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6:14pm Tuesday 3rd June 2008
RUPERT LOWE is confident the appointment of Poortvliet will be completed.
Helmond Sport say they have not yet agreed to release the man appointed as Saints' new head coach.
The Dutch side also seem to have no interest in losing the man who guided them to the brink of the Eredivisie.
Lowe, Saints PLC chairman, said: "We've just got to tie up the compensation issue and Jan has agreed to pay it out of his own pocket."
Helmond Sport director Mario Captein confirmed: "The situation is still the same as last week.
"He has two contracts, one with our club and one in Southampton, and that is the situation."
Captein added that Helmond would go to the Dutch FA if necessary to resolve the "unique" situation.
"That is what you must ask Jan himself," he said. "I have no deadline on when this has to be resolved.
"I don't think we can, so if we can't, we will go to the judge, the commission, and try and settle it in court.
"It is a unique situation. It has never been done that a trainer signs two contracts. It might be normal in England but it is not over here.
"We don't want him to go and now the club Saints and Jan must solve it with our club.
"In England, Southampton and Jan are discussing what to do now, so we are waiting.
"He has one year left on his contract - one year ago he signed a two year contract.
"We were very surprised to see him unveiled as Saints manager. I think he is the first trainer to sign two contracts at two different clubs."
Poortvliet had previously been quoted as saying: "I really hope that we can reach a deal. This is a unique chance. I need to look at myself now.
"They had to bring out that news, it's that simple. I only signed a pre-contract."
Billy 2 baps, says...
6:55pm Tue 3 Jun 08
David Crook, Yorkshire says...
6:58pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Saint Madcap, Horndean says...
7:04pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Bobby, Stoke says...
7:22pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Saint, says...
7:25pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Craig, Coventry says...
8:50pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Super Legend Davs 74, woolston says...
8:56pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Craig wrote:I support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club
Mystery Investor, Freemantle says...
8:59pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Ray, Eastleigh says...
9:12pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Craig, Coventry says...
9:23pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:You seem to support his desisions ! How many more managerial chances shall we give him The new guys are used to working in leagues that are at the same quality of 2nd Div or conference level anyone with an ounce of football knowledge knows we need a stong side to get out of the ccc The kids will do ok for a game or two but have neither the strength or experience to keep us up Go to the bookies now and put your money on the dutch guys getting sacked so Lowe can bring in someone new to try and save us from relegation H0W MANY MANAGERS WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE DOOR UNDER RUPERTS TIME THEN
Craig wrote: Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our clubI support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
Barry Mung, Morten Harket says...
9:29pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Realist, says...
9:36pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Barry Mung wrote:Pearson didnt want serious money and Lowe/Wilde never had any intention of keeping Pearson.
Pearson wanted serious money to stay. Poortvliet + Wotte want next to nothing in wages (By football standards) BUT have agreed an incentive scheme. If Saints get promoted next year, Poortvliet + Wotte stand to receive HUGE bonuses, the sort of money that could set them up for life. If they fail they'll simply get a living wage. If nothing else, we are guaranteed two HIGHLY motivated managers next season, who'll be doing evrything they can to win. Perhaps Saints should issue similar contracts to the players...?
Saint Stephen, Fareham says...
9:37pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Super Legend Davs 74, woolston says...
9:41pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Craig wrote:It is ludicrous to suggest that a lower league manager does not have the ability to do well. Sir Alex started at St Mirren. Redcr*p at Bournemouth. Wenger at god knows where, but I bet it wasn't Lyon!! We need a strong side? How do yuo know they won't produce one? Did Man Us kids roll over and die in the 90s? No. The guy has played in aworld cup final for Christs sake, he must know a thing or two. If they perform poorly yes they will be sacked. Whoop de do, happens all the time to managers these days, unfortunately only 4 teams from the 92 can win their respective leagues. What based on his 3 wins in charge do you think NP would do any better than the dutch guys?
Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:You seem to support his desisions ! How many more managerial chances shall we give him The new guys are used to working in leagues that are at the same quality of 2nd Div or conference level anyone with an ounce of football knowledge knows we need a stong side to get out of the ccc The kids will do ok for a game or two but have neither the strength or experience to keep us up Go to the bookies now and put your money on the dutch guys getting sacked so Lowe can bring in someone new to try and save us from relegation H0W MANY MANAGERS WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE DOOR UNDER RUPERTS TIME THENCraig wrote: Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our clubI support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
Dan, soton says...
9:44pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:I agree that we dont know whether this is a bad managerial decision.... however I would say it has come too late - yet again we are writing off the summer to organise, motivate and train our squad.. furthermore, this appointment is somewhat of a risk as neither of these guys come with English football experience... I HOPE that this works out sincerely.. if it does then fair play to Lowe...
Craig wrote:I support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club
David Crook, Yorkshire says...
10:00pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Saint, says...
10:03pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Andy T, Salt Lake City, USA says...
10:08pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Dan wrote:I agree competely with you Dan. Pearson only had 14 games and it makes me sick when I hear fans say he almost got us relegated. Had Burley have stayed we would surely have gone down, the side was simply pathetic and would roll over and die after conceding a goal. He obviously had contacts in the game and used them to bring in 3 great players for this level that saved our bacon.
Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:I agree that we dont know whether this is a bad managerial decision.... however I would say it has come too late - yet again we are writing off the summer to organise, motivate and train our squad.. furthermore, this appointment is somewhat of a risk as neither of these guys come with English football experience... I HOPE that this works out sincerely.. if it does then fair play to Lowe... However, I must disagree regarding Pearson - considering he inherited an unmotivated and unfit squad none of which got a consistent run of games - Pearson came in and immediately addressed our defensive problems whilst commanding a bit of fight, discipline and slightly increased levels of fitness and enthusiasm. COYR!Craig wrote: Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our clubI support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
Craig, Coventry says...
10:13pm Tue 3 Jun 08
David Crook wrote:Lowe did not learn from his mistakes Gray was a mistake which was repeated again with Wigley Another gamble now with some unknown dutch guys is not learning from his mistakes You Lowe supportes astonish me He will finish us off The guy has no idea ask any of the previous managers
All those who do not support Lowe,Wilde,Jan and his Dutch crew,go now.The moment has come now to be positive,and I feel this is the moment when saints move forward.Lowe and Wilde are back and have learned from there mistakes,all those out there must believe in this,if you want your beloved saints to move forward. Saints for ever David Crook
Saint, says...
10:14pm Tue 3 Jun 08
David Crook wrote:What tosh!
All those who do not support Lowe,Wilde,Jan and his Dutch crew,go now.The moment has come now to be positive,and I feel this is the moment when saints move forward.Lowe and Wilde are back and have learned from there mistakes,all those out there must believe in this,if you want your beloved saints to move forward. Saints for ever David Crook
across the pond, slc says...
10:16pm Tue 3 Jun 08
terry brown, newcastle upon tyne says...
10:54pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Arthur Mallard, The Duck Pond says...
11:13pm Tue 3 Jun 08
David Crook wrote:Me and my mates were hanging out at the pond today, thinking how it's really quiet now that Rupert is too busy to blast away at us. We are worried though. It's no good appointing a manager who still has a job somewhere else. That's quite a mistake. Terry Moorhen reckons it could be construed as 'tapping up'. Dave Heron thinks it could be against the rules. Jim Coot asked whether Michael Wilde had been gagged. The whole pond guano-ed itself laughing when Sid Seagull asked if David Crook was not taking the recommended dose.
All those who do not support Lowe,Wilde,Jan and his Dutch crew,go now.The moment has come now to be positive,and I feel this is the moment when saints move forward.Lowe and Wilde are back and have learned from there mistakes,all those out there must believe in this,if you want your beloved saints to move forward. Saints for ever David Crook
Dick Van Dyke, up a chimney says...
11:22pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Jesus_02, kingsland says...
11:44pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Barry Mung wrote:Not a bad idea
Pearson wanted serious money to stay. Poortvliet + Wotte want next to nothing in wages (By football standards) BUT have agreed an incentive scheme. If Saints get promoted next year, Poortvliet + Wotte stand to receive HUGE bonuses, the sort of money that could set them up for life. If they fail they'll simply get a living wage. If nothing else, we are guaranteed two HIGHLY motivated managers next season, who'll be doing evrything they can to win. Perhaps Saints should issue similar contracts to the players...?
Trusupporta, Southampton says...
11:56pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Southampton FEEDER CLUB, St Marys says...
12:04am Wed 4 Jun 08
Kimbo, says...
12:13am Wed 4 Jun 08
Mark Rees, San Francisco (Ex Pat) says...
12:35am Wed 4 Jun 08
Sam please let there be someone out there, Bitterne Park says...
7:46am Wed 4 Jun 08
Andy Andrews, Tunisia holiday/West End says...
7:58am Wed 4 Jun 08
Trusupporta wrote:If you read the posts properly you would see that 100s or 1000s of true supporters are not renewing their season tickets after many, many years so are certainly not "fair-weather supporters". They realise the only way to get rid of Lowe and his cronies, and to get the club back on track, is to deny Lowe money at the turnstiles and at the St Mary's shop. LOWE OUT. BOYCOTT ST MARY's.
I've noticed one or two announcements from those alleging long term support of the club of decisions not to renew season tickets because of Lowe's return and Pearson being "sacked". The season ticket faithful renewed before the last game of the season and did not wait to see which division we'd be in. Sounds more like poor excuses coming from fair-weather supporters.
Ruperts Nemisis, Southampton says...
8:00am Wed 4 Jun 08
mike, hedge end says...
8:19am Wed 4 Jun 08
Ben, Southampton says...
8:23am Wed 4 Jun 08
John B, Bitterne says...
8:31am Wed 4 Jun 08
Andy Andrews wrote:How will boycotting St Mary's get Lowe out when the Shareholders want him.
Trusupporta wrote: I've noticed one or two announcements from those alleging long term support of the club of decisions not to renew season tickets because of Lowe's return and Pearson being "sacked". The season ticket faithful renewed before the last game of the season and did not wait to see which division we'd be in. Sounds more like poor excuses coming from fair-weather supporters.If you read the posts properly you would see that 100s or 1000s of true supporters are not renewing their season tickets after many, many years so are certainly not "fair-weather supporters". They realise the only way to get rid of Lowe and his cronies, and to get the club back on track, is to deny Lowe money at the turnstiles and at the St Mary's shop. LOWE OUT. BOYCOTT ST MARY's.
red n white, southampton says...
8:59am Wed 4 Jun 08
the totton scrutineer, TOTTON says...
9:01am Wed 4 Jun 08
Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away says...
9:17am Wed 4 Jun 08
Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas says...
9:33am Wed 4 Jun 08
vegasaint, hating skates says...
9:36am Wed 4 Jun 08
David Hartshorne wrote:He lives in that ambulance that was parked on hythe marshes
crew657 wrote: Yes scum are a joke...a big joke. Here are some of the best jokes I have heard recently 1. Scummers are hard and always show 2. Scummers never run away 3. Millbrook and Sholing are nice residential areas 4. Stains are a good footballing team 5. Scum arent fickle 6. The bullseye, maybush and park inn are hard pubs 7. Millbrook boxing club produces good boxers hahahahahahahah best jokes ive heard for agesCrew657, Just a gentle reminder. I am concerned that you haven\'t immediately accepted my offer of help. I do apprecate that people with your conditiion dont always have the insight to understand their problem but I had assumed, perhaps wrongly, that you are probably being treated. If you could let us know approximately where you live I will be able to put you in touch with the right Hospital department. David, Romsey
One team in 'ampshire, says...
9:55am Wed 4 Jun 08
Arthur Name, The Toon says...
10:05am Wed 4 Jun 08
terry brown wrote:Trouble is Terry, its not just the Management situation that is farcical, it goes above that with a wedge between a vast section of the support and the board.
come on u saints! can't wait for new season to start, Hope we can sort this managerial farce out and if it is the dutch guys,give them a chance. I love my team and am forever the optimist!
Ted Stripes, Skatesville says...
10:07am Wed 4 Jun 08
Saint Stephen wrote:Call that support we can do without you.
Their wont be any fans left to watch Lowe has split this ONCE great club in 2. I for one wont be renewing my season ticket, and Ive watch saints for 42 years.
mark wm, tooting says...
10:31am Wed 4 Jun 08
allsaintsnocurves, southampton says...
10:39am Wed 4 Jun 08
Gazzer, Southampton says...
10:46am Wed 4 Jun 08
threestands, Bournemouth says...
12:51pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Kimbo wrote:Spot on !!!!!
Rupert Lowe unveiled shock signing Ronaldo to an astonished footballing papparazi. The player himself had struggled to maintain his silence since his Champions league win in Moscow and the reasons why were revealed when he stepped out from behind a bright red curtain in the Mick Channon suite. \"I felt that after the Champions League final there was nothing left for me to achieve in the game\" stated the Portugese International, \"However when I found out that Rupert was back in charge at Saints i felt that spark of excitement return, I contacted my agent and said get me on the next Virgin Voyager to Southampton Central\" \"When I sat in the stands on the day Saints were relegated I realised that Wayne & I were not the most hated men in the ground, this was not a feeling we were used to, we knew that these were special fans, I knew I had to right the great wrong that my team mates had perpetuated, I told no one apart from Roy Keane, sadly his attempts that day to inform Saints supporters that they might get two of our squad were misinterpretted as he warmd down\" However as Man Utd fans mourned it became clear that all was not well with Saints fans, polls on the saints forum revealed that 98% thought Rupert should resign for failing to land Rooney as well, 75% felt betrayed because they thought we should be buying Dutch players, 80% said that Ronaldo wasnt local and had played hockey at school so was therefore unwelcome and 94% stated that when was someone with a name like Ronaldo a footballing man. On other internet message boards fans like Imthegreatest saintsfansincetheclu bwasformedin2001Sain t summed up the mood. \" Lowe doesnt understand football, Saints have a footballing tradition of getting in washed up players in their mid 30\'s and taking their careers even more downhill, whats he doing signing Ronaldo when Chris Lucketti is available\" Lowe himself was unavailable for comment, smuggled out of the stadium as a mob of irate supporters assembled outside, held back by a combination of stewards and riot police, effigys of Lowe were burnt on a bonfire of hockey sticks whilst Old age pensioners spat on the floor at the mention of his name. \"Its like Lew Chatterley has been erased from the history books\" said one old timer, \"by signing Ronaldo, Lowe has shown he is clueless when it comes to football
Dean, Southampton says...
12:56pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Saint Stu wrote:Totally agree with this post.
I for one welcomed the return of Lowe. Thought he'd come in and steady the ship. Do a bit of trimming here and there. Prepare for a serious investor to come in who could bank roll us back to the Premiership. Obviously making a few quid for him along the way. Now I see him for the prize prat he really is. Within 5 mins of being back at the helm he's announced to the world that Jan Portaloo is our boss. 5 mins later he's telling us that he's "confident" that Jan (bird's name by the way) is the new boss. Confident?? He's just paraded the chap around it Saints colours and told the world that he's our boss. He shouldn't be confident, he should be 100% bloody certain he's our boss!! An absolute **** up! If any compensation has to be paid it should not come from the Saints debt, but from Rupert Lowe's personal piggy bank. Sort it out you clowns!!!
threestands, Bournemouth says...
1:00pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Barnacle Bill wrote:"When you know what they are doing is wrong" How do you know what they are doing is wrong? The promblem with people like you is that YOU blindly follow the mob. You are the weak one. But well done for getting Hitler into a post, says it all really.
Muse you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic mate if you believe the way to live your life is to blindly follow people when you know what they are doing will not work or is wrong. That is how Hitler got to power mate. Weaklings like you are the reason Lowe has got a second chance to wreck our club.
Rich, Southampton says...
2:30pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon Templar, Woolston says...
2:53pm Wed 4 Jun 08
cant believe it, says...
4:32pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon Templar, Wooston says...
4:46pm Wed 4 Jun 08
cant believe it wrote:'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE.
Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team.
FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
Tracey, Southampton says...
6:42pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon Templar wrote:Simon,
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Tracey, Southampton says...
6:50pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Kimbo wrote:LOL!!!!!!!!!
Rupert Lowe unveiled shock signing Ronaldo to an astonished footballing papparazi. The player himself had struggled to maintain his silence since his Champions league win in Moscow and the reasons why were revealed when he stepped out from behind a bright red curtain in the Mick Channon suite. "I felt that after the Champions League final there was nothing left for me to achieve in the game" stated the Portugese International, "However when I found out that Rupert was back in charge at Saints i felt that spark of excitement return, I contacted my agent and said get me on the next Virgin Voyager to Southampton Central" "When I sat in the stands on the day Saints were relegated I realised that Wayne & I were not the most hated men in the ground, this was not a feeling we were used to, we knew that these were special fans, I knew I had to right the great wrong that my team mates had perpetuated, I told no one apart from Roy Keane, sadly his attempts that day to inform Saints supporters that they might get two of our squad were misinterpretted as he warmd down" However as Man Utd fans mourned it became clear that all was not well with Saints fans, polls on the saints forum revealed that 98% thought Rupert should resign for failing to land Rooney as well, 75% felt betrayed because they thought we should be buying Dutch players, 80% said that Ronaldo wasnt local and had played hockey at school so was therefore unwelcome and 94% stated that when was someone with a name like Ronaldo a footballing man. On other internet message boards fans like Imthegreatest saintsfansincetheclu bwasformedin2001Sain t summed up the mood. " Lowe doesnt understand football, Saints have a footballing tradition of getting in washed up players in their mid 30's and taking their careers even more downhill, whats he doing signing Ronaldo when Chris Lucketti is available" Lowe himself was unavailable for comment, smuggled out of the stadium as a mob of irate supporters assembled outside, held back by a combination of stewards and riot police, effigys of Lowe were burnt on a bonfire of hockey sticks whilst Old age pensioners spat on the floor at the mention of his name. "Its like Lew Chatterley has been erased from the history books" said one old timer, "by signing Ronaldo, Lowe has shown he is clueless when it comes to football
Crew657, The New Forest says...
7:20pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Tracey wrote:shut it scummer
Simon Templar wrote:Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
crew 657, running away at covent garden, skateland says...
7:47pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon Templar, Woolston says...
7:51pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Tracey wrote:Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection.
Simon Templar wrote:Simon,
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated.
I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible).
Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
Millsey - wink wink, says...
8:40pm Wed 4 Jun 08
John B, Bitterne says...
9:27pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon Templar wrote:How do you know Tracey is a PR Plant I have even been accussed of being Rupert Lowe as well as a plant which of course I am not.
Tracey wrote:Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUTSimon Templar wrote:Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Tracey, Southampton says...
10:21pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon Templar wrote:Simon, so true saints fans don't go to matches to support the team then? That has to be right because you claim to be a true fan but will not be going to cheer the team on next season will you.
Tracey wrote:Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUTSimon Templar wrote:Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Tracey, Southampton says...
10:23pm Wed 4 Jun 08
John B wrote:John,
Simon Templar wrote:How do you know Tracey is a PR Plant I have even been accussed of being Rupert Lowe as well as a plant which of course I am not.Tracey wrote:Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUTSimon Templar wrote:Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Vinnie Der Gran, says...
11:00pm Wed 4 Jun 08
Simon Templar, Woolston says...
6:53am Thu 5 Jun 08
Tracey wrote:More utter nonsense. Im no Crouch fan, he couldn't get rid of Lowe, but he was here less than 5% of the time Lowe has been, and I cannot see how you can level at him that he is at all cupable for inheriting Lowe's mess and then trying his best to put it right. I did welcome Crouch as it meant the end of Lowe, and certainly Crouch has endeared himself to the fans by risking his own money. Im sure all he wanted was, like the rest of us, a genuine figure head to be installed with some clout, instead we get the dinlo Lowe back
Simon Templar wrote:Simon, so true saints fans don't go to matches to support the team then? That has to be right because you claim to be a true fan but will not be going to cheer the team on next season will you.
Tracey wrote:Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUTSimon Templar wrote:Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Calling people PR plants is a cheap diversion trick but you persist in using it and you brown nose your paymaster (Crouch).
The only way Lowe will leave is when someone puts in a credible offer for the club and not before so get used to it and support the team you claim to be a fan of.
dave, millbrook says...
10:14am Thu 5 Jun 08
Vinnie Der Gran wrote:Really?
I am a Croatian from portsmouth and this country makes me sick. I am so glad we knocked your country out of the qualification for euro 2008. The only decent thing in your country is portsmouth, thats why I lived here.
Vinnie Der Gran, says...
8:12pm Thu 5 Jun 08
dave wrote:beacuse I enjoy Portsmouth so much
Vinnie Der Gran wrote: I am a Croatian from portsmouth and this country makes me sick. I am so glad we knocked your country out of the qualification for euro 2008. The only decent thing in your country is portsmouth, thats why I lived here.Really? If it's so bad then what are you doing here? Noone is stopping you going back to Croatia!
Tracey, Southampton says...
1:46am Fri 6 Jun 08
Simon Templar wrote:
Tracey wrote:More utter nonsense. Im no Crouch fan, he couldn\'t get rid of Lowe, but he was here less than 5% of the time Lowe has been, and I cannot see how you can level at him that he is at all cupable for inheriting Lowe\'s mess and then trying his best to put it right. I did welcome Crouch as it meant the end of Lowe, and certainly Crouch has endeared himself to the fans by risking his own money. Im sure all he wanted was, like the rest of us, a genuine figure head to be installed with some clout, instead we get the dinlo Lowe back So, why would I go and support a bunch of also rans put together by a set up that is the direct result of 10 years of Lowe\'s mismanagement, that is not what being a fan is about, its about adhering to your principles - you seem to think the city is full of passionless mugs cos we are protesting, well its because we care that we come on here and post vitriolic protests at hours of the day (not just office hours like some). All this real fan/supporter/fair weather fan is a non starter. Ive paid my fees for lifelong membership 10 times over - so Im making a stand, and many other die hard fans are too. I\'ve put much more money in than your friend Lowe for starters. You just dont get it do you, why would we go to matches, paying my hard earned money, to watch the product of the fans nemesis? Doesn\'t tally. I probably went to near on 1000 matches in 26 years when I felt the club, the team, my fellow fans and the city had something to be proud of. Why should anyone go now, just cos you spout this real fan BS and try and persuade us to keep this idiot in power by going. Real fans want the club back, i can see only one way that might happen, and it doesn\'t involve us trotting along like good little sheep keeping Lowe in his cosy little job. Trolls, PR plants, fans who go for the social and Lowe\'s little network of leeches will try and belittle our efforts to rid the city of this unwelcome individual, but the club\'s personel with forever change, the fans are here for the duration, so we will see this out and we will see the back of Lowe. People like you and Lowe make me genuinely ashamed to associate myself with Southampton. LOWE OUTSimon Templar wrote:Simon, so true saints fans don\'t go to matches to support the team then? That has to be right because you claim to be a true fan but will not be going to cheer the team on next season will you. Calling people PR plants is a cheap diversion trick but you persist in using it and you brown nose your paymaster (Crouch). The only way Lowe will leave is when someone puts in a credible offer for the club and not before so get used to it and support the team you claim to be a fan of.Tracey wrote:Tracey, you wouldn\'t know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn\'t, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUTSimon Templar wrote:Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS\'No financial troubles\' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe\'s astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN\'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe\'s stay of execution.
I cannot see how you can level at him that he is at all cupable for inheriting Lowe's mess
So, why would I go and support a bunch of also rans put together by a set up that is the direct result of 10 years of Lowe's mismanagement, that is not what being a fan is about
You just dont get it do you, why would we go to matches, paying my hard earned money, to watch the product of the fans nemesis?
Why should anyone go now, just cos you spout this real fan BS and try and persuade us to keep this idiot in power by going.
Real fans want the club back
Trolls, PR plants, fans who go for the social and Lowe's little network of leeches will try and belittle our efforts to rid the city of this unwelcome individual,
People like you and Lowe make me genuinely ashamed to associate myself with Southampton.
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Billy 2 Baps, says...
6:37pm Tue 3 Jun 08