Pupils go on rampage at city school (From Daily Echo)

Tom Bargate wrote:
Northamboy, I don't agree with your views on corporal punishment. Somehow my son has turned into a polite, helpful, considerate and hardworking teenager without the benefit of slipper, ruler, cane or even a raised hand. But, that aside, none of these sanctions are apparently available in any school yet we do not see problems like we saw last week at Mayfield. Do you think it's worth considering that there may be a problem at the school even if we don't condone the way the pupils have chosen to draw attention to it?

mazzie wrote:
My daughter was in yr 8 at the mayfield academy (grove rd site) & she has had nothing but problems since starting in sept. I have approached the staff on a number of occassions with concerns about bullying but i might as well bang my head against a brick wall. The fact that its boys doing the bullying makes things worse.... we are now looking at an alternative school today with the intention of moving her else where. When she was in yr 7 at woolston language college she had the best academic year since starting school... & that is going to waste due to the staff at mayfield not seeming to give a crap about the pupils.

Tom Bargate wrote:
Northamboy, I don't agree with your views on corporal punishment. Somehow my son has turned into a polite, helpful, considerate and hardworking teenager without the benefit of slipper, ruler, cane or even a raised hand.

But, that aside, none of these sanctions are apparently available in any school yet we do not see problems like we saw last week at Mayfield. Do you think it's worth considering that there may be a problem at the school even if we don't condone the way the pupils have chosen to draw attention to it?

woolstonstudents wrote:
As students at oasis mayfield, we are offended and upset about being called chav scum by forest resident. We are young people trying to get the best education we can in a less than perfect situation. I wonder how forest resident would have reacted to being called the same when he or she was at school. As always the people that were causing the problem are diffrent from the people that genuinely have concerns. All we want is to learn in a nice enviorment, and be listened to and respected by staff and other students. Please stop writing bad things about us as we did not want the school to merge but it happened anyway and we are trying to get on with learning.

Forest Resident wrote:
Bring in parenting licenses and then the chav scum offspring that cause such events will eventually cease to exist. Simple.

Georgem wrote:

Forest Resident wrote: Bring in parenting licenses and then the chav scum offspring that cause such events will eventually cease to exist. Simple.

Yeh brilliant idea. Erm. What do you do with any unlicensed kids? Put them down?

Georgem wrote:

Forest Resident wrote: Bring in parenting licenses and then the chav scum offspring that cause such events will eventually cease to exist. Simple.

Yeh brilliant idea. Erm. What do you do with any unlicensed kids? Put them down?

Forest Resident wrote:

woolstonstudents wrote: As students at oasis mayfield, we are offended and upset about being called chav scum by forest resident. We are young people trying to get the best education we can in a less than perfect situation. I wonder how forest resident would have reacted to being called the same when he or she was at school. As always the people that were causing the problem are diffrent from the people that genuinely have concerns. All we want is to learn in a nice enviorment, and be listened to and respected by staff and other students. Please stop writing bad things about us as we did not want the school to merge but it happened anyway and we are trying to get on with learning.

woolstonstudents, if you read my post correctly you will realise that the only individuals I labelled 'chav scum' are those students actually directly responsible for this reprehensible behaviour. I have no doubt they are in the minority, but unless challenged and appropriately disciplined they will only serve to tarnish the good nature and hard work of the majority of students at Oasis Mayfield.

Northamboy wrote:
The cane, slipper, ruler, stay behind after school, no more gadgets to keep them quiet, in bed by 8pm, not allowed out for a week at a time, speak only when spoken to, no pocket money. All of the above is within the power of the schools and parents if only the threat of being prosecuted could be lifted by the namby pamby Government. I was a child in the 50s and that is exactly what I was A CHILD! not a young person or an 'individual with rights' At the risk of sounding like my dad "it never did me any harm" Lets get the notion of these children just being small adults out of the way, they are not small adults they are children and should be taught right from wrong and how to behave in private and in public. I will not respond if do gooders say "oh you cant do that" so don't bother to post up. The decent people in our society know that this is the answer and have been crying out for it for the past fifteen years or more. How did we let the do gooders get away with it over the past few years? They have changed our kids into mini adults without them being taught the basics of being taught how to behave in a decent society. 99% of children are good kids but the 1% are starting to drag the rest down to their level and it needs stopping before we lose everything decent about our kids. Of course all of the above will not happen and it will continue its downward spiral. Shame but this is England in the 21st century and we are stuck with it unless someone in power wakes up and removes the threat of the law from those who could make a difference, the parents and the teachers. This has been a complete waste of time writing this but at least I have had my say.

Forest Resident wrote:

Georgem wrote:

Forest Resident wrote: Bring in parenting licenses and then the chav scum offspring that cause such events will eventually cease to exist. Simple.

Yeh brilliant idea. Erm. What do you do with any unlicensed kids? Put them down?

No, you allow them to be fostered/adopted by the large number of highly capable couples who are unfortunate enough to not be able to have children of their own.

Anyone who kids themselves that there is not an increasing 'underclass' growing within society is clearly delusional. A decent upbringing begins at home and can only ever be reinfored by schools, and if the parenting is not sufficient then an ever increasing number of abhorrent generations will continue to develop and there is nothing that schools such as Oasis Mayfield can do about it. Why should those of us in society who work hard and pay our way have to put up with those who don't ruining society for the rest of us?

Year11 Student wrote:
I am a Year 11 student at the old Woolston site and I think it is necessary that the students should have a say in this. Why do parents of pupils and other adults feel they have a view to share when they weren't there and have no understanding of the situation. The press are being lied to, for instance when Ruth Johnson is quoted saying, "a small minority", the truth is that there was between 100 and 150 students who were all standing up for what they believe should be changed. It shocks me that Ruth Johnson would consider a "a very short space of time" to be almost an entire lesson. We may be children but we are not barbarians, under no circumstances were "bits of wood" used as weapons. The following day we were all gathered in the main hall where we were shown TVs with cables ripped off and ceiling pannels torn down. How can they say so little damage was done when we were shown this in one room alone. This wasn't our intention, it originally began with us making a stand to make ourselves heard. We were filtered through one set of doors in an attempt to get us to return to our classrooms. However tensions rose and one thing led to another. Whilst the vast majority of students do not condone what happened, it was a result of sheer frustration due to a lack of promised facilities. This was not a clash between students from the two old schools, but a stand against the new system and the lack of respect. The reason this all happened was because we aren't being listened to, and yet again it's a one sided portrayal of the truth in the newspapers. I hope this can shed some light on the situation.

john do wrote:
i am proodected to get a-a*s and i totlaly agree with them but they did not do thing correctly

naimbrain wrote:
Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised.
What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

john do wrote:
predicted
sorry about spelling

Gilmore wrote:
This is a great example of the power of uniting, organising, sticking together, for the individuals and the collective, for the oppressed and the ignored. Nice work, pupils of Oasis Academy.

"If the kids are united, then we'll never be divided."

- SHAM 69

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote:
Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised.
What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote:
Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised.
What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

Andy Locks Heath wrote:

Gilmore wrote:
This is a great example of the power of uniting, organising, sticking together, for the individuals and the collective, for the oppressed and the ignored. Nice work, pupils of Oasis Academy.

"If the kids are united, then we'll never be divided."

- SHAM 69

The pupils display an intelligence that exceeds that of some adults such a Gilmore. This clown thinks that a riot is an example of unity and organisation, when anyone who has witnessed a riot knows that a riot represents a complete breakdown of structure and organisation. But then Gilmore gets his experience from a little book, not from reality

john do wrote:
students and staff have no say on what happens within the school only mrs. johnson who is so stuck up can change things and she is not doing anything

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Well said Northamboy. If Denzil's too thick to understand your use of hyperbole to emphasise your point it's no surprise that he's also too dumb to hide the fact when he responds.

hmmc5r wrote:

john do wrote:
students and staff have no say on what happens within the school only mrs. johnson who is so stuck up can change things and she is not doing anything

This rather splendid head teacher came from the Cantel school in the city. She was so highly regarded by her colleagues that they decided to throw her a leaving party and didn't send her an invite.

mazzie wrote:
My daughter was in yr 8 at the mayfield academy (grove rd site) & she has had nothing but problems since starting in sept. I have approached the staff on a number of occassions with concerns about bullying but i might as well bang my head against a brick wall. The fact that its boys doing the bullying makes things worse.... we are now looking at an alternative school today with the intention of moving her else where. When she was in yr 7 at woolston language college she had the best academic year since starting school... & that is going to waste due to the staff at mayfield not seeming to give a crap about the pupils.

john do wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote:
Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised.
What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

how do you say that. we live in a democracy not dictatorship. we are the students of that school and i believe we should have a say in what is happening within OUR school.

Gilmore wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote:
Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised.
What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

Poor George, getting on a bit and realising that maybe he should have stood up for himself a bit more. Or have you always agreed with everything everyone's ever told you to do?

You might think teenagers are a lower form of life, sir, who deserve less rights, recognition and respect, however one day they'll be running things. If you don't listen to their side of the story now, who's to say they'll listen to your side of the story in twenty years when they're closing down your care home to cut costs?

Get with the program.

craig123 wrote:
I am a student at oasis academy mayfield and i have to say that the teachers are not prepared for the travel issues i mean they have very little time to transfer from school to school because a lesson is ended early meaning that we are missing out on our education (not that im complaining) but how am i or any of my friends supposed to get a good mark if teachers dont even turn up when they are supposed to?

The protest on the field was about the school uniform and that we want respect

a teacher said to me "i think us teachers deserve respect"
and my friend said " why should we give you respect if you give us none in return?"
which the teacher had no reply too.

Gilmore wrote:

Andy Locks Heath wrote:

Gilmore wrote:
This is a great example of the power of uniting, organising, sticking together, for the individuals and the collective, for the oppressed and the ignored. Nice work, pupils of Oasis Academy.

"If the kids are united, then we'll never be divided."

- SHAM 69

The pupils display an intelligence that exceeds that of some adults such a Gilmore. This clown thinks that a riot is an example of unity and organisation, when anyone who has witnessed a riot knows that a riot represents a complete breakdown of structure and organisation. But then Gilmore gets his experience from a little book, not from reality

Alright, maybe I should have been more clear in that the "riot" was obviously not the way to go about things. I was actually complimenting their protest.

God knows what little book you're on about. I've been on plenty of protests.

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote: Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised. What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

how do you say that. we live in a democracy not dictatorship. we are the students of that school and i believe we should have a say in what is happening within OUR school.

Right. You should. A say. That doesn't mean going on a rampage whenever you're feeling a bit miffed. And I never said we lived in a democracy, did I?

supergirl wrote:
Geaorgem you speak a load of rubbish u dnt kno what its like to go to this school !!1

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote: Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised. What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

how do you say that. we live in a democracy not dictatorship. we are the students of that school and i believe we should have a say in what is happening within OUR school.

Right. You should. A say. That doesn't mean going on a rampage whenever you're feeling a bit miffed. And I never said we lived in a democracy, did I?

Well, either Southampton has moved since i last looked out the window, or you're not in the same southampton as us, in which case i don't see how you can reasonably comment on the situation.

john do wrote:
georgem
get a life m8
i think u should look up the words dictatorship and democracy be4 u start making comments about thing

Georgem wrote:

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote: Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised. What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

how do you say that. we live in a democracy not dictatorship. we are the students of that school and i believe we should have a say in what is happening within OUR school.

Right. You should. A say. That doesn't mean going on a rampage whenever you're feeling a bit miffed. And I never said we lived in a democracy, did I?

Well, either Southampton has moved since i last looked out the window, or you're not in the same southampton as us, in which case i don't see how you can reasonably comment on the situation.

How so? Because of the whole "we live in a democracy" thing? Um. Would you like to buy some of these magic beans I've got? I can reasonably comment on the situation because, although we don't actually live in a free country per se, I am afforded a certain amount of freedom of speech. And I also went to school, and have been around human beings, and know that rioting in school is unlikely to have the desired effect. Simple really

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote:
georgem
get a life m8
i think u should look up the words dictatorship and democracy be4 u start making comments about thing

This will be derived from your extensive years of experience in politics, will it? We're not in a dictatorship, but we're certainly not in a democracy. It isn't an either-or situation, y'know.

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote: Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised. What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

how do you say that. we live in a democracy not dictatorship. we are the students of that school and i believe we should have a say in what is happening within OUR school.

Right. You should. A say. That doesn't mean going on a rampage whenever you're feeling a bit miffed. And I never said we lived in a democracy, did I?

Well, either Southampton has moved since i last looked out the window, or you're not in the same southampton as us, in which case i don't see how you can reasonably comment on the situation.

How so? Because of the whole "we live in a democracy" thing? Um. Would you like to buy some of these magic beans I've got? I can reasonably comment on the situation because, although we don't actually live in a free country per se, I am afforded a certain amount of freedom of speech. And I also went to school, and have been around human beings, and know that rioting in school is unlikely to have the desired effect. Simple really

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

So by your argument, because you went to school, you understand everything that goes on in schools enough to make a reasonable argument about a topic involving one? And has no-one ever told you that everyone is unique? I've spent time around human beings, yet i wouldn't say i know how everyone thinks. Besides, most of these people arent saying rioting would have the desired affect, but there's a difference between rioting and protesting.

john do wrote:

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote:
georgem
get a life m8
i think u should look up the words dictatorship and democracy be4 u start making comments about thing

This will be derived from your extensive years of experience in politics, will it? We're not in a dictatorship, but we're certainly not in a democracy. It isn't an either-or situation, y'know.

u go to my school 4 a day and i bet u will end up walking out

john do wrote:
another thing
i have been attending this acadamy for the past 5 weeks and every other week our P.E. lessons are canceled because there is not enough eachers to teach us

Georgem wrote:

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote: Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised. What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

how do you say that. we live in a democracy not dictatorship. we are the students of that school and i believe we should have a say in what is happening within OUR school.

Right. You should. A say. That doesn't mean going on a rampage whenever you're feeling a bit miffed. And I never said we lived in a democracy, did I?

Well, either Southampton has moved since i last looked out the window, or you're not in the same southampton as us, in which case i don't see how you can reasonably comment on the situation.

How so? Because of the whole "we live in a democracy" thing? Um. Would you like to buy some of these magic beans I've got? I can reasonably comment on the situation because, although we don't actually live in a free country per se, I am afforded a certain amount of freedom of speech. And I also went to school, and have been around human beings, and know that rioting in school is unlikely to have the desired effect. Simple really

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. So by your argument, because you went to school, you understand everything that goes on in schools enough to make a reasonable argument about a topic involving one? And has no-one ever told you that everyone is unique? I've spent time around human beings, yet i wouldn't say i know how everyone thinks. Besides, most of these people arent saying rioting would have the desired affect, but there's a difference between rioting and protesting.

Who was being sarcastic? So, tell me, what exactly has your little tantrum achieved? Got your own way yet? You're right, there is a difference between rioting and protesting. Protesting doesn't tend to involve smashing things up

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote: another thing i have been attending this acadamy for the past 5 weeks and every other week our P.E. lessons are canceled because there is not enough eachers to teach us

What are you doing about it? Serious question. Forget the incident reported in this story. PE - any lesson - being cancelled so often is unacceptable. So what are you and your fellow students doing about it?

Am i to take it you actually believe you have magic beans then?

And no, i was not involved in the "little tantrum". Nor do I think it was right, and to be honest, this riot started out as a protest which was hijacked by some of the more unruly students who wanted an excuse for wanton destruction and to skip a lesson. So no, not all the people protesting are having a "tantrum

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote: another thing i have been attending this acadamy for the past 5 weeks and every other week our P.E. lessons are canceled because there is not enough eachers to teach us

What are you doing about it? Serious question. Forget the incident reported in this story. PE - any lesson - being cancelled so often is unacceptable. So what are you and your fellow students doing about it?

I fail to see why it falls to the students to do something about it. Isn't that what the management are there for?

Georgem wrote:

Am i to take it you actually believe you have magic beans then? And no, i was not involved in the "little tantrum". Nor do I think it was right, and to be honest, this riot started out as a protest which was hijacked by some of the more unruly students who wanted an excuse for wanton destruction and to skip a lesson. So no, not all the people protesting are having a "tantrum

Well, I may as well say "yes" because you seem to believe everything you're told. Someone says we're in a democracy, therefore we ARE in a democracy! Magic beans! So what are you genuine protesters planning to do about the rioting bad apples? They're doing your cause damage, maybe some positive peer pressure's in order? You only have to look at how Muslims are regarded by the masses to see how the old "it's a minority spoiling it for the rest of us!" plea works

Georgem wrote:

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

john do wrote: another thing i have been attending this acadamy for the past 5 weeks and every other week our P.E. lessons are canceled because there is not enough eachers to teach us

What are you doing about it? Serious question. Forget the incident reported in this story. PE - any lesson - being cancelled so often is unacceptable. So what are you and your fellow students doing about it?

I fail to see why it falls to the students to do something about it. Isn't that what the management are there for?

But isn't the children's argument entirely centred around their demands to have a say? With that comes responsibility, you can't have it both ways. Either you think you have a say, and think you're entitled to involve yourself in school matters, in which case what happened is an unacceptable way to go about it. Or you DON'T think you have a say, and - like you claim - it's up to the management to sort it out, and this really WAS just a tantrum. Which is it?

Condor Man wrote:
what a sad indictment of this failing city. I like the comments made by parents,shows how much they don't care about their kids or the school. It shows what a society we have become. A few weeks ago parents were complaining about the cost of school uniform- I suppose because they wanted to spend the money on themselves instead. High quality education is wasted on these people (parents and kids). Not even animals would treat their environment so badly. We should return to grammar schools for the bright and dump the rest in pens where they can live like the feral brats they've been brought up to be. Southampton RIP

Georgem wrote:

Gilmore wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote:
Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised.
What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

Poor George, getting on a bit and realising that maybe he should have stood up for himself a bit more. Or have you always agreed with everything everyone's ever told you to do?

You might think teenagers are a lower form of life, sir, who deserve less rights, recognition and respect, however one day they'll be running things. If you don't listen to their side of the story now, who's to say they'll listen to your side of the story in twenty years when they're closing down your care home to cut costs?

Get with the program.

Been watching The Breakfast Club again, Gilmore?

I pity the fool who can only see in black and white. There's a huge amount of ground between being a meek yes-man and being a riotous moron

hmmc5r wrote:

john do wrote: students and staff have no say on what happens within the school only mrs. johnson who is so stuck up can change things and she is not doing anything

This rather splendid head teacher came from the Cantel school in the city. She was so highly regarded by her colleagues that they decided to throw her a leaving party and didn't send her an invite.

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

Am i to take it you actually believe you have magic beans then? And no, i was not involved in the "little tantrum". Nor do I think it was right, and to be honest, this riot started out as a protest which was hijacked by some of the more unruly students who wanted an excuse for wanton destruction and to skip a lesson. So no, not all the people protesting are having a "tantrum

Well, I may as well say "yes" because you seem to believe everything you're told. Someone says we're in a democracy, therefore we ARE in a democracy! Magic beans! So what are you genuine protesters planning to do about the rioting bad apples? They're doing your cause damage, maybe some positive peer pressure's in order? You only have to look at how Muslims are regarded by the masses to see how the old "it's a minority spoiling it for the rest of us!" plea works

How exactly do you define a democracy? And what do your petty quarrels with the government have to do with students at this school?

As for your peer pressure suggestion, generally if they've reached years 10 and 11 without being influenced to change, the probably aren't going to. better to kick them out of the school all together, which unfortunately I don't have the power to do.

Gilmore wrote:

Georgem wrote:

Gilmore wrote:

Georgem wrote:

naimbrain wrote:
Well done supergirl, while I'm writing that you should air your grievances, you for one are doing so. More of the same please kids, and perhaps the parents reading this discussion board could also start placing comments lobbying the council to respond to the issues raised.
What we need is dialog from both sides. This time it was only property that got damaged, if these problems are not redressed it could lead to a far more serious situation.

Why do we need dialog from both sides? This is the root of the problem, allowing children who are, by definition, not in a position to dictate how they should be treated, to rule the roost. Kids go on mad rampage, get punished. End of story. I don't want to hear their "dialog" or their "side of the story". This sort of behaviour is unacceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is, frankly, up a gum tree. Enough is enough. 14 year olds need to wake up and realise that, actually, no you DON'T know best

Poor George, getting on a bit and realising that maybe he should have stood up for himself a bit more. Or have you always agreed with everything everyone's ever told you to do?

You might think teenagers are a lower form of life, sir, who deserve less rights, recognition and respect, however one day they'll be running things. If you don't listen to their side of the story now, who's to say they'll listen to your side of the story in twenty years when they're closing down your care home to cut costs?

Get with the program.

Been watching The Breakfast Club again, Gilmore?

I pity the fool who can only see in black and white. There's a huge amount of ground between being a meek yes-man and being a riotous moron

lol very observant George, I was half-contemplating typing up that whole exchange between Karl and Mr Vernon (my favourite piece of dialogue in my favourite movie, wouldn't you know?). However, yes, I know there's quite a spectrum of stand-points between these two extremes. Apologies, I was caught up in the (to me) rather romantic prospect of students rising up and being noticed, and then using the power of the press to get their real points across which they have been doing.

History teaches us that when a group of people are being oppressed or ignored, it takes more than a few letters to get their point heard. Sometimes drastic actions are required. And although I don't condone violence, or vandalism, or destruction, desperate times call for desperate measures. In the aftermath, offenders are brought to justice, lives are sacrificed (or, in this case, excluded from school) but the desired effect has been accomplished. This is the most active thread of discussion on the local paper's website, pupils' voices are being heard, not just to be filed away by bureaucrats, but to be acknowledged by the city.

What's happened has happened, now is the time for debate, reflection and for changes to be implemented.

Portswood Pete wrote:
Ruth Johnsons half-baked ideas on discipline are mainly to blame.

jaysie wrote:
my son attended woolston school in year 7 in sept 2007 he would walk to school wich would take about 20 minutes and was doing well in lessons,since moving up to year 8 at the grove site his journey now takes between 30-40 minutes,he doesnt like the school but where is he supposed to go?what they should do is put all woolston pupils at woolston & all the new year sevens & grove pupils at the grove site.They should never have mixed the two schools as there was bound to be trouble. My son is not a chav & he does not come from a broken home he has two parents who are concerned about his education and his safety when he is at school. It seems the teachers have no control at either site.

Georgem wrote:

kfnnnp wrote:

Georgem wrote:

Am i to take it you actually believe you have magic beans then? And no, i was not involved in the "little tantrum". Nor do I think it was right, and to be honest, this riot started out as a protest which was hijacked by some of the more unruly students who wanted an excuse for wanton destruction and to skip a lesson. So no, not all the people protesting are having a "tantrum

Well, I may as well say "yes" because you seem to believe everything you're told. Someone says we're in a democracy, therefore we ARE in a democracy! Magic beans! So what are you genuine protesters planning to do about the rioting bad apples? They're doing your cause damage, maybe some positive peer pressure's in order? You only have to look at how Muslims are regarded by the masses to see how the old "it's a minority spoiling it for the rest of us!" plea works

How exactly do you define a democracy? And what do your petty quarrels with the government have to do with students at this school? As for your peer pressure suggestion, generally if they've reached years 10 and 11 without being influenced to change, the probably aren't going to. better to kick them out of the school all together, which unfortunately I don't have the power to do.

Petty quarrels? I see. What do they have to do with the students at your school? Quite a lot. Why you think your insular problems are the only thing that matter is, frankly, beyond me. Case dismissed.

john do wrote:
i am proodected to get a-a*s and i totlaly agree with them but they did not do thing correctly

saintblonde wrote:

john do wrote: i am proodected to get a-a*s and i totlaly agree with them but they did not do thing correctly

English not being one of them I presume? Sorry to be unkind but your spelling and grammer speak volumes about the standard of learning you poor kids are recieving. Two words for you.......spell check!

Year11 Student wrote:
Councillor Baille made the decision to give our schools to Oasis he is responsible for this mess.

Zoeeee93 wrote:
'Condor man' if you look at the results of Grove Park this year. They are pretty high. So it aint a falling school. Stop being so judge-mental about the schools. Were not commenting to slag Grove park or Woolston off. Its about Oasis.

been there before wrote:
"And anyone defending her here has" either never met her or is related. I have met Mrs Johnson but I am not related to her. Yet I am going to defend her! All of the comments I read on here tonight ultimately want the same thing. A good school! If anyone can help you with this it will be Mrs Johnson. It takes a strong leader to lead a school but it takes the whole team to make it a good school. As students, parents and staff I can understand your concerns and anguish over the two schools merging. But the fact is they have and no amount of protesting will change this now. So now is the time for you all to put your trust in what is definitely the best person for the job. Not all decisions made will appear to be the right ones but they will be in the best interest of the students, your children. Too many people listen to a small minority. There are comments on here that portrait Mrs Johnson as having a destructive past. If that means taking leadership of a school just as it was to be placed in special measures and turning it into what is now a thriving school then of this she is guilty. So now ask yourself this, do you want your children in a failing school or in one that could become one of the best schools in the city.

kfnnnp wrote:
Also, although it may seem like a permanant desicion, if enough people offer support to change it back, likely as not it will happen. So everyone telling us to just accept it are wrong. If we just accepted everything Hitler did in WW2, what sort of state would the world be in now?

kfnnnp wrote:
Also, although it may seem like a permanant desicion, if enough people offer support to change it back, likely as not it will happen. So everyone telling us to just accept it are wrong. If we just accepted everything Hitler did in WW2, what sort of state would the world be in now?

kfnnnp wrote:
Also, although it may seem like a permanant desicion, if enough people offer support to change it back, likely as not it will happen. So everyone telling us to just accept it are wrong. If we just accepted everything Hitler did in WW2, what sort of state would the world be in now?

Condor Man wrote:
Woolston was victim of it's location- the site was just too small to cope with the pupil numbers. It's sad that it had to merge with a failing school like Weston.

Vicky Fuller wrote:

kfnnnp wrote: Also, although it may seem like a permanant desicion, if enough people offer support to change it back, likely as not it will happen. So everyone telling us to just accept it are wrong. If we just accepted everything Hitler did in WW2, what sort of state would the world be in now?

This is not the case. It IS a permenant decision whether you want to accept it or not! Accept it! There is no more you can do. Whilst you cant bring back woolston or grove, you can work with staff, students and communtiy members to get Oasis working at the highest standards. This is not WW2 ! Mrs Johnson is NOT Hitler! She is our principal and she WILL be respected and so will her decisions. End of Story.

Zoeeee93 wrote:

kfnnnp wrote: Also, although it may seem like a permanant desicion, if enough people offer support to change it back, likely as not it will happen. So everyone telling us to just accept it are wrong. If we just accepted everything Hitler did in WW2, what sort of state would the world be in now?

I agree! We are allowed to say what we think, and after all we are the ones that have to go to this school. Especially the year 10 and 11s on the upper school site. We cant just get up and leave whenever we want, we are in the middle of our GCSE'S... you know the things that DEPENDS ON THE REST OF OUR LIFE? This is why we want changes, we had no choice to go to Oasis seeing as we are in our last years. Also, we did do a partician. Before the protest took place, at break time there was a partician passed around saying what we want to change, there were atleast 100 names signed. This was passed to a teacher and was totally ignored. And we even got told that everyone who signed this partician, could have the possibility of being excluded. But this didnt happen. When the protest was happening a teacher asked for 4 representatives. One of these has been permantly excluded. Even though he wasnt part of the riot (only the protest). How unfair is that? See this is really showing how this school is ruining our education. Being excluded for wanting to have our say? Yeah jsut brillaint?!

Vicky Fuller wrote:
I agree all power to free speech, especially as I attended Woolston School and I agree it was an amazing school. However, protest all you will, but this wont make a difference. If you read the Daily Echo back in March 2006, you would see me and a couple of friends trying to stop the closure of Woolston but we were not listened to then, why would we now? I also appeeared on ITV Meridian News. So therefore, we need to get on with our educational careers and gain the results we are expected to achieve, as Ex-Woolstoners making the memory of an amazing school live on through Oasis Academy Mayfield!

Vicky Fuller wrote:
I agree all power to free speech, especially as I attended Woolston School and I agree it was an amazing school. However, protest all you will, but this wont make a difference. If you read the Daily Echo back in March 2006, you would see me and a couple of friends trying to stop the closure of Woolston but we were not listened to then, why would we now? I also appeeared on ITV Meridian News. So therefore, we need to get on with our educational careers and gain the results we are expected to achieve, as Ex-Woolstoners making the memory of an amazing school live on through Oasis Academy Mayfield!

Vicky Fuller wrote:
Yes, people would support it but you need to get into your head... there will be NO change in schools. Woolston has CLOSED, Grove Park has CLOSED. Oasis Academy is OPEN ! Once dead, cant be brought back!

kfnnnp wrote:

Zoeeee93 wrote:

kfnnnp wrote: Also, although it may seem like a permanant desicion, if enough people offer support to change it back, likely as not it will happen. So everyone telling us to just accept it are wrong. If we just accepted everything Hitler did in WW2, what sort of state would the world be in now?

I agree! We are allowed to say what we think, and after all we are the ones that have to go to this school. Especially the year 10 and 11s on the upper school site. We cant just get up and leave whenever we want, we are in the middle of our GCSE'S... you know the things that DEPENDS ON THE REST OF OUR LIFE? This is why we want changes, we had no choice to go to Oasis seeing as we are in our last years. Also, we did do a partician. Before the protest took place, at break time there was a partician passed around saying what we want to change, there were atleast 100 names signed. This was passed to a teacher and was totally ignored. And we even got told that everyone who signed this partician, could have the possibility of being excluded. But this didnt happen. When the protest was happening a teacher asked for 4 representatives. One of these has been permantly excluded. Even though he wasnt part of the riot (only the protest). How unfair is that? See this is really showing how this school is ruining our education. Being excluded for wanting to have our say? Yeah jsut brillaint?!

I was actually thinking more of a community petition- get students in favour of it, students families in favour of it and locals in favour of it all to sign it and send it to newspapers and what have you. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would support it.

john do wrote:
vicky ur dead right people just have to except it

Vicky Fuller wrote:
Yes, people would support it but you need to get into your head... there will be NO change in schools. Woolston has CLOSED, Grove Park has CLOSED. Oasis Academy is OPEN ! Once dead, cant be brought back!

Zoeeee93 wrote:

kfnnnp wrote:

Zoeeee93 wrote:

kfnnnp wrote: Also, although it may seem like a permanant desicion, if enough people offer support to change it back, likely as not it will happen. So everyone telling us to just accept it are wrong. If we just accepted everything Hitler did in WW2, what sort of state would the world be in now?

I agree! We are allowed to say what we think, and after all we are the ones that have to go to this school. Especially the year 10 and 11s on the upper school site. We cant just get up and leave whenever we want, we are in the middle of our GCSE'S... you know the things that DEPENDS ON THE REST OF OUR LIFE? This is why we want changes, we had no choice to go to Oasis seeing as we are in our last years. Also, we did do a partician. Before the protest took place, at break time there was a partician passed around saying what we want to change, there were atleast 100 names signed. This was passed to a teacher and was totally ignored. And we even got told that everyone who signed this partician, could have the possibility of being excluded. But this didnt happen. When the protest was happening a teacher asked for 4 representatives. One of these has been permantly excluded. Even though he wasnt part of the riot (only the protest). How unfair is that? See this is really showing how this school is ruining our education. Being excluded for wanting to have our say? Yeah jsut brillaint?!

I was actually thinking more of a community petition- get students in favour of it, students families in favour of it and locals in favour of it all to sign it and send it to newspapers and what have you. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would support it.

Yeah fair point. But we just dont know what to do. I would love to write a petition but the students are getting excluded for having there say. If these changes dont take place soon, I will be willing to write a petition. The only thing stopping me, is the chance of beng excluded. Im in my last year, I am not willing to let my grades drop. Other people in the community could write a petition, but it would be best coming from a student or a member of staff. But can we risk it? (Sorry about my poor spelling! =] )

Vicky Fuller wrote:
'a glimmer or hope' you are putting all of your efforts into bringing 2 schools which have OFFICALLY closed back (which wont happen). Instead of putting your efforts into helping make the product of woolston and grove park a success for southampton children today and in the future !

Vicky Fuller wrote:
I ask you why you are so against Oasis Academy? Simple question, can I have a simple answer? Are you a parent,pupil, on looker or even staff member !?!!?!?

balanced view wrote:
The pupils are clearly saying that they are not being listened to. It comes to something if they feel that protests and an on-line comment is the only way to get a 'student voice'. If Oasis Mayfield really cared, they would have a SENCO (Special Educational Needs Coordinator) to ensure that the most vulnerable pupils were not just left to fend for themselves. My understanding is that there is no SENCO, which is a disgrace. Looked after and vulnerable children are the responsibility of Southampton City Council and they should be reading the riot act to Oasis over this no SENCO issue. Oasis is very adept at blaming everyone else - but there is no excuse for this! If Oasis show no concern for the least able or disadvantaged then they are not inclusive or Christian and certainly not worthy to be in charge of children. Oasis needs to show it is capable of admitting its mistakes and swiftly rectifying them before more of the previous staff feel the need to leave as the situation becomes more untenable. The best teachers will leave because they do not wish to be part of a incompetently run fiasco which is damaging pupils' life chances. It needs to be sorted out and fast ! Not a very balanced view, I know but I am really angry about the things I am hearing and reading tonight.

Vicky Fuller wrote:
The Review of Secondary Education was a decision made by Southampton City Council (Ann Milton). These two 'bucket' Woolston and Grove Park' are gone. And the 'Bigger Bucket' now here, so we need to accept. Its a nice idea of bringing back the 2 schools but it simply cant happen now. The change has been made, you need to move on.

Vicky Fuller wrote:
The Review of Secondary Education was a decision made by Southampton City Council (Ann Milton). These two 'bucket' Woolston and Grove Park' are gone. And the 'Bigger Bucket' now here, so we need to accept. Its a nice idea of bringing back the 2 schools but it simply cant happen now. The change has been made, you need to move on.

saintblonde wrote:
Ohhhhhh Vikkee got told biatch

Vicky Fuller wrote:
Manners and Grace. Personally I am fed up of people getting there knickers in a twist because they dont get there own way! Thats life! I am 15 years old and I have already learnt that. Us kids are the ones who have to put up with the changes, not you! And you continue to argue the point that 'we can fix the bucket' but we cant just go back. We have new students who have started at 'oasis' where do they go woolston or grove? we dont have enough teachers to split over 2 separate sites? Theres only 1 headteacher. Most of senior staff are former Woolston teacher. Therefore, yes Woolston would be fine going back to how it was, however grove park would completely collapse. Oasis Academy has come into being in Southampton, and it must be accepted. I will continue to defend the academy and its staff because I dont want all this stupid disruption of people still arguing about the closure of woolston and grove. Whats done is done. Deal with it. Besides, this riot wasnt about the 2 schools. Its about how Oasis is currently handling its affairs and about equality amongst pupils. So as for manner and grace, i could be writing alot 'chavier' as some of you would put it. However my parent brought me up with respect for my elders, so therefore respect for my teacher and principal, who I believe in the long run will do what is right by 'Oasis Academy Mayfield!' xxx

Vicky Fuller wrote:
Well you know, thats your opinion- but all i can say is... if you go in with a negative attitude you come out with one. And this may reflect your results. I do agree with the fact Oasis is terribly unorganised at the moment, but what organisation wouldnt be when it has combined two school together is a short period of time. Any hooo, im off to bed as I have school tomorrow (funnily enough). In a bit x

Denzil wrote:

Andy Locks Heath wrote:
Well said Northamboy. If Denzil's too thick to understand your use of hyperbole to emphasise your point it's no surprise that he's also too dumb to hide the fact when he responds.

Andy, your attempts at one upmanship are nothing short of pathetic. Please elaborate on where in Northamboy's post you think he is exaggerating, clearly he is not. Also, there is nothing worse than someone who goes round picking holes in people's spelling and grammar. Get a life you sad, desperate, lonely little man.

Vicky Fuller wrote:

saintblonde wrote: Ohhhhhh Vikkee got told biatch

I have no manners and Grace?!

NICK PAYNTER wrote:
AFTER SPEAKING TO MEMBERS OF STAFF AT WOOLSTON SCHOOL, IT SEEMS THAT THE STORY WRITTEN IN THE ECHO HAS BEEN EXAGERATED, I WAS TOLD ONLY THIS MORNING THAT NO STUDENTS HAD BITS OF WOOD, NO WINDOWS WERE SMASHED, IT WAS A FEW PAPER POSTERS TORN OFF OF WALLS, SUPPOSE IT WOULDN'T MAKE INTERESTING READING IF THE TRUTH WAS TOLD. DONT MAKE THESE STORIES UP, IT REFLECTS ON THE KIDS. USELESS OLD RAG THAT NOBODY READS.

Northamboy wrote:
The cane, slipper, ruler, stay behind after school, no more gadgets to keep them quiet, in bed by 8pm, not allowed out for a week at a time, speak only when spoken to, no pocket money. All of the above is within the power of the schools and parents if only the threat of being prosecuted could be lifted by the namby pamby Government. I was a child in the 50s and that is exactly what I was A CHILD! not a young person or an 'individual with rights' At the risk of sounding like my dad "it never did me any harm" Lets get the notion of these children just being small adults out of the way, they are not small adults they are children and should be taught right from wrong and how to behave in private and in public. I will not respond if do gooders say "oh you cant do that" so don't bother to post up. The decent people in our society know that this is the answer and have been crying out for it for the past fifteen years or more. How did we let the do gooders get away with it over the past few years? They have changed our kids into mini adults without them being taught the basics of being taught how to behave in a decent society. 99% of children are good kids but the 1% are starting to drag the rest down to their level and it needs stopping before we lose everything decent about our kids. Of course all of the above will not happen and it will continue its downward spiral. Shame but this is England in the 21st century and we are stuck with it unless someone in power wakes up and removes the threat of the law from those who could make a difference, the parents and the teachers. This has been a complete waste of time writing this but at least I have had my say.

Denzil wrote:

Northamboy wrote: The cane, slipper, ruler, stay behind after school, no more gadgets to keep them quiet, in bed by 8pm, not allowed out for a week at a time, speak only when spoken to, no pocket money. All of the above is within the power of the schools and parents if only the threat of being prosecuted could be lifted by the namby pamby Government. I was a child in the 50s and that is exactly what I was A CHILD! not a young person or an 'individual with rights' At the risk of sounding like my dad "it never did me any harm" Lets get the notion of these children just being small adults out of the way, they are not small adults they are children and should be taught right from wrong and how to behave in private and in public. I will not respond if do gooders say "oh you cant do that" so don't bother to post up. The decent people in our society know that this is the answer and have been crying out for it for the past fifteen years or more. How did we let the do gooders get away with it over the past few years? They have changed our kids into mini adults without them being taught the basics of being taught how to behave in a decent society. 99% of children are good kids but the 1% are starting to drag the rest down to their level and it needs stopping before we lose everything decent about our kids. Of course all of the above will not happen and it will continue its downward spiral. Shame but this is England in the 21st century and we are stuck with it unless someone in power wakes up and removes the threat of the law from those who could make a difference, the parents and the teachers. This has been a complete waste of time writing this but at least I have had my say.

Your first paragraph was possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen written on the internet. You are joking right? No wonder all you old people are so grumpy. Fair play the kids involved for making their points noticed. It also sounded like a right laugh.

paul b wrote:
I bet the trouble makers mothers are on benefits

woolstonstudents wrote:
mad max i do not agree with this comment about give them to be tested on what about those students that actually care about they're education and the school what happened to that saying treat people how you would like to be treated we are made to stand up for miss johnson when ever she walks in the room to show her respect but she cant give us respect by listening to our points and views about the school we all understand it will never be the same but the staff expect us to carry on like nothing has changed even though we have to re do peices of coursework as they have been lost HOW CAN WE CARRY ON LIKE NOTHING HAS CHANGED? it has been a massive change for staff and students. WE ARE NOT ALL TO BLAME FOR THE DISTRUCTION OF SCHOOL PROPERTY

MASONS2008 wrote:
by the way over 10 pupils hav been exulded ive have been 2 times now

Mr. Man wrote:
The real problem stemned from the council's ridiculous decision to ignore the massive support from the public, staff, students and all(bar one) of the headteachers accross the city, the colleges and the universities for the Southampton Education Trusts(SET) bid to run the new schools last year. This is what happens when you go against the massive popular vote. The SET even had cross party support from the working group set up to look at the bids...however, a few tory councillors decided to go against the overwhelmingly popular bid. Coucillors and Clive Webster(head of local authority)...this has happened on your watch!

kfnnnp wrote:

woolstonstudents wrote: mad max i do not agree with this comment about give them to be tested on what about those students that actually care about they're education and the school what happened to that saying treat people how you would like to be treated we are made to stand up for miss johnson when ever she walks in the room to show her respect but she cant give us respect by listening to our points and views about the school we all understand it will never be the same but the staff expect us to carry on like nothing has changed even though we have to re do peices of coursework as they have been lost HOW CAN WE CARRY ON LIKE NOTHING HAS CHANGED? it has been a massive change for staff and students. WE ARE NOT ALL TO BLAME FOR THE DISTRUCTION OF SCHOOL PROPERTY

thats another point i wish to make about the school. This silly rule of children standing up when the principal enters a room. It is a pointless disruption of peoples learning, and while you may argue that it shows respect, you're wrong, because if you have to force them to do it, it hardly shows respect.

john do wrote:
from 2:20pm till 3:15pm i spent time in a meeting with Steve Chalk and Mrs. Hibbs(deputy principal). In this meeting we discussed many of the problems with the new academy and if u would like me to tell them something. please inform me, and i will bring it to Steve Chalks attention. there was also a press conference happening during this meet and i believe that this broadcast will been shown in ITV local later this evening.

keith007 wrote:
My son attends oasis accadamy He came from Grove park. both schools are very disruptive ,children walking out of school when they fell like it even my own son. there are some pupils in thoses schools that think that they can do what they like.Grove Park and Woolston should have never been mixed as there has allways been problems in the past with fighting between both schools. Those pupils how were involved in that weeks rampage should never be allowed to attend the school again.as far as the knife incident that pupil should be dealt with by the police. Some of the teachers have to travel to the Grove park site Why there should be enough teachers to teach the pupils in each schools. and as regards to the head teacher Ruth Johnson I think she should be sacked on the spot for not dealing with the the real issues such as bulling, pupils not turning up for school and not informing the parents of those pupils,. She should be giving those teachers her full support and not saying that that there is not a problem at the school when there is. Those teachers are there to teach not to put up with pupils how behave like animals.

julie burns wrote:
I have joined the forum mentioned above, I have sent an appeal to the Academy Council about my son Jordan's exclusion and a copy to John Denham - I had a reply within 20 minutes!!! He is trying to arrange a meeting with parents and students, I was asked if I would attend - I will be there, it may be too late for my son but I will be supporting all the other students and parents that this has affected.....