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How much do you earn?
9:00am Sunday 3rd February 2008
Comments (22)IT'S the question we all want answered but are too polite to ask; how much do you earn? The answer is often surprising and the comparisons are truly fascinating.
For example, did you know that a RAF pilot and a pole dancer have more in common than just flying through the air? Well they both take home roughly £30,000 to £40,000, according to a recent survey of wages.
The pay packets of train drivers (£37,231) far outstrip paramedics (£21,720), nurses (£23,044), secondary school teachers (£31,340) and even dentists (£31,747).
Criticism of company directors for their "fat cat" salaries seems justified according to figures from the Office for National Statistics.
Directors and chief executives of major organisations saw their salaries increase by more than 30 per cent to £212,910 to make theirs the best paid job in Britain - perhaps after Premier League football stars who will earn on average a whopping £1.1m this year.
The sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe last year labelled Chelsea captain John Terry's salary - believed to be £6.8m a year - "obscene".
More surprisingly fillers and drillers enjoyed a 24.7 per cent increase on their earnings last year taking them to £31,747, thanks to the property boom.
Skilled workers in Southampton - which has seen thousands of new flats go up in recent years - are in high demand according to local recruitment agencies and training colleges.
Andy Gannon, careers manager at Southampton City College, said many workers unsatisfied with their office jobs were switching industries for a more lucrative career.
"We are finding adults who have done four or five years in an office job coming to us saying they want to learn a trade or a skill. They often talk about having made the wrong decisions and they've realised that they might be happier doing other things," he said.
"They probably wouldn't have as much money as if they were in full-time work, but there is financial support to help them through those studies and in the long run they could be earning a lot more money by working in high demand industries."
The manager of leading Southampton recruitment agency, who did not want to be named, revealed there had been a downturn in the IT industry with many jobs being taken by migrants willing to work for less money.
"The country has been flooded with highly skilled people over the last few years and that has pretty much knocked out the IT industry, so things are really shifting. People coming into the country will work for less and you'll find jobs with a base salary of £25,000 a few years ago has now dropped to £18,000 for the same kind of skills," he said.
While it might only bring cold comfort, another survey found money doesn't always bring happiness, with 90 per cent of wealthy families who earn £88,000 a year feeling that they don't make enough.
Instead they say they would need to earn about £150,000 a year, own more than one property and send their children to a private school before they felt rich.
WHO EARNS WHAT
1. £0 to £10,000:Cleaners, hairdressers, some agricultural labourers, people on benefits, fast food restaurant staff, school cooks, fine artists, holiday representatives, swimming pool attendants, broadcasting/film runners.
2. £10,001 to £20,000:Manual workers, sewer cleaners, call centre staff, mortuary assistants, farmers, electronic assembly line workers, nursery and care workers, imams, Army privates, bus drivers, checkout staff, landscape designers, fishermen, charity fundraisers, junior civil servants, local government administrators, soil scientists, florists, counsellors, air cabin crew, miners.
3. £20,001 to £30,000:Junior MI5 officers, rabbis, vicars, social workers, NHS nurses, naval cooks, electricians, carpenters, binmen, international aid workers, health service managers, media buyers, plant breeders, textile designers, museum administrators, lorry drivers, map makers, journalists.
4. £30,001 to £40,000: Newly qualified RAF pilots, London Tube drivers, some television presenters, London police officers, pole dancers, sandwich shop managers, bishops, London cab drivers, vets, paramedics, architects, diplomats, timber merchants, trading standards officers, zookeepers, probation officers, opticians, literary agents, immigration officers.
5. £40,001 to £50,000:Air traffic controllers, solicitors, RAF Flight Lieutenants, theatre managers, office managers, foresters, engineers, TV producers.
6. £50,001 to £75,000:Marketing and senior managers, senior police officers, commercial airline pilots, Royal Navy captains, education administrators, top PAs, fashion designers, town planners, MPs, senior social workers, tax inspectors, medical sales representatives.
7. £75,001 to £100,000: Senior managers, senior civil servants, Army brigadiers, secondary school heads, celebrity stylists, some plumbers, advertising executives, senior PRs, distribution managers, accountants.
8. £100,001 to £500,000:GPs, High Court judges, Prime Minister, business whizzkids, Cabinet ministers, Chief of Defence Staff, Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, chief executives, senior company secretaries, NHS chief executives, private psychotherapists, financial advisers, quarry managers.
9. £500,001 to £1,000,000:Director General of the BBC, heads of larger companies, including the managing director of Arsenal and the chief executive of Sainsbury's.
10. Over £1,000,000: Chief executives of the UK's biggest firms, celebrities, footballers, bestselling authors, football managers, senior solicitors, investment bankers.
Your Say YourDaily Echo
paul berton, says...
10:31am Sun 3 Feb 08
1. £0 to £10,000:Cleaners, hairdressers, some agricultural labourers, people on benefits , fast food restaurant staff, school cooks, fine artists, holiday representatives, swimming pool attendants, broadcasting/film runners.
Benefit scroungers earn SOD ALL[/bold, they scrounge off the state
Gazbo Stunt, Eatleigh says...
11:02am Sun 3 Feb 08
£20,000 to £30,000 for collecting rubbish AND most have additional afternoon jobs.
That's more than the £10,000 to £20,000 a soldier earns and they are prepared to risk their lives!
The whole thing's a complete joke.
paul berton, says...
11:07am Sun 3 Feb 08
Gazbo Stunt wrote:Just an idea, dont join the army if you dont want to risk your life
..and Binmen went on stike because they were "low paid"!
£20,000 to £30,000 for collecting rubbish AND most have additional afternoon jobs.
That's more than the £10,000 to £20,000 a soldier earns and they are prepared to risk their lives!
The whole thing's a complete joke.
Idiot
R, Baghdad says...
11:23am Sun 3 Feb 08
paul berton, says...
11:32am Sun 3 Feb 08
An angry soton resident wrote:If you join the army you know what the pay will be, you know what you might be asked to do
paul berton wrote:This chap is not an idiot. The whole balance of it is \'crap\'. I\'m sure he doesn\'t want to be in the army but the fact is these people risk their lives, willingly, yet they are paid less than a person who comes round and empties your rubbish. Bin men should get less not more.
Gazbo Stunt wrote: ..and Binmen went on stike because they were \"low paid\"! £20,000 to £30,000 for collecting rubbish AND most have additional afternoon jobs. That\'s more than the £10,000 to £20,000 a soldier earns and they are prepared to risk their lives! The whole thing\'s a complete joke.Just an idea, dont join the army if you dont want to risk your life Idiot
Therefore you (they) have nothing to moan about
Boatman, Marchwood says...
2:09pm Sun 3 Feb 08
1. £0 to £10,000:Cleaners, hairdressers, some agricultural labourers, people on benefits, fast food restaurant staff, school cooks, fine artists, holiday representatives, swimming pool attendants, broadcasting/film runners.
Anyone working fulltime (35 hours p.w. or more) will either earn mor than £10k or their employers are committing the offence of paying less than the National Minimum Wage!
Gordon the Binny, Romsey says...
3:29pm Sun 3 Feb 08
You obviously haven't done a bin round in Millbrook!
Afghanistan by comparison is a walk in the park!
George, says...
3:43pm Sun 3 Feb 08
Gordon the Binny wrote:Yeh, but have you walked in a park recently? Millbrook bin rounds are a WI tea dance by comparison
An angry soton resident wrote: " risk their lives, willingly, yet they are paid less than a person who comes round and empties your rubbish. Bin men should get less not more."
You obviously haven't done a bin round in Millbrook!
Afghanistan by comparison is a walk in the park!
Our brave employees, says...
8:30pm Sun 3 Feb 08
We have a professional army, not a band of plucky volunteers or conscripts forced to protect our shores.
They have made the decision and taken the queen's shilling. Did I say queen's ? I mean taxpayers' salary. We offer pay to people to do this task, they take it. End of story.
hmm, says...
8:39am Mon 4 Feb 08
paul berton sucks wrote:Im with Paul berton on this one
paul berton wrote:Oh paul you are a bit of a twerp ain't
An angry soton resident wrote:If you join the army you know what the pay willpaulThis chap is not an idiot. The whole balance of it is
berton wrote:Gazbo Stunt wrote: ..andJust
Binmen went on stike because they were \"low paid\"! £20,000 to £30,000
for collecting rubbish AND most have additional afternoon jobs. That\'s
more than the £10,000 to £20,000 a soldier earns and they are prepared
to risk their lives! The whole thing\'s a complete joke.
an idea, dont join the army if you dont want to risk your life
Idiot
\'crap\'. I\'m sure he doesn\'t want to be in the army but the fact is
these people risk their lives, willingly, yet they are paid less than a
person who comes round and empties your rubbish. Bin men should get
less not more.
be, you know what you might be asked to do Therefore you (they) have
nothing to moan about
ya?! Go crawl back in ur cave or put your head down the toilet and
flush it to refresh the one brain cell you have.
They knew the pay when they signed up, therefore have nothing to complain about.
John B, Eastleigh says...
8:39am Mon 4 Feb 08
George, says...
10:05am Mon 4 Feb 08
hmm wrote:Does the military recruitment process include a comparison of salaries against other sectors such as rubbish collection? I think both you and Paul are missing the point: there's a huge imbalance, and these guys, even if they're accepting it, do have a right to be disgruntled. If it's just accepted as "that's the way it is, stop moaning about it", the imbalance stands no chance of being addressed, as opposed to the virtually no chance it stands now
paul berton sucks wrote:Im with Paul berton on this one
paul berton wrote:Oh paul you are a bit of a twerp ain't
An angry soton resident wrote:If you join the army you know what the pay willpaulThis chap is not an idiot. The whole balance of it is
berton wrote:Gazbo Stunt wrote: ..andJust
Binmen went on stike because they were \"low paid\"! £20,000 to £30,000
for collecting rubbish AND most have additional afternoon jobs. That\'s
more than the £10,000 to £20,000 a soldier earns and they are prepared
to risk their lives! The whole thing\'s a complete joke.
an idea, dont join the army if you dont want to risk your life
Idiot
\'crap\'. I\'m sure he doesn\'t want to be in the army but the fact is
these people risk their lives, willingly, yet they are paid less than a
person who comes round and empties your rubbish. Bin men should get
less not more.
be, you know what you might be asked to do Therefore you (they) have
nothing to moan about
ya?! Go crawl back in ur cave or put your head down the toilet and
flush it to refresh the one brain cell you have.
They knew the pay when they signed up, therefore have nothing to complain about.
hmm, says...
11:28am Mon 4 Feb 08
George wrote:I call people like you Victims of Life
hmm wrote:Does the military recruitment process include a comparison of salaries against other sectors such as rubbish collection? I think both you and Paul are missing the point: there's a huge imbalance, and these guys, even if they're accepting it, do have a right to be disgruntled. If it's just accepted as "that's the way it is, stop moaning about it", the imbalance stands no chance of being addressed, as opposed to the virtually no chance it stands now
paul berton sucks wrote:Im with Paul berton on this one
paul berton wrote:Oh paul you are a bit of a twerp ain't
An angry soton resident wrote:If you join the army you know what the pay willpaulThis chap is not an idiot. The whole balance of it is
berton wrote:Gazbo Stunt wrote: ..andJust
Binmen went on stike because they were \"low paid\"! £20,000 to £30,000
for collecting rubbish AND most have additional afternoon jobs. That\'s
more than the £10,000 to £20,000 a soldier earns and they are prepared
to risk their lives! The whole thing\'s a complete joke.
an idea, dont join the army if you dont want to risk your life
Idiot
\'crap\'. I\'m sure he doesn\'t want to be in the army but the fact is
these people risk their lives, willingly, yet they are paid less than a
person who comes round and empties your rubbish. Bin men should get
less not more.
be, you know what you might be asked to do Therefore you (they) have
nothing to moan about
ya?! Go crawl back in ur cave or put your head down the toilet and
flush it to refresh the one brain cell you have.
They knew the pay when they signed up, therefore have nothing to complain about.
They just go along with things and prefer to moan rather than moving on
I wouldnt join the army if i wanted more money and would become a bin man or something that offered better pay
If no one as joining the army they would put their pay up, simple
George, says...
11:35am Mon 4 Feb 08
hmm wrote:I know you do. That's because you're incapable of being disagreed with without resorting to insults. Your logic here is flawed. You have said we "victims of life" just go along with things and prefer to moan rather than move on, and at the same time berating soldiers for not doing so. Which is it? Shouls people just put up with the status quo or not? See if you can manage to explain this paradox without calling me any names
George wrote:I call
hmm wrote:Does the military recruitment process include a
paul berton sucks wrote:Im with Paul
paul berton wrote:Oh paul you are a bit of a twerp ain't
An angry soton resident wrote:If you join the army you know what the pay willpaulThis chap is not an idiot. The whole balance of it is
berton wrote:Gazbo Stunt wrote: ..andJust
Binmen went on stike because they were \"low paid\"! £20,000 to £30,000
for collecting rubbish AND most have additional afternoon jobs. That\'s
more than the £10,000 to £20,000 a soldier earns and they are prepared
to risk their lives! The whole thing\'s a complete joke.
an idea, dont join the army if you dont want to risk your life
Idiot
\'crap\'. I\'m sure he doesn\'t want to be in the army but the fact is
these people risk their lives, willingly, yet they are paid less than a
person who comes round and empties your rubbish. Bin men should get
less not more.
be, you know what you might be asked to do Therefore you (they) have
nothing to moan about
ya?! Go crawl back in ur cave or put your head down the toilet and
flush it to refresh the one brain cell you have.
berton on this one
They knew the pay when they signed up, therefore have nothing to
complain about.
comparison of salaries against other sectors such as rubbish
collection? I think both you and Paul are missing the point: there's a
huge imbalance, and these guys, even if they're
accepting it, do have a right to be
disgruntled. If it's just accepted as "that's the way it is, stop
moaning about it", the imbalance stands no chance of being addressed,
as opposed to the virtually no chance it stands now
people like you Victims of Life
They just go along with things and prefer to moan rather than moving on
I wouldnt join the army if i wanted more money and would become a bin
man or something that offered better pay
If no one as joining the army they would put their pay up, simple
George, says...
11:44am Mon 4 Feb 08
King Mush, Woolston says...
3:46pm Mon 4 Feb 08
They fight stupid no-win wars against other countries, thanks to the maniacs who govern the USA and UK. Old cliche - lions led by donkeys.
The services provide an escape for the disadvantaged youth of today and give them a purpose in life as well as a whole new social perspective as they make good loyal mates.
The pay and conditions are secondary and they have a choice when contemplating a career in the services.
Same with nursing to some degree
Gillian Burch, Highgate says...
6:44pm Thu 7 Feb 08
kieran, bristol says...
4:22pm Mon 3 Mar 08
also they no longer fight for country because this country is lost for a number of reasons i will not go into at a risk of sounding racist which im not.
Mike, Birmingham says...
8:24pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Sophie Hugh, Newland says...
9:01am Fri 23 May 08
i DISAGRRE U MIGHT THINK THAT BINMEN JUST COLLECT YOUR RUBBISH BUT THEY WEAR SCRUFFY CLOTHES AND PICK UP YOUR DIRTY DIRTY **** IN YOUR BINS EVERY MORNING AT 6:30 SO DONT TELL ME THAT U DONT THINK THEY DESERVE TO GET PAYED THAT MUCH. THEY ALSO DRIVE TO LANDFILLS AND EMPTY IT SO DONT CRITICISE THEM , BECAUSE U WOULDNT LIKE TO DO IT WOULD YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
Jamie, Coventry says...
3:12pm Mon 1 Sep 08
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An angry soton resident, says...
10:24am Sun 3 Feb 08