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Police give details of officers’crimes

11:55am Tuesday 18th November 2008

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SIX Hampshire police officers and four civilian staff have kept their jobs after receiving criminal convictions, it has emerged.

They are among dozens of officers were found to have committed a number of offences including violent attacks, possessing a cannabis plant and discharging a firearm, as revealed by the Daily Echo yesterday.

Police chiefs said that there are currently 31 officers with a criminal record covering a total of 43 offences. Of this total 21 had previous convictions for crimes including benefit fraud, possession of an offensive weapon and theft before they were given a job on the force.

Deputy Chief Constable Simon Cole said: “All members of Hampshire Constabulary must demonstrate the highest professional standards as expected by the public of Hampshire and the Isle of Wight.”

A police spokesman added: “It is exceptionally rare for anyone in the police service to keep their job if convicted of a criminal offence.

“The vast majority of these offences were committed as young people and date back more than 30 years to 1974.

“Police recruits are not barred from appointment to the police service solely on the basis of a previous conviction, and the Home Office provides national guidance in this regard.

“All those with convictions are both eligible and suitable for their roles in the police force.”

The Daily Echo’s revelations led Eastleigh MP Chris Huhne to question whether police officers with convictions could be relied on in court to give evidence.

Geoff Crowe, chairman of the Hampshire Police Federation, said: “It would be a real shame if they were barred from joining the police force for life because of something they did when they were younger.”

He added that other forces may have a more draconian view of taking on police officers with convictions with some having a blanket ban.

Paul West, from the Association of Chief Police Officers, confirmed that an officer guilty of misconduct could be punished with reprimand, fines, a reduction in rank or even dismissal.


THE six serving officers received convictions for the following offences since they have joined the force:
April 1997 – Disclosing data
May 1998 – Excess alcohol (off duty)
February 2001 – Common assault (off duty)
Feb 2003 – Excess alcohol (off duty)
April 2006 – Drunk and disorderly (off duty)
Feb 2007 – Common assault

The four serving police staff received convictions for the following offences:
Nov 2006 – Excess alcohol
March 2007 – Common assault
August 2007 – Criminal damage/ public disorder (one incident)
June 2008 – Excess alcohol


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Sly Stallone, New York says...
12:59pm Tue 18 Nov 08

This is a shock to me. The NYPD would never employ a police person who had a drink problem.

Denzil, Chilworth says...
1:00pm Tue 18 Nov 08

Absolutely disgusting. No wonder most are crap at their jobs, they are made up of benefit thieves and the like. Sickening.

Adrian Smith, Planet Earth says...
1:57pm Tue 18 Nov 08

"The vast majority of these offences were committed as young people and date back more than 30 years to 1974"

The majority of cold cases were committed by younger people and date back more than 30 years? Don't they matter either?

What a stupid thing to say.

Lymington Lad, Lymington says...
2:42pm Tue 18 Nov 08

Why are the police not naming the guilty? The police and Echo seem to be quick to name other people even if the case has yet to be heard.

Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
3:51pm Tue 18 Nov 08

Try to tell an old age pensioner or any other vulnerable person that officer upon whom their safety depends and they should trust is former criminal; and see what kind of reaction you get. Words 'criminals and crooks in uniform' will not be surprising.

On the other hand standards in society have gone down. If we are willing to accept former dope smokers as Home Secretary and cabinet ministers then what right have we got to expect anything different in policing?

I feel sorry for many decent officers whose dedication to work won't be appreciated because of bad apples created by do gooders in positions of power.



Andy Locks Heath, says...
8:32pm Tue 18 Nov 08

Did anyone see the point Rod Liddle made in last week's ST? "Sir" Ian Blair 9britain's "top" policeman) who is suspended but still on full pay by the way will retire with a golden handshake of several hundred thousand pounds to make up for his early departure, and his index linked pension worth well over £1m will be payable in full as though he had worked until his real retirement. And yet he is currently accused by the Met's senior Asian officer of Racism!! Which of us if we had been accused of racism at work would get any of this kid gloves treatment? If he is found guilty he should be dismissed with nothing, yet he just like other senior public sector figures are never "sacked" they are just quietly given gardening leave until age 65 so that us poor taxpayers can assume they've been punished for their failings. Fat chance.
These are our taxes he's being paid with.

Denzil, Chilworth says...
8:49pm Tue 18 Nov 08

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Try to tell an old age pensioner or any other vulnerable person that officer upon whom their safety depends and they should trust is former criminal; and see what kind of reaction you get. Words 'criminals and crooks in uniform' will not be surprising. On the other hand standards in society have gone down. If we are willing to accept former dope smokers as Home Secretary and cabinet ministers then what right have we got to expect anything different in policing? I feel sorry for many decent officers whose dedication to work won't be appreciated because of bad apples created by do gooders in positions of power.
How did I know you would comment trying to defend these criminals, you make me sick.

Condor Man, Southampton says...
9:35pm Tue 18 Nov 08

Denzil wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote: Try to tell an old age pensioner or any other vulnerable person that officer upon whom their safety depends and they should trust is former criminal; and see what kind of reaction you get. Words 'criminals and crooks in uniform' will not be surprising. On the other hand standards in society have gone down. If we are willing to accept former dope smokers as Home Secretary and cabinet ministers then what right have we got to expect anything different in policing? I feel sorry for many decent officers whose dedication to work won't be appreciated because of bad apples created by do gooders in positions of power.
How did I know you would comment trying to defend these criminals, you make me sick.
I would have thought lefties would be the first to say that anyone deserves a second chance? Clearly they still see the police as an occupation attracting right-wingers (like the military) and have negative view towards it- until they need it of course.

King Mush, Woolston says...
10:46pm Tue 18 Nov 08

Sly Stallone wrote:
This is a shock to me. The NYPD would never employ a police person who had a drink problem.
lol

No- but the USA employs a 'reformed' alcoholic inarticulate bumbling redneck to run the whole country

Finlay, Des Moines Iowa says...
12:16am Wed 19 Nov 08

“All those with convictions are both eligible and suitable for their roles in the police force.”

Why am I not surprised at this report. With these delightful attributes does it make them more able to deal with those incidents where they had once trod - Well no actually. So what is a policeman? Someone who upholds the law and is a standard by which to be measured - You decide

Crime is rife in Soton and it is because the policing is cr@p


Vonnie, Southampton says...
3:29am Wed 19 Nov 08

Denzil wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote: Try to tell an old age pensioner or any other vulnerable person that officer upon whom their safety depends and they should trust is former criminal; and see what kind of reaction you get. Words 'criminals and crooks in uniform' will not be surprising. On the other hand standards in society have gone down. If we are willing to accept former dope smokers as Home Secretary and cabinet ministers then what right have we got to expect anything different in policing? I feel sorry for many decent officers whose dedication to work won't be appreciated because of bad apples created by do gooders in positions of power.
How did I know you would comment trying to defend these criminals, you make me sick.
From what I am reading, Paramjit was not defending anyone. Rather the reverse. The point that comes over to me is that we as a society have been prepared to elect and keep in power MPs who are self confessed criminals, and that this rule of thumb is seeping throughout the whole of society including the police.

Paramjit Bahia, Southampton says...
9:19am Wed 19 Nov 08

Vonnie wrote:
Denzil wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote: Try to tell an old age pensioner or any other vulnerable person that officer upon whom their safety depends and they should trust is former criminal; and see what kind of reaction you get. Words 'criminals and crooks in uniform' will not be surprising. On the other hand standards in society have gone down. If we are willing to accept former dope smokers as Home Secretary and cabinet ministers then what right have we got to expect anything different in policing? I feel sorry for many decent officers whose dedication to work won't be appreciated because of bad apples created by do gooders in positions of power.
How did I know you would comment trying to defend these criminals, you make me sick.
From what I am reading, Paramjit was not defending anyone. Rather the reverse. The point that comes over to me is that we as a society have been prepared to elect and keep in power MPs who are self confessed criminals, and that this rule of thumb is seeping throughout the whole of society including the police.
Thanks Vonnie, that was exactly what I meant.

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