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Children ‘risk lives’ by halting air ambulance

2:11pm Thursday 7th August 2008

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CHILDREN are putting lives at risk by refusing to get out of the way as Hampshire's air ambulance tries to land at Southampton with critically ill patients on board.

Pilots and paramedics have been sworn at by youngsters when they have been asked to move and have been met with cocky responses like: "Are you going to make us?"

Some landings have been delayed by up to half an hour while people on the ground, including paramedics in waiting ambulances, battle to clear the area andmake it safe.

Take-off is also being hindered by youngsters refusing to move a safe distance from the spinning rotors.

Air ambulance bosses have warned lives could be lost - and urged youngsters to think about the critically ill people on board first.

If the problem continues helicopter chiefs say they could be forced to pull out of the site altogether and find somewhere else.

But doing so would create a logistical nightmare for paramedics who need to have a helipad as close to the hospital as possible to get patients critical care quickly.

The dangerous situation has occurred numerous times at the Lordshill Recreation Ground in Southampton, known locally as Five Acres.

Pilots have reported the problems at weekends, during school holidays and since the start of the summer break.

Merrick Forsyth, director of flight operations for Bond Air Services, which supplies pilots to fly the aircraft, said: "It's happened several times recently and it is a small minority of kids who clearly think it's hilariously funny. There have been a number of occasions on weekends and in the holidays mainly and it tends to start with one kid and the others latch on. It presents us with real problems.

We use Lordshill when we have a critically ill patient who needs to get to hospital quickly as this is the nearest landing area.

"However, if it is not safe to land we won't - but that might well compromise the patient.

"Spending half an hour getting kids out of the way delays the response to the person most in need."

South Central Ambulance Service medical director Charles Deakin, who fought for six years to get an air ambulance for Hampshire, added: "When the helicopter lands, every second counts for the ill person on board."

Hampshire police said they had received no reports of problems but would try to help.

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gorf, soton says...
9:06am Thu 7 Aug 08

why dont they build a heli-pad at the southampton general hospital??

The Star Chamber, says...
9:08am Thu 7 Aug 08

gorf wrote:
why dont they build a heli-pad at the southampton general hospital??
They had the opportunity to place one on top of the new cardio suite but didn't. Now they plan to place it atop of the new childrens block - but that is a staged process and could take a decade to complete.

Ric, Totton says...
9:15am Thu 7 Aug 08

What about police/community officers being there when it lands if they can attend ?

martin, shirley says...
9:33am Thu 7 Aug 08

Maby they should knock down the waste of space 1 story car park at the general and build a proper 5 story car park instead, giving free parking to disabled drivers, free parking to hospital staff, and a heli-pad on the top floor. but that would be sensible and far to obvious .

Harsh, but Fair says...
9:43am Thu 7 Aug 08

Just land, they will soon move.
If they don't, they don't.

pikey, new forest says...
9:45am Thu 7 Aug 08

what do you expect in lordshill,populated by low life, bulldoze the whole area

Fred, says...
9:48am Thu 7 Aug 08

martin wrote:
Maby they should knock down the waste of space 1 story car park at the general and build a proper 5 story car park instead, giving free parking to disabled drivers, free parking to hospital staff, and a heli-pad on the top floor. but that would be sensible and far to obvious .
Your suggestion is by far the most sensible. But it wasn't mentioned as a possibility at Hackett's recent management love-in.

Harsh, but Fair says...
10:03am Thu 7 Aug 08

Can helicopters hover upside down?

Oops, says...
10:04am Thu 7 Aug 08

Harsh wrote:
Can helicopters hover upside down?
Only for a split second before they crash....

Creature Void of Form, says...
10:12am Thu 7 Aug 08

Harsh wrote:
Can helicopters hover upside down?
have you seen the film 28 Weeks Later?...there is a good use of a helicopter which would be appropriate in this instance.

helhod, Tenerife says...
10:16am Thu 7 Aug 08

Scum .name and shame the scum bags .then let's see what reraction (if any) we get fromt he parents.lock them up in fairfield lodge if it is still there.or is it full up!!!
They should not be allowed to get away with this the scum bags ....

Chris Chapman, West End says...
10:34am Thu 7 Aug 08

gorf wrote:
why dont they build a heli-pad at the southampton general hospital??
Because they'd have to pay £1.70 an hour to park it there.... extortion in the extreme, you can park in the Centre of Winchester for 70p per hour less....

simplistic, soton says...
10:41am Thu 7 Aug 08

I would have thought that some good old fashioned communications and joined up thinking would have been the answer. By that I mean that when a casivac flight is expected, the local plod are called who could despatch one of their vehicles plus crew to the landing area. They could then ensure that the area was kept clear by simply arresting the miscreants, sticking them in the said vehicle and letting them out only on the payment of a suitable fine once the emergency is over (the fine should be paid by the parent or guardian of said miscreant at which time, and only at that time, they could be handed back to the said parent or guardian). Sorted!

ha ha ha, says...
10:44am Thu 7 Aug 08

Chris Chapman wrote:
gorf wrote: why dont they build a heli-pad at the southampton general hospital??
Because they'd have to pay £1.70 an hour to park it there.... extortion in the extreme, you can park in the Centre of Winchester for 70p per hour less....
so what do you suggest? Land in the centre of Winchester and then take them by ambulance to the General??????????

stewie, says...
10:44am Thu 7 Aug 08

wot they needz is a youf center or a I-max skinima

clair, Soton transport and air says...
11:08am Thu 7 Aug 08

On reading the above I can vouch for the rest of the country why there are so many drop-outs and the governing sector feel they are top of the pile of thicko's. Take off your masks of brain drains and start to think how serious this is all becoming - we need your constructive ideas not your 'no hoper ideas'.
clair

Future MP, Chav Free Zone says...
11:14am Thu 7 Aug 08

clair wrote:
On reading the above I can vouch for the rest of the country why there are so many drop-outs and the governing sector feel they are top of the pile of thicko's. Take off your masks of brain drains and start to think how serious this is all becoming - we need your constructive ideas not your 'no hoper ideas'. clair
Ooops sorry...

Simple really - fence off the area where the heli needs to land, with CCTV attached nearby to catch the little loves on camera.

Identify them, find their parent(s), fine them or stop the parent's benefits.

That should sort the issue - don't rely on the police, how can they charge a 14yr old Chav anyway?

Bambi, says...
11:30am Thu 7 Aug 08

Oops wrote:
Harsh wrote:
Can helicopters hover upside down?
Only for a split second before they crash....
Rubbish

Dave, Southampton says...
11:37am Thu 7 Aug 08

Future MP wrote:
clair wrote: On reading the above I can vouch for the rest of the country why there are so many drop-outs and the governing sector feel they are top of the pile of thicko's. Take off your masks of brain drains and start to think how serious this is all becoming - we need your constructive ideas not your 'no hoper ideas'. clair
Ooops sorry... Simple really - fence off the area where the heli needs to land, with CCTV attached nearby to catch the little loves on camera. Identify them, find their parent(s), fine them or stop the parent's benefits. That should sort the issue - don't rely on the police, how can they charge a 14yr old Chav anyway?
Fire service are usually there when the helicopter arrives why don't they use their water jets to disperse the idiots

Future MP, Chav Free Zone says...
11:52am Thu 7 Aug 08

Dave wrote:
Future MP wrote:
clair wrote: On reading the above I can vouch for the rest of the country why there are so many drop-outs and the governing sector feel they are top of the pile of thicko's. Take off your masks of brain drains and start to think how serious this is all becoming - we need your constructive ideas not your 'no hoper ideas'. clair
Ooops sorry... Simple really - fence off the area where the heli needs to land, with CCTV attached nearby to catch the little loves on camera. Identify them, find their parent(s), fine them or stop the parent's benefits. That should sort the issue - don't rely on the police, how can they charge a 14yr old Chav anyway?
Fire service are usually there when the helicopter arrives why don't they use their water jets to disperse the idiots
That would only encourage them Dave...

Probably the first wash most of them would get for a while....

BTW, I thought all occupiers of Lordshill were stuck to the tarmac at the moment?

Bob Flemmin, Southampton says...
11:53am Thu 7 Aug 08

Fit the Helo with the weapons system from an Apache Longbow gun ship, they'd be able to clear the landing area from several kilometers away.

During quiet times it could patrol Lordshill, Millbrook and Thornhill, eliminating the chav scum

Reno Ricky, Nevada says...
11:59am Thu 7 Aug 08

Just land!

It will save the country some dole money in a few years!

Oops, says...
12:58pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Bambi wrote:
Oops wrote:
Harsh wrote: Can helicopters hover upside down?
Only for a split second before they crash....
Rubbish
I was joking.

Glad you have a sense of humour.

the vengeful cabbage, says...
1:11pm Thu 7 Aug 08

what they should do is hover the air ambulance over the field then whilst the chavs are distracted throwing sticks at it just run them over in a normal ambulance.

Andy pandy, Shirley says...
1:43pm Thu 7 Aug 08

3 points here,
Surely as air ambulance was introduced some time ago thought should of been put in place as to the best place as to where it is to land, coupled with the increasing desire for all to drive cars .. the obvious place has to be in the hospital grounds, as stated before, the car park is far too small and too low, so extend up top floor to make a heliport. This needs to be done, so get on with it, you can charge the disabled too that would pay for it ! In the mean time over the road there is a lot of open green space called Holybrook cemy! Now come on surely there is enough space there to land?
And while were thinking of improving things Coxford Road crosses the M27 at Chilworth, it's a private Road, why is this not an Ambulance access road to the M27? to save the long slow rush though congested Roads? while were about it, clear Shirley high street of clutter too, and let all traffic flow!
Seeing an ambulance try and drive up here is unpleasant as drivers cant get out of the way due to the clutter.

Dean, Chilworth says...
2:01pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Why on earth would anybody want to be a paramedic these days?
They seem to get constant abuse and have to act as secondary Police officers these days.
What a country we live in.

Derry, west hampshire says...
2:02pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Harsh wrote:
Just land, they will soon move. If they don't, they don't.
I agree, however close the playing field except for scheduled events. Then police it with dog handlers.

ydkjs2, USA says...
2:06pm Thu 7 Aug 08

I have lived out of the country for many years so please excuse my ignorance on some aspects of life in Southampton in the year 2008. I read the Echo every morning but I find the news articles more depressing every day and so I am considering stopping this ritual. But, I feel I must comment on this article. How old are these 'children'? Surely there must be at least one responsible person around to put an end to their criminal behavior? I do not understand why the police cannot be there when a helicopter is coming in to land to arrest the little thugs. How about then they could either require the parents and/or the miscreants work (no pay of course) in the morgue to see what happens when they deliberatly withold urgent medical care. Finally, what is a "chav" and what is "tombstoning"?

Iain, Lordshill says...
2:06pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Nice to see how highly regarded my area is. Don't judge someone on the area they live in. I mean, you'd expect people from Chilworth to be posh and well educated. And then you read Denzil's comments...

Dean, Chilworth says...
2:13pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Iain wrote:
Nice to see how highly regarded my area is. Don't judge someone on the area they live in. I mean, you'd expect people from Chilworth to be posh and well educated. And then you read Denzil's comments...
Agreed.
Im ex Lordswood, made some money and moved to Chilworth.
The question is why did I move?
Is it because its getting worse and worse with the thugs getting worse each generation.

Bob Flemmin, Southampton says...
2:24pm Thu 7 Aug 08

ydkjs2 wrote:
I have lived out of the country for many years so please excuse my ignorance on some aspects of life in Southampton in the year 2008. I read the Echo every morning but I find the news articles more depressing every day and so I am considering stopping this ritual. But, I feel I must comment on this article. How old are these 'children'? Surely there must be at least one responsible person around to put an end to their criminal behavior? I do not understand why the police cannot be there when a helicopter is coming in to land to arrest the little thugs. How about then they could either require the parents and/or the miscreants work (no pay of course) in the morgue to see what happens when they deliberatly withold urgent medical care. Finally, what is a "chav" and what is "tombstoning"?
Police are busy doing paper work and speed checks

Derry, west hampshire says...
2:40pm Thu 7 Aug 08

On a serious note there are probably Air Navigation Laws and Air Safety laws whereby the individuals involved could be arrested and charged.

Furthermore on identification due process would end up with these idiots given exclusion orders which would mean arrest if they go near the playing field.


pigs in blankets, so there says...
2:41pm Thu 7 Aug 08

martin wrote:
Maby they should knock down the waste of space 1 story car park at the general and build a proper 5 story car park instead, giving free parking to disabled drivers, free parking to hospital staff, and a heli-pad on the top floor. but that would be sensible and far to obvious .
guess you're disabled then.

I personally would like free parking for mums under 35

Mmmmmm, winch says...
2:42pm Thu 7 Aug 08

yes of course you are........

wrigleys extra, chewing time says...
2:54pm Thu 7 Aug 08

the vengeful cabbage wrote:
what they should do is hover the air ambulance over the field then whilst the chavs are distracted throwing sticks at it just run them over in a normal ambulance.
i agree

those days, in these days says...
2:58pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Dean wrote:
Why on earth would anybody want to be a paramedic these days? They seem to get constant abuse and have to act as secondary Police officers these days. What a country we live in.
i dont know what are these days coming to

Thornhill mandem, TPA THORHILL says...
3:33pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Mmmmmm wrote:
yes of course you are........
Blud dnt eva get me twisted wit da lead from da muddafrikkin shed, u end up dead

ydkjs2, USA says...
3:41pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Bill wrote:
ydkjs2 wrote: I have lived out of the country for many years so please excuse my ignorance on some aspects of life in Southampton in the year 2008. I read the Echo every morning but I find the news articles more depressing every day and so I am considering stopping this ritual. But, I feel I must comment on this article. How old are these 'children'? Surely there must be at least one responsible person around to put an end to their criminal behavior? I do not understand why the police cannot be there when a helicopter is coming in to land to arrest the little thugs. How about then they could either require the parents and/or the miscreants work (no pay of course) in the morgue to see what happens when they deliberatly withold urgent medical care. Finally, what is a "chav" and what is "tombstoning"?
CHAV is C ouncil H ouse A dolescent V ermin. Tombstoning is the same as cannon-balling, jumping fro a height into water, making a big splash.
Thank you.

Roy S, Southampton says...
3:43pm Thu 7 Aug 08

It would seem that the Council are of the opinion that the scum arent worth saving since they are axing the bus service from millbrook to the Hospital. Good idea save on benefit payments

Lynne, Chandlers Ford says...
3:47pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Without even reading as far as to find out what area it was in that the the Air Ambulance was having trouble landing at i kind of guessed and 'yes' how right was my guess. Only low-life from the areas of Lordshill, Millbrook & Redbridge could be caught up in something like this. My mind boggle's as to what's going to be the next Headline from these areas. Trouble is now there is so much trash in this country from kids having kids and couldn't care how their brought up that it's so much out of hand i don't think anyone can put it right. No wonder more people emigrated last year than any other year. Unfortunately it will eventually be all the descent folk going and we're be left with all the trash of society. What a future i hope that maybe i won't be around here by that time either. Agree with the other too just let the Helicopter land and sod who's in the way.

Mmmmmmm, winch says...
3:51pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Thornhill Madam or who ever you are ? Nice, have a lovely day yourself – kiss kiss big hug god is looking over you xx

P.s Thanks for the comment Bambi

me, says...
3:54pm Thu 7 Aug 08

So where else do you know thats close to the general hospital where helicopters land then?

St. Ray, St. Elsewhere says...
4:09pm Thu 7 Aug 08

The Star Chamber wrote:
Place a sniper on the chopper to shoot the scum. Job done. Or is this just warming us up to placing the new helipad on top of the new childrens block at the General?
Better still, bring in an Apache gunship mto wipe out the scumbag filth from the Lordswood/Lordshill area. Save a fortune on benefit payouts & reduce the number of ASBO's in one fell swoop

Rock and roll, says...
4:15pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Lynne, Chandlers Ford on 3:47pm today
Without even reading as far as to find out what area it was in that the the Air Ambulance was having trouble landing at i kind of guessed and 'yes' how right was my guess. Only low-life from the areas of Lordshill, Millbrook & Redbridge could be caught up in something like this. My mind boggle's as to what's going to be the next Headline from these areas. Trouble is now there is so much trash in this country from kids having kids and couldn't care how their brought up that it's so much out of hand i don't think anyone can put it right. No wonder more people emigrated last year than any other year. Unfortunately it will eventually be all the descent folk going and we're be left with all the trash of society. What a future i hope that maybe i won't be around here by that time either. Agree with the other too just let the Helicopter land and sod who's in the way.




Another clear minded woman, fed up with the trash that has destroyed her society.

No excuses for the parents, no blaming the teachers, no blaming anyone but the kids that have kids.

Spot on!


Rock and roll, says...
4:18pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Please smash my face in, otherwise I'll never shut up

sputnik, soton says...
4:53pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Rock and roll wrote:
Oh, I just hid behind the Internet and it was easy. Just like you
Ouch again!! You are a real hard nut to crack. Your wit and sharp words are too much. I give up!!!
I started off this rock and troll by imagining what type of person you are. from the vile responses i must have been right. my children grew up with good values as do 99% of kids no matter where they live. It is people like you i worry about and thank christ you do not have a family. stick to staying and watching cops on camera etc. and try not to repeat the language you hear on such programmes.

Laura Baker, Southampton says...
5:30pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Am I the only one thinking that if these kids are given a warning and still dont move they should have to pay the price of not moving from the site. Im sure they will be begging for air ambulance once they have had a limb or two taken off by the helicopter blades!

Lynne, C/Ford says...
5:39pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Rock and roll wrote:
Lynne, Chandlers Ford on 3:47pm today Without even reading as far as to find out what area it was in that the the Air Ambulance was having trouble landing at i kind of guessed and 'yes' how right was my guess. Only low-life from the areas of Lordshill, Millbrook & Redbridge could be caught up in something like this. My mind boggle's as to what's going to be the next Headline from these areas. Trouble is now there is so much trash in this country from kids having kids and couldn't care how their brought up that it's so much out of hand i don't think anyone can put it right. No wonder more people emigrated last year than any other year. Unfortunately it will eventually be all the descent folk going and we're be left with all the trash of society. What a future i hope that maybe i won't be around here by that time either. Agree with the other too just let the Helicopter land and sod who's in the way.
Another clear minded woman, fed up with the trash that has destroyed her society. No excuses for the parents, no blaming the teachers, no blaming anyone but the kids that have kids. Spot on!
There are many of us out here that feel the same. I'm afraid we all have one, two, three and so on families living somewhere within our community. Unfortuantely Millbrook etc have more than else where. As long as the kids are not under their parents feet the parents couldn't care less where they are let alone what their doing. As long as there all happy claiming their benefits (most of that fraud) smoking their pot and drinking their booze thentheir in there own little happy lazy world. To hell with the rest of us out there working and paying our taxes to keep them in comfort Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhh

c, says...
6:21pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Alright rock and roll for gods sake, you made your point, we all know how you feel, so how about shutting it now you sad twisted man.

sotonian, southampton says...
6:38pm Thu 7 Aug 08

ydkjs2 wrote:
I have lived out of the country for many years so please excuse my ignorance on some aspects of life in Southampton in the year 2008. I read the Echo every morning but I find the news articles more depressing every day and so I am considering stopping this ritual. But, I feel I must comment on this article. How old are these 'children'? Surely there must be at least one responsible person around to put an end to their criminal behavior? I do not understand why the police cannot be there when a helicopter is coming in to land to arrest the little thugs. How about then they could either require the parents and/or the miscreants work (no pay of course) in the morgue to see what happens when they deliberatly withold urgent medical care. Finally, what is a "chav" and what is "tombstoning"?
you aren't Finlay from Iowa using a pseodonym are you?

kenneth, says...
7:15pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Rock and roll wrote:
Lynne, C/Ford on 5:39pm today
Rock and roll wrote:
Lynne, Chandlers Ford on 3:47pm today Without even reading as far as to find out what area it was in that the the Air Ambulance was having trouble landing at i kind of guessed and 'yes' how right was my guess. Only low-life from the areas of Lordshill, Millbrook & Redbridge could be caught up in something like this. My mind boggle's as to what's going to be the next Headline from these areas. Trouble is now there is so much trash in this country from kids having kids and couldn't care how their brought up that it's so much out of hand i don't think anyone can put it right. No wonder more people emigrated last year than any other year. Unfortunately it will eventually be all the descent folk going and we're be left with all the trash of society. What a future i hope that maybe i won't be around here by that time either. Agree with the other too just let the Helicopter land and sod who's in the way.
Another clear minded woman, fed up with the trash that has destroyed her society. No excuses for the parents, no blaming the teachers, no blaming anyone but the kids that have kids. Spot on!
There are many of us out here that feel the same. I'm afraid we all have one, two, three and so on families living somewhere within our community. Unfortuantely Millbrook etc have more than else where. As long as the kids are not under their parents feet the parents couldn't care less where they are let alone what their doing. As long as there all happy claiming their benefits (most of that fraud) smoking their pot and drinking their booze thentheir in there own little happy lazy world. To hell with the rest of us out there working and paying our taxes to keep them in comfort Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh



Sublime.

A real woman, with more guts than most of the so called men on this site, who look for excuses for the lowlife vermin infesting our lives.

Yeh it takes real guts to continually post your opinions anonymously on the Internet, doesn't it

PAUL B, says...
7:33pm Thu 7 Aug 08

I DIG HUNG DUDES

James, Southampton says...
7:55pm Thu 7 Aug 08


Ooops sorry...

Simple really - fence off the area where the heli needs to land, with CCTV attached nearby to catch the little loves on camera.

Identify them, find their parent(s), fine them or stop the parent's benefits.

That should sort the issue - don't rely on the police, how can they charge a 14yr old Chav anyway?


Surly if the ill Patient dies its manslaughter on part of the Group of youths as it is important for the Helicopter land and every moment counts, If the helicopter is delayed 30 minutes then its not the Ambulance crews fault.
Sorry if that doesnt make any sense!

Patron, Soton says...
8:14pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Shoot the little chav **** then their Irresponsible parents problem sorted.

Rock and roll, says...
8:17pm Thu 7 Aug 08

I'm sorry everyone. It's just that my parents raised me as a girl, and I have difficulty relating to other human beings. Just ignore me, I'm wearing panties anyway

Lynne, C/Ford says...
8:38pm Thu 7 Aug 08

How you have the nerve (Kenneth) to call him an angry little man. Open your eyes or wipe the crap from them and your mouth at the same time. Look at the likes of who you defend then again like you say it's guttsy saying whilst on the internet 'innit'

c, says...
8:38pm Thu 7 Aug 08

kenneth wrote:
Rock and roll wrote:
kenneth on 7:15pm today
Rock and roll wrote:
Lynne, C/Ford on 5:39pm today
Rock and roll wrote:
Lynne, Chandlers Ford on 3:47pm today Without even reading as far as to find out what area it was in that the the Air Ambulance was having trouble landing at i kind of guessed and 'yes' how right was my guess. Only low-life from the areas of Lordshill, Millbrook & Redbridge could be caught up in something like this. My mind boggle's as to what's going to be the next Headline from these areas. Trouble is now there is so much trash in this country from kids having kids and couldn't care how their brought up that it's so much out of hand i don't think anyone can put it right. No wonder more people emigrated last year than any other year. Unfortunately it will eventually be all the descent folk going and we're be left with all the trash of society. What a future i hope that maybe i won't be around here by that time either. Agree with the other too just let the Helicopter land and sod who's in the way.
Another clear minded woman, fed up with the trash that has destroyed her society. No excuses for the parents, no blaming the teachers, no blaming anyone but the kids that have kids. Spot on!
There are many of us out here that feel the same. I'm afraid we all have one, two, three and so on families living somewhere within our community. Unfortuantely Millbrook etc have more than else where. As long as the kids are not under their parents feet the parents couldn't care less where they are let alone what their doing. As long as there all happy claiming their benefits (most of that fraud) smoking their pot and drinking their booze thentheir in there own little happy lazy world. To hell with the rest of us out there working and paying our taxes to keep them in comfort Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh
Sublime. A real woman, with more guts than most of the so called men on this site, who look for excuses for the lowlife vermin infesting our lives.
Yeh it takes real guts to continually post your opinions anonymously on the Internet, doesn't it




Ooooh, i think we've hit kenny the ****'s problem.

He struggles to cope with women that are stronger willed than him.

Get over it sunshine. There are women out there, that have been dealing with limp dicks like you for years.

Just remember this, if you think for one second, appeasing the young filth that infect the ghettos of this town, holds any weight with REAL women that have the gumption to stand up to them, you may aswell go home and lock the door of your hen-pecked existence and lose the key.

Another genius who thinks he can tell something about someone from a couple of posts on the Internet. Just what the world needs. Ever heard of projection? You sure do it a lot. Go get laid, for the sake of your health, you angry little man
Kenneth dont bother with this troll, he is a nasty piece of work believe me he is the scum of the earth, dont entertain him.

c, says...
8:44pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Lynne your only sticking up for him cos he was the only one who agreed with your comments, you sad cow, what and you think chandlers ford is a nice neighbourhood, think again.

kenneth, says...
8:44pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Lynne wrote:
How you have the nerve (Kenneth) to call him an angry little man. Open your eyes or wipe the crap from them and your mouth at the same time. Look at the likes of who you defend then again like you say it's guttsy saying whilst on the internet 'innit'
Well, his every post is filled with hatred and anger, it's not really much of a leap to call him an angry little man "Lynne". He's all over the boards today, shouting and wailing and stamping his feet. Like an angry little man

kenneth, says...
8:49pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Lynne wrote:
How you have the nerve (Kenneth) to call him an angry little man. Open your eyes or wipe the crap from them and your mouth at the same time. Look at the likes of who you defend then again like you say it's guttsy saying whilst on the internet 'innit'
And I'll ask you, just like I asked your boyfriend: where have I defended them? Just because numb-nuts sais it happened, doesn't mean it did. Try new "thinking for yourself" you daft bint, rather than blindly siding with the first man who sides with your sorry, saggy @rse

Strong women! Pah! Easily swayed women you mean. Silly cow

c, says...
8:51pm Thu 7 Aug 08

P M S L

Rocket, Southampton says...
8:56pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Easy way out of this argument between the so called adults out there, if you got kids bring them up right, if you cant then let the helicopter fly upside down and take the little TW**'S Heads Off, bloody Vermin

Miss E, Southampton says...
8:58pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Apparently as the rugby team were training tonight the air ambulance came in supported with a heavy police presence and the helicopter landed with no problems. It's nice to see the police took note of the problem and did something about it.

c, says...
9:00pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Oh yeah and a helicopter can fly upside down can it? idiot.

Lynne, C/Ford says...
9:03pm Thu 7 Aug 08

kenneth wrote:
Lynne wrote: How you have the nerve (Kenneth) to call him an angry little man. Open your eyes or wipe the crap from them and your mouth at the same time. Look at the likes of who you defend then again like you say it's guttsy saying whilst on the internet 'innit'
And I'll ask you, just like I asked your boyfriend: where have I defended them? Just because numb-nuts sais it happened, doesn't mean it did. Try new "thinking for yourself" you daft bint, rather than blindly siding with the first man who sides with your sorry, saggy @rse Strong women! Pah! Easily swayed women you mean. Silly cow
Says the so called P***k Oops man who has very little going for him by the sounds of it. You couldn't be more wrong on your judgement of me, i am infact happily married for the last 18 years and yes to the same man. We have both worked hard doing unsociable hours never claimed a benefit in our lives so to have to stand by and see and listen to the low-lives of this world as well as help keep them. that's why my opioions are strong not because i've been swayed. If you remember reading my first post of today you will see i expressed my own views. Or are you too doped up or drunk to remember. Also i have a purt bottom from probably working hard and not stuffing my face with junk food and takeaways everyday of the week because i can be bothered to get off my a**e and work.

Watching with interest, says...
9:11pm Thu 7 Aug 08

kenneth on 8:49pm today
Lynne wrote: How you have the nerve (Kenneth) to call him an angry little man. Open your eyes or wipe the crap from them and your mouth at the same time. Look at the likes of who you defend then again like you say it's guttsy saying whilst on the internet 'innit'
And I'll ask you, just like I asked your boyfriend: where have I defended them? Just because numb-nuts sais it happened, doesn't mean it did. Try new "thinking for yourself" you daft bint, rather than blindly siding with the first man who sides with your sorry, saggy @rse Strong women! Pah! Easily swayed women you mean. Silly cow






Purely from a onlooker view. It seems clear that rockandroll has outed kenneths fear of a strong woman.

kenneth previously wrote;

" Another genius who thinks he can tell something about someone from a couple of posts on the Internet. Just what the world needs".

kenneth then wrote to Lynne;

" Try new "thinking for yourself" you daft bint, rather than blindly siding with the first man who sides with your sorry, saggy @rse"

and;

"Strong women! Pah! Easily swayed women you mean. Silly cow".


Now i think it is safe to say you have done exactly what you accused rockandroll of.


You really do have a problem with women it seems kenneth. Is the little man syndrome eating away by any chance???

No need to answer, though maybe an apology to Lynne for the vile attack could in a small way help with your rehabilitation.

Rocket, Southampton says...
9:25pm Thu 7 Aug 08

c wrote:
Oh yeah and a helicopter can fly upside down can it? idiot.
Well i just wasn't thinking straight, Vietnam & all that, Saw a few upside down there mate, how about we shoot the Vermin instead???

c, says...
9:37pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Lynne wrote:
kenneth wrote:
Lynne wrote: How you have the nerve (Kenneth) to call him an angry little man. Open your eyes or wipe the crap from them and your mouth at the same time. Look at the likes of who you defend then again like you say it's guttsy saying whilst on the internet 'innit'
And I'll ask you, just like I asked your boyfriend: where have I defended them? Just because numb-nuts sais it happened, doesn't mean it did. Try new "thinking for yourself" you daft bint, rather than blindly siding with the first man who sides with your sorry, saggy @rse Strong women! Pah! Easily swayed women you mean. Silly cow
Says the so called P***k Oops man who has very little going for him by the sounds of it. You couldn't be more wrong on your judgement of me, i am infact happily married for the last 18 years and yes to the same man. We have both worked hard doing unsociable hours never claimed a benefit in our lives so to have to stand by and see and listen to the low-lives of this world as well as help keep them. that's why my opioions are strong not because i've been swayed. If you remember reading my first post of today you will see i expressed my own views. Or are you too doped up or drunk to remember. Also i have a purt bottom from probably working hard and not stuffing my face with junk food and takeaways everyday of the week because i can be bothered to get off my a**e and work.
lynne i have been happily married for the last 23 years and claimed no benefits, you have got your head so stuck up your **** your not prepared to see anybody elses side of the story, you think they are scum no matter what,get real. dont stick with people like rock and roll just cos they agree with your comments, dont make them right.

Rock and roll, says...
9:50pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Lynne has more get up and go in her, than any of the spineless puke, which systematically back up the sc"m of this city.

Why is it you can't stand a woman that has strength, it kills you to think she actually despises this filth.

She's obviously a working woman with GOOD values. Get over it, you sad tosspots.

c, says...
9:57pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Oh **** off rock and roll when have you ever stuck up for a woman? only when she agreed with you, i have been on the recieving end of your comments so dont play the angel with me you moron, you have a hate for women prob cos you cant gat one you freak.

****&bull, uplynnesarse says...
10:05pm Thu 7 Aug 08

So Rock and Roll's eacaped from the attic yet again! I apologise for his abuse, he doesn't understand the real worl having been kept from it so long. You must understand, when his mum dad/brother and sister caught him ages five with his two year old sister in what we shall refer to as, well, an uncomfortable picture, we found it best to keep him isolated.
wE can all guess what good old Lynne looks like, a troll would be too fine a name. You know she's got a saggy arse, anyone with a view point like her's is a world away from real work.
Rock and Roll is her fantasy man! If she works so hard why is she commenting throughout the day?
As for watching with intersest. NOB.
So obvious, didn't pick up the contradictions of his heroes.
One and the same, Lynne, Rock and Roll and old numb nuts.
As Loyd Grossman would say, "lets have a look at the evidence".
Rock and Roll has been kept away from society for along time, apart from his brief escapes, so has a deluded view of the world. Lynne claims to have been married 18 years. Now she claims to agree with old **** head, yet as the majority who comment, whether they agree with his claims or not, accept rock and roll is deffo without a partner. Therefore Lynne is unlikely to have been with someone for 18 years. And if they were so lucky, someone so distorted would be like a prune and therefore wouldn't have the pert arse she proclaims to have.
Rock and Roll, whether male or female, you're a psychologists wet dream. Ogling kiddies in their swimming costumes and flitting between being a man and a woman is the least of your worries.
I implore the public to have some pity, his homelife is messed up to say the least, his parents are his mother, auntie, sister, brother father, uncle. It's all rather complicated, So please, if you can find it in your heart, forgive him.
Get back in the attic, here's some more fish heads.

Gerry, says...
10:11pm Thu 7 Aug 08

The comments on here prove exactly what is wrong with our society.

The complete lack of respect shown everyday on here is matched in real life by these "low-lifes"

limpwrist gerry, aselfrightiousmind says...
10:18pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Hey Gerry
And to make matters worse you've got some patronising prat judging everyone else thinking he's amlitle better.
That's what's wrong with society, nay answers.

Rocket, Southampton says...
10:27pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Gerry wrote:
The comments on here prove exactly what is wrong with our society. The complete lack of respect shown everyday on here is matched in real life by these "low-lifes"
Totaly agree, Nice one Gerry, obviously a man with a good upbringing & a clear concience & respect for people, but we still need to clean our streets of the VERMIN that are out there day & night intimidating law abiding workers & tax payers who are funding their every day weekends, I rest my case. Still agree with you though Gerry.

Quite frankly...., Orbiting Planet Idiot says...
10:45pm Thu 7 Aug 08

What an anthropologist's dream this thread is.

Dave, Coxford says...
12:25am Fri 8 Aug 08

Andy pandy wrote:
3 points here, Surely as air ambulance was introduced some time ago thought should of been put in place as to the best place as to where it is to land, coupled with the increasing desire for all to drive cars .. the obvious place has to be in the hospital grounds, as stated before, the car park is far too small and too low, so extend up top floor to make a heliport. This needs to be done, so get on with it, you can charge the disabled too that would pay for it ! In the mean time over the road there is a lot of open green space called Holybrook cemy! Now come on surely there is enough space there to land? And while were thinking of improving things Coxford Road crosses the M27 at Chilworth, it\\\'s a private Road, why is this not an Ambulance access road to the M27? to save the long slow rush though congested Roads? while were about it, clear Shirley high street of clutter too, and let all traffic flow! Seeing an ambulance try and drive up here is unpleasant as drivers cant get out of the way due to the clutter.
Coxford road crosses the M27 at Chilworth study your Maps idiot

Lowe and behold, St Marys hotseat says...
2:51am Fri 8 Aug 08

Same old fu*k heads sticking up for the gutless scum!
C u next tuesday (butch les*o) Kenneth the lazy pi** smelling non*e. And spu*kpri*k take it out of Ken Dodds a** you dirty shirt lifter

Lowe and behold, St Marys hotseat says...
2:56am Fri 8 Aug 08

Rock and roll wrote:
Lynne has more get up and go in her, than any of the spineless puke, which systematically back up the sc"m of this city. Why is it you can't stand a woman that has strength, it kills you to think she actually despises this filth. She's obviously a working woman with GOOD values. Get over it, you sad tosspots.
Fair play to Lynne the pr*cks who dont like our comments can go back to suc*in each other off. ROCK AND ROLL KEEP PI**ING THESE WAN*ERS OFF THEY DESERVE IT BUNCH OF C U NEXT TUESDAYS

Robert, says...
4:49am Fri 8 Aug 08

Let nature take its course, so the yobs who are too thick to move out of the way get detached from their heads. Over time, a good Darwinian solution.

kenneth, says...
8:19am Fri 8 Aug 08

:-) you people do like to get your knickers in a twist, eh! For the record, the "real" kenneth disappeared god knows when. Lynne, Rock & roll, Lowe and behold, you've been shouting at a ghost

Too easy. Far too easy. Some people are so determined to be p!ssed off at something, they fail to spot when they're being trolled

Rock & roll, all I had to do was post the opposite of whatever you said, and your anger increased exponentially. I really, truly, suggest you get therapy for your rage. It ain't healthy. Like I said, an angry little man

truth be told...., says...
8:34am Fri 8 Aug 08

Quite frankly.... wrote:
What an anthropologist's dream this thread is.
What an an anthropophagist's dream your post is

Gilly, says...
8:46am Fri 8 Aug 08

I think you'll find rock and roll lives for this site, hence, angry or not he's played you like a harp! What seems strange is, the many who knock his views, tend to be the same ones that tolerate society today, with all it's nasty youth and parents with no control. He is angry, he has a problem, but when you have people that refuse to stand up to the evil that is rife in todays world, i would take the person that took the fight to the problem, over the weak pansies you find on here any day. If you have used a previous name to gain a reaction, i find it sad that you needed to hide behind another poster, to throw abuse at a woman. Maybe the taunts of you being gutless are not too far short of the mark.

Meggsy, Southampton says...
8:57am Fri 8 Aug 08

Why don't they video them & play on local TV news so the parents, family & friends & can see them endangering lives.

kenneth, says...
9:29am Fri 8 Aug 08

Gilly wrote:
I think you'll find rock and roll lives for this site, hence, angry or not he's played you like a harp! What seems strange is, the many who knock his views, tend to be the same ones that tolerate society today, with all it's nasty youth and parents with no control. He is angry, he has a problem, but when you have people that refuse to stand up to the evil that is rife in todays world, i would take the person that took the fight to the problem, over the weak pansies you find on here any day. If you have used a previous name to gain a reaction, i find it sad that you needed to hide behind another poster, to throw abuse at a woman. Maybe the taunts of you being gutless are not too far short of the mark.
A boring and predictable response. I actually share R & R's views, I just don't agree with the way he presents them: being abusive of anyone who he even thinks might disagree with him, that's not very rational. If you read up, you won't see any posts from either me or the "real" kenneth, defending these ambulance-stopping morons. That doesn't stop old R & R inventing that opinion in me/us anyway, and the rest of the contingent just swallow it whole. The entire argument was based on something that nobody actually said, but nobody bothered to check the facts first, so eager were they to have yet another fight on the Internet

You can say what you want about me, you are just another of those "I cannot bear this person, ergo I will invent all manner of shortcomings in them" types. I could turn out to be Christ himself, you'd still have a negative opinion of my character, despite knowing nothing about me. That's sad, my friend. That's sad

Gilly, says...
10:33am Fri 8 Aug 08

Fight fire with fire, i say. The thugs that rock and roll, so despises, thrive off the fact our government has failed to act. If you agree with his views, as i have on many occassions, you may realise his anger is aimed not only at the thugs and their parents, but equally at the lack of a strong government. I've noticed previously, he has backed the police force and their lack of poilitical support, he also fights for the underdog. Yes he fights, yes he's angry as said previously, but i can honestly say, i believe this country needs people that can vent anger to change policy. I have been a reader on the echo forum for a long time and watched with anticipation for his reaction to sleaze, non stories and general behaviour in our city. I can say with the exceptions of a few posts, he hits the nail on the head. Unorthodox, in his temperment, but people are fed up with weakness in a system that should be there to protect them. I have not come on here to argue with anyone, but i feel a fair judgement should be made about readers and writers that see an ever declining society. Compromise has not worked with the lowlife members of society. They've had hand outs, bribes to go back to work, retraining and free education programs, all off the back of us tax payers. This has not and will not work. Maybe it is time to get tough, to isolate them from the working society does not sound good, but most of these people will never change. I will always back the side of right over wrong, whether the beliefs are aggressive or not.

kenneth, says...
11:13am Fri 8 Aug 08

Gilly wrote:
Fight fire with fire, i say. The thugs that rock and roll, so despises, thrive off the fact our government has failed to act. If you agree with his views, as i have on many occassions, you may realise his anger is aimed not only at the thugs and their parents, but equally at the lack of a strong government. I've noticed previously, he has backed the police force and their lack of poilitical support, he also fights for the underdog. Yes he fights, yes he's angry as said previously, but i can honestly say, i believe this country needs people that can vent anger to change policy. I have been a reader on the echo forum for a long time and watched with anticipation for his reaction to sleaze, non stories and general behaviour in our city. I can say with the exceptions of a few posts, he hits the nail on the head. Unorthodox, in his temperment, but people are fed up with weakness in a system that should be there to protect them. I have not come on here to argue with anyone, but i feel a fair judgement should be made about readers and writers that see an ever declining society. Compromise has not worked with the lowlife members of society. They've had hand outs, bribes to go back to work, retraining and free education programs, all off the back of us tax payers. This has not and will not work. Maybe it is time to get tough, to isolate them from the working society does not sound good, but most of these people will never change. I will always back the side of right over wrong, whether the beliefs are aggressive or not.
All well and good, in intent. But what will fighting with strangers on the Internet achieve? Nothing. He's wasting his time. He's worse than apathetic, since he believes he's doing something about the issues, which he isn't. And you're instilling further that belief that his online tantrums are worthwhile. Nothing will change as a result of his tirades here

Gilly, says...
2:16pm Fri 8 Aug 08

Your comment suggests that he is doing nothing outside of this forum, so again, it seems you are contradicting yourself.

kenneth, says...
2:52pm Fri 8 Aug 08

Gilly wrote:
Your comment suggests that he is doing nothing outside of this forum, so again, it seems you are contradicting yourself.
What's with you guys and the endless non sequiturs? Ok, I'll join in the fun.

Your comment didn't contain the word "banana" so it seems you wear ladies underwear on your head. Simple, innit?

What evidence do you have that he's doing anything outside of this forum, and how have I contradicted myself? Try and make it logical, rather than just another load of made-up nonsense

Anon, Southampton says...
4:31pm Fri 8 Aug 08

Just get in some kind of surveilance team to identify the culprits when they cause problems and then cancel any free NHS healthcare they receive, benefits, education, etc.

They clearly don't deserve to be looked after by our social security system and don't respect society.

Busdriver, Fareham says...
11:03pm Fri 8 Aug 08

Solution is to fit the air ambulance with reinforced, sharpened rotor blades.

(idea by "Depresion" on uk.transport... and I like it!)

bob, t'internet says...
10:48am Sat 9 Aug 08

Dave wrote:
Future MP wrote:
clair wrote: On reading the above I can vouch for the rest of the country why there are so many drop-outs and the governing sector feel they are top of the pile of thicko\'s. Take off your masks of brain drains and start to think how serious this is all becoming - we need your constructive ideas not your \'no hoper ideas\'. clair
Ooops sorry... Simple really - fence off the area where the heli needs to land, with CCTV attached nearby to catch the little loves on camera. Identify them, find their parent(s), fine them or stop the parent\'s benefits. That should sort the issue - don\'t rely on the police, how can they charge a 14yr old Chav anyway?
Fire service are usually there when the helicopter arrives why don\'t they use their water jets to disperse the idiots
no they're not

18male, Southampton says...
6:47pm Mon 11 Aug 08

Wonders if any of you have been over the 5acre's when the helicopter Lands.
There is usually an Ambulance Crew awaiting the Hampshire/IOW Helicopter. Nothing else.
When the RAF Coastguard comes in there is usually a quick Response and an emergencey amubulance.
Iv been over there a Few times and if the ambulance crew dont ask the yobbo's to move hey ten to do it anyway.
It seems they dont like to be confronted so when there asked they see it as a challenege to push there luck for as long as possible. If the Helicopter was to decend i Garentee the silly idiots will move. If not the amublance crew should call the police when they realise the Yobs are over there , Because the ambulance crew are sat over there more or less 25 minutes before the Helicopter Arrives .

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