TFLS wrote:
Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Artful Dodger wrote:
I hear that Rupert was on the radio saying that he would be getting Joe Jordan in to help out. Any news on that.

TFLS wrote:
Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Game Over wrote:
Please let this be and April Fool? Or as its Lowe and Wilde, April Fools.

And what are their grand plans to transform Saints? None I bet, just to have their grinning egos back in the limelight in a last ditch attempt to stop their shares being worth nothing in Administration.

Because that is Lowe and Wilde's only motivation. Not what is best for Southampton Football Club, but what is best for THEIR WALLET.

How has this great club sunk to the depths to have such a wretched collection of scumbags as major shareholders?

We are doomed on and off the pitch.

TFLS wrote:
Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

TFLS wrote:
Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Mick wrote:
If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Artful Dodger wrote:
I hear that Rupert was on the radio saying that he would be getting Joe Jordan in to help out. Any news on that.

John B wrote:

Mick wrote:
If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC.

It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

Jason wrote:

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

I\'m far from a Lowe fan, in fact, I hate the way he began the sad trend of putting the spotlight on the boardroom rather than the pitch. That said, it is obvious to anybody, whether they like or hate him, that you can achieve nothing unless the people who own the casting vote are actually running the club. Saints supporters, while rightly not welcoming this and particularly the timing, should also remember that this is the only way anything is ever going to get done in terms of moving the club forward and getting new investment. Anyway, this should not deflect any attention from the critical thing for our club. We need to stay up at all costs. If we go down, I feel our chance of any investment and the likelihood of starting next season with a 10 point reduction in Division 1, is very real. And I think we probably need to brace ourselves for this deduction, whatever division we\'re in next season.

Mick wrote:
If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Season ticket holder wrote:
It's time for those of us who let a vocal minority get rid of a chairman who ran the club well as a business (that is what it is) to stand up. But that does not need to happen until the end of the season. That minority does not understand commerce or how a business runs - let's make sure that those of us who do get some voice in the media - they are not the only fans. But first let's get behind the team and do everything we can to stay in the championship. COYR

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

real fan wrote:

TFLS wrote: Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Er, I am a 'real' fan and I am not behind him at all. His mistakes helped get us relegated and, therefore, he is massively responsible for us getting into this mess we are in. If he has proper plans with real investment, let them be known but until such time, he will never have my support. Supporting Saints for 25 years for the record. Not stupid, not dim-witted, not unintelligent, not naive, not happy, a shareholder and not happy that Saints are still a mess of an organisation, and will continue to be so. Saints lose (that's the correct spelling, not loose) again with this announcement. We need real backers with real money for the real fans. Clearly the mechanisms of the club established by Lowe are the root cause of us not being able to get decent investment. Shameful.

Where's Wally wrote:
My wife has just called me to say that Rupert Lowe was just having coffee with Sir David Frost and someone that she swears was Richard Branson at the coffee shop in Southampton Airport. Maybe theres something bigger afoot?

A real Saint Fan wrote:

Jason wrote:

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

I\\\'m far from a Lowe fan, in fact, I hate the way he began the sad trend of putting the spotlight on the boardroom rather than the pitch. That said, it is obvious to anybody, whether they like or hate him, that you can achieve nothing unless the people who own the casting vote are actually running the club. Saints supporters, while rightly not welcoming this and particularly the timing, should also remember that this is the only way anything is ever going to get done in terms of moving the club forward and getting new investment. Anyway, this should not deflect any attention from the critical thing for our club. We need to stay up at all costs. If we go down, I feel our chance of any investment and the likelihood of starting next season with a 10 point reduction in Division 1, is very real. And I think we probably need to brace ourselves for this deduction, whatever division we\\\'re in next season.

Totally agree. Well said..

Saint Cmpo wrote:

Where's Wally wrote: My wife has just called me to say that Rupert Lowe was just having coffee with Sir David Frost and someone that she swears was Richard Branson at the coffee shop in Southampton Airport. Maybe theres something bigger afoot?

Your wife's got a great sense of humour. April Fool!

StPete wrote:

Season ticket holder wrote: It's time for those of us who let a vocal minority get rid of a chairman who ran the club well as a business (that is what it is) to stand up. But that does not need to happen until the end of the season. That minority does not understand commerce or how a business runs - let's make sure that those of us who do get some voice in the media - they are not the only fans. But first let's get behind the team and do everything we can to stay in the championship. COYR

Well said Season Ticket Holder. This minority must be drowned out on Saturday should they put their own pride ahead of the clubs future and protest against the return of the man who will save this club. It's time for the majority to stand up and be heard on Saturday. Make sure the team is supported instead of rabid protesting against Lowe by the minority

Where's Wally wrote:
My wife has just called me to say that Rupert Lowe was just having coffee with Sir David Frost and someone that she swears was Richard Branson at the coffee shop in Southampton Airport. Maybe theres something bigger afoot?

enjoy your park football wrote:

TFLS wrote: Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

So Rupert Lowe makes his announcement on Aprils fool day. Says it all really dont it! I hope the real fans enjoy there park football next season,all 2,500 of them in League 1 next season. Go on Crouch and Pearson,the balls in your court,take the Saints down. You have four weeks to do as much damage as you can,go for it. Nice to see the share price is coming down again. Keep coming down baby.l love it.

Brian wrote:
I understand from the information that investors are also included in the takeover. I hope so

Jonny B wrote:

Sheitma Pance wrote:

Where's Wally wrote: My wife has just called me to say that Rupert Lowe was just having coffee with Sir David Frost and someone that she swears was Richard Branson at the coffee shop in Southampton Airport. Maybe theres something bigger afoot?

My Brother works there and called me to say the same thing! I thought he was joking but perhaps there's something in it..

T'is true. I flew in on an internal flight and saw the three of them together along with some dishy blonde bird. I phoned the echo but they couldn't get their sorry a***s down here on time. This was all about two hours ago now.

mullingar wrote:

Jonny B wrote:

Sheitma Pance wrote:

Where's Wally wrote: My wife has just called me to say that Rupert Lowe was just having coffee with Sir David Frost and someone that she swears was Richard Branson at the coffee shop in Southampton Airport. Maybe theres something bigger afoot?

My Brother works there and called me to say the same thing! I thought he was joking but perhaps there's something in it..

T'is true. I flew in on an internal flight and saw the three of them together along with some dishy blonde bird. I phoned the echo but they couldn't get their sorry a***s down here on time. This was all about two hours ago now.

Do you really think that they would be talking about investment in SFC in the coffee shop at Soton Airport? Doubt it!

Andy P wrote:

StPete wrote:

Season ticket holder wrote: It's time for those of us who let a vocal minority get rid of a chairman who ran the club well as a business (that is what it is) to stand up. But that does not need to happen until the end of the season. That minority does not understand commerce or how a business runs - let's make sure that those of us who do get some voice in the media - they are not the only fans. But first let's get behind the team and do everything we can to stay in the championship. COYR

Well said Season Ticket Holder. This minority must be drowned out on Saturday should they put their own pride ahead of the clubs future and protest against the return of the man who will save this club. It's time for the majority to stand up and be heard on Saturday. Make sure the team is supported instead of rabid protesting against Lowe by the minority

Yes make sure the massive 2,500 minority stand up on Saturday. Funny though,when the 22k majority stood up and demanded Lowe out,the 2,500 just sat there. Enjoy your park football minority,you clearly deseves each other. Oh and by the way,that white round shaped object is actually called a FOOTBALL,minority!

mullingar wrote:

Jonny B wrote:

Sheitma Pance wrote:

Where's Wally wrote: My wife has just called me to say that Rupert Lowe was just having coffee with Sir David Frost and someone that she swears was Richard Branson at the coffee shop in Southampton Airport. Maybe theres something bigger afoot?

My Brother works there and called me to say the same thing! I thought he was joking but perhaps there's something in it..

T'is true. I flew in on an internal flight and saw the three of them together along with some dishy blonde bird. I phoned the echo but they couldn't get their sorry a***s down here on time. This was all about two hours ago now.

Do you really think that they would be talking about investment in SFC in the coffee shop at Soton Airport? Doubt it!

Supporter since 1953 wrote:

A real Saint Fan wrote:

Jason wrote:

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

I\\\\\\\'m far from a Lowe fan, in fact, I hate the way he began the sad trend of putting the spotlight on the boardroom rather than the pitch. That said, it is obvious to anybody, whether they like or hate him, that you can achieve nothing unless the people who own the casting vote are actually running the club. Saints supporters, while rightly not welcoming this and particularly the timing, should also remember that this is the only way anything is ever going to get done in terms of moving the club forward and getting new investment. Anyway, this should not deflect any attention from the critical thing for our club. We need to stay up at all costs. If we go down, I feel our chance of any investment and the likelihood of starting next season with a 10 point reduction in Division 1, is very real. And I think we probably need to brace ourselves for this deduction, whatever division we\\\\\\\'re in next season.

Totally agree. Well said..

Keep the faith Jason and Real Saints Fan. The half-year results to 31 December show the company has a net worth of £6.5M. Administration is miles away. The problem is that the players remaining after the crown jewels were sold are grossly overpaid - performances and league position demonstrate that. If the crown jewels hadn\'t been sold, the bank really would have been screaming. Teams like Scunthorpe and Blackpool have proved that you can survive on a shoe-string. If we survive this season, the whole squad apart from Kelvin Davis and Stern John (if we can retain him) should be shown the door - we\'ve spent fortunes on underachievers. Div 1 is not the end of the world by the way. Our infrastructure would always make us reasonably attractive to a buyer.

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

real fan wrote:

TFLS wrote:
Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Er, I am a \'real\' fan and I am not behind him at all. His mistakes helped get us relegated and, therefore, he is massively responsible for us getting into this mess we are in.

If he has proper plans with real investment, let them be known but until such time, he will never have my support.

Supporting Saints for 25 years for the record. Not stupid, not dim-witted, not unintelligent, not naive, not happy, a shareholder and not happy that Saints are still a mess of an organisation, and will continue to be so.

Saints lose (that\'s the correct spelling, not loose) again with this announcement.

We need real backers with real money for the real fans. Clearly the mechanisms of the club established by Lowe are the root cause of us not being able to get decent investment.

Shameful.

Lowe fan wrote:

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

Excuse me but who was the chairman when we had 32,000 vs Arsenal at St Mary's and 25,000 at the Millenium stadium......???? Short memories boys and girls....

enjoy your park football wrote:

Lowe fan wrote:

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

Excuse me but who was the chairman when we had 32,000 vs Arsenal at St Mary's and 25,000 at the Millenium stadium......???? Short memories boys and girls....

Thick or what. Yes you are going to get 32,000 against MK Dons now aint ya,next season. Saints used to sell out EVERY GAME when Lawrie Mac MBE was manager. What is your point,oh clueless one.

enjoy your park football wrote:

Lowe fan wrote:

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

Excuse me but who was the chairman when we had 32,000 vs Arsenal at St Mary's and 25,000 at the Millenium stadium......???? Short memories boys and girls....

Thick or what. Yes you are going to get 32,000 against MK Dons now aint ya,next season. Saints used to sell out EVERY GAME when Lawrie Mac MBE was manager. What is your point,oh clueless one.

TFLS wrote:
Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

sailor sam wrote:

Artful Dodger wrote: I hear that Rupert was on the radio saying that he would be getting Joe Jordan in to help out. Any news on that.

Sorry Dodger, you have got it wrong! Rupert wants JORDAN! He said the team needed two 'big ones' up front! I guess it's a panic move in case the club goes 'tits up'!

enjoy your park football wrote:

TFLS wrote: Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

So Rupert Lowe makes his announcement on Aprils fool day. Says it all really dont it! I hope the real fans enjoy there park football next season,all 2,500 of them in League 1 next season. Go on Crouch and Pearson,the balls in your court,take the Saints down. You have four weeks to do as much damage as you can,go for it. Nice to see the share price is coming down again. Keep coming down baby.l love it.

lowe fan wrote:

enjoy your park football wrote:

Lowe fan wrote:

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

Excuse me but who was the chairman when we had 32,000 vs Arsenal at St Mary's and 25,000 at the Millenium stadium......???? Short memories boys and girls....

Thick or what. Yes you are going to get 32,000 against MK Dons now aint ya,next season. Saints used to sell out EVERY GAME when Lawrie Mac MBE was manager. What is your point,oh clueless one.

My point is that this is a man who led us to a new ground when previous plans were all talk (sounds familiar down the road?), took us to 8th in the Premiership (sounds familiar?) and to a Cup Final (sounds familiar?). We were relegated, sure, but Lawrie Mac got us relegated also. Short memories boys and girls....

Andy P wrote:

lowe fan wrote:

enjoy your park football wrote:

Lowe fan wrote:

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

Excuse me but who was the chairman when we had 32,000 vs Arsenal at St Mary's and 25,000 at the Millenium stadium......???? Short memories boys and girls....

Thick or what. Yes you are going to get 32,000 against MK Dons now aint ya,next season. Saints used to sell out EVERY GAME when Lawrie Mac MBE was manager. What is your point,oh clueless one.

My point is that this is a man who led us to a new ground when previous plans were all talk (sounds familiar down the road?), took us to 8th in the Premiership (sounds familiar?) and to a Cup Final (sounds familiar?). We were relegated, sure, but Lawrie Mac got us relegated also. Short memories boys and girls....

The man who led us to the new stadium was infact employed by Southampton City Council,not Rupert Lowe. This myth that Lowe got us SMS really needs to be put to bed. As for finnishing 8th and getting to a cup-final,WOW. Saints were doing this long before Lowe arrived on his moped,honda love type,l remember. Infact Lawrie Mac MBE not only got us to a final,he actually won it,not to mention being runners up one season, under him. Oh nearly forgot,European football as well. That team that you stated he got relegated,do your homework egg-chaser,that was Ted Bates team that Lord Lawrie MBE did not take over until x-mas 73.

Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:

sailor sam wrote:

Artful Dodger wrote: I hear that Rupert was on the radio saying that he would be getting Joe Jordan in to help out. Any news on that.

Sorry Dodger, you have got it wrong! Rupert wants JORDAN! He said the team needed two 'big ones' up front! I guess it's a panic move in case the club goes 'tits up'!

is this related to the fact that we're playing Bristol City on saturday?

Andy P wrote:

lowe fan wrote:

enjoy your park football wrote:

Lowe fan wrote:

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

Excuse me but who was the chairman when we had 32,000 vs Arsenal at St Mary\'s and 25,000 at the Millenium stadium......???? Short memories boys and girls....

Thick or what. Yes you are going to get 32,000 against MK Dons now aint ya,next season. Saints used to sell out EVERY GAME when Lawrie Mac MBE was manager. What is your point,oh clueless one.

My point is that this is a man who led us to a new ground when previous plans were all talk (sounds familiar down the road?), took us to 8th in the Premiership (sounds familiar?) and to a Cup Final (sounds familiar?). We were relegated, sure, but Lawrie Mac got us relegated also. Short memories boys and girls....

The man who led us to the new stadium was infact employed by Southampton City Council,not Rupert Lowe. This myth that Lowe got us SMS really needs to be put to bed. As for finnishing 8th and getting to a cup-final,WOW. Saints were doing this long before Lowe arrived on his moped,honda love type,l remember. Infact Lawrie Mac MBE not only got us to a final,he actually won it,not to mention being runners up one season, under him. Oh nearly forgot,European football as well. That team that you stated he got relegated,do your homework egg-chaser,that was Ted Bates team that Lord Lawrie MBE did not take over until x-mas 73.

sailor sam wrote:

Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:

sailor sam wrote:

Artful Dodger wrote: I hear that Rupert was on the radio saying that he would be getting Joe Jordan in to help out. Any news on that.

Sorry Dodger, you have got it wrong! Rupert wants JORDAN! He said the team needed two \'big ones\' up front! I guess it\'s a panic move in case the club goes \'tits up\'!

is this related to the fact that we\'re playing Bristol City on saturday?

I didn\'t realise you were playing Bristol City on Saturday, I must keep abreast of the news!

Supporter since 1953 wrote:

A real Saint Fan wrote:

Jason wrote:

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

I\\\'m far from a Lowe fan, in fact, I hate the way he began the sad trend of putting the spotlight on the boardroom rather than the pitch. That said, it is obvious to anybody, whether they like or hate him, that you can achieve nothing unless the people who own the casting vote are actually running the club. Saints supporters, while rightly not welcoming this and particularly the timing, should also remember that this is the only way anything is ever going to get done in terms of moving the club forward and getting new investment. Anyway, this should not deflect any attention from the critical thing for our club. We need to stay up at all costs. If we go down, I feel our chance of any investment and the likelihood of starting next season with a 10 point reduction in Division 1, is very real. And I think we probably need to brace ourselves for this deduction, whatever division we\\\'re in next season.

Totally agree. Well said..

Keep the faith Jason and Real Saints Fan. The half-year results to 31 December show the company has a net worth of £6.5M. Administration is miles away. The problem is that the players remaining after the crown jewels were sold are grossly overpaid - performances and league position demonstrate that. If the crown jewels hadn't been sold, the bank really would have been screaming. Teams like Scunthorpe and Blackpool have proved that you can survive on a shoe-string. If we survive this season, the whole squad apart from Kelvin Davis and Stern John (if we can retain him) should be shown the door - we've spent fortunes on underachievers. Div 1 is not the end of the world by the way. Our infrastructure would always make us reasonably attractive to a buyer.

enough cr*p already wrote:
This whole sorry mess started with Lowe with relegation from the Premiership. The man should be consigned to Saints’ history – end of. All he and Wilde are doing is protecting their sorry investment, the wellbeing of the club from a fans’ point of view is secondary. If we drop into the third tier of English football then all the best to Eastleigh as their crowds should benefit ten-fold. Come on “Eastleigh-Saints”!! ;o)

Paul wrote:
I don't think Sir Richard Branson would be at Soton airport today as he is due to be in the USA. He was here in Brisbane at the weekend.

Andy P wrote:

enough cr*p already wrote: This whole sorry mess started with Lowe with relegation from the Premiership. The man should be consigned to Saints’ history – end of. All he and Wilde are doing is protecting their sorry investment, the wellbeing of the club from a fans’ point of view is secondary. If we drop into the third tier of English football then all the best to Eastleigh as their crowds should benefit ten-fold. Come on “Eastleigh-Saints”!! ;o)

I reckon with the mass EXUDOS from SMS next season,leaving the clueless 5,000 to watch SFC,Eastleigh will be sold out every home game. What a smack in the teeth that will be for old rupes and his 5000 luvies,Eastleigh having more for home games than Saints. COME ON EASTLEIGH!

Simon wrote:
I can\'t believe most of these posts. Does nobody understand how business, particular public companies, works. The primary responsibility of the Board is set the vision, secure the investment, build the assets (stadium, players, R&D - youth system), generate the revenue (ticket and player sales in our case) and make the PLC viable. Now compare Lowe\'s record with any other board in the history of this club, bearing in mind it only when public on Lowe\'s arrival. Lowe set the club up us for success. His only failing was to get too involved in the playing side as many of his managers were duds. Fair enough, he made some \"visible\" mistakes, but the club was always in good financial shape....and frankly I couldn\'t care less about his motivation or whether hockey is his preferred sport. This is business for God\'s sake! If Lowe wins, we all win! Were we even close to administration under Lowe? We were churning out a steady stream of high value youngsters from the Academy....the sales of which is all that\'s keeping us afloat (i.e Walcott payments). This was Lowe\'s legacy, and although we are not happy with having to sell the likes of Mills, Walcott and Bale, this is the reality of a small time club. Understand the difference between a viable business and successful team. The problem now is that we have neither, as the current board has milked the assets dry (name just one good player in the squad that\'s ours!) and emptied the bank account. And you all want more of the same, just because you are envious of Lowe\'s tweed jackets? I suppose most of you would rather drown than jump into a lifeboat, just because the timing of the rescue attempt is \"disgusting\". Well, go ahead. Drown in your bigotry. Pathetic!

Marian wrote:
Get a grip "Jules" do you know anything about Finance and Business Acumen? The players are crap, we have a gutless board who have no knowledge of the game - Trant, Hooes and Crouch are a disgrace and have used this club more than Lowe and Cowen ever did. They have never made a statement about how inept they are. THEY have put the club into financial jeopardy not Lowe. The players are to blame for where we are in the league - they are more interested in beering it up each week and nicking from peoples handbags. Personally, id sack the lot of them but, we have just renewed our season tickets - bring it on!! C'mon Rupe .. bring us your money and your madness!

Disgusted wrote:

Simon wrote: I can\\\'t believe most of these posts. Does nobody understand how business, particular public companies, works. The primary responsibility of the Board is set the vision, secure the investment, build the assets (stadium, players, R&D - youth system), generate the revenue (ticket and player sales in our case) and make the PLC viable. Now compare Lowe\\\'s record with any other board in the history of this club, bearing in mind it only when public on Lowe\\\'s arrival. Lowe set the club up us for success. His only failing was to get too involved in the playing side as many of his managers were duds. Fair enough, he made some \\\"visible\\\" mistakes, but the club was always in good financial shape....and frankly I couldn\\\'t care less about his motivation or whether hockey is his preferred sport. This is business for God\\\'s sake! If Lowe wins, we all win! Were we even close to administration under Lowe? We were churning out a steady stream of high value youngsters from the Academy....the sales of which is all that\\\'s keeping us afloat (i.e Walcott payments). This was Lowe\\\'s legacy, and although we are not happy with having to sell the likes of Mills, Walcott and Bale, this is the reality of a small time club. Understand the difference between a viable business and successful team. The problem now is that we have neither, as the current board has milked the assets dry (name just one good player in the squad that\\\'s ours!) and emptied the bank account. And you all want more of the same, just because you are envious of Lowe\\\'s tweed jackets? I suppose most of you would rather drown than jump into a lifeboat, just because the timing of the rescue attempt is \\\"disgusting\\\". Well, go ahead. Drown in your bigotry. Pathetic!

Bigotry?....Simon, I\'d already stated that on the grounds you have just mentioned, Crouch deserves to go. HOWEVER, read the letter, a lot of it contains quite CLEARLY unrelated PERSONAL ATTACKS. Like yourself, I was there for the initial reverse-takeover, I was there when Messers Lowe arranged a deal with the council for some land they couldnt get shot of. Lowe is NOT a messiah, as I am NOT a bigot (I believe thats actually libel). Rupert\'s job as a chairman was to appoint good staff...WAS A RUGBY COACH A GOOD MEMBER OF STAFF??....HOW ABOUT A GUTLESS YES MAN WITH NO EXPEIRNCE?...OR PERHAPS A MAN WHO CLEARLY DIDNT WANT TO BE HERE? THESE THINGS I HOLD MR LOWE & CO ACCOUNTABLE FOR. I\'ll never forget and never forgive the shables HE got us into.

wateratt wrote:
So does anyone buy into a connection between what Lowe is doing here and what he is doing here: WH Ireland Group plc Significant shareholdings?

Game Over wrote:
Please let this be and April Fool? Or as its Lowe and Wilde, April Fools. And what are their grand plans to transform Saints? None I bet, just to have their grinning egos back in the limelight in a last ditch attempt to stop their shares being worth nothing in Administration. Because that is Lowe and Wilde's only motivation. Not what is best for Southampton Football Club, but what is best for THEIR WALLET. How has this great club sunk to the depths to have such a wretched collection of scumbags as major shareholders? We are doomed on and off the pitch.

Simon wrote:
I can\'t believe most of these posts. Does nobody understand how business, particular public companies, works. The primary responsibility of the Board is set the vision, secure the investment, build the assets (stadium, players, R&D - youth system), generate the revenue (ticket and player sales in our case) and make the PLC viable. Now compare Lowe\'s record with any other board in the history of this club, bearing in mind it only when public on Lowe\'s arrival. Lowe set the club up us for success. His only failing was to get too involved in the playing side as many of his managers were duds. Fair enough, he made some \"visible\" mistakes, but the club was always in good financial shape....and frankly I couldn\'t care less about his motivation or whether hockey is his preferred sport. This is business for God\'s sake! If Lowe wins, we all win! Were we even close to administration under Lowe? We were churning out a steady stream of high value youngsters from the Academy....the sales of which is all that\'s keeping us afloat (i.e Walcott payments). This was Lowe\'s legacy, and although we are not happy with having to sell the likes of Mills, Walcott and Bale, this is the reality of a small time club. Understand the difference between a viable business and successful team. The problem now is that we have neither, as the current board has milked the assets dry (name just one good player in the squad that\'s ours!) and emptied the bank account. And you all want more of the same, just because you are envious of Lowe\'s tweed jackets? I suppose most of you would rather drown than jump into a lifeboat, just because the timing of the rescue attempt is \"disgusting\". Well, go ahead. Drown in your bigotry. Pathetic!

Andy wrote:
As a true saints football supporter there is no point getting upset about what is going on at board level. Lets all just concentrate on the remaining games, get right behind the team and support the hell out of them! Stay in the ground until the final whistle at every game and cheer them on regardless. It is our only hope!!!!

Darren wrote:
John B, because someone does not believe a person can make the transition between difference codes of football does not make them a bigot. Chris is also right, this is a business and they are looking after their investments. But I seem to recall it was Mr Wilde's vote that was drawn to remove Mr Lowe in the first place. I remember the "plant" on the saints fans message board slamming the "Gibbon" from our estimed former board members...They are just going to make prats of themselves again and drag the name of Southampton Football Club down.....yet again. It is true, many fans didnt want Hoddle back, but on the basis of his other club performances, it's not really suprising. But Lowe never listened to the fans, he's clearly not listening now, I would like to see the reception he'll get back at St. Mary's... Applause anyone???.....the king is home....I dont think so.

Blue Boy wrote:
Calling all saints supporters, Don't buy your season tickets just yet, if the club go into administation, there is no guarente that you will get any money back, or any team to watch. Spend a bit more, and go to watch Premier League football down the road. That way you will see how real supporters act, and watch a better team as well. It's a win win situation, beacuse if saints go into administation, Lowe will lose any value in his shares as well.

Darren wrote:
John B, because someone does not believe a person can make the transition between difference codes of football does not make them a bigot. Chris is also right, this is a business and they are looking after their investments. But I seem to recall it was Mr Wilde's vote that was drawn to remove Mr Lowe in the first place. I remember the "plant" on the saints fans message board slamming the "Gibbon" from our estimed former board members...They are just going to make prats of themselves again and drag the name of Southampton Football Club down.....yet again. It is true, many fans didnt want Hoddle back, but on the basis of his other club performances, it's not really suprising. But Lowe never listened to the fans, he's clearly not listening now, I would like to see the reception he'll get back at St. Mary's... Applause anyone???.....the king is home....I dont think so.

Jules wrote:
I think fans should hold up placards on Saturday saying: \\\"LOWEST OF THE LOWE!\\\" How much lower can things get for this club, other than League One?

GottaMakeANameUp wrote:
Just for sheer sake of sadness, I was looking back through the various articles on this and the forums. About 80% of the pro-Lowe responses are written in almost exactly the same style.......what with Michael Wilde on TSF and the nature of these two (Lowe and Wilde) I have distinct suspicions that Rupert Lowe (or at least someone on his behalf) is repeatedly posting, under various aliases, on these sites trying to rally some pro-Lowe sentiment. The fact is that unless Rupert Lowe (who is NOT a fan of SFC, let's put that myth to bed right now) and Michael Wilde cement their unholy alliance with real, tangible investment, the club is better off without them. Furthermore, don't we have to meet with the banks in June to ask for overdraft/loan forgiveness/extensio ns? Hardly think the banks are going to have much faith in Lowe and Wilde. We need an owner with money and we need one quickly, and Michael and Rupert should either just sell their shares at the market price (around 40p) or find investment before the business (their concern) and the club (fans and the community's concern) suffer profusely. Lowe/Wilde vs Crouch is a toss up. But neither are the long term solution that will restore Saints to the status the club deserves. Question therefore is which of these will best facilitate, and frankly for all his faults, Crouch seems the more honest and carries the least baggage. Change for change's sake will not help, so if Lowe/Wilde indeed take note of the fan opinions, they will stay away until such time as they have real, significant funds to invest.

Michael wrote:
Given the Club's financial position and the sudden drop in the Club's share price Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde are gaining control to asset strip what remains of the Football Club. I think it's time Messrs Lowe and Wilde made totally clear what their objectives are. Relegation is very much on the cards with it's financial consequences and when total unity is required the rats are scuttling the ship.

Ric Flair wrote:
there gonna call an "egm" i'm gonna call an "bce" which stands for "brain club examining"

sailor sam wrote:

Supporter since 1953 wrote:

A real Saint Fan wrote:

Jason wrote:

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

I\\\'m far from a Lowe fan, in fact, I hate the way he began the sad trend of putting the spotlight on the boardroom rather than the pitch. That said, it is obvious to anybody, whether they like or hate him, that you can achieve nothing unless the people who own the casting vote are actually running the club. Saints supporters, while rightly not welcoming this and particularly the timing, should also remember that this is the only way anything is ever going to get done in terms of moving the club forward and getting new investment. Anyway, this should not deflect any attention from the critical thing for our club. We need to stay up at all costs. If we go down, I feel our chance of any investment and the likelihood of starting next season with a 10 point reduction in Division 1, is very real. And I think we probably need to brace ourselves for this deduction, whatever division we\\\'re in next season.

Totally agree. Well said..

Keep the faith Jason and Real Saints Fan. The half-year results to 31 December show the company has a net worth of £6.5M. Administration is miles away. The problem is that the players remaining after the crown jewels were sold are grossly overpaid - performances and league position demonstrate that. If the crown jewels hadn't been sold, the bank really would have been screaming. Teams like Scunthorpe and Blackpool have proved that you can survive on a shoe-string. If we survive this season, the whole squad apart from Kelvin Davis and Stern John (if we can retain him) should be shown the door - we've spent fortunes on underachievers. Div 1 is not the end of the world by the way. Our infrastructure would always make us reasonably attractive to a buyer.

Treat what 'Supporter since 1953' writes, with the utmost suspicion! On another page he claimed that Gaydamak, who owns Pompey Lock, Stock and Barrel, had LENT money to Portsmouth FC! I asked him to explain how someone can lend money to themselves, and if they do, how do they pay it back! Understandably, he has not come up with an explanation!

real fan wrote:

TFLS wrote: Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Er, I am a 'real' fan and I am not behind him at all. His mistakes helped get us relegated and, therefore, he is massively responsible for us getting into this mess we are in. If he has proper plans with real investment, let them be known but until such time, he will never have my support. Supporting Saints for 25 years for the record. Not stupid, not dim-witted, not unintelligent, not naive, not happy, a shareholder and not happy that Saints are still a mess of an organisation, and will continue to be so. Saints lose (that's the correct spelling, not loose) again with this announcement. We need real backers with real money for the real fans. Clearly the mechanisms of the club established by Lowe are the root cause of us not being able to get decent investment. Shameful.

Simon Ilett wrote:
I must say I am hugely disappointed. As a Southampton football supporter for more than 25 years I have never been more disappointed in what I have read on this forum tonight, the talk of so called fans NOT renewing their season tickets and boycotting games is pathetic! You are not paying money directly in to Rupert Lowes pockets you are paying money to watch the team that you have supposedly loved and followed for years. What would actually help our club Southampton FC is for the supporters to actually support the club rather than get involved in the board room activities that they have no actual control over! I myself have to admit that I am not a great fan of Rupert Lowe either but maybe just maybe he has learnt from his first stint and is actually a more improved man? Who knows? Also let’s be absolutely honest has Leon Crouch achieved anything in his time in the hot seat? All I want to see is our club achieving goals again but with all of the negativity being slung around at fan level Southampton FC is doomed so l say Rupert Lowe is coming back we can’t change that so let’s live with it for now and see what he has to offer. But as I said earlier fans staying away will not help Southampton at all.

New Eastleigh supporters club wrote:

enjoy your park football wrote:

Lowe fan wrote:

ex-supporter of SFC wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

Mick the funny thing is that if Lowe returns the support will drop to about 8k,l and thousands of others are with you on this one mate. Should have stayed at the Dell,at least it would be half full next year. Welcome back Rupert,home you sell all them boxes next year,he he he!

Excuse me but who was the chairman when we had 32,000 vs Arsenal at St Mary\\\'s and 25,000 at the Millenium stadium......???? Short memories boys and girls....

Thick or what. Yes you are going to get 32,000 against MK Dons now aint ya,next season. Saints used to sell out EVERY GAME when Lawrie Mac MBE was manager. What is your point,oh clueless one.

I dont think Saints will get gates of more than 5k next season. Still l have now saved myself buying my six season tickets for next season. Anyone daft enough to put money in Lowes pocket again, needs sectioning. I know about thirty Saints supporters who will not be renewing their season tickets next season. Eastleigh here we come.

LOWE OUT wrote:

Simon Ilett wrote: I must say I am hugely disappointed. As a Southampton football supporter for more than 25 years I have never been more disappointed in what I have read on this forum tonight, the talk of so called fans NOT renewing their season tickets and boycotting games is pathetic! You are not paying money directly in to Rupert Lowes pockets you are paying money to watch the team that you have supposedly loved and followed for years. What would actually help our club Southampton FC is for the supporters to actually support the club rather than get involved in the board room activities that they have no actual control over! I myself have to admit that I am not a great fan of Rupert Lowe either but maybe just maybe he has learnt from his first stint and is actually a more improved man? Who knows? Also let’s be absolutely honest has Leon Crouch achieved anything in his time in the hot seat? All I want to see is our club achieving goals again but with all of the negativity being slung around at fan level Southampton FC is doomed so l say Rupert Lowe is coming back we can’t change that so let’s live with it for now and see what he has to offer. But as I said earlier fans staying away will not help Southampton at all.

PR and more SPIN! LOWE OUT!

TFLS wrote:
Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Dazzer wrote:

real fan wrote:

TFLS wrote: Wilde and Lowe together own 22 per cent of the club and speak for a further 20 per cent of the shares, giving them a decisive say at any meeting, which current directors may decide not to contest. Notice of the EGM was given to the stock exchange this morning Welcome back Rupert Lowe! Fantastic news! All the real fans are behind you...

Er, I am a 'real' fan and I am not behind him at all. His mistakes helped get us relegated and, therefore, he is massively responsible for us getting into this mess we are in. If he has proper plans with real investment, let them be known but until such time, he will never have my support. Supporting Saints for 25 years for the record. Not stupid, not dim-witted, not unintelligent, not naive, not happy, a shareholder and not happy that Saints are still a mess of an organisation, and will continue to be so. Saints lose (that's the correct spelling, not loose) again with this announcement. We need real backers with real money for the real fans. Clearly the mechanisms of the club established by Lowe are the root cause of us not being able to get decent investment. Shameful.

Er let me know when you wake you idiot!! you are not a real fan if you want that posh pathetic little man back at our beloved club. your a bloody loser. R.I.P my beloved saints.

PaulG wrote:
Good to see that we will at last see the back of Keith Wiseman. This is the man who was at the centre of the “cash for votes scandal” at the FA – a loan was allegedly promised to the Welsh FA shortly before they supported his nomination as a Vice President of FIFA. He is also the man who made a huge profit in selling his shares to Michael Wilde. The shares he sold to Wilde helped to oust Lowe and it seems those same shares will now oust him – what goes around, comes around. However, don’t expect him to consider resigning – he also refused to leave the FA following a vote of no confidence against him !

I will also be pleased to see Patrick Trant removed from the Board. He indicated he would invest in the Club after Lowe had left, yet it seems he had no intention of doing so – his failure to invest money means he will not have much voting power at the EGM.

Finally, Leon Crouch. Well he is at least a Saints fan and has invested his money but seeing him as the figurehead of the Football Club would surely not encourage any potential investor. He probably means well but comes across as neither articulate nor astute in business. Look at the losses announced today (before taking into account player trading) and anyone can see what a precarious financial position Saints are in.

Lowe and Cowan would bring business acumen, integrity and firm leadership back to the Board. A return to the successful times they brought to the club prior to relegation would be welcomed by me. Relegation was a huge setback but name me a club outside of the top 5 that hasn’t experienced it in 27 years.

Some fans will be unhappy with the return of Lowe and will not renew season tickets etc, but ultimately I would guess that at least 95% of fans are influenced by what happens on the pitch rather than off it.

Former Northam Ranter wrote:
I have seldom seen such negative comment. No wonder saints so called supporters have the worst reputation in the UK for being so fickle. Most negative posts on this topic are based on personal predjudice not on sound logic. I love the club, always have and always will.Through thick and thin,in good times and bad. By definition that is what fans do. Anyone else is an outsider.So carry on making your negative posts but don't for one minute claim to be fans.Frankly the club and the real fans don't want or need you. Enjoy Eastleigh, Pompey or whereever you wish to watch your future football. St Mary's will be all the better without you.

Tracey wrote:

sailor sam wrote:

Supporter since 1953 wrote:

A real Saint Fan wrote:

Jason wrote:

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

I\\\'m far from a Lowe fan, in fact, I hate the way he began the sad trend of putting the spotlight on the boardroom rather than the pitch. That said, it is obvious to anybody, whether they like or hate him, that you can achieve nothing unless the people who own the casting vote are actually running the club. Saints supporters, while rightly not welcoming this and particularly the timing, should also remember that this is the only way anything is ever going to get done in terms of moving the club forward and getting new investment. Anyway, this should not deflect any attention from the critical thing for our club. We need to stay up at all costs. If we go down, I feel our chance of any investment and the likelihood of starting next season with a 10 point reduction in Division 1, is very real. And I think we probably need to brace ourselves for this deduction, whatever division we\\\'re in next season.

Totally agree. Well said..

Keep the faith Jason and Real Saints Fan. The half-year results to 31 December show the company has a net worth of £6.5M. Administration is miles away. The problem is that the players remaining after the crown jewels were sold are grossly overpaid - performances and league position demonstrate that. If the crown jewels hadn't been sold, the bank really would have been screaming. Teams like Scunthorpe and Blackpool have proved that you can survive on a shoe-string. If we survive this season, the whole squad apart from Kelvin Davis and Stern John (if we can retain him) should be shown the door - we've spent fortunes on underachievers. Div 1 is not the end of the world by the way. Our infrastructure would always make us reasonably attractive to a buyer.

Treat what 'Supporter since 1953' writes, with the utmost suspicion! On another page he claimed that Gaydamak, who owns Pompey Lock, Stock and Barrel, had LENT money to Portsmouth FC! I asked him to explain how someone can lend money to themselves, and if they do, how do they pay it back! Understandably, he has not come up with an explanation!

Pompey FC is a business owned by Gaydamak, the money he lent was from from his private savings and investments and went to the FC bank account. The money is paid back by revenues created by the FC and transfered to Gaydamaks private bank account. Geddit?

Season ticket since 75 wrote:
Great News to Get Lowe Back with Wilde on his side.

Now how do we shut up the idiots who got rid of him and got us were we are now?

Let us get back to running SAINTS as a business.

sailor sam wrote:

Tracey wrote:

sailor sam wrote:

Supporter since 1953 wrote:

A real Saint Fan wrote:

Jason wrote:

John B wrote:

Mick wrote: If this happens I will never support Sfc whilst they are there, all they have ever done is dissipate the club.

I am pleased that you are no longer going to support SFC. It was people like you who got us relegated by refusing to see the benefits of having Glen Hoddle back as manager.

I\\\\\\\'m far from a Lowe fan, in fact, I hate the way he began the sad trend of putting the spotlight on the boardroom rather than the pitch. That said, it is obvious to anybody, whether they like or hate him, that you can achieve nothing unless the people who own the casting vote are actually running the club. Saints supporters, while rightly not welcoming this and particularly the timing, should also remember that this is the only way anything is ever going to get done in terms of moving the club forward and getting new investment. Anyway, this should not deflect any attention from the critical thing for our club. We need to stay up at all costs. If we go down, I feel our chance of any investment and the likelihood of starting next season with a 10 point reduction in Division 1, is very real. And I think we probably need to brace ourselves for this deduction, whatever division we\\\\\\\'re in next season.

Totally agree. Well said..

Keep the faith Jason and Real Saints Fan. The half-year results to 31 December show the company has a net worth of £6.5M. Administration is miles away. The problem is that the players remaining after the crown jewels were sold are grossly overpaid - performances and league position demonstrate that. If the crown jewels hadn\'t been sold, the bank really would have been screaming. Teams like Scunthorpe and Blackpool have proved that you can survive on a shoe-string. If we survive this season, the whole squad apart from Kelvin Davis and Stern John (if we can retain him) should be shown the door - we\'ve spent fortunes on underachievers. Div 1 is not the end of the world by the way. Our infrastructure would always make us reasonably attractive to a buyer.

Treat what \'Supporter since 1953\' writes, with the utmost suspicion! On another page he claimed that Gaydamak, who owns Pompey Lock, Stock and Barrel, had LENT money to Portsmouth FC! I asked him to explain how someone can lend money to themselves, and if they do, how do they pay it back! Understandably, he has not come up with an explanation!

Pompey FC is a business owned by Gaydamak, the money he lent was from from his private savings and investments and went to the FC bank account. The money is paid back by revenues created by the FC and transfered to Gaydamaks private bank account. Geddit?

So he is \'taking money from one pocket and putting it in another pocket\'! You cannot lend something that you own, to yourself! If you own a £10 note, you can\'t lend it to yourself! It is a case of transferring assets! Lending does not come into it!