Bosco refuses to board plane

Bosco wins a last minute review of deportation case

Bosco wins a last minute review of deportation case

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Winchester Reporter

A MAN due to be deported back to Uganda is still in the UK after refusing to board his plane this morning.

Campaigners have been trying to save John 'Bosco' Nyombi from being sent back to the East African country where they fear he will be persecuted because of his sexuality.

The 38-year-old was due to fly from Gatwick Airport at 6.40am but the plane took off without him leaving him with the immigration services.

Neil Pugmire, a spokesman from the Diocese of Portsmouth, said: “We received a telephone call from John on a landline in Gatwick Airport telling me he had refused to get on the plane and that they had accepted that decision.

“He’s still being held at Gatwick Airport. I imagine that the immigration services are looking for a detention centre that they can take him to. That, we hope, will buy us some time for his solicitor to take some legal action – an injunction or a judicial review.”

A number of friends, work colleagues and campaigners also travelled up to the airport this morning to protest at his forced departure.

Colleagues at Stonham Housing Association, where he has worked almost since his arrival, launched a campaign and a petition, which they plan to send to the Home Office.

But Neil added that there had been no last minute review of his deportation from the government.

Bosco has been working with mentally ill people in the city for the past six years while his application to stay in the UK has been heard by the immigration authorities.

He fled to the UK from Uganda where homosexuality is illegal and carries a punishment of life in prison.

Bosco, as he is known, was also told his life could be in danger, after his brother, a high profile opposition campaigner, was murdered.

He was unexpectedly taken into custody this week after his last appeal was refused.

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4:25pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Adrian Smith says...

Excellent news.
Excellent news. Adrian Smith
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5:13pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Bill-B says...

All though I am not overly fond of homosexuals. it would seem a shame to send this man back to Uganda. It appears that whilst he has lived in the UK he has done nothing but good works. It would be a shame to punish a man for trying to do the right thing legally and morally. It would be nice to see the government show some compassion.
All though I am not overly fond of homosexuals. it would seem a shame to send this man back to Uganda. It appears that whilst he has lived in the UK he has done nothing but good works. It would be a shame to punish a man for trying to do the right thing legally and morally. It would be nice to see the government show some compassion. Bill-B
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5:19pm Sat 13 Sep 08

alby123 says...

This is good news.

Deport all the radical hate preachers and foreign criminals instead.
This is good news. Deport all the radical hate preachers and foreign criminals instead. alby123
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5:38pm Sat 13 Sep 08

obelisker says...

It would be churlish of me not be pleased for this bloke, it is the system and the totally unfair way that good people get deported and criminal filth are allowed to stay due to technical flaws. Bill-B, you totally spoil your congratulations with that pointless comment of 'not being overly fond of homosexuals', don't worry he's not going to ask you out on a date now he's staying!
It would be churlish of me not be pleased for this bloke, it is the system and the totally unfair way that good people get deported and criminal filth are allowed to stay due to technical flaws. Bill-B, you totally spoil your congratulations with that pointless comment of 'not being overly fond of homosexuals', don't worry he's not going to ask you out on a date now he's staying! obelisker
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5:59pm Sat 13 Sep 08

markpsouthampton says...

I have worked with Bosco for the last 2 years. The way he has been treated in the last few days is simply deplorable.
I only hope that Bosco is given more time to have his case heard.
I also hope that the echo is prepared to follow this story all the way even if that is to the airport. We simply cant let our goverment treat an individual as cattle to the slaughter.
He is to be handed straight over to Ugandan authorities by now and could face life in prison or worse.
All his friends are doing all they can to put pressure on the immegration agency, home office and airline to allow more time for the full case to be heard.
I have worked with Bosco for the last 2 years. The way he has been treated in the last few days is simply deplorable. I only hope that Bosco is given more time to have his case heard. I also hope that the echo is prepared to follow this story all the way even if that is to the airport. We simply cant let our goverment treat an individual as cattle to the slaughter. He is to be handed straight over to Ugandan authorities by now and could face life in prison or worse. All his friends are doing all they can to put pressure on the immegration agency, home office and airline to allow more time for the full case to be heard. markpsouthampton
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6:02pm Sat 13 Sep 08

markpsouthampton says...

http://www.gopetitio
n.com/petitions/john
-bosco-nyombi.html
http://www.new.faceb
ook.com/group.php?gi
d=75430080454
http://www.gopetitio n.com/petitions/john -bosco-nyombi.html http://www.new.faceb ook.com/group.php?gi d=75430080454 markpsouthampton
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6:48pm Sat 13 Sep 08

PaulHSouthampton says...

It is very important that anyone who feels this is wrong to help in any of the ways markpsouthampton has outlined. We cant let this happen.
It is very important that anyone who feels this is wrong to help in any of the ways markpsouthampton has outlined. We cant let this happen. PaulHSouthampton
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8:53pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Dr Alimantado says...

Good luck, hope they make the right decision
Good luck, hope they make the right decision Dr Alimantado
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9:32pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Karen Ambler says...

APPEAL LOST!!!!!
The deportation of John Bosco Nyombi (Bosco to his friends) is an outrage, He has made a contribution to society since he has been in the country, and genuinely fears for his life if sent back. His brother has already been murdered!!!!... how much more has to happen for him to be allowed to seek asylum in this country... The government has happily taken income taxes off him since he has been here, not to mention National Insurance! He has kept to all regulations set down and signed on as required, unlike alot of others who come in falsly seeking asylum, then go into hiding, work illegally, avoid paying income taxes etc etc..
The government have treated him worse than British treat their animals!! He will now be deported either to live out his life in custody or handed over to the tribes in Uganda, where he will be certain to meet his death... not because he ever commited a crime, but purely just because he is gay... It's an absolute disgrace... call us a humanitarian society!!!!!... Deporting Bosco is cruel and he will almost certainly meet his death when he arrives in Uganda.
APPEAL LOST!!!!! The deportation of John Bosco Nyombi (Bosco to his friends) is an outrage, He has made a contribution to society since he has been in the country, and genuinely fears for his life if sent back. His brother has already been murdered!!!!... how much more has to happen for him to be allowed to seek asylum in this country... The government has happily taken income taxes off him since he has been here, not to mention National Insurance! He has kept to all regulations set down and signed on as required, unlike alot of others who come in falsly seeking asylum, then go into hiding, work illegally, avoid paying income taxes etc etc.. The government have treated him worse than British treat their animals!! He will now be deported either to live out his life in custody or handed over to the tribes in Uganda, where he will be certain to meet his death... not because he ever commited a crime, but purely just because he is gay... It's an absolute disgrace... call us a humanitarian society!!!!!... Deporting Bosco is cruel and he will almost certainly meet his death when he arrives in Uganda. Karen Ambler
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10:01pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Finlay says...

Its good to see the laws that are made are executed without predjudice.

The Home Office would have investigated his claim that homos are persecuted before they rejected his application for asylum. I wonder what they came up with?

Homosexuality is a no no in many Caribbean Islands as well and it is not unusual to see homos beaten in the street while in view of an officer who never stops it unless screamed at by European or American tourists to do so.

This isnt a persecuted asylum seeker this is an economic migrant. Uganda has more than its fair share of so called persecuted ones banging on the doors of Britain to get in. Those that pass in are rarely seen again.

Take him to the airport and hold him there till the paperwork is done then boot his sorry *** outta there.

If the company he works for wants him enough they will take him as an international employee just like many companies and countries have done in the past.

So it really is bye bye then Bosco.
Its good to see the laws that are made are executed without predjudice. The Home Office would have investigated his claim that homos are persecuted before they rejected his application for asylum. I wonder what they came up with? Homosexuality is a no no in many Caribbean Islands as well and it is not unusual to see homos beaten in the street while in view of an officer who never stops it unless screamed at by European or American tourists to do so. This isnt a persecuted asylum seeker this is an economic migrant. Uganda has more than its fair share of so called persecuted ones banging on the doors of Britain to get in. Those that pass in are rarely seen again. Take him to the airport and hold him there till the paperwork is done then boot his sorry *** outta there. If the company he works for wants him enough they will take him as an international employee just like many companies and countries have done in the past. So it really is bye bye then Bosco. Finlay
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10:51pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Bright Spark says...

Des (above) comes from Iowa, land of Sioux City and the Indians. What did you Americans do to them?(that's you Americans who are all immigrants or children of immigrants, some legal, some not). Those Indians are now over here working in restaurants, corner shops and driving our buses and earning an honest wage, forced over here whilst you Americans stole their land and buffalo. So you lot across the pond aren't the best example to follow when it comes to immigration control, when your own distant fathers (probably British) near wiped out the Indian people.
Des (above) comes from Iowa, land of Sioux City and the Indians. What did you Americans do to them?(that's you Americans who are all immigrants or children of immigrants, some legal, some not). Those Indians are now over here working in restaurants, corner shops and driving our buses and earning an honest wage, forced over here whilst you Americans stole their land and buffalo. So you lot across the pond aren't the best example to follow when it comes to immigration control, when your own distant fathers (probably British) near wiped out the Indian people. Bright Spark
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11:06pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Miles Sway says...

This is a trickey one - the emotion and logic says he must stay, yet the law says he's illegal and must be deported although I was under the impression no-one is deported from the UK if facing persecution in their own country (Afghans weren't returned when the Taliban ruled for instance) so has something changed?
Reality is, Bosco is probably facing deportation for being an honest person - had he been a criminal low-life and gone on the run he'd probably not have been caught! Someone in authority needs a good slap - he's just the sort of person the UK needs.
This is a trickey one - the emotion and logic says he must stay, yet the law says he's illegal and must be deported although I was under the impression no-one is deported from the UK if facing persecution in their own country (Afghans weren't returned when the Taliban ruled for instance) so has something changed? Reality is, Bosco is probably facing deportation for being an honest person - had he been a criminal low-life and gone on the run he'd probably not have been caught! Someone in authority needs a good slap - he's just the sort of person the UK needs. Miles Sway
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11:27pm Sat 13 Sep 08

LornaDoone39 says...

For those who believe he should stay - and he should - there is an online petition that you can sign. Hopefully the reprieve he got this afternoon still stands so that he can have a decent amount of time for an appeal.

http://www.gopetitio
n.com/petitions/john
-bosco-nyombi/signat
ures.html

John deserves to stay - there is a growing number of people fighting for justice on his behalf, and justice is what he deserves.
For those who believe he should stay - and he should - there is an online petition that you can sign. Hopefully the reprieve he got this afternoon still stands so that he can have a decent amount of time for an appeal. http://www.gopetitio n.com/petitions/john -bosco-nyombi/signat ures.html John deserves to stay - there is a growing number of people fighting for justice on his behalf, and justice is what he deserves. LornaDoone39
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11:51pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Andy1969 says...

Bosco is a hard-working contributor to the UK community - financially and socially. He deserves to stay here without fear for his life.

http://www.savebosco
.net

Bosco's Supporters must rally to save him!

Bosco is a hard-working contributor to the UK community - financially and socially. He deserves to stay here without fear for his life. http://www.savebosco .net Bosco's Supporters must rally to save him! Andy1969
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9:29am Sun 14 Sep 08

markpsouthampton says...

Please remove the story. There was no appeal. They tried to put him on plane. Bosco refused.
If his case can be heard the legal teams see big holes in his case and think they have a chance. Its all about them having time to get an injunction.
Please remove the story. There was no appeal. They tried to put him on plane. Bosco refused. If his case can be heard the legal teams see big holes in his case and think they have a chance. Its all about them having time to get an injunction. markpsouthampton
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10:50am Sun 14 Sep 08

goard says...

I am pleased to hear Bosco is temporarily given leave to live in England. Goodness knows he must be in a state of flux with all the anxieties visited upon him. It says a lot that a community have joined hands to protect him and I would like to hear more of such communities assisting someone whatever faith or nationality and protect them from the ills of life. I should imagine that the Investigative Immigration team must surely hear tales of what appears sincere pleadings from undesirables to stay in the U.K. but I think it most important to have excellent references from a whole community. Best of luck for the future Bosco.

goard
I am pleased to hear Bosco is temporarily given leave to live in England. Goodness knows he must be in a state of flux with all the anxieties visited upon him. It says a lot that a community have joined hands to protect him and I would like to hear more of such communities assisting someone whatever faith or nationality and protect them from the ills of life. I should imagine that the Investigative Immigration team must surely hear tales of what appears sincere pleadings from undesirables to stay in the U.K. but I think it most important to have excellent references from a whole community. Best of luck for the future Bosco. goard goard
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10:57am Sun 14 Sep 08

obelisker says...

They told him to check in an hour before the flight, it's not the Airlines fault.
They told him to check in an hour before the flight, it's not the Airlines fault. obelisker
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11:27am Sun 14 Sep 08

Andy Locks Heath says...

Finlay wrote:
Its good to see the laws that are made are executed without predjudice.

The Home Office would have investigated his claim that homos are persecuted before they rejected his application for asylum. I wonder what they came up with?

Homosexuality is a no no in many Caribbean Islands as well and it is not unusual to see homos beaten in the street while in view of an officer who never stops it unless screamed at by European or American tourists to do so.

This isnt a persecuted asylum seeker this is an economic migrant. Uganda has more than its fair share of so called persecuted ones banging on the doors of Britain to get in. Those that pass in are rarely seen again.

Take him to the airport and hold him there till the paperwork is done then boot his sorry *** outta there.

If the company he works for wants him enough they will take him as an international employee just like many companies and countries have done in the past.

So it really is bye bye then Bosco.
THe problem is Finlay, people are getting a little tired of laws executed without prejudice. Bad laws are drawn up in the safety of Government committees without any notion of the circumstances in which those laws will be used. More frequently than ever in the UK people are seeing stupid decisions enacted sinply because "it is the law" and in cases like that of Bosco people are entitled to ask just what is the point of enforcing a law that nobody thinks serves any benefit except ss a point of principle? Furthermore as others have pointed out, the law is not executed without prejudice in any case. THis country has a moral cowardice in dealing with internal terrorism because of our politicans fears of being accused of racism, anti islamism, or just plain "causing offence". Marginal consituency politicians like Justice Minister Jack Straw cultivate ethnic votes just to get re-elected, thus we see the law wreaked on immigrant groups with no voting power like Bosco while foreign "clerics" on benefits who seem to afford expensive (Islamic) barristers who know how to play the system mock this country and its justice daily. This is what makes people angry. Blind ignorant justice is stupid justice, but corrupt unequal justice is far, far worse.
[quote][bold]Finlay[/bold] wrote: Its good to see the laws that are made are executed without predjudice. The Home Office would have investigated his claim that homos are persecuted before they rejected his application for asylum. I wonder what they came up with? Homosexuality is a no no in many Caribbean Islands as well and it is not unusual to see homos beaten in the street while in view of an officer who never stops it unless screamed at by European or American tourists to do so. This isnt a persecuted asylum seeker this is an economic migrant. Uganda has more than its fair share of so called persecuted ones banging on the doors of Britain to get in. Those that pass in are rarely seen again. Take him to the airport and hold him there till the paperwork is done then boot his sorry *** outta there. If the company he works for wants him enough they will take him as an international employee just like many companies and countries have done in the past. So it really is bye bye then Bosco.[/quote]THe problem is Finlay, people are getting a little tired of laws executed without prejudice. Bad laws are drawn up in the safety of Government committees without any notion of the circumstances in which those laws will be used. More frequently than ever in the UK people are seeing stupid decisions enacted sinply because "it is the law" and in cases like that of Bosco people are entitled to ask just what is the point of enforcing a law that nobody thinks serves any benefit except ss a point of principle? Furthermore as others have pointed out, the law is not executed without prejudice in any case. THis country has a moral cowardice in dealing with internal terrorism because of our politicans fears of being accused of racism, anti islamism, or just plain "causing offence". Marginal consituency politicians like Justice Minister Jack Straw cultivate ethnic votes just to get re-elected, thus we see the law wreaked on immigrant groups with no voting power like Bosco while foreign "clerics" on benefits who seem to afford expensive (Islamic) barristers who know how to play the system mock this country and its justice daily. This is what makes people angry. Blind ignorant justice is stupid justice, but corrupt unequal justice is far, far worse. Andy Locks Heath
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12:29pm Sun 14 Sep 08

obelisker says...

From the amount of kind and decent sounding supporters Bosco seems to have garnered one can only assume that he himself is a very nice bloke. Unfortunatly a radical Muslim cleric can also get the support of a thousand people who attend his mosque and they will all say what a great bloke he is, and what good work he does. Now I personally would like to fire him into space (the Cleric), but I have to let the Government of the day decide what to do, faced as they are with many legal shenanigans, and I am afraid that is what you must do. If I were him, and I really was faced with torture or death back home,I would leg it out of Southampton and keep a low profile in a major city, anything to survive, this does make me wonder a bit about Bosco's case I must say.
From the amount of kind and decent sounding supporters Bosco seems to have garnered one can only assume that he himself is a very nice bloke. Unfortunatly a radical Muslim cleric can also get the support of a thousand people who attend his mosque and they will all say what a great bloke he is, and what good work he does. Now I personally would like to fire him into space (the Cleric), but I have to let the Government of the day decide what to do, faced as they are with many legal shenanigans, and I am afraid that is what you must do. If I were him, and I really was faced with torture or death back home,I would leg it out of Southampton and keep a low profile in a major city, anything to survive, this does make me wonder a bit about Bosco's case I must say. obelisker
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1:30pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Bright Spark says...

Good News for Bosco - he has just found out that he was booked on an XL flight! :)
Good News for Bosco - he has just found out that he was booked on an XL flight! :) Bright Spark
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2:20pm Sun 14 Sep 08

give me a break says...

Bright Spark wrote:
Des (above) comes from Iowa, land of Sioux City and the Indians. What did you Americans do to them?(that's you Americans who are all immigrants or children of immigrants, some legal, some not). Those Indians are now over here working in restaurants, corner shops and driving our buses and earning an honest wage, forced over here whilst you Americans stole their land and buffalo. So you lot across the pond aren't the best example to follow when it comes to immigration control, when your own distant fathers (probably British) near wiped out the Indian people.
Not quite sure how many North American Indians run corner shops and drive UK buses ?
Think your facts are slightly muddles there mate.
Good luck to this guy, he has done all the right things worked paid taxes so what do they do they throw him out.
UK at it's best !!
[quote][bold]Bright Spark[/bold] wrote: Des (above) comes from Iowa, land of Sioux City and the Indians. What did you Americans do to them?(that's you Americans who are all immigrants or children of immigrants, some legal, some not). Those Indians are now over here working in restaurants, corner shops and driving our buses and earning an honest wage, forced over here whilst you Americans stole their land and buffalo. So you lot across the pond aren't the best example to follow when it comes to immigration control, when your own distant fathers (probably British) near wiped out the Indian people.[/quote]Not quite sure how many North American Indians run corner shops and drive UK buses ? Think your facts are slightly muddles there mate. Good luck to this guy, he has done all the right things worked paid taxes so what do they do they throw him out. UK at it's best !! give me a break
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2:28pm Sun 14 Sep 08

H.R.H. KING MUSH says...

Bright Spark wrote:
Good News for Bosco - he has just found out that he was booked on an XL flight! :)
Darn - beat me to it! I must get up earlier.

Latest news is that they are trying to get him on an Alitalia flight and now having a whipround Gatwick Airport for the fuel!
[quote][bold]Bright Spark[/bold] wrote: Good News for Bosco - he has just found out that he was booked on an XL flight! :)[/quote]Darn - beat me to it! I must get up earlier. Latest news is that they are trying to get him on an Alitalia flight and now having a whipround Gatwick Airport for the fuel! H.R.H. KING MUSH
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3:11pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Finlay says...

Bright Spark, Stubbington says...
10:51pm Sat 13 Sep 08

Des (above) comes from Iowa, land of Sioux City and the Indians. What did you Americans do to them?(that's you Americans who are all immigrants or children of immigrants, some legal, some not). Those Indians are now over here working in restaurants, corner shops and driving our buses and earning an honest wage, forced over here whilst you Americans stole their land and buffalo. So you lot across the pond aren't the best example to follow when it comes to immigration control, when your own distant fathers (probably British) near wiped out the Indian people.

So in a nut shell you're saying I am single handedly responsible for the destruction of the indigenous Americans(aka Indians just cos Columbus lost his way they have been titled Indians) - Soiux City borders S Dakota and is where the Blackfoot come from - There are Fox, Sioux, Saut, Mesquaki and Hawkeye Indians. The tribes have their own police, laws, taxation, huge and copious amounts of money from their casinos. As well as medical, schooling etc etc etc - They support themselves and at the settlement (not reservation) there are Cherokee, Apache and many other southern tribal people who have travelled up from the south voluntarily.

The Europeans destroyed the tribes here cos they carved up their lands and didnt want the white mans iron horses crossing their land. Many people paid with their lives. The invaders then killed the Buffalo/Caribou to almost extinction - Why? So as to starve the Tribes out. In winter there is nothing but snow and ice here - It must have been terrible for them.

I have a good friend in the Fox and a tribal elder - I sat at the head during a Pow Wow recently on the invitation of my friend Little Bear and the tribal council. They are good people. But I didnt/wouldnt kill these people - I adore them.

The white man here is the immigrant and the number of Czechs, Swedes, Hungarians and French here is amazing. The Swedes built Chicago - I was amazed when I heard that.

One thing is for sure - If I break any law, State, Federal or Tribal - I get booted out and that even includes application infringements such as Boscoe has done here.

Besides he's probably back home by now. Move on.

Bright Spark, Stubbington says... 10:51pm Sat 13 Sep 08 Des (above) comes from Iowa, land of Sioux City and the Indians. What did you Americans do to them?(that's you Americans who are all immigrants or children of immigrants, some legal, some not). Those Indians are now over here working in restaurants, corner shops and driving our buses and earning an honest wage, forced over here whilst you Americans stole their land and buffalo. So you lot across the pond aren't the best example to follow when it comes to immigration control, when your own distant fathers (probably British) near wiped out the Indian people. So in a nut shell you're saying I am single handedly responsible for the destruction of the indigenous Americans(aka Indians just cos Columbus lost his way they have been titled Indians) - Soiux City borders S Dakota and is where the Blackfoot come from - There are Fox, Sioux, Saut, Mesquaki and Hawkeye Indians. The tribes have their own police, laws, taxation, huge and copious amounts of money from their casinos. As well as medical, schooling etc etc etc - They support themselves and at the settlement (not reservation) there are Cherokee, Apache and many other southern tribal people who have travelled up from the south voluntarily. The Europeans destroyed the tribes here cos they carved up their lands and didnt want the white mans iron horses crossing their land. Many people paid with their lives. The invaders then killed the Buffalo/Caribou to almost extinction - Why? So as to starve the Tribes out. In winter there is nothing but snow and ice here - It must have been terrible for them. I have a good friend in the Fox and a tribal elder - I sat at the head during a Pow Wow recently on the invitation of my friend Little Bear and the tribal council. They are good people. But I didnt/wouldnt kill these people - I adore them. The white man here is the immigrant and the number of Czechs, Swedes, Hungarians and French here is amazing. The Swedes built Chicago - I was amazed when I heard that. One thing is for sure - If I break any law, State, Federal or Tribal - I get booted out and that even includes application infringements such as Boscoe has done here. Besides he's probably back home by now. Move on. Finlay
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3:16pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Old Jester says...

One wonders whether a successful appeal might set a legal precedent, such that anyone (be they gay or straight) arriving in the UK from a nation that has perceived institutionalized homophobia would have a sound argument for asylum. In the case of Bosco however, I agree with the majority here, sounds like a good person and I hope that he gets to stay.
One wonders whether a successful appeal might set a legal precedent, such that anyone (be they gay or straight) arriving in the UK from a nation that has perceived institutionalized homophobia would have a sound argument for asylum. In the case of Bosco however, I agree with the majority here, sounds like a good person and I hope that he gets to stay. Old Jester
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3:19pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Finlay says...

To add Indians are in the UK totally voluntarily - Their tribes support them to the tune of $4000/month just for being an Indian. When kids graduate they get $10000 and married they get $50000 on top of the monthly payments all tax free. So why would they want to go to Europe to get zero and end up washing dishes? Because they are free to do so thats why.

The Indians do well some cant deal with money and drink too much but no more than many white men.

Indian tribes set up stake taxes on the withe man where they taxed every post put in the ground they exchange quantities of this revenue for casino licenses and the Mesquaki Casino pumps $150M/year into the tribal coffers
To add Indians are in the UK totally voluntarily - Their tribes support them to the tune of $4000/month just for being an Indian. When kids graduate they get $10000 and married they get $50000 on top of the monthly payments all tax free. So why would they want to go to Europe to get zero and end up washing dishes? Because they are free to do so thats why. The Indians do well some cant deal with money and drink too much but no more than many white men. Indian tribes set up stake taxes on the withe man where they taxed every post put in the ground they exchange quantities of this revenue for casino licenses and the Mesquaki Casino pumps $150M/year into the tribal coffers Finlay
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4:14pm Sun 14 Sep 08

LornaDoone39 says...

I would urge anyone who sees the injustice that is being done to John by the Home Office to sign the online petition at

http://www.gopetitio
n.com/petitions/john
-bosco-nyombi/signat
ures.html

Signatures are now coming in from as far a field as Spain and California - please add your name, every one of them helps John's case.

Thank you
I would urge anyone who sees the injustice that is being done to John by the Home Office to sign the online petition at http://www.gopetitio n.com/petitions/john -bosco-nyombi/signat ures.html Signatures are now coming in from as far a field as Spain and California - please add your name, every one of them helps John's case. Thank you LornaDoone39
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9:26pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Dr Alimantado says...

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Finlay wrote:Its good to see the laws that are made are executed without predjudice.The Home Office would have investigated his claim that homos are persecuted before they rejected his application for asylum. I wonder what they came up with?Homosexuality is a no no in many Caribbean Islands as well and it is not unusual to see homos beaten in the street while in view of an officer who never stops it unless screamed at by European or American tourists to do so. This isnt a persecuted asylum seeker this is an economic migrant. Uganda has more than its fair share of so called persecuted ones banging on the doors of Britain to get in. Those that pass in are rarely seen again. Take him to the airport and hold him there till the paperwork is done then boot his sorry *** outta there. If the company he works for wants him enough they will take him as an international employee just like many companies and countries have done in the past.So it really is bye bye then Bosco.THe problem is Finlay, people are getting a little tired of laws executed without prejudice. Bad laws are drawn up in the safety of Government committees without any notion of the circumstances in which those laws will be used. More frequently than ever in the UK people are seeing stupid decisions enacted sinply because "it is the law" and in cases like that of Bosco people are entitled to ask just what is the point of enforcing a law that nobody thinks serves any benefit except ss a point of principle? Furthermore as others have pointed out, the law is not executed without prejudice in any case. THis country has a moral cowardice in dealing with internal terrorism because of our politicans fears of being accused of racism, anti islamism, or just plain "causing offence". Marginal consituency politicians like Justice Minister Jack Straw cultivate ethnic votes just to get re-elected, thus we see the law wreaked on immigrant groups with no voting power like Bosco while foreign "clerics" on benefits who seem to afford expensive (Islamic) barristers who know how to play the system mock this country and its justice daily. This is what makes people angry. Blind ignorant justice is stupid justice, but corrupt unequal justice is far, far worse.
excellent post
[quote][bold]Andy Locks Heath[/bold] wrote: Finlay wrote:Its good to see the laws that are made are executed without predjudice.The Home Office would have investigated his claim that homos are persecuted before they rejected his application for asylum. I wonder what they came up with?Homosexuality is a no no in many Caribbean Islands as well and it is not unusual to see homos beaten in the street while in view of an officer who never stops it unless screamed at by European or American tourists to do so. This isnt a persecuted asylum seeker this is an economic migrant. Uganda has more than its fair share of so called persecuted ones banging on the doors of Britain to get in. Those that pass in are rarely seen again. Take him to the airport and hold him there till the paperwork is done then boot his sorry *** outta there. If the company he works for wants him enough they will take him as an international employee just like many companies and countries have done in the past.So it really is bye bye then Bosco.THe problem is Finlay, people are getting a little tired of laws executed without prejudice. Bad laws are drawn up in the safety of Government committees without any notion of the circumstances in which those laws will be used. More frequently than ever in the UK people are seeing stupid decisions enacted sinply because "it is the law" and in cases like that of Bosco people are entitled to ask just what is the point of enforcing a law that nobody thinks serves any benefit except ss a point of principle? Furthermore as others have pointed out, the law is not executed without prejudice in any case. THis country has a moral cowardice in dealing with internal terrorism because of our politicans fears of being accused of racism, anti islamism, or just plain "causing offence". Marginal consituency politicians like Justice Minister Jack Straw cultivate ethnic votes just to get re-elected, thus we see the law wreaked on immigrant groups with no voting power like Bosco while foreign "clerics" on benefits who seem to afford expensive (Islamic) barristers who know how to play the system mock this country and its justice daily. This is what makes people angry. Blind ignorant justice is stupid justice, but corrupt unequal justice is far, far worse.[/quote]excellent post Dr Alimantado
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9:41pm Sun 14 Sep 08

kathleend says...

i have worked with bosco for the last four years and love him dearly,i think he has made himself an easy target by always doing what the goverment has asked of him and he`s easy to find and kick out so the goverment can now say they`re doing soming about immagration.bosco has always worked,paid taxes and added a great deal to our country,if he`d murdered somebody he`d be able to stay.if we let him go our country will be the worst for it,let him stay. (give them hell bosco, dont let the bastards grind you down)kath d xxx
i have worked with bosco for the last four years and love him dearly,i think he has made himself an easy target by always doing what the goverment has asked of him and he`s easy to find and kick out so the goverment can now say they`re doing soming about immagration.bosco has always worked,paid taxes and added a great deal to our country,if he`d murdered somebody he`d be able to stay.if we let him go our country will be the worst for it,let him stay. (give them hell bosco, dont let the bastards grind you down)kath d xxx kathleend
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10:26pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Nod says...

It seems that to fill their "quota" of deportations, the Government take away the illegal imigrants who only want to integrate and add to our country.

The ones that we really should be getting rid of are probably too hard to find.
It seems that to fill their "quota" of deportations, the Government take away the illegal imigrants who only want to integrate and add to our country. The ones that we really should be getting rid of are probably too hard to find. Nod
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5:09am Mon 15 Sep 08

Big Boy says...

Bright Spark, Stubbington, please make your 'trolling' a little more subtle.

Finlay - Eminent domain
Bright Spark, Stubbington, please make your 'trolling' a little more subtle. Finlay - Eminent domain Big Boy
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2:58pm Mon 15 Sep 08

Wydowson says...

Britain is Great because of the people who have immigrated and brought so much with them. Bosco is a fine human being, who contributes to the lives of many other people both professionally and personally.

He is someone who adds to the Greatness of Britain.

I'm proud to be part of a Britain that recognises and supports people based on their abilities.

If Bosco is made to leave I will be forever ashamed of my Nation.
Britain is Great because of the people who have immigrated and brought so much with them. Bosco is a fine human being, who contributes to the lives of many other people both professionally and personally. He is someone who adds to the Greatness of Britain. I'm proud to be part of a Britain that recognises and supports people based on their abilities. If Bosco is made to leave I will be forever ashamed of my Nation. Wydowson
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11:27pm Mon 15 Sep 08

B. L. says...

Andy, Locks Heath - brilliant post, couldn't have put it better myself. Well, without stirring up the usual hornet's nest, you know how that goes in the PC society.
Andy, Locks Heath - brilliant post, couldn't have put it better myself. Well, without stirring up the usual hornet's nest, you know how that goes in the PC society. B. L.
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11:49pm Mon 15 Sep 08

Snowman says...

Bright Spark, I think you need to delete "bright" from your user name. You wouldn't know a Native American if you saw one unless he was dressed in tribal costume. Methinks you are confused with East Indian and West Indian bus drivers and people who work in restaurants and corner shops.It is true the Europeans destroyed the Native American's early way of life ,but you need to inform yourself a little more. By the way Des Moines is a place and Finlay not all tribes have the benefit of land claims or economic financial rewards.I am Native American and have lived in Southampton. .. I wish Bosco well in a land of prejudice called England.
Bright Spark, I think you need to delete "bright" from your user name. You wouldn't know a Native American if you saw one unless he was dressed in tribal costume. Methinks you are confused with East Indian and West Indian bus drivers and people who work in restaurants and corner shops.It is true the Europeans destroyed the Native American's early way of life ,but you need to inform yourself a little more. By the way Des Moines is a place and Finlay not all tribes have the benefit of land claims or economic financial rewards.I am Native American and have lived in Southampton. .. I wish Bosco well in a land of prejudice called England. Snowman
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12:36am Tue 16 Sep 08

H.R.H. KING MUSH says...

Snowman talk heap big rubbish and with forked tongue.

He accuses one poster of 'not being able to recognise and qualify a Native Indian' etc and then lumps in what I perceive to be a quasi-racist slur on 'East Indian' (?) and West Indian bus drivers + restaurants etc.

I think that most of us are well aware of the terrible injustices suffered by the (mostly) European settlers but this is on a landmass that leaves England as a comparible dot. It has always been human nature whenever one race, creed or colour happens to go a conquering and discovering.

Why not rake up a few thousand years of history at the same time?


Why not dig up the old slavery routine as the Southern States were enriched by this source? The demographics of the modern USA show the clear numerical differences between Native Indians and black orientated beginnings.


Then - why not take a look at the African slave traders? Many of them being of Arab descent and their own black negroid 'brothers' who sold them down the river and across the ocean.

Then start reading (or just Googling) some English history - try William Wilberforce and others who kick started the abolition of slavery etc.

England = the Land of Prejudice?

You cannot blame anyone for being 'tribal' and not to be confused with perceived racism. Our small island cannot assimilate the rest of the world's immigrant traffic. How come America doesnt allow them in? The place is big enough!
Snowman talk heap big rubbish and with forked tongue. He accuses one poster of 'not being able to recognise and qualify a Native Indian' etc and then lumps in what I perceive to be a quasi-racist slur on 'East Indian' (?) and West Indian bus drivers + restaurants etc. I think that most of us are well aware of the terrible injustices suffered by the (mostly) European settlers but this is on a landmass that leaves England as a comparible dot. It has always been human nature whenever one race, creed or colour happens to go a conquering and discovering. Why not rake up a few thousand years of history at the same time? Why not dig up the old slavery routine as the Southern States were enriched by this source? The demographics of the modern USA show the clear numerical differences between Native Indians and black orientated beginnings. Then - why not take a look at the African slave traders? Many of them being of Arab descent and their own black negroid 'brothers' who sold them down the river and across the ocean. Then start reading (or just Googling) some English history - try William Wilberforce and others who kick started the abolition of slavery etc. England = the Land of Prejudice? You cannot blame anyone for being 'tribal' and not to be confused with perceived racism. Our small island cannot assimilate the rest of the world's immigrant traffic. How come America doesnt allow them in? The place is big enough! H.R.H. KING MUSH
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5:11am Tue 16 Sep 08

Snowman says...

Hey Mush, I didnt rake up history, I responded to Bright Sparks post. As for quasi racist slur , are you for real?..this is based purely on observation. So its OK for another moron to quote but not someone from abroad. . Yes prejudice.. have you checked out other news items on this site??.. . and "How come America doesn't let them in"? Let who in ? better ask Bush baby that I guess..Your last paragraph doesn't make sense..Oh and please leave out the kindergarten jargon.. LMAO.
Hey Mush, I didnt rake up history, I responded to Bright Sparks post. As for quasi racist slur , are you for real?..this is based purely on observation. So its OK for another moron to quote but not someone from abroad. . Yes prejudice.. have you checked out other news items on this site??.. . and "How come America doesn't let them in"? Let who in ? better ask Bush baby that I guess..Your last paragraph doesn't make sense..Oh and please leave out the kindergarten jargon.. LMAO. Snowman
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5:12am Tue 16 Sep 08

Snowman says...

Hey Mush, I didnt rake up history, I responded to Bright Sparks post. As for quasi racist slur , are you for real?..this is based purely on observation. So its OK for another moron to quote but not someone from abroad. . Yes prejudice.. have you checked out other news items on this site??.. . and "How come America doesn't let them in"? Let who in ? better ask Bush baby that I guess..Your last paragraph doesn't make sense..Oh and please leave out the kindergarten jargon.. LMAO.
Hey Mush, I didnt rake up history, I responded to Bright Sparks post. As for quasi racist slur , are you for real?..this is based purely on observation. So its OK for another moron to quote but not someone from abroad. . Yes prejudice.. have you checked out other news items on this site??.. . and "How come America doesn't let them in"? Let who in ? better ask Bush baby that I guess..Your last paragraph doesn't make sense..Oh and please leave out the kindergarten jargon.. LMAO. Snowman
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