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Police called to bridal shop
1:59pm Wednesday 25th June 2008
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POLICE were called today amid chaotic scenes at a wedding dress shop that has closed without warning.
Uniformed officers were at the Arvella shop in Lyndhurst after what appeared to be an attempted break-in.
A panel that had been used to board up a window at the back of the shop had been removed and a step ladder had been left at the scene when police arrived, prompted by a burglar alarm being triggered at the shop.
The alarm went off around 1.30pm today at the shop which closed yesterday without explanation.
Police arrived at the High Street store after the back window appeared to have been forced open.
Officers said it was unclear whether anything was stolen or if anyone got into the building.
Police are not carrying out any further investigations into the incident as no complaint has been made.
A succession of tearful, brides, worried fiancées and angry parents had been arriving at the shop throughout the day after news of the closure.
Many have paid thousands of pounds and have had their dresses fitted for their big days this summer, some just weeks away.
It is the second Hampshire bridal boutique has abruptly closed its doors leaving dozens of brides-to-be without their dream frocks and out of pocket.
They have tried ringing and emailing the shop, but to no avail. No explanation has been posted on the shop window.
Many now face a race against time to find out if they can get their dresses back or if they will be forced to start shopping for a new outfit.
The Daily Echo has been inundated with customers who placed their orders - and paid in full - for their dresses from as early as before Christmas.
Devastated Joanne Wray, 31, a sales executive from Copy-thorne, is due to tie the knot with fiance Lloyd Davage on September 6 and has paid £1,000 for her perfect dress.
She said: "I ordered it in February. They told me it would be in the shop in the first week of June. Every time I called to see they told me they would call me later and never did, or that they were busy stocktaking.
"I decided to come to the shop during my lunchbreak and saw that it was closed. It has been a nightmare."
Throughout yesterday people who have purchased items from the shop congregated outside its prime town centre location as news spread of its closure.
The Daily Echo yesterday called and emailed the shop but there was no reply from the manageress Lisa Clarkson.
The Daily Echo also left a message with Mrs Clarkson's mother, Pauline Rod, who is understood to deal with the company's accounts, but this was not returned either.
A message at the company's other branch, in Bradford-on-Avon, Wiltshire, which was open for business yesterday morning, was also not returned.
Arvella Bridal was set up in March 2006. It was known as Blackburn Steel Bride Ltd and Tulip Bridal Ltd before becoming Arvella.
According to Companies House, which lists all current businesses, Arvella has never filed any accounts and missed its January deadline to submit its accounts and its April deadline to submit its returns.
The limited company moved into the High Street about 18 months ago on a standard commercial lease.
Kevin Stratford, of Lyndhurst estate agent Stratford and Stratford, which let the property, said: "It is a shock to us. We have heard nothing from our tenants."
Wedding dress designers have also been picking up the pieces.
Manchester-based Charlotte Balbier said she would not charge extra for working to a tight deadline to get dresses finished for affected brides-to-be.
"I have spoken to 13 brides who have contacted me about their dresses. We have been able to help every girl," she said.
Commenting on the shop's closure, Miss Balbier said it was "a big mess" and claimed she was owed thousands of pounds.
Your Say YourDaily Echo
Beth Collier, Southampton says...
9:27am Wed 25 Jun 08
I went into the shop this Saturday and bought a veil and some shoes and they took my money!
Luckily I have managed to loacate my dress with my supplier and they told me this morning that it has been in the UK since March but they couldn't send it to Arvella until they paid their overdue invoices!
Katherine Bell, Southampton says...
9:45am Wed 25 Jun 08
Vicar, Dibley says...
9:48am Wed 25 Jun 08
Eddie, Southampton says...
10:03am Wed 25 Jun 08
Martin, Bournemouth says...
10:57am Wed 25 Jun 08
Leanne, says...
11:05am Wed 25 Jun 08
GMTV, London says...
11:07am Wed 25 Jun 08
Free wedding dress....
Martin, Bournemouth says...
11:08am Wed 25 Jun 08
Rachel Emm, Lyndhurst says...
11:15am Wed 25 Jun 08
Amanda Davies, New Forest says...
11:15am Wed 25 Jun 08
Andy, Kent says...
11:37am Wed 25 Jun 08
Her dress was a Pronovias design, the main dealer abroad have been excellent and have placed me in contact with another shop in Hampshire who have taken on any outstanding Pronovias orders. Unfortunatly, ours was delivered, so it looks like we have lost it now. I feel like going to the shop, gaining entry and getting her dress!
Hayley, Isle of Wight says...
11:41am Wed 25 Jun 08
I have continually tried to contact her with messages left almost everyday over the last two weeks with no reply.
When I heard the news this morning I contacted Charlotte Balbier who thankfully had my dress made although it had not been requested I am now having it sent directly to me although I have had to pay the full amount again!!!! As arvella bridal had not paid Charlotte Balbier!
Hopefully I can claim it back either through Barclay Card or off my wedding insurance!
Cynic, Southampton says...
11:50am Wed 25 Jun 08
Naomi Long, Eastleigh says...
11:53am Wed 25 Jun 08
Lowe and behold, St Marys hotseat says...
12:25pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Think about it in the long run it will be much cheaper.
Kelley Evans, Southampton says...
12:29pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Gemma, Verwood says...
12:33pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Julie, Wiltshire says...
12:52pm Wed 25 Jun 08
I hope you all manage to sort yourselves out.
Martin, Bournemouth says...
1:08pm Wed 25 Jun 08
For all those in the same situation.. I have been advised to issue a letter to Arvella's (for the administrators to pick up) asking for my money back and claiming breach of contract as the credit card company might need this before they issue a refund.
hmm, says...
1:11pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Kelly, Chandlers Ford says...
1:13pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Emily Cooper, London says...
1:22pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Alice, Hythe says...
1:23pm Wed 25 Jun 08
ME, Southampton says...
1:43pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Cant belive these fraudsters have done this to these poor people! This is one of the most stressful times for people! I hope they get found and fined or something! Im engaged but no plans to marry just yet (saving up for a house; when the prices 'eventually' go down abit), i think im just gonna buy mine of e-bay, it seems alot more reliable! Good luck to those that ordered dresses, i hope you find them/get them replaced and have a lovely day! :-)
I wouldn't advise buying a house on ebay, you might want to have a good look around first. Also it might not be in a nice area?
I think she meant the dress!!!
Ann Davies, North Wales says...
1:57pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Mark, soton says...
2:01pm Wed 25 Jun 08
it could be worse, a hospital could have closed.
hmm, says...
2:02pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Mark wrote:exactly
poo happens!
it could be worse, a hospital could have closed.
gorf, soton says...
2:21pm Wed 25 Jun 08
A succession of tearful, brides, worried fiancées and angry parents had been arriving at the High Street shop throughout the day after news of the closure.
what for???
ITS CLOSED!!!!
hmm, says...
2:23pm Wed 25 Jun 08
gorf wrote:Its a worry is it not
A succession of tearful, brides, worried fiancées and angry parents had been arriving at the High Street shop throughout the day after news of the closure.
what for???
ITS CLOSED!!!!
Angela, Bitterne says...
2:28pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Anita, Southampton says...
2:29pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Katharine Sturge, Calne, Wiltshire says...
2:29pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Dee, pompey says...
2:30pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Angela wrote:Read the terms of use and I haven't broken them. Still nobodies died.....
To those of you who have nothing good to say - have you not got anything better to do with you time? Stay off this site or read the terms of use about treating people with respect. For some of us it is an absolute nightmare, never mind whether or not someone has died. Read the terms of use!
Miss Pelling, Hanging Gardens of Babylon says...
3:12pm Wed 25 Jun 08
hmm wrote:The only thing I would be worried about is the succession of tearful brides and worried FIANCEES ....?! Erm... do I read from this that the dresses were intended for men?
gorf wrote:Its a worry is it notA succession of tearful, brides, worried fiancées and angry parents had been arriving at the High Street shop throughout the day after news of the closure.what for??? ITS CLOSED!!!!
Mark, soton says...
3:18pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Dee wrote:I feel sorry for the brides, I really do. After all, they have used up so much time and money on their 'ego' needs; it will surely be very upsetting.
Angela wrote: To those of you who have nothing good to say - have you not got anything better to do with you time? Stay off this site or read the terms of use about treating people with respect. For some of us it is an absolute nightmare, never mind whether or not someone has died. Read the terms of use!Read the terms of use and I haven't broken them. Still nobodies died.....
I wonder if a police investigation will be launched next time a butcher closes without warning.
I think we should all take stock of how fortunate we are in the UK, and give a thought to those who have to worry about finding cleaning drinking water, food and basic necessities of life.
Andy T, Romsey says...
3:23pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Mark wrote:I think we should all take stock of how fortunate we are in the UK, and give a thought to those who have to worry about finding cleaning drinking water, food and basic necessities of life.
Dee wrote:I feel sorry for the brides, I really do. After all, they have used up so much time and money on their 'ego' needs; it will surely be very upsetting.
Angela wrote: To those of you who have nothing good to say - have you not got anything better to do with you time? Stay off this site or read the terms of use about treating people with respect. For some of us it is an absolute nightmare, never mind whether or not someone has died. Read the terms of use!Read the terms of use and I haven't broken them. Still nobodies died.....
I wonder if a police investigation will be launched next time a butcher closes without warning.
I think we should all take stock of how fortunate we are in the UK, and give a thought to those who have to worry about finding cleaning drinking water, food and basic necessities of life.
Sounds like life in Shirley.
Darwin, says...
3:25pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Mark, soton on 3:18pm today
Dee wrote:I feel sorry for the brides, I really do. After all, they have used up so much time and money on their 'ego' needs; it will surely be very upsetting. I wonder if a police investigation will be launched next time a butcher closes without warning. I think we should all take stock of how fortunate we are in the UK, and give a thought to those who have to worry about finding cleaning drinking water, food and basic necessities of life.Angela wrote: To those of you who have nothing good to say - have you not got anything better to do with you time? Stay off this site or read the terms of use about treating people with respect. For some of us it is an absolute nightmare, never mind whether or not someone has died. Read the terms of use!Read the terms of use and I haven't broken them. Still nobodies died.....
Why should we worry about others clean drinking water?
The truth is, evoulution lets some live and some die. You can play god all you want Mark, but you are just an insignificant part of life.
Mark, soton says...
3:25pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Andy T wrote:or Millbrook I guess
Mark wrote:I think we should all take stock of how fortunate we are in the UK, and give a thought to those who have to worry about finding cleaning drinking water, food and basic necessities of life. Sounds like life in Shirley.Dee wrote:I feel sorry for the brides, I really do. After all, they have used up so much time and money on their 'ego' needs; it will surely be very upsetting. I wonder if a police investigation will be launched next time a butcher closes without warning. I think we should all take stock of how fortunate we are in the UK, and give a thought to those who have to worry about finding cleaning drinking water, food and basic necessities of life.Angela wrote: To those of you who have nothing good to say - have you not got anything better to do with you time? Stay off this site or read the terms of use about treating people with respect. For some of us it is an absolute nightmare, never mind whether or not someone has died. Read the terms of use!Read the terms of use and I haven't broken them. Still nobodies died.....
Mark, soton says...
3:28pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Darwin wrote:If I could play God, I'd start with Millbrook and Lordshill.
Mark, soton on 3:18pm todayWhy should we worry about others clean drinking water? The truth is, evoulution lets some live and some die. You can play god all you want Mark, but you are just an insignificant part of life.Dee wrote:I feel sorry for the brides, I really do. After all, they have used up so much time and money on their 'ego' needs; it will surely be very upsetting. I wonder if a police investigation will be launched next time a butcher closes without warning. I think we should all take stock of how fortunate we are in the UK, and give a thought to those who have to worry about finding cleaning drinking water, food and basic necessities of life.Angela wrote: To those of you who have nothing good to say - have you not got anything better to do with you time? Stay off this site or read the terms of use about treating people with respect. For some of us it is an absolute nightmare, never mind whether or not someone has died. Read the terms of use!Read the terms of use and I haven't broken them. Still nobodies died.....
You are right Darwin, we are all just insignificant parts of life. So why make such a song and dance about a shop closure.
A mexican bandit, says...
3:31pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Angela wrote:But Angela, don't you know there are starving children in Africa that don't even have wedding dresses? Anyways, who are you to question how other people spend their time? There's nothing disrespectful about opining that wedding dresses may not be particularly newsworthy. I expect you to agree that they're not, but you have to accept that it's a worthwhile and valid opinion nonetheless. Unless your definition of "worthwhile" is "anything I personally believe, and nothing else"
To those of you who have nothing good to say - have you not got anything better to do with you time? Stay off this site or read the terms of use about treating people with respect. For some of us it is an absolute nightmare, never mind whether or not someone has died. Read the terms of use!
common sense, southampton says...
3:31pm Wed 25 Jun 08
why dont these brides just laugh it all off & have a theme wedding, ie cowboys & indians,
or cave men & cave women,
or fancy dress.
or go to the fancy dress shop & rent a brides dress , they got loads of them there .
lifes about having fun on your wedding day , not tears.
Darwin, says...
3:33pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Mark, soton says...
3:34pm Wed 25 Jun 08
common sense wrote:or go to Debenhams, or even Asda, and buy one off the shelf.
not the end of the world is it ? why dont these brides just laugh it all off & have a theme wedding, ie cowboys & indians, or cave men & cave women, or fancy dress. or go to the fancy dress shop & rent a brides dress , they got loads of them there . lifes about having fun on your wedding day , not tears.
mr pi55ed off, southampton says...
3:40pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Mark, soton says...
3:41pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Darwin wrote:my point exactly
Because with all respect Mark, they are insignificant!
A mexican bandit, says...
3:44pm Wed 25 Jun 08
mr pi55ed off wrote:Yep, anyone that might not share your own morals and values simply must be either a child, or a scrounger. Bang up logic there. It couldn't just be that not everyone is an identikit clone of you, could it? It couldn't just be that some people have more of a sense of humour than you, could it?
From the quality of replies you can tell that school has just kicked out or it isn't giro day at the dss - keep it on topic please!
Godwin, says...
3:46pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Darwin wrote:But sill significant enough to make a song and dance about, eh
Because with all respect Mark, they are insignificant!
Bride 2 Be, Hampshire says...
4:05pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jenn, soton says...
4:23pm Wed 25 Jun 08
All they were doing was trying to sort out peoples weddings and working their butts off to make everyone happy.
I bought my dress in there and am very happy and cannot say a bad word about them..
However if I had been threatened, screamed at, made cry pretty much every day then I would have closed it too....
Sahira Latif, Southampton says...
4:29pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Ed Case, Botley says...
4:31pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jenn wrote:Why don't you make this into a DRAMA?
Because some jerk called a supplier to find out where his dress was who then spread the word that it wasn't here, although it would have been there on time....he then got a bunch of people together who tried to ram the doors down....the girls in the shops have been threatened beyond belief, pinned up against the wall by grown men...
All they were doing was trying to sort out peoples weddings and working their butts off to make everyone happy.
I bought my dress in there and am very happy and cannot say a bad word about them..
However if I had been threatened, screamed at, made cry pretty much every day then I would have closed it too....
You could even call it BRIDES SHOP REVISITED
Mark, soton says...
4:37pm Wed 25 Jun 08
surely the time would be better spend investigating crime. (yes yes i know fraud is crime etc etc - but you get the point)
John, sals says...
4:41pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Mark wrote:It's an investigation into the attempted break-in not the closer.
I\\\'m still amazed that the police are launching and investigation into a shop closure.
surely the time would be better spend investigating crime. (yes yes i know fraud is crime etc etc - but you get the point)
Anxious, Northam says...
4:44pm Wed 25 Jun 08
have you got her address
or have you got her a dress?
HH, says...
4:45pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Old bride, Earth says...
4:57pm Wed 25 Jun 08
jo hicks, Hythe says...
5:02pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Sonia, Bournemouth says...
5:09pm Wed 25 Jun 08
I am getting my dress from Butterfly Brides in Poundbury, Dorchester and Sarah (the owner) was so friendly and fantastic. I am sure she would help if she could.
Emma, Kent says...
5:11pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jo Hicks, Hythe says...
5:12pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Toe jam, says...
5:25pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Martin, Bournemouth on 5:16pm today
And to all of you who have been posting stupid comments about "it not being the end of the world", "starving kids in Africa are far more important" etc etc.. well on a Worldly scale then yes, you are probably right but to the people this affects then it is VERY important. This company have been shafting thousands of pounds of people's money. I'm sure if it happened to you then it would be a different story. If you have no interest in the story or the people it concerns then why bother commenting???
Maybe because when some idiot tries to get a bunch of people together to go round a womans house, It's everybodys problem.
Unless of course, we can only post if we are against them???
A mexican bandit, says...
5:26pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Martin wrote:We'll comment wherever we see fit, thanks. No doubt it's very distressing for those affected, but does that alone make it newsworthy? I'm not convinced
And to all of you who have been posting stupid comments about "it not being the end of the world", "starving kids in Africa are far more important" etc etc.. well on a Worldly scale then yes, you are probably right but to the people this affects then it is VERY important.
This company have been shafting thousands of pounds of people's money. I'm sure if it happened to you then it would be a different story.
If you have no interest in the story or the people it concerns then why bother commenting???
Oh, and just because you don't like or agree with something, doesn't render it "stupid"
Fran, says...
5:35pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Steve and Zoe - Ashurst, Ashurst says...
5:52pm Wed 25 Jun 08
The gist of his statement was that "Lisa is doing everything she can to sort things out and will be contacting brides in the next couple of days to deliver dresses that she has in her posession". Apparently she took all the dresses that had been delivered to the shop for brides.
I do not want to raise people's hopes because Arvella have consistently lied to their customers over a period of time.
He also said liquidators have been appointed and the directors are meeting with them tomorrow. In theory there will be some kind of communication and process in place after this. He also said that Lisa has been instructed not to make a statement, talk to people or go to the shop. Again, I have to say these are his words not mine.
Amanda, says...
5:53pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Anon, Southampton says...
6:34pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Lisa has tried her hardest to mend all the problems in the shop, to the point where she has personally risked her health. To watch her work herself into the ground for a bunch of completely selfish people is heartbreaking...
She has been attacked at her house! One life over a piece of material, people are so focused on money and do not seem to realise that a persons life has been completely destroyed over someone elses mistakes!
I am a bride myself and I would never dream of going around her house, you people should be ashamed of yourselves!
Derek, Dibden Purlieu says...
6:40pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Clare, says...
6:44pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Concerned Friend, New Forest says...
6:58pm Wed 25 Jun 08
I don't think you can generalise and call all the bridges selfish and be disgusted by their behaviour that seems a little unfair! People are looking for answers, I would never condone people threatening the owner, but I do believe that taking money from people as late as last week when surely she would have known her financial position is nothing but cruel to the brides, grooms and families. I understand that businesses can experience financial difficulty, but reading some of these posts it seems nothing but fraud when the shop owner takes full payment for a dress that is never ordered!
paul b, says...
7:16pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Dissapointed Bride to Be, winchester says...
7:28pm Wed 25 Jun 08
I'd like to know how you managed to smile sweetly and take £945 off my mum last month for my wedding dress which you knew you couldn't honour. What did you hope to achieve in doing that? Surely you knew your business was in such a mess by then that you wouldn't be able to deliver it?
I spoke to Charlotte Balbier who's dress I ordered and she said she has received no order and no money from you. That's theft isnt it?
I hope you do the decent thing and refund my mum and all the other brides that you have outstanding orders for.
Anxious, new forest says...
7:30pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Christine, Lordshill says...
7:32pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected bride, Soton says...
7:43pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Sam, soton says...
7:45pm Wed 25 Jun 08
She has worked herself into the ground to the point of being hospitalised and having collapsed on numerous occasions. Grown men have threatened every member of staff in that shop and all they were doing was trying to help them out. She has a heart of gold and would never rip anyone off or commit fraud like some of you are suggesting. It makes me sick.
I hope you are all proud of yourselves, she worked 14 hours per day for the last god knows how long sorting brides out and this is how you repay her. Monday night 12 guys turned up at her house and broke into her property, big ey. A lot more has happened but I won't go into detail, it's horrific.
Yes I understand you have spent a lot of money but you can go to the designer or cc card company...
As somebody said earlier "at least nobody died" well there's one person that's come fairly close and that's the girl who has tried to help you lot.
Sam, soton says...
7:53pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Funny how the Designers suddenly come out of the woodwork to make themselves look good, the truth will be out.....
Effected Bride, Soton says...
7:56pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Sahira Latif, Southampton says...
8:18pm Wed 25 Jun 08
People have spent thousands including myself and I am totally shocked how a individual could lie and be so selfish. I have no sympathy for you Lisa.
distressed, Bath says...
8:22pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Advice to brides - contact your designer - they can help. 'My' dress that I had fitted last week was the sample dress which they had taken in to fit me. Its still at the shop and no doubt I'll never see it.
What is happening to the Bradford-on-Avon shop - this is where my dress is from.
Good luck to all the other brides.
Zoe and Steve - Ashurst, Ashurst says...
8:24pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Sam wrote:Just to clarify our post earlier was in no way defending the actions of Arvella or Lisa. We were merely quoting what her husband had told us.
Some of these comments and the behaviour of some people is despicable, as Steve and Zoe stated above a statement will be made as Lisa has been told to make no comment. She has worked herself into the ground to the point of being hospitalised and having collapsed on numerous occasions. Grown men have threatened every member of staff in that shop and all they were doing was trying to help them out. She has a heart of gold and would never rip anyone off or commit fraud like some of you are suggesting. It makes me sick. I hope you are all proud of yourselves, she worked 14 hours per day for the last god knows how long sorting brides out and this is how you repay her. Monday night 12 guys turned up at her house and broke into her property, big ey. A lot more has happened but I won\'t go into detail, it\'s horrific. Yes I understand you have spent a lot of money but you can go to the designer or cc card company... As somebody said earlier \"at least nobody died\" well there\'s one person that\'s come fairly close and that\'s the girl who has tried to help you lot.
I for one have no reason to believe people who have consistently lied to their customers over an extended period of time and most certainly do not have any sympathy for the situation they find themselves in,
Zoe, Wickham says...
8:41pm Wed 25 Jun 08
anon, says...
8:45pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Lisa Clarkson wrote:Funny how you are listed as a director, bit higher than a manager wouldn't you say??
I can\\\\\\\'t go on anymore, I\\\\\\\'m only the manager, it\\\\\\\'s just not my fault I have done my best. The comments on these pages are horrible, everyone keeps turning up at my house and I haven\\\\\\\'t done anything wrong, this is making me ill. I will not be able to be contacted on the advice of my employer so I\\\\\\\'m going on holiday, everyone can deal with the head office in Bradford.
Enjoy a sangria on us.......sod it, go for the Dom Perignon!
Ben's Lab Brother, Charlie, Southampton says...
8:45pm Wed 25 Jun 08
To publish someones address on a public forum is dispicable - Lisa is a human being and the Lisa that I know would not have knowingly hurt a fly I am sure there is a very reasonable explanation for all of this.
If as has been said, Lisa has been made ill over this matter then I hope you all feel ashamed of yourselves, Lisa is one of the kindest people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting and the thought of her being hospitalised over business is just awful.
Lisa, I truly hope you read this and can work out from my user name who I am - I am thinking of you all and hope you know you can contact me or my family at any time and we will support you as much as we can, please please take care of yourself.
Marge, Wickham says...
8:49pm Wed 25 Jun 08
lmonella and malaria!!!!!!!!
Sam, soton says...
8:56pm Wed 25 Jun 08
I didn't realise how much scum there was in this world. I hope every single person that goes to her house gets their comeuppance, they won't find her anyway.
Those people making accusations, she's lied, she's lied etc....just wait for the statement before you make accusations...
Dissapointed bride to be, winchester says...
8:58pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Beth, says...
9:01pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Sam, says...
9:04pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Dear Oh dear!!
The watchman, New Forest says...
9:05pm Wed 25 Jun 08
hmm wrote:I just love the fact that, although you are obviously bored with the subject of this article, you STILL read the entire thing then left a comment! You are one heck of a human being! Seriously, how much time have you got on your hands? GO AWAY!!!
Does anyone really care?
To coin a phrase: THE WATCHMAN HAS SPOKEN !
And on a more sympathetic note: I really feel for anyone out there who has been affected by the closure of this shop. I know 7 people so far who have lost out (including my sister).
I hope you all manage to get your outfits and your money back. More to the point I wish you all luck on your respective special days and know you will look beautiful in whatever you wear. ****
ex bankrupt, soton says...
9:15pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Dissapointed Bride to Be wrote:im sorry but how can she refund what is not hers. as soon as someone goes bankrupt they have no say on who they can give money too.
So come on Lisa. Let's hear your side of the story?? I'd like to know how you managed to smile sweetly and take £945 off my mum last month for my wedding dress which you knew you couldn't honour. What did you hope to achieve in doing that? Surely you knew your business was in such a mess by then that you wouldn't be able to deliver it? I spoke to Charlotte Balbier who's dress I ordered and she said she has received no order and no money from you. That's theft isnt it? I hope you do the decent thing and refund my mum and all the other brides that you have outstanding orders for.
in fact, if she has gone bankrupt it is a criminal offence for her to pay anyone. the only people who can give your mum her money back is the credit card company or official reciever. she will be commiting a criminal offence which can result in prison for refunding someone. any money the company has is now the official recievers.
ream wedding gowns, Tadley, Hampshire says...
9:21pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Martin wrote:Hi, Sophia Tolli is also known as Mon cheri bridals, i'm sure if you contacted Mon cheri they would try to help.
Have just found out this news via my very unhappy Fiancee! She has ordered her dress through Arvella and the designer was Sophia Tolli. Anyone had any luck in contacting this designer?
nichaela jones, north wales says...
9:26pm Wed 25 Jun 08
anon, says...
9:28pm Wed 25 Jun 08
nichaela jones wrote:idiot
this is like looking into a black hole. 11 years ago I was getting my dress made by a shop in conwy. i attended regular fittings and paid a deposit or my dress until one day i turned up for a fittin to be met with a group of unhappy brides to be informing me that he lady was no where to be found and there was a letter of liquidation on the door. this company was also limited and when i contacted trading standards i was told that this as the 3rd wedding shop the lady had owned and gone into liquidation each tme using her childrens names each time.my heart goes out to all ou brdes to be but please don't let this selfish money grabbing individual to ruin the best ay in your lives. X
King Mush, Woolston says...
9:30pm Wed 25 Jun 08
"But Angela, don't you know there are starving children in Africa that don't even have wedding dresses?"
Oh yeah? Name one
jo bright, totton says...
9:32pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Elain Chiversl, Marchwood says...
9:33pm Wed 25 Jun 08
had the done so there would be no angry or upset brides and grooms
me, here says...
9:34pm Wed 25 Jun 08
King Mush wrote:nowah dressieforme
A Mexican Bandit: \"But Angela, don\'t you know there are starving children in Africa that don\'t even have wedding dresses?\" Oh yeah? Name one
Effected Bride, Soton says...
9:43pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Beth, says...
9:44pm Wed 25 Jun 08
ric flair, wwe says...
9:47pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected Bride wrote:how do you KNOW that she lied
It is very easy to say \'just you wait and see, the truth will come out soon\'. You say you can\'t believe we are saying she has lied -wait and see\'. I am telling you now (fact) that she has lied. Whatever \'comes out\' in time won\'t change that fact. If she has been hurt etc that doesn\'t change that fact, if her suppliers have let her down she still lied to us (fact), if someone has stollen from her she still took our money and lied, if she has had a nervous breakdown she still lied. I dont see what could possibly come out that is going to make all of this OK. Am I missing something?
Effected Bride, Soton says...
9:51pm Wed 25 Jun 08
If there is something I am missing I am really sorry but I just cant see it myself.
ric flair, wwe says...
9:58pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected Bride wrote:im sorry but the supplier saying she didnt place an order is not proof of her lying.
To me saying one thing and doing another, offering things she had no intention of delivering, taking money for them and not placing the orders then telling me she has done it and it will be with me soon is lying. You are now talking in riddles! Unless of course she was being held at gun point everytime and forced into saying everything she did?..... If there is something I am missing I am really sorry but I just cant see it myself.
its common for suppliers that know someone has gone bank rupt to deny they have any orders or obligations to official reciever.
im not saying that this is what happenen , but i am saying it happens and just because someone told you no order was place is not proof that it hasnt been placed.
Emma, Shirrell Heath says...
10:07pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Nicola, says...
10:07pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Emma, Shirrell Heath says...
10:07pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jo, says...
10:07pm Wed 25 Jun 08
ric flair wrote:Effected Bride. How do you know these orders were not placed? Let's say they weren't, how do you know it was Lisa? You don't. AND how do you know she had no intention of fulfilling them? You don't.
Effected Bride wrote:im sorry but the supplier saying she didnt place an order is not proof of her lying.
To me saying one thing and doing another, offering things she had no intention of delivering, taking money for them and not placing the orders then telling me she has done it and it will be with me soon is lying. You are now talking in riddles! Unless of course she was being held at gun point everytime and forced into saying everything she did?..... If there is something I am missing I am really sorry but I just cant see it myself.
its common for suppliers that know someone has gone bank rupt to deny they have any orders or obligations to official reciever.
im not saying that this is what happenen , but i am saying it happens and just because someone told you no order was place is not proof that it hasnt been placed.
patron, Soton says...
10:10pm Wed 25 Jun 08
ric flair, wwe says...
10:12pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Emma wrote:i dont know her.
Friends of Lisa, do you not realise posting sob stories is just infuriating the people she has ripped off and lied to even more.
but her friends have as much right to stick up for on here as you do to moan about her.
distressed, Bath says...
10:12pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Commom theft. I hope she goes to jail!
Sarah, Southampton says...
10:15pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Emma wrote:I couldnt care less if I am infuriating you or anyone else for that matter, the behaviour of some of the posters on this thread is despicable. I am perfectly entitled to my opinion, as are you - we are talking wedding dresses here, not life or flippin death!
Friends of Lisa, do you not realise posting sob stories is just infuriating the people she has ripped off and lied to even more.
Nicola, says...
10:15pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jo, says...
10:15pm Wed 25 Jun 08
patron wrote:Well said
FFS anyone would think this Lisa woman was Myra Hindley the way you lot are carrying on. People going round her house and threatening her and you dont even know the whole story yet. Lets have a we hate lisa demo outside the houses of parliment "what do we want wedding dresses when do we ...etc" grow up.
Jane Lockhart, Poole says...
10:17pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected Bride, Soton says...
10:18pm Wed 25 Jun 08
dan, toton says...
10:43pm Wed 25 Jun 08
mean while i will have to work 30 days solid to pay for some more suits, how many more companies??????
lisa is a director, if she is in the clear, why dosnt she clear her name???????
no chance!!!!!!!!!!!
hope she stays abroad!
Jo, says...
10:50pm Wed 25 Jun 08
dan wrote:More proof of Chinese Whispers. Why do you think she's on holiday?
Well that says it all going holiday !!!!
mean while i will have to work 30 days solid to pay for some more suits, how many more companies??????
lisa is a director, if she is in the clear, why dosnt she clear her name???????
no chance!!!!!!!!!!!
hope she stays abroad!
The Watchman, The Ether says...
10:57pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jo wrote:Earlier on someone (maybe Lisa maybe not) made the following comment on this page:
dan wrote:More proof of Chinese Whispers. Why do you think she's on holiday?
Well that says it all going holiday !!!!
mean while i will have to work 30 days solid to pay for some more suits, how many more companies??????
lisa is a director, if she is in the clear, why dosnt she clear her name???????
no chance!!!!!!!!!!!
hope she stays abroad!
Lisa Clarkson wrote:
I can\\'t go on anymore, I\\'m only the manager, it\\'s just not my fault I have done my best. The comments on these pages are horrible, everyone keeps turning up at my house and I haven\\'t done anything wrong, this is making me ill. I will not be able to be contacted on the advice of my employer so I\\'m going on holiday, everyone can deal with the head office in Bradford.
Sorry this is a cut and paste job but you can only quote one comment at a time (hint daily echo!!!).
This comment must have been removed but it is quoted in another comment about halfway down the page. (try searching for Lisa Clarkson with your browsers search funcionality)
Elain Chivers, Marchwood says...
10:59pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jo, says...
11:02pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Anon, says...
11:05pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Elain Chivers wrote:So that's gospel then, because somebody who is trying to protect their name says so!
Someone asked earlier how brides know that their dresses were not ordered? They know because they have had it confirmed by the suppliers.
Effected Bride, Soton says...
11:06pm Wed 25 Jun 08
dan, totton says...
11:07pm Wed 25 Jun 08
unless she can get her self out of this she should go aboard!!! or to sea
trouble ahead, says...
11:09pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected Bride, Soton says...
11:12pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Batman, Gotham City says...
11:15pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Jo wrote:Unfortunately there is no proof either way. The ability to enter any name and location when posting a comment on this site makes any remark questionable.
Don't tell me you really think that was her? Somehow I don't think she would come on here and write that!
There are many comments made by people who claim to know Lisa but how do we know it's not just someones idea of a sick joke? We don't!
For all we know you may even BE Lisa!
What we do know is there are a lot of hurt and angry customers out there. Customers that don't know how Lisa would act in this situation thus making the earlier comments easy to believe.
By the way I really AM Batman :P
dan, totton says...
11:15pm Wed 25 Jun 08
FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD................
.....MAYBE THE WIZARD OF OZ CAN FIND YOU A HEART!!
Concerned reader, new forest says...
11:23pm Wed 25 Jun 08
leah wrote:Leah,
Girls..im getting worried now.. that people are mentioning that the suppliers maybe lying?? surely not.. i got in contact with Sophia Tolli designer who were really nice and helpful.. should i trust them? getting stressed about all this x
The suppliers are more likely to help you than lie to you. Without casting stones they are still trading and wish to continue to do so, it is not in their interests not to help as much as they can. I would suggest staying in touch with Sophia Tolli - talking to her is 100 times better than sitting at home worrying.
leah, soton says...
11:25pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected Bride, soton says...
11:26pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Bride 2 Be, Hampshire says...
11:30pm Wed 25 Jun 08
leah, soton says...
11:30pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected Bride, Soton says...
11:35pm Wed 25 Jun 08
Effected Bride, Soton says...
11:35pm Wed 25 Jun 08
kim, says...
11:35pm Wed 25 Jun 08
What happened to trust, honour and professionalism ? It's clear this Lisa woman is a nasty, two faced, duplicitous, lying thief with no concern for innocent people who handed over probably tens of thousands of pounds in good faith. Where was her good faith ?
She deserves all she gets quite frankly.
kim, says...
11:43pm Wed 25 Jun 08
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Seems there are financial troubles at the other shop owned by the Clarkson family too....still say she isn't lying ?
She'll be on a flight to somewhere exotic with her ill gotten gains....
Becky, Wiltshire says...
12:27am Thu 26 Jun 08
I really feel so very sorry for all of you unlucky ones, if you still have time before your wedding contact your designer and they will help you, if you paid by credit card, you can get refunded - ACT NOW and good luck :)
Fanny Fucklestone, Gosport says...
12:36am Thu 26 Jun 08
Natalie Douglas, Bournemouth says...
12:49am Thu 26 Jun 08
TO ALL BRIDES GETTING MARRIED FROM SEPTEMBER ONWARDS:
I am willing to help. I will give every bride a 10% discount on Pronovias or LaSposa dresses needed. I do also have a variety of quality sale gowns to anyone that needs a dress quickly.
I am very upset that this has happened to all of you brides to be and here to help, so please contact us.
Carolyn the shop manager will be at the shop all day on Thursday 26th and I will be back on Friday 27th.
Natalie - Owner of Brides Boutique
Dee, London says...
12:59am Thu 26 Jun 08
I hope my comments get viewed by anyone that maybe considering opening their own bridal salon on the basis that it is such a lovely job to have. It IS a wonderful industry to be in but it is also very very very hard especially in todays economic climate and where as highlighted on yesterdays BBC programme the brides are prone to using shops as showrooms to give them sufficient knowledge to order off the internet. Also shops can spend hours with a bride before she makes a decision about a gown (OK thats not to say that she should be rushed into a decision) but as yesterdays feature indicated that brides would not want to pay for expert, personalised, lengthy consultations and therefore I predict that the current consumer behaviour will eventually be the catalyst for more and more instances like the Arvella one. For those brides affected I am very sorry to hear about your plight but if you contact the individual designers you will find that provided the orders were sent to the manufacturers then the gowns will be in production so hopefully they can release the gown to your nearest other stockist.
huckit P, Winchester says...
1:17am Thu 26 Jun 08
Dee, London says...
1:20am Thu 26 Jun 08
Effected Bride wrote:I know people want answers but casting aspersions will not help. The first business she had was a partnership that sold out when both partners wanted to go their seperate ways, no brides were affected. The second name Tulip had to be changed as someone complained that Lisa was using the name of their business so effectively passing off so Tulip and Arvella are the one and the same. There is no suspicion due over this matter at least.
Im sure the supplier would deny it if they knew she had gone bankrupt. But I bought the dress back in early November - it seems all her accounts/ returns were ok back then. If she knew that her suppliers were not delivering dresses because they were concerned about her accounts she should have dealt with the appropriately at the time, not continue to offer me more services. Why has she traded under 3 different names? If its not Lisa lying then it the Suppliers. I was told my dress had been sent, it clearly hadnt - others have been given fake dresses to be altered to fit them even display models. How is this not lying? All very sus to me!
Lowe and behold, St Marys hotseat says...
1:52am Thu 26 Jun 08
Bin bag sales have shot up by 500 per cent today said a spokesman for a national bin bag oulet.
Kleenex tissues are also reporting brisk sales today through out the south......
Poshbird, Winchester says...
7:12am Thu 26 Jun 08
huckit P wrote:Well you obviously haven't been blessed with a daughter have you? If you had you would know that every little girl dreams of having a beautiful dress on their wedding - it's the one day in their lives that they will want to look and feel like a princess. Sadly there are people out there willing to exploit this special day but heartless comments like yours are only adding to these poor girls misery - have a heart!
Tough luck on all those who will inevitably lose money but why spend such large sums of money in the first place? Over £1000 in some cases and for what? One day in a dress that will never get worn again and will take up a large chunk of your wardrobe until kingdom come! The whole marriage business seems simply about people frittering grotesquely large sums of money away, into the pockets of greedy people who are there with a smile to take it! Get back to the point of marriage, not use it as an excuse to show how much money you have (or haven\'t) got. Marriage is about 2 people loving each other enough to want to spend the rest of their natural with each other. Whether it is a church or Registry Office wedding it is simply unecessary to part with so much money and probably receive a large credit card bill or bank account overdraft to start married life with! Come to your senses and you won\'t be standing outside a bridal gown shop wondering where your money has gone!
shay, southampton says...
7:35am Thu 26 Jun 08
If anyones waiting on a Cymbeline dress we are doing our very best to get these sorted Cymbeline have been fantastic and are sending a dress to arrive today for a bride getting married this Sat!
And I also know some of the other brands and have spoken with various designers and it is true to say they didn't receive some of the orders and they are all doing their best to get dresses organised and out to brides. So contact your designers asap they will be very helpful.
If anyones still not able to locate their dress and we can be of help feel free to contact us
Shay Harris Bridal Lounge
74 Bedford Place
Southampton
SO15 2DF
02380638602
Stella, Oxford says...
9:50am Thu 26 Jun 08
Poshbird wrote:Have you heard yourself?? These are not "Little Girls" that are getting married, they are grown women. My daughter feels like a princess everyday because as her mother I put her above everything else and make her feel valued. She doesnt need a big ivory dress to do it. Any bride that thinks that life is perfect and there big day should be "perfect" is setting themselves up for a whole heap of disappointment. As for misery, think about those more unfortunate at whatever level, be that a person who has lost their livelihood, people around the world who are losing their lives daily or people losing all of thier possessions through natural disater. I think what you r daughter has lost is a sense of perspective.
huckit P wrote: Tough luck on all those who will inevitably lose money but why spend such large sums of money in the first place? Over £1000 in some cases and for what? One day in a dress that will never get worn again and will take up a large chunk of your wardrobe until kingdom come! The whole marriage business seems simply about people frittering grotesquely large sums of money away, into the pockets of greedy people who are there with a smile to take it! Get back to the point of marriage, not use it as an excuse to show how much money you have (or haven\'t) got. Marriage is about 2 people loving each other enough to want to spend the rest of their natural with each other. Whether it is a church or Registry Office wedding it is simply unecessary to part with so much money and probably receive a large credit card bill or bank account overdraft to start married life with! Come to your senses and you won\'t be standing outside a bridal gown shop wondering where your money has gone!Well you obviously haven't been blessed with a daughter have you? If you had you would know that every little girl dreams of having a beautiful dress on their wedding - it's the one day in their lives that they will want to look and feel like a princess. Sadly there are people out there willing to exploit this special day but heartless comments like yours are only adding to these poor girls misery - have a heart!
Rachel, Southampton says...
11:29am Thu 26 Jun 08
Stella, Oxford says...
12:17pm Thu 26 Jun 08
Rachel wrote:There is a spectrum of feelings and opinions on this type of forum. Obviously your personal loss is sad and having lost my mum ten days ago (funeral tomorrow) I can not start to feel how bad you must feel knowing cant be physically there to share your special day. I am sorry if my comments have offended you however I maintain that the loss of money and a special dress(es) does not give people the right to threaten violence to other people if they dont get their own way, keep their fingers crossed that the shop pwners gets maralira while on a fictious holiday with their money or call an other individual a con person when they do not know the facts. The comments above about greed and money making for instance. The woman that owned this bridal shop was trying to make herself a living, like most of us although some people myself included do it in a risk-free way by being an employee. Not that I dont try to make money, if I thought I could negotiate more then I would. Thats not greed thats human nature. The only way you can term this Lisa woman as greedy is that she was syponing off the money being paid to her to furnish her own livestyle and to be honest no one on here knows that for sure. By the way Rachel I hope your day goes well and I am sure your dad would be proud of the way you have carried on in spite of his being there, you sound pretty well rounded.
I find your comments very insensitive! I have lost money on bridesmaid dresses and suits from this shop. I am fortunate to be able to claim back from my credit card and have 6 months to sort it out. However, if it had been my wedding dress I would have been devastated. I have experienced personal loss as my Dad died when I was 12. Everyday I am finding it hard to know that he will not be at my wedding and the thought of having to deal with more stress as well is hard to contemplate. I agree marriage is more than just the wedding day and these issues are small in comparison to problems you will have to deal with as man and wife, however, like most brides I am only planning to do this once and I have found the man i want to spend the rest of my life with and I work hard so why do I not deserve the perfect day?!!!
Charlotte Murrell, Alton Hampshire says...
12:32pm Thu 26 Jun 08
if you would like us to help you please do call us.
amaryllis-bridal.co.
uk
Best of Luck
Gemma Stevens, Dibden Purlieu says...
12:43pm Thu 26 Jun 08
Kim, Southampton says...
12:48pm Thu 26 Jun 08
hmm wrote:Mark if you were one of those Brides would you just think poo happens - I think not!!!!!
Mark wrote: poo happens! it could be worse, a hospital could have closed.exactly
Nicola, says...
1:32pm Thu 26 Jun 08
Please help if you can.
Gemma Stevens, Dibden Purlieu says...
3:35pm Thu 26 Jun 08
Nicola wrote:Nicola, my bridesmaid dresses were delivered about 9pm Tuesday evening - did you actually see your dress. I would say that if you have physically seen it and tried it on there is chance you will get it. I was told they would be delivering up until Friday. But if you have not seen it be warned they may have just told you it had come in. Try and google Atelier Diaganol - if you can find a number for them you can contact them direct. If your order was placed they will have details of it under your name. They may have it and just reqire payment.
Has anyone recievd there dress? is she sndign them all out? I was told my dres was in storge and was due to have a fittign next wednesday, would love to hear from the people that have and if anyone has any detail of who i can tact my dress came from Italy i think Atelier Diaganol. Please help if you can.
Nicola, says...
4:00pm Thu 26 Jun 08
Sally, London says...
4:30pm Thu 26 Jun 08
Nicola, says...
5:17pm Thu 26 Jun 08
Does anyone know where stocks Altelier Diagonal (pronovias range)
louise, sholing says...
7:19am Fri 27 Jun 08
Lizzie, Bournemouth says...
8:49am Fri 27 Jun 08
Gemma, Dibden Purlieu says...
9:40am Fri 27 Jun 08
Nicola wrote:Nicky Hill in Botley stock the pronvias range
Thank you for that info Sally x. Does anyone know where stocks Altelier Diagonal (pronovias range)
facts not speculation, dorset says...
10:12am Sat 28 Jun 08
Previously registered as Blackburn Steel Bride Ltd and Tulip Bridal Ltd
Arvella accounts not registered In jan 2008 (suspicious)
Deposits taken up front on a continual basis for 80-100% of orders
Is this a civil matter or is it a case of possible fraud, in which case the police should be involved If you think the latter please phone the Police now and register your concerns. Their standard response will be it is a civil matter. it is you right as an honest citizen to request a Police investigation despite the fact there may be no case to answer. But no one has asked where all the deposits have gone? since there is evidence the suppliers in some not all cases have NOT BEEN PAID
Lisa. I appeal to your good nature to declare your hand and seek professional advice.
We need to know the full story.
We have all trusted your integrity and paid upfront for goods not received. The least you can do is reappear on SouthToday and tell a complete story not some nonosense about blaming your suppliers Your customer base are honest hard working people who have now lost large sums of money
I rest my angry case
brides Father, says...
10:26am Sat 28 Jun 08
It is a poor reflection of human behaviour when individuals are picking at others who have made, what they consider to be constructive comments about their own problems
We are a civilised society, so visiting Lisa's house is not the way to deal with the problem
There are other bridal shops in the area who are more than willing to assist in this crisis
So please Let us all maintain some dignity and respect for each other in this process
If you think it is a Police matter ring them, but on the understanding that we are all innocent until proven guilty
I am personally upset for my daughter, and my wallet is depleted of £1200 but it is not flood death or famine, so please lets all keep a level head, and some perspective
Thankyou
kim, says...
3:58pm Sat 28 Jun 08
brides Father wrote:Very charitable of you to extend a degree of sympathy to Lisa Clarkson...and good for you that you had the financial resources to bail out your daughter You shouldn't have had to do so but for the fraudlent and duplicitous activites of this conwoman......many of these brides are not in the same comfortable position to do so. That is the perspective.
In the context of life itself, and marriage and relationships with people, this is only an inconvenience. If you consider any one affected by this problem must look at the big picture, and learn lessons from it.
It is a poor reflection of human behaviour when individuals are picking at others who have made, what they consider to be constructive comments about their own problems
We are a civilised society, so visiting Lisa's house is not the way to deal with the problem
There are other bridal shops in the area who are more than willing to assist in this crisis
So please Let us all maintain some dignity and respect for each other in this process
If you think it is a Police matter ring them, but on the understanding that we are all innocent until proven guilty
I am personally upset for my daughter, and my wallet is depleted of £1200 but it is not flood death or famine, so please lets all keep a level head, and some perspective
Thankyou
Disappointed, says...
9:36am Mon 30 Jun 08
kim wrote:Well said kim =)
brides Father wrote: In the context of life itself, and marriage and relationships with people, this is only an inconvenience. If you consider any one affected by this problem must look at the big picture, and learn lessons from it. It is a poor reflection of human behaviour when individuals are picking at others who have made, what they consider to be constructive comments about their own problems We are a civilised society, so visiting Lisa's house is not the way to deal with the problem There are other bridal shops in the area who are more than willing to assist in this crisis So please Let us all maintain some dignity and respect for each other in this process If you think it is a Police matter ring them, but on the understanding that we are all innocent until proven guilty I am personally upset for my daughter, and my wallet is depleted of £1200 but it is not flood death or famine, so please lets all keep a level head, and some perspective ThankyouVery charitable of you to extend a degree of sympathy to Lisa Clarkson...and good for you that you had the financial resources to bail out your daughter You shouldn't have had to do so but for the fraudlent and duplicitous activites of this conwoman......many of these brides are not in the same comfortable position to do so. That is the perspective.
Bride, says...
6:34pm Tue 1 Jul 08
brides Father wrote:Well said :)
In the context of life itself, and marriage and relationships with people, this is only an inconvenience. If you consider any one affected by this problem must look at the big picture, and learn lessons from it.
It is a poor reflection of human behaviour when individuals are picking at others who have made, what they consider to be constructive comments about their own problems
We are a civilised society, so visiting Lisa's house is not the way to deal with the problem
There are other bridal shops in the area who are more than willing to assist in this crisis
So please Let us all maintain some dignity and respect for each other in this process
If you think it is a Police matter ring them, but on the understanding that we are all innocent until proven guilty
I am personally upset for my daughter, and my wallet is depleted of £1200 but it is not flood death or famine, so please lets all keep a level head, and some perspective
Thankyou
Bride, says...
6:45pm Tue 1 Jul 08
facts not speculation wrote:The only evidence you have is the 'word' of the supplier, which is quite frankly bulls***. I have seen the other side of the evidence on paper.
Arvella Bridal Mother and duaghter business both closed
Previously registered as Blackburn Steel Bride Ltd and Tulip Bridal Ltd
Arvella accounts not registered In jan 2008 (suspicious)
Deposits taken up front on a continual basis for 80-100% of orders
Is this a civil matter or is it a case of possible fraud, in which case the police should be involved If you think the latter please phone the Police now and register your concerns. Their standard response will be it is a civil matter. it is you right as an honest citizen to request a Police investigation despite the fact there may be no case to answer. But no one has asked where all the deposits have gone? since there is evidence the suppliers in some not all cases have NOT BEEN PAID
Lisa. I appeal to your good nature to declare your hand and seek professional advice.
We need to know the full story.
We have all trusted your integrity and paid upfront for goods not received. The least you can do is reappear on SouthToday and tell a complete story not some nonosense about blaming your suppliers Your customer base are honest hard working people who have now lost large sums of money
I rest my angry case
Lisa will be giving her side of the story in the near future, why I don't know as some of you will never believe a word she says.
As for the business names, as has been said many times before, Her first business was a partnership and they went their separate ways, no business problems, no brides affected...she then opened Tulip Bridal but another competitor complained that it was similar to their's so she changed it to Arvella so Tulip and Arvella are one of the same.
It isn't and won't be a Police matter. Sorry to disappoint you.
Bliss Bridal, Christchurch, Dorset says...
7:40pm Tue 1 Jul 08
co.uk or me contact via email if I can help you in any way.
Bride, Southampton says...
4:55pm Wed 2 Jul 08
MickP, Lymington says...
2:32pm Sun 20 Jul 08
IN SHOCK: Customers Joanne Wray, Helen Biffin, Sue Shanahan and Lindsay Platt in front of Arvella Bridal's whitewashed windows.
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La La, Totton says...
9:05am Wed 25 Jun 08
But as i am a bit of a penny pincher i got my dress off of ebay.... brand new and with me within 2 weeks max! made to measure!!! might be worth having a look girls...