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City is third most dangerous place in Britain to live

11:02am Monday 25th August 2008

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SOUTHAMPTON has been named and shamed as one of the most dangerous places to live in England.

There was a violent crime committed an average of once every hour in the city, according to statistics for 2007/8.

The 8,800 recorded offences mean Southampton has the third highest percentage of violent acts per population in England and Wales.

Only north Manchester and Sheffield saw more than the Hampshire city's 38 crimes per 1,000 people.

But Southampton's top policeman said the force is working hard to cut violent crimes, and pointed to figures which show the number of offences has started falling.

The league table, which is based on Home Office statistics on recorded offences, has been compiled by the Suzy Lamplugh Trust, which campaigns for improved personal safety.

The same research last year named Southampton as the fifth most unsafe city, but a three per cent increase in violent crimes has seen it rise two further unwanted places in the league table.

The trust, which was formed by the parents of estate agent Suzy Lamplugh, who disappeared in 1986 and is presumed murdered, is now calling on local authorities to do more to help protect citizens.

"Violent crime can happen anywhere," said chief executive Steven Gauge.

"All of us need to be aware of the risks and think about what we can do to stay safe.

"Police forces in the top ten high risk areas face a massive challenge in trying to bring down violent crime.

"The local authorities in the areas that are moving up the chart need to have a serious think about why that is happening and what they can do to reverse the decline.

"It is important that residents of the most violent areas take extra care with their personal safety but it is equally important that they don't let the fear of crime ruin their lives."

Southampton OCU commander, Chief Superintendent Matthew Greening said police are working on various tactics to cut violent crime.

They have recently signed up to the regional government-sponsored Tackling Violent Crime programme, which concentrates on alcohol, late night violence and domestic violence.

"Over the last year violent crime has fallen five per cent - between April 1, 2008 and July 31, 2008, 3,238 incidents of violent crime were recorded in Southampton, compared to 3,397 during the same period in 2007," said Chief Supt Greening.

"This is despite the thorough nature of our recording systems.

"We recognise that violent crime is an issue within Southampton, as it is in all cities and we are committed to reducing this further by working with our partner agencies, particularly looking at the effects of alcohol on violence."


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about time, soton says...
11:07am Mon 25 Aug 08

could be because coppers here are only interested in picking on law abiding motorists therefore leaving the scumbags to do as they please!

C, Soton says...
11:41am Mon 25 Aug 08

Er....traffic cops deal with supposed "law abiding" motorists. Regular police deal with everything else. The problem lies with the scumbags not the police. The police do what they can, just like any emergency service, but demand far outweighs resources.

a victim, southampton says...
11:51am Mon 25 Aug 08

at long last,reality of the situation here,group stalking has been going on here for the last fifteen years,can anyone tell me these morons are not coached by more sinister elements?speialist squads are needed and proper mental treatment given,southampton was once a vibrant city,now a pale shadow of what it once was.

Red Rooster, Bitterne says...
11:55am Mon 25 Aug 08

So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to:
- cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking
- cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow)
- try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed)

Viva Cameron!

jebus, losechester says...
12:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08

It's called de-evolution. The people who are least fit to bring children into this world have the most children, the people who would have the means and the will to bring up children properly have very few chidren.

I would happily see scumbags put down. They are just animals gone bad.

Ospreysaint, Southampton says...
12:57pm Mon 25 Aug 08

As we witness another armed robbery the figures seem to be correct. We seem to pay more and more Council Tax to pay for Policing, isn't it about time we got some value for it?

It is not the Policemans fault of course, it is down to the low life criminal element that stoop to crime, but there is little to deter them.

What is the answer? I have no idea.

As for Stevie steve, are you just a WUM or proud of the fact that you cannot hold your beer, nothing to be proud of there, try Alchoholics Anonymous, you might get your self esteem back...

joker, says...
1:02pm Mon 25 Aug 08

looking at the picture of the officer its no woder we have problems......how long has Mr Bean been on the beat in Southampton.

truth patrol, soton says...
1:14pm Mon 25 Aug 08

looks like the chief of police should be sacked. He is obviously not doing his job. He is accountable, he takes the big money, if he were a gentleman he would resign, and let someone have the job who can do it and satisfy the local populations requirements.

Jean Roost, Bitterne says...
1:15pm Mon 25 Aug 08

I don't know who Red Rooster from Bitterne is but it most certainly is not me.

Concerned Local, says...
1:31pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Having experienced problems with local youths destroying everything in sight, I asked the police for help, but ended up feeling I was just a nuisance to them. Then the local PCSO stepped in and (touch wood)all has been quiet.... Maybe more visible Support Officers would deter these young hooligans and free up much needed police resources?

and?, says...
1:32pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Jean Roost wrote:
I don't know who Red Rooster from Bitterne is but it most certainly is not me.
Nobody thought it was! Well, until you denied it so vehemently, that is.....

Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
1:32pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Red Rooster wrote:
So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton.

Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.

and?, says...
1:37pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Red Rooster wrote:
So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton.

Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-hand

Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
1:42pm Mon 25 Aug 08

and? wrote:
Jean Roost wrote: I don't know who Red Rooster from Bitterne is but it most certainly is not me.
Nobody thought it was! Well, until you denied it so vehemently, that is.....
Hello Jean,

You should really be proud if people are confusing you with Red Rooster. Whoever is using this ID seem to be intelligent person, and may also have some socialist blood in him/her.

Parmi Bahia

Rob, Winchester says...
2:01pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Concerned Local wrote:
Having experienced problems with local youths destroying everything in sight, I asked the police for help, but ended up feeling I was just a nuisance to them. Then the local PCSO stepped in and (touch wood)all has been quiet.... Maybe more visible Support Officers would deter these young hooligans and free up much needed police resources?
I agree its the only way forward.

Musher, Not Here says...
2:12pm Mon 25 Aug 08

City is third most dangerous place in Britain to live
And who's fault is this then?? The blood.y PC brigade, that's who!!

voter, southampton says...
2:29pm Mon 25 Aug 08

I think the chief of police should be elected by the public.Then if he can't do his job we can then replace him at the next election

Ian, bitterne park says...
2:31pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Musher wrote:
City is third most dangerous place in Britain to live And who's fault is this then?? The blood.y PC brigade, that's who!!
By PC you mean Police Constable?

rumdo, bitterne says...
2:54pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Iwas born,bred and lived in soton until 1986. Then went to London to work until 2000. Returned to the city I love and found a place full of dodgy fellas, hard drinking out of order chavs/chavesses and a student population out of all control ruining places like Bedford Place. Everybody under 35yrs seems to have lost respect for themselves and their fellow city dwellers. The police on the street,when you see them appear to be streetwise-less and fear the ruffians they have to deal with. Most appear too young and devoid of the life experience to deal with such a job in our city. Thank God I leave for Kuwait at the end of the year. No wonder Muslims despise us and our decadent ways. We dont care for ourselves, let alone for each other.

k, says...
3:45pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Ian wrote:
Musher wrote:
City is third most dangerous place in Britain to live And who's fault is this then?? The blood.y PC brigade, that's who!!
By PC you mean Police Constable?
Well who else would they mean?

Matt Probert, Harefield says...
4:33pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Absolute nonsense. Southampton is NOT a dangerous place to live. I moved here four years ago to escape the violent crime in Basingstoke, a town where I was regualrly assaulted. Since moving to Southampton I have not been assaulted once, and find it a very passive city populated - on the whole - by the friendliest, most easy going people in the south of England.

imigrant, detention ctre says...
4:55pm Mon 25 Aug 08

hmmm well that's it, i changed my mind to immigrate to Soton with mi family.


imigrant, escaped says...
5:30pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Denzil wrote:
It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.

Mark R, San Francisco (Ex Pat) says...
5:31pm Mon 25 Aug 08

I was home recently and from what I could see too many of the violent thugs are being treated as though they are the victims, huged and cuddled by the 'activists' and '-ologists' who infest modern social work. Treat the thugs with a sharp shock, Treat them like they treat their victims. I'm sick of feeling that my friends and family can't walk the streets of their own city because of this filth and their do-gooder protectors.

Condor Man, Southampton says...
6:06pm Mon 25 Aug 08

I find my Chinese, Polish and Indian neighbours a lot more easy to live with than the 'natives' I was saddled with before. If they weren't selling drugs outside my home they were rude and abusive- and this wasn't in an area of owner-occupied property. It's not just the unemployed who are trouble makers sadly.

Denzil, Chilworth says...
6:07pm Mon 25 Aug 08

imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.

imigrant, at home says...
6:10pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)

Soton Resident, Chilworth says...
6:21pm Mon 25 Aug 08

"Chief Superintendent Matthew Greening said police are working on various tactics to cut violent crime" - I have it on good authority that "various tactics" currently includes the manipulation of crime figures, with senior officers ordering frontline PC's to coerce members of the public to report "no crime" if they eventually do not wish to pursue any criminal complaint. I suggest Greening and his senior management get their own ivory tower in order, and leave those at the sharp end to get on with proper policing rather than this pathetic example of statisitics led management.

Oh well, back to Dorset, Shirley says...
6:33pm Mon 25 Aug 08

My wife and I moved here from Dorset with new jobs, happy to be on the property ladder and wanting to start a family. On our very first day in Soton we were attacked by local "yooves" on St James' Rd and the police reaction was simply to say "we don't normally have any trouble there". Since then, having witnessed violent domestics and generally being cowed into thinking that respect for others and cooperation is for others to espouse rather than for everyone to practise - I am sad to say that we can't wait to leave what ought to be a beacon for Civilisation in the South.

Denzil, Chilworth says...
6:38pm Mon 25 Aug 08

imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
No, your REAL home.

methinks, everywhere says...
6:39pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Immigrant, take no notice of Denzil, he has many issues including being a bigot and sexual deviant, he's an all round sicko.
If it was to do with immigrants then surely places like Slough would be up there in the top ten.
The figures are misleading.
Dorset East for instance was voted the safest place in the country, yet ommited Bournemouth and Poole's figures, how can you leave out the most populated areas. Good for tourism I suppose.
Also how many people bother to report assaults nowadays?

about time, soton says...
6:41pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Rob wrote:
Concerned Local wrote:
Having experienced problems with local youths destroying everything in sight, I asked the police for help, but ended up feeling I was just a nuisance to them. Then the local PCSO stepped in and (touch wood)all has been quiet.... Maybe more visible Support Officers would deter these young hooligans and free up much needed police resources?
I agree its the only way forward.
put yourself forward to be a pcso then,,oops i forgot thats other peoples responsibility!!!

Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
6:43pm Mon 25 Aug 08

imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
Dear Fellow Immigrant,
You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off.
Kind regards

Big Steve, Southampton says...
6:51pm Mon 25 Aug 08

and? wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Red Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-hand
Tell me you are joking - he can't possibly have held office, surely? He is incapable of stringing any sort of coherent statement together, and cannot comment on any subject without bringing "new labour" into the discussion.

Denzil, Chilworth says...
7:18pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regards
That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.

saddened, Southampton says...
7:25pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Southampton is a violent city. Young women are often the worst - walking around in large groups and taking up the whole pavement - refusing to move out of the way - there is no manners in Southampton. Young mothers are horrendous and leave their children to scream for hours and totally ignoring them - making the rest of society angry. If you speak to the young mother, you receive a torrent of abuse. There us too much noise in this city. The noise from the common can be heard from miles around, then aircarft noise and general anti social noise from ignorant people.

Bob444, Southampton says...
7:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Red Rooster wrote:
So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council\'s approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton.

Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Spot on!

Denzil, Chilworth says...
7:56pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Bob444 wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Red Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council\'s approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Spot on!
Don't encourage him Bob.

Concerned Local, Soton says...
8:15pm Mon 25 Aug 08

about time wrote:
Rob wrote:
Concerned Local wrote: Having experienced problems with local youths destroying everything in sight, I asked the police for help, but ended up feeling I was just a nuisance to them. Then the local PCSO stepped in and (touch wood)all has been quiet.... Maybe more visible Support Officers would deter these young hooligans and free up much needed police resources?
I agree its the only way forward.
put yourself forward to be a pcso then,,oops i forgot thats other peoples responsibility!!!
Pot and kettle spring to mind, unless you've already applied?!!!

It's not a case of being someone elses responsibility, but quite frankly the yobs scare me. Then again, give me a stun gun and I'd quite happily deal with them, especially when they've just terrified my 4-year-old!

Ted, says...
8:33pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.

big knob, southampton says...
9:09pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Ted wrote:
Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
you forgot shirley warren,townhill park, bassett, sholing, st marys, northam estate all full of scum of the earth-one massive bomb and do them all

also might have somthing to do with all the polish all 25,000 of them.

PoormanIpityyou, here says...
9:11pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Denzil wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regards
That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.
Maybe it's extremely common in the company you keep, which I dread to even comprehend you vile cretin.
Your attitude includes, judging by other posts, that you endorse peadophilia, children who die in road accidents deserve it, parents messed up by loss of kids deserve to die etc etc.
How on earth can you believe most people share your views? Are you blind, look at the response your posts get.
I pity you, you hateful little ****.
crawl back under your rock slime ball.

Denzil, Chilworth says...
9:18pm Mon 25 Aug 08

PoormanIpityyou wrote:
Denzil wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regards
That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.
Maybe it's extremely common in the company you keep, which I dread to even comprehend you vile cretin. Your attitude includes, judging by other posts, that you endorse peadophilia, children who die in road accidents deserve it, parents messed up by loss of kids deserve to die etc etc. How on earth can you believe most people share your views? Are you blind, look at the response your posts get. I pity you, you hateful little ****. crawl back under your rock slime ball.
All of your post is utter rubbish but well done anyay. The people of this country are fed up with immigrants coming over and taking liberties. If you think any different then you are sadly mistaken.

Pity's too good for some, says...
9:18pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Guess it's "Denzil no mates" now then! Bet Billy's chuffed

Major Sir Jerry Pending, Ward 10 says...
9:22pm Mon 25 Aug 08

jebus wrote:
It's called de-evolution. The people who are least fit to bring children into this world have the most children, the people who would have the means and the will to bring up children properly have very few chidren. I would happily see scumbags put down. They are just animals gone bad.
A simple answer - CUT OFF THEIR GOOLIES!!

Deluded4inchissmall, bigknobsbed says...
9:23pm Mon 25 Aug 08

big knob wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
you forgot shirley warren,townhill park, bassett, sholing, st marys, northam estate all full of scum of the earth-one massive bomb and do them all also might have somthing to do with all the polish all 25,000 of them.
Appropriate name, shame it's not to do with your actual penis.
If of course you feel it is, why don't you bend over and **** yourself.
Your bomb would wipe out everyone you clown, or do you think bombs can discriminate between areas within its range.

PoormanIpityyou, says...
9:29pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Denzil wrote:
PoormanIpityyou wrote:
Denzil wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regards
That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.
Maybe it's extremely common in the company you keep, which I dread to even comprehend you vile cretin. Your attitude includes, judging by other posts, that you endorse peadophilia, children who die in road accidents deserve it, parents messed up by loss of kids deserve to die etc etc. How on earth can you believe most people share your views? Are you blind, look at the response your posts get. I pity you, you hateful little ****. crawl back under your rock slime ball.
All of your post is utter rubbish but well done anyay. The people of this country are fed up with immigrants coming over and taking liberties. If you think any different then you are sadly mistaken.
Anyay? What's that, get an education you ****.
If you read the papers most people are rueing the fact the immigrants are all going home.
Like I said it's sickos like yourself that see things in another way, on more than just this aspect, everything you say is sick and uninformed.
You are SICK seek help.

wiseup, thurrock essex says...
9:42pm Mon 25 Aug 08

DO ANY OF YOU REALLY CARE FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND COUNTRY.

You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative Governments

You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative councillors

You live in the environmental mess you voted in and blame every one else, but will you have learnt a lesson and wised up.



Never Vote Labour / Conservative / liberal Ever Again

Its your children's last hope for a future vote for them Vote BNP next election.

methinks, everywhere says...
9:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08

wiseup wrote:
DO ANY OF YOU REALLY CARE FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND COUNTRY. You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative Governments You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative councillors You live in the environmental mess you voted in and blame every one else, but will you have learnt a lesson and wised up. Never Vote Labour / Conservative / liberal Ever Again Its your children\'s last hope for a future vote for them Vote BNP next election.
Lost cause here, Denzil who advocates evrything sick is a self proclaimed signed up member. You'll need to do something convincing to bring your case, no-one wants to be Denzil.

Musher, Chavsville says...
9:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Ted wrote:
Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!

Denzil, Chilworth says...
9:59pm Mon 25 Aug 08

methinks wrote:
wiseup wrote: DO ANY OF YOU REALLY CARE FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND COUNTRY. You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative Governments You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative councillors You live in the environmental mess you voted in and blame every one else, but will you have learnt a lesson and wised up. Never Vote Labour / Conservative / liberal Ever Again Its your children\'s last hope for a future vote for them Vote BNP next election.
Lost cause here, Denzil who advocates evrything sick is a self proclaimed signed up member. You'll need to do something convincing to bring your case, no-one wants to be Denzil.
Keep telling yourself that.

methinks, everywhere says...
10:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08

So why are you so widespreadly despised.
You make people want to be sick, if you think that's people agreeing with you it shows your level of dillusion.
The echo should run a vote, who thinks Denzil's a pr/ck and who agrees, I think I know who what side would get the most votes.

In The Know, Soton says...
10:17pm Mon 25 Aug 08

methinks wrote:
So why are you so widespreadly despised. You make people want to be sick, if you think that's people agreeing with you it shows your level of dillusion. The echo should run a vote, who thinks Denzil's a pr/ck and who agrees, I think I know who what side would get the most votes.
Congratulations, you have successfully been trolled. Don't feed the trolls!

John, SOUTHAMPTON says...
10:23pm Mon 25 Aug 08

If this was a commercial operation the person in charge would be replaced -sadley in Gov/Police/Civil Service this does not apply, he will be promoted.

Printer, Hampshire says...
12:43am Tue 26 Aug 08

The reason for generally increasing crime rates is the lack of really suitable deterents, the punishments,so called, handed out these days act only as encouragements, often the criminal treats prison as a 5 star hotel with comforts etc., that only wealthy people enjoy on the "outside" and it!s another chance for them to meet up again with old pals and to boast and brag about what they have been up to and what they intend to do when released.

There are too many organisations, government, legal, etc., that make £100,000!s out of crime, it!s not in their interest to realy alter things.

live local, southampton says...
3:47am Tue 26 Aug 08

Wednesday 19th September 2007
at 14:15 PM
Council Chamber, Civic Centre
B. Councillor Bridle to move:
This Council extends its condolences to the family of Rhys Jones and to the people of the City of Liverpool. We deplore the terrible waste of this young life and sincerely trust that those responsible are swiftly brought to justice.

Southampton has a history of being a safe city and in an effort to prevent similar events from happening here, this Council will adopt a policy of zero tolerance towards the sale and ownership of offensive weapons, be they firearms or knives and to act swiftly against those who carry such weapons on our streets.


must be quote of the year, godd think she has now gone!

big guns, woolston says...
8:51am Tue 26 Aug 08

TED.....I grew up in millbrook and you are totally wrong and you miss judge people just because of a place they live. you get crime and violent misfits no matter where you live. I have so many friends from places like millbrook weston etc and a lot of them happen to be plunbers and sparkies builders all people that when you need them your happy to let into your house then. so you are wrong about people in certain areas criminlas come from everywhere and i bet you have 1 in your street, but you just don't know it.

Leo, says...
9:11am Tue 26 Aug 08

Musher wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers.

It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it.

Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily.

As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.

Guyman, soton says...
9:53am Tue 26 Aug 08

2007 was a bad year for southampton and it was always going to show in the stats, there was a double murder in a block of flats in townhill, a friend of mine was stabbed to deat in Weston, another friend of mine was stabbed to death in woolston, a somalian was killed in st marys, a russian guy was killed in shirley, a 15y/o was stabbed to death in totton, a taxi driver was set on fire... they are the ones that yuo cant cover up, this city is violent and thats it. I have a mate from Liverpool who reckons the attitude down here absolutley stinks. We had the highest rate of teenage pregnancy too so this dump is only gonna get worse.

Batman, The Batcave says...
10:01am Tue 26 Aug 08

Good morning citizens. I am forming a vigilante partnership. I am looking for a sidekick, preferably someone called Robin. Any applicants will need to be comfortable in tights. Together, we will clean up this town!

Katrina, Southampton says...
10:21am Tue 26 Aug 08

Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.
I totllly agree, life is made far too easy for wasters - BUT that is no excuse to label people based on where they live - everybody is different!!!

Musher, Chavsville,apparentl y! says...
11:31am Tue 26 Aug 08

Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers.

It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it.

Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily.

As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.
Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!

Mike, Woolston says...
12:43pm Tue 26 Aug 08

I'd rather walk through Southampton at night than Lewisham. The most interesting statistics would be the break down by "violent" crime if they were available. Southampton is not the 3rd most dangerous place to live in the UK! It all depends what your perception of dangerous is really.

Leo, social housing is really for another era, but that doesn't mean that good people don't live on these estates! I was bought up in social housing after escaping Weston tower blocks in the early 70's, my parents and everyone that moved in treated the houses as their own, sadly this is no longer the case with new residents. It does seem to be a take take take attitude.

Hugo Whittingham, Southampton says...
12:49pm Tue 26 Aug 08

If we were to deduct Millbrook and Shirley Warren from the figures, Southampton would be far from the bottom 10, as I have lived in Chilworth all my life and I find those jobless baby making chavs a total disgrace to my city.
Can we please sterilize the water supply to stop those scum from breeding.

and?, says...
12:52pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Big Steve wrote:
and? wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Red Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-hand
Tell me you are joking - he can't possibly have held office, surely? He is incapable of stringing any sort of coherent statement together, and cannot comment on any subject without bringing "new labour" into the discussion.
Sadly, I'm not joking

enoch andrews, southampton says...
1:04pm Tue 26 Aug 08

dont underestimate big buisness in this,they have their eyes on these estates,introduce the devils dandruff to morons and get chaos,grese a few palms and watch the estates implode,sadly,the decent folks need a impotent justice system to stop the chaos,just evil greedy traitors in their midst.this was done in america years ago,tried and tested formula.

Leo, says...
1:04pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Musher wrote:
Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.
Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!
I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing.

It's the 3rd or 4th generations of the original occupants of places like Merry OakMillbrook etc that have no respect for their locations or people around them. I'm sure that when these places were built they didn't expect them to be inhabited by the lowlife that occupies them now.

And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen with a job however it's because of these namby pamby do-gooders that insist that certain sections of our society should look after such lowlife that we now have these council ghettos.

Hugo Whittingham, Southampton says...
1:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08

If we were to deduct Millbrook and Shirley Warren from the figures, Southampton would be far from the bottom 10, as I have lived in Chilworth all my life and I find those jobless baby making chavs a total disgrace to my city.
Can we please sterilize the water supply to stop those scum from breeding.

Bring back hanging, Eastleigh says...
1:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Why do the police always get the blame. They track someone down, have to spend ages on paperwork only for some do-gooder to let the scum go to offend again. No wonder the police get fed up having to deal with this if nothing is ever done.

D McCarthy, Bitterne Manor says...
1:16pm Tue 26 Aug 08

My husband was born and grew up in West London. He has lived here for four years and would never move back there. I agree the city is in a bad way but it still has a long way to go before it matches London, Birmingham etc. How many stabbings/shootings has there been in those two places just over the weekend?

erm, says...
1:19pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Hugo Whittingham wrote:

I have lived in Chilworth all my life


not yet you haven't

c, says...
1:35pm Tue 26 Aug 08

erm wrote:
Hugo Whittingham wrote:

I have lived in Chilworth all my life


not yet you haven't
If you have lived in chilworth all your life why are you slagging off shirley warren and millbrook, you get problems in all areas including chilworth.

TSB, says...
1:39pm Tue 26 Aug 08

why is you all bad mouthin sholing. It aint that bad we as the occasional stabbin but nothin really bad. Its Weston you want to be really scared of.

mandem, H.M.P Winch says...
1:42pm Tue 26 Aug 08

lol that pc copper bloke is a mr bean double. In fact its actuall rowan atkinson in thin blue line lol,

JillyBee, Portswood says...
1:46pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Lived here over 20 years and never had any problems myself, but my son and at lest one of his friends have.

My son got attacked, few years back, completely out of the blue, by someone he had never seen before, never even spoken to (not even then - he just got smacked in the face). The police were very good, and it went to court; turned out the lad already had an ASBO for this kind of thing. And what did he get this time? Another ASBO!

However, son's friend T got roughed up last year, in the middle of town, by a bunch of people he had annoyed (he'd been a bit rude about someone's ability to drive). Police just stood by and watched! T asked why they weren't doing anything, and they said there were "too many of them"! When T persisted, they threatened to arrest him instead. Local bouncer, who had watched the whole thing, said this wasn't at all unusual. Not sure what I think of the police, overall.

k, says...
1:56pm Tue 26 Aug 08

JillyBee wrote:
Lived here over 20 years and never had any problems myself, but my son and at lest one of his friends have.

My son got attacked, few years back, completely out of the blue, by someone he had never seen before, never even spoken to (not even then - he just got smacked in the face). The police were very good, and it went to court; turned out the lad already had an ASBO for this kind of thing. And what did he get this time? Another ASBO!

However, son's friend T got roughed up last year, in the middle of town, by a bunch of people he had annoyed (he'd been a bit rude about someone's ability to drive). Police just stood by and watched! T asked why they weren't doing anything, and they said there were "too many of them"! When T persisted, they threatened to arrest him instead. Local bouncer, who had watched the whole thing, said this wasn't at all unusual. Not sure what I think of the police, overall.
The police seem to pick and choose the incidents they want to attend, now if it was a car chase they would be fighting over who was going to attend, half the time they don't even bother to turn out when you phone them.

Musher, Chavsville,apparentl y! says...
2:16pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.
Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!
I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing.

It's the 3rd or 4th generations of the original occupants of places like Merry OakMillbrook etc that have no respect for their locations or people around them. I'm sure that when these places were built they didn't expect them to be inhabited by the lowlife that occupies them now.

And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen with a job however it's because of these namby pamby do-gooders that insist that certain sections of our society should look after such lowlife that we now have these council ghettos.
Quote:And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen .. Un quote. I'm law abiding, what does that make you then if you assume it's 50/50? Think before you jump in feet first!

asterix, southampton says...
3:10pm Tue 26 Aug 08

i think southamptons problem is just too many of those bigoted anglo-saxon types in OUR celic land called BRITON

joe, canada says...
3:20pm Tue 26 Aug 08

My advice....move away the place is a sh.t hole. It will not be getting better anytime soon. Shame we can't have as much fight in the centre of Saints midfield though

Individual, eastleigh says...
4:33pm Tue 26 Aug 08

i am not prejudice, but southampton has become foreigner central! since we britons (aka government) let them in, we loose our jobs and our cities to these people! we should become more like new zealand - you dont get in unless you have a profession that will help the community - thats why they have a very low crime rate! its becoming more dangerous as these foreigners make groups and clans and cause havoc in the city, so yes, southampton has become more violent because we believe we are getting workers for a lower wage and will work stupid hours, yet guaranteed these people are the cause to our problems. we follow our rules and laws, yet they get off scot free and do what they want - if we lived in their countries, we would have to follow their rules or we would be banged up for it within seconds! england has become a much lesser place to live - and im sure life would be better with out these people helping themselves to our life as we used to see it.

Leo, says...
4:40pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Musher wrote:
Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.
Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!
I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing. It's the 3rd or 4th generations of the original occupants of places like Merry OakMillbrook etc that have no respect for their locations or people around them. I'm sure that when these places were built they didn't expect them to be inhabited by the lowlife that occupies them now. And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen with a job however it's because of these namby pamby do-gooders that insist that certain sections of our society should look after such lowlife that we now have these council ghettos.
Quote:And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen .. Un quote. I'm law abiding, what does that make you then if you assume it's 50/50? Think before you jump in feet first!
You're a bit sensitive aren't you Musher? I'm sure that there are law abiding citizens around your nice piece of social housing. Also, i know a lot of people who are disabled and can still work and don't claim benefits. This country is full of work shy people!

Musher, Chavsville, definately! says...
4:55pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Leo wrote:
Musher wrote:
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.
Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!
I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing. It's the 3rd or 4th generations of the original occupants of places like Merry OakMillbrook etc that have no respect for their locations or people around them. I'm sure that when these places were built they didn't expect them to be inhabited by the lowlife that occupies them now. And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen with a job however it's because of these namby pamby do-gooders that insist that certain sections of our society should look after such lowlife that we now have these council ghettos.
Quote:And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen .. Un quote. I'm law abiding, what does that make you then if you assume it's 50/50? Think before you jump in feet first!
You're a bit sensitive aren't you Musher? I'm sure that there are law abiding citizens around your nice piece of social housing. Also, i know a lot of people who are disabled and can still work and don't claim benefits. This country is full of work shy people!
I've taken my teeth out, I'm NOT biting.

Artful Dodger, Millbrook says...
5:15pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though!

When you reach an age when you are not quite sure of things, it usually means senility. Check it out with your carer.


Artful Dodger, Millbrook says...
5:23pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Denzil wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote:
imigrant wrote:
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regards
That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.
That's right Denzil, you are Not the tiny minority, you are the Tiny Minded.

I don't know whether your attituded is extremely common, but you certainly are.

As you are an immigrant to Chilworth from the rat-hole in Romsey, I would have thought that you would have some understanding (there's a laugh), but I have found that the ones who complain about immigrants the most, are those with a mile-wide inferiority complex, and like to feel that somehow they are better that immigrants.

Strange thing is, when they go to hospital, and have to be attended to by an immigrant Doctor or nurse, they accept the treatment without question.


Denzil the skate, says...
6:14pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Denzil you skate, get your skate @rse off the Internet and back to skateland you filthy skate scumbag

realitycheck, the real world says...
7:08pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Individual wrote:
i am not prejudice, but southampton has become foreigner central! since we britons (aka government) let them in, we loose our jobs and our cities to these people! we should become more like new zealand - you dont get in unless you have a profession that will help the community - thats why they have a very low crime rate! its becoming more dangerous as these foreigners make groups and clans and cause havoc in the city, so yes, southampton has become more violent because we believe we are getting workers for a lower wage and will work stupid hours, yet guaranteed these people are the cause to our problems. we follow our rules and laws, yet they get off scot free and do what they want - if we lived in their countries, we would have to follow their rules or we would be banged up for it within seconds! england has become a much lesser place to live - and im sure life would be better with out these people helping themselves to our life as we used to see it.
Well seeing as New Zealand's natives are the Maori and they're shafted in terms of employability and recognition of culture by the immigrants ie Western Europeans, you defeat your own arguement.

John, soton says...
8:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Well with Mr. Bean and 'the thin blue line' in mind (look at the supt's photo) when do you expect!

now in the north, bolton, from southampton says...
10:52pm Tue 26 Aug 08

and? wrote:
Big Steve wrote:
and? wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Red Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-hand
Tell me you are joking - he can't possibly have held office, surely? He is incapable of stringing any sort of coherent statement together, and cannot comment on any subject without bringing "new labour" into the discussion.
Sadly, I'm not joking
funny you should say that....look up the side effects of fluoridation....unfo
rtunatly, fluoride doesnt operate a method of selection so everyone else will suffer too. sadly, im not joking either!

Pete, Town says...
10:59pm Tue 26 Aug 08

TSB wrote:
why is you all bad mouthin sholing. It aint that bad we as the occasional stabbin but nothin really bad. Its Weston you want to be really scared of.
lol, reading that made me chuckle...

now in the north, bolton, from southampton says...
11:01pm Tue 26 Aug 08

I should imagine if you check out the methods of calculation..ie which crimes are included/ignored and I wonder if the critera for southamptons 'counted' statistics are different to other forces. Perhaps its the way they are selecting things that causes these rises. Certainly some of the estates can be horrific but the powers that be are too busy scraping in fines for those of us who are to busy concentrating on the road ahead to spot the cameras, than they are enforcing all the laws that have been bought about to control the moral-less. ASBO's are a joke to those who get them as are fines that can be paid at £1 per month because they only get benefit and smoke 60 a day (which is taken into consideration along with the costs of helly hansen jackets). Perhaps working for benefits, or reduction of benefit would work for those who dont follow the rules and dont work. And for those who do, bigger fines paid off at set amounts....if it makes them struggle financially perhaps they wont cross the line as often! Its not punishment if its easy. Grounding the kids doesnt work if they still have gameboys to play on! make them suffer, thats the point of punishment.

Lorraine Barter, Southampton says...
12:15pm Wed 27 Aug 08

rumdo wrote:
Iwas born,bred and lived in soton until 1986. Then went to London to work until 2000. Returned to the city I love and found a place full of dodgy fellas, hard drinking out of order chavs/chavesses and a student population out of all control ruining places like Bedford Place. Everybody under 35yrs seems to have lost respect for themselves and their fellow city dwellers. The police on the street,when you see them appear to be streetwise-less and fear the ruffians they have to deal with. Most appear too young and devoid of the life experience to deal with such a job in our city. Thank God I leave for Kuwait at the end of the year. No wonder Muslims despise us and our decadent ways. We dont care for ourselves, let alone for each other.
You are right about the Bedford Place area, so many long term residents have been driven out by student noise nuisance and anti-social behaviour that there will soon be no one left to report crimes.
That will bring the statistics down.
However I have seen police cars and vans
attending incidents weekly in the last month in one Polygon Road of only 22 houses so they are on the job.

southampton1990, mansbridge says...
6:46pm Wed 27 Aug 08

all of u lot are a bunch of hyperchondriact whiners! who cares let the police do ther jobs without ur criticisms u try and do there jobs if u think u can do better and blurtin ur thoughts on some web page isnt going to better the situation so whats the use u need to finf hobbies!

cooper, Thornhill southampton says...
11:57pm Wed 27 Aug 08

ima gang member i fight steal take drugs n i love it because before i was bored with no youth clubs an nothing exciting my olders braught me into it n im bringin my youngers into it this is only goin to escalate ive held nives my freinds hold nives 13 year olds r starting to hold nives guns r starting to be used Alot! n ur all ignorant n look down on us because we wear tracksuites n think the only way to solve is is by tougher laws this isa lifestile braught on by poverty and your all unwilling to spend ur tax moneyon the **** estates we live in imagrants are coming into my estate n thinkinthey can fight us sooon polish deaths will rise theres no doubt about that we have no resect whatso ever with police there additude is that they all think there terminator n theen it comes to a suprise wen they get killed now tell me what you think ...

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