"I am angry at China's attempts to hijack the Olympic spirit"

At the end of the day China was awarded the games by a distinguished and honest panel of judges.

At least Mat was only detained for 3 hours - imagine what might have happened here or in the middle East.

It's a shame he doesn't put the same energy and dedication to sorting out the problems in his own country first. I hope he demonstrates against the London Olympics too as the spirit of the games is surely being used in the same way....this country is in a mess, is a joke and is slowly slipping into a dark hole but hey ho, we are holding the olympics. Woop Woop

Attention seeker.

Denzil wrote:
Attention seeker.

yes, you probably are.

I and wrote:
It's a shame he doesn't put the same energy and dedication to sorting out the problems in his own country first. I hope he demonstrates against the London Olympics too as the spirit of the games is surely being used in the same way....this country is in a mess, is a joke and is slowly slipping into a dark hole but hey ho, we are holding the olympics. Woop Woop

Perhaps you should focus more on what you are doing about what is going on in this country rather than someoene else who has put his money where his mouth is & paid to fly to China for something he believes in.

Ben Durrutti wrote:

I and wrote: It's a shame he doesn't put the same energy and dedication to sorting out the problems in his own country first. I hope he demonstrates against the London Olympics too as the spirit of the games is surely being used in the same way....this country is in a mess, is a joke and is slowly slipping into a dark hole but hey ho, we are holding the olympics. Woop Woop

Perhaps you should focus more on what you are doing about what is going on in this country rather than someoene else who has put his money where his mouth is & paid to fly to China for something he believes in.

didn't do him much good though did it? The money spent on flying to and straight back from China (which achieved absolutely nothing for his cause) could have been spent domestically and achieved a great deal more.

I have no problem with this guy and his beliefs, I happen to agree with the free Tibet issue but why tell everybody about flying out there, achieving nothing and getting sent back? Makes him look like an idiot.

I and I wrote:

Ben Durrutti wrote:

I and wrote: It\'s a shame he doesn\'t put the same energy and dedication to sorting out the problems in his own country first. I hope he demonstrates against the London Olympics too as the spirit of the games is surely being used in the same way....this country is in a mess, is a joke and is slowly slipping into a dark hole but hey ho, we are holding the olympics. Woop Woop

Perhaps you should focus more on what you are doing about what is going on in this country rather than someoene else who has put his money where his mouth is & paid to fly to China for something he believes in.

didn\'t do him much good though did it? The money spent on flying to and straight back from China (which achieved absolutely nothing for his cause) could have been spent domestically and achieved a great deal more. I have no problem with this guy and his beliefs, I happen to agree with the free Tibet issue but why tell everybody about flying out there, achieving nothing and getting sent back? Makes him look like an idiot.

And dumping tons of carbon into the atmosphere along the way! And even now he's wearing a "Beijing Games" Tshirt which supports the games!!. If he wanted to bring attention to Tibet why not a "Free Tibet" Tshirt?
Agree with Denzil, attention seeker

I and I wrote:

Ben Durrutti wrote:

I and wrote: It's a shame he doesn't put the same energy and dedication to sorting out the problems in his own country first. I hope he demonstrates against the London Olympics too as the spirit of the games is surely being used in the same way....this country is in a mess, is a joke and is slowly slipping into a dark hole but hey ho, we are holding the olympics. Woop Woop

Perhaps you should focus more on what you are doing about what is going on in this country rather than someoene else who has put his money where his mouth is & paid to fly to China for something he believes in.

didn't do him much good though did it? The money spent on flying to and straight back from China (which achieved absolutely nothing for his cause) could have been spent domestically and achieved a great deal more. I have no problem with this guy and his beliefs, I happen to agree with the free Tibet issue but why tell everybody about flying out there, achieving nothing and getting sent back? Makes him look like an idiot.

and a very environmentally unfriendly idiot, that'll pi** off his tree hugging Greenpeace buddies.

rich the stitch wrote:

I and I wrote:

Ben Durrutti wrote:

I and wrote: It's a shame he doesn't put the same energy and dedication to sorting out the problems in his own country first. I hope he demonstrates against the London Olympics too as the spirit of the games is surely being used in the same way....this country is in a mess, is a joke and is slowly slipping into a dark hole but hey ho, we are holding the olympics. Woop Woop

Perhaps you should focus more on what you are doing about what is going on in this country rather than someoene else who has put his money where his mouth is & paid to fly to China for something he believes in.

didn't do him much good though did it? The money spent on flying to and straight back from China (which achieved absolutely nothing for his cause) could have been spent domestically and achieved a great deal more. I have no problem with this guy and his beliefs, I happen to agree with the free Tibet issue but why tell everybody about flying out there, achieving nothing and getting sent back? Makes him look like an idiot.

and a very environmentally unfriendly idiot, that'll pi** off his tree hugging Greenpeace buddies.

lol, agreed

rich the stitch wrote:

I and I wrote:

Ben Durrutti wrote:

I and wrote: It\'s a shame he doesn\'t put the same energy and dedication to sorting out the problems in his own country first. I hope he demonstrates against the London Olympics too as the spirit of the games is surely being used in the same way....this country is in a mess, is a joke and is slowly slipping into a dark hole but hey ho, we are holding the olympics. Woop Woop

Perhaps you should focus more on what you are doing about what is going on in this country rather than someoene else who has put his money where his mouth is & paid to fly to China for something he believes in.

didn\'t do him much good though did it? The money spent on flying to and straight back from China (which achieved absolutely nothing for his cause) could have been spent domestically and achieved a great deal more. I have no problem with this guy and his beliefs, I happen to agree with the free Tibet issue but why tell everybody about flying out there, achieving nothing and getting sent back? Makes him look like an idiot.

and a very environmentally unfriendly idiot, that\'ll pi** off his tree hugging Greenpeace buddies.

Ummm...wow. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Mat was speaking out for people who couldn't speak out for themselves without getting shot. How can you miss the big picture so badly? And, btw, that t-shirt is designed to demonstrate how the Olympics is a facade designed to hide human rights abuses perpetuated by China. Note the handcuffs.

At least he tried to do something for the cause in which he believes. He may have failed in entering China, but the news coverage will provide some exposure to his cause, which is the violation of human rights in Tibet by so called communist regime of China.

Ummm...wow. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Mat was speaking out for people who couldn't speak out for themselves without getting shot. How can you miss the big picture so badly? And, btw, that t-shirt is designed to demonstrate how the Olympics is a facade designed to hide human rights abuses perpetuated by China. Note the handcuffs
Actually the big picture is China's human rights abuses to it's own citizens, not merely Tibet. The fact that the IOC awarded them the games at all and that our athletes have gone shows our governments are happy to turn a blind eye (again) - this is the big picture and where efforts like this should be addressed.
I did miss the handcuffs though - still think "Free Tibet" etc would be clearer

Miles Sway wrote:
Ummm...wow. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Mat was speaking out for people who couldn't speak out for themselves without getting shot. How can you miss the big picture so badly? And, btw, that t-shirt is designed to demonstrate how the Olympics is a facade designed to hide human rights abuses perpetuated by China. Note the handcuffs Actually the big picture is China's human rights abuses to it's own citizens, not merely Tibet. The fact that the IOC awarded them the games at all and that our athletes have gone shows our governments are happy to turn a blind eye (again) - this is the big picture and where efforts like this should be addressed. I did miss the handcuffs though - still think "Free Tibet" etc would be clearer

it does say 'Free Tibet' within the handcuffs...not exactly clear though.

Your post is right, everyone is turning a blind eye because China will soon be, if not already, the leading superpower.

I am sorry to be negative about the story, it isn't really my intention but I do get frustrated when people get up in arms about a trendy cause like Tibet when there are so many problems closer to home.

Leave Tibet to people like the Beastie Boys who have been objecting about it for years. There is certainly a loud enough voice supporting Tibet and making people aware of the dire situation there.

Lets sort out this 'hole' of a country first.

I and I wrote:

Miles Sway wrote: Ummm...wow. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Mat was speaking out for people who couldn't speak out for themselves without getting shot. How can you miss the big picture so badly? And, btw, that t-shirt is designed to demonstrate how the Olympics is a facade designed to hide human rights abuses perpetuated by China. Note the handcuffs Actually the big picture is China's human rights abuses to it's own citizens, not merely Tibet. The fact that the IOC awarded them the games at all and that our athletes have gone shows our governments are happy to turn a blind eye (again) - this is the big picture and where efforts like this should be addressed. I did miss the handcuffs though - still think "Free Tibet" etc would be clearer

it does say 'Free Tibet' within the handcuffs...not exactly clear though. Your post is right, everyone is turning a blind eye because China will soon be, if not already, the leading superpower. I am sorry to be negative about the story, it isn't really my intention but I do get frustrated when people get up in arms about a trendy cause like Tibet when there are so many problems closer to home. Leave Tibet to people like the Beastie Boys who have been objecting about it for years. There is certainly a loud enough voice supporting Tibet and making people aware of the dire situation there. Lets sort out this 'hole' of a country first.

Wonder what is the definition of 'trendy cause'

People of Tibet are one of the most peace loving lot on this planet, they have suffered extreme oppression by China (as indeed have most Chinese) for many decades. Their plight does not make head lines and has been ignored by this world which for some strange reason tend to take more notice of those who use violence for political purposes i.e. Terrorism. Isn't that sad state of affairs?

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

I and I wrote:

Miles Sway wrote: Ummm...wow. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Mat was speaking out for people who couldn't speak out for themselves without getting shot. How can you miss the big picture so badly? And, btw, that t-shirt is designed to demonstrate how the Olympics is a facade designed to hide human rights abuses perpetuated by China. Note the handcuffs Actually the big picture is China's human rights abuses to it's own citizens, not merely Tibet. The fact that the IOC awarded them the games at all and that our athletes have gone shows our governments are happy to turn a blind eye (again) - this is the big picture and where efforts like this should be addressed. I did miss the handcuffs though - still think "Free Tibet" etc would be clearer

it does say 'Free Tibet' within the handcuffs...not exactly clear though. Your post is right, everyone is turning a blind eye because China will soon be, if not already, the leading superpower. I am sorry to be negative about the story, it isn't really my intention but I do get frustrated when people get up in arms about a trendy cause like Tibet when there are so many problems closer to home. Leave Tibet to people like the Beastie Boys who have been objecting about it for years. There is certainly a loud enough voice supporting Tibet and making people aware of the dire situation there. Lets sort out this 'hole' of a country first.

Wonder what is the definition of 'trendy cause' People of Tibet are one of the most peace loving lot on this planet, they have suffered extreme oppression by China (as indeed have most Chinese) for many decades. Their plight does not make head lines and has been ignored by this world which for some strange reason tend to take more notice of those who use violence for political purposes i.e. Terrorism. Isn't that sad state of affairs?

The reality is that those in power are gutless and we should have refused to send our athletes or support the Olympics in any way - nonetheless, as China is a major power and trading partner such "indiscretions" as Human rights will be brushed aside - as happens everywhere when national interests come before morals. Trouble is as a people do we care enough? - we still buy Chinese goods, watch the Olympics etc, how hypocritical is that?

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

I and I wrote:

Miles Sway wrote: Ummm...wow. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Mat was speaking out for people who couldn't speak out for themselves without getting shot. How can you miss the big picture so badly? And, btw, that t-shirt is designed to demonstrate how the Olympics is a facade designed to hide human rights abuses perpetuated by China. Note the handcuffs Actually the big picture is China's human rights abuses to it's own citizens, not merely Tibet. The fact that the IOC awarded them the games at all and that our athletes have gone shows our governments are happy to turn a blind eye (again) - this is the big picture and where efforts like this should be addressed. I did miss the handcuffs though - still think "Free Tibet" etc would be clearer

it does say 'Free Tibet' within the handcuffs...not exactly clear though. Your post is right, everyone is turning a blind eye because China will soon be, if not already, the leading superpower. I am sorry to be negative about the story, it isn't really my intention but I do get frustrated when people get up in arms about a trendy cause like Tibet when there are so many problems closer to home. Leave Tibet to people like the Beastie Boys who have been objecting about it for years. There is certainly a loud enough voice supporting Tibet and making people aware of the dire situation there. Lets sort out this 'hole' of a country first.

Wonder what is the definition of 'trendy cause' People of Tibet are one of the most peace loving lot on this planet, they have suffered extreme oppression by China (as indeed have most Chinese) for many decades. Their plight does not make head lines and has been ignored by this world which for some strange reason tend to take more notice of those who use violence for political purposes i.e. Terrorism. Isn't that sad state of affairs?

oh my, no mention of local politics or your beloved party. I'm impressed. ;p

what alot of people dont relize is that tibet has all ways been a part of china has is taiwan,tibet was china spritral center and it was only because of the ww2 and the revolution did they become seperated

southy wrote:
what alot of people dont relize is that tibet has all ways been a part of china has is taiwan,tibet was china spritral center and it was only because of the ww2 and the revolution did they become seperated

Didn't Saddam use the same logic for his invasion and brutal occupation of Kuwait? The differnce? Tibet has none of the assets and China is powerful, hence the almost total silence from the West

kuwait was founded in the eighteenth century,and became a crown state,big diffrence in time peroid.
not alot of fuss was made when that president from chile came here for hospital treatment and protected by maggie thatcher,this guy is just has bad has hitler,he was murdering and it was not just kept to men he was killing women kids babys

You mentioned earlier that Tibet has was seperated from China post WW2, how long must they be seperate to be classed as an independant or crown state then and doe's it even make a difference - how we react depends on circumstances and out own interests. Particulalry relevant with what's happening in Russia/Georgia right now to. It re-affirms my point, morals are put aside in favour of national interests - we turn a blind eye to Tibet because iti suits us to. Not comfortable but true.
The Chinese leadership is guilty of suppression and killing civilians but all will be ignored because it suits us better.
Pinochet, despite his reputation, was protected, as Chile was very helpful in our re-gaining the Falklands, which Argentina was claiming as their territory.

a war that could of been avoided by listen to the first sea lord and placing more marines down there,not cut the marines numbers down and bring them back to the uk

Want to make a headline? Carry the Tibetan flag to China. It's the best time to do so. Guarantee your picture will be on the news. LOL

If anyone has ever read any of the reports compiled on the treatment of the Tibetan people by the Chinese then they would not be cynical enough to suggest that Mat is jumping on some 'trendy' bandwagon. These people experience a brutality we cannot imagine. Stop being armchair critics and get off your backsides and do something worthwhile yourselves.

Deborah wrote:
If anyone has ever read any of the reports compiled on the treatment of the Tibetan people by the Chinese then they would not be cynical enough to suggest that Mat is jumping on some 'trendy' bandwagon. These people experience a brutality we cannot imagine. Stop being armchair critics and get off your backsides and do something worthwhile yourselves.

it has nothing to do with us,it china problem to sort out,and if you must know the tibetian started it off by shooting at the chineze army when they came back to reset up there boarder posts after the second world war