Ice Rink but I dont think Gosport has a wow factor do you ?????
Every time I've been to Gosport, I've Said; "Wow, What a sh*t tip....!

Nothing changes, Southampton says...
9:26am Wed 7 Nov 07

Emma Lewis wrote:
At long bl*ody last!!!! This will be fantastic news for the city. I am sick of making a 3hr round trip to Bristol so it will be fab to be able to just nip into town. It will also bring more people into the city centre so retailers should win all round! :O)
All those people will be stuck in traffic and will get p!ssed off, turn round and go elsewhere so Southampton is going to lose long term. But people are so focussed on the fact they don't have to travel 3 hours to get their precious furniture they're not thinking clearly! IKEA is just hype, it *is* MFI with a different name but people believe the hype and think it's amazing. Tbh if you want tacky, cheap looking furniture in your house then that's your choice!

bob musker, city centre says...
9:34am Wed 7 Nov 07

Traffic Gridlock !!

There is only one thing which causes the gridlock in Southampton and that is the rash of traffic lights that we have.
Yesterday the lights at the top of Commercial Road were broken during rush hour - there were no queues, no angry drivers and no accidents - turn them all off and welcome with open arms anyone who is prepared to invest in our city

Simon, Romsey says...
9:36am Wed 7 Nov 07

Nothing changes wrote:
Emma Lewis wrote: At long bl*ody last!!!! This will be fantastic news for the city. I am sick of making a 3hr round trip to Bristol so it will be fab to be able to just nip into town. It will also bring more people into the city centre so retailers should win all round! :O)
All those people will be stuck in traffic and will get p!ssed off, turn round and go elsewhere so Southampton is going to lose long term. But people are so focussed on the fact they don't have to travel 3 hours to get their precious furniture they're not thinking clearly! IKEA is just hype, it *is* MFI with a different name but people believe the hype and think it's amazing. Tbh if you want tacky, cheap looking furniture in your house then that's your choice!
You haven't been to a Ikea have you.

Its cheap... certainly not tacky.

Have a look. You'll be amazed.

Nothing changes, Southampton says...
9:59am Wed 7 Nov 07

"You haven't been to a Ikea have you.

Its cheap... certainly not tacky.

Have a look. You'll be amazed."


Yeah I have actually! It's ok, nothing special though.

It's mad, it's like IKEA is a religion or cult or something. If peoples lives are so empty this is the highlight of it then fair play to you. Once IKEA is more widespread in the UK and becomes the norm like MFI or B&Q then things will change.

But you do realise you can get the same 'level' of furniture from places already in Southampton or nearby.

Caz, Bitterne Park says...
10:15am Wed 7 Nov 07

It's interesting to read all the comments in respect of this story and the way that people's opinions of this project vary. Everybody poses valid points in their own way. This project has it's good points and it's bad points. Whilst agreeing with all the bad points of traffic, etc, etc, it is hopefully going to be a major player in Southampton's recovery as 'one' of the top retail destinations in the South. Hopefully, when it arrives, other businesses will as well - filling the empty units in West Quay, Bargate, etc. The initial period after it opens will be hell on the roads but we can only hope that this will get better once the initial 'honeymoon' period has worn off. As it stands at the moment, Southampton is in decline, with vast areas of land laying derelict. People complain that the city has no 'WOW' factor, that it not a pleasant place to shop, etc, etc, but when a project comes along that could actually boost the City, there is nothing but objections and concerns. Every project carries these but all I would say, is give this City a chance to recover!

Roger, Bitterne Park says...
10:37am Wed 7 Nov 07

I find it amusing that Hammerson, the owners of West Quay, withdrew their objection to the development after IKEA signed a deal to construct a walkway between the two. What happened to the objection because of too much traffic? They obviously meant too much traffic away from them!

Two-quid an hour, says...
10:45am Wed 7 Nov 07

Roger wrote:
I find it amusing that Hammerson, the owners of West Quay, withdrew their objection to the development after IKEA signed a deal to construct a walkway between the two. What happened to the objection because of too much traffic? They obviously meant too much traffic away from them!
And people will still be 'able' to park in their £££ car park when the Ikea car park is full. So even if people don't shop in their tenants' shops, the landlord of West Quay will still make some money.

Sue Bench, Winchester says...
10:58am Wed 7 Nov 07

Could anyone please give me some advice as to how to give CPR as my husband has keeled over at the thought of his bank account dwindling rapidly when IKEA comes to Southampton? Thank goodness for city planners coming up trumps twice in as many days, first Bon Jovi, now this, I am a VERY happy bunny!!!

shopper, southampton says...
11:02am Wed 7 Nov 07

Flatpack wrote:
NOT HAPPY wrote: THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR CITY THERE IS TOO MUCH CONGESTION IN SOUTHAMPTON AS IT IS WITHOUT THE MASSES FLOCKING IN IN THEIR 4 X 4S THIS CITY NEEDS THE WOW FACTOR LIKE AN ice rink
Why does every story have to get hijacked by those boring, stuck-records bleating on about bloody ice-rinks? You are in the minority; we don\'t want an ice-rink, we don\'t need an ice-rink and we don\'t want to hear you harping on about bloody ice-rinks all the time. Get the message? If it was a popular choice, and if it was commercially viable, we would have one. It\'s not, it isn\'t, live with it. Anyhoo...I\'m sure there are reasons why Ikea isn\'t being built out of town. A previous poster mentioned about planning regs. meant that it had to be centrally located. Not sure. The wife will be pleased with Ikea being built, but I\'m yet to be convinced about the parking and congestion issue. I have heard plausible arguments about Ikea being open late, 7 days a week etc, in the hope that shoppers won\'t all flock on a Saturday morning, but there\'s nowt as queer as folk, and I bet they turn up in their droves. Likewise, the calls for park & drive (sensible idea, but where do you put it) and suggestions that the store is centrally located so that shoppers from far afield can catch the train, are impractical, unless you\'re just buying meatballs and not a flat-pack kitchen. I\'m pleased Ikea is coming; boost for the local economy and profile. Am happy to reserve judgement on the traffic until it\'s built. Surely the planners and Ikea have taken this into consideration. Here\'s hoping...
well if the ice rink keeps comming up then the people want one!!!!

Simon, Romsey says...
11:11am Wed 7 Nov 07

Nothing changes wrote:
"You haven't been to a Ikea have you. Its cheap... certainly not tacky. Have a look. You'll be amazed." Yeah I have actually! It's ok, nothing special though. It's mad, it's like IKEA is a religion or cult or something. If peoples lives are so empty this is the highlight of it then fair play to you. Once IKEA is more widespread in the UK and becomes the norm like MFI or B&Q then things will change. But you do realise you can get the same 'level' of furniture from places already in Southampton or nearby.
Actually.. i don't think you can.

Why else do you think the majority of people have stated that Ikea is a good thing for Southampton?

Ian, Southampton says...
11:16am Wed 7 Nov 07

Well, well, this has got to be the most ludicrous decision this council have made since the siting of the new football stadium. Goodbye any chance of getting anywhere in the city on a Saturday, especially if the football is on.

We should be trying to reduce the amount of traffic in the city - not increasing it. All we'll get now is a non moving stream of 4x4s and vans on roads that are barely able to manage the current levels of traffic.

That coupled with a riduclously underpriced car park for west quay means that everyone in Southampton, and the surrounding country, can come and spend a day in the city making life miserable for the residents - why not that would be fun!

Totally insane

Backhanded compliments, says...
11:16am Wed 7 Nov 07

Actually.. i don't think you can.

Why else do you think the majority of people have stated that Ikea is a good thing for Southampton?

I can see the many draw backs of Ikea in this location, but I welcome the competition to the other furniture chains that we have on offer in Southampton. I'm not talking about the smaller shops, or homewares within department stores. I'm talking about the Sofa and Bed stores dotted around the motorway junctions, with their endless 'sales' events, and the pushy salespeople offering rubbish at high prices. They sell a lot of grotesque, old fashioned, and expensive tat. I'd rather buy flimsy, modern, cheap stuff instead.

John, Southampton says...
11:22am Wed 7 Nov 07

im for one are happy that ikea is being built in Southampton as it is a major attraction of a shop and is much needed...but we can not get away from the traffic problem that already happens down that area and will only get much worse...haha,could you imagine what boat show week will be like,saints playing at home and the arrival of an IOW ferry...total standstill

Simon, Romsey says...
11:22am Wed 7 Nov 07

Ian wrote:
Well, well, this has got to be the most ludicrous decision this council have made since the siting of the new football stadium. Goodbye any chance of getting anywhere in the city on a Saturday, especially if the football is on. We should be trying to reduce the amount of traffic in the city - not increasing it. All we'll get now is a non moving stream of 4x4s and vans on roads that are barely able to manage the current levels of traffic. That coupled with a riduclously underpriced car park for west quay means that everyone in Southampton, and the surrounding country, can come and spend a day in the city making life miserable for the residents - why not that would be fun! Totally insane
If you don't like it... simple solution is move.

Or shop in Wincherster.

Making this city buzzing and alive is a good thing. Whats so insane about that?

Plus you're playing up the traffic problem a bit. Its not that bad. I've driven into town on match days, and if you're not there for the football.. plan your trip not to coincide with kick-off or after the game.

Lynda, Southampton says...
11:24am Wed 7 Nov 07

Great news - can't wait for it to open. I refuse to travel to either Bristol or London to visit Ikea. Any saving is wiped out in fuel to get there and the time taken to do the round trip, so having one in the local area will be good.

Nigel Wakefield, Southampton says...
11:42am Wed 7 Nov 07

To all that deride the quality/value of IKEA, I shopped around extensively for our wardrobes, and assumed that as IKEA was cheap it would compromise on quality. All the draws have metal runners, the wood is sturdy and has quality oak veneer (unlike MFI). I'm 100% satisfied with the product, and looking forward to a shorter trip - but surely Hedge End would have been more appropriate!!!

I'm happy that I won't

Alpine Saint, says...
11:59am Wed 7 Nov 07

Is he a CB

Alpine Saint, Austria says...
12:08pm Wed 7 Nov 07

I'm a big fan of Ikea even though I've never actually been and even though this is good news for Southampton I'm going to have to moan about it, ffs!

I blame George Burley because he granted the planning permission. Burley out!!

Prowler, C/F says...
12:10pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Ikea on-line, Delivering to the southcoast soon, Stuff ya traffic jams

steve, Bitterne says...
12:47pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Adrian Smith wrote:
\\\"It will create 500 jobs for the local economy\\\". Shouldn\\\'t that read \\\"The store will employ 500 people\\\"?
Should that not be 500 jobs for immigrants, get the lazy sods off of incapacity benefit instead. Also all those people moanning about the location have a go at the Goverment, the store always want to go further out of town but some idiot in the civil service decided that it should be in the centre of town thus not being prejudice against those only having local transport to use. How the hell is someone using the bus going to carry a flat pack kitchen or we will have special Ikea buses. The location is not good but at least its here and not in Portsmouth.

Paul Redknapp-French, P*rtsmouth says...
12:54pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Brilliant news. I will start with 5 plates of meatballs, then build up over time to perhaps 6 or 7. I am so happy!!!

Paul Redknapp-French, P*rtsmouth says...
12:55pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Smashing, super, great! When can I get hold of their meatballs?
To be frank, I don't care about your city or the environment; I just need food. NOW.

Micheal West, Southampotn says...
1:07pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Great! another eye-sore in Southampton, or should that be i(kea)sore. And 500 mcjobs to go with it, Can't wait.

Rob, UK says...
1:16pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Micheal West wrote:
Great! another eye-sore in Southampton, or should that be i(kea)sore. And 500 mcjobs to go with it, Can't wait.
I can assure you that it won't be 500 Mcjobs, they won't be unskilled jobs, training and development of co-workers is paramount to the success of the company.
I am proud to work for IKEA as it puts people first - whether customers, co-workers or suppliers unlike other PLC companies I have worked for throughout my 15 years of working life.
I hope that you take the time to investigate the company and its values so you will be able to make a form a more informed opinion.

Banker, says...
1:28pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Brilliant. Goodbye, last remaining hopes of ever being able to drive through Southampton, or find a parking space. Time to relocate, methinks

Kendo Nagasaki, World of Sport says...
1:37pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Daz wrote:
Absolutely absurb ! What a crazy decision one moment the council are trying to stop people from using thier vehicle in the town centre the next minute a flat pack haven that needs larger vehicles to get the purchases home! I suppose they want to get all excited about the fact they have "created" 500 jobs ? 500 minimum wage jobs which will probably attrach even more eastern european labour into the already densely over populated area. I also understand that Ikea have to put in another lane exiting from the site ? Um, how ? where ? Are they going to get rid of (a) the central reservation which may give enough room for half a lane ? or (b) get rid of the service road to West Quay Industrial estate ? This city is already at almost gridlock during the weekends and many other week during the year. The amazing thing is that this is still technically an "out of town" development. If you take a look at the local plan in the civic, i believe that the "town centre" falls short of the Pirelli site, thus more proof that this could have been sited at Millbrook!. IMHO this seems like another short sighted desicion by SS councilors full of self importance and desperate to have thier names in the history book of the "councillors that changed the look of Southampton". Maybe thier next move will be to put a tesco express in the middle of the common !!!
500 jobs that enthusiastic willing hard working Eastern European people are happy to do as they won't be taken by lazy, low life, chav sponging southerners

John Westwood smells, Southampton says...
1:43pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Paul Redknapp-French wrote:
Brilliant news. I will start with 5 plates of meatballs, then build up over time to perhaps 6 or 7. I am so happy!!!
Go and shop at The Tricorn! At least in The Championship we don't have to put up with you low life pikey chavs trashing our city each year

Sten Sationalism, says...
1:50pm Wed 7 Nov 07

John Westwood smells wrote:
Paul Redknapp-French wrote:
Brilliant news. I will start with 5 plates of meatballs, then build up
over time to perhaps 6 or 7. I am so happy!!!
Go and shop at
The Tricorn! At least in The Championship we don't have to put up with
you low life pikey chavs trashing our city each year
That's true. We have our own low life pikey chavs to do it on their behalf. Seriously, idiot, does football have to come into everything? What a clown

PokerPlayer, Southampton says...
1:52pm Wed 7 Nov 07

How can people get so excited about a furniture shop? The big problem is that traffic congestion will increase. A 15% increase as suggested seems innocuous but masks the fact that this could be the critical amount that finally causes gridlock. Any small increase in traffic will have a disproportunate affect on congestion because the roads are already jammed - far too many traffic lights being one of the main problems.

A Reader, Southampton says...
2:05pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Banker wrote:
Brilliant. Goodbye, last remaining hopes of ever being able to drive through Southampton, or find a parking space. Time to relocate, methinks
Get the bus. Get the train.

Why do you all have to drive through Southampton?

Can't you lazy gits drive around Southampton instead?

Jenny, Netley Abbey says...
2:14pm Wed 7 Nov 07

An Ikea in Southampton is great news, now how's about an Ice Rink?

Banker, says...
2:16pm Wed 7 Nov 07

A Reader wrote:
Banker wrote:
Brilliant. Goodbye, last remaining hopes of ever being able to drive
through Southampton, or find a parking space. Time to relocate,
methinks
Get the bus. Get the train. Why do you all have to
drive through Southampton?
Can't you lazy gits drive around Southampton instead?
*sigh* stock responses, eh. Where would we be without them?

Why do you assume that everyone other than Ikea customers can just get the bus, or the train, and is lazy? There are miriad legitimate reasons to have to drive to the centre of Southampton, only one of them is "to be dragged around another bl00dy furniture shop by a moaning woman on a Saturday morning before spending my money on rubbishy furniture that looks just like everyone elses rubbishy furniture that we still have to put together ourselves".

The residents of Southampton have a perfect right to expect to be able to drive through it. Why do Ikea customers suddenly take precedence? Why can't they get the bus, or the train, or drive around Southampton instead? What a bizarre argument, my friend

Waiting, says...
2:32pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Bye bye banker

wooohoo, soton says...
2:40pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Ikea coming to town? Woohoooooo Get in there!! Can't wait to spend my pennies in there!! wooohooo!

Richard Knox, Southampton says...
2:45pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Have i missed something here or are people really living such boring unfullfilled lives that mass hysteria comes about from the prospect of visiting a furniture / diy shop....

A Reader, Southampton says...
2:48pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Goodbye Banker!! Hoorrah!

Welcome Ikea!! Hoorrah!

You didn't state you a purpose for driving into southampton... cept just to drive "through" it. I was merely pointing out the flaw in your sentence... Mr Banker my friend.

GL, Hants says...
3:02pm Wed 7 Nov 07

IKEA's okay, but not as great as some people making comments would have others believe.

I live on the edge of Southampton and already prefer Portsmouth, Bournemouth and Salisbury to Southampton.

IKEA won't make me visit Southampton any more, but an increase in crowds and traffic would certainly make me less inclined to take the short drive into the city centre.

GL, Hants says...
3:12pm Wed 7 Nov 07

PS: Before the environmentalists accuse me of taking a "short drive" into the city, I do sometime cycle and have even walked. For bigger shopping trips the car has to be used, but it is low emission etc. so I'm still trying to do my bit.

mo, soton says...
3:28pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Lets see how the Ikea shoppers enjoy it when *they* are the ones who are stuck trying to come out of the junction for ages and also stuck for ages on the way home.

In town there are already soem fairly long waits to get onto Millbrook/West Quay road at certain points (especially the one into the retail aprt/mcdonalds) so I can only imagine this will make it miels worse.

A Shopper, Romsey says...
3:30pm Wed 7 Nov 07

mo wrote:
Lets see how the Ikea shoppers enjoy it when *they* are the ones who are stuck trying to come out of the junction for ages and also stuck for ages on the way home. In town there are already soem fairly long waits to get onto Millbrook/West Quay road at certain points (especially the one into the retail aprt/mcdonalds) so I can only imagine this will make it miels worse.
Yes... those times are called "rush hour".

Will happen everyday, no matter if Ikea is there or not.

Gump, says...
3:31pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Jenny wrote:
An Ikea in Southampton is great news, now how's about an Ice Rink?
Oh do f**k off. Get the message love, we don't need or want one. Stop banging on about bloody ice-rinks.

Flatpack, says...
3:40pm Wed 7 Nov 07

shopper wrote:
Flatpack wrote:
NOT HAPPY wrote: THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHAMPTON DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR CITY THERE IS TOO MUCH CONGESTION IN SOUTHAMPTON AS IT IS WITHOUT THE MASSES FLOCKING IN IN THEIR 4 X 4S THIS CITY NEEDS THE WOW FACTOR LIKE AN ice rink
Why does every story have to get hijacked by those boring, stuck-records bleating on about bloody ice-rinks? You are in the minority; we don\'t want an ice-rink, we don\'t need an ice-rink and we don\'t want to hear you harping on about bloody ice-rinks all the time. Get the message? If it was a popular choice, and if it was commercially viable, we would have one. It\'s not, it isn\'t, live with it. Anyhoo...I\'m sure there are reasons why Ikea isn\'t being built out of town. A previous poster mentioned about planning regs. meant that it had to be centrally located. Not sure. The wife will be pleased with Ikea being built, but I\'m yet to be convinced about the parking and congestion issue. I have heard plausible arguments about Ikea being open late, 7 days a week etc, in the hope that shoppers won\'t all flock on a Saturday morning, but there\'s nowt as queer as folk, and I bet they turn up in their droves. Likewise, the calls for park & drive (sensible idea, but where do you put it) and suggestions that the store is centrally located so that shoppers from far afield can catch the train, are impractical, unless you\'re just buying meatballs and not a flat-pack kitchen. I\'m pleased Ikea is coming; boost for the local economy and profile. Am happy to reserve judgement on the traffic until it\'s built. Surely the planners and Ikea have taken this into consideration. Here\'s hoping...
well if the ice rink keeps comming up then the people want one!!!!
Missed the point entirely. "The People" aren't bringing it up, it's a small handful of bores who can't accept that they're the only one's interested, and that it isn't commercially viable.

Dr Stranglelove, says...
3:48pm Wed 7 Nov 07

A Shopper wrote:
mo wrote: Lets see how the Ikea shoppers enjoy it when *they* are the ones who are stuck trying to come out of the junction for ages and also stuck for ages on the way home. In town there are already soem fairly long waits to get onto Millbrook/West Quay road at certain points (especially the one into the retail aprt/mcdonalds) so I can only imagine this will make it miels worse.
Yes... those times are called \"rush hour\". Will happen everyday, no matter if Ikea is there or not.
'rush hour'? all day on a Saturday and Sunday I don't think so. Oh but it doesn't affect you does it as you live in Romsey.

jimbo, Southampton says...
4:07pm Wed 7 Nov 07

The permanent ice rink will happen! The Council are set on it. I can't say I am into skating, having never tried, but I am sure it will have some nice cafes with some nice views and decent family safe social opportunities. Much needed in this city.

A Shopper, Romsey says...
4:13pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Dr Stranglelove wrote:
A Shopper wrote:
mo wrote: Lets see how the Ikea shoppers enjoy it when *they* are the ones who are stuck trying to come out of the junction for ages and also stuck for ages on the way home. In town there are already soem fairly long waits to get onto Millbrook/West Quay road at certain points (especially the one into the retail aprt/mcdonalds) so I can only imagine this will make it miels worse.
Yes... those times are called \\\"rush hour\\\". Will happen everyday, no matter if Ikea is there or not.
\'rush hour\'? all day on a Saturday and Sunday I don\'t think so. Oh but it doesn\'t affect you does it as you live in Romsey.
ALL day on a Saturday and ALL day Sunday?

Really? ALL day?

And yes it does affect me... i actually prefer shopping in Southampton than portsmouth, salisbury or bournemouth!

But i've yet to encounter gridlock roads ALL day on Saturday and ALL day on Sundays.

Fred, Bristol says...
4:38pm Wed 7 Nov 07

I live in Bristol and I believe this is good news for Southampton, IKEA here brings in people from all over the country and these people visit the town centre spending their money.

This of course brings in money to the city which should be used to provide other amenities such as the "will be busy to begin with, but the excitement will soon fade" Ice Rink.

Not to mention the cheap hot dogs (where else can you get a good size american hot dog and a proper coke for £1.50????)

Soho Saint, Southampton says...
4:41pm Wed 7 Nov 07

I can bearly wait. Ikea on our door step. What an opportunity to have all that furniture, which looks great in the catalogue but is absolute garbage in terms of quality, within easy reach. The dump at Marchwood will be so busy. I bet nobody can find a piece of Ikea furniture which will one day be an antique. Wake up! buy cheap - get rubbish. Spend a little extra and try and buy something decent. If you can't wait for Ikea, you must be a complete loser. Should have been an ice rink.

A Reader, Romsey says...
4:51pm Wed 7 Nov 07

They should down-size the saints stadium... they don't need such a large ground for being in the championship!

And make use of that ground for an ICE RINK!

Dan the Man, Shirley says...
4:53pm Wed 7 Nov 07

It's just a furniture store. How can that be a wow factor for Southampton? But nice to see the city on the mend a little bit.

Duck Man, Totton says...
4:58pm Wed 7 Nov 07

COYR wrote:
never mind Ikea, what about more strip clubs and brothels?
Fantastic - it's now going to take an hour to get out of West Quay on a good day. Can't wait to buy cheap furniture which falls apart and eat some 99p non-meat meatballs.

Simon, says...
5:03pm Wed 7 Nov 07

I'm still at a loss to all the fuss about traffic... What do people expect of city traffic? Three cars before them at the traffic lights? Only their car at the lights? No traffic lights at all because they are the only people ever on the city roads? What is acceptable levels of traffic and who has the right to determine that and give a definitive answer on that?

As far as I'm aware population had been growing through the ages, and traffic gets worse as more and more cars are bought.

The only way Southampton roads are going to free up is if people are discouraged from visiting and living there. That is just not going to happen. If you can't beat them...

Paul Redknapp-French, P*rtsmouth says...
5:14pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Duck Man wrote:
COYR wrote: never mind Ikea, what about more strip clubs and brothels?
Fantastic - it's now going to take an hour to get out of West Quay on a good day. Can't wait to buy cheap furniture which falls apart and eat some 99p non-meat meatballs.
What are you talking about, non-meat meatballs?? The meatballs are very meaty, as meaty as meaty meatballs should be.

Richie, Southampton says...
5:18pm Wed 7 Nov 07

It is great news that IKEA are coming to Southampton,but until the work begins i can still see many objectors trying to make it as difficult as possible for all involved.They say work will start in February, but maybe not February 2008

Richie, Southampton says...
5:19pm Wed 7 Nov 07

It is great news that IKEA are coming to Southampton,but until the work begins i can still see many objectors trying to make it as difficult as possible for all involved.They say work will start in February, but maybe not February 2008

mo, soton says...
5:21pm Wed 7 Nov 07

There might not be traffic ALL DAY on Saturday and Sunday but there is for large parts of the day (i.e when most people are trying to go shopping)

Secondly, we are a growing city and traffic will get worse but Ikea alone will probably add more traffic when it opens than we would have gotten naturally over a very large number of years.

The sudden inflxu of peopel from Outside of the city (yes, peopel from Pompey!) will bring the roads to a grinding halt in some parts of town.

A Shopper, Romsey says...
5:25pm Wed 7 Nov 07

And for all those complaining about finding a parking space.... it will have a 891 space multi-storey car park.

Also, whilst we're talking about parking can all you tight-wads who park outside furniture village etc but actually shop in West Quay park in West Quay!!!! Just to avoid paying a couple of quid parking!!!

Makes me angry... grr grr.

A Shopper, Romsey says...
5:27pm Wed 7 Nov 07

mo wrote:
There might not be traffic ALL DAY on Saturday and Sunday but there is for large parts of the day (i.e when most people are trying to go shopping) Secondly, we are a growing city and traffic will get worse but Ikea alone will probably add more traffic when it opens than we would have gotten naturally over a very large number of years. The sudden inflxu of peopel from Outside of the city (yes, peopel from Pompey!) will bring the roads to a grinding halt in some parts of town.
Ah.. we're getting somewhere now.

You hate people from portsmouth.

Can we have an Ikea if we ban people from portsmouth? Will that make you happy?

Sir Mix-A-Lot, Southampton says...
5:30pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Hopefully although those who are say8ing it is time to move away will prove they walk the walk rather than just talking the talk and actually sod off and take their moaning with them...

Mona Lisa, UK says...
5:31pm Wed 7 Nov 07

John wrote:
Adrian Smith wrote:
"It will create 500 jobs for the local economy".

Shouldn't that read "The store will employ 500 people"?
What it means is that it will create 500 unskilled, part-time, minimum wage jobs for the Eastern European economy.
Yes and right next to where they all come in ...... the coach station!!!

Gaz, Southampton says...
5:44pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Great news about IKEA !!!! NOW lets have a PARK & RIDE and Bus Station. If winchester (P&R/ Bus station) & Eastleigh (Bus Station) can do it Then Southampton can !! may attract even more shoppers etc with a decent Public transport system and cut city congestion.

David, Southampton says...
5:50pm Wed 7 Nov 07

A Shopper wrote:
Dr Stranglelove wrote:
A Shopper wrote:
mo wrote: Lets see how the Ikea shoppers enjoy it when *they* are the ones who are stuck trying to come out of the junction for ages and also stuck for ages on the way home. In town there are already soem fairly long waits to get onto Millbrook/West Quay road at certain points (especially the one into the retail aprt/mcdonalds) so I can only imagine this will make it miels worse.
Yes... those times are called \\\"rush hour\\\". Will happen everyday, no matter if Ikea is there or not.
\'rush hour\'? all day on a Saturday and Sunday I don\'t think so. Oh but it doesn\'t affect you does it as you live in Romsey.
ALL day on a Saturday and ALL day Sunday? Really? ALL day? And yes it does affect me... i actually prefer shopping in Southampton than portsmouth, salisbury or bournemouth! But i've yet to encounter gridlock roads ALL day on Saturday and ALL day on Sundays.
"A Shopper" - you're wrong, but I wouldn;t expect you to admit it judging from your aloofness, nor would I expect you to actually know what the traffic is like in So'ton ALL day, given that you don't actually live there.

Yes, I have seen traffic queues ALL day on a Saturday and a Sunday, particularly at Christmas, end of school holidays etc. It isn't "rush hour", as that is typically weekdays before 9am and after 5pm - the traffic is far worse in So'ton than just being isolated to thise time frames and weekdays. Get your facts straight.

SummerLoving, Southampton says...
5:52pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Funny how a story about Ikea is turned into a rally for the support of an icerink!! Who cares about ice skating - it's a minority pastime. We don;t need it in Southampton, otherwise we'd have one. 3 or 4 comments of support on the Echo website is hardly an indication of the Southampton populace clamouring to get their skates on is it?! Don;t get too excited ladies!!

Top, says...
5:54pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Gaz wrote:
Great news about IKEA !!!! NOW lets have a PARK & RIDE and Bus Station. If winchester (P&R/ Bus station) & Eastleigh (Bus Station) can do it Then Southampton can !! may attract even more shoppers etc with a decent Public transport system and cut city congestion.
Well said that man.

Incredulous, says...
6:02pm Wed 7 Nov 07

jimbo wrote:
The permanent ice rink will happen! The Council are set on it. I can't say I am into skating, having never tried, but I am sure it will have some nice cafes with some nice views and decent family safe social opportunities. Much needed in this city.
Don't hold your breath Jimbo. Hardly a qualified endorsement though, having never tried. To be fair, your not missing much - guess that's why it's not that popular?! Ha! I really can't think of a more extravagent suggestion and waste of money than to build a ruddy great ice-rink that doesn't get used - but does a lovely cream-tea!! You've got to be joking! If you want a coffee, go to Starbucks! There are plenty of decent, family, safe social opportunities in this city; bowling, cinema, restaurants, swimming, art gallery, library, museums, parks, shops, theatre, cafes, city walks (views included). An icerink is not needed, commercially viable nor has it generated sufficient interest to be realistic.

Less moaning. That's much needed in this city.

Ricardo, Here says...
6:07pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Top wrote:
Gaz wrote:
Great news about IKEA !!!! NOW lets have a PARK & RIDE and Bus Station. If winchester (P&R/ Bus station) & Eastleigh (Bus Station) can do it Then Southampton can !! may attract even more shoppers etc with a decent Public transport system and cut city congestion.
Well said that man.
The way people keep carping on, you'd think Southampton was completely bereft of public transport! In fact, bus services are being cut back mainly becuase people a)dont use them, b) free pensioner travel is making the services unprofitable, and c) the council wont stump up the cash.

Perhaps if people used these services themselves, instead of expecting others to do so, things might get better!

Besides, how are ikea shoppers, laden with heavy flat pack furniture, expected to use the bus to get their wardrobe home?!?

Re Park and Ride, forget bus-based park and ride, think park and rail.

Use car park capacity at Southampton Airport Parkway (car parks, which are going to be expanded soon anyway, will be less-utilised at weekends when there are few commuters). One 5 minute train journey later and hey presto, you're at west quay. Going home, 5 minutes later and hey presto, you re at the car, ready to hit the M27!

And all this using existing resources!

Carp, Southampton says...
6:27pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Ricardo wrote:
Top wrote:
Gaz wrote: Great news about IKEA !!!! NOW lets have a PARK & RIDE and Bus Station. If winchester (P&R/ Bus station) & Eastleigh (Bus Station) can do it Then Southampton can !! may attract even more shoppers etc with a decent Public transport system and cut city congestion.
Well said that man.
The way people keep carping on, you'd think Southampton was completely bereft of public transport! In fact, bus services are being cut back mainly becuase people a)dont use them, b) free pensioner travel is making the services unprofitable, and c) the council wont stump up the cash. Perhaps if people used these services themselves, instead of expecting others to do so, things might get better! Besides, how are ikea shoppers, laden with heavy flat pack furniture, expected to use the bus to get their wardrobe home?!? Re Park and Ride, forget bus-based park and ride, think park and rail. Use car park capacity at Southampton Airport Parkway (car parks, which are going to be expanded soon anyway, will be less-utilised at weekends when there are few commuters). One 5 minute train journey later and hey presto, you're at west quay. Going home, 5 minutes later and hey presto, you re at the car, ready to hit the M27! And all this using existing resources!
You're a goddam genius! Hang on, no you're not....

1. People don't use public transport because it's expensive, over-crowded, unreliable, dirty, inconvenient etc.

2. Free pensioner travel isn't bankrupting bus companies! Buses aren't full up with the blue-rinse brigade such that no-one else can get on them. No-one else is using them anyway (see 1), it's just the old-timers using the buses because it's free.

How are Ikea shoppers laden with flatpack furniture expected to get the train then?

Regadless, if the public transport improved first, people would use it. It won't work the other way round while there is a cheaper, more convenient option i.e. car. People aren't going to inconvenience themselves in the vain hope that the council will suddenly notice the increased usage and increase the funding. The council, govt., bus and train companies have to be more proactive.

Park & Ride, Park & Rail - both good ideas. Ikea doesn't come into it. It's the same argument if I went to John Lewis to buy a TV, or Argos to buy a shelf unit - I'm going to drive, because it's impractical to get it on the bus or train. Park & Ride etc could work for most people on most journeys into Southampton.

wontee, soton says...
6:46pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Wow factor ?
Another shop !
The nation will be amazed.

Ricardo, Here says...
7:02pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Carp wrote:
Ricardo wrote:
Top wrote:
Gaz wrote: Great news about IKEA !!!! NOW lets have a PARK & RIDE and Bus Station. If winchester (P&R/ Bus station) & Eastleigh (Bus Station) can do it Then Southampton can !! may attract even more shoppers etc with a decent Public transport system and cut city congestion.
Well said that man.
The way people keep carping on, you\'d think Southampton was completely bereft of public transport! In fact, bus services are being cut back mainly becuase people a)dont use them, b) free pensioner travel is making the services unprofitable, and c) the council wont stump up the cash. Perhaps if people used these services themselves, instead of expecting others to do so, things might get better! Besides, how are ikea shoppers, laden with heavy flat pack furniture, expected to use the bus to get their wardrobe home?!? Re Park and Ride, forget bus-based park and ride, think park and rail. Use car park capacity at Southampton Airport Parkway (car parks, which are going to be expanded soon anyway, will be less-utilised at weekends when there are few commuters). One 5 minute train journey later and hey presto, you\'re at west quay. Going home, 5 minutes later and hey presto, you re at the car, ready to hit the M27! And all this using existing resources!
You\'re a goddam genius! Hang on, no you\'re not....

1. People don\'t use public transport because it\'s expensive, over-crowded, unreliable, dirty, inconvenient etc.

2. Free pensioner travel isn\'t bankrupting bus companies! Buses aren\'t full up with the blue-rinse brigade such that no-one else can get on them. No-one else is using them anyway (see 1), it\'s just the old-timers using the buses because it\'s free.

How are Ikea shoppers laden with flatpack furniture expected to get the train then?

Regadless, if the public transport improved first, people would use it. It won\'t work the other way round while there is a cheaper, more convenient option i.e. car. People aren\'t going to inconvenience themselves in the vain hope that the council will suddenly notice the increased usage and increase the funding. The council, govt., bus and train companies have to be more proactive.

Park & Ride, Park & Rail - both good ideas. Ikea doesn\'t come into it. It\'s the same argument if I went to John Lewis to buy a TV, or Argos to buy a shelf unit - I\'m going to drive, because it\'s impractical to get it on the bus or train. Park & Ride etc could work for most people on most journeys into Southampton.
Some of your points are good. Some of Southampton's bus services are not up to standard, but I point to the Uni-Link network as an example of an award-winning service that already exists. Prices on most other routes are actually not that bad compared to some otehr cities. Additionally I dont see how the local rail network, with the exception of the Portsmouth-Cardiff FGW route, can be described as being inadequate.

Re point 2, free pensioner travel IS causing bus companies significant problems. Local authorities are failing to recompense bus operators to "sustainable" levels for free pensioner travel, consequently less profitable/ unprofitable routes are being dropped. Additionally, on some routes, free pensioner travel is creating a squeeze on capacity for fare-paying customers.

As far as people with heavy items goes, I wouldnt really expect them to get the train either. Admittedly I didnt make that very clear. However, taht said, a decent regional-type train can carry a decent amount of baggage or other items that you'd struggle to get on a bus....

However what proportion of shoppers on a typical weekend are buying something so huge they cant carry it? Most probably less than 50%, possibly under 25%.....leaving a remaining 50-75% carrying no more than clothes or light goods who could quite easily use PT.

As far as park and ride goes, I would suggest park and rail from Southampton Airport because it provides a much better solution that is available immediately, using existing resources that would be under-utilised at weekends and outside the commuter peak.

All that would be needed would be marketing, promotion and a limited number of fairly small measures to make a very viable solution, with none of the setup costs, assets or infrastructure needed for a new build bus-based park and ride....

Carp, says...
7:37pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Ricardo wrote:
Carp wrote:
Ricardo wrote:
Top wrote:
Gaz wrote: Great news about IKEA !!!! NOW lets have a PARK & RIDE and Bus Station. If winchester (P&R/ Bus station) & Eastleigh (Bus Station) can do it Then Southampton can !! may attract even more shoppers etc with a decent Public transport system and cut city congestion.
Well said that man.
The way people keep carping on, you\'d think Southampton was completely bereft of public transport! In fact, bus services are being cut back mainly becuase people a)dont use them, b) free pensioner travel is making the services unprofitable, and c) the council wont stump up the cash. Perhaps if people used these services themselves, instead of expecting others to do so, things might get better! Besides, how are ikea shoppers, laden with heavy flat pack furniture, expected to use the bus to get their wardrobe home?!? Re Park and Ride, forget bus-based park and ride, think park and rail. Use car park capacity at Southampton Airport Parkway (car parks, which are going to be expanded soon anyway, will be less-utilised at weekends when there are few commuters). One 5 minute train journey later and hey presto, you\'re at west quay. Going home, 5 minutes later and hey presto, you re at the car, ready to hit the M27! And all this using existing resources!
You\'re a goddam genius! Hang on, no you\'re not.... 1. People don\'t use public transport because it\'s expensive, over-crowded, unreliable, dirty, inconvenient etc. 2. Free pensioner travel isn\'t bankrupting bus companies! Buses aren\'t full up with the blue-rinse brigade such that no-one else can get on them. No-one else is using them anyway (see 1), it\'s just the old-timers using the buses because it\'s free. How are Ikea shoppers laden with flatpack furniture expected to get the train then? Regadless, if the public transport improved first, people would use it. It won\'t work the other way round while there is a cheaper, more convenient option i.e. car. People aren\'t going to inconvenience themselves in the vain hope that the council will suddenly notice the increased usage and increase the funding. The council, govt., bus and train companies have to be more proactive. Park & Ride, Park & Rail - both good ideas. Ikea doesn\'t come into it. It\'s the same argument if I went to John Lewis to buy a TV, or Argos to buy a shelf unit - I\'m going to drive, because it\'s impractical to get it on the bus or train. Park & Ride etc could work for most people on most journeys into Southampton.
Some of your points are good. Some of Southampton's bus services are not up to standard, but I point to the Uni-Link network as an example of an award-winning service that already exists. Prices on most other routes are actually not that bad compared to some otehr cities. Additionally I dont see how the local rail network, with the exception of the Portsmouth-Cardiff FGW route, can be described as being inadequate. Re point 2, free pensioner travel IS causing bus companies significant problems. Local authorities are failing to recompense bus operators to "sustainable" levels for free pensioner travel, consequently less profitable/ unprofitable routes are being dropped. Additionally, on some routes, free pensioner travel is creating a squeeze on capacity for fare-paying customers. As far as people with heavy items goes, I wouldnt really expect them to get the train either. Admittedly I didnt make that very clear. However, taht said, a decent regional-type train can carry a decent amount of baggage or other items that you'd struggle to get on a bus.... However what proportion of shoppers on a typical weekend are buying something so huge they cant carry it? Most probably less than 50%, possibly under 25%.....leaving a remaining 50-75% carrying no more than clothes or light goods who could quite easily use PT. As far as park and ride goes, I would suggest park and rail from Southampton Airport because it provides a much better solution that is available immediately, using existing resources that would be under-utilised at weekends and outside the commuter peak. All that would be needed would be marketing, promotion and a limited number of fairly small measures to make a very viable solution, with none of the setup costs, assets or infrastructure needed for a new build bus-based park and ride....
Interesting reading. I do maintain that the cost of bus travel is expensive; increasing costs due to diminishing customers? I admit to having little experience elsewhere to compare, but is that entirely relevent? It's still expensive.

Re: trains. I suppose it depends what you mean by inadequate. The timetabled services are adequate, but the reality is that the trains are unreliable. My last two return journeys from Waterloo left me stranded at Micheldever and Eastleigh with no provision laid on to complete the rest of the journey, despite promised transfers.

I absolutely agree with you; only very few shoppers will find it impractical to us a train or bus to transport their purchases. Park & Ride/Park & Train have to be considered, moreso in light of the Ikea store. Park & Ride is more likely though, at least in the short term, while cars are still more popular than trains.

I think the costs of Park & Ride/Train would actually be quite comparable; ultimately there needs to be space to park cars, whether it be at a train station or a car park. The manner of getting into the city is the only difference. Neither should be too difficult other than to identify potential parking land. The difficulty with Park & Train is that the land has to be next to a train station.

Having said that, if there was land available, the Airport would be an ideal locatiion. Let's hope tha council have given this some consideration, eh?

mo, soton says...
7:39pm Wed 7 Nov 07

A Shopper wrote:
mo wrote:
There might not be traffic ALL DAY on Saturday and Sunday but there is for large parts of the day (i.e when most people are trying to go shopping) Secondly, we are a growing city and traffic will get worse but Ikea alone will probably add more traffic when it opens than we would have gotten naturally over a very large number of years. The sudden inflxu of peopel from Outside of the city (yes, peopel from Pompey!) will bring the roads to a grinding halt in some parts of town.
Ah.. we\'re getting somewhere now.

You hate people from portsmouth.

Can we have an Ikea if we ban people from portsmouth? Will that make you happy?
I am indifferent to the peopel of Portsmouth TBH but it gets mentioned alot here so I thought I woudl put an exclamation mark - the point is it will bring in peopel from all over the South not just more peopel who already lvie in Soton.

Its a disaster waiting to happen.


shopper, southampton says...
7:47pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Andy wrote:
For nigh on 20 years I've been going up the M3/M25 to get my furniture. All the while I've asked IKEA, when are they coming to Southampton? They've always answered that they really want to, but keep getting turned down. Well at last it's going to be here. No more long trips. Brilliant!
Surely by now you must have bought everything from ikea!!!! or has it worn out already!?

RT, Southampton says...
7:48pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Ikea is a very good store but unfortunately it is totally impractical from a traffic point of view to locate near a City Centre where Saturday congestion is already extreme.

I have previously lived near the Walsall Ikea Store which, whilst out of town, causes incredible caos at the slip roads from the M6.

The projected caos along Wesr Quay Road is frightening with all the cars and coaches requiring to cross the road on entry or exit and which just cannot be accommodated. Your correspondents have sensibly suggested that the only solution is to close West Quay Road on Saturdays and provide a Park and Ride sceme. No doubt the Planning Panel have already considered this option as they have also considered other options having visited the other Ikea sites. We await their proposed solutions but in the meantime the Panel have a duty to inform the local commercial premises such as the car sale showrooms adjacent West Quay Road, the adjacent West Quay Mall,etc that without a Park and Ride Scheme future trading on Saterdays may not be viable in the future.

Typical Southampton Resident, Southampton says...
8:05pm Wed 7 Nov 07

How dare the council give permission for something to be built in Southampton which will attract people to the city!

All these unnecessary car journeys to Ikea by ‘other people’ will cause more traffic which will affect MY car journeys.

As a Southampton resident I have a god given right to drive to the city as and when I chose and not encounter any other traffic what so ever as my journeys are necessary and cannot be made by any other means of transport as it would just not be practical.

The council should only give permission for developments in Southampton that attract no-one or better still, repel people from the city. Then I can drive my car in and around the city all day long and never encounter any traffic what so ever.

Despite the fact that the majority of the car-driving population pay their car/council tax, the roads in and around Southampton are MINE and therefore I have more right to use them than anyone else.

gorf, soton says...
8:11pm Wed 7 Nov 07

hope they plan to upgrade the bus/coach/train facilities etc

oh and a park and ride

mo, soton says...
8:16pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Typical Southampton Resident wrote:
How dare the council give permission for something to be built in Southampton which will attract people to the city!

All these unnecessary car journeys to Ikea by ‘other people’ will cause more traffic which will affect MY car journeys.

As a Southampton resident I have a god given right to drive to the city as and when I chose and not encounter any other traffic what so ever as my journeys are necessary and cannot be made by any other means of transport as it would just not be practical.

The council should only give permission for developments in Southampton that attract no-one or better still, repel people from the city. Then I can drive my car in and around the city all day long and never encounter any traffic what so ever.

Despite the fact that the majority of the car-driving population pay their car/council tax, the roads in and around Southampton are MINE and therefore I have more right to use them than anyone else.
Best post all night - you should have told the council.

You have a COUPLE of flaws in your reasoning but overall you are spot on :D

john, pompey says...
8:16pm Wed 7 Nov 07

you freaks keep banging on about minority passtimes and ice rinks. how about a decent football club? surely that should keep you scummers occupied for 10 minutes plus! Surely there are bigger issues to discuss like the guy that was murdered in weston?

MW, Southswedenhamton says...
8:45pm Wed 7 Nov 07

So the great God Ikea is going to bless our City by opening one of it's chapels here. A Swedish owned company will bring a lot of money into Southampton but it will not stay here it will be on the first truck to Stokholm. The only way it will bring money into the city is by all the Ikea disciples being snapped by speed cameras as they rush to pay homage to cheap furniture. Southampton has a major design flaw that is it does not have a road system to the south because of Southampton Water. We do not have a ring road. Build a bridge from Hythe to Hamble and allow traffic to go around to the south and flow more freely. Maybe Ikea should have waited a few years and they could have opened thier store on the new Lyndhurst Bypass. I say NO to Ikea

Moses Lawn, southampton says...
9:17pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Go to any Ikea in this country and you will see the traffic congestion! FACT!!!

This one will be even worse, all roads into the city will suffer but none more than Mountbatton way!

Please go and look at the queues on Mountbatton way on Saturday even with out IKEA or a footy match on!

This is going to happen and the council will just pay lip service to it!

cmen, Soton says...
9:21pm Wed 7 Nov 07


Seems simple to me..
Wife gets bus to west quay..

Window shops all day..
Leaving me to watch the rugby.

Comes home on bus..
Logs on to Ikea buys crap she wants in the evening ..
letting me go to pub..
Man delivers in 2 3 days..

Job done..


her indoors, eastleigh says...
9:33pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Sue Bench wrote:
Could anyone please give me some advice as to how to give CPR as my husband has keeled over at the thought of his bank account dwindling rapidly when IKEA comes to Southampton? Thank goodness for city planners coming up trumps twice in as many days, first Bon Jovi, now this, I am a VERY happy bunny!!!
Are you a happy bunny because your husband has just keeled over or is it because IKEA is coming to the city ,if it is the former i wouldnt bother with the CPR

Dominic Higfentebulargustova n, Vaduz, Lichenstein says...
9:47pm Wed 7 Nov 07

The lesser spotted bog hopper is raraely seen outside thRomney Marshes and can be identified by it's vibrant blue tail. Converted goals in rugby score two points and vanilla ice cream can be made using just wallpapaer paste and the carcass of a slightly perplexed chicken. IKEA flatpacks bring me more pleasure than a hog roast at Highcliffe Castle on a slightly overcast day in May while sipping a latte laced with port accompanied by the finest pork scratchings you can purchase outside Hayling Island.

kim, Southampton says...
10:38pm Wed 7 Nov 07

More flat pack rubbish for people to buy.The people on here who think that Ikea are so great,you really are sad! No wonder this country is in such a state.

King Mush, Woolston says...
10:51pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Typical Soton resident:

"the roads in and around Southampton are MINE and therefore I have more right to use them than anyone else."

Er...sorry to disappoint you, but the roads are not yours or anybody else's. Unless you have a 12th Century deed passed down from your ancestors buried in an underground wine cellar?

We pay (heavily) to use the roads which I presume 'belong' to the local authority?

Apart from that - goos points well made.

mo, soton says...
10:57pm Wed 7 Nov 07

He was trying to be sarcastic Mush but at the end of the day the residents of Soton *do* have to put up with the extar traffic and so their vocie si them ost important.

I wouldnt be so bothered if

1) The dual carriage way and especially the area outside Staples wasn;t so busy on weekends already

2) People didnt soudn liek they were underestimating the effect it could have

Maybe they should have let them only open on monday to friday and do saturday openings as a testout to see what would happen..

bishopchris, southampton says...
11:08pm Wed 7 Nov 07

My, my, all this excitement about a SHOP - it really is what Southampton has been missing. I imagine the poor souls in Portsmouth and Bournemouth must be sick with envy today! When you see the traffic chaos this will bring to the city you will change your tune. The net result will end up being FEWER people coming to Southampton to do normal shopping. This is a decision high on greed, but low on foresight.

Nick Ernicker, says...
11:57pm Wed 7 Nov 07

Nevermind Ikea. I would like to see more bordellos in the city. I get rather bored touching myself the whole time...

A Shopper, Romsey says...
9:40am Thu 8 Nov 07

David wrote:
A Shopper wrote:
Dr Stranglelove wrote:
A Shopper wrote:
mo wrote: Lets see how the Ikea shoppers enjoy it when *they* are the ones who are stuck trying to come out of the junction for ages and also stuck for ages on the way home. In town there are already soem fairly long waits to get onto Millbrook/West Quay road at certain points (especially the one into the retail aprt/mcdonalds) so I can only imagine this will make it miels worse.
Yes... those times are called \\\"rush hour\\\". Will happen everyday, no matter if Ikea is there or not.
\'rush hour\'? all day on a Saturday and Sunday I don\'t think so. Oh but it doesn\'t affect you does it as you live in Romsey.
ALL day on a Saturday and ALL day Sunday? Really? ALL day? And yes it does affect me... i actually prefer shopping in Southampton than portsmouth, salisbury or bournemouth! But i've yet to encounter gridlock roads ALL day on Saturday and ALL day on Sundays.
"A Shopper" - you're wrong, but I wouldn;t expect you to admit it judging from your aloofness, nor would I expect you to actually know what the traffic is like in So'ton ALL day, given that you don't actually live there. Yes, I have seen traffic queues ALL day on a Saturday and a Sunday, particularly at Christmas, end of school holidays etc. It isn't "rush hour", as that is typically weekdays before 9am and after 5pm - the traffic is far worse in So'ton than just being isolated to thise time frames and weekdays. Get your facts straight.
I work in Romsey you idiot.

I was born in Southampton General hospital 32 yrs ago and have always lived around Southampton.

You get you facts straight you donut.

Of course traffic is bad during christmas time.. anyone going shopping then expects it to be ... but during normal weekends there ARE NO gridlock roads ALL day on saturday and sundays.

YOUR argument is faulty my friend.

trixx, southampton says...
10:13am Thu 8 Nov 07

ohhh jeeez guys, you're all either getting incredibly excited over a furniture shop, or you're being a total moany arse.

urm, wake up a bit :]

David, Southampton says...
10:26am Thu 8 Nov 07

A Shopper wrote:
David wrote:
A Shopper wrote:
Dr Stranglelove wrote:
A Shopper wrote:
mo wrote: Lets see how the Ikea shoppers enjoy it when *they* are the ones who are stuck trying to come out of the junction for ages and also stuck for ages on the way home. In town there are already soem fairly long waits to get onto Millbrook/West Quay road at certain points (especially the one into the retail aprt/mcdonalds) so I can only imagine this will make it miels worse.
Yes... those times are called \\\"rush hour\\\". Will happen everyday, no matter if Ikea is there or not.
\'rush hour\'? all day on a Saturday and Sunday I don\'t think so. Oh but it doesn\'t affect you does it as you live in Romsey.
ALL day on a Saturday and ALL day Sunday? Really? ALL day? And yes it does affect me... i actually prefer shopping in Southampton than portsmouth, salisbury or bournemouth! But i've yet to encounter gridlock roads ALL day on Saturday and ALL day on Sundays.
"A Shopper" - you're wrong, but I wouldn;t expect you to admit it judging from your aloofness, nor would I expect you to actually know what the traffic is like in So'ton ALL day, given that you don't actually live there. Yes, I have seen traffic queues ALL day on a Saturday and a Sunday, particularly at Christmas, end of school holidays etc. It isn't "rush hour", as that is typically weekdays before 9am and after 5pm - the traffic is far worse in So'ton than just being isolated to thise time frames and weekdays. Get your facts straight.
I work in Romsey you idiot. I was born in Southampton General hospital 32 yrs ago and have always lived around Southampton. You get you facts straight you donut. Of course traffic is bad during christmas time.. anyone going shopping then expects it to be ... but during normal weekends there ARE NO gridlock roads ALL day on saturday and sundays. YOUR argument is faulty my friend.
You're a bit uptight aren't you?

It's a reasonable assumption that if you're commenting on a local story, you'd put your home location, not where you work, where you went on holiday last or where your Nan lives. No need for personal insults.

Read my post again. I said that I have seen traffic queues all day on Sat/Sun - particlarly (NB. key word) - at Christmas etc. That infers that I have seen queues at other times. And what would you know? I have!

Who cares where you were born? I doubt you were bothered about traffic then!

Have a nice day. Enjoy your donuts and humble pie.

oh dear, says...
10:53am Thu 8 Nov 07

Its a shop. Go, don't go. No one cares.


Now, if it was an ice rink instead...

A Shopper, Romsey says...
10:54am Thu 8 Nov 07

So Romsey is a million miles from Southampton is it?

Again you exagerrate the situation. I put where i work, not where i've been on holiday or where my nan lives.

Read your own post and then decide whose "aloof".

Again... you're at fault my friend.

Simon, Southampton says...
10:57am Thu 8 Nov 07

bishopchris wrote:
My, my, all this excitement about a SHOP - it really is what Southampton has been missing. I imagine the poor souls in Portsmouth and Bournemouth must be sick with envy today! When you see the traffic chaos this will bring to the city you will change your tune. The net result will end up being FEWER people coming to Southampton to do normal shopping. This is a decision high on greed, but low on foresight.
So... fewer people coming to Southampton will mean less traffic right?

David, Southampton says...
11:03am Thu 8 Nov 07

A Shopper wrote:
So Romsey is a million miles from Southampton is it? Again you exagerrate the situation. I put where i work, not where i've been on holiday or where my nan lives. Read your own post and then decide whose "aloof". Again... you're at fault my friend.
Oh, who cares? It doesn't matter where the hell you work pal.

For what it's worth - and it's really lost it's impact - I have seen traffic queues all day in Sot'on. Perhaps I'm better positioned to witness it, because I work there? Who kows.

I don't get why I'm at fault for reporting something I've seen though.

Anyway, I'm not aloof. I'm just better than you.

F**k me!, says...
11:05am Thu 8 Nov 07

oh dear wrote:
Its a shop. Go, don't go. No one cares. Now, if it was an ice rink instead...
Wondered when the chuffing ice-rink would be mentioned again.....get a life old dear. It ain't happening.

A Shopper, Romsey says...
11:33am Thu 8 Nov 07

A bit uptight aren't we David?

I'm not better than anyone, but i pity the fools that claim to be better than others.

I might not live a good life like yours David, and i don't aim to win at everything. Otherwise life sucks.

But then.. you're better then me.

David, Southampton says...
11:52am Thu 8 Nov 07

A Shopper wrote:
A bit uptight aren't we David? I'm not better than anyone, but i pity the fools that claim to be better than others. I might not live a good life like yours David, and i don't aim to win at everything. Otherwise life sucks. But then.. you're better then me.
Not all A Shopper, not all!

I do live a very good life. Doesn't mean to say I'm loaded, or extravagent, but I am very contented.

I see you missed the humour in my previous post. Too subtle perhaps.

Have a nice day.

paula parker, swaythling says...
12:44pm Thu 8 Nov 07

i agree there is enough shops in town we need a ice rink for the younger genaration that might keep them off the streets at night.

Lynda, Southampton says...
2:09pm Thu 8 Nov 07

paula parker wrote:
i agree there is enough shops in town we need a ice rink for the younger genaration that might keep them off the streets at night.
So would it be free then?

Matt Terrell, Southampton says...
2:10pm Thu 8 Nov 07

What a nightmare, our already congested roads here in Southampton WILL BE gridlocked make no mistake. Anybody that thinks they are going to save time by 'just popping down' the new Southampton Ikea store rather than driving for hours to one of there other locations are sadly misguided. West Quay Road is barely capable of coping with the traffic using it now ! Every weekend one of the two lanes is always backed up with West Quay shoppers anyway causeing problems for every other road user. And so what that they are to provide 900 car park spaces, everyone still has to get there first! Also don't forget the IOW Ferry traffic, this causes problems too at peak times, then there’s rush hour & add in some Southampton FC home games and this will be a disaster. What a brainless location to pick.

paula parker, SWAYTHLING says...
3:14pm Thu 8 Nov 07

NO IT WOULDENT BE FREE BUT IF MORE PPL WORKED THEY COULD AFFORD TO GIVE THERE KIDS A NIGHT OUT AT LEAST THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE THEY ARE ON A SAT EVE.

Ikea Rocks, says...
6:58pm Thu 8 Nov 07

Typical Southampton Resident wrote:
How dare the council give permission for something to be built in Southampton which will attract people to the city! All these unnecessary car journeys to Ikea by ‘other people’ will cause more traffic which will affect MY car journeys. As a Southampton resident I have a god given right to drive to the city as and when I chose and not encounter any other traffic what so ever as my journeys are necessary and cannot be made by any other means of transport as it would just not be practical. The council should only give permission for developments in Southampton that attract no-one or better still, repel people from the city. Then I can drive my car in and around the city all day long and never encounter any traffic what so ever. Despite the fact that the majority of the car-driving population pay their car/council tax, the roads in and around Southampton are MINE and therefore I have more right to use them than anyone else.
I DON'T THINK SO SOMEHOW!!!!

ITS ALL ABOUT YOU YOU YOU!!!

everyone in the UK has a right to drive into southampton if they want and its going to take more than you or ikea to stop em.

i am all for ikea, my new office is being built along west quay road so i will look out my window and aknowledge the fact i am looking at a giant blue wall!!!
Ikea is a great store and tbh i think it will be good for southampton. i do see where ppl are coming from with the traffic as me as well as many others get stuck in traffic at some point in the day, we live with it don't we? so we will have to carry on living with it!!

GO IKEA!!

Icemaiden, says...
7:15pm Thu 8 Nov 07

paula parker wrote:
i agree there is enough shops in town we need a ice rink for the younger genaration that might keep them off the streets at night.
Rowlocks.

Since when did icerinks solve all of our problems? Get in the real world sweetheart. How many times has this got to be drummed in to your heads? So'ton doesn't need an icerink. NOt enough people want one, or would support it to be a commercial success. That's why we haven't got one now.

It's not difficult to understand, but why do people keep banging on about icerinks still? As if they're the solution to all of life's problems.

Get a grip!

Simon, Romsey says...
9:20pm Thu 8 Nov 07

Icemaiden wrote:
paula parker wrote: i agree there is enough shops in town we need a ice rink for the younger genaration that might keep them off the streets at night.
Rowlocks. Since when did icerinks solve all of our problems? Get in the real world sweetheart. How many times has this got to be drummed in to your heads? So'ton doesn't need an icerink. NOt enough people want one, or would support it to be a commercial success. That's why we haven't got one now. It's not difficult to understand, but why do people keep banging on about icerinks still? As if they're the solution to all of life's problems. Get a grip!
YES... thats the answer!!

If we had an ice rink then accidents on the M27 would stop!

Excellent!!

Lets get an ice rink now!!

Stop with the ice rink talk, Southampton says...
2:30pm Fri 9 Nov 07

There are plenty of ice rinks around the area as it is (Basingstoke, Gosport, Poole) and Southamptons last one was so unsuccessful it was closed so what makes you think that children of a generation of Wii and Nintendo will be interested!?!

Fantastic that Ikea are coming!! Will mean i can spend my hard earned money on stuff i actually want for a change for a reasonable price that will last!

The Football traffic issue raised also...find out kick off time and go after that and before it finishes!! It doesnt even effect the traffic that much these days (plenty of short cuts and traffic avoidance routes as well).

Would be nice if we didnt have to wait until 2009 for Ikea to be built...I want it tomorrow!!

craig, says...
6:18pm Fri 9 Nov 07

COYR wrote:
never mind Ikea, what about more strip clubs and brothels?
Hear Hear!!!

Stoneham, says...
12:10am Sun 11 Nov 07

surely we'd be better off with another gypsy/traveller transit site.

tom, soton says...
12:30pm Tue 13 Nov 07

an ice rink?
I'm not interested in skating but it would be funny to sit and watch people fall over!

And, Southampton says...
8:19am Fri 16 Nov 07

Everybody knows IKEA will attract a massive amount of traffic from out of town. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that West Quay road will become even more of a traffic nightmare . IKEA should be put where motorway links are best - on the M271 .

Rachel, Regents Park, Soton says...
2:10pm Mon 19 Nov 07

I assume the majority of happy people live on the east of the proposed site and the majority of the unhappy people live on the west and know how bad the daily traffic is already without an IKEA. Nothing against IKEA itself but the positioning is nothing short of ridiculous. It will attract people for a few months until they end up spending more time in a traffic jam than they would in store then they will go elsewhere where the IKEA is easier to reach - rather short sited planning decision.

Sarah, Southampton says...
3:42pm Sat 19 Jan 08

DJ Red wrote:
This is FANTASTIC news for Southampton. As a resident of the city centre i have to say i\\\'m extremely happy that Ikea tried numerous times to open a store here and have succeeded. Its no secret that many people from the south journey to Croyden or Lakeside for their furniture. Ikea is a modern, forward looking company and the kind of iconic brand we need here, the capital of the South. Thank you City Council, for once you\\\'ve made the correct decision, hopefully soon we\\\'ll get a Nandos too, then my cup will truly runneth over!!!
I live in Southampton and I don't think it's a bad thing at all that Ikea are coming. It will create more jobs for one, which has got to be a good thing surely? And I agree that it will be better for local people who currently have to travel miles to get to the nearest Ikea. Hopefully if people come to Ikea in Southampton, they will also visit the other shops and attractions we have to offer - thereby boosting the local economy.

Also, just wanted to say that there is also a Nando's being built due to open late this year/early next year.

michael, southampton says...
10:17am Tue 10 Jun 08

hi wot the hell do they think there doin

Brian B, West End says...
12:18pm Tue 12 Aug 08

I note that the Ikea restaurant will be a 600 seater.They are advertising for chefs at a salary of £12000. How good will the meals be ?

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