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Poaching on the rise as food prices soar in shops

Poaching on the rise as food prices soar in shops Poaching on the rise as food prices soar in shops

IT was once the scourge of the aristocracy as they battled to keep the poor from stealing their prized game.

The threat of poachers meant that gamekeepers and farmers were forced to patrol their land in a bid to protect their livestock.

However, far from a scene from the history books, this is the reality for landowners under siege by poachers as the credit crunch continues to bite in rural Hampshire.

Police have been inundated with complaints from farmers who say that they are running scared as a result of the crimewave.

Some are sleeping with weapons by the door while others are risking their lives patrolling their land at night in a bid to stop the poachers.

Violence has nearly erupted between farmers and poachers several times and on one occasion led to a high-speed chase.

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A gamekeeper, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals, said that he chased poachers from a farm near Corhampton at speeds of up to 80mph.

The chase ended only when the poachers rammed his vehicle in a bid to escape.

Police are urging calm and have issued a warning for farmers not to take the law into their own hands.

An emergency meeting has been held between police and landowners in a bid to tackle the problem.

At the meeting, farmers said that poaching was the worst it has been in living memory. One gamekeeper said that it was the worst he had seen in 25 years.

Police confirmed a record number of incidents reported in mid-Hampshire in October 2008, being more than three times that for the same period last year.

Charlie Flindt, of Manor Farm in Hinton Ampner, said that poachers had targeted his farm several times.

He said: “I was born in that house across the yard, and for the first time in 47 years I’m keeping a baseball bat beside the back door.

“I’m having to do nightly sweeps of the fields. We are angry, and we are very scared, and someone is going to get hurt at this rate.”

He said that poachers were taking a wide range of animals, including deer, pheasants and partridges. He added that two Shetland ponies were taken in nearby Cheriton last month and some farmers had reported having dogs and chickens stolen.

Insp Jim Pegler confirmed that there have been 14 reports of suspected poaching since early October, compared with four in the same period last year.

He said that he was appealing to police bosses to extend a pilot scheme that has reduced poaching in north Hampshire.

He said: “I’ve handed my proposal to my bosses, and I would be surprised if it’s turned down, because it needs to happen with the rise that we’ve had.

“We acknowledge there is a problem, and we want to do something about it.”

Firearms Sgt Kevin Hercock said: “Please remember that all of your firearm certificates depend on your good character, and you don’t want to lose that, along with your livelihoods.”

Night-time patrols have been stepped up and officers are actively recording the car number plates of suspects seen in the area.

Mark Oaten, Liberal Democrat MP for Winchester, said: “Farmers are having it tough enough at the moment without the additional problem of having their goods stolen.

“This is clearly organised poaching and we need to nip it in the bud otherwise it will be a winter of misery for farmers and gamekeepers alike.”

Comments(23)

Dan Druff says...
10:40am Thu 13 Nov 08

It's probably a Esther Rantzen stalking the Hampshire countryside honing her outdoor survival skills for the new 'I'm a celebrity..' show.

jason bourne says...
11:46am Thu 13 Nov 08

He said that poachers were taking a wide range of animals, including deer, pheasants and partridges. He added that two Shetland ponies were taken in nearby Cheriton last month and some farmers had reported having dogs and chickens stolen.

who would want to eat a dog or shetland pony?
i had poached eggs this morning much nicer than dog

siminoc says...
11:54am Thu 13 Nov 08

Farmers should have the write to disable the transport or person’s found poaching on there land by what ever means they can and they may put off
If it was on my farm I would do it and hopefully stop it happening again


hulla baloo says...
11:57am Thu 13 Nov 08

siminoc wrote:
Farmers should have the write to disable the transport or person’s found poaching on there land by what ever means they can and they may put off If it was on my farm I would do it and hopefully stop it happening again
Is logical, but you cannot do that, and here lies the problem.

These days the criminals seem to have more rights than the law abiding.
You would probably get arrested for unlawful detention, and I wont start about their human rights.

southy says...
12:08pm Thu 13 Nov 08

the echo is on about poaching and rustling.domestic farm animals like cows,sheep,horses,ch
ickens,ect is rustling,where has deer, rabbits, pheasants, partridges, woodpidges ect are wild animals and are pests to the farmer,and was being hunted along time before there was any estate land owers.and has only been a problem after king willian I.
salmon and trout in tidal waters was joint the list of game in 1962 by the then tory government taking the people right away from them magna carter act.
in sweden there a law giving its people the right to hunt wild animals on weekends and all national holidays.
and why did the echo not ask the gamekeeper who gave him the right to speed along roads at 80mphs

hulla baloo says...
1:03pm Thu 13 Nov 08

southy wrote:
the echo is on about poaching and rustling.domestic farm animals like cows,sheep,horses,ch ickens,ect is rustling,where has deer, rabbits, pheasants, partridges, woodpidges ect are wild animals and are pests to the farmer,and was being hunted along time before there was any estate land owers.and has only been a problem after king willian I. salmon and trout in tidal waters was joint the list of game in 1962 by the then tory government taking the people right away from them magna carter act. in sweden there a law giving its people the right to hunt wild animals on weekends and all national holidays. and why did the echo not ask the gamekeeper who gave him the right to speed along roads at 80mphs
Under your defination, would the shooting of a chav/criminal come under poaching, rustling or elimination.?
(-:

southy says...
1:09pm Thu 13 Nov 08

exstinction hulla baloo

Condor Man says...
1:11pm Thu 13 Nov 08

When Tony Martin shot two robbers on his property he ended up in prison. It's a shame the law acts to protect the criminal- symptom of 11 years of Labour rule (when the previous PM's wife made a packet representing scumbags). In America a home owner has the right to kill trespassers!

southy says...
1:35pm Thu 13 Nov 08

siminoc wrote:
Farmers should have the write to disable the transport or person’s found poaching on there land by what ever means they can and they may put off
If it was on my farm I would do it and hopefully stop it happening again

rustlers yes, poachers no,its not the farmer job to worry about wild animals he has enough on his plate worrying about his farm animals and how to keep his head above water,if the big estate land owners what to claim that the wild animal belongs to them,then let them pay and worry about them and not leave it to the farmer to help out,poor devils are hard working all day on there farms

King Mush says...
3:33pm Thu 13 Nov 08

jason bourne:

"i had poached eggs this morning much nicer than dog"


Oh - so you're not Korean then?

King Mush says...
3:44pm Thu 13 Nov 08

I hardly think that modern day poachers can be compared with ye olde days.


Times were hard and most of these people did it to put food on the table.


These days we have benefit scrounging chavs,travellers and junkies at it for another source of income, driving through any forest in expensive 4x4s.

Let's hope a few more get some buckshot up their rear end.

Let the Army train their snipers in the area

Bright Spark says...
4:05pm Thu 13 Nov 08

King Mush wrote:
I hardly think that modern day poachers can be compared with ye olde days. Times were hard and most of these people did it to put food on the table. These days we have benefit scrounging chavs,travellers and junkies at it for another source of income, driving through any forest in expensive 4x4s. Let's hope a few more get some buckshot up their rear end. Let the Army train their snipers in the area
How is it King Mush can encourage army snipers, but my post about death at the hands of a firing squad was removed :(
I fear that the Echo are being 'Sparkist'.

Stubs says...
4:22pm Thu 13 Nov 08

He should not have gone over 70 mph. It does not set a good example to others.

jason bourne says...
4:30pm Thu 13 Nov 08

King Mush wrote:
jason bourne: "i had poached eggs this morning much nicer than dog" Oh - so you're not Korean then?
no way, i licked a dog once though, im poaching a salmon tonight, catch me if you can Farm Boy

southy says...
4:37pm Thu 13 Nov 08

King Mush, Woolston says...
I hardly think that modern day poachers can be compared with ye olde days.
theres no diffrence between poachers of old and poachers of today,they both do it for food on the table or to exchange or to sale catch.to help them to live,

Paul TS says...
4:37pm Thu 13 Nov 08

Stubs wrote:
He should not have gone over 70 mph. It does not set a good example to others.
If this was on the farmers own land and not a public road he would not be breaking the law! Range Rovers can do these speeds on fields!

Stubs says...
4:38pm Thu 13 Nov 08

I dont like poached eggs. Not at 80 mph anyway.

King Mush says...
5:04pm Thu 13 Nov 08

Southy:

"theres no diffrence between poachers of old and poachers of today,they both do it for food on the table or to exchange or to sale catch.to help them to live"

The last five words just sum it up.

Dont you really mean to buy more fags, booze,fast food,drugs,giant plasma screen TVs etc?

All to be enjoyed whilst living rent free with bills paid by the tax-paying suckers of this world?

Wakey wakey dear boy

King Mush says...
5:08pm Thu 13 Nov 08

PS

Dont forget that many of these sub-human poachers use snares and all kinds of vicious traps that can see animals trapped for days in agony.

Crossbows are another favourite 'silent' method to avoid tell-tale shots ringing out.

Not forgetting the 'thrill' of the chase to offer more kicks in their sad lives.



southy says...
5:43pm Thu 13 Nov 08

King Mush wrote:
PS

Dont forget that many of these sub-human poachers use snares and all kinds of vicious traps that can see animals trapped for days in agony.

Crossbows are another favourite 'silent' method to avoid tell-tale shots ringing out.

Not forgetting the 'thrill' of the chase to offer more kicks in their sad lives.


not poachers that use to do that,your game keepers use to leave snares down and leave them,poachers will put down a snare and only set it to what ever the animal there are after,and keep checking on them and pulling them up when they go then.but game keepers on the other hand will set a snare down and not care,because what they are trying to kill is animals like foxes,badgers,stouts
,wessels,otters,mink
s, polecats,ferrets,pin
e martin and another thing that game keepers do is shot or poison any bird of prey.
a crossbow if a good hunting tool if the person knows how to use it right, same has any gun if you dont know where to shot the animal to get a clean kill then dont use it.
so wakey wakey dear km
i like the security word for this one fact-save

B. L. says...
6:34pm Thu 13 Nov 08

Condor Man wrote:
When Tony Martin shot two robbers on his property he ended up in prison. It's a shame the law acts to protect the criminal- symptom of 11 years of Labour rule (when the previous PM's wife made a packet representing scumbags). In America a home owner has the right to kill trespassers!
Oh dear Condor Man, unfortunately not true. In the USA, a home owner does NOT have the right to kill trespassers, you'd better have a real eloquent attorney if you do. Even as a Police Officer, you can not just shoot someone, UNLESS you feel that your life or someone else's life is immediately threatened, and that's called self defense. As I said, make sure you have a good attorney. Pity, although I thoroughly agree with you on where you stand, but some would call it vigilante. We do live in a sick world these days and until the judiciary system in UK gets it's head from out of it's a** it will remain unchanged. I know, my detention is to stay after school and write 100 times " I must not criticize the PC brigade".

Bright Spark says...
7:39pm Thu 13 Nov 08

How do you poach a salmon? Gas mark 5 for 30 minutes???

King Mush says...
12:01pm Fri 14 Nov 08

Southy makes some reasonably well thought out observations above.

However - I doubt if there are that many 'clean' kills by whatever means.

If anyone is THAT good with a say a rifle, then they should be out in Afghanistan or Iraq and slotting a few Taliban or Al Qayeda nutters.


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