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Bid to demolish and rebuild museum

7:26am Monday 4th February 2008

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SOUTHAMPTON'S Solent Sky Museum could be knocked down and rebuilt as part of an apartment complex in a bid to secure its future.

Exhibits would take up the first three floors of a new seven-storey tower that would also house 50 flats, under a scheme to be considered by Southampton City Council planners tomorrow.

The museum, which tells the history of aviation in Hampshire and in particular the legend of the Spitfire, opened at the site near Ocean Village in 1984 and is one of the city's most popular tourist attractions.

But visitor numbers have dropped from a high of 40,000 a year to just 15,000 since Ocean Village was transformed into a marina dominated by luxury apartments.

Squadron Leader Alan Jones, curator of Solent Sky, said the redevelopment was needed to secure the museum's future.

Developer Kings Oak Partnership wants the sale of five studio flats, 21 one-bedroom flats and 24 two-bedroom flats to fund the new museum.

However five trees at the junction of Albert Road South and Royal Crescent Road threaten to halt the development.

The council's tree team - one of four objectors - raised concerns that no tree survey work had been submitted to support the planning application.

Two horse chestnuts, two London planes and a lime would be felled under the current plans and the tree team wants to see them retained under any redevelopment of the site.

The council's planning officer has recommended the plans are refused, however Mr Jones said he was confident of a compromise.


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pilot, pontius says...
7:56am Mon 4 Feb 08

But visitor numbers have dropped from a high of 40,000 a year to just 15,000 since Ocean Village was transformed into a marina dominated by luxury apartments.


Nothing to do with the huge cost to get into the museum then?

alpine_saint, Soton says...
8:17am Mon 4 Feb 08

Oh, I didnt realise it was still open - you never see people wandering round in there from the outside. If the museum cannot be saved, I hope the exhibits find new homes - it houses the best example of a Sandringham flyying boat in existence, and one of only two surviving Supermarine (a Southampton company) Scimitars.

Alan Mac, Southampton says...
8:19am Mon 4 Feb 08

Shame that this attraction is not located in Portsmouth,it would not have become the forgotten grubby under funded facility that this museum has become in the hands of Southampton.

hmm, says...
8:30am Mon 4 Feb 08

Hidden away no easy to read sign from the road, a new lick of paint and some advertising on buses would help

A. Milton, says...
9:35am Mon 4 Feb 08

move the ruddy thing next to the water, perhaps with a resaurant and views of the big cruise ships comming in and out, oh wait a min, that would mean that people would use it because it was of use, easy to reach and have a point.

An angry soton resident, says...
10:10am Mon 4 Feb 08

alpine_saint wrote:
Oh, I didnt realise it was still open - you never see people wandering round in there from the outside. If the museum cannot be saved, I hope the exhibits find new homes - it houses the best example of a Sandringham flyying boat in existence, and one of only two surviving Supermarine (a Southampton company) Scimitars.
The problem with this museum is it's location and the fact that, what was, ocean village has been destroyed for cheaper housing.

The museum really does need to relocate and to an area with easy access as i'm sure the toll bridge puts people of as well.

I think a nice plot near Eastleigh airport would be good for the museum.

hmm, says...
10:28am Mon 4 Feb 08

What southampton needs is a cinema/icerink/shopp
ing centre/ikea/luxury apartment/superclub/
monorail/cruise terminal/angel of the south that is lighted by a WOW factor all rolled into one

Adrian Smith, says...
11:32am Mon 4 Feb 08

hmm wrote:
Hidden away no easy to read sign from the road, a new lick of paint and some advertising on buses would help
Well this proposal does nothing to move the museum to a better location. Perhaps it should have been incorporated into West Quay 3 or somewhere near the Royal pier. Keeping it in the same location and covering it with flats will make it invisible. Oh and the parking.

steve, Bitterne says...
1:46pm Mon 4 Feb 08

What will happen to the Air Cadets that use the building, this is one of the best Squadrons in the UK and many children attend, they are taught all manor of life skills and are taught by a dedicated number of staff all willing to give up their free time. I bet the council muck them around.

Automan, Southampton says...
6:42pm Mon 4 Feb 08

In 20 years time we'll look back and lament at the loss of all our distinctive buildings in the city centre. I've not been to Solent Sky (or Hall of Aviation as I knew it) since I went briefly to the Air Training Corps in the late 80's but to build loads of flats on top seems a nonsense to me.

It's time the planning authorities got a grip and started to stop some of these ridiculous developments before they destroy the heart of the city. What next? flats on the Bargate?

Mike, So'ton says...
6:51pm Mon 4 Feb 08

Why can't it be incorporated into the new museum development at the Civic Center? After all, It used to e situated across the road from there before moving to it's current site. If you look at the industrial and aircraft museums in Manchester, they're getting a huge update and are centrally located.

happy_days, whiteley says...
8:38pm Mon 4 Feb 08

Shame on Southampton - they should be proud of this place, but it looks dirty and run down from the outside and is never promoted. I work in OV, but wouldn't know whether it is open or not. On top of the admission, you also have to pay OV parking rates.

Time to relocate, invest and promote this as part of Southampton's proud history. Why not try and move it close to the Stadium ?

Tyrone Laces, southampton says...
9:18pm Mon 4 Feb 08

pilot wrote:
But visitor numbers have dropped from a high of 40,000 a year to just 15,000 since Ocean Village was transformed into a marina dominated by luxury apartments.
Nothing to do with the huge cost to get into the museum then?
So true! I am priced out of taking my family there, this is the issue.

this is just an excuse to build on another site! the city is becoming full of flats with little or no parking.

no wonder the council want night time parking fee's, they are creating the customer base themselves with dodgy planning permission.

£5 entrance fee is too high, £3 for kids! should not be free but cheaper! pile it high and sell it cheap! price it right and people will visit!

Lord Ikea, Ikeaville says...
10:27pm Mon 4 Feb 08

flats flats flats flats flats flats flats flats WONDERFUL flats Oh WONDERFUL flats....or should it be Flat pack he he he more money for me.
I love this City Council they are building the Singapore of the UK with over priced slums-to-be but expect none of the fools that buy them to bring thier cars into the city. Would the last Sotonian leaving the City please turn off the lights.

Wade Hampton, Locks Heath says...
10:58pm Mon 4 Feb 08

I drive past this "building" almost every day. What an unappealing eye-sore it's become, very shabby and down-at-heel. It's no wonder visitor numbers are down. The wonder is that there are any visitors at all !

John, Southampton - 424 sqn ATC says...
4:01pm Tue 5 Feb 08

I am a cadet warrant officer from 424 city of southampton squadron sited at the solent skies museum, i can say that there are a fair few proposals for the museum and future of the atc. It is certain that the future of our unit is secure in one way or another, whether it be in partnership with the solent skies museum and sqn ldr(R) Alan Jones, or in a new franchise. I agree with some of the comments that advertising is the main decline of visitors. But it is also true that the state of the exterior of the building may be to blame, and with the construction of many new apartment blocks adjacent to the site, and the creation of the one way system now imposed upon albert road south, toursists and potential new recruits are being driven away.

I beleive it would be a terrible shame to demolish and re-develope this museum, especially for our unit, which at present is undergoing fantastic renovation. I would like for a petition stopping this move to be set up, and possibly a statement from alan jones, and perhaps my Officer Commanding, gary knell.

CWO JT Gore SNCO 424 sqn

romeo mike, southampton says...
5:10pm Tue 5 Feb 08

steve wrote:
What will happen to the Air Cadets that use the building, this is one of the best Squadrons in the UK and many children attend, they are taught all manor of life skills and are taught by a dedicated number of staff all willing to give up their free time. I bet the council muck them around.
Indeed the council or the museam did not even inform the squadron about this plan.it has all been done very hush hush untill monday which funnily enough happens to be just after the end date for any appeals to be raised. I am all for updating the museam dont get me wrong. But the way the action has been taken is dispicable especially due to the excellent relationship that the museam and the squadron used to have. I feel that kings oak,solent sky and the museam itself owe the air cadet organisation something a little more then the actions that have been taken so far.

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