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Lowe certain Poortvliet deal is still going ahead

6:14pm Tuesday 3rd June 2008

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RUPERT LOWE is confident the appointment of Poortvliet will be completed.

Helmond Sport say they have not yet agreed to release the man appointed as Saints' new head coach.

The Dutch side also seem to have no interest in losing the man who guided them to the brink of the Eredivisie.

Lowe, Saints PLC chairman, said: "We've just got to tie up the compensation issue and Jan has agreed to pay it out of his own pocket."

Helmond Sport director Mario Captein confirmed: "The situation is still the same as last week.

"He has two contracts, one with our club and one in Southampton, and that is the situation."

Captein added that Helmond would go to the Dutch FA if necessary to resolve the "unique" situation.

"That is what you must ask Jan himself," he said. "I have no deadline on when this has to be resolved.

"I don't think we can, so if we can't, we will go to the judge, the commission, and try and settle it in court.

"It is a unique situation. It has never been done that a trainer signs two contracts. It might be normal in England but it is not over here.

"We don't want him to go and now the club Saints and Jan must solve it with our club.

"In England, Southampton and Jan are discussing what to do now, so we are waiting.

"He has one year left on his contract - one year ago he signed a two year contract.

"We were very surprised to see him unveiled as Saints manager. I think he is the first trainer to sign two contracts at two different clubs."

Poortvliet had previously been quoted as saying: "I really hope that we can reach a deal. This is a unique chance. I need to look at myself now.

"They had to bring out that news, it's that simple. I only signed a pre-contract."


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Billy 2 Baps, says...
6:37pm Tue 3 Jun 08

He was always confident of all the other managers he appointed, such as Wigley. The deal should of been done, before the press conference was called. We could end up with egg on our faces

Billy 2 baps, says...
6:55pm Tue 3 Jun 08

The fact is, if a club is interested in a Manager or player. That club, should first contact the club they are currently with. Not go directly to individual. It's a matter of principal. When the SFA showed an interest in George Burley, they contacted the club first. Would we be happy, if the shoe was on the other foot? Judging by his clubs statement, it sounds like a spot of tapping up to me

David Crook, Yorkshire says...
6:58pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Come on Jan,take us to the promised land.
The Premiership.
Saints for ever,come on Rupert you can do it for us.
Every faith in all of you.
David Crook

Saint Madcap, Horndean says...
7:04pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Good old Rupert rides again.

By doing what they have done Southampton FC cannot complain about any club "tapping up" any player or manager (remember Hoddle).
That would be hypocritical and dear old Rupert is not a hypocrite is he? LOL coyr

Bobby, Stoke says...
7:22pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Poor old bungling Rupert. He just can't seem to get anything right! Southampton Football Club and The Daily Echo is a match made in heaven!

Saint, says...
7:25pm Tue 3 Jun 08

This is going to cost Southampton F.C.

Craig, Coventry says...
8:50pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ?
How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club

Super Legend Davs 74, woolston says...
8:56pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Craig wrote:
Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club
I support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless

Mystery Investor, Freemantle says...
8:59pm Tue 3 Jun 08

At this rate Saints should get in at least another TWO managers before the start of the season.

Ray, Eastleigh says...
9:12pm Tue 3 Jun 08

DONT PANIC WE NOW HAVE A "BUSINESS MAN" IN CHARGE SO EVERYTHING WILL BE OK NOW - WONT IT?

Craig, Coventry says...
9:23pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:
Craig wrote: Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club
I support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
You seem to support his desisions ! How many more managerial chances shall we give him The new guys are used to working in leagues that are at the same quality of 2nd Div or conference level anyone with an ounce of football knowledge knows we need a stong side to get out of the ccc The kids will do ok for a game or two but have neither the strength or experience to keep us up Go to the bookies now and put your money on the dutch guys getting sacked so Lowe can bring in someone new to try and save us from relegation H0W MANY MANAGERS WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE DOOR UNDER RUPERTS TIME THEN

Barry Mung, Morten Harket says...
9:29pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Pearson wanted serious money to stay.

Poortvliet + Wotte want next to nothing in wages (By football standards) BUT have agreed an incentive scheme.

If Saints get promoted next year, Poortvliet + Wotte stand to receive HUGE bonuses, the sort of money that could set them up for life. If they fail they'll simply get a living wage.

If nothing else, we are guaranteed two HIGHLY motivated managers next season, who'll be doing evrything they can to win.

Perhaps Saints should issue similar contracts to the players...?

Realist, says...
9:36pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Barry Mung wrote:
Pearson wanted serious money to stay. Poortvliet + Wotte want next to nothing in wages (By football standards) BUT have agreed an incentive scheme. If Saints get promoted next year, Poortvliet + Wotte stand to receive HUGE bonuses, the sort of money that could set them up for life. If they fail they'll simply get a living wage. If nothing else, we are guaranteed two HIGHLY motivated managers next season, who'll be doing evrything they can to win. Perhaps Saints should issue similar contracts to the players...?
Pearson didnt want serious money and Lowe/Wilde never had any intention of keeping Pearson.

Lowe picking up Poortvliets agent from Southampton Airport on March 1st !


Wilde tellling fans at the end of February within a week of Pearson being appointed that he was keen on a 'foreign coach'

Saint Stephen, Fareham says...
9:37pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Their wont be any fans left to watch Lowe has split this ONCE great club in 2. I for one wont be renewing my season ticket, and Ive watch saints for 42 years.

Super Legend Davs 74, woolston says...
9:41pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Craig wrote:
Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:
Craig wrote: Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club
I support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
You seem to support his desisions ! How many more managerial chances shall we give him The new guys are used to working in leagues that are at the same quality of 2nd Div or conference level anyone with an ounce of football knowledge knows we need a stong side to get out of the ccc The kids will do ok for a game or two but have neither the strength or experience to keep us up Go to the bookies now and put your money on the dutch guys getting sacked so Lowe can bring in someone new to try and save us from relegation H0W MANY MANAGERS WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH THE DOOR UNDER RUPERTS TIME THEN
It is ludicrous to suggest that a lower league manager does not have the ability to do well. Sir Alex started at St Mirren. Redcr*p at Bournemouth. Wenger at god knows where, but I bet it wasn't Lyon!! We need a strong side? How do yuo know they won't produce one? Did Man Us kids roll over and die in the 90s? No. The guy has played in aworld cup final for Christs sake, he must know a thing or two. If they perform poorly yes they will be sacked. Whoop de do, happens all the time to managers these days, unfortunately only 4 teams from the 92 can win their respective leagues. What based on his 3 wins in charge do you think NP would do any better than the dutch guys?

Dan, soton says...
9:44pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:
Craig wrote:
Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club
I support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
I agree that we dont know whether this is a bad managerial decision.... however I would say it has come too late - yet again we are writing off the summer to organise, motivate and train our squad.. furthermore, this appointment is somewhat of a risk as neither of these guys come with English football experience... I HOPE that this works out sincerely.. if it does then fair play to Lowe...

However, I must disagree regarding Pearson - considering he inherited an unmotivated and unfit squad none of which got a consistent run of games - Pearson came in and immediately addressed our defensive problems whilst commanding a bit of fight, discipline and slightly increased levels of fitness and enthusiasm.

COYR!

David Crook, Yorkshire says...
10:00pm Tue 3 Jun 08

All those who do not support Lowe,Wilde,Jan and his Dutch crew,go now.The moment has come now to be positive,and I feel this is the moment when saints move forward.Lowe and Wilde
are back and have learned from there mistakes,all those out there must believe in this,if you want your beloved saints to move forward.
Saints for ever
David Crook

Saint, says...
10:03pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Local news says that the Dutch chairman made it very clear a week ago that Jan can not and will not come. He now said that Rupert has ignored this, and they are not interested in a settlement and that Jan will not be our coach!

What a joke this board is!

Andy T, Salt Lake City, USA says...
10:08pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Dan wrote:
Super Legend Davs 74 wrote:
Craig wrote: Why do any of you Saints fans support Lowe ? How many times is he going to make such bad desisions on manager selection He has got us in the sad position we are in Gray a risk then he did it again with Wigley which really started us on the way to relegation He also empoyed on a great salary a rugby manager Now the Lowe fans are applauding his latest progect with the Dutch guys When will you Lowe supporters start smelling the coffee this guy knows nothing about running a football club Will it be another 3 or 4 managers and another relegation before you realise he will destroy our club
I support SAINTS not Lowe, I couldn't give a monkeys who is in charge. How though, can you say he has made a bad managerial decision? We don't know yet!! Who would you have chosen? NP was next to useless
I agree that we dont know whether this is a bad managerial decision.... however I would say it has come too late - yet again we are writing off the summer to organise, motivate and train our squad.. furthermore, this appointment is somewhat of a risk as neither of these guys come with English football experience... I HOPE that this works out sincerely.. if it does then fair play to Lowe... However, I must disagree regarding Pearson - considering he inherited an unmotivated and unfit squad none of which got a consistent run of games - Pearson came in and immediately addressed our defensive problems whilst commanding a bit of fight, discipline and slightly increased levels of fitness and enthusiasm. COYR!
I agree competely with you Dan. Pearson only had 14 games and it makes me sick when I hear fans say he almost got us relegated. Had Burley have stayed we would surely have gone down, the side was simply pathetic and would roll over and die after conceding a goal. He obviously had contacts in the game and used them to bring in 3 great players for this level that saved our bacon.

Craig, Coventry says...
10:13pm Tue 3 Jun 08

David Crook wrote:
All those who do not support Lowe,Wilde,Jan and his Dutch crew,go now.The moment has come now to be positive,and I feel this is the moment when saints move forward.Lowe and Wilde are back and have learned from there mistakes,all those out there must believe in this,if you want your beloved saints to move forward. Saints for ever David Crook
Lowe did not learn from his mistakes Gray was a mistake which was repeated again with Wigley Another gamble now with some unknown dutch guys is not learning from his mistakes You Lowe supportes astonish me He will finish us off The guy has no idea ask any of the previous managers

Saint, says...
10:14pm Tue 3 Jun 08

David Crook wrote:
All those who do not support Lowe,Wilde,Jan and his Dutch crew,go now.The moment has come now to be positive,and I feel this is the moment when saints move forward.Lowe and Wilde are back and have learned from there mistakes,all those out there must believe in this,if you want your beloved saints to move forward. Saints for ever David Crook
What tosh!

What proof have you got that they have learnt from there mistake. They still making them now. They are gambling with this club too.

As for Turncoat Wilde he has done nothing, but lied to us with false promises, then lied again, then lied again and has not stopped! You can not trust a word he says!


across the pond, slc says...
10:16pm Tue 3 Jun 08

How can we respect Lowe when we are given lies and false information? Lowe must know that we will get to the truth of the matter at some point, why the cloak and dagger stuff? could he not have been upfront, obviously not, it seems all underhand to me,how can he be sure of something that is not in his hands,Woopert the Truth will come back and bite you, we cannot believe one thing you say. You can't blame us for that!!!

terry brown, newcastle upon tyne says...
10:54pm Tue 3 Jun 08

come on u saints! can't wait for new season to start, Hope we can sort this managerial farce out and if it is the dutch guys,give them a chance. I love my team and am forever the optimist!

Arthur Mallard, The Duck Pond says...
11:13pm Tue 3 Jun 08

David Crook wrote:
All those who do not support Lowe,Wilde,Jan and his Dutch crew,go now.The moment has come now to be positive,and I feel this is the moment when saints move forward.Lowe and Wilde are back and have learned from there mistakes,all those out there must believe in this,if you want your beloved saints to move forward. Saints for ever David Crook
Me and my mates were hanging out at the pond today, thinking how it's really quiet now that Rupert is too busy to blast away at us. We are worried though. It's no good appointing a manager who still has a job somewhere else. That's quite a mistake. Terry Moorhen reckons it could be construed as 'tapping up'. Dave Heron thinks it could be against the rules. Jim Coot asked whether Michael Wilde had been gagged. The whole pond guano-ed itself laughing when Sid Seagull asked if David Crook was not taking the recommended dose.

Dick Van Dyke, up a chimney says...
11:22pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Chim chiminey
Chim chiminey
Chim chim cher-ee!
A sweep is as lucky
As lucky can be

Chim chiminey
Chim chiminey
Chim chim cher-oo!
Good luck will rub off when
I shake 'ands with you
Or blow me a kiss
And that's lucky too

COYR!

Jesus_02, kingsland says...
11:44pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Barry Mung wrote:
Pearson wanted serious money to stay. Poortvliet + Wotte want next to nothing in wages (By football standards) BUT have agreed an incentive scheme. If Saints get promoted next year, Poortvliet + Wotte stand to receive HUGE bonuses, the sort of money that could set them up for life. If they fail they'll simply get a living wage. If nothing else, we are guaranteed two HIGHLY motivated managers next season, who'll be doing evrything they can to win. Perhaps Saints should issue similar contracts to the players...?
Not a bad idea

Get some proper premiership mercenaries in and agree to split the difference between Championship and Premiership income for the first year should we be promoted.

That would motivate a team if dynamic duo couldn't!

Trusupporta, Southampton says...
11:56pm Tue 3 Jun 08

I've noticed one or two announcements from those alleging long term support of the club of decisions not to renew season tickets because of Lowe's return and Pearson being "sacked". The season ticket faithful renewed before the last game of the season and did not wait to see which division we'd be in. Sounds more like poor excuses coming from fair-weather supporters.

Southampton FEEDER CLUB, St Marys says...
12:04am Wed 4 Jun 08

Helmond Sport have stated tonight that Jan Poortvliet will not be joining Saints,he is to see out the remainder of his contract at the Dutch club.


Kimbo, says...
12:13am Wed 4 Jun 08

Rupert Lowe unveiled shock signing Ronaldo to an astonished footballing papparazi.

The player himself had struggled to maintain his silence since his Champions league win in Moscow and the reasons why were revealed when he stepped out from behind a bright red curtain in the Mick Channon suite.

"I felt that after the Champions League final there was nothing left for me to achieve in the game" stated the Portugese International, "However when I found out that Rupert was back in charge at Saints i felt that spark of excitement return, I contacted my agent and said get me on the next Virgin Voyager to Southampton Central"

"When I sat in the stands on the day Saints were relegated I realised that Wayne & I were not the most hated men in the ground, this was not a feeling we were used to, we knew that these were special fans, I knew I had to right the great wrong that my team mates had perpetuated, I told no one apart from Roy Keane, sadly his attempts that day to inform Saints supporters that they might get two of our squad were misinterpretted as he warmd down"

However as Man Utd fans mourned it became clear that all was not well with Saints fans, polls on the saints forum revealed that 98% thought Rupert should resign for failing to land Rooney as well, 75% felt betrayed because they thought we should be buying Dutch players, 80% said that Ronaldo wasnt local and had played hockey at school so was therefore unwelcome and 94% stated that when was someone with a name like Ronaldo a footballing man.

On other internet message boards fans like Imthegreatest saintsfansincetheclu
bwasformedin2001Sain
t summed up the mood. " Lowe doesnt understand football, Saints have a footballing tradition of getting in washed up players in their mid 30's and taking their careers even more downhill, whats he doing signing Ronaldo when Chris Lucketti is available"

Lowe himself was unavailable for comment, smuggled out of the stadium as a mob of irate supporters assembled outside, held back by a combination of stewards and riot police, effigys of Lowe were burnt on a bonfire of hockey sticks whilst Old age pensioners spat on the floor at the mention of his name.

"Its like Lew Chatterley has been erased from the history books" said one old timer, "by signing Ronaldo, Lowe has shown he is clueless when it comes to football

Mark Rees, San Francisco (Ex Pat) says...
12:35am Wed 4 Jun 08

How on Gods green earth did Rupert Lowe ever get to own his own company? How could this not have been forecast?
Is he really as dumb and disorganized a businessman as this debacle makes him out to be? Since he, the members of the board and Poortvliet had obviously not cleared this with Helmond Sport it take an level of arrogance that only somebody like him could achieve to even think about making such a premature announcement. It puts Helmond Sport in the driving seat during any financial negotiations and that could end up costing us a lot of money. If Poortvliet can't afford to buy himself out of his contract are the Saints going to be on the hook for any money? What was Lowe thinking, if in fact, he was thinking? Even though I don't like or trust Lowe, I was prepared to believe that there was an outside chance he might have learned from previous mistakes and was going to approach the job with more sense. Given these early actions all I can say is, I was seriously mistaken. It looks like we're in for more of the same. Arrogance, bad business decisions, financial ineptitude and more interference in a part of the company (football) where we have all seen he has no ability, experience or skill. Mind you, he continues to show few skills at all which could be of any use to the Saints.

Sam please let there be someone out there, Bitterne Park says...
7:46am Wed 4 Jun 08

Do any one know whether the people who were rumoured to takeover/buy the Saints has actually stated that they are no longer interested,I heard just because we have informed the stock exchange that this does not mean the takeover can't happen.

Andy Andrews, Tunisia holiday/West End says...
7:58am Wed 4 Jun 08

Trusupporta wrote:
I've noticed one or two announcements from those alleging long term support of the club of decisions not to renew season tickets because of Lowe's return and Pearson being "sacked". The season ticket faithful renewed before the last game of the season and did not wait to see which division we'd be in. Sounds more like poor excuses coming from fair-weather supporters.
If you read the posts properly you would see that 100s or 1000s of true supporters are not renewing their season tickets after many, many years so are certainly not "fair-weather supporters". They realise the only way to get rid of Lowe and his cronies, and to get the club back on track, is to deny Lowe money at the turnstiles and at the St Mary's shop. LOWE OUT. BOYCOTT ST MARY's.

Ruperts Nemisis, Southampton says...
8:00am Wed 4 Jun 08

Remember Rupert when you called Spurs "North London Yobbos" for taking Hoddle away from Saints.......as they say what goes round comes around!! What an embarassment to SFC you really are....

mike, hedge end says...
8:19am Wed 4 Jun 08

And Plan B is----------?

Ben, Southampton says...
8:23am Wed 4 Jun 08

Rupert Lowe = Muppet!
Saints = Shambles!

Change the record......

John B, Bitterne says...
8:31am Wed 4 Jun 08

Andy Andrews wrote:
Trusupporta wrote: I've noticed one or two announcements from those alleging long term support of the club of decisions not to renew season tickets because of Lowe's return and Pearson being "sacked". The season ticket faithful renewed before the last game of the season and did not wait to see which division we'd be in. Sounds more like poor excuses coming from fair-weather supporters.
If you read the posts properly you would see that 100s or 1000s of true supporters are not renewing their season tickets after many, many years so are certainly not "fair-weather supporters". They realise the only way to get rid of Lowe and his cronies, and to get the club back on track, is to deny Lowe money at the turnstiles and at the St Mary's shop. LOWE OUT. BOYCOTT ST MARY's.
How will boycotting St Mary's get Lowe out when the Shareholders want him.

Boycotting only prolongs our time in the Championship or even may send us to League 1.

I dont understand your logic please can you explain as I thought the only way Lowe could go is if someone else bought out the shares

red n white, southampton says...
8:59am Wed 4 Jun 08

Lowe must of known that jan was still in contract with his present club and therefore should of waited for jan to pay his own compensation fee b4 flamin announcin to the world that hes our new man. How embarrassin for us the supporters to read all this in the way its happened. Im still coming to terms with the fact that pearson wont be here next season after the good work hes done and the spirit and fight he gave the players, now its this ballshit, what the hell is lowe and wilde doin apart from making us a bigger laughing stock. Please Helmond keep jan there we dont want him then again that dont matter does it as its only what LOWE WANTS and always will be. **** and ive already renewed my season ticket. OH WELL LOVELY SHIRT THANKS UMBRO.

the totton scrutineer, TOTTON says...
9:01am Wed 4 Jun 08

So Rupert is "confident" that doesn't inspire anyone. All I can say is it better be successful or I can see another "Lowe Out Campaign" But who on the board will have the courage to vote him off? Wilde? I think not.Let's hope we all see a happy ending with SFC promoted and Lowe praised from roof tops I for one would like to see it .But I have my doubts

Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away says...
9:17am Wed 4 Jun 08

What are the odds for southampton to be relegated this season???

We might as well get a house out of it

Barnacle Bill, somewhere on the high seas says...
9:33am Wed 4 Jun 08

Muse you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic mate if you believe the way to live your life is to blindly follow people when you know what they are doing will not work or is wrong. That is how Hitler got to power mate. Weaklings like you are the reason Lowe has got a second chance to wreck our club.

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9:36am Wed 4 Jun 08

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He lives in that ambulance that was parked on hythe marshes

One team in 'ampshire, says...
9:55am Wed 4 Jun 08

For the Blue few that frequent this board - please answer the below questions;

Which south coast club has the biggest fan base despite one riding high in the Prem & one langrishing in the Championship?

Who only sold 17,000 against Blackburn, a game 2 weeks before an fa cup final & a chance that could have put their team 5th in the table ?

Who had to put their fa cup tickets on gereral sale as embarrassingly they couldn't shift them ?

Answers on a postcard please

Arthur Name, The Toon says...
10:05am Wed 4 Jun 08

terry brown wrote:
come on u saints! can't wait for new season to start, Hope we can sort this managerial farce out and if it is the dutch guys,give them a chance. I love my team and am forever the optimist!
Trouble is Terry, its not just the Management situation that is farcical, it goes above that with a wedge between a vast section of the support and the board.

I agree the Dutch lads need to be given a chance before we all condemn them before theyve started. Its Sit or bust for Saints this year I think...

I too love my club, not quite as optimistic as you tho, and I know this town has a way of breeding blind optimism amongst football fans in the face of evidence to the contrary !!

Good to hear of another Saint in the Toon - there really isnt enough red n white here.

Ted Stripes, Skatesville says...
10:07am Wed 4 Jun 08

Saint Stephen wrote:
Their wont be any fans left to watch Lowe has split this ONCE great club in 2. I for one wont be renewing my season ticket, and Ive watch saints for 42 years.
Call that support we can do without you.

mark wm, tooting says...
10:31am Wed 4 Jun 08

so. if blackburn are being paid £4.6m compensation for mark hughes, that should mean that, pro rata, we have to stump up, ooh, something in the region of tuppence ha'penny to helmond for jan poortakabin. dig deep rupert

allsaintsnocurves, southampton says...
10:39am Wed 4 Jun 08

Surely it's not possible to have 2 conflicting contracts...isn't that illegal? As Lowe puts it..
"He has two contracts, one with our club and one in Southampton, and that is the situation."

As I knew would happen as soon as Lowe puts his nose back into our club I start to lose interest...I am actually willing us to fail...why you ask?...because he never does anything for the fans...he doesn't care about us...why should we care about him? Saints will still be here long after Lowe...

Gazzer, Southampton says...
10:46am Wed 4 Jun 08

Panto has come early to Saints that much is true. To our Coventry friend:- As fans we can’t do much without jeopardising the whole club. We don’t and will not support RL until he does right by the club, but we have to put up with him. My hope is he provides the satiability, that will hopefully encourage an investor to pay what is needed for RL and his duck shooting pals to go and shoot in pastures new. To the gloating Portsmouth supporter, enjoy it while you can, whether you like it or not your glory will be short lived, and the financing will not last for ever. A bad season this year will see you in the same state we are in. However, we have our new stadium, a great training facility and the base to build on. So like the phoenix from the flames we will rise again. It doesn’t please me to say it, believe it or not, but Portsmouth are stuffed if your rich man walks, cos you have nothing in the way of foundations in this cruel world we know and love as football. Last point as you run around your glass house Lovin it Lovin it, don’t throw your stones too hard or high. Southampton will get back to where we belong in the premiership, and if Pompy are still there it will be great for South Coast football. Both sets of supporters can enjoy friendly good natured banter again and not this brainless rubbish that morons keep publishing on our threads. Play up Pompy cos you really need to, the Saints are coming and you know it, just a matter of time. Remember he who laughs last, laughs the longest. Happy days. COYR

threestands, Bournemouth says...
12:51pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Kimbo wrote:
Rupert Lowe unveiled shock signing Ronaldo to an astonished footballing papparazi. The player himself had struggled to maintain his silence since his Champions league win in Moscow and the reasons why were revealed when he stepped out from behind a bright red curtain in the Mick Channon suite. \"I felt that after the Champions League final there was nothing left for me to achieve in the game\" stated the Portugese International, \"However when I found out that Rupert was back in charge at Saints i felt that spark of excitement return, I contacted my agent and said get me on the next Virgin Voyager to Southampton Central\" \"When I sat in the stands on the day Saints were relegated I realised that Wayne & I were not the most hated men in the ground, this was not a feeling we were used to, we knew that these were special fans, I knew I had to right the great wrong that my team mates had perpetuated, I told no one apart from Roy Keane, sadly his attempts that day to inform Saints supporters that they might get two of our squad were misinterpretted as he warmd down\" However as Man Utd fans mourned it became clear that all was not well with Saints fans, polls on the saints forum revealed that 98% thought Rupert should resign for failing to land Rooney as well, 75% felt betrayed because they thought we should be buying Dutch players, 80% said that Ronaldo wasnt local and had played hockey at school so was therefore unwelcome and 94% stated that when was someone with a name like Ronaldo a footballing man. On other internet message boards fans like Imthegreatest saintsfansincetheclu bwasformedin2001Sain t summed up the mood. \" Lowe doesnt understand football, Saints have a footballing tradition of getting in washed up players in their mid 30\'s and taking their careers even more downhill, whats he doing signing Ronaldo when Chris Lucketti is available\" Lowe himself was unavailable for comment, smuggled out of the stadium as a mob of irate supporters assembled outside, held back by a combination of stewards and riot police, effigys of Lowe were burnt on a bonfire of hockey sticks whilst Old age pensioners spat on the floor at the mention of his name. \"Its like Lew Chatterley has been erased from the history books\" said one old timer, \"by signing Ronaldo, Lowe has shown he is clueless when it comes to football
Spot on !!!!!

Dean, Southampton says...
12:56pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Saint Stu wrote:
I for one welcomed the return of Lowe. Thought he'd come in and steady the ship. Do a bit of trimming here and there. Prepare for a serious investor to come in who could bank roll us back to the Premiership. Obviously making a few quid for him along the way. Now I see him for the prize prat he really is. Within 5 mins of being back at the helm he's announced to the world that Jan Portaloo is our boss. 5 mins later he's telling us that he's "confident" that Jan (bird's name by the way) is the new boss. Confident?? He's just paraded the chap around it Saints colours and told the world that he's our boss. He shouldn't be confident, he should be 100% bloody certain he's our boss!! An absolute **** up! If any compensation has to be paid it should not come from the Saints debt, but from Rupert Lowe's personal piggy bank. Sort it out you clowns!!!
Totally agree with this post.
I was glad to see Lowe go first time, but had some confidence when he came back that he could steady the ship.
This latest farce sums the man up.
Rupert Lowe is probably the worst thing that has ever happened to Saints.
Why parade a man to the fans and press when he had not even sorted a deal with the mans current club.
This now drives home our current situation. We cannot even win a battle with a small time outfit the equivalent of Chesterfield.

threestands, Bournemouth says...
1:00pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Barnacle Bill wrote:
Muse you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic mate if you believe the way to live your life is to blindly follow people when you know what they are doing will not work or is wrong. That is how Hitler got to power mate. Weaklings like you are the reason Lowe has got a second chance to wreck our club.
"When you know what they are doing is wrong" How do you know what they are doing is wrong? The promblem with people like you is that YOU blindly follow the mob. You are the weak one. But well done for getting Hitler into a post, says it all really.

Rich, Southampton says...
2:30pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Picture this... Jan has a 2 year contract with Saints, he signs up with a foreign team after 1 year hoping to sort out a deal with saints.Something tells me Rupert would go apeshit and call the offending team every name under the sun ! Yet another hypocritical, amateur, embarrassing moment from the life of Rupert the ****.

Simon Templar, Woolston says...
2:53pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Come PR guys, PR your weasel client out of this one. Lowe stinks, his PR plants stick, the rest of the board stinks - the club is rotten to the core with the fans being treated like absolute mugs.

Go on Lowe lifes, give it your little smarmy, nonsensical line: 'Go and support someone else blah, blah, blah'.

Fact is, we will always support the idea of Saints being a great club at the heart of city which gives us something back for our unwavering support, but at the moment, it is not a great club.

We will not blindly go to support ane regime that holds us in the upmost comtempt.

Love Saints, Hate Lowe.

LOWE OUT.

cant believe it, says...
4:32pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team.

FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS

Simon Templar, Wooston says...
4:46pm Wed 4 Jun 08

cant believe it wrote:
Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team.

FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE.

The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe.

Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.

Tracey, Southampton says...
6:42pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Simon,

Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated.

I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible).

Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?

Tracey, Southampton says...
6:50pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Kimbo wrote:
Rupert Lowe unveiled shock signing Ronaldo to an astonished footballing papparazi. The player himself had struggled to maintain his silence since his Champions league win in Moscow and the reasons why were revealed when he stepped out from behind a bright red curtain in the Mick Channon suite. "I felt that after the Champions League final there was nothing left for me to achieve in the game" stated the Portugese International, "However when I found out that Rupert was back in charge at Saints i felt that spark of excitement return, I contacted my agent and said get me on the next Virgin Voyager to Southampton Central" "When I sat in the stands on the day Saints were relegated I realised that Wayne & I were not the most hated men in the ground, this was not a feeling we were used to, we knew that these were special fans, I knew I had to right the great wrong that my team mates had perpetuated, I told no one apart from Roy Keane, sadly his attempts that day to inform Saints supporters that they might get two of our squad were misinterpretted as he warmd down" However as Man Utd fans mourned it became clear that all was not well with Saints fans, polls on the saints forum revealed that 98% thought Rupert should resign for failing to land Rooney as well, 75% felt betrayed because they thought we should be buying Dutch players, 80% said that Ronaldo wasnt local and had played hockey at school so was therefore unwelcome and 94% stated that when was someone with a name like Ronaldo a footballing man. On other internet message boards fans like Imthegreatest saintsfansincetheclu bwasformedin2001Sain t summed up the mood. " Lowe doesnt understand football, Saints have a footballing tradition of getting in washed up players in their mid 30's and taking their careers even more downhill, whats he doing signing Ronaldo when Chris Lucketti is available" Lowe himself was unavailable for comment, smuggled out of the stadium as a mob of irate supporters assembled outside, held back by a combination of stewards and riot police, effigys of Lowe were burnt on a bonfire of hockey sticks whilst Old age pensioners spat on the floor at the mention of his name. "Its like Lew Chatterley has been erased from the history books" said one old timer, "by signing Ronaldo, Lowe has shown he is clueless when it comes to football
LOL!!!!!!!!!

Crew657, The New Forest says...
7:20pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
shut it scummer

crew 657, running away at covent garden, skateland says...
7:47pm Wed 4 Jun 08

IAM A SAD OBSESSED SKATE CYBER WARRIOR INBRED THAT HAZ NO FREINDS THA'TS WHY IM ON HEAR ORL DAY INNIT

Simon Templar, Woolston says...
7:51pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Simon,

Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated.

I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible).

Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection.

Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record.

LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUT

Millsey - wink wink, says...
8:40pm Wed 4 Jun 08

I am so happy at Lowe being back in charge,he could be own our Milan Mandaric - he was unlucky first time round, I think we should all back him. He is an astute business man. I know how we hate to compare ourselves to the skates, but we need to look up at them at the moment, and I think Rupert is the man to take us back to those heights!

Long live Rupert Lowe!!

John B, Bitterne says...
9:27pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Simon Templar wrote:
Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUT
How do you know Tracey is a PR Plant I have even been accussed of being Rupert Lowe as well as a plant which of course I am not.

Tracey, Southampton says...
10:21pm Wed 4 Jun 08

Simon Templar wrote:
Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUT
Simon, so true saints fans don't go to matches to support the team then? That has to be right because you claim to be a true fan but will not be going to cheer the team on next season will you.

Calling people PR plants is a cheap diversion trick but you persist in using it and you brown nose your paymaster (Crouch).

The only way Lowe will leave is when someone puts in a credible offer for the club and not before so get used to it and support the team you claim to be a fan of.

Tracey, Southampton says...
10:23pm Wed 4 Jun 08

John B wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUT
How do you know Tracey is a PR Plant I have even been accussed of being Rupert Lowe as well as a plant which of course I am not.
John,

With all the plants Lowe has on these message boards, and no doubt other boards he must be nearly broke by now LOL

Vinnie Der Gran, says...
11:00pm Wed 4 Jun 08

I am a Croatian from portsmouth and this country makes me sick. I am so glad we knocked your country out of the qualification for euro 2008. The only decent thing in your country is portsmouth, thats why I lived here.

Simon Templar, Woolston says...
6:53am Thu 5 Jun 08

Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
'No financial troubles' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe's astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe's stay of execution.
Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
Tracey, you wouldn't know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn't, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUT
Simon, so true saints fans don't go to matches to support the team then? That has to be right because you claim to be a true fan but will not be going to cheer the team on next season will you.

Calling people PR plants is a cheap diversion trick but you persist in using it and you brown nose your paymaster (Crouch).

The only way Lowe will leave is when someone puts in a credible offer for the club and not before so get used to it and support the team you claim to be a fan of.
More utter nonsense. Im no Crouch fan, he couldn't get rid of Lowe, but he was here less than 5% of the time Lowe has been, and I cannot see how you can level at him that he is at all cupable for inheriting Lowe's mess and then trying his best to put it right. I did welcome Crouch as it meant the end of Lowe, and certainly Crouch has endeared himself to the fans by risking his own money. Im sure all he wanted was, like the rest of us, a genuine figure head to be installed with some clout, instead we get the dinlo Lowe back

So, why would I go and support a bunch of also rans put together by a set up that is the direct result of 10 years of Lowe's mismanagement, that is not what being a fan is about, its about adhering to your principles - you seem to think the city is full of passionless mugs cos we are protesting, well its because we care that we come on here and post vitriolic protests at hours of the day (not just office hours like some). All this real fan/supporter/fair weather fan is a non starter. Ive paid my fees for lifelong membership 10 times over - so Im making a stand, and many other die hard fans are too. I've put much more money in than your friend Lowe for starters.

You just dont get it do you, why would we go to matches, paying my hard earned money, to watch the product of the fans nemesis? Doesn't tally. I probably went to near on 1000 matches in 26 years when I felt the club, the team, my fellow fans and the city had something to be proud of. Why should anyone go now, just cos you spout this real fan BS and try and persuade us to keep this idiot in power by going.

Real fans want the club back, i can see only one way that might happen, and it doesn't involve us trotting along like good little sheep keeping Lowe in his cosy little job. Trolls, PR plants, fans who go for the social and Lowe's little network of leeches will try and belittle our efforts to rid the city of this unwelcome individual, but the club's personel with forever change, the fans are here for the duration, so we will see this out and we will see the back of Lowe.

People like you and Lowe make me genuinely ashamed to associate myself with Southampton.

LOWE OUT

dave, millbrook says...
10:14am Thu 5 Jun 08

Vinnie Der Gran wrote:
I am a Croatian from portsmouth and this country makes me sick. I am so glad we knocked your country out of the qualification for euro 2008. The only decent thing in your country is portsmouth, thats why I lived here.
Really?
If it's so bad then what are you doing here?
Noone is stopping you going back to Croatia!

Vinnie Der Gran, says...
8:12pm Thu 5 Jun 08

dave wrote:
Vinnie Der Gran wrote: I am a Croatian from portsmouth and this country makes me sick. I am so glad we knocked your country out of the qualification for euro 2008. The only decent thing in your country is portsmouth, thats why I lived here.
Really? If it's so bad then what are you doing here? Noone is stopping you going back to Croatia!
beacuse I enjoy Portsmouth so much

Tracey, Southampton says...
1:46am Fri 6 Jun 08

Simon Templar wrote:
Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
Tracey wrote:
Simon Templar wrote:
cant believe it wrote: Lowe is a business man, when it comes to finance and balancing the ship he knows what hes doing, and we never had financial troubles with him at the helm. But when it comes to football he knows nothing,we need someone with a decent football knowledge to make them decisions, he should be left to the finance and someone else the decision maker when it comes to the team. FOR GOD SAKE LOWE PLEASE TAKE THE ADVICE OF US SUPPORTERS
\'No financial troubles\' - really, no you are right, we were splashing the cash all over the show, all from Lowe\'s astute business brain benefitting the team. Did it hell, he ran a tight ship so you could keep his handsome salary intact. THE MAN IS A PARASITE, HIS SUPPORTERS ON HERE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN HIM, TERRACE SUPPORTERS CAN\'T STAND THE SIGHT OF HIS SMUG FACE. The sooner the club implodes and he is marched out of town the better, its a risky path to be force down, but believe me, the club will never prosper under Lowe. Boycott the club, do not prolong Lowe\'s stay of execution.
Simon, Lowe took a hefty pay cut when the team got relegated. I see you are still such a fan that you refuse to support the team and hope the club go bust. You sound more and more like a pompey fan (not you Sailor Sam as you are sensible). Oh btw, the club hardly prospered when your beloved Crouch was chairman, who run up debts of £1 million per month by letting costs escalate?
Tracey, you wouldn\'t know a real saints fan if he walked up to your PR HQ in Oxford and showed you his 1979-1987 programme collection. Seriously, stop mentioning Pompey, when have I ever mentioned them, its a cheap diversion trick, stop brown nosing you paymaster and listen to the public. I just want Lowe and you out of this city. People have often campaigned against injustices, why if this different, it isn\'t, change the record. LOWE AND HIS PR FIRM OUT
Simon, so true saints fans don\'t go to matches to support the team then? That has to be right because you claim to be a true fan but will not be going to cheer the team on next season will you. Calling people PR plants is a cheap diversion trick but you persist in using it and you brown nose your paymaster (Crouch). The only way Lowe will leave is when someone puts in a credible offer for the club and not before so get used to it and support the team you claim to be a fan of.
More utter nonsense. Im no Crouch fan, he couldn\'t get rid of Lowe, but he was here less than 5% of the time Lowe has been, and I cannot see how you can level at him that he is at all cupable for inheriting Lowe\'s mess and then trying his best to put it right. I did welcome Crouch as it meant the end of Lowe, and certainly Crouch has endeared himself to the fans by risking his own money. Im sure all he wanted was, like the rest of us, a genuine figure head to be installed with some clout, instead we get the dinlo Lowe back So, why would I go and support a bunch of also rans put together by a set up that is the direct result of 10 years of Lowe\'s mismanagement, that is not what being a fan is about, its about adhering to your principles - you seem to think the city is full of passionless mugs cos we are protesting, well its because we care that we come on here and post vitriolic protests at hours of the day (not just office hours like some). All this real fan/supporter/fair weather fan is a non starter. Ive paid my fees for lifelong membership 10 times over - so Im making a stand, and many other die hard fans are too. I\'ve put much more money in than your friend Lowe for starters. You just dont get it do you, why would we go to matches, paying my hard earned money, to watch the product of the fans nemesis? Doesn\'t tally. I probably went to near on 1000 matches in 26 years when I felt the club, the team, my fellow fans and the city had something to be proud of. Why should anyone go now, just cos you spout this real fan BS and try and persuade us to keep this idiot in power by going. Real fans want the club back, i can see only one way that might happen, and it doesn\'t involve us trotting along like good little sheep keeping Lowe in his cosy little job. Trolls, PR plants, fans who go for the social and Lowe\'s little network of leeches will try and belittle our efforts to rid the city of this unwelcome individual, but the club\'s personel with forever change, the fans are here for the duration, so we will see this out and we will see the back of Lowe. People like you and Lowe make me genuinely ashamed to associate myself with Southampton. LOWE OUT
I cannot see how you can level at him that he is at all cupable for inheriting Lowe's mess


When Crouch was on the board spending escalated and debts rose.

So, why would I go and support a bunch of also rans put together by a set up that is the direct result of 10 years of Lowe's mismanagement, that is not what being a fan is about


So are you now saying that being a fan is not about supporting the team and cheering the players on?

You just dont get it do you, why would we go to matches, paying my hard earned money, to watch the product of the fans nemesis?


Just because someone doesn't like the chairman doesn't mean they have to boycott the team. I don't like Sir Terry Leahy but I still hop at Tesco.

Why should anyone go now, just cos you spout this real fan BS and try and persuade us to keep this idiot in power by going.


Lets get one thing straight shall we Simon, you called your self a 'real fan' long before I started saying it on here so dont you go accusing me of spouting 'real fan' nonsense.

Real fans want the club back


Oh lookie here, the start of your very next paragraph - 'real fan' BS.

Saints is a plc, if you want ownership of it or just a say in its running then buy some **** shares.

Trolls, PR plants, fans who go for the social and Lowe's little network of leeches will try and belittle our efforts to rid the city of this unwelcome individual,


So what is your alternative then? How about you draw up a business plan and then set about finding investors. Put in a credible offer for the club with proper guarantees of future funding and you wont see Lowe for the dust.

You wont get rid of Lowe by stamping your feet or throwing your toys out of the pram, you will only see him gone when an acceptable offer is put in.

People like you and Lowe make me genuinely ashamed to associate myself with Southampton.


People like me? I point out that money can't be spent if it isnt in the bank means I'm somehow evil? For goodness sake Simon do you really want Saints to go bust?

As for people like Lowe who try to run a profitable business that can prosper in the long run, what problem do you have with that?

If you are so ashamed to associate yourself with Southampton then go to pompey. You would make a good pompey supporter with your attitude towards Saints.

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