An angry soton resident wrote:
Both in the wrong but most of all I strongly appose the use of mobile phones behind the wheel without handsfree. The fact that she was sending/reading a text message makes it more serious and she should be made an example of. I'd be a millionaire if I reported every person I'd see with a mobile phone to their ears and received a reward of £1.

An angry soton resident wrote:
Both in the wrong but most of all I strongly appose the use of mobile phones behind the wheel without handsfree. The fact that she was sending/reading a text message makes it more serious and she should be made an example of. I'd be a millionaire if I reported every person I'd see with a mobile phone to their ears and received a reward of £1.

mike wrote:
This is a tragedy in many ways - the death of a young man and the grief of his nearest and dearest; the possible imprisonment of the driver and the consequent separation from her young daughter. Jail in my view should be the sentence because to send a text while driving is the height of irresponsibility and that is not to mention the fact that she was exceeding the speed limit by a considerable amount. True, the cyclist crossed when the traffic light was red. However, driving is being able to cope with the unexpected and no one can do that when they are not concentrating or are speeding. It is a shame for the motorist that she did not realise earlier that a car is a lethal weapon. There are far too many like Keira Coultas on our roads who only think of themselves. To those who think she should be treated leniently, how would you feel if she had killed your child or partner?

To those who think she should be treated leniently, how would you feel if she had killed your child or partner?

Interesting wrote:
Difficult this one. He really shouldn't have jumped the lights and she shouldn't have been reading texts (allegedly). I hope she doesn't receive a custodial sentence.

Anon wrote:
I agree - this is a difficult one. In a split second, two people similtaneously made the wrong decision, effectively costing both of them their lives. Jordan unfortunately can't live to tell this tale, and Kiera will forever bear the burden of being perhaps more than half responsible for taking away someone elses child. I'm sure Jordan's parents agree that this outcome doesn't help ease their pain as it doesn't bring back their son. Sending Kiera to prison is not the answer. And to make an example out of a young girl who has a young daughter isn't the answer. My thoughts are with both families.

Meme wrote:
As a friend of Jordan's family, I would just like to say I am glad to see justice is being dealt out. Too many people get away with murder these days! Yes, Jordan was wrong to ride through red lights but, she was totally out of line to be texting and speeding. Considering the fact that she already had speeding tickets under her belt, she deserves to be punished. I hope she has learnt her lesson and doesn't abuse the speed limits and law ever again. Will she have her licence taken away? Nothing will bring Jordan back and my heartfelt sympathy is with his family. They have to live with the loss of their son for the rest of their lives. She has to live with the guilt of killing someone.

? wrote:

Anon wrote: I agree - this is a difficult one. In a split second, two people similtaneously made the wrong decision, effectively costing both of them their lives. Jordan unfortunately can't live to tell this tale, and Kiera will forever bear the burden of being perhaps more than half responsible for taking away someone elses child. I'm sure Jordan's parents agree that this outcome doesn't help ease their pain as it doesn't bring back their son. Sending Kiera to prison is not the answer. And to make an example out of a young girl who has a young daughter isn't the answer. My thoughts are with both families.

Umm, so what is the answer? Should she be left to carry on her life unpunished just because she is a 'young girl who has a young daughter'? What if it had been her daughter who had been killed by a speeding car whilst the driver was otherwise occupied?!!!! Do you think she would want that person to walk away just bearing the burden of their lapse of judgement? I don't think so. Get real. She needs to be punished fair and square. If not, what sort of an example would it be to others hey?

toxteth o'grady wrote:

Interesting wrote: Difficult this one. He really shouldn't have jumped the lights and she shouldn't have been reading texts (allegedly). I hope she doesn't receive a custodial sentence.

Why not ?? Ok the cyclist should not have jumped the red light BUT she was doing 45mph in a 30 AND she was texting at the same time. If she was doing neither then the poor bloke would still be alive simple as. These idiots on mobile phones in cars need to made an example of

Sending Kiera to prison is not the answer.

If the punishment is a fine and a driving ban, it sends the message - rightly or not - that the offence isn't being taken seriously.

this lady could play a major part in preventing others making a similar mistake

Yep, sending her to prison will get that message out.
Let's not be so weak about this - she didn't make a mistake. Anyone who drives at 1½ times the speed limit "by mistake" shouldn't be driving anyway. And you don't pick up a phone, read a text message and send a reply "by mistake" either. Yes, the cyclist was partly responsible for his own misfortune - but this lady knowingly put other people at risk.

toxteth o'grady wrote:

Interesting wrote: Difficult this one. He really shouldn't have jumped the lights and she shouldn't have been reading texts (allegedly). I hope she doesn't receive a custodial sentence.

Why not ?? Ok the cyclist should not have jumped the red light BUT she was doing 45mph in a 30 AND she was texting at the same time. If she was doing neither then the poor bloke would still be alive simple as. These idiots on mobile phones in cars need to made an example of

Markus Stafford wrote:
I am utterly disguted at today\'s outcome. For those that have already commented, i say this especially to you. Firstly, it is with great upset that someone has lost their life. But having to blame someone, i.e the defendant, is surely not the answer. If any of you attended the court, you would know that evidence given by both parties, plus the statements made by a mobile telephone network and mobile phone giant, the sending of a text and the delivery of the message, among other things, did not add up. Is that what we do now in this country - just find someone to blame and that will take the pain away from the grieving family or the young, mother who had to take the wrap?! Are we really becoming more and more like the United States? This really has made a mockery of the British Justice System. My heart goes out to Keira.

steve-o wrote:
This is a difficult one, if she hadn't been texting or speeding she would of still hit the cyclist as he went through the red light. This is a bug bite of mine. How many times have I been sat at the lights for a cyclist to cycle up the inside and straight through the lights or up on the pavement to avert the lights! All of that said she was in the wrong for texting and speeding so it's catch 22. Yes punish her for these offences but the sentence should take into consideration the cyclists part in the accident.

John Deed wrote:

Yep, sending her to prison will get that message out. Let\'s not be so weak about this - she didn\'t make a mistake. Anyone who drives at 1½ times the speed limit \"by mistake\" shouldn\'t be driving anyway. And you don\'t pick up a phone, read a text message and send a reply \"by mistake\" either. Yes, the cyclist was partly responsible for his own misfortune - but this lady knowingly put other people at risk.

By your definition she too was only partly at fault. Sending people to jail is the easiest option. In two weeks time most people would have forgotton about this case! Where is the lesson there?

J.Boggis wrote:

Markus Stafford wrote: I am utterly disguted at today\'s outcome. For those that have already commented, i say this especially to you. Firstly, it is with great upset that someone has lost their life. But having to blame someone, i.e the defendant, is surely not the answer. If any of you attended the court, you would know that evidence given by both parties, plus the statements made by a mobile telephone network and mobile phone giant, the sending of a text and the delivery of the message, among other things, did not add up. Is that what we do now in this country - just find someone to blame and that will take the pain away from the grieving family or the young, mother who had to take the wrap?! Are we really becoming more and more like the United States? This really has made a mockery of the British Justice System. My heart goes out to Keira.

What an absolute ridiculously one-sided view. There is no such thing as an accident.This stupid woman took somebody elses life because both people's actions resulted in one being dead the other one doing the killing! The young guy paid the ultimate price for his actions - this woman should certainly pay a heavy price for hers.

Back home

Don't really care for the views of a yank.

rather than that back home in the UK.

Interesting wrote:
Difficult this one. He really shouldn't have jumped the lights and she shouldn't have been reading texts (allegedly). I hope she doesn't receive a custodial sentence.

Derek wrote:

Don't really care for the views of a yank.

Perhaps browsing through the post again might reveal a few clues that will lead you to understand that the gentleman is originally from the UK. Here's some help :-

rather than that back home in the UK.

jon o wrote:
The lad lost his life for cycling thorugh a red light. The majority here seem to want to destroy another life becasue the lady was driving through a GREEN light. Cyclists dont seem to think the law of the road applies to them but they dont have a license that can be taken away. I often rode my bike through a red light but made sure nothing was coming as i would obviously not expect the motorist to be locked up for my wrong doing (i took responsibility for my actions) Its is a terrible tragedy but the fact is simple. The chap rode through a RED light. The lady drove through a GREEN light. I definately dont think that a custodial sentance helps anyone. it wont make me feel safer in the community even when riding my bike into West Quay on a saturday. 9which will probably be quicker these days with the soton council desperately trying to make sure no one drives any where any more. Perhaps MORE traffic lights will help...

Misanthrope wrote:
Cyclists are always jumping red lights and if the cyclist in this case hadn't disregarded the rules of the road he would still be alive. Equal stupidity on the part of both people, I think.

Injured wrote:
Until they prevent mobiles from receiving signals within cars that have the engine on (yes, it is possible), people who cause death, accidents or are simply caught using their mobile while driving should be imprisoned without question. That is the only penalty which will hopefully make idiots like Coultas realise how serious such offences are. Yes, she was speeding, but perhaps she could have braked or swerved if she hadn't been looking at the her mobile screen. Yes, Jason went through red lights on his bicycle, but I think the law states that the responsibility to try and stop belongs to the driver who sees a person or vehicle in front of them. Finally, I was involved in an accident eight years ago when it was still legal to use a mobile while driving - although driving without due care and attention was the offence. I was lucky. I escaped with my life. But I received a permanent and partially degenerative injury that will remain with me until the end of my life - which could be another 40 or 50 years based on current averages. The driver? She was fined and lost her no claims discount. No comparison between what she suffered and what I still suffer!

Interesting wrote:
Difficult this one. He really shouldn\'t have jumped the lights and she shouldn\'t have been reading texts (allegedly). I hope she doesn\'t receive a custodial sentence.

kim wrote:
I agree with jon o on this one, had the lad not gone through the red light he would still be here now.All this case has done is given the ok for cyclist to do what they want.I wonder how many of you people out there who have been going on about the use of mobile phones when driving use satnavs when driving.

Here we go..... wrote:

To those who think she should be treated leniently, how would you feel if she had killed your child or partner?

Another hypothetical emtionally charged statement, why do people feel compelled to put this weak nonsense at the end of their posts to try and add weight to their point/argument.

Gregail wrote:
It's unbelievable that people are defending this woman. She was speeding and simultaneously texting on a mobile phone - she broke the law, pure and simple, and someone died. The lad who died was an idiot for going through a red light, but it's a fact he'd probably be alive today if the defendant hadn't displayed such an arrogant disregard for the law.

Paul wrote:
One of the things that REALLY enforces my utter lack of desire to live back in the UK again is the constant self-righteous indignation by a nanny-state of wanton, erst-while individuals. What I mean by this is all the drivel about her texting when the emphasis should be put upon the idiot that jumped the red light! It was HIS decision to ignore the signal and it is his fate to accept the consequences of his arrogance. I've lived here for nigh on 30 years and guess what? I don't know of one single accident caused by cell phone usage. Now, that's not to say it doesn't happen and we all get annoyed here by those pootling along below the speed limit whilst yakking on the phone but maybe that's the point? People here take responsibility for themselves as opposed to relying on the nanny state to do everything for them. And that's why we have such a better standard of living and life here rather than that back home in the UK. (

Back home

indeed: not likely, mates. This is home!)

Paul wrote:
One of the things that REALLY enforces my utter lack of desire to live back in the UK again is the constant self-righteous indignation by a nanny-state of wanton, erst-while individuals. What I mean by this is all the drivel about her texting when the emphasis should be put upon the idiot that jumped the red light! It was HIS decision to ignore the signal and it is his fate to accept the consequences of his arrogance.

I've lived here for nigh on 30 years and guess what? I don't know of one single accident caused by cell phone usage. Now, that's not to say it doesn't happen and we all get annoyed here by those pootling along below the speed limit whilst yakking on the phone but maybe that's the point? People here take responsibility for themselves as opposed to relying on the nanny state to do everything for them.

And that's why we have such a better standard of living and life here rather than that back home in the UK. (

Back home

indeed: not likely, mates. This is home!)

Laura Wickington wrote:
I am Jordan\'s sister and I would like to say my piece.
Firstly, thank you to the majority of you for your kind words and support.
Secondly, we accept Jord went through red lights which was wrong but, he stopped, twice!
none of you know the full story. I would like to say that, in the case of Miss Coultas, from personally sitting in the court and watching her, she has never shown any remorse or regret for her actions. She has shown no respect or dignity towards my family and has never apologised.
We are happy that a custodial sentence has been suggested as we are fed up that the justice system lets people get away with far too much.
Please keep your negative comments about Jordan off this site and respect my family\'s privacy.

John Deed wrote:
She should be punished but not sent to jail. Lets try and be a little more creative with sentencing. I would far rather our prison places be available for perpetrators of violent crimes and paedophiles. We lock too many people up we should concentrate on education, this lady could play a major part in preventing others making a similar mistake (Car drivers and cylists)

Jed wrote ...but the cyclist should not have cut the red light and should have worn a helmet (I know it isn't law, but if we're talking what should and shouldn't be done here?).

kim wrote:
To Squashme of London,I dont think this case will make any difference to cyclist because they dont seem to care how they ride, most in this city seem to ride anywhere but on the road even though we have lots of cycle lanes.As the lad was supposed to have stopped a few time going across the junction I dont see how he even got hit by a car,because no matter how fast the car was going he should have seen it unless the weather was really bad that day ie very heavy rain.This is something that hasnt been said in the media.The trouble with the press is we the public only hear part of the story.

Paul wrote:
One of the things that REALLY enforces my utter lack of desire to live back in the UK again is the constant self-righteous indignation by a nanny-state of wanton, erst-while individuals. What I mean by this is all the drivel about her texting when the emphasis should be put upon the idiot that jumped the red light! It was HIS decision to ignore the signal and it is his fate to accept the consequences of his arrogance. I've lived here for nigh on 30 years and guess what? I don't know of one single accident caused by cell phone usage. Now, that's not to say it doesn't happen and we all get annoyed here by those pootling along below the speed limit whilst yakking on the phone but maybe that's the point? People here take responsibility for themselves as opposed to relying on the nanny state to do everything for them. And that's why we have such a better standard of living and life here rather than that back home in the UK. (

Back home

indeed: not likely, mates. This is home!)

bsingh wrote:

Laura Wickington wrote: I am Jordan\'s sister and I would like to say my piece. Firstly, thank you to the majority of you for your kind words and support. Secondly, we accept Jord went through red lights which was wrong but, he stopped, twice! none of you know the full story. I would like to say that, in the case of Miss Coultas, from personally sitting in the court and watching her, she has never shown any remorse or regret for her actions. She has shown no respect or dignity towards my family and has never apologised. We are happy that a custodial sentence has been suggested as we are fed up that the justice system lets people get away with far too much. Please keep your negative comments about Jordan off this site and respect my family\'s privacy.

i agree 100% ,sorry for your loss

Bushy wrote:

Misanthrope wrote:
Cyclists are always jumping red lights and if the cyclist in this case hadn't disregarded the rules of the road he would still be alive. Equal stupidity on the part of both people, I think.

The cyclist is not required to take a test and is unlikely to travel much over 30 mph.

As for the yank, see you've picked up the 'gob', but you are really not worth the discussion. This is a thread about a woman mowing a cyclist over, not about you, your views, your ego or small penis, so please go and **** yourself ;-)

kim wrote:
To Squashme of London,I dont think this case will make any difference to cyclist because they dont seem to care how they ride, most in this city seem to ride anywhere but on the road even though we have lots of cycle lanes.As the lad was supposed to have stopped a few time going across the junction I dont see how he even got hit by a car,because no matter how fast the car was going he should have seen it unless the weather was really bad that day ie very heavy rain.This is something that hasnt been said in the media.The trouble with the press is we the public only hear part of the story.

forest hump wrote:
Exceeding the speed limit is an offence. Allegedly, using a cellphone whilst driving is an offence. Ignoring and passing through a red light is an offence. In otherwords, both parties were culpable. How can this be judged? Both parties were guilty! Sadly,one has paid the ultimate penalty. The only question is: what should the other pay? Prison is probably not the answer. It will acheive very little. Take away priveleges: cars and cellphones for a long period!

Derek wrote:

Bushy wrote:

Misanthrope wrote: Cyclists are always jumping red lights and if the cyclist in this case hadn't disregarded the rules of the road he would still be alive. Equal stupidity on the part of both people, I think.

The cyclist is not required to take a test and is unlikely to travel much over 30 mph. As for the yank, see you've picked up the 'gob', but you are really not worth the discussion. This is a thread about a woman mowing a cyclist over, not about you, your views, your ego or small penis, so please go and **** yourself ;-)

As is usual with the poorly educated, the loss of an argument results in recourse to shouting, bad language and violence.

Laura cooke wrote:

forest hump wrote: Exceeding the speed limit is an offence. Allegedly, using a cellphone whilst driving is an offence. Ignoring and passing through a red light is an offence. In otherwords, both parties were culpable. How can this be judged? Both parties were guilty! Sadly,one has paid the ultimate penalty. The only question is: what should the other pay? Prison is probably not the answer. It will acheive very little. Take away priveleges: cars and cellphones for a long period!

No she should go to prison, she seemed to show no remorse in court as she lied in court and claimed she was not guilty!! so yes both parties may be guilty as jordan should not have gone through a red light but he has had his life taken away from him at such a younh age and anyone who knew him would know his life did not deserve to be taken, he has paid the price, so should she, maybe she will realise what she has done when she is in a cell hopefully rotting away. however I do feel sorry for the womens little girl as she is being punished for her mothers stupid mistakes!!!!

forest hump wrote:

Laura cooke wrote:

forest hump wrote: Exceeding the speed limit is an offence. Allegedly, using a cellphone whilst driving is an offence. Ignoring and passing through a red light is an offence. In otherwords, both parties were culpable. How can this be judged? Both parties were guilty! Sadly,one has paid the ultimate penalty. The only question is: what should the other pay? Prison is probably not the answer. It will acheive very little. Take away priveleges: cars and cellphones for a long period!

No she should go to prison, she seemed to show no remorse in court as she lied in court and claimed she was not guilty!! so yes both parties may be guilty as jordan should not have gone through a red light but he has had his life taken away from him at such a younh age and anyone who knew him would know his life did not deserve to be taken, he has paid the price, so should she, maybe she will realise what she has done when she is in a cell hopefully rotting away. however I do feel sorry for the womens little girl as she is being punished for her mothers stupid mistakes!!!!

That\'s right. I did not know him.I am not suggesting I did! Life is about taking risks and making judgements. I am not defending the driver but do you not htink that ignoring a red light is taking a risk? QED

laura cooke wrote:

forest hump wrote:

Laura cooke wrote:

forest hump wrote: Exceeding the speed limit is an offence. Allegedly, using a cellphone whilst driving is an offence. Ignoring and passing through a red light is an offence. In otherwords, both parties were culpable. How can this be judged? Both parties were guilty! Sadly,one has paid the ultimate penalty. The only question is: what should the other pay? Prison is probably not the answer. It will acheive very little. Take away priveleges: cars and cellphones for a long period!

No she should go to prison, she seemed to show no remorse in court as she lied in court and claimed she was not guilty!! so yes both parties may be guilty as jordan should not have gone through a red light but he has had his life taken away from him at such a younh age and anyone who knew him would know his life did not deserve to be taken, he has paid the price, so should she, maybe she will realise what she has done when she is in a cell hopefully rotting away. however I do feel sorry for the womens little girl as she is being punished for her mothers stupid mistakes!!!!

That\\\'s right. I did not know him.I am not suggesting I did! Life is about taking risks and making judgements. I am not defending the driver but do you not htink that ignoring a red light is taking a risk? QED

of course it is and do you not think that his family and friends see that mistake??? his family and friends have had to deal with a huge loss. he made one mistake where as she made 2 big ones using her phone whilst speeding. In your opinion you say the driver should not go to prison as it will acheive little, I think whilst in prison she will realise the consquences of what she has done and feel remorse for it.

Emma wrote:
Amanda Erwin of London,dont be a muppet you dont get 10 years if you go out and stab someone in this neck of the woods its about 18 months or in one case in the Southampton area a few months back,let off.

Meme wrote:
As a friend of Jordan\'s family, I would just like to say I am glad to see justice is being dealt out. Too many people get away with murder these days! Yes, Jordan was wrong to ride through red lights but, she was totally out of line to be texting and speeding. Considering the fact that she already had speeding tickets under her belt, she deserves to be punished. I hope she has learnt her lesson and doesn\'t abuse the speed limits and law ever again. Will she have her licence taken away? Nothing will bring Jordan back and my heartfelt sympathy is with his family. They have to live with the loss of their son for the rest of their lives. She has to live with the guilt of killing someone.

toxteth o'grady wrote:

Interesting wrote: Difficult this one. He really shouldn't have jumped the lights and she shouldn't have been reading texts (allegedly). I hope she doesn't receive a custodial sentence.

Why not ?? Ok the cyclist should not have jumped the red light BUT she was doing 45mph in a 30 AND she was texting at the same time. If she was doing neither then the poor bloke would still be alive simple as. These idiots on mobile phones in cars need to made an example of

Paul wrote:
One of the things that REALLY enforces my utter lack of desire to live back in the UK again is the constant self-righteous indignation by a nanny-state of wanton, erst-while individuals. What I mean by this is all the drivel about her texting when the emphasis should be put upon the idiot that jumped the red light! It was HIS decision to ignore the signal and it is his fate to accept the consequences of his arrogance. I've lived here for nigh on 30 years and guess what? I don't know of one single accident caused by cell phone usage. Now, that's not to say it doesn't happen and we all get annoyed here by those pootling along below the speed limit whilst yakking on the phone but maybe that's the point? People here take responsibility for themselves as opposed to relying on the nanny state to do everything for them. And that's why we have such a better standard of living and life here rather than that back home in the UK. (

Back home

indeed: not likely, mates. This is home!)

anon wrote:
Seriously, i think you're all being a bit heavy handed. Both were in wrong place at wrong time, i bet all of you have used your mobiles at one point or another and i know all of you have been speeding! who doesn't, she was just caught doing what we all do because Jordan jumped the lights. I can't imagine what she must be feeling, the guilt must be killing her.

me wrote:

Meme wrote:
As a friend of Jordan\\\'s family, I would just like to say I am glad to see justice is being dealt out. Too many people get away with murder these days! Yes, Jordan was wrong to ride through red lights but, she was totally out of line to be texting and speeding. Considering the fact that she already had speeding tickets under her belt, she deserves to be punished. I hope she has learnt her lesson and doesn\\\'t abuse the speed limits and law ever again. Will she have her licence taken away? Nothing will bring Jordan back and my heartfelt sympathy is with his family. They have to live with the loss of their son for the rest of their lives. She has to live with the guilt of killing someone.

i am sorry for your loss but this was not \"murder\" this was a tragic accident and yes she was speeding and texting - vry irresponsible so she should be banned from getting behind the wheel for good but its not like she killed this man on purpose! murder is when a human being kils another human being intentionally outting thaught into it first, at most this is manslaughter but personally i think its a case of wreckless driving - give her community service and put child moesters and real murderers in jail!

anon wrote:
Seriously, i think you're all being a bit heavy handed. Both were in wrong place at wrong time, i bet all of you have used your mobiles at one point or another and i know all of you have been speeding! who doesn't, she was just caught doing what we all do because Jordan jumped the lights. I can't imagine what she must be feeling, the guilt must be killing her.

Know it all wrote:

toxteth o\'grady wrote:

Interesting wrote: Difficult this one. He really shouldn\'t have jumped the lights and she shouldn\'t have been reading texts (allegedly). I hope she doesn\'t receive a custodial sentence.

Why not ?? Ok the cyclist should not have jumped the red light BUT she was doing 45mph in a 30 AND she was texting at the same time. If she was doing neither then the poor bloke would still be alive simple as. These idiots on mobile phones in cars need to made an example of

Actually it\'s 40mph in that area. Still 5mph over the speed limit though!

Bushy wrote:

Misanthrope wrote:
Cyclists are always jumping red lights and if the cyclist in this case hadn't disregarded the rules of the road he would still be alive. Equal stupidity on the part of both people, I think.

The cyclist is not required to take a test and is unlikely to travel much over 30 mph.

As for the yank, see you've picked up the 'gob', but you are really not worth the discussion. This is a thread about a woman mowing a cyclist over, not about you, your views, your ego or small penis, so please go and **** yourself ;-)

Mr Jenkins told jurors she was sending a message back when the accident occurred.

"Although she was going through green lights, we suggest she was doing that in excess of the speed limit, something like 40 -45mph which is quite dangerous.

"If she was doing that and texting, that is certainly dangerous because she wasn't looking ahead."

southampton resident wrote:
I think the key phrase here is that the cyclist jumped the red light? Therefore entirely his own fault.
While not condoning mobile phone users at the wheel, I would hope this is taken into account at sentencing?
If not, does this mean that these anti-social idiots on bikes who already think they are above the law, can ignore traffic lights in the knowledge the other driver will be blamed if there is an accident.
I would not hesitate to detain any cyclist who caused an accident which I witnessed until the police arrived.

concerned driver and cyclist wrote:
1. He CHOSE to ride on a dual carriageway and not the cycle path provided by the railway.
2. He CHOSE not to wear a cycle helmet, possibly leading to greater injury. As a scaffolder was he not more aware than most of the need to wear head protection?

How many other drivers have been caught exceeding the limit, without having accidents?

Gerry Jackson wrote:

Bushy wrote:

Misanthrope wrote: Cyclists are always jumping red lights and if the cyclist in this case hadn't disregarded the rules of the road he would still be alive. Equal stupidity on the part of both people, I think.

The cyclist is not required to take a test and is unlikely to travel much over 30 mph. As for the yank, see you've picked up the 'gob', but you are really not worth the discussion. This is a thread about a woman mowing a cyclist over, not about you, your views, your ego or small penis, so please go and **** yourself ;-)

Seconded. She took a life while engaging in illegal, selfish and downright dangerous actions, with previous for similar offences, then lied to the court about her culpability. As for the ex-pat Yank, obviously one of those people who regard their cars as their castles and the peasants better get out of the way...Was he actually commenting on the story or letting us know how wonderful his life is in the good old USofA???

Dave wrote:
The worst thing in this case was the nauseating "statement" read out by the female relative outside the court. Why do attention seeking dimbos like her persist in taking advantage of these sort of incidents ? The only reason I can think of is to get themselves on "telly".

emily wrote:
I have read lots of these comments and what i am going to ask is have any of you actually been through this?? I know a young man has died and his family truly devastated BUT do you honestly beleive this wont of affected Kiera and her family. I am speaking from experience and it is true the media do not tell the whole truth they pick out the juicy bits and print them. Kiera was obviously advised to plead NOT GUILTY and that advice would of been given by a barrister. I don\'t see what good it is going to do anyone her going to jail but in order to appease the family that will be the sentence. Unless you have actually experienced any of this then keep you pathetic comments to yourself. As someone said HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY SHE KILLED well let me ask you HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY FACING A PRISON SENTENCE??? everyone is so easy to judge well let me tell you never say never because i honestly thought i would never be sat in my position and im sure Keira\'s family thought the same way as me. My message to Kiera is try not to worry hun as bad as it is not going to be as bad as you think. Those commenting on this site don\'t know how it feels and lets hope they never have to.

concerned driver and cyclist wrote:
It is most unfortunate for all concerned that this young man met his death, but somehow his death has led to the driver being somehow more culpable than had he survived. He has not accidentally come into conflict with the driver - he made a series of conscious decisions, accepted risks, and now he isn\'t around to face up to the consequences, the driver is taking ALL the blame. 1. He CHOSE to ride on a dual carriageway and not the cycle path provided by the railway. 2. He CHOSE not to wear a cycle helmet, possibly leading to greater injury. As a scaffolder was he not more aware than most of the need to wear head protection? 3. He CHOSE to jump a red light, and possibly failed to see or hear the vehicle into whose path he strayed. Much has been made of the speed involved - but both roads are dual carriageways, which are often 70 mph. The 30 mph is an figure which is supposed to be the maximum SAFE limit for this road. How many other drivers have been caught exceeding the limit, without having accidents? It appears to me the only thing which made this driver\'s SPEED unsafe was the presence of Jordan on his bike, after he jumped a red light. Much has been made too of the possibility of the driver texting. Could somebody explain how she managed to drive at 45 mph, and negotiate the curve leading into the junction without hitting other vehicles or simply driving off the road? What really concerns me is that the prosecutor does not actually seem to have firm evidence that she WAS texting...

Mr Jenkins told jurors she was sending a message back when the accident occurred. \"Although she was going through green lights, we suggest she was doing that in excess of the speed limit, something like 40 -45mph which is quite dangerous. \"If she was doing that and texting, that is certainly dangerous because she wasn\'t looking ahead.\"

IF? I thought from comments I have read here that it was 100% certainty! In asking that the driver is \"made an example of\" I suggest that what you are asking is that she receives a punishment far in excess of what she deserves, simply to appease your own grief or anger. I hope the judge is not so shallow! Finally to those that say speeding is as dangerous as carrying a loaded gun, then jumping a red light is like pulling the trigger when the safety catch is off. I\'m sorry but that is a sad fact which the family will have to live with.

Martin wrote:
Emily, Keira is hopefully going to be jailed because she killed someone. She had received several prior FPNs for speeding, yet did not learn her lesson, and continued to drive recklessly. The previous fines did not work, so jail is the only answer, and it will hopefully set an example to other reckless drivers.

laura cooke wrote:

emily wrote: I have read lots of these comments and what i am going to ask is have any of you actually been through this?? I know a young man has died and his family truly devastated BUT do you honestly beleive this wont of affected Kiera and her family. I am speaking from experience and it is true the media do not tell the whole truth they pick out the juicy bits and print them. Kiera was obviously advised to plead NOT GUILTY and that advice would of been given by a barrister. I don\\\'t see what good it is going to do anyone her going to jail but in order to appease the family that will be the sentence. Unless you have actually experienced any of this then keep you pathetic comments to yourself. As someone said HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY SHE KILLED well let me ask you HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY FACING A PRISON SENTENCE??? everyone is so easy to judge well let me tell you never say never because i honestly thought i would never be sat in my position and im sure Keira\\\'s family thought the same way as me. My message to Kiera is try not to worry hun as bad as it is not going to be as bad as you think. Those commenting on this site don\\\'t know how it feels and lets hope they never have to.

how dare you. maybe the media did pick out the juicy bits as you so put it, but if you read the comments carefully she has had 3 speeding offences and was using her phone. Maybe she wouldn\'t have to face prison if she did not do the crime. Its not only that fact she killed this young lad its the fact that she obviously does not learn from her mistakes from speeding the first, second or even the third time. Maybe she will learn her lessons by going to prison for killing a lad at such a young age. I personally knew this lad and it hasn\'t been easy on any of his friends or family. people like you make me sick!!!!

emily wrote:

Martin wrote:
Emily, Keira is hopefully going to be jailed because she killed someone. She had received several prior FPNs for speeding, yet did not learn her lesson, and continued to drive recklessly. The previous fines did not work, so jail is the only answer, and it will hopefully set an example to other reckless drivers.

so tell me WHAT is anyone going to achieve by Keira going to prison. You are all so pathetic. So is it the fact that you have never sped or the fact you have never been caught. Keira has to live with this for the rest of her life that is punishment in herself. Im not sayin she shouldnt be punished in some way but can you honestly answer me as to what good prison will do. I am sorry if i offend you but you would think quiet differently if it was one of your own family who was facing this. I have been on both sides of the fence so can comment on both sides. Jail wont solve anything its not like she is going to drive around looking for someone to kill is she, its not going to bring the young lad back. If you look at the news something like this happens every single day if she had tuned in her radio or reached for a drink would there still of been the same response. Belive me it could happen to any one of you so at least show some compassion.

isaak hunt wrote:
jail the bint

Bea Smith wrote:
Get the lip balm out Miss C!

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laura cooke wrote:

Dave wrote:
The worst thing in this case was the nauseating "statement" read out by the female relative outside the court. Why do attention seeking dimbos like her persist in taking advantage of these sort of incidents ? The only reason I can think of is to get themselves on "telly".

well if you are talking about jordans sister than have some respect loser

Paul wrote:
One of the things that REALLY enforces my utter lack of desire to live back in the UK again is the constant self-righteous indignation by a nanny-state of wanton, erst-while individuals. What I mean by this is all the drivel about her texting when the emphasis should be put upon the idiot that jumped the red light! It was HIS decision to ignore the signal and it is his fate to accept the consequences of his arrogance. I've lived here for nigh on 30 years and guess what? I don't know of one single accident caused by cell phone usage. Now, that's not to say it doesn't happen and we all get annoyed here by those pootling along below the speed limit whilst yakking on the phone but maybe that's the point? People here take responsibility for themselves as opposed to relying on the nanny state to do everything for them. And that's why we have such a better standard of living and life here rather than that back home in the UK. (

Back home

indeed: not likely, mates. This is home!)

jon o wrote:
The lad lost his life for cycling thorugh a red light.
The majority here seem to want to destroy another life becasue the lady was driving through a GREEN light.
Cyclists dont seem to think the law of the road applies to them but they dont have a license that can be taken away.
I often rode my bike through a red light but made sure nothing was coming as i would obviously not expect the motorist to be locked up for my wrong doing (i took responsibility for my actions)
Its is a terrible tragedy but the fact is simple.
The chap rode through a RED light.
The lady drove through a GREEN light.
I definately dont think that a custodial sentance helps anyone.
it wont make me feel safer in the community even when riding my bike into West Quay on a saturday. 9which will probably be quicker these days with the soton council desperately trying to make sure no one drives any where any more.
Perhaps MORE traffic lights will help...

emily wrote:
Everyone on here only knows what they have read, i am not making any excuses for dangerous driving what i am saying is sending her to prison aint gonna do jack for no one and if you are callous enough to wish that on a young girl then god help this world. No one has said she has not done wrong but belive me do not belive everything you read. You are small minded people with nothing better to do. Look at the whole picture 1st. It is sooooooo easy for people to judge were you there in the court to see her show no remorse have you been in contact with her the past year to see how this has afffected her im sure the answer to my questions will be NO. DO NOT think for one minute she will ever forget that day. Fair enough if she had not been going that bit faster it may have been avoided BUT had the lad not gone through the red light or had been wearing an helmet then it also might of been avoided. It is my personal opinion that sending her to jail will do no good to no one can you honestly say it will.

A Friend wrote:
Keira started her sentence the day of the accident and yes it was an accident. I have known Kiera since she was a little girl and she is being made a scape goat. How many of you can honestly say that you have not picked up a mobile phone whilst driving or lit a cigarette, or changed channel on the radio or sneezed or ate at the wheel. come on people, we have all been guilty of a lapse in concentration when driving but the truth is Keira is the scape-goat here and this was a tragic accident and the young lad did go through a red light. A very sad sequence of events. Look at the papers yesterday with the police being caught on camera not holding the steering wheel - did he get jailed.... Nope, just a driving ban and his face in the papers. Need I say more. Ban everything in the car from car sterios, smoking, eating, etc. And, how many Mum\'s do you see looking in the back seat talking to their kids while they are still driving ! Oh, and what about people arguing in cars amongs other things?????

Squashme wrote:

A Friend wrote: Keira started her sentence the day of the accident and yes it was an accident. I have known Kiera since she was a little girl and she is being made a scape goat. How many of you can honestly say that you have not picked up a mobile phone whilst driving or lit a cigarette, or changed channel on the radio or sneezed or ate at the wheel. come on people, we have all been guilty of a lapse in concentration when driving but the truth is Keira is the scape-goat here and this was a tragic accident and the young lad did go through a red light. A very sad sequence of events. Look at the papers yesterday with the police being caught on camera not holding the steering wheel - did he get jailed.... Nope, just a driving ban and his face in the papers. Need I say more. Ban everything in the car from car sterios, smoking, eating, etc. And, how many Mum\\\'s do you see looking in the back seat talking to their kids while they are still driving ! Oh, and what about people arguing in cars amongs other things?????

You motorists are unbelievable whiners. Like a bunch of teenage schoolkids. So \"everybody does it\" and it\'s SO UNFAIR that one of you should suffer. The only problem that you can see is that the cyclist broke a law, which led to the motorist being caught for breaking at least 2 laws. Oh, whinge, whinge, it means that the cyclist gets off scot-free, except that he\'s dead, isn\'t he? You really think that this will encourage red-light jumping? Really? If Kiera had driven over the speed limit while texting, and had hit an innocent car, which had not jumped a red light, and had killed someone in the car, she would have been in bad trouble, wouldn\'t she? 100% negligent in all probability. So she has killed a cyclist who jumped a red light. That means that the cyclist\'s actions will mean that he shares the negligence. This does not mean that Kiera was not negligent at all, just that she will not be held 100% negligent. It is ridiculous to suggest that she should avoid all blame because \"he started it\". I can almost understand why some cyclists ride on the pavement, to avoid the danger from texting, phoning, eating, drinking, shouting, emotionally-disturbe d, arguing, smoking, litter-throwing, channel-surfing, self-centred motorists. And that is ignoring the plain aggressive, malicious, violent, drugged or drunk drivers. Yes, \"everybody does it\" and there but for the grace of God go you. Just remember that. Risk your own lives if you wish, but you have no right to risk the lives of others, despite the law usually being soft on you.

A friend of Kiera wrote:
Hi Kiera, Please be strong throughout your ordeal for the sake of your lovely daughter, your family and yourself, you are worth millions more than most of the people who are so negative in all of this. You have been suffering throughout all of this. Be strong, we all love you and are all behind you 200%. We know this could have happened to millions of people throughout the UK but you are the one suffering. No matter what happens my darling, your little girl will be there for you and you will always be her mummy so be strong for her and for yourself. You don\'t deserve this hell you are going through and please remember that this could have happened to thousands of people but you are the one suffering along with the boys family and friends. This is a terrible tragedy and we all feel for you all. Most of the above negative quotes should be trashed as I bet they have worse skeletons in their cupboards. Let them stand in front of judge and jury and see if they come out clean - I doubt it very much so please disregard all the crap and be the loving mother you always have been and always will be. You have been through enough. Will be praying for you all ****

rosie wrote:
well if i remember rightly i am sure kiera's brother was also involved in an incident where a young boy lost his life makes you wonder what owning a hotel and having money does for you

emily wrote:

laura cooke wrote:

emily wrote: I have read lots of these comments and what i am going to ask is have any of you actually been through this?? I know a young man has died and his family truly devastated BUT do you honestly beleive this wont of affected Kiera and her family. I am speaking from experience and it is true the media do not tell the whole truth they pick out the juicy bits and print them. Kiera was obviously advised to plead NOT GUILTY and that advice would of been given by a barrister. I don\\\'t see what good it is going to do anyone her going to jail but in order to appease the family that will be the sentence. Unless you have actually experienced any of this then keep you pathetic comments to yourself. As someone said HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY SHE KILLED well let me ask you HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF IT WAS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY FACING A PRISON SENTENCE??? everyone is so easy to judge well let me tell you never say never because i honestly thought i would never be sat in my position and im sure Keira\\\'s family thought the same way as me. My message to Kiera is try not to worry hun as bad as it is not going to be as bad as you think. Those commenting on this site don\\\'t know how it feels and lets hope they never have to.

how dare you. maybe the media did pick out the juicy bits as you so put it, but if you read the comments carefully she has had 3 speeding offences and was using her phone. Maybe she wouldn\'t have to face prison if she did not do the crime. Its not only that fact she killed this young lad its the fact that she obviously does not learn from her mistakes from speeding the first, second or even the third time. Maybe she will learn her lessons by going to prison for killing a lad at such a young age. I personally knew this lad and it hasn\'t been easy on any of his friends or family. people like you make me sick!!!!

I dare because i have experienced unlike your self who is just having your two penneth in. Yes she had 3 sppeding tickets but as i have read he went through a red light and was not wearing a protective helmet Keira didn't go out that morning to have an accident, and the harsh reality of life is it aint gonna bring the young lad back what is anyone going to gain and i have to add that its PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK

Martin wrote:
To "Friend of Kiera", this was not an "accident", it was a collision between two people who had broken the law. Unfortunately one of them died. Kiera should have known better because she had previous fines for reckless driving, and should have learnt her lesson, yet she still continued to drive recklessly. Please stop insulting everyone by calling it an accident.

Dave wrote:

laura cooke wrote:

Dave wrote: The worst thing in this case was the nauseating "statement" read out by the female relative outside the court. Why do attention seeking dimbos like her persist in taking advantage of these sort of incidents ? The only reason I can think of is to get themselves on "telly".

well if you are talking about jordans sister than have some respect loser

Thats her.Sorry I didnt mean to spoil her 5 minutes of fame.Bet she didnt write that statement herself............. .........

Kim wrote:
Laura Cooke you say Emily knows nothing yet its you that knows nothing.Because what your really saying is its ok to jump a red light,which seems to be the view of so many on here.So what you are really saying is its ok to jump the lights and if you get hit its the other persons fault.I THINK NOT!

Clare wrote:
Sorry Annie Droid , you are being well out of order! Have you got any brothers? If it was your brother who had been killed how do you think you would feel. Do you really think you would like people commenting on your brother like alot of the people here have done. This comments page has turned into a big slagging match which is a disgrace. Do you really thing Jordans sister wanted to read the statement?!?! No, i don't! Do you not think you should repect the family of the the young man that died?!?! I certainly think so!...and do you seriously think that Jordans sister is lapping up the comment!?!? No! At the end of the day, she has lost her brother, her parent have lost there son! And my reconing is that she read the statement because others in teh family probably couldn't face it. Do you really think Kiera going to jail,or all this publicity and comments are going to help this family move on with their lives?!? No! They just wanted answers as to what happened to their brother/son on the day he was killed, as would do you if it was a member of your family. So please show some respect, it's not a hard thing to do!! To all of Jordans family and friends, i am so sorry for your loss and i am also so sorry that people are so incensitive as to post such harsh comments on here. I pray that one day you will be able to cope with what's happened and try and move on from this x

Tony wrote:
Was it proved \\\"beyond reasonable doubt\\\" that she was texting. From what I have read it was not. Surely there should be comprehensive data stating which cell mast handled the text. I am amazed that so many people see this as black and white. All those who scream \\\"she was speeding\\\" well most people take that corner at 40. Are you going to lock them up too? Those who want her in jail, put your hands in your pockets and find the £50,000. As for Jordan, How many times can you jump those lights before you get wiped out. He was an accident waiting to happen. Thank god it wasnt me he involved in his risky behavior.

Dan wrote:

Tony wrote: Was it proved \\\"beyond reasonable doubt\\\" that she was texting. From what I have read it was not. Surely there should be comprehensive data stating which cell mast handled the text. I am amazed that so many people see this as black and white. All those who scream \\\"she was speeding\\\" well most people take that corner at 40. Are you going to lock them up too? Those who want her in jail, put your hands in your pockets and find the £50,000. As for Jordan, How many times can you jump those lights before you get wiped out. He was an accident waiting to happen. Thank god it wasnt me he involved in his risky behavior.

I assume you know jordan, and thus you know that he jumped the lights on a regular basis do you? Also, Annie Droid- my sister was not "lapping up" the media, as you so succintly put it- we were told the media was outside, and thus that we needed to make a statement on behalf of the family- otherwise they would be open to write what they wish. Bear in mind that we know that Jordan (my brother) went through a red light- however, he stopped at the apex (the kerb between two conflicting roads, and thus anyone paying attention would have seen him. Many of you also need to bear in mind that we did not bring this case- the CPS did- this is not a witchunt on our part, we merely wished to see justice done, as it was the least jordan deserved. The fact is Miss Coultas was driving at high speed (45 was only the agreed speed in court, she could have been going faster) and texting (i.e. not looking at the road) which in a vehicle is dangerous, as hitting someone will kill them- a bike is not a dangerous weapon is ridden carelessly. By all means debate the issues, but please make sure that you are well informed enough to make them, and also sensitive to both sides of this argument, as immature and incendiary remarks will hurt those directly involved.

Annie Droid wrote:

Dan wrote:

Tony wrote: Was it proved \\\"beyond reasonable doubt\\\" that she was texting. From what I have read it was not. Surely there should be comprehensive data stating which cell mast handled the text. I am amazed that so many people see this as black and white. All those who scream \\\"she was speeding\\\" well most people take that corner at 40. Are you going to lock them up too? Those who want her in jail, put your hands in your pockets and find the £50,000. As for Jordan, How many times can you jump those lights before you get wiped out. He was an accident waiting to happen. Thank god it wasnt me he involved in his risky behavior.

I assume you know jordan, and thus you know that he jumped the lights on a regular basis do you? Also, Annie Droid- my sister was not "lapping up" the media, as you so succintly put it- we were told the media was outside, and thus that we needed to make a statement on behalf of the family- otherwise they would be open to write what they wish. Bear in mind that we know that Jordan (my brother) went through a red light- however, he stopped at the apex (the kerb between two conflicting roads, and thus anyone paying attention would have seen him. Many of you also need to bear in mind that we did not bring this case- the CPS did- this is not a witchunt on our part, we merely wished to see justice done, as it was the least jordan deserved. The fact is Miss Coultas was driving at high speed (45 was only the agreed speed in court, she could have been going faster) and texting (i.e. not looking at the road) which in a vehicle is dangerous, as hitting someone will kill them- a bike is not a dangerous weapon is ridden carelessly. By all means debate the issues, but please make sure that you are well informed enough to make them, and also sensitive to both sides of this argument, as immature and incendiary remarks will hurt those directly involved.

Dan, I understand that you have lost a brother and you have my deepest sympathy. If a story appears in the press then it will be debated. There are issues that haven't been cleared up or proved but have been used to promote readership etc. I will defend free speech and oppose censorship, that is what I have done in my previous posts. I think that as a family you may have been let down by your legal team or whoever told you you had to give a statement to the press - they will print whatever will sell most copies of their paper, they will not let facts get in the way of that. Objective people won't see this case as simply black or white but there are lots of 'What ifs' banded about. I've already stated The most important what if.

Freedom of speech is a gift that we should all enjoy, but at least be gregarious and measured enough to give balance to your argument- otherwise your comments seem shallow

we were told the media was outside, and thus that we needed to make a statement on behalf of the family- otherwise they would be open to write what they wish.