Le Tissier explains Pinnacle's withdrawal (From Daily Echo)

La Manga wrote:
So Pinnacle's backers weren't happy with something they didn't realise they had signed? That's not very good is it.

Bashfan wrote:
Matty, you're doing the club no favours by continuing the cloak and dagger stuff. The "other issues" are either extra points to be deducted or (I hope) the FL not being convinced of the financial validity of the bid.

jono1974 wrote:
A message to the football league,i hope you all get swine flu.

Mac78 wrote:

jono1974 wrote:
A message to the football league,i hope you all get swine flu.

seconded

H0ckeyd wrote:

Mac78 wrote:

jono1974 wrote: A message to the football league,i hope you all get swine flu.

seconded

third that one...scum

Mac78 wrote:
Don't listen to anyone who criticises you for all this Matty, we all know that as a true Saints fan you did everything within your power to stand up, be counted and try and save our club. Thank you.

H0ckeyd wrote:
(I meant as in the football league were run-of-the-mill scum...I'm not a pompey fan...sorry wrong choice of words)

Pedant wrote:
I know there are those on here who don`t think the FL rules should apply to Saints but just consider this. Just suppose the mystery money men behind Michael Falkia didn`t realise they would HAVE to reveal themselves to the League and spent yesterday trying to get the League to waive the rules about "fit and proper persons" and needing to have their identities revealed. Now that would put a different slant on it wouldn`t it. Maybe not to those who think the FL has it in for Saints.

SaintPaul wrote:
If Mawhinney and his Football League pals continue to obstruct any serious buyer then there will be no SFC, as I see it the FL will not allow any new bidder to contest the 10 point deduction and also want the option to impose further penalty points if they see fit. If I was a buyer I could accept the -10 points, saints would have a fighting chance, but should there be the prospect of further deductions that could easily lead to the club's demise then why would I want to invest in a business venture that had already faile before it got off the starting blocks? You've only got to look at what happened to the likes of Leeds and Luton, this is a stark warning to any prospective buyers and unitl the FL start to consider what is fair and reasonable SFC will not be sold and that we be the end of it. So let's not balme Pinnacle, MLT, Fialka or Fry, it's the FL that need to be held accountable here, the reason MLT will not discuss these issues is because is likely to put off other buyers and he doesn't want that.

saintjak wrote:
I have been on the golf course all afternoon... classic. Pinnacle really are a bunch of helmets and poor old Matty got sucked in. Still love the boy though. Stick to SSN and your golf Matt. Leave the ruining of a decent football club to all the other plebs. You've done more than enough over the last 20 years

Pedant wrote:
I know there are those on here who don`t think the FL rules should apply to Saints but just consider this. Just suppose the mystery money men behind Michael Falkia didn`t realise they would HAVE to reveal themselves to the League and spent yesterday trying to get the League to waive the rules about "fit and proper persons" and needing to have their identities revealed. Now that would put a different slant on it wouldn`t it. Maybe not to those who think the FL has it in for Saints.

supersaints wrote:
matt can hold his head high he tryed when alot were not even turning up to games thanks matt your only human

Mac78 wrote:

supersaints wrote: matt can hold his head high he tryed when alot were not even turning up to games thanks matt your only human

Incorrect, for it has been foretold that told he is in fact.... LE-GOD

Mac78 wrote:

Pedant wrote: I know there are those on here who don`t think the FL rules should apply to Saints but just consider this. Just suppose the mystery money men behind Michael Falkia didn`t realise they would HAVE to reveal themselves to the League and spent yesterday trying to get the League to waive the rules about "fit and proper persons" and needing to have their identities revealed. Now that would put a different slant on it wouldn`t it. Maybe not to those who think the FL has it in for Saints.

This is pure specualtion tho isn't it? Hey, you could write for the Echo ;-)

Pedant wrote:

Mac78 wrote:

Pedant wrote: I know there are those on here who don`t think the FL rules should apply to Saints but just consider this. Just suppose the mystery money men behind Michael Falkia didn`t realise they would HAVE to reveal themselves to the League and spent yesterday trying to get the League to waive the rules about "fit and proper persons" and needing to have their identities revealed. Now that would put a different slant on it wouldn`t it. Maybe not to those who think the FL has it in for Saints.

This is pure specualtion tho isn't it? Hey, you could write for the Echo ;-)

Yes, pure speculation, but then so is the speculation about further points deductions. We don`t know what the hours of discussion at the FL were about, especially as PG had apparently conceded the -10 points.

saintscleric wrote:
is there a city as big as Southampton without a top Football club?...:(

SaintPaul wrote:
The FL want the right to impose further deductions, that is what they and Pinnacle have been in negotiations about for the past week. The deal that Pinnacle proposed was that they would concede the 10 point deduction on the condition the FL agreed not to impose any further penalties, and guess waht the FL would not agree, it's OK for them to hold Pinnacle to ransom but not the other way round!

SaintPaul wrote:
The FL want the right to impose further deductions, that is what they and Pinnacle have been in negotiations about for the past week. The deal that Pinnacle proposed was that they would concede the 10 point deduction on the condition the FL agreed not to impose any further penalties, and guess waht the FL would not agree, it's OK for them to hold Pinnacle to ransom but not the other way round!

townhill saint69 wrote:
any one no when the new kit is out ???????????????? hope its soon very f@ckin@ soon

Sussex Saint wrote:
First message on these forums, but after months of watching, waiting, listening and preying, reading the news that all seems lost - but what spurred me on to write today is that I have just come into contact with some people from Begbies Traynor that have told me that the club has enough cash to last until September (just), this not generated by the sale of McGoldrick. If true - fantastic, because that obviously makes us a more viable purchase offer. If not, sorry Saints, it's been nice knowing you.

Alvin82 wrote:
As a fan I am equally frustrated, but I certainly don't think the way forward is to throw abuse at anybody. I think there has been some incidents where people, who are clearly frustrated and upset, have taken it out on the wrong people if you ask. "Those people need to take stock of things, think about the bigger picture and hopefully Mark Fry can find somebody who is willing to come forward and save our club." The quote above from Le Tiss hasn't been picked up on here - no surprise as it seems many of you are blinkered. This is the first time I have contributed in ages on this site but have watched everything with interest and all the comments on this site. Le Tiss IMHO is having a dig at all of you on here who were having a go at Mark Fry, and having a go at Fialka. Clearly the FL are at some great degree at fault here, but there have been so many accusations on here that it is unsurprising that Pinnacle have bailed. I suspect the 'who is Fialka?' story by the Echo didn't help either. If i was Fialka and I had all that cash - and let us assume that Fry had done his bit and was happy with this - then i would rightly be aggrieved with so called supporters who didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. Guys, think before you speak and as Le Tiss says 'look at the bigger picture'. You contributors, (albeit not all but you know who you are)haven't done yourself and the club we all love any favours. Just hope the swiss group come in before it's too late. COYR!!

hampshirehawk wrote:

Sussex Saint wrote: First message on these forums, but after months of watching, waiting, listening and preying, reading the news that all seems lost - but what spurred me on to write today is that I have just come into contact with some people from Begbies Traynor that have told me that the club has enough cash to last until September (just), this not generated by the sale of McGoldrick. If true - fantastic, because that obviously makes us a more viable purchase offer. If not, sorry Saints, it's been nice knowing you.

If this is true why haven't they paid the staff's June wages?

supersaints wrote:

Alvin82 wrote: As a fan I am equally frustrated, but I certainly don't think the way forward is to throw abuse at anybody. I think there has been some incidents where people, who are clearly frustrated and upset, have taken it out on the wrong people if you ask. "Those people need to take stock of things, think about the bigger picture and hopefully Mark Fry can find somebody who is willing to come forward and save our club." The quote above from Le Tiss hasn't been picked up on here - no surprise as it seems many of you are blinkered. This is the first time I have contributed in ages on this site but have watched everything with interest and all the comments on this site. Le Tiss IMHO is having a dig at all of you on here who were having a go at Mark Fry, and having a go at Fialka. Clearly the FL are at some great degree at fault here, but there have been so many accusations on here that it is unsurprising that Pinnacle have bailed. I suspect the 'who is Fialka?' story by the Echo didn't help either. If i was Fialka and I had all that cash - and let us assume that Fry had done his bit and was happy with this - then i would rightly be aggrieved with so called supporters who didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. Guys, think before you speak and as Le Tiss says 'look at the bigger picture'. You contributors, (albeit not all but you know who you are)haven't done yourself and the club we all love any favours. Just hope the swiss group come in before it's too late. COYR!!

i have to agree those comments from some saints fans had to have an affect

andysaint wrote:

supersaints wrote:

Alvin82 wrote: As a fan I am equally frustrated, but I certainly don't think the way forward is to throw abuse at anybody. I think there has been some incidents where people, who are clearly frustrated and upset, have taken it out on the wrong people if you ask. "Those people need to take stock of things, think about the bigger picture and hopefully Mark Fry can find somebody who is willing to come forward and save our club." The quote above from Le Tiss hasn't been picked up on here - no surprise as it seems many of you are blinkered. This is the first time I have contributed in ages on this site but have watched everything with interest and all the comments on this site. Le Tiss IMHO is having a dig at all of you on here who were having a go at Mark Fry, and having a go at Fialka. Clearly the FL are at some great degree at fault here, but there have been so many accusations on here that it is unsurprising that Pinnacle have bailed. I suspect the 'who is Fialka?' story by the Echo didn't help either. If i was Fialka and I had all that cash - and let us assume that Fry had done his bit and was happy with this - then i would rightly be aggrieved with so called supporters who didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. Guys, think before you speak and as Le Tiss says 'look at the bigger picture'. You contributors, (albeit not all but you know who you are)haven't done yourself and the club we all love any favours. Just hope the swiss group come in before it's too late. COYR!!

i have to agree those comments from some saints fans had to have an affect

Do you honestly believe that LeTiss, Lynham, Fialka ect have spent the last 6 weeks trawling the echo websites to see what people think of them? These are serious businessmen looking to save our football club - the comments posted on here dont mean diddly squat to them. PG have withdrawn because of the unresonable behaviour of the FL and any other potential purchasers wont come forward for the same reason. The FL is killing us as they did Luton and tried to do to Bournemouth. They dont give a toss coz we aint big box office. I firmly believe all at PG did all they could but the FL would not budge and were insisting on further points deductions. MLT - always a legend. Just hope RL doesnt come back!!!

andysaint wrote:

supersaints wrote:

Alvin82 wrote: As a fan I am equally frustrated, but I certainly don't think the way forward is to throw abuse at anybody. I think there has been some incidents where people, who are clearly frustrated and upset, have taken it out on the wrong people if you ask. "Those people need to take stock of things, think about the bigger picture and hopefully Mark Fry can find somebody who is willing to come forward and save our club." The quote above from Le Tiss hasn't been picked up on here - no surprise as it seems many of you are blinkered. This is the first time I have contributed in ages on this site but have watched everything with interest and all the comments on this site. Le Tiss IMHO is having a dig at all of you on here who were having a go at Mark Fry, and having a go at Fialka. Clearly the FL are at some great degree at fault here, but there have been so many accusations on here that it is unsurprising that Pinnacle have bailed. I suspect the 'who is Fialka?' story by the Echo didn't help either. If i was Fialka and I had all that cash - and let us assume that Fry had done his bit and was happy with this - then i would rightly be aggrieved with so called supporters who didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. Guys, think before you speak and as Le Tiss says 'look at the bigger picture'. You contributors, (albeit not all but you know who you are)haven't done yourself and the club we all love any favours. Just hope the swiss group come in before it's too late. COYR!!

i have to agree those comments from some saints fans had to have an affect

Do you honestly believe that LeTiss, Lynham, Fialka ect have spent the last 6 weeks trawling the echo websites to see what people think of them? These are serious businessmen looking to save our football club - the comments posted on here dont mean diddly squat to them. PG have withdrawn because of the unresonable behaviour of the FL and any other potential purchasers wont come forward for the same reason. The FL is killing us as they did Luton and tried to do to Bournemouth. They dont give a toss coz we aint big box office. I firmly believe all at PG did all they could but the FL would not budge and were insisting on further points deductions. MLT - always a legend. Just hope RL doesnt come back!!!

andysaint wrote:

supersaints wrote:

Alvin82 wrote: As a fan I am equally frustrated, but I certainly don't think the way forward is to throw abuse at anybody. I think there has been some incidents where people, who are clearly frustrated and upset, have taken it out on the wrong people if you ask. "Those people need to take stock of things, think about the bigger picture and hopefully Mark Fry can find somebody who is willing to come forward and save our club." The quote above from Le Tiss hasn't been picked up on here - no surprise as it seems many of you are blinkered. This is the first time I have contributed in ages on this site but have watched everything with interest and all the comments on this site. Le Tiss IMHO is having a dig at all of you on here who were having a go at Mark Fry, and having a go at Fialka. Clearly the FL are at some great degree at fault here, but there have been so many accusations on here that it is unsurprising that Pinnacle have bailed. I suspect the 'who is Fialka?' story by the Echo didn't help either. If i was Fialka and I had all that cash - and let us assume that Fry had done his bit and was happy with this - then i would rightly be aggrieved with so called supporters who didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. Guys, think before you speak and as Le Tiss says 'look at the bigger picture'. You contributors, (albeit not all but you know who you are)haven't done yourself and the club we all love any favours. Just hope the swiss group come in before it's too late. COYR!!

i have to agree those comments from some saints fans had to have an affect

Do you honestly believe that LeTiss, Lynham, Fialka ect have spent the last 6 weeks trawling the echo websites to see what people think of them? These are serious businessmen looking to save our football club - the comments posted on here dont mean diddly squat to them.
PG have withdrawn because of the unresonable behaviour of the FL and any other potential purchasers wont come forward for the same reason. The FL is killing us as they did Luton and tried to do to Bournemouth. They dont give a toss coz we aint big box office.
I firmly believe all at PG did all they could but the FL would not budge and were insisting on further points deductions.
MLT - always a legend. Just hope RL doesnt come back!!!

Damreds wrote:
Poor old Scummers
Looks like 'le God' failed


Up The Cherries

st ewe saint wrote:

Damreds wrote: Poor old Scummers Looks like 'le God' failed Up The Cherries

Ha Ha........Saints haven't done their " lets get a decent crowd in for are poor old neighbours" game for the past couple of seasons. Oh No !.....they get the skates in for that now ! no morals. Go crawl under you stone mate....we are talking about a proper football club with a proper fan base.Remember who helped keep you in business . Saints Forever,

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear wrote:
Old Worzil Gummage was out on the golf course! Stands to reason I suppose he aint to bright and I suppose he got the wrong end of the stick when PG said they had to sort out the handicaps!

Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:
Getting told everything was go and you'd seal the deal by Tuesday was not a very wise thing to say Matt. Lead a lot hope to be dashed. Now it's very important to release the details of the FL issues. Also can you or any one please tell us anything about alleged Austrian Red Bull interest?

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote: Old Worzil Gummage was out on the golf course! Stands to reason I suppose he aint to bright and I suppose he got the wrong end of the stick when PG said they had to sort out the handicaps!

Bet he can spell!!!! Little skate test check your work and find the mistakes! Still glad to be red!!

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear wrote:

st ewe saint wrote:

Damreds wrote: Poor old Scummers Looks like 'le God' failed Up The Cherries

Ha Ha........Saints haven't done their " lets get a decent crowd in for are poor old neighbours" game for the past couple of seasons. Oh No !.....they get the skates in for that now ! no morals. Go crawl under you stone mate....we are talking about a proper football club with a proper fan base.Remember who helped keep you in business . Saints Forever,

No a proper football club would be registered with the league, a proper fan base, don't make us laugh.
Hey maybe they should make you chairman, you seem dim enough!

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote: Old Worzil Gummage was out on the golf course! Stands to reason I suppose he aint to bright and I suppose he got the wrong end of the stick when PG said they had to sort out the handicaps!

Bet he can spell!!!! Little skate test check your work and find the mistakes! Still glad to be red!!

I doubt he. If he could read and write he'd have seen the writing on the wall. Glad to be red? Someone's got to be I suppose. red+ = mug. sw hope-sell, should make it three words and put 'some' at the front

st ewe saint wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:

st ewe saint wrote:

Damreds wrote: Poor old Scummers Looks like 'le God' failed Up The Cherries

Ha Ha........Saints haven't done their " lets get a decent crowd in for are poor old neighbours" game for the past couple of seasons. Oh No !.....they get the skates in for that now ! no morals. Go crawl under you stone mate....we are talking about a proper football club with a proper fan base.Remember who helped keep you in business . Saints Forever,

No a proper football club would be registered with the league, a proper fan base, don't make us laugh. Hey maybe they should make you chairman, you seem dim enough!

A thick skate throwing insults around.....what a surprise. Sort your own lot out before you come on here to mock us .You've got this all to come .We'll be back.

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote: Old Worzil Gummage was out on the golf course! Stands to reason I suppose he aint to bright and I suppose he got the wrong end of the stick when PG said they had to sort out the handicaps!

Bet he can spell!!!! Little skate test check your work and find the mistakes! Still glad to be red!!

I doubt he. If he could read and write he'd have seen the writing on the wall. Glad to be red? Someone's got to be I suppose. red+ = mug. sw hope-sell, should make it three words and put 'some' at the front

Getting better 4/10, now the grammar ! Not too sure about your Maths skills either!

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote: Old Worzil Gummage was out on the golf course! Stands to reason I suppose he aint to bright and I suppose he got the wrong end of the stick when PG said they had to sort out the handicaps!

Bet he can spell!!!! Little skate test check your work and find the mistakes! Still glad to be red!!

I doubt he. If he could read and write he'd have seen the writing on the wall. Glad to be red? Someone's got to be I suppose. red+ = mug. sw hope-sell, should make it three words and put 'some' at the front

Getting better 4/10, now the grammar ! Not too sure about your Maths skills either!

Don't worry about me and my maths mate, as long as there's nothing wrong with potential buyers maths you'll be okay, sorry, must be me grammer, I get things the wrong way around sometimes, I meant doomed. They look at your books and run a mile. Oh and by the way, you're jugging skills are invalid, you're a Saints fan after all.

saint-barnard wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote: Old Worzil Gummage was out on the golf course! Stands to reason I suppose he aint to bright and I suppose he got the wrong end of the stick when PG said they had to sort out the handicaps!

Bet he can spell!!!! Little skate test check your work and find the mistakes! Still glad to be red!!

I doubt he. If he could read and write he'd have seen the writing on the wall. Glad to be red? Someone's got to be I suppose. red+ = mug. sw hope-sell, should make it three words and put 'some' at the front

Getting better 4/10, now the grammar ! Not too sure about your Maths skills either!

Don't worry about me and my maths mate, as long as there's nothing wrong with potential buyers maths you'll be okay, sorry, must be me grammer, I get things the wrong way around sometimes, I meant doomed. They look at your books and run a mile. Oh and by the way, you're jugging skills are invalid, you're a Saints fan after all.

and where are you from then bigmouth? I wonder if you were in a local pub and heard some fans talkin about the situation with our club, would you voice your feeling then?

eastleigh-ian wrote:
can we please lose the scummers and cherries fans . havent they got a life or what ? go crawl back under the stone you came from .

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear wrote:

saint-barnard wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote:

charleyfarley wrote:

IanMurraywearswomens underwear wrote: Old Worzil Gummage was out on the golf course! Stands to reason I suppose he aint to bright and I suppose he got the wrong end of the stick when PG said they had to sort out the handicaps!

Bet he can spell!!!! Little skate test check your work and find the mistakes! Still glad to be red!!

I doubt he. If he could read and write he'd have seen the writing on the wall. Glad to be red? Someone's got to be I suppose. red+ = mug. sw hope-sell, should make it three words and put 'some' at the front

Getting better 4/10, now the grammar ! Not too sure about your Maths skills either!

Don't worry about me and my maths mate, as long as there's nothing wrong with potential buyers maths you'll be okay, sorry, must be me grammer, I get things the wrong way around sometimes, I meant doomed. They look at your books and run a mile. Oh and by the way, you're jugging skills are invalid, you're a Saints fan after all.

and where are you from then bigmouth? I wonder if you were in a local pub and heard some fans talkin about the situation with our club, would you voice your feeling then?

Yeah seeing as you're a complete bunch of pu$$ies.

supermac wrote:

eastleigh-ian wrote: can we please lose the scummers and cherries fans . havent they got a life or what ? go crawl back under the stone you came from .

Why?Friendly banter has always been part of being a footie fan.Got to take the rough with the smooth my old mate,good times and bad,try being a cherries supporter for forty odd years and you will know what i mean.Two seasons of points deductions hurts but never give up.Football off the pitch will never be the same again but you cant take away the buzz that you get on the pitch,lighten up and keep the faith.

sidenns wrote:
Anybody seen this one yet??? http://www.southampt on-mad.co.uk/news/lo adnews.asp?cid=TMNW&
amp; id=452149

Ross96 wrote:
I've never heard of the austian group yet. Is there stil hope

IanMurraywearswomens
underwear wrote:
You could always ask Le Tossier to get onto the Wizard of Oz, he must owe him cause he stitched him up with the brain he was supposed to give him.

St.Yorkie wrote:
I want to hijack this thread and ask a very simple question...

If it stop Saints from folding would you welcome Rupert Lowe back?

Balders76 wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote: I want to hijack this thread and ask a very simple question... If it stop Saints from folding would you welcome Rupert Lowe back?

through gritted teeth mate - yes but I would be highly suspicious.

Captain Swing wrote:

Balders76 wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote: I want to hijack this thread and ask a very simple question... If it stop Saints from folding would you welcome Rupert Lowe back?

through gritted teeth mate - yes but I would be highly suspicious.

There's a bottoml ine here, if we had trusted Rupert rather than the Echo and the rumour mongers we'd still have a football club.

Hands up all those that trusted the Echo before it started slagging Rupert big time?

Lorenzo wrote:
I just hope all those smart arses who thought it so clever to advocate withdrawal of support are happy now. None of their so called reasons for doing so have been vindicated, and now it looks like they'll end up with exactly what they deserve. Thanks guys, as a staunch supporter no-matter-what you all sicken me.

St.Yorkie wrote:
I want to hijack this thread and ask a very simple question... If it stop Saints from folding would you welcome Rupert Lowe back?

St.Yorkie wrote:
I want to hijack this thread and ask a very simple question... If it stop Saints from folding would you welcome Rupert Lowe back?

Stafford Saint wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote: I want to hijack this thread and ask a very simple question... If it stop Saints from folding would you welcome Rupert Lowe back?

On one of the other pages a poster mentioned the wasted money in the past. He bemoaned in a heartfelt way the has-been players taking the big wages out of us for little product. Another post spoke of the future and just hoped for a simple club existing, even if not lavish and ambitious. WELL, we had that this time last year and people wasted that opportunity to avoid the mess of this summer. Last summer was a crossroads for each fan. We had some realism about the strength of the club (or the strength of the share price, but then that is much the same in modern football, deal with it). Lowe wanted the club to survive and get better over time. He may have wanted that because he feared for his shares but I am big enough to see that doesn't really matter, we were pulling in the same direction after all. MORE THAN THAT we had the team that poster would have preferred with so much of the wasted players on the way out. Players young, keen and fit would make up our team. The luanacy of automatic team starts for has-beens and the famous but injured and first team training apart from the reserves was brought to an end. Managers not committed to us and enviously wanted a transfer as the answer to every problem or they will walk were no longer wanted. The Saturday team was to be picked on merit that week. Skills were to have a value and a purpose. The football would coincidentally be more impressive. Yes victories would not come easy, but oh what a thrill to see the boys edge it out through quality and verve! We could have been such proud fans. 'A Great Escape' from the financial calamities of relegation and football wages. BUT NO, people had to moan, had to stay away, had to talk the team down and encourage others to not go. We have such arrogant support. Some like to score mighty points by knowing better than the players, the coaches and the board about football and are willing to stop being genuine fans to stand their ground. And at any point in the year we could have turned the corner as fans but didn't. Err I am rambling now, sorry. But a pertinant point I think is that the future we might have now will be like the recent past. If we survive, it might well be with a modest board (and a very restrictive overdraft facility!). The board will be nervous about the depth of our support for the Saints and them. There might not be any big signings. Players will be let go. The team will be young and cheap (like most divisin 1 teams, excluding money-bags Leicester). Hmmm exactly like last year. But getting rid of Lowe has meant relegation and because of the lack of preparation and the points penalty, an extra season down. My vote is with time travel! Or failing that, I support the new board whoever they are and support the Saints.

Saint_John wrote:

Stafford Saint wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote: I want to hijack this thread and ask a very simple question... If it stop Saints from folding would you welcome Rupert Lowe back?

On one of the other pages a poster mentioned the wasted money in the past. He bemoaned in a heartfelt way the has-been players taking the big wages out of us for little product. Another post spoke of the future and just hoped for a simple club existing, even if not lavish and ambitious. WELL, we had that this time last year and people wasted that opportunity to avoid the mess of this summer. Last summer was a crossroads for each fan. We had some realism about the strength of the club (or the strength of the share price, but then that is much the same in modern football, deal with it). Lowe wanted the club to survive and get better over time. He may have wanted that because he feared for his shares but I am big enough to see that doesn't really matter, we were pulling in the same direction after all. MORE THAN THAT we had the team that poster would have preferred with so much of the wasted players on the way out. Players young, keen and fit would make up our team. The luanacy of automatic team starts for has-beens and the famous but injured and first team training apart from the reserves was brought to an end. Managers not committed to us and enviously wanted a transfer as the answer to every problem or they will walk were no longer wanted. The Saturday team was to be picked on merit that week. Skills were to have a value and a purpose. The football would coincidentally be more impressive. Yes victories would not come easy, but oh what a thrill to see the boys edge it out through quality and verve! We could have been such proud fans. 'A Great Escape' from the financial calamities of relegation and football wages. BUT NO, people had to moan, had to stay away, had to talk the team down and encourage others to not go. We have such arrogant support. Some like to score mighty points by knowing better than the players, the coaches and the board about football and are willing to stop being genuine fans to stand their ground. And at any point in the year we could have turned the corner as fans but didn't. Err I am rambling now, sorry. But a pertinant point I think is that the future we might have now will be like the recent past. If we survive, it might well be with a modest board (and a very restrictive overdraft facility!). The board will be nervous about the depth of our support for the Saints and them. There might not be any big signings. Players will be let go. The team will be young and cheap (like most divisin 1 teams, excluding money-bags Leicester). Hmmm exactly like last year. But getting rid of Lowe has meant relegation and because of the lack of preparation and the points penalty, an extra season down. My vote is with time travel! Or failing that, I support the new board whoever they are and support the Saints.

As I keep telling people the dark-lord was telling somebody on the London Underground FIVE WEEKS BEFORE the 10 point deadline that we "In effect already in Admin" BUT HE WAITED until after that date to get the -10pts carried over to this season.

The last few days have shown the problems that has generated, but he saw that as his only hope of regaining control.
Remember you are dealing with the man with the biggest EGO in the world here, who would take -25 every season just to say in control.

THOUSANDS WILL stay away next season if he returns (we might even get as lowe as the Skates with 2,731 in Sept 2000) and it unlikely that NU / Barclays would see any of the "add-ons" (return to higher leagues etc.).

THEREFORE THEY (NU/Barclays) will get more by "folding" the club.