thieves

Spellchecker wrote:
thieves

Why are you posting random words?

Paul B

chairs

Does anybody ever leave any valuable items in their beach huts?

I wish that the odd person might leave their American Pit Bull Terrier overnight and that the thieving scum get their gonads ripped off.

Thank you for rectifying your error.

When we are informed that 11year olds in Southampton have the worst SATS results in the whole country, doesn't the spelling of 'thieves' pale into insignificance?

True Blue wrote:
When we are informed that 11year olds in Southampton have the worst SATS results in the whole country, doesn't the spelling of 'thieves' pale into insignificance?

No, it just goes to prove the Echo gives them summer jobs

As a beach hut owner at calshot who has had his property damaged many times i feel qualified to comment on this.
It makes your blood boil when you see what has happened to your hut but there is also another side to this.
The kids who are placed in council/ housing association accomodation at Calshot are bored out of their minds. There is absolutely nothing for them to do. No playground, football pitch, youth club...there's not even a shop anymore.
None of this justifies the vandalism but surely it's inevitable if you don't offer them an alternative way of having fun and seeking thrills. They have an incredible sports facility on their doorstep (Calshot Activities Centre) but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to let them use it often.
Maybe if the kids felt that society cared enough to give them a playing field then they may not be quite so angry and destructive.
Before anyone starts off on the 'i didnt vandalize in my day'lecture...do you honestly know what your kid's are up to when they are out?

Well..... wrote:

True Blue wrote: When we are informed that 11year olds in Southampton have the worst SATS results in the whole country, doesn't the spelling of 'thieves' pale into insignificance?

No, it just goes to prove the Echo gives them summer jobs

I guess that the Editor must also be a 'graduate' from the area and had the same English teacher.

Beach Hut Owner wrote:
As a beach hut owner at calshot who has had his property damaged many times i feel qualified to comment on this. It makes your blood boil when you see what has happened to your hut but there is also another side to this. The kids who are placed in council/ housing association accomodation at Calshot are bored out of their minds. There is absolutely nothing for them to do. No playground, football pitch, youth club...there's not even a shop anymore. None of this justifies the vandalism but surely it's inevitable if you don't offer them an alternative way of having fun and seeking thrills. They have an incredible sports facility on their doorstep (Calshot Activities Centre) but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to let them use it often. Maybe if the kids felt that society cared enough to give them a playing field then they may not be quite so angry and destructive. Before anyone starts off on the 'i didnt vandalize in my day'lecture...do you honestly know what your kid's are up to when they are out?

Having been born and brought up in the area, I can identify with what you say. The open spaces I played on, or where I climbed trees have long since been either desecrated in the excavation of gravel, tarmac/concreted over or built on.
As kids don't have a vote, they are last in the pecking order when it comes to providing facilities, and then we wonder why there is this problem. The problem was highlighted when the foreign seaman lost his life in Fawley, thanks to local yobs, and while the authorities expressed their shock and horror, there is little evidence that any lessons have been learned.
You ask whether parents know where their children are. Mind rarely knew where I was, but in those days, there was a community, and if I was having a crafty cigarette with my mates, my parents seemed to know before I had even reached home, and we had no phone!

Beach Hut Owner wrote:
As a beach hut owner at calshot who has had his property damaged many times i feel qualified to comment on this. It makes your blood boil when you see what has happened to your hut but there is also another side to this. The kids who are placed in council/ housing association accomodation at Calshot are bored out of their minds. There is absolutely nothing for them to do. No playground, football pitch, youth club...there's not even a shop anymore. None of this justifies the vandalism but surely it's inevitable if you don't offer them an alternative way of having fun and seeking thrills. They have an incredible sports facility on their doorstep (Calshot Activities Centre) but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to let them use it often. Maybe if the kids felt that society cared enough to give them a playing field then they may not be quite so angry and destructive. Before anyone starts off on the 'i didnt vandalize in my day'lecture...do you honestly know what your kid's are up to when they are out?

In my area we campaigned for years to turn a patch of waste ground into a play area. After years of campaigning and months of work, the little darlings wrecked it within weeks.
The problem in a nutshell is a total lack of respect.

Concerned Parent wrote:

Beach Hut Owner wrote: As a beach hut owner at calshot who has had his property damaged many times i feel qualified to comment on this. It makes your blood boil when you see what has happened to your hut but there is also another side to this. The kids who are placed in council/ housing association accomodation at Calshot are bored out of their minds. There is absolutely nothing for them to do. No playground, football pitch, youth club...there's not even a shop anymore. None of this justifies the vandalism but surely it's inevitable if you don't offer them an alternative way of having fun and seeking thrills. They have an incredible sports facility on their doorstep (Calshot Activities Centre) but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to let them use it often. Maybe if the kids felt that society cared enough to give them a playing field then they may not be quite so angry and destructive. Before anyone starts off on the 'i didnt vandalize in my day'lecture...do you honestly know what your kid's are up to when they are out?

In my area we campaigned for years to turn a patch of waste ground into a play area. After years of campaigning and months of work, the little darlings wrecked it within weeks. The problem in a nutshell is a total lack of respect.

But where does that lack of respect come from?
It comes from us as parents letting our children get away with too much.Backing up our little Johnny rather than the teacher. Telling the Police that our little Johnny wouldnt do such a thing. Spending 100s £s on our kids at xmas and birthdays.Turning a blind eye to their far too regular under age drinking etc
It's no good blaming the kids, a baby hasn't much of a concept of anything,it learns from it's surroundings.This lack of respect is something that society has taught our kids.
WE are society and if it's falling to pieces it's because WE have allowed it. WE have allowed ourselves to be lead by weak politicians...the list goes on and on.
But what do we do about it? Sod all!
We go to work and moan about it to each other on tea breaks.
If one of your workmates decided to take a day off and go to London on a rally and campaign against all the above, would you go?
Nope, most of us wouldn't bother, we would just snipe behind their backs about them being naive to think it will change anything.
Personally i think we, as a society, have got just what we deserve... and i'm as bad as the rest of you.
When are we going to stand up and say 'enough is enough'?
Answers on a postcard please to:-
The Ho Hum, Oh Well Never Mind Eh, Lets Just Have A Nice Cup Of Tea Society
123 Cant Be @rsed Street
Apathy on Sea
Someoneelsesfaultshi
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UK

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True Blue wrote:

Well..... wrote:

True Blue wrote: When we are informed that 11year olds in Southampton have the worst SATS results in the whole country, doesn't the spelling of 'thieves' pale into insignificance?

No, it just goes to prove the Echo gives them summer jobs

I guess that the Editor must also be a 'graduate' from the area and had the same English teacher.

These poor performing 11 Year olds are being sent to Fratton Park on a Saturday.
This is to teach them that no matter how dense they are, there are always 17000 worse off.

Sceptic wrote:

Concerned Parent wrote:

Beach Hut Owner wrote: As a beach hut owner at calshot who has had his property damaged many times i feel qualified to comment on this. It makes your blood boil when you see what has happened to your hut but there is also another side to this. The kids who are placed in council/ housing association accomodation at Calshot are bored out of their minds. There is absolutely nothing for them to do. No playground, football pitch, youth club...there's not even a shop anymore. None of this justifies the vandalism but surely it's inevitable if you don't offer them an alternative way of having fun and seeking thrills. They have an incredible sports facility on their doorstep (Calshot Activities Centre) but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to let them use it often. Maybe if the kids felt that society cared enough to give them a playing field then they may not be quite so angry and destructive. Before anyone starts off on the 'i didnt vandalize in my day'lecture...do you honestly know what your kid's are up to when they are out?

In my area we campaigned for years to turn a patch of waste ground into a play area. After years of campaigning and months of work, the little darlings wrecked it within weeks. The problem in a nutshell is a total lack of respect.

But where does that lack of respect come from? It comes from us as parents letting our children get away with too much.Backing up our little Johnny rather than the teacher. Telling the Police that our little Johnny wouldnt do such a thing. Spending 100s £s on our kids at xmas and birthdays.Turning a blind eye to their far too regular under age drinking etc It's no good blaming the kids, a baby hasn't much of a concept of anything,it learns from it's surroundings.This lack of respect is something that society has taught our kids. WE are society and if it's falling to pieces it's because WE have allowed it. WE have allowed ourselves to be lead by weak politicians...the list goes on and on. But what do we do about it? Sod all! We go to work and moan about it to each other on tea breaks. If one of your workmates decided to take a day off and go to London on a rally and campaign against all the above, would you go? Nope, most of us wouldn't bother, we would just snipe behind their backs about them being naive to think it will change anything. Personally i think we, as a society, have got just what we deserve... and i'm as bad as the rest of you. When are we going to stand up and say 'enough is enough'? Answers on a postcard please to:- The Ho Hum, Oh Well Never Mind Eh, Lets Just Have A Nice Cup Of Tea Society 123 Cant Be @rsed Street Apathy on Sea Someoneelsesfaultshi re UK

Some of that is true. But the MAJORITY of children do know the difference between right and wrong, however a MINORITY of people show no respect whatsoever.
To some extent I agree with the MP who said the Lad-Mag culture is part of the problem, also the TV programmes which seem to put the "cheeky" criminal on a pedestal and berate other characters as "do-gooders". This along with the bad-news bulletins from every corner of the planet, which makes crime and violence seem the norm.
This means that until changes are made at the highest level that sadly the Dennis the Menaces are always going to beat the Walter Softees.

Bring back discipline and they will learn respect.
Can these liberal do-gooders cannot see how there system has failed the country, whils the number of children being physically abused by their parents is actually rising.
The odd smack teaches far quicker than sitting down and trying to understand and work through the problem together, this makes it into a far bigger issue. Look at nature, if a Lion cub strays to far from the pride the Lioness gives it a whack to get it back in line, problem solved.
There will always be those that beat their child, but they will do this whatever the Law says, far better to work with the majority of people.

Beach Hut Owner wrote:
As a beach hut owner at calshot who has had his property damaged many times i feel qualified to comment on this. It makes your blood boil when you see what has happened to your hut but there is also another side to this. The kids who are placed in council/ housing association accomodation at Calshot are bored out of their minds. There is absolutely nothing for them to do. No playground, football pitch, youth club...there's not even a shop anymore. None of this justifies the vandalism but surely it's inevitable if you don't offer them an alternative way of having fun and seeking thrills. They have an incredible sports facility on their doorstep (Calshot Activities Centre) but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to let them use it often. Maybe if the kids felt that society cared enough to give them a playing field then they may not be quite so angry and destructive. Before anyone starts off on the 'i didnt vandalize in my day'lecture...do you honestly know what your kid's are up to when they are out?

Again, I seem to have missed the part of the story that said that it was kids involved. Or are we just leaping to conclusions again?

This has nothing to do with boredom. It's sheer bad-mindedness and lack of respect for people and their property.

Kids today have more to do than any of us did in the past - their own TV, DVDs, Computers, Games Consoles etc.

They need to be taught respect and responsibility.

No easy answers on that I'm afraid, but it needs to start in the home and unfortunately most of the kids that get in trouble do so because they have parents who are of the same ilk. So the spiral is ever downwards.

Beautiful speech Sceptic.

Anybody that spends so much money for a shed on piece of waste ground near a car park deserves what they get. If you havent got a good idea what to spend all your money on then maybe donating it to the local council to build facilities is a good idea.

Off with their heads!!!!

Doesn't Beach Hut Owner realise that there is also private housing in Calshot - children in those homes are subject to poor facilities with nothing to keep them occupied either - so why do you make out that it is Council House kids that are to blame for this destruction? Privately housed children are not angels. So before you make assumptions about people who live on council/housing authority estates think again - we are not bad apples, we are decent law abiding people.

James wrote:

True Blue wrote:

Well..... wrote:

True Blue wrote: When we are informed that 11year olds in Southampton have the worst SATS results in the whole country, doesn't the spelling of 'thieves' pale into insignificance?

No, it just goes to prove the Echo gives them summer jobs

I guess that the Editor must also be a 'graduate' from the area and had the same English teacher.

These poor performing 11 Year olds are being sent to Fratton Park on a Saturday. This is to teach them that no matter how dense they are, there are always 17000 worse off.

If these poor performing 11 year olds are being SENT to Fratton Park, I assume that they will be coming unsupervised, which is par for the course from where they originate. I guess that the reason for their poor results starts in being brought up with a total lack of supervision, by a parent who thinks that teachers should teach everything from table manners, right from wrong, respect for others as well as the basic three R's.
Still, if they are being sent to Fratton Park, they will see the benefits of being amongst winners rather than amongst losers.
They will then realise that going to SMS means going Dutch, but is no treat.

S Dali wrote:
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Cor I wish I was in charge of yobs, They would get boot camp, It would be a place where thay would not want to go back to.

anag wrote:
Cor I wish I was in charge of yobs, They would get boot camp, It would be a place where thay would not want to go back to.

OK! You've got the job, but you are not to take them for spelling lessons.