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9:12am Friday 9th May 2008
STAFF are fearing for their jobs as bosses at the University of Southampton launch a four-month money saving review.
Academic chiefs are aiming to increase the university's income and reduce its expenditure in a bid to claw back a £2m deficit.
A series of open forums for the 5,000 staff are being held across the university by Professor Adam Wheeler, the senior deputy vice chancellor and Simon Higman, registrar and chief operating officer.
The university blames its financial woes on a higher than expected nationally agreed staff pay settlement.
The joint trade unions of UCU, Unison and Unite met yesterday to discuss the controversial review with director of human resources, Tony Strike.
The unions claim the university management - which is to carry out this review - are to blame for the institution's financial problems.
They also say the manner in which the university has announced the review has created a widespread feeling of fear and rumours that administrative and specialist staff may be the first to face the chop.
A spokesman said: "The trade unions will of course do their utmost to defend not only jobs, but any deterioration in terms and conditions of employment that may result from attempts to implement decisions made through this review.
"While we understand that the university is facing an income expenditure dilemma we maintain that this was not created by the staff group now being reviewed but by the very management now managing this review."
Professor Wheeler said it was too early to say whether there would need to be job cuts.
He said: "As with some other UK universities, our expenditure, especially in terms of staff costs, has risen sharply in the past two years and is currently outstripping our income, resulting in an operating deficit of £2m.
"This is partly because our previous plans had assumed salary increases that were more modest than those agreed nationally.
"Although it is only a fraction of our annual turnover, good management requires that we address it before it grows.
Open forums are being held at the Avenue Campus, Winchester School of Art, Highfield Campus, Boldrewood Building and Southampton General Hospital.
The Daily Echo understands there are currently no plans to cut courses.
The review comes after the Daily Echo revealed how the university is advertising for a new vice chancellor to take over from Professor Bill Wakeham who retires next year.
With the post comes a £214,000 salary, complementary house, car and chauffeur for certain engagements.
Earlier this year the university also unveiled its new logo that cost £160,000.
Anon - University Worker, Southampton says...
10:04am Fri 9 May 08
ANON, Southampton says...
10:16am Fri 9 May 08
anon, soton says...
10:19am Fri 9 May 08
Another Uni worker, Southampton says...
10:23am Fri 9 May 08
anon, says...
10:43am Fri 9 May 08
Worried-Worker, Uni of Southampton Worker says...
11:00am Fri 9 May 08
A Worker, Southampton says...
11:16am Fri 9 May 08
Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away says...
11:25am Fri 9 May 08
MSAunion, Southampton says...
11:40am Fri 9 May 08
Uni worker, Southampton says...
11:44am Fri 9 May 08
MSAunion, Southampton says...
11:54am Fri 9 May 08
**** off University employee, Southampton says...
12:37pm Fri 9 May 08
psdoff, Wheelers arse! says...
12:40pm Fri 9 May 08
MSA worker, Southampton says...
1:51pm Fri 9 May 08
irate Wintonian, says...
1:56pm Fri 9 May 08
mangobean, Eastleigh says...
2:00pm Fri 9 May 08
in my option, formaly of upper shirley says...
2:21pm Fri 9 May 08
recently employed uni worker, southampton says...
2:57pm Fri 9 May 08
another disgruntled Uni employee, Southampton says...
2:58pm Fri 9 May 08
CyberWarrior, sot'on says...
3:04pm Fri 9 May 08
in my option wrote:Southampton University has first class in-house Corporate & Marketing services and IT departments, both of which could have been utilised for the re-branding exercise. They are also bringing in private management consultants to oversee the MSA review and they will have to be paid too - out of the staff budget probably! If these people had screwed up like this in a private company, they would have been fired or asked to resign immediately. Like you say, the buck stops with them but they won't lose their jobs and their whacking great salaries!
I work for a small private University in Boston. The president does not make as much as this person in Southampton, does not have chauffeured cars and certainly does not get free housing and this is a very, very good school. The amount that students pay here does not cover the cost of tuition so therefore we use fund raising to build an endowment. I know that this is new to the UK but it is the way forward. With a deficient that this, it is a wonder that the university can keep its accreditation. As for spending nearly $6,000 on re-branding that is a joke all ours was done in house utilizing good publications staff and one outside consultant not much money at all. The administration at this university need to be fired and any government money going into that school needs to be halted until auditors take a look at the waste that has obviously gone on, and oh lets fire the senior accounting person, they also have responsibility but the buck stops with the Chancellor or President it is only a title but most are morons!
lifer!, Uni employee says...
3:36pm Fri 9 May 08
Low Paid Uni- Worker, Southampton says...
3:36pm Fri 9 May 08
Worried-Worker, Southampton says...
3:39pm Fri 9 May 08
Sad and Blue, says...
3:44pm Fri 9 May 08
brand info, University of Southampton says...
3:56pm Fri 9 May 08
anon, UoS says...
4:13pm Fri 9 May 08
brand info wrote:Wow, communication from the University. Give this man a medal.
The costs of the brand have always been open: Precedent Communications were paid 160k for their brand and visual identity work. The University then spent additional money on implementation totaling 200k the majority of which was spent internally at the Print Centre. AS such the total spent was £360k.
Anon, Soton Uni says...
4:23pm Fri 9 May 08
Angry Uni Worker, Southampton says...
4:46pm Fri 9 May 08
brand info wrote:Utter Rubbish! Do you really believe the rebranding only cost £360k? Wherever you go you can spot the Dolphin logo, on busses, train stations, signs, uniforms, vehicles- so who is going to pay for all these to be changed to the new BLAND, sorry 'Brand'? No doubt some money will come from the salary bill saving from however many MSA staff are made redundant, owing to the gross financial mismanagement of the senior 'managers' (Managers?...I wouldnt follow them out of curiousity!)
The costs of the brand have always been open: Precedent Communications were paid 160k for their brand and visual identity work. The University then spent additional money on implementation totaling 200k the majority of which was spent internally at the Print Centre. AS such the total spent was £360k.
An ex-uni worker, Still in sunny Southampton says...
5:40pm Fri 9 May 08
anon123, southampton says...
6:35pm Fri 9 May 08
brand info, University of Southampton says...
6:46pm Fri 9 May 08
Angry Uni Worker wrote:The point you make is valid, in that it would clearly take a lot of money to replace all of the items you mention. But given, as you so rightly point out, that you can still see them everywhere, I would ask that you recognise that (as was stated at brand launch) these items will be altered according to the replacement cycle already in place.
brand info wrote: The costs of the brand have always been open: Precedent Communications were paid 160k for their brand and visual identity work. The University then spent additional money on implementation totaling 200k the majority of which was spent internally at the Print Centre. AS such the total spent was £360k.Utter Rubbish! Do you really believe the rebranding only cost £360k? Wherever you go you can spot the Dolphin logo, on busses, train stations, signs, uniforms, vehicles- so who is going to pay for all these to be changed to the new BLAND, sorry 'Brand'? No doubt some money will come from the salary bill saving from however many MSA staff are made redundant, owing to the gross financial mismanagement of the senior 'managers' (Managers?...I wouldnt follow them out of curiousity!)
Worried-worker, 116-422 says...
7:31pm Fri 9 May 08
brand info wrote:Sadly "Brand info" is deflecting the attention from the bigger picture. Who cares when the outdated dolphin is gone for good....what we need to focus on is bringing the management to task over their financial mismanagement of the University. Surely the VC, Higson, Wheeler and to some extent Malcolm Ace (Finance Director) should be held responsible. When will they do the decent thing and resign their lofty, well paid posts - they should be hanging their heads in shame - i bet they will not be spending the coming months stressing out over if their jobs are safe.
Angry Uni Worker wrote:The point you make is valid, in that it would clearly take a lot of money to replace all of the items you mention. But given, as you so rightly point out, that you can still see them everywhere, I would ask that you recognise that (as was stated at brand launch) these items will be altered according to the replacement cycle already in place.brand info wrote: The costs of the brand have always been open: Precedent Communications were paid 160k for their brand and visual identity work. The University then spent additional money on implementation totaling 200k the majority of which was spent internally at the Print Centre. AS such the total spent was £360k.Utter Rubbish! Do you really believe the rebranding only cost £360k? Wherever you go you can spot the Dolphin logo, on busses, train stations, signs, uniforms, vehicles- so who is going to pay for all these to be changed to the new BLAND, sorry \'Brand\'? No doubt some money will come from the salary bill saving from however many MSA staff are made redundant, owing to the gross financial mismanagement of the senior \'managers\' (Managers?...I wouldnt follow them out of curiousity!)
n, Southampton says...
7:44pm Fri 9 May 08
Anon, Southampton says...
8:10pm Fri 9 May 08
A realist, Southampton says...
9:56pm Fri 9 May 08
uni employee, says...
10:34pm Fri 9 May 08
A N Other, says...
1:56am Sat 10 May 08
A N Other, says...
1:58am Sat 10 May 08
Happy, Prozac says...
6:09am Sat 10 May 08
A realist wrote:So why has the current VC been given a 25% pay increase a year beofre he leaves having dumped us in this mess? If you want to attract a decent VC with a higher wage you attach the new rate to the vacancy, not give it out as a golden handshake to a proven incompetent.
seriously??? you have to pay a good salary to a VC because if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys! if you had to spend pretty much 24/7 working, i expect you would want to be paid very well for it too, and if you had to use your house as a venue for business, i expect you would want a residence to do so. by not understanding that you have to pay to get the quality of person to run an institution like southampton, you're just demonstrating your ignorance of the situation. try taking a look at the big picture - no-one likes redundancies but if people aren't doing a job that is adding value it doesn't help the business so things have to change. try working in the private sector, you'd be in for a shock...
Worried-worker, Uni of Soton says...
6:58am Sat 10 May 08
A realist wrote:You are correct - a fair wage for a fair days pay - works across the board inc the VC - however we are constantly told at the University from the VC down that we must look at & run the Uni as a business so "in the real world" / private sector these people running these reviews would & SHOULD be held accountable for getting the University into this mess in the first place.
seriously??? you have to pay a good salary to a VC because if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys! if you had to spend pretty much 24/7 working, i expect you would want to be paid very well for it too, and if you had to use your house as a venue for business, i expect you would want a residence to do so. by not understanding that you have to pay to get the quality of person to run an institution like southampton, you're just demonstrating your ignorance of the situation. try taking a look at the big picture - no-one likes redundancies but if people aren't doing a job that is adding value it doesn't help the business so things have to change. try working in the private sector, you'd be in for a shock...
MSA2b, Southampton says...
4:49pm Sat 10 May 08
Concerned lecturer, University of Southampton says...
10:23am Mon 12 May 08
temp @southampton, says...
10:49am Mon 12 May 08
temp @ southampton, says...
10:51am Mon 12 May 08
temp @ southampton, says...
10:51am Mon 12 May 08
thin cat, southampton says...
11:17am Mon 12 May 08
anon, Soton Uni (not for long) says...
1:00pm Mon 12 May 08
former student, Bishops Waltham says...
1:27pm Mon 12 May 08
Senior Lecturer, Southampton University says...
3:18pm Mon 12 May 08
former student wrote:The pay award last year was 5% but staggered into two slices (to make it cheaper for the Universities). Next year it will be 2.5% or RPI whichever is higher unless an independent investigation of University finances finds that they can afford to pay more.
I now work for the Uni, but was a student when the lecturers went on strike for better pay, which nearly meant my eaxms wouldn\'t be marked. As a result of the strike I am getting a 9% pay rise this year, just for being here, I don\'t have to do anything else to get that. Is it any wonder the uni is struggling, bloody trade unions, all short term never thinkning about the affects on the \"workers\" in the long term. To all those whinging about redundancies, all I can say is you reap what you sow!
Admin Monkey, says...
11:43pm Mon 12 May 08
astudent, Southampton says...
12:12am Tue 13 May 08
Had it too good for too long, Southampton says...
2:51pm Tue 13 May 08
Enough, Southampton says...
5:28pm Tue 13 May 08
Had it too good for too long wrote:Had it too good for too long? Where's the shame in talking about staff like this? What good do you think will come from it? It's bad enough to be told our jobs are unnecessary. Even Sr'Alan gives his apprentices better sackings than this.
This is the only industry where staff get above two inflation pay awards a year, and an increment every year, for doing no extra work. In the commercial sector work is performance related rather than Passage of Time. Staff are also gratefully accepting a Final Salary Pension. And likewise 27 to 37 days holiday a year. Academics are meant to do 20% admin, yet there are surplus admin staff and some departments even employ full time photocoping staff. So lets get real. If staff are happy to accept the above, then either Income into the Uni needs to increase, or costs reduce. HSBC who make £4bn a year do not simply sit back and employ non-performers. They are lean staffed with resources in the right places, with a poor pension scheme and PRP. Likewise the Employers in London sack the worst 10% of staff a year. You cannot win-win. The University needs to be in a financial stable position to go forward without unnecessary roles being carried.
**** off University employee, Southampton says...
12:40pm Wed 14 May 08
Worried-worker wrote:I agree with the comment regarding paying peanuts and getting monkeys but we are NOT paying peanuts but have still ended up with monkeys, the VC and Adam Wheeler being the biggest two!
A realist wrote: seriously??? you have to pay a good salary to a VC because if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys! if you had to spend pretty much 24/7 working, i expect you would want to be paid very well for it too, and if you had to use your house as a venue for business, i expect you would want a residence to do so. by not understanding that you have to pay to get the quality of person to run an institution like southampton, you\'re just demonstrating your ignorance of the situation. try taking a look at the big picture - no-one likes redundancies but if people aren\'t doing a job that is adding value it doesn\'t help the business so things have to change. try working in the private sector, you\'d be in for a shock...You are correct - a fair wage for a fair days pay - works across the board inc the VC - however we are constantly told at the University from the VC down that we must look at & run the Uni as a business so \"in the real world\" / private sector these people running these reviews would & SHOULD be held accountable for getting the University into this mess in the first place. However they are the ones who will be safe from redundancy. For years the University suits have run roughshod over the staff - we have to make a stand against the financial mismanagement in order that jobs can be saved. Bring thes \"suits\" (the VC, Higman, Wheeler & the cronies) to task.
just staff, says...
3:25pm Wed 14 May 08
Had it too good for too long wrote:
This is the only industry where staff get above two inflation pay awards a year, and an increment every year, for doing no extra work. In the commercial sector work is performance related rather than Passage of Time. Staff are also gratefully accepting a Final Salary Pension. And likewise 27 to 37 days holiday a year. Academics are meant to do 20% admin, yet there are surplus admin staff and some departments even employ full time photocoping staff. So lets get real. If staff are happy to accept the above, then either Income into the Uni needs to increase, or costs reduce. HSBC who make £4bn a year do not simply sit back and employ non-performers. They are lean staffed with resources in the right places, with a poor pension scheme and PRP. Likewise the Employers in London sack the worst 10% of staff a year. You cannot win-win. The University needs to be in a financial stable position to go forward without unnecessary roles being carried.
**** off University employee, Southampton says...
4:09pm Wed 14 May 08
C Roach, soton says...
11:10pm Wed 14 May 08
Rhubarb, Southampton says...
9:10am Fri 16 May 08
lily the pink, Southampton says...
9:40am Fri 16 May 08
**** off University employee wrote: I know the guy isn't very highly thought of and has the inter-personal and presentation skills of a slug, but Simon Higman has not worked at the Uni that long and is obviously the person who's "noticed" the University was in financial difficulty and probably pointed out something should be done about it. That doesn't say much about the other 2 dim wits, Wakeham and Wheeler, does it!
IT Worker, says...
2:21pm Fri 16 May 08
Ex employee, Winchester says...
10:28pm Wed 21 May 08
Oh Good Grief, Southampton says...
3:55pm Tue 29 Jul 08
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CyberWarrior, so'ton says...
9:48am Fri 9 May 08