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11:02am Monday 25th August 2008
SOUTHAMPTON has been named and shamed as one of the most dangerous places to live in England.
There was a violent crime committed an average of once every hour in the city, according to statistics for 2007/8.
The 8,800 recorded offences mean Southampton has the third highest percentage of violent acts per population in England and Wales.
Only north Manchester and Sheffield saw more than the Hampshire city's 38 crimes per 1,000 people.
But Southampton's top policeman said the force is working hard to cut violent crimes, and pointed to figures which show the number of offences has started falling.
The league table, which is based on Home Office statistics on recorded offences, has been compiled by the Suzy Lamplugh Trust, which campaigns for improved personal safety.
The same research last year named Southampton as the fifth most unsafe city, but a three per cent increase in violent crimes has seen it rise two further unwanted places in the league table.
The trust, which was formed by the parents of estate agent Suzy Lamplugh, who disappeared in 1986 and is presumed murdered, is now calling on local authorities to do more to help protect citizens.
"Violent crime can happen anywhere," said chief executive Steven Gauge.
"All of us need to be aware of the risks and think about what we can do to stay safe.
"Police forces in the top ten high risk areas face a massive challenge in trying to bring down violent crime.
"The local authorities in the areas that are moving up the chart need to have a serious think about why that is happening and what they can do to reverse the decline.
"It is important that residents of the most violent areas take extra care with their personal safety but it is equally important that they don't let the fear of crime ruin their lives."
Southampton OCU commander, Chief Superintendent Matthew Greening said police are working on various tactics to cut violent crime.
They have recently signed up to the regional government-sponsored Tackling Violent Crime programme, which concentrates on alcohol, late night violence and domestic violence.
"Over the last year violent crime has fallen five per cent - between April 1, 2008 and July 31, 2008, 3,238 incidents of violent crime were recorded in Southampton, compared to 3,397 during the same period in 2007," said Chief Supt Greening.
"This is despite the thorough nature of our recording systems.
"We recognise that violent crime is an issue within Southampton, as it is in all cities and we are committed to reducing this further by working with our partner agencies, particularly looking at the effects of alcohol on violence."
C, Soton says...
11:41am Mon 25 Aug 08
a victim, southampton says...
11:51am Mon 25 Aug 08
Red Rooster, Bitterne says...
11:55am Mon 25 Aug 08
jebus, losechester says...
12:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Ospreysaint, Southampton says...
12:57pm Mon 25 Aug 08
joker, says...
1:02pm Mon 25 Aug 08
truth patrol, soton says...
1:14pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Jean Roost, Bitterne says...
1:15pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Concerned Local, says...
1:31pm Mon 25 Aug 08
and?, says...
1:32pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Jean Roost wrote:Nobody thought it was! Well, until you denied it so vehemently, that is.....
I don't know who Red Rooster from Bitterne is but it most certainly is not me.
Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
1:32pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Red Rooster wrote:What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton.
So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
and?, says...
1:37pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-hand
Red Rooster wrote:What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton.
So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
1:42pm Mon 25 Aug 08
and? wrote:Hello Jean,
Jean Roost wrote: I don't know who Red Rooster from Bitterne is but it most certainly is not me.Nobody thought it was! Well, until you denied it so vehemently, that is.....
Rob, Winchester says...
2:01pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Concerned Local wrote:I agree its the only way forward.
Having experienced problems with local youths destroying everything in sight, I asked the police for help, but ended up feeling I was just a nuisance to them. Then the local PCSO stepped in and (touch wood)all has been quiet.... Maybe more visible Support Officers would deter these young hooligans and free up much needed police resources?
Musher, Not Here says...
2:12pm Mon 25 Aug 08
voter, southampton says...
2:29pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Ian, bitterne park says...
2:31pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Musher wrote:By PC you mean Police Constable?
City is third most dangerous place in Britain to live And who's fault is this then?? The blood.y PC brigade, that's who!!
rumdo, bitterne says...
2:54pm Mon 25 Aug 08
k, says...
3:45pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Ian wrote:Well who else would they mean?
Musher wrote:By PC you mean Police Constable?
City is third most dangerous place in Britain to live And who's fault is this then?? The blood.y PC brigade, that's who!!
Matt Probert, Harefield says...
4:33pm Mon 25 Aug 08
imigrant, detention ctre says...
4:55pm Mon 25 Aug 08
imigrant, escaped says...
5:30pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Denzil wrote:OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.
Mark R, San Francisco (Ex Pat) says...
5:31pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Condor Man, Southampton says...
6:06pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Denzil, Chilworth says...
6:07pm Mon 25 Aug 08
imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.
Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
imigrant, at home says...
6:10pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Denzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)
imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Soton Resident, Chilworth says...
6:21pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Oh well, back to Dorset, Shirley says...
6:33pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Denzil, Chilworth says...
6:38pm Mon 25 Aug 08
imigrant wrote:No, your REAL home.
Denzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
methinks, everywhere says...
6:39pm Mon 25 Aug 08
about time, soton says...
6:41pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Rob wrote:put yourself forward to be a pcso then,,oops i forgot thats other peoples responsibility!!!
Concerned Local wrote:I agree its the only way forward.
Having experienced problems with local youths destroying everything in sight, I asked the police for help, but ended up feeling I was just a nuisance to them. Then the local PCSO stepped in and (touch wood)all has been quiet.... Maybe more visible Support Officers would deter these young hooligans and free up much needed police resources?
Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
6:43pm Mon 25 Aug 08
imigrant wrote:Dear Fellow Immigrant,
Denzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Big Steve, Southampton says...
6:51pm Mon 25 Aug 08
and? wrote:Tell me you are joking - he can't possibly have held office, surely? He is incapable of stringing any sort of coherent statement together, and cannot comment on any subject without bringing "new labour" into the discussion.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-handRed Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Denzil, Chilworth says...
7:18pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Paramjit Bahia wrote:That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.
imigrant wrote:Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regardsDenzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
saddened, Southampton says...
7:25pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Bob444, Southampton says...
7:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Spot on!
Red Rooster wrote:What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton.
So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council\'s approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!
Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Denzil, Chilworth says...
7:56pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Bob444 wrote:Don't encourage him Bob.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Spot on!Red Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council\'s approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Concerned Local, Soton says...
8:15pm Mon 25 Aug 08
about time wrote:Pot and kettle spring to mind, unless you've already applied?!!!
Rob wrote:put yourself forward to be a pcso then,,oops i forgot thats other peoples responsibility!!!Concerned Local wrote: Having experienced problems with local youths destroying everything in sight, I asked the police for help, but ended up feeling I was just a nuisance to them. Then the local PCSO stepped in and (touch wood)all has been quiet.... Maybe more visible Support Officers would deter these young hooligans and free up much needed police resources?I agree its the only way forward.
Ted, says...
8:33pm Mon 25 Aug 08
big knob, southampton says...
9:09pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Ted wrote:you forgot shirley warren,townhill park, bassett, sholing, st marys, northam estate all full of scum of the earth-one massive bomb and do them all
Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
PoormanIpityyou, here says...
9:11pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Denzil wrote:Maybe it's extremely common in the company you keep, which I dread to even comprehend you vile cretin.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.imigrant wrote:Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regardsDenzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Denzil, Chilworth says...
9:18pm Mon 25 Aug 08
PoormanIpityyou wrote:All of your post is utter rubbish but well done anyay. The people of this country are fed up with immigrants coming over and taking liberties. If you think any different then you are sadly mistaken.
Denzil wrote:Maybe it's extremely common in the company you keep, which I dread to even comprehend you vile cretin. Your attitude includes, judging by other posts, that you endorse peadophilia, children who die in road accidents deserve it, parents messed up by loss of kids deserve to die etc etc. How on earth can you believe most people share your views? Are you blind, look at the response your posts get. I pity you, you hateful little ****. crawl back under your rock slime ball.Paramjit Bahia wrote:That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.imigrant wrote:Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regardsDenzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Pity's too good for some, says...
9:18pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Major Sir Jerry Pending, Ward 10 says...
9:22pm Mon 25 Aug 08
jebus wrote:A simple answer - CUT OFF THEIR GOOLIES!!
It's called de-evolution. The people who are least fit to bring children into this world have the most children, the people who would have the means and the will to bring up children properly have very few chidren. I would happily see scumbags put down. They are just animals gone bad.
Deluded4inchissmall, bigknobsbed says...
9:23pm Mon 25 Aug 08
big knob wrote:Appropriate name, shame it's not to do with your actual penis.
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.you forgot shirley warren,townhill park, bassett, sholing, st marys, northam estate all full of scum of the earth-one massive bomb and do them all also might have somthing to do with all the polish all 25,000 of them.
PoormanIpityyou, says...
9:29pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Denzil wrote:Anyay? What's that, get an education you ****.
PoormanIpityyou wrote:All of your post is utter rubbish but well done anyay. The people of this country are fed up with immigrants coming over and taking liberties. If you think any different then you are sadly mistaken.Denzil wrote:Maybe it's extremely common in the company you keep, which I dread to even comprehend you vile cretin. Your attitude includes, judging by other posts, that you endorse peadophilia, children who die in road accidents deserve it, parents messed up by loss of kids deserve to die etc etc. How on earth can you believe most people share your views? Are you blind, look at the response your posts get. I pity you, you hateful little ****. crawl back under your rock slime ball.Paramjit Bahia wrote:That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.imigrant wrote:Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regardsDenzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
wiseup, thurrock essex says...
9:42pm Mon 25 Aug 08
methinks, everywhere says...
9:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
wiseup wrote:Lost cause here, Denzil who advocates evrything sick is a self proclaimed signed up member. You'll need to do something convincing to bring your case, no-one wants to be Denzil.
DO ANY OF YOU REALLY CARE FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND COUNTRY. You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative Governments You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative councillors You live in the environmental mess you voted in and blame every one else, but will you have learnt a lesson and wised up. Never Vote Labour / Conservative / liberal Ever Again Its your children\'s last hope for a future vote for them Vote BNP next election.
Musher, Chavsville says...
9:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Ted wrote:Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.
Denzil, Chilworth says...
9:59pm Mon 25 Aug 08
methinks wrote:Keep telling yourself that.
wiseup wrote: DO ANY OF YOU REALLY CARE FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND COUNTRY. You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative Governments You keep voting in consecutive Labour/ Conservative councillors You live in the environmental mess you voted in and blame every one else, but will you have learnt a lesson and wised up. Never Vote Labour / Conservative / liberal Ever Again Its your children\'s last hope for a future vote for them Vote BNP next election.Lost cause here, Denzil who advocates evrything sick is a self proclaimed signed up member. You'll need to do something convincing to bring your case, no-one wants to be Denzil.
methinks, everywhere says...
10:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08
In The Know, Soton says...
10:17pm Mon 25 Aug 08
methinks wrote:Congratulations, you have successfully been trolled. Don't feed the trolls!
So why are you so widespreadly despised. You make people want to be sick, if you think that's people agreeing with you it shows your level of dillusion. The echo should run a vote, who thinks Denzil's a pr/ck and who agrees, I think I know who what side would get the most votes.
John, SOUTHAMPTON says...
10:23pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Printer, Hampshire says...
12:43am Tue 26 Aug 08
live local, southampton says...
3:47am Tue 26 Aug 08
big guns, woolston says...
8:51am Tue 26 Aug 08
Leo, says...
9:11am Tue 26 Aug 08
Musher wrote:Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers.
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Guyman, soton says...
9:53am Tue 26 Aug 08
Batman, The Batcave says...
10:01am Tue 26 Aug 08
Katrina, Southampton says...
10:21am Tue 26 Aug 08
Leo wrote:I totllly agree, life is made far too easy for wasters - BUT that is no excuse to label people based on where they live - everybody is different!!!
Musher wrote:Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Musher, Chavsville,apparentl
y! says...
11:31am Tue 26 Aug 08
Leo wrote:Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!
Musher wrote:Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers.
Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it.
Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily.
As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.
Mike, Woolston says...
12:43pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Hugo Whittingham, Southampton says...
12:49pm Tue 26 Aug 08
and?, says...
12:52pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Big Steve wrote:Sadly, I'm not joking
and? wrote:Tell me you are joking - he can't possibly have held office, surely? He is incapable of stringing any sort of coherent statement together, and cannot comment on any subject without bringing "new labour" into the discussion.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-handRed Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
enoch andrews, southampton says...
1:04pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Leo, says...
1:04pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Musher wrote:I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing.
Leo wrote:Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!Musher wrote:Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Hugo Whittingham, Southampton says...
1:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Bring back hanging, Eastleigh says...
1:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08
D McCarthy, Bitterne Manor says...
1:16pm Tue 26 Aug 08
erm, says...
1:19pm Tue 26 Aug 08
I have lived in Chilworth all my life
c, says...
1:35pm Tue 26 Aug 08
erm wrote:If you have lived in chilworth all your life why are you slagging off shirley warren and millbrook, you get problems in all areas including chilworth.
Hugo Whittingham wrote:
I have lived in Chilworth all my life
not yet you haven't
TSB, says...
1:39pm Tue 26 Aug 08
mandem, H.M.P Winch says...
1:42pm Tue 26 Aug 08
JillyBee, Portswood says...
1:46pm Tue 26 Aug 08
k, says...
1:56pm Tue 26 Aug 08
JillyBee wrote:The police seem to pick and choose the incidents they want to attend, now if it was a car chase they would be fighting over who was going to attend, half the time they don't even bother to turn out when you phone them.
Lived here over 20 years and never had any problems myself, but my son and at lest one of his friends have.
My son got attacked, few years back, completely out of the blue, by someone he had never seen before, never even spoken to (not even then - he just got smacked in the face). The police were very good, and it went to court; turned out the lad already had an ASBO for this kind of thing. And what did he get this time? Another ASBO!
However, son's friend T got roughed up last year, in the middle of town, by a bunch of people he had annoyed (he'd been a bit rude about someone's ability to drive). Police just stood by and watched! T asked why they weren't doing anything, and they said there were "too many of them"! When T persisted, they threatened to arrest him instead. Local bouncer, who had watched the whole thing, said this wasn't at all unusual. Not sure what I think of the police, overall.
Musher, Chavsville,apparentl
y! says...
2:16pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Leo wrote:Quote:And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen .. Un quote. I'm law abiding, what does that make you then if you assume it's 50/50? Think before you jump in feet first!
Musher wrote:I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing.
Leo wrote:Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!Musher wrote:Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
It's the 3rd or 4th generations of the original occupants of places like Merry OakMillbrook etc that have no respect for their locations or people around them. I'm sure that when these places were built they didn't expect them to be inhabited by the lowlife that occupies them now.
And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen with a job however it's because of these namby pamby do-gooders that insist that certain sections of our society should look after such lowlife that we now have these council ghettos.
asterix, southampton says...
3:10pm Tue 26 Aug 08
joe, canada says...
3:20pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Individual, eastleigh says...
4:33pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Leo, says...
4:40pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Musher wrote:You're a bit sensitive aren't you Musher? I'm sure that there are law abiding citizens around your nice piece of social housing. Also, i know a lot of people who are disabled and can still work and don't claim benefits. This country is full of work shy people!
Leo wrote:Quote:And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen .. Un quote. I'm law abiding, what does that make you then if you assume it's 50/50? Think before you jump in feet first!Musher wrote:I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing. It's the 3rd or 4th generations of the original occupants of places like Merry OakMillbrook etc that have no respect for their locations or people around them. I'm sure that when these places were built they didn't expect them to be inhabited by the lowlife that occupies them now. And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen with a job however it's because of these namby pamby do-gooders that insist that certain sections of our society should look after such lowlife that we now have these council ghettos.Leo wrote:Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!Musher wrote:Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Musher, Chavsville, definately! says...
4:55pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Leo wrote:I've taken my teeth out, I'm NOT biting.
Musher wrote:You're a bit sensitive aren't you Musher? I'm sure that there are law abiding citizens around your nice piece of social housing. Also, i know a lot of people who are disabled and can still work and don't claim benefits. This country is full of work shy people!
Leo wrote:Quote:And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen .. Un quote. I'm law abiding, what does that make you then if you assume it's 50/50? Think before you jump in feet first!Musher wrote:I suspect you are an internet troll, if not then you're living up to the stereotype of a person living in social housing. It's the 3rd or 4th generations of the original occupants of places like Merry OakMillbrook etc that have no respect for their locations or people around them. I'm sure that when these places were built they didn't expect them to be inhabited by the lowlife that occupies them now. And yes I am stereotyping as I'm sure that for every lowlife there is a law abiding citizen with a job however it's because of these namby pamby do-gooders that insist that certain sections of our society should look after such lowlife that we now have these council ghettos.Leo wrote:Why does 'wind your neck in' make me (who you don't know at all!) a bad person? I happen also to live on benefits because of health reasons and my council home is in a moderate state of repair, the garden is tidy the inside is decorated to my and my wifes likes and I don't have a Ford Escort on bricks in the front. The problem stems from namsy pamsy do gooders who won't slap wrists when it is needed. So yes, wind your neck in as well Leo. You don't know what your talking about and I notice you haven't stated where YOU live. Some kind of CHAV estate maybe? We can't all live in Chillworth, not that I would want to anyway, have you seen it lately? Only last week I saw an Aston Martin on bricks in the heated double garage, scandalous!Musher wrote:Hmm, wind your neck in? By the sounds of it you sound like one of the BAD people of Merry Oak. It has its' fair shair of domestics, drug takers and drug pushers. It's social housing that has created the problem which is why I've targeted these areas. Although I'm stereotyping here you only have to study the type of people living in these communities and how they treat their homes and people around them to see why Southampton is considered violent. Mattresses in front gardens, Ford Escorts on bricks, you name it. Social housing was created for a different generation. Following WW2 people were grateful for council estate homes and treated them with respect. Nowadays it's a certainty that the best way to get your own cheap house is to get up the duff at 14 and start collecting kids and the associate benefits. These people that inhabit these houses do not show respect for their surroundings and that is passed on through the generations. Life is too easy with benefits and housing being handed out so easily. As for immigrants, well at least they have enough get up and go to improve their lives by moving to another country.Ted wrote: Merry Oak, Weston Towers, Thornhill, Millbrook, Harefield, I could go on however it's these areas that the thieves and criminals inhabit. 4 reasons why moving away is a good idea.Whoa there TED! I happen to live in Merry Oak and have done for nearly 30 years. It's no worse than any other area in this god forsaken c.untry. There are more GOOD people on these estates than bad ones. Wind your neck in. And yes, I would like to move away, away from this shi.te c.untry but I can't so I'm stuck with 'Merry Oak'. Got to go, I've got my chav and thieving course to attend!!
Artful Dodger, Millbrook says...
5:15pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Denzil wrote:Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though!
imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Artful Dodger, Millbrook says...
5:23pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Denzil wrote:That's right Denzil, you are Not the tiny minority, you are the Tiny Minded.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:That's the thing though, I'm not in the tiny minority and you know it. I think you will find my attitude is extremely common, and rightly so.imigrant wrote:Dear Fellow Immigrant, You may be new to this site. Regular visitors are used to Denzil's attitude. I am sure you will find that most British people are open minded and will give the credit where it is due. They know it that there are good and bad in all groups. So please do not let a tiny minority put you off. Kind regardsDenzil wrote:Excuse me sir, not meaning to be rude, but my home is here :)imigrant wrote:Well go home then if you don't like it. And don't ever, ever call me a skate again.Denzil wrote: It's not really that surprising now Southampton is infested with immigrants. Not quite sure how Skatesmouth avoided the top 3 though.OI! your the skate, us immigrants work hard to improve our lives and better our cumminities - sure we get a small % who are rejects. but most of us are very hard working , not like some of you lot.
Denzil the skate, says...
6:14pm Tue 26 Aug 08
realitycheck, the real world says...
7:08pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Individual wrote:Well seeing as New Zealand's natives are the Maori and they're shafted in terms of employability and recognition of culture by the immigrants ie Western Europeans, you defeat your own arguement.
i am not prejudice, but southampton has become foreigner central! since we britons (aka government) let them in, we loose our jobs and our cities to these people! we should become more like new zealand - you dont get in unless you have a profession that will help the community - thats why they have a very low crime rate! its becoming more dangerous as these foreigners make groups and clans and cause havoc in the city, so yes, southampton has become more violent because we believe we are getting workers for a lower wage and will work stupid hours, yet guaranteed these people are the cause to our problems. we follow our rules and laws, yet they get off scot free and do what they want - if we lived in their countries, we would have to follow their rules or we would be banged up for it within seconds! england has become a much lesser place to live - and im sure life would be better with out these people helping themselves to our life as we used to see it.
John, soton says...
8:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08
now in the north, bolton, from southampton says...
10:52pm Tue 26 Aug 08
and? wrote:funny you should say that....look up the side effects of fluoridation....unfo
Big Steve wrote:Sadly, I'm not jokingand? wrote:Tell me you are joking - he can't possibly have held office, surely? He is incapable of stringing any sort of coherent statement together, and cannot comment on any subject without bringing "new labour" into the discussion.Paramjit Bahia wrote:Once again this eejit uses a story as an excuse to get on his soapbox and preach to us mere mortals who have never held office. Get a grip, you has-been, stick to the subject-at-handRed Rooster wrote: So, faced with rising violent crime, the Conservative Council's approach is to: - cut funding for a crackdown on underage drinking - cut funding for behaviour work with difficult school children (who will probably grow up to be the thugs of tomorrow) - try to abolish the 101 number (although on that at least they failed) Viva Cameron!What you are saying is music to my socialist ears, but sadly the fact is policing is not done by the local council and bodies responsible for policing along with Hampshire Constabulary are the Home office and Hampshire Police Authority. I am sure you are more aware than ordinary lay person like myself that former dope smoking Home Secretary belongs to New Labour and the Chair of Hampshire Police Authority is also New Labour Councillor from Southampton. Yes the cut crazy policies of the local council do not exactly help the situation, but their impact (likely to be a big bang) will be felt after a while, but for the time being Southampton is paying the price for social engineering of years ago and lunacies of Blair and Brown.
Pete, Town says...
10:59pm Tue 26 Aug 08
TSB wrote:lol, reading that made me chuckle...
why is you all bad mouthin sholing. It aint that bad we as the occasional stabbin but nothin really bad. Its Weston you want to be really scared of.
now in the north, bolton, from southampton says...
11:01pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Lorraine Barter, Southampton says...
12:15pm Wed 27 Aug 08
rumdo wrote:You are right about the Bedford Place area, so many long term residents have been driven out by student noise nuisance and anti-social behaviour that there will soon be no one left to report crimes.
Iwas born,bred and lived in soton until 1986. Then went to London to work until 2000. Returned to the city I love and found a place full of dodgy fellas, hard drinking out of order chavs/chavesses and a student population out of all control ruining places like Bedford Place. Everybody under 35yrs seems to have lost respect for themselves and their fellow city dwellers. The police on the street,when you see them appear to be streetwise-less and fear the ruffians they have to deal with. Most appear too young and devoid of the life experience to deal with such a job in our city. Thank God I leave for Kuwait at the end of the year. No wonder Muslims despise us and our decadent ways. We dont care for ourselves, let alone for each other.
southampton1990, mansbridge says...
6:46pm Wed 27 Aug 08
cooper, Thornhill southampton says...
11:57pm Wed 27 Aug 08
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about time, soton says...
11:07am Mon 25 Aug 08