ID card protest (From Daily Echo)
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ID card protest
4:10am Friday 13th February 2009 in
A NEW pressure group is launching in Winchester to fight plans for compulsory identity cards.
The local NO2ID group will kick off its campaign by collecting signatures in the High Street on Saturday, February 21 from 10am.
The new coordinator is Julian Wald, who said: “We want to take a stand against our increasing loss of privacy.
I’m confident that we will get a lot of support.
“The more time goes on, the clearer it becomes that ID cards – and the huge database that goes with them – are going to be a colossal waste of money.
“The hassle and bureaucracy that the first users are going through are also really shocking. It’s clear that ID cards and the associated database will do absolutely nothing to make us any safer – indeed they will make things worse.”
Mr Wald can be contacted on 01962 658501.
Comments(13)
McSholing
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6:39am Fri 13 Feb 09
10 Minute Man
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7:28am Fri 13 Feb 09
And the cost - buy your own shackles for around £100 even if you have a passport and drivers licence already.
The debate about whether we will be given them is OVER - the legislation is all in place, for the cards as well as changes to remove existing protections (e.g. the full reversal of the data protection act as regards gov departments). What does remain is the question as to whether we are going to ACCEPT them.
And no they aren't voluntary if you want to participate in every day life in any way.
Peter Porcupine
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7:33am Fri 13 Feb 09
Contrary to popular belief the EU IDENTITY CARD'S principal purpose is NOT to tell the "authorities" about us. Clearly we already possess many documents to do that.
THE PRINCIPAL PURPOSE OF THE EU IDENTITY CARD IS TO REMIND US WHO WE ARE: EU CITIZENS! It will do this by obliging us to cary the card which will display the EU "ring of stars". This is a subtle species of brainwashing.
Until the EU can develop Europol (its own equivalent of East Germany's dreaded "Stazi")or its own army, the only means of thought control it has is the circle of stars. You will observe that the more tension that arises within the EU, the greater the urgency becomes to impose the EU IDENTITY CARD.
It is good to see more opposition to the EU Identity Card. UKIP and the Liberal Democrats already oppose it (although the Liberal Democrats will eventually have to choose between their romantic vision of European union and the harsh reality of the EU IDENTITY CARD).
The Tories SUPPORTED Labour's plan for the EU Identity Card shortly before the 2005 General Election because they knew that if elected, they would have to introduce the EU IDENTITY CARD anyway under the existing terms of the various treasonous EU treaties they ratified.
If they had opposed the EU IDENTITY CARD, they would have been forced to make a highly embarrassing u-turn.
Tory leaders' hypocrisy over the EU IDENTITY CARD matches their hypocrisy over they EU itself. Their position is still to remain in the EU.
If ever the anti-Conservative Tories do form a government, they WILL introduce the EU IDENTITY CARD just as they obediently implemented EVERY other piece of EU legislation when they were in office.
10 Minute Man
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8:42am Fri 13 Feb 09
we'reboned
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10:17am Fri 13 Feb 09
When such a small percentage actually vote, we have no chance to challenge anything that is forced upon us. Big corporations bought this country and its MP's a long time ago.
Finlay
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10:29am Fri 13 Feb 09
You show a letter/bill, passport and visa and that ID lasts as long as your visa. Everyone asks for ID and no ID and no service. Each state has their own specific IDs and it can be seen in minutes if I am here legally.
There are fakes and good ones too but a quick call will confirm if they are real or duff.
Good idea? Yes they are but they are not as expensive as what the British are proposing but then just about everything is cheaper here.
In the inimitable British style the people are paying for the governments actions.
There is no way on Earth that they can justify $100/card.
Miles Sway
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11:08am Fri 13 Feb 09
Driver's licenses and passports already carry the EU stars, have done for years, so I can't agree the brainwashing" comment, nor a goal of a EU "Stasi" police force - EU force maybe, Stasi no.
There is plenty of thought control already, censorship, denial of freedom of speech (current story on Dutch minister) but these already exist in the UK; introducing an ID card won't change what's already in place.
Having said that, it's hard to see what benefit will come from an ID - most already carry it in some form, it certainly won't stop illegals or terrorists,
I'm in Canada and carry ID always, not a problem, but before it happens in the UK it needs to be properly justified by HMG and maybe a more open debate as to where the EU is going?
Rob444
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11:24am Fri 13 Feb 09
I read, when the law was going through parliament, that people who fail to attend their interview will be fined £1,000. Same fine for each subsequent offence. Thatcher tried something similar with people who refused to pay her infamous poll tax, and we know how that ended.
This government is imposing all sorts of laws on us without us asking for them. As for data, we all know their record on keeping personal data safe! Now it seems that pharmacy staff will have access to our personal medical data. It is not unreasonable to assume that the U.S. government would be among the agencies to have access to our details.
Finlay
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11:53am Fri 13 Feb 09
Is an E111 effective up there for European medical services?
Miles Sway
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12:33pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Finlay wrote:Hi Finlay
Miles Sway in Canada
Is an E111 effective up there for European medical services?
No it isn't - you need to have insurance or always carry a Canadian health card (or pay as you go!)
Odd situation here, all GP, hospital, operations etc are covered by the govt but you pay all prescription costs, ambulance, dental etc yourself (or if sensible have insurance)
Not quite as tough as the US system thankfully.
Finlay
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12:52pm Fri 13 Feb 09
It is a fraction of the cost in Iowa than California and actually pays to fly up here for treatment. Louisianna is even cheaper.
Medical insurance at my age is around $2000/mo. Still I have paid NI all my life in Britain so I'll go back if I need expensive work doing.
Miles Sway
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1:51pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Finlay wrote:Seriously, try Singapore, healthcare at a fraction of the costs with first class service and surgeons.
Thx - I had a tooth pulled yesterday and although it was the nicest tooth pull I have ever had it cost $157 - Had an incident last year and required an overnite stay in hospital and that cost $3,700 the cost of a first class seat to LAX - It would be much cheaper to die.
It is a fraction of the cost in Iowa than California and actually pays to fly up here for treatment. Louisianna is even cheaper.
Medical insurance at my age is around $2000/mo. Still I have paid NI all my life in Britain so I'll go back if I need expensive work doing.
B. L.
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6:25pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Finlay wrote:I'd check first about going back to UK even if you've paid NI all your life, same boat, but my family tell me that to get National Health treatment you need to have been resident for three months. Not sure how true that is, but better check. Understandable because of the abuse the NH has suffered over the years.
Thx - I had a tooth pulled yesterday and although it was the nicest tooth pull I have ever had it cost $157 - Had an incident last year and required an overnite stay in hospital and that cost $3,700 the cost of a first class seat to LAX - It would be much cheaper to die.
It is a fraction of the cost in Iowa than California and actually pays to fly up here for treatment. Louisianna is even cheaper.
Medical insurance at my age is around $2000/mo. Still I have paid NI all my life in Britain so I'll go back if I need expensive work doing.
Back to the story, what a concept!!!
My driver's license is my ID and it doesn't bother me at all about "big brother", in fact, in my last job it was a godsend. If anyone is worried about their personal information being held in a database, just stop and consider, personal details held already by:-
Banks, mortgage companies, doctors, hospitals, councils, Inland Revenue, National Insurance and Uncle Tom Cobley and all etc. So what's the big deal and it doesn't have anything to do with the usual "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" brigade. It's fact of life, get used to it.
RIP "GREAT" Britain.
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