John B wrote:
I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

Saint Nick wrote:
What's worrying me now isn't the coaching set up but the fact we clearly need to sell some players to survive. There aren't many of any worth left and our youth team finished bottom of their group last season (even Pimpey finished two places about us). Troubling times indeed.

John B wrote:
I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

Jesus_02 wrote:

John B wrote: I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

Who do you think you are? Wishing people the best and thanking "Mr Dodd" as if you are an authoruty and spokes person for Saints Unbelievable!

Gorman's Tache wrote:

John B wrote: I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

Good Morning Rupert, how's the weather at your Cotswold Estate today? Have the gardeners finished pruning your petunias? About to settle down for tea and crumpets before setting off down to Southampton to do some more sackings?

Sailor Sam wrote:
I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

John B Fan Club wrote:
Go on John B, you put them in their place son. John B for Manager!!!!

Sailor Sam wrote:
I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

John B wrote:
I see the moaning brigade are out in force.

I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future.

I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

John B wrote:

John B Fan Club wrote: Go on John B, you put them in their place son. John B for Manager!!!!

Thank you. I am glad my EBay feedback level is better than my feedback on this site. All this ranting about things that posters are assuming is extremely tiresome. SFC are in the mire financially and we should do the best to go forward not continually having a go at the board on every decision they take. I will be extremely critical if Jan the Dutchman does not eventually become head coach but we don’t know what is happening behind the scenes. The SFC site says the new coaching team is in place

mullingar wrote:

Saint Nick wrote:
What\'s worrying me now isn\'t the coaching set up but the fact we clearly need to sell some players to survive. There aren\'t many of any worth left and our youth team finished bottom of their group last season (even Pimpey finished two places about us). Troubling times indeed.

Sorry, who have we sold yet?
We have signed an exciting winger from Derby, an experienced midfielder from Plymouth and Chris Perry to bolster the defence next season - in difficult times, that seems pretty good to me so far!
And if you want to believe yesterday\'s press - Richard Wright could be coming back as well!
As for the Youth side - the U18\'s finished sixth last season, not bottom!

Scott wrote:
When will Lowe and Wilde come clean about the salaries they are taking from our club? They were quick enough to replace Leon Crouch who didn't draw a wage!! Come on you spineless pair try and stand up and be men!!

Sailor Sam wrote:
I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

Biggeration wrote:
Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It's the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It's a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It's the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It's a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

You are barking. Not insane, barking mad. Let's have an intelligent debate PLEASE. You make yourself look so silly. If the Club goes into Administration the only winner (and rarely a big one) is the VAT Man and Her Majesty Stealer of Taxes. Everyone else is completely at the bottom of the pile.

Biggeration wrote:

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It's the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It's a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

You are barking. Not insane, barking mad. Let's have an intelligent debate PLEASE. You make yourself look so silly. If the Club goes into Administration the only winner (and rarely a big one) is the VAT Man and Her Majesty Stealer of Taxes. Everyone else is completely at the bottom of the pile.

Let's have a debate then. Explain to me what will happen under adminstration. An Adminstrator will be appointed, who will look at the assets of the club against its liabilities and creditors. They will see if the club is a going concern and what plans the major shareholders have (if any) to inject fresh capital into the business. As our major shareholders have NO plans to inject any money into the club, then I expect the Administrator will conclude they are passive and should have no say in any possible bids from third parties to take the club/business forward. A period of notice will be served allowing individuals/consorti ums/businesses to bid for the business. Messrs Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Askham etc will all have the opportunity to put forward their own bids... but I very much doubt they will. It would be a first for any of them to put money into the club. The biggest single factor putting potential investors off Saints, is the attitude of our major shareholders. In adminstration, that obstacle will be out of the way. And you tell me that Administration is a bad thing? over to you....

Biggeration wrote:

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It's the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It's a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

You are barking. Not insane, barking mad. Let's have an intelligent debate PLEASE. You make yourself look so silly. If the Club goes into Administration the only winner (and rarely a big one) is the VAT Man and Her Majesty Stealer of Taxes. Everyone else is completely at the bottom of the pile.

Let's have a debate then. Explain to me what will happen under adminstration. An Adminstrator will be appointed, who will look at the assets of the club against its liabilities and creditors. They will see if the club is a going concern and what plans the major shareholders have (if any) to inject fresh capital into the business. As our major shareholders have NO plans to inject any money into the club, then I expect the Administrator will conclude they are passive and should have no say in any possible bids from third parties to take the club/business forward. A period of notice will be served allowing individuals/consorti ums/businesses to bid for the business. Messrs Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Askham etc will all have the opportunity to put forward their own bids... but I very much doubt they will. It would be a first for any of them to put money into the club. The biggest single factor putting potential investors off Saints, is the attitude of our major shareholders. In adminstration, that obstacle will be out of the way. And you tell me that Administration is a bad thing? over to you....

John B wrote:
I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

Kleberson wrote:
Hello peeps. Is Kleberson here. I is not knowing what is happen. i is suppose to be sign for South Hampton this day, but no-one have come and get me from airport. Mr Rupert tell me he is send a man in a car and get me so I can sign and play but I see no-one. What is go on? Some people say it is wind-up. What is wind-up? I very much want play for South Hampton and now I is stuck at airport with nowhere to sleep and no money to get home to Brazil. Please help. Kleberson

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote:

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It's the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It's a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

You are barking. Not insane, barking mad. Let's have an intelligent debate PLEASE. You make yourself look so silly. If the Club goes into Administration the only winner (and rarely a big one) is the VAT Man and Her Majesty Stealer of Taxes. Everyone else is completely at the bottom of the pile.

Let's have a debate then. Explain to me what will happen under adminstration. An Adminstrator will be appointed, who will look at the assets of the club against its liabilities and creditors. They will see if the club is a going concern and what plans the major shareholders have (if any) to inject fresh capital into the business. As our major shareholders have NO plans to inject any money into the club, then I expect the Administrator will conclude they are passive and should have no say in any possible bids from third parties to take the club/business forward. A period of notice will be served allowing individuals/consorti ums/businesses to bid for the business. Messrs Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Askham etc will all have the opportunity to put forward their own bids... but I very much doubt they will. It would be a first for any of them to put money into the club. The biggest single factor putting potential investors off Saints, is the attitude of our major shareholders. In adminstration, that obstacle will be out of the way. And you tell me that Administration is a bad thing? over to you....

The truth of the matter is that the potential Investors concept is either a myth or a reality. I just don't believe that there is a small selection of individuals or Organisations waiting in the wings to buy into the Club being put off by Uncle Woopert and the other Shareholders. If you are wealthy enough and interested enough then you simply buy out the shares and move forward in that way. Admisistration removes control from the Club and its Officers and is geared up to satisfying present creditors rather than building a viable future for the Club. I agree 100% with you that the Club is hamstrung because it is controlled by individuals without the intelligence, wit or possibly hard cash to take the Club forward to the next level. I think the reality is that you want to interest potential buyers. You don't do that from being in Administration. You attract buyers by being a good Club with a strong fan base, a good Grouns, a strong team and hovering on the edge of promotion. You see it on the Apprentice and you see it it whn, as a Manager, you make appointmets. The word I've always looked for is 'potential' and the same applies to a Club as to a person. If you were a zillionaire (and you might be) would you rather buy a Club in Admistration or a vibrant Club on the brink of better things. I guess the 2 views are incompatible and yes I do understand that we may never get there with Lowe and Co. but Administration, not my preferred route to the Promised Land. Sorry, I withdraw the comment about barking mad

Biggeration wrote:
Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It\\\'s the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club.

It\\\'s a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on.

Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

Robbie wrote:
Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

David Hooper wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It\\\'s the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It\\\'s a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

Not only is Biggeration a stupid oaf, he would clearly like to see Saints in the Ryman Used Photocopier League (Southern Division - Hampshire). Leeds are in their second year at Div 1, and were always a much bigger club than Saints. I just want to see Saints doing well. The likes of Biggeration want to see them doing badly. Who is the true supporter. (By the way Biggeration misspelt his name!)]

David Hooper wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It\\\'s the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It\\\'s a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

Not only is Biggeration a stupid oaf, he would clearly like to see Saints in the Ryman Used Photocopier League (Southern Division - Hampshire). Leeds are in their second year at Div 1, and were always a much bigger club than Saints. I just want to see Saints doing well. The likes of Biggeration want to see them doing badly. Who is the true supporter. (By the way Biggeration misspelt his name!)]

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

Biggeration wrote:

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote:

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It's the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It's a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

You are barking. Not insane, barking mad. Let's have an intelligent debate PLEASE. You make yourself look so silly. If the Club goes into Administration the only winner (and rarely a big one) is the VAT Man and Her Majesty Stealer of Taxes. Everyone else is completely at the bottom of the pile.

Let's have a debate then. Explain to me what will happen under adminstration. An Adminstrator will be appointed, who will look at the assets of the club against its liabilities and creditors. They will see if the club is a going concern and what plans the major shareholders have (if any) to inject fresh capital into the business. As our major shareholders have NO plans to inject any money into the club, then I expect the Administrator will conclude they are passive and should have no say in any possible bids from third parties to take the club/business forward. A period of notice will be served allowing individuals/consorti ums/businesses to bid for the business. Messrs Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Askham etc will all have the opportunity to put forward their own bids... but I very much doubt they will. It would be a first for any of them to put money into the club. The biggest single factor putting potential investors off Saints, is the attitude of our major shareholders. In adminstration, that obstacle will be out of the way. And you tell me that Administration is a bad thing? over to you....

The truth of the matter is that the potential Investors concept is either a myth or a reality. I just don't believe that there is a small selection of individuals or Organisations waiting in the wings to buy into the Club being put off by Uncle Woopert and the other Shareholders. If you are wealthy enough and interested enough then you simply buy out the shares and move forward in that way. Admisistration removes control from the Club and its Officers and is geared up to satisfying present creditors rather than building a viable future for the Club. I agree 100% with you that the Club is hamstrung because it is controlled by individuals without the intelligence, wit or possibly hard cash to take the Club forward to the next level. I think the reality is that you want to interest potential buyers. You don't do that from being in Administration. You attract buyers by being a good Club with a strong fan base, a good Grouns, a strong team and hovering on the edge of promotion. You see it on the Apprentice and you see it it whn, as a Manager, you make appointmets. The word I've always looked for is 'potential' and the same applies to a Club as to a person. If you were a zillionaire (and you might be) would you rather buy a Club in Admistration or a vibrant Club on the brink of better things. I guess the 2 views are incompatible and yes I do understand that we may never get there with Lowe and Co. but Administration, not my preferred route to the Promised Land. Sorry, I withdraw the comment about barking mad

I don't think we have billionaires waiting in the wings, but I do believe we have investors on a smaller scale who can offer more in the way of financial stability and a clean-slate than Lowe/Wilde etc. Regarding adminstrators being in control instead of the officers of the club... lets be honest, the administrator couldn't do a worse job could he/she !?! The football club would continue as the only way the bank/lenders can get any of their money back for the stadium loan is by having a football club playing at St Mary's. It can't be knocked down for housing or anything else. So they are the major creditor, not the inland revenue, so the future of the football club is very safe IMHO. As the other chap said, with Saints in administration, we are much more attractive and easy to purchase. No one is going to invest right now. Why buy a car today for £10,000 when you have the strong possibility of buying the same car tomorrow for £100? I would honestly take 10 points deduction and relegation along with a new owner over struggling in this division under the current major shareholders.

billy 2 baps wrote:

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

Wow so John is on 19K pw (read somewhere)so not based on facts. John B ask yourself where would we be without John\'s goals last season? Answer Div 1, was paying someone 1 million pounds pa so much, when it kept us in the CCC. How many season tickets would be sold if we were in Div 1. BWP & Dyer wages add up to 18k pw fact. Who would you rather have in your team. Just remember John came as part of the KJ deal, unlike BWP who we paid £750,000 for.

John B wrote:

billy 2 baps wrote:

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

Wow so John is on 19K pw (read somewhere)so not based on facts. John B ask yourself where would we be without John\\\'s goals last season? Answer Div 1, was paying someone 1 million pounds pa so much, when it kept us in the CCC. How many season tickets would be sold if we were in Div 1. BWP & Dyer wages add up to 18k pw fact. Who would you rather have in your team. Just remember John came as part of the KJ deal, unlike BWP who we paid £750,000 for.

Yes I agree with you but will the accountants see it that way? We seem now to be run by the Bank for financial and not footballing reasons. But if as quoted on Saints Forum he is on £19000 per week he must be a candidate for a move away from St Mary\'s. The wage Bill did go up a lot after he can here I think him and Davies should be definately retained but I am not sure about the others

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

LOWE OUT wrote:
GET FCKING LOWE OUT

Graham wrote:

Sailor Sam wrote: I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

Come on Sam, check your local customs. Spitting in the dirt in Turkey shows utmost respect. It means that when someone is mentioned that you respect you ritualistically spit to share your water with them. It applies in a number of very hot Countries. A similar rule applies in this Country. When you support a Club you take every opportunity to rubbish it and sap confidence. Negative energy is considered a really good ploy to help the Club at the start of a new season and whatever the Chairman does must de facto be wrong or to enable him to rob more money from a bankrupt organisation. I noticed you were somewhere on the high seas. is that posh tallk for Portsmouth Harbour? Graham

Costa Baz wrote:

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

John, you said on the Simon Gillet story board that you didn\'t \"love SFC\" yet you are on this board more than any other poster. Why? I asked you yesterday, on the above board, why you came on here \"defending Lowe\" all the time, when you \"don\'t love SFC\"?, but got no answer. Then I realised that I didn\'t need an answer. It is precisely because you \"don\'t love SFC\" that you do come on this board defending Lowe all the time. You and Lowe are two of a kind. You see everything as black and white and don\'t understand what it is like to feel passion for a football club. Let me ask you some other questions though, first one you declined to answer a couple of weeks ago. Do you believe SFC\'s finances would be this bad if we had not been relegated during Lowe\'s previous time as chairman? Why, really, why are you on this board so often if you do not love SFC? Could you be mistaken and actually you DO love the club, or are you, as others suggest, part of Lowe\'s PR team, or are you just an \"agent provocateur\"?

sailor sam wrote:

Graham wrote:

Sailor Sam wrote: I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

Come on Sam, check your local customs. Spitting in the dirt in Turkey shows utmost respect. It means that when someone is mentioned that you respect you ritualistically spit to share your water with them. It applies in a number of very hot Countries. A similar rule applies in this Country. When you support a Club you take every opportunity to rubbish it and sap confidence. Negative energy is considered a really good ploy to help the Club at the start of a new season and whatever the Chairman does must de facto be wrong or to enable him to rob more money from a bankrupt organisation. I noticed you were somewhere on the high seas. is that posh tallk for Portsmouth Harbour? Graham

Come on Graham, wise up! Someone with no imagination, has used my name because they cannot think of one of their own. I have been out until just over an hour ago, and it certainly was not Turkey, a country I never visited when in the Med. On the Dodd & Gorman release. I am surprised that they have been with the club for so long, and thought they would have left when Pearson took over. It is not often that 'temporary managers' stay with the club when a new, permanent appointment is made - Steve Claridge at Pompey being a recent example.

John B wrote:

sailor sam wrote:

Graham wrote:

Sailor Sam wrote: I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

Come on Sam, check your local customs. Spitting in the dirt in Turkey shows utmost respect. It means that when someone is mentioned that you respect you ritualistically spit to share your water with them. It applies in a number of very hot Countries. A similar rule applies in this Country. When you support a Club you take every opportunity to rubbish it and sap confidence. Negative energy is considered a really good ploy to help the Club at the start of a new season and whatever the Chairman does must de facto be wrong or to enable him to rob more money from a bankrupt organisation. I noticed you were somewhere on the high seas. is that posh tallk for Portsmouth Harbour? Graham

Come on Graham, wise up! Someone with no imagination, has used my name because they cannot think of one of their own. I have been out until just over an hour ago, and it certainly was not Turkey, a country I never visited when in the Med. On the Dodd & Gorman release. I am surprised that they have been with the club for so long, and thought they would have left when Pearson took over. It is not often that 'temporary managers' stay with the club when a new, permanent appointment is made - Steve Claridge at Pompey being a recent example.

I knew it was not you Sailor Sam you are much to sensible

The administrators have only one goal - do their best to ensure the debts are paid.

First task, sell players. They will not care about the ability of the club to field teams now or in the future.
See what happenned at Gretna. If they couldn't sell, all but the lowest earners were released.

Next task - fixed assets.
Training ground. Sell cheap now without planning permission and let the builder sort that and make millions as the administrators don't have time to wait around before debts are to be paid.

Next, the stadium. As we still haven't got any multimillion pound bids, just a line of chancers all holding out a pound coin, the stadium will be split out and sold to an 'investor' (in the real sense of the word) who will lease it back for a large profit to whatever is left of the club, or knock it down for flats if the club default. See Cardiff, Palace and many more for examples of this.

Now, what is left, as we've paid off the debts, is the 'Club', or rather the Saints brand!. So let's see those pound coins then...

Oh, and by the way, you are purchasing a club with no stadium, no players, no training ground. Hope you have a spare £100m behind you as buying the land and building back up what was sold on the cheap will be very expensive.

Ben Durutti wrote:
Stern John on 19k a week? I doubt that as we weren't even paying those sort of wages when we were in the Prem. When BWP & Dyer were first arrested, press said they were on 8 & 6k per week respectively. can't believe we would be paying Stern over twice as much as BWP. By the way, I would like to see Stern John stay.

ITK wrote:
Stern John is not on 19k a week, more like 9k Jermaine Wright is on 43k a day.

John B wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

John, you said on the Simon Gillet story board that you didn\\\'t \\\"love SFC\\\" yet you are on this board more than any other poster. Why? I asked you yesterday, on the above board, why you came on here \\\"defending Lowe\\\" all the time, when you \\\"don\\\'t love SFC\\\"?, but got no answer. Then I realised that I didn\\\'t need an answer. It is precisely because you \\\"don\\\'t love SFC\\\" that you do come on this board defending Lowe all the time. You and Lowe are two of a kind. You see everything as black and white and don\\\'t understand what it is like to feel passion for a football club. Let me ask you some other questions though, first one you declined to answer a couple of weeks ago. Do you believe SFC\\\'s finances would be this bad if we had not been relegated during Lowe\\\'s previous time as chairman? Why, really, why are you on this board so often if you do not love SFC? Could you be mistaken and actually you DO love the club, or are you, as others suggest, part of Lowe\\\'s PR team, or are you just an \\\"agent provocateur\\\"?

I run a business selling on the Internet and it is very quiet today. Went up to Richmond yesterday to watch the Cricket so did not look at the board. Of course I do not love SFC I take a strong Interest in them as well as Hampshire CC. Most clubs who have been in the Premiership for sometime and are relegated have major financial problems. From the Branfoot days I always assumed that one day SFC would be relegated so I do not Blame Mr Lowe for that. I do not support Mr Lowe but I do support SFC which is run by Mr Lowe and the board. I would have thought that if Fans did not support the club fully the club would not be successful which I think is where we are now. Whingeing and finding fault in every decision is in my opinion not helping the situation and I feel that a number of fans want the club to fail to get rid of Mr. Lowe but I don’t want that I want the club to succeed. Success next season I feel would be a top ten finish but I feel promotion is out of the question as the team is not good enough (that is even if nobody left). I also do not like the negative comments towards the new coaching staff and new players who should be encouraged as they must see something good about SFC otherwise they would not be here.

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

Saint wrote:

John B wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

John, you said on the Simon Gillet story board that you didn\\\'t \\\"love SFC\\\" yet you are on this board more than any other poster. Why? I asked you yesterday, on the above board, why you came on here \\\"defending Lowe\\\" all the time, when you \\\"don\\\'t love SFC\\\"?, but got no answer. Then I realised that I didn\\\'t need an answer. It is precisely because you \\\"don\\\'t love SFC\\\" that you do come on this board defending Lowe all the time. You and Lowe are two of a kind. You see everything as black and white and don\\\'t understand what it is like to feel passion for a football club. Let me ask you some other questions though, first one you declined to answer a couple of weeks ago. Do you believe SFC\\\'s finances would be this bad if we had not been relegated during Lowe\\\'s previous time as chairman? Why, really, why are you on this board so often if you do not love SFC? Could you be mistaken and actually you DO love the club, or are you, as others suggest, part of Lowe\\\'s PR team, or are you just an \\\"agent provocateur\\\"?

I run a business selling on the Internet and it is very quiet today. Went up to Richmond yesterday to watch the Cricket so did not look at the board. Of course I do not love SFC I take a strong Interest in them as well as Hampshire CC. Most clubs who have been in the Premiership for sometime and are relegated have major financial problems. From the Branfoot days I always assumed that one day SFC would be relegated so I do not Blame Mr Lowe for that. I do not support Mr Lowe but I do support SFC which is run by Mr Lowe and the board. I would have thought that if Fans did not support the club fully the club would not be successful which I think is where we are now. Whingeing and finding fault in every decision is in my opinion not helping the situation and I feel that a number of fans want the club to fail to get rid of Mr. Lowe but I don’t want that I want the club to succeed. Success next season I feel would be a top ten finish but I feel promotion is out of the question as the team is not good enough (that is even if nobody left). I also do not like the negative comments towards the new coaching staff and new players who should be encouraged as they must see something good about SFC otherwise they would not be here.

Not really answering the question are you. I agree with Costa Baz and his summarization of you. You are making a name for yourself, and I am feeling this has been your goal all the time. At least you stopped using the tiresome this time.

John B wrote:

Jesus_02 wrote:

John B wrote: I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

Who do you think you are? Wishing people the best and thanking \"Mr Dodd\" as if you are an authoruty and spokes person for Saints Unbelievable!

How very rude mind your own business have nt you got anything better to do than cause arguments What is it got to do with you how I post . Just a bit of common courtesy Mr Dodd was an excellent captain but not such an excellent coach

Ticket Tout wrote:
I've heard that Season Ticket sales number around 9,000. About 4,000 down on last season. Which is why the club refuses to comment on it.

John B wrote:

Saint wrote:

John B wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:

John B wrote:

Robbie wrote: Most people on here want to see Saints do well, but the question is how to achieve it. Biggeration wants to see administration, because he sees it as the only way to get rid of a chairman that he sees as detrimental to the progress of the club. When gangrene sets in, sometimes you have to hack off the limb....

How can we go into administration if Lowe is in charge and trying to get the club financial stable with the help of the Bank. I just cannot see it happening in the immediate future but I can see us losing big wage players like Skacel John Euell Rasiak etc Saw somewher Stern John on 19k per week how many season ticket holders do we need to cover his wages?

John, you said on the Simon Gillet story board that you didn\\\'t \\\"love SFC\\\" yet you are on this board more than any other poster. Why? I asked you yesterday, on the above board, why you came on here \\\"defending Lowe\\\" all the time, when you \\\"don\\\'t love SFC\\\"?, but got no answer. Then I realised that I didn\\\'t need an answer. It is precisely because you \\\"don\\\'t love SFC\\\" that you do come on this board defending Lowe all the time. You and Lowe are two of a kind. You see everything as black and white and don\\\'t understand what it is like to feel passion for a football club. Let me ask you some other questions though, first one you declined to answer a couple of weeks ago. Do you believe SFC\\\'s finances would be this bad if we had not been relegated during Lowe\\\'s previous time as chairman? Why, really, why are you on this board so often if you do not love SFC? Could you be mistaken and actually you DO love the club, or are you, as others suggest, part of Lowe\\\'s PR team, or are you just an \\\"agent provocateur\\\"?

I run a business selling on the Internet and it is very quiet today. Went up to Richmond yesterday to watch the Cricket so did not look at the board. Of course I do not love SFC I take a strong Interest in them as well as Hampshire CC. Most clubs who have been in the Premiership for sometime and are relegated have major financial problems. From the Branfoot days I always assumed that one day SFC would be relegated so I do not Blame Mr Lowe for that. I do not support Mr Lowe but I do support SFC which is run by Mr Lowe and the board. I would have thought that if Fans did not support the club fully the club would not be successful which I think is where we are now. Whingeing and finding fault in every decision is in my opinion not helping the situation and I feel that a number of fans want the club to fail to get rid of Mr. Lowe but I don’t want that I want the club to succeed. Success next season I feel would be a top ten finish but I feel promotion is out of the question as the team is not good enough (that is even if nobody left). I also do not like the negative comments towards the new coaching staff and new players who should be encouraged as they must see something good about SFC otherwise they would not be here.

Not really answering the question are you. I agree with Costa Baz and his summarization of you. You are making a name for yourself, and I am feeling this has been your goal all the time. At least you stopped using the tiresome this time.

I probably will not reply to any more of your inane posts because you really are a tiresome individual. I am only trying to my reasoned views across and you are being rather unpleasant.

Biggeration wrote:

John B wrote:

sailor sam wrote:

Graham wrote:

Sailor Sam wrote: I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

Come on Sam, check your local customs. Spitting in the dirt in Turkey shows utmost respect. It means that when someone is mentioned that you respect you ritualistically spit to share your water with them. It applies in a number of very hot Countries. A similar rule applies in this Country. When you support a Club you take every opportunity to rubbish it and sap confidence. Negative energy is considered a really good ploy to help the Club at the start of a new season and whatever the Chairman does must de facto be wrong or to enable him to rob more money from a bankrupt organisation. I noticed you were somewhere on the high seas. is that posh tallk for Portsmouth Harbour? Graham

Come on Graham, wise up! Someone with no imagination, has used my name because they cannot think of one of their own. I have been out until just over an hour ago, and it certainly was not Turkey, a country I never visited when in the Med. On the Dodd & Gorman release. I am surprised that they have been with the club for so long, and thought they would have left when Pearson took over. It is not often that 'temporary managers' stay with the club when a new, permanent appointment is made - Steve Claridge at Pompey being a recent example.

I knew it was not you Sailor Sam you are much to sensible

The administrators have only one goal - do their best to ensure the debts are paid. First task, sell players. They will not care about the ability of the club to field teams now or in the future. See what happenned at Gretna. If they couldn't sell, all but the lowest earners were released. Next task - fixed assets. Training ground. Sell cheap now without planning permission and let the builder sort that and make millions as the administrators don't have time to wait around before debts are to be paid. Next, the stadium. As we still haven't got any multimillion pound bids, just a line of chancers all holding out a pound coin, the stadium will be split out and sold to an 'investor' (in the real sense of the word) who will lease it back for a large profit to whatever is left of the club, or knock it down for flats if the club default. See Cardiff, Palace and many more for examples of this. Now, what is left, as we've paid off the debts, is the 'Club', or rather the Saints brand!. So let's see those pound coins then... Oh, and by the way, you are purchasing a club with no stadium, no players, no training ground. Hope you have a spare £100m behind you as buying the land and building back up what was sold on the cheap will be very expensive.

Not quite right, an administrator has a duty to keep the business going and find new capital to ensure some debts are repaid. All debts are never repaid, often it can only be 1p or 10p in the pound. Sell players, yes, that will happen, but Saints have always sold our best players anyway, so what's different? I doubt there would be many takers for Staplewood as it can't be turned into housing. Jackson's farm land is more attractive and is doing nothing for the club, so no pain to us if it is sold. There is no chance of St Mary's being knocked down. It's planning permission states that it's a brownfield development for sporting use only. With the housing downturn, who would want to build flats next to Gasometers and cement works when they can't even sell flats at Ocean Village? The stadium is safe, the only way to repay the loan is for the club to carry on playing there. So your picture of doom is over the top. Businesses and football clubs go in and out of administration all the time and in most cases, football clubs come out better than they went in.

Mark R wrote:
Well where is Poortvliet?

sailor sam wrote:

Graham wrote:

Sailor Sam wrote: I was in the back of beyond in Turkey last week and got chatting to some locals. "Where you from?" they asked. "Southampton" I replied to which there were lots of comments of good football team. One bright lad looked up and said "No more. No more" Then he looked at me and said "Meester Lowe." and gobbed in the dirt. It would appear that our notorious chairman is as liked by Turkish football fans as he is by Saints fans. Other of course than the forelock tugging docile quislings who are paid to post supportive comments on sites like this. They will all have to eat their grovelling words by Christmas.

Come on Sam, check your local customs. Spitting in the dirt in Turkey shows utmost respect. It means that when someone is mentioned that you respect you ritualistically spit to share your water with them. It applies in a number of very hot Countries. A similar rule applies in this Country. When you support a Club you take every opportunity to rubbish it and sap confidence. Negative energy is considered a really good ploy to help the Club at the start of a new season and whatever the Chairman does must de facto be wrong or to enable him to rob more money from a bankrupt organisation. I noticed you were somewhere on the high seas. is that posh tallk for Portsmouth Harbour? Graham

Come on Graham, wise up! Someone with no imagination, has used my name because they cannot think of one of their own. I have been out until just over an hour ago, and it certainly was not Turkey, a country I never visited when in the Med. On the Dodd & Gorman release. I am surprised that they have been with the club for so long, and thought they would have left when Pearson took over. It is not often that 'temporary managers' stay with the club when a new, permanent appointment is made - Steve Claridge at Pompey being a recent example.

Gold-Member wrote:
Jan Poortvliet is maandag zoals verwacht niet op de eerste training van Helmond Sport verschenen. De eerste training van de Brabantse eerstedivisionist werd daarom geleid door Jürgen Streppel en Mario Verlijsdonk. Poortvliet wil aan de bij de Engelse club Southampton, maar de leiding van Helmond Sport laat hem niet vertrekken. De arbitragezaak van de hoofdtrainer, die onlangs akkoord ging met een nieuw contract, tegen de Helmondse club dient woensdagavond. Het was vrij onwaarschijnlijk dat Poortvliet zich zou melden voor de eerste training ter voorbereiding op het nieuwe seizoen. De oud-international kwam dit weekeinde ook niet opdagen bij de voorbespreking van de technische staf. Volgens Omroep Brabant is Streppel de belangrijkste kandidaat om Poortvliet eventueel op te volgen."

Biggeration wrote:

Graham wrote:

Biggeration wrote: Adminstration is the best possible outcome for this club in the short and long term. It\\\'s the only way to get shot of our major shareholders who contribute NOTHING to this club. It\\\'s a myth the club will cease to be. No other clubs have completely shut down in decades. The likes of Leeds and Bournemouth and Rotherham are all in bigger mess than Saints, but are still going on. Adminstration is the only way to save our club from those who only want to take money out of it.

You are barking. Not insane, barking mad. Let\\\'s have an intelligent debate PLEASE. You make yourself look so silly. If the Club goes into Administration the only winner (and rarely a big one) is the VAT Man and Her Majesty Stealer of Taxes. Everyone else is completely at the bottom of the pile.

Let\\\'s have a debate then. Explain to me what will happen under adminstration. An Adminstrator will be appointed, who will look at the assets of the club against its liabilities and creditors. They will see if the club is a going concern and what plans the major shareholders have (if any) to inject fresh capital into the business. As our major shareholders have NO plans to inject any money into the club, then I expect the Administrator will conclude they are passive and should have no say in any possible bids from third parties to take the club/business forward. A period of notice will be served allowing individuals/consorti ums/businesses to bid for the business. Messrs Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Askham etc will all have the opportunity to put forward their own bids... but I very much doubt they will. It would be a first for any of them to put money into the club. The biggest single factor putting potential investors off Saints, is the attitude of our major shareholders. In adminstration, that obstacle will be out of the way. And you tell me that Administration is a bad thing? over to you....

Gorman's Tache wrote:
"Our financial situation blah blah blah" Can't be that bad if Lowe & Cowen are drawing a healthy wage and giving out freebies to their old boardroom friends. Good luck Doddsy.

Tracey wrote:

Gorman's Tache wrote: "Our financial situation blah blah blah" Can't be that bad if Lowe & Cowen are drawing a healthy wage and giving out freebies to their old boardroom friends. Good luck Doddsy.

So how much are the board getting paid then?

Scott wrote:
When will Lowe and Wilde come clean about the salaries they are taking from our club? They were quick enough to replace Leon Crouch who didn't draw a wage!! Come on you spineless pair try and stand up and be men!!

the totton scrutineer wrote:

Tracey wrote:

Gorman's Tache wrote: "Our financial situation blah blah blah" Can't be that bad if Lowe & Cowen are drawing a healthy wage and giving out freebies to their old boardroom friends. Good luck Doddsy.

So how much are the board getting paid then?

Who cares how much there being paid the unanswered question is are they value for money.What actually does Wilde do?He knows nothing about football and yet is a football director DO WE NEED HIM?

Martin Wild wrote:
I don't know why but I fill a bit uneasy about what is happening at St Marys, I just hope that I am wrong !

John B wrote:
I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

Robbie wrote:
bold]I see the moaning brigade are out in force Even the most Pro-Lowe supporter (and I believe everyone is entitled to an opinion, regardless of whether or not it agrees with mine. Just don't put me down because I have an opinion of my own ) must admit that the club is not being run well at the moment. The farce with the head coaches contract/ pre contract (the Official Website initially reported that he had signed a 1 year rolling contract) is dragging on, and fans have a right to be disgruntled if they see the board acting in what appears to be an unprofessional manner. This is a board that is paid an awful lot of money to get it right, but couldn't get their first job right. Regardless of whether Lowe & Wilde ever wanted Pearson, when they decided to get rid of him, they should have got the first major job right. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PAID FOR!!!!! Unfortunately, they've turned the whole thing into a circus. And don't say it's normal practice to do what the club did, it makes you look silly. The spin on the Holmes signing was incredible. I wish him well (and Wotton, and Perry) but the hype around him, set up by the club, makes these 3 out to be the most sought after footballers in England. I'll wait to see how they perform on the pitch, but I,like others,won't be giving them too long. This season is going to be hard for everyone, and a slow, sluggish start is going to hinder any chance of survival (Looking at the way the club is going, survival should be the aim, but this should be as much about performances on the pitch as making financial cutbacks)If the 'total football' idea works, then that's great. Good football, and good results will bring in the fans. If it doesn't, how long are you going to give it before you start to voice concern? The season is only 46 games long . You can't even afford to give it that.

St. Ray wrote:

Ticket Tout wrote: I\'ve heard that Season Ticket sales number around 9,000. About 4,000 down on last season. Which is why the club refuses to comment on it.

If the club will not comment on the number of season tickets sold to date how has a plonker like you come up with a figure of 9000. Plucked from thin air as with so many of the comments posted regarding the Saints on this site.

P Head wrote:
Pubs in Soton are quite on Saturday afternoons- where are all those so called fans now, fair weather fans. I admire you lads and lasses that have stood by your team.

Saint Elsewhere wrote:

John B wrote: I see the moaning brigade are out in force. I would like to wish the new coaching staff Welcome to SFC and best wishes for the future. I would also like thank Mr Dodd and Mr Gorman for their recent contributions but agree they have no future with SFC and had to go

John, who are the new coaching staff? And Mr Dodd was always referred to as Jason or Doddsy by the way, certainly by fans. Are you, or were you ever a fan? (Mr)Jan Poortvliet is, as I far as I am aware, still under contract to Helmond, and he was supposed to pick up the coaching or managerial reins today. Comments? By the way John, I am not a moaner.