Giant dog ate part of my wife's arm (From Daily Echo)

Bartonian wrote:
As usual, nasty comments from idiotic people like the ones above!

Huffybear wrote:
We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

dbuxey52 wrote:
Who cares where anybody gets their hair done? Let's keep our eye on the ball here. This poor lady rightly or wrongly approached a strange dog in the street and is now going to face years of cosmetic surgery to correct the damage done. It is our taxes which fund the N. H. S. and that means we pay.

flower49 wrote:

Huffybear wrote:
We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

It could have been a childs face scarred for life. I hope they DO put it down when they find it. This dog was on the street with no muzzle and nobody with it. Sorry to all you namby pamby do-gooders, but if it is capable of an injury like this without any provacation then it is a vicious out of control animal.Now lets wait for the comments of "There are no bad dogs only bad owners" BULLSH*T

Chakka Khan, Chakka Khan wrote:

Bartonian wrote: As usual, nasty comments from idiotic people like the ones above!

Chakka Khan, Chakka Khan I'm quite clever actually and I get my hair done at Netley March and it looks terrible. Out of interest, where do you get yours done and is it nice? Chakka Khan, Chakka Khan

Huffybear wrote: We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

Huffybear wrote: We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

Bartonian wrote:
As usual, nasty comments from idiotic people like the ones above!

steveeew wrote:
To tell the story about the arms race in response to this article is in very bad taste.

Chakka Khan, Chakka Khan wrote:

greystonesben wrote: At the height of the arms race, the Western World and Russians realised that, if they continued, they would someday end up destroying the world. So they sat down and decided to settle the whole dispute with a dogfight. The negotiators agreed that each country would take five years to develop the best fighting dog they could. The dog that won the fight would earn its country the right to rule the world. The losing side would have to lay down its arms. The Russians found the biggest, meanest Dobermen and Rottweilers in the world. They bred them together and then crossed their offspring with the meanest Siberian Wolves. They selected only the biggest, strongest puppy from each litter, killed all the other puppies and fed the lone dog all of the milk. They used steroids and trainers in their quest for the perfect killing machine, until, after the five years were up, they had a dog that needed iron prison bars on his cage. Only the trainers could handle this beast. When the day of the big fight arrived, the British showed up with a strange animal: It was a nine-foot-long Dachshund. Everyone felt sorry for us. No one else thought this weird animal stood a chance against the growling beast in the Russian camp. The bookies predicted the Russians would win in less than a minute. The cages were opened. The Dachshund waddled toward the centre of the ring. The Russian dog leapt from his cage and charged the giant sausage-dog. As he got to within an inch of the Brits dog, the Dachshund opened its jaws and swallowed the Russian beast in one bite. There was nothing left but a small bit of fur from the killer dog's tail. The Russians approached the British trainers, shaking their heads in disbelief. "We do not understand. Our top scientists and breeders worked for five years with the meanest, biggest Doberman and Rottweiler's. They developed a killing machine." "Really?" the Brits replied. "We had our top plastic surgeons working solidly for five years to make an alligator look like a Dachshund...." A thank you, im here all week, try the crab soup, it is truely delicious!

Loving your work ;O)

Georgem wrote:
How can we make a dog "illegal"?

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
I expect the owner will turn out to be an unemployed cretin living in a council flat. Probably owned a Doberman or a Bull Terrier before but found that people didn't 'respect' him enough. Good customer of local tattoo artist, suffers low self-esteem, poorly educated and knuckles drag along pavement.

greystonesben wrote:

steveeew wrote:
To tell the story about the arms race in response to this article is in very bad taste.

Good job it was not a factually based story then and only a joke.

Some people are so sensitive, life is short, learn to have a laugh

flower49 wrote:

Huffybear wrote:
We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

It could have been a childs face scarred for life. I hope they DO put it down when they find it. This dog was on the street with no muzzle and nobody with it. Sorry to all you namby pamby do-gooders, but if it is capable of an injury like this without any provacation then it is a vicious out of control animal.Now lets wait for the comments of "There are no bad dogs only bad owners" BULLSH*T

flower49 wrote:

Huffybear wrote: We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

It could have been a childs face scarred for life. I hope they DO put it down when they find it. This dog was on the street with no muzzle and nobody with it. Sorry to all you namby pamby do-gooders, but if it is capable of an injury like this without any provacation then it is a vicious out of control animal.Now lets wait for the comments of "There are no bad dogs only bad owners" BULLSH*T

Chakka Khan, Chakka Khan wrote:

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
I expect the owner will turn out to be an unemployed cretin living in a council flat. Probably owned a Doberman or a Bull Terrier before but found that people didn't 'respect' him enough. Good customer of local tattoo artist, suffers low self-esteem, poorly educated and knuckles drag along pavement.

WOW! blimey and bloody hell!

FINISHED YOUR DAILY MAIL YET?

flower49 wrote:

Huffybear wrote:
We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

It could have been a childs face scarred for life. I hope they DO put it down when they find it. This dog was on the street with no muzzle and nobody with it. Sorry to all you namby pamby do-gooders, but if it is capable of an injury like this without any provacation then it is a vicious out of control animal.Now lets wait for the comments of "There are no bad dogs only bad owners" BULLSH*T

Dogs dont have the same mentality as we do. We know right form wrong

Derek of Dibden Purlieu wrote:
I expect the owner will turn out to be an unemployed cretin living in a council flat. Probably owned a Doberman or a Bull Terrier before but found that people didn't 'respect' him enough. Good customer of local tattoo artist, suffers low self-esteem, poorly educated and knuckles drag along pavement.

greystonesben wrote:
At the height of the arms race, the Western World and Russians realised that, if they continued, they would someday end up destroying the world. So they sat down and decided to settle the whole dispute with a dogfight. The negotiators agreed that each country would take five years to develop the best fighting dog they could. The dog that won the fight would earn its country the right to rule the world. The losing side would have to lay down its arms. The Russians found the biggest, meanest Dobermen and Rottweilers in the world. They bred them together and then crossed their offspring with the meanest Siberian Wolves. They selected only the biggest, strongest puppy from each litter, killed all the other puppies and fed the lone dog all of the milk. They used steroids and trainers in their quest for the perfect killing machine, until, after the five years were up, they had a dog that needed iron prison bars on his cage. Only the trainers could handle this beast. When the day of the big fight arrived, the British showed up with a strange animal: It was a nine-foot-long Dachshund. Everyone felt sorry for us. No one else thought this weird animal stood a chance against the growling beast in the Russian camp. The bookies predicted the Russians would win in less than a minute. The cages were opened. The Dachshund waddled toward the centre of the ring. The Russian dog leapt from his cage and charged the giant sausage-dog. As he got to within an inch of the Brits dog, the Dachshund opened its jaws and swallowed the Russian beast in one bite. There was nothing left but a small bit of fur from the killer dog's tail. The Russians approached the British trainers, shaking their heads in disbelief. "We do not understand. Our top scientists and breeders worked for five years with the meanest, biggest Doberman and Rottweiler's. They developed a killing machine." "Really?" the Brits replied. "We had our top plastic surgeons working solidly for five years to make an alligator look like a Dachshund...." A thank you, im here all week, try the crab soup, it is truely delicious!

Duncan Disorderly wrote:
"It was only when she screamed that the animal let go." Was it a long time before she screamed, then?

teamgreen wrote:

greystonesben wrote: At the height of the arms race, the Western World and Russians realised that, if they continued, they would someday end up destroying the world. So they sat down and decided to settle the whole dispute with a dogfight. The negotiators agreed that each country would take five years to develop the best fighting dog they could. The dog that won the fight would earn its country the right to rule the world. The losing side would have to lay down its arms. The Russians found the biggest, meanest Dobermen and Rottweilers in the world. They bred them together and then crossed their offspring with the meanest Siberian Wolves. They selected only the biggest, strongest puppy from each litter, killed all the other puppies and fed the lone dog all of the milk. They used steroids and trainers in their quest for the perfect killing machine, until, after the five years were up, they had a dog that needed iron prison bars on his cage. Only the trainers could handle this beast. When the day of the big fight arrived, the British showed up with a strange animal: It was a nine-foot-long Dachshund. Everyone felt sorry for us. No one else thought this weird animal stood a chance against the growling beast in the Russian camp. The bookies predicted the Russians would win in less than a minute. The cages were opened. The Dachshund waddled toward the centre of the ring. The Russian dog leapt from his cage and charged the giant sausage-dog. As he got to within an inch of the Brits dog, the Dachshund opened its jaws and swallowed the Russian beast in one bite. There was nothing left but a small bit of fur from the killer dog's tail. The Russians approached the British trainers, shaking their heads in disbelief. "We do not understand. Our top scientists and breeders worked for five years with the meanest, biggest Doberman and Rottweiler's. They developed a killing machine." "Really?" the Brits replied. "We had our top plastic surgeons working solidly for five years to make an alligator look like a Dachshund...." A thank you, im here all week, try the crab soup, it is truely delicious!

thank you that was needed by the way where do you get your hair done

greystonesben wrote:

Duncan Disorderly wrote:
"It was only when she screamed that the animal let go." Was it a long time before she screamed, then?

I like to think that she first attempted politely to ask the dog to refrain from clamping down on her arm and when the dog refused, she slightly raised her voice and repeated the above in a more stern tone. Failing that, she then shouted at Pooch advising she is incredibly upset with him and that he better let go. Finally before the last resort of screaming, I like to think she may have given it a short sharp tap on the nose complimented with the phrase 'drop'.

Im sure she didnt have a water pistol handy so the finale (which thank heaven worked) was to scream. I hear that the sound of a scream reminds most Akita's of their babysitting careers and they tend to become quite docile when you scream.

db_3 wrote:
I'm sorry but you've got to laugh at that ridiculous headline "Giant dog ate part of my wife's arm".

On a serious note, dangerous dogs need to be controlled and the women acted without engaging brain.

Family Man wrote:
There are certain breeds of dog which could be described as lifestyle/status dogs. The Akita is perhaps one. I realise that there are good owners and bad owners, and unfortunately they often all get tarred with the same brush. Nevertheless I would question the motives of anyone who wants to own one of those breeds and whether in choosing that breed they are in fact showing the wrong motivation and would be a fit owner. Unfortunately there is no system of licensing owners, in the same way as their is no way of licensing parenthood so that there are unfit ones in both!

flower49 wrote:

Huffybear wrote: We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

It could have been a childs face scarred for life. I hope they DO put it down when they find it. This dog was on the street with no muzzle and nobody with it. Sorry to all you namby pamby do-gooders, but if it is capable of an injury like this without any provacation then it is a vicious out of control animal.Now lets wait for the comments of "There are no bad dogs only bad owners" BULLSH*T

Japanese Akita President Woofums de Mandbiles was earlier today assaulted by a human in Eastleigh. President de Mandibles was minding his own business outside a local car watering hole, whilst his pet human was inside exchanging bits of paper for unknown services. The human, understood to be 203 year old Kay Cossey, approached the President and proceeded to touch him in an inappropriate, unexpected and overly-familiar way for someone who has never met Woofums before.

The President defended himself, and the human promptly left the scene of the incident before canine police could be summoned. According to unconfirmed reports, the human is blaming de Mandibles for the entire incident.

President de Mandibles is quoted as saying "Ms Cossey's arm was quite tasty, but needed more marrowbone jelly, to be honest"

Georgem wrote:
Report found in Dog Echo (translated into English):

Japanese Akita President Woofums de Mandbiles was earlier today assaulted by a human in Eastleigh. President de Mandibles was minding his own business outside a local car watering hole, whilst his pet human was inside exchanging bits of paper for unknown services. The human, understood to be 203 year old Kay Cossey, approached the President and proceeded to touch him in an inappropriate, unexpected and overly-familiar way for someone who has never met Woofums before.

The President defended himself, and the human promptly left the scene of the incident before canine police could be summoned. According to unconfirmed reports, the human is blaming de Mandibles for the entire incident.

President de Mandibles is quoted as saying "Ms Cossey's arm was quite tasty, but needed more marrowbone jelly, to be honest"

bemused26 wrote:
Mind you, it probably doesn't help that the Echo have used a photo of the scariest Akita out there! If you do an image search for Akita, you will see that they are not all as huge and scary looking as the one on this article. I always used to call them the 'teddy like' dogs when I was younger because they look so much like teddy bears :)

greystonesben wrote:

bemused26 wrote: Mind you, it probably doesn't help that the Echo have used a photo of the scariest Akita out there! If you do an image search for Akita, you will see that they are not all as huge and scary looking as the one on this article. I always used to call them the 'teddy like' dogs when I was younger because they look so much like teddy bears :)

Ahhh, I have just done an image search too, they are so cute! I want one!!! Im going to train him up to lok very cute but in a deceptive way to allure silly people over to stroke it and then he will bite them. Honestly, some people dont have a clue, I wouldnt stroke any dog, no matter how big or small if I didnt know the dog. Every dog's temprement is different, hence why you can get big docile teddy like Rotteilers that wouldnt hurt a fly and vicious ankle biting Jack Russels, every dog is different. People that go up to strange dogs to pet them deserve to be bitten. Harsh maybe but it's simple common sense!

Georgem wrote:
This is nothing! I saw a six foot man eating chicken the other day

coxford wrote:
What I would like to know is where's the evidence that the dog actually ate this 'huge' chunk? Has the giant fighting dog really got a taste for human flesh?

thesaint wrote:
it should have a dog Muzzle on to protect the public,all these type of dogs are not pets.

coxford wrote:
"THE hunt is on for a giant fighting dog that bit off and ate a huge chunk out of a woman’s arm."

Without doubt one of the funniest pieces of journalism ever. Give Mr Eaton a Pulitzer NOW!!

The Echo can reveal exclusively today that a giant wolf is coming from the North to devour the entire country. According to our Scandinavian correspondent, the apocalyptic wolven one - known locally as Fenrir - is "the destroyer of worlds, brothers will fight and kill each other, sisters' children will defile kinship. It is harsh in the world, whoredom rife, an axe age, a sword age, shields are riven, a wind age, a wolf age before the world goes headlong". Sandra Gidley was unavailable for comment, but John Denham was quoted as saying "Ooer, well, it all sounds a bit Tory, doesn't it".

A consortium led by Matt le Tissier are looking into building an ice rink to combat the menace

Georgem wrote:
How far will the Echo push the boundaries of hyperbole tomorrow?

The Echo can reveal exclusively today that a giant wolf is coming from the North to devour the entire country. According to our Scandinavian correspondent, the apocalyptic wolven one - known locally as Fenrir - is "the destroyer of worlds, brothers will fight and kill each other, sisters' children will defile kinship. It is harsh in the world, whoredom rife, an axe age, a sword age, shields are riven, a wind age, a wolf age before the world goes headlong". Sandra Gidley was unavailable for comment, but John Denham was quoted as saying "Ooer, well, it all sounds a bit Tory, doesn't it".

A consortium led by Matt le Tissier are looking into building an ice rink to combat the menace

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

flower49 wrote:

Huffybear wrote: We teach our kids not to approach strange dogs so can't understand why an adult would want to approach a tethered dog. I guess the dog will be put down when they find it.

It could have been a childs face scarred for life. I hope they DO put it down when they find it. This dog was on the street with no muzzle and nobody with it. Sorry to all you namby pamby do-gooders, but if it is capable of an injury like this without any provacation then it is a vicious out of control animal.Now lets wait for the comments of "There are no bad dogs only bad owners" BULLSH*T

I agree, you don't have a dog like that in a public place where a child could easily run over to it... if it's aggressive then it's muzzled... personally I don't know why people want to keep these animals who are bred not as 'pets' but for a different purpose. A properly trained dog will not be startled by 'pats'. I'm a bit puzzled though why they didn't call the police at the time? surely the dog's owner appeared at some point?

These are animals, they're not robots.

grumpy nearly old woman wrote:
Oh dear oh dear the demon menace of the dog has reared it's head again to be promptly followed by the usual raft of ill informed knee jerk responses. "Ban It, Kill It etc," There is a very ill used phrase "personal responsibily", we have no concept of this phrase anymore because whatever stupid or ill advised thing we do someone else is always responsible, never us. Couple of points this incident happened at 9.30pm I really doubt the streets were full of unaccompanied small children in mortal danger of being scarred for life. A dog is a dog no matter what size or what breed and needs to be treated as such i.e it has the POTENTIAL to cause injury, so has a golf ball, a fishing line, a bicycle and just about anything else. Do not approach unaccompanied animals, any animals, to them you may well present a threat or a cause of fear and they will react accordingly and for heavens sake parents teach your kids to have respect not fear and ask before you interfere with someone elses animal. Most dogs are happy to be patted and stroked, some aren't ask first!! A final point it is equally stupid to leave a dog, again any dog, tied to a post in a public place more for the dogs safety than anything else. Let's hope that yet another scarifice to stupidity doesn't have to be made. At my age I can remember when dogs were enjoyed and it was great to have the family dog to go to the park let the dog have a run around with the kids, now it's all poop patrols, dangerous dogs and on the spot fines. God help us is all I can say.

greystonesben wrote:
At the height of the arms race, the Western World and Russians realised that, if they continued, they would someday end up destroying the world. So they sat down and decided to settle the whole dispute with a dogfight.

The negotiators agreed that each country would take five years to develop the best fighting dog they could. The dog that won the fight would earn its country the right to rule the world. The losing side would have to lay down its arms.

The Russians found the biggest, meanest Dobermen and Rottweilers in the world. They bred them together and then crossed their offspring with the meanest Siberian Wolves. They selected only the biggest, strongest puppy from each litter, killed all the other puppies and fed the lone dog all of the milk. They used steroids and trainers in their quest for the perfect killing machine, until, after the five years were up, they had a dog that needed iron prison bars on his cage. Only the trainers could handle this beast.

When the day of the big fight arrived, the British showed up with a strange animal: It was a nine-foot-long Dachshund. Everyone felt sorry for us. No one else thought this weird animal stood a chance against the growling beast in the Russian camp. The bookies predicted the Russians would win in less than a minute.

The cages were opened. The Dachshund waddled toward the centre of the ring. The Russian dog leapt from his cage and charged the giant sausage-dog. As he got to within an inch of the Brits dog, the Dachshund opened its jaws and swallowed the Russian beast in one bite. There was nothing left but a small bit of fur from the killer dog's tail.

The Russians approached the British trainers, shaking their heads in disbelief. "We do not understand. Our top scientists and breeders worked for five years with the meanest, biggest Doberman and Rottweiler's. They developed a killing machine."

"Really?" the Brits replied. "We had our top plastic surgeons working solidly for five years to make an alligator look like a Dachshund...."

A thank you, im here all week, try the crab soup, it is truely delicious!

bemused26 wrote:
I'm not getting into the debate about whether the dog should be put to sleep or not. I will say that the woman, although I do feel a teeny bit sorry for her, should not have touched a dog she didn't know under any circumstances. That was very daft. Also, I think the Echo needs to research things properly. Unless they have some kind of evidence they are not telling us, that this dog was specifically used for fighting, they have got it a bit wrong. Japanese Akitas are not 'fighting dogs' at all. In fact they have a very good reputation with kids even. (Not so much strangers, they freak them out) I think maybe they are confusing the Akita with the Japanese Tosa? That is a fighting dog and illegal in the UK. Just my 2 cents.

Country bumpkin 85 wrote:
Akitas are renowned as loyal dogs and also intelligent and because of their intelligence are easily bored. As a result, they often become destructive if not given anything to do. Akitas can live happily in apartments as long as they are given plenty of exercise. Although they love human companionship, they are quite happy to be outside dogs as well, but should still be taken out for walks to prevent destruction of the yard. Akitas often become excitable when seeing their owners, often wiggling around and making happy grunts. They will also cry if they are hungry. Akitas are very good with children, and are often quite playful, although they should be watched around small children as they could knock them over during play. The Akita Inu have a reputation for sometimes being aggressive towards strangers, smaller animals or other dogs, particularly those of the same sex . Akitas would rather live in a home with no other pets present, unless they have been raised with them during puppyhood. People should use their common sense and not touch animals you dont know. The woman may have shown a little fear or stared at it in the eyes, This would threaten a dog. Crazy woman

grumpy nearly old woman wrote:
Oh dear oh dear the demon menace of the dog has reared it's head again to be promptly followed by the usual raft of ill informed knee jerk responses. "Ban It, Kill It etc," There is a very ill used phrase "personal responsibily", we have no concept of this phrase anymore because whatever stupid or ill advised thing we do someone else is always responsible, never us. Couple of points this incident happened at 9.30pm I really doubt the streets were full of unaccompanied small children in mortal danger of being scarred for life. A dog is a dog no matter what size or what breed and needs to be treated as such i.e it has the POTENTIAL to cause injury, so has a golf ball, a fishing line, a bicycle and just about anything else. Do not approach unaccompanied animals, any animals, to them you may well present a threat or a cause of fear and they will react accordingly and for heavens sake parents teach your kids to have respect not fear and ask before you interfere with someone elses animal. Most dogs are happy to be patted and stroked, some aren't ask first!! A final point it is equally stupid to leave a dog, again any dog, tied to a post in a public place more for the dogs safety than anything else. Let's hope that yet another scarifice to stupidity doesn't have to be made. At my age I can remember when dogs were enjoyed and it was great to have the family dog to go to the park let the dog have a run around with the kids, now it's all poop patrols, dangerous dogs and on the spot fines. God help us is all I can say.

jaspm7 wrote:
DarsySanto Said:- "Could you please explain to me what is wrong with people getting on the spot fines for letting their dogs foul public parks and other areas that kids play in? How can you be possibly be against that?" Well darsy, let me explain - dogs foul the ground, worms eat the excrement and process it, worms excrete, grass grows, grazing animals eat grass, dogs AND us eat grazing animals.....ITS THE CIRCLE OF LIFE - ARE YOU GOING TO STOP IT??

lasoton wrote:
I wouldn't get within 10 feet of that dog, it's massive!

greystonesben wrote:

lasoton wrote:
I wouldn't get within 10 feet of that dog, it's massive!

You wouldnt need to, his bite reach is atleast 15-20 feet. The lady was actually on the other side of the road when it bit her!

flower49 wrote:

grumpy nearly old woman wrote:
Oh dear oh dear the demon menace of the dog has reared it's head again to be promptly followed by the usual raft of ill informed knee jerk responses. "Ban It, Kill It etc," There is a very ill used phrase "personal responsibily", we have no concept of this phrase anymore because whatever stupid or ill advised thing we do someone else is always responsible, never us. Couple of points this incident happened at 9.30pm I really doubt the streets were full of unaccompanied small children in mortal danger of being scarred for life. A dog is a dog no matter what size or what breed and needs to be treated as such i.e it has the POTENTIAL to cause injury, so has a golf ball, a fishing line, a bicycle and just about anything else. Do not approach unaccompanied animals, any animals, to them you may well present a threat or a cause of fear and they will react accordingly and for heavens sake parents teach your kids to have respect not fear and ask before you interfere with someone elses animal. Most dogs are happy to be patted and stroked, some aren't ask first!! A final point it is equally stupid to leave a dog, again any dog, tied to a post in a public place more for the dogs safety than anything else. Let's hope that yet another scarifice to stupidity doesn't have to be made. At my age I can remember when dogs were enjoyed and it was great to have the family dog to go to the park let the dog have a run around with the kids, now it's all poop patrols, dangerous dogs and on the spot fines. God help us is all I can say.

The point I was trying to make was if an adult has been injured to that extent after stroking the dog, then the result would have been more horrific if it had been a child, and by child I mean anyone under 16yrs, by the way as for it happening at 9-30pm, what are you trying to say, "That it only bites after the watershed", and thank you freemantlegirl2, your comments reasure me that not everyone has lost the plot.

Georgem wrote:

flower49 wrote:

grumpy nearly old woman wrote: Oh dear oh dear the demon menace of the dog has reared it's head again to be promptly followed by the usual raft of ill informed knee jerk responses. "Ban It, Kill It etc," There is a very ill used phrase "personal responsibily", we have no concept of this phrase anymore because whatever stupid or ill advised thing we do someone else is always responsible, never us. Couple of points this incident happened at 9.30pm I really doubt the streets were full of unaccompanied small children in mortal danger of being scarred for life. A dog is a dog no matter what size or what breed and needs to be treated as such i.e it has the POTENTIAL to cause injury, so has a golf ball, a fishing line, a bicycle and just about anything else. Do not approach unaccompanied animals, any animals, to them you may well present a threat or a cause of fear and they will react accordingly and for heavens sake parents teach your kids to have respect not fear and ask before you interfere with someone elses animal. Most dogs are happy to be patted and stroked, some aren't ask first!! A final point it is equally stupid to leave a dog, again any dog, tied to a post in a public place more for the dogs safety than anything else. Let's hope that yet another scarifice to stupidity doesn't have to be made. At my age I can remember when dogs were enjoyed and it was great to have the family dog to go to the park let the dog have a run around with the kids, now it's all poop patrols, dangerous dogs and on the spot fines. God help us is all I can say.

The point I was trying to make was if an adult has been injured to that extent after stroking the dog, then the result would have been more horrific if it had been a child, and by child I mean anyone under 16yrs, by the way as for it happening at 9-30pm, what are you trying to say, "That it only bites after the watershed", and thank you freemantlegirl2, your comments reasure me that not everyone has lost the plot.

Everybody understands your point, flower, it's just flawed and we can all see it. Yes if the dog had bitten a child, the result might have been nastier. But it wasn't. That's your basic appeal to emotion fallacy, right there. Saying "it might have been a child" doesn't make this incident any worse. If you were to, oh let's say, reverse your car into a concrete post, would it be ok for me to point and be aghast and say "what if that had been a child!"? "Think of the children!" is a classic politicians trick. If you use it, you support terrorism. You don't hate Great Britain, do you? captcha(and I'm not making this up): baby-case

flower49 wrote:

Georgem wrote:

flower49 wrote:

grumpy nearly old woman wrote: Oh dear oh dear the demon menace of the dog has reared it's head again to be promptly followed by the usual raft of ill informed knee jerk responses. "Ban It, Kill It etc," There is a very ill used phrase "personal responsibily", we have no concept of this phrase anymore because whatever stupid or ill advised thing we do someone else is always responsible, never us. Couple of points this incident happened at 9.30pm I really doubt the streets were full of unaccompanied small children in mortal danger of being scarred for life. A dog is a dog no matter what size or what breed and needs to be treated as such i.e it has the POTENTIAL to cause injury, so has a golf ball, a fishing line, a bicycle and just about anything else. Do not approach unaccompanied animals, any animals, to them you may well present a threat or a cause of fear and they will react accordingly and for heavens sake parents teach your kids to have respect not fear and ask before you interfere with someone elses animal. Most dogs are happy to be patted and stroked, some aren't ask first!! A final point it is equally stupid to leave a dog, again any dog, tied to a post in a public place more for the dogs safety than anything else. Let's hope that yet another scarifice to stupidity doesn't have to be made. At my age I can remember when dogs were enjoyed and it was great to have the family dog to go to the park let the dog have a run around with the kids, now it's all poop patrols, dangerous dogs and on the spot fines. God help us is all I can say.

The point I was trying to make was if an adult has been injured to that extent after stroking the dog, then the result would have been more horrific if it had been a child, and by child I mean anyone under 16yrs, by the way as for it happening at 9-30pm, what are you trying to say, "That it only bites after the watershed", and thank you freemantlegirl2, your comments reasure me that not everyone has lost the plot.

Everybody understands your point, flower, it's just flawed and we can all see it. Yes if the dog had bitten a child, the result might have been nastier. But it wasn't. That's your basic appeal to emotion fallacy, right there. Saying "it might have been a child" doesn't make this incident any worse. If you were to, oh let's say, reverse your car into a concrete post, would it be ok for me to point and be aghast and say "what if that had been a child!"? "Think of the children!" is a classic politicians trick. If you use it, you support terrorism. You don't hate Great Britain, do you? captcha(and I'm not making this up): baby-case

Seems to me that while this is a site for anybody to make a comment, you will always get the patronising comments. How did it get from my saying that the injuries could have been much worse if it had been a child, to you saying I support terrorism. I find this comment extremlly upsetting as my dad was killed in an IRA attack when I was only 17yrs old, he died sadly leaving my mum with 4 young children and he was only 37yrs old. And yes he loved Great Britain, he fought for it. Have you? I would like to thank you for totally ruining my day...

flower49 wrote:

Georgem wrote:

flower49 wrote:

grumpy nearly old woman wrote: Oh dear oh dear the demon menace of the dog has reared it's head again to be promptly followed by the usual raft of ill informed knee jerk responses. "Ban It, Kill It etc," There is a very ill used phrase "personal responsibily", we have no concept of this phrase anymore because whatever stupid or ill advised thing we do someone else is always responsible, never us. Couple of points this incident happened at 9.30pm I really doubt the streets were full of unaccompanied small children in mortal danger of being scarred for life. A dog is a dog no matter what size or what breed and needs to be treated as such i.e it has the POTENTIAL to cause injury, so has a golf ball, a fishing line, a bicycle and just about anything else. Do not approach unaccompanied animals, any animals, to them you may well present a threat or a cause of fear and they will react accordingly and for heavens sake parents teach your kids to have respect not fear and ask before you interfere with someone elses animal. Most dogs are happy to be patted and stroked, some aren't ask first!! A final point it is equally stupid to leave a dog, again any dog, tied to a post in a public place more for the dogs safety than anything else. Let's hope that yet another scarifice to stupidity doesn't have to be made. At my age I can remember when dogs were enjoyed and it was great to have the family dog to go to the park let the dog have a run around with the kids, now it's all poop patrols, dangerous dogs and on the spot fines. God help us is all I can say.

The point I was trying to make was if an adult has been injured to that extent after stroking the dog, then the result would have been more horrific if it had been a child, and by child I mean anyone under 16yrs, by the way as for it happening at 9-30pm, what are you trying to say, "That it only bites after the watershed", and thank you freemantlegirl2, your comments reasure me that not everyone has lost the plot.

Everybody understands your point, flower, it's just flawed and we can all see it. Yes if the dog had bitten a child, the result might have been nastier. But it wasn't. That's your basic appeal to emotion fallacy, right there. Saying "it might have been a child" doesn't make this incident any worse. If you were to, oh let's say, reverse your car into a concrete post, would it be ok for me to point and be aghast and say "what if that had been a child!"? "Think of the children!" is a classic politicians trick. If you use it, you support terrorism. You don't hate Great Britain, do you? captcha(and I'm not making this up): baby-case

Seems to me that while this is a site for anybody to make a comment, you will always get the patronising comments. How did it get from my saying that the injuries could have been much worse if it had been a child, to you saying I support terrorism. I find this comment extremlly upsetting as my dad was killed in an IRA attack when I was only 17yrs old, he died sadly leaving my mum with 4 young children and he was only 37yrs old. And yes he loved Great Britain, he fought for it. Have you? I would like to thank you for totally ruining my day...

Georgem wrote:

flower49 wrote:

Georgem wrote:

flower49 wrote:

grumpy nearly old woman wrote: Oh dear oh dear the demon menace of the dog has reared it's head again to be promptly followed by the usual raft of ill informed knee jerk responses. "Ban It, Kill It etc," There is a very ill used phrase "personal responsibily", we have no concept of this phrase anymore because whatever stupid or ill advised thing we do someone else is always responsible, never us. Couple of points this incident happened at 9.30pm I really doubt the streets were full of unaccompanied small children in mortal danger of being scarred for life. A dog is a dog no matter what size or what breed and needs to be treated as such i.e it has the POTENTIAL to cause injury, so has a golf ball, a fishing line, a bicycle and just about anything else. Do not approach unaccompanied animals, any animals, to them you may well present a threat or a cause of fear and they will react accordingly and for heavens sake parents teach your kids to have respect not fear and ask before you interfere with someone elses animal. Most dogs are happy to be patted and stroked, some aren't ask first!! A final point it is equally stupid to leave a dog, again any dog, tied to a post in a public place more for the dogs safety than anything else. Let's hope that yet another scarifice to stupidity doesn't have to be made. At my age I can remember when dogs were enjoyed and it was great to have the family dog to go to the park let the dog have a run around with the kids, now it's all poop patrols, dangerous dogs and on the spot fines. God help us is all I can say.

The point I was trying to make was if an adult has been injured to that extent after stroking the dog, then the result would have been more horrific if it had been a child, and by child I mean anyone under 16yrs, by the way as for it happening at 9-30pm, what are you trying to say, "That it only bites after the watershed", and thank you freemantlegirl2, your comments reasure me that not everyone has lost the plot.

Everybody understands your point, flower, it's just flawed and we can all see it. Yes if the dog had bitten a child, the result might have been nastier. But it wasn't. That's your basic appeal to emotion fallacy, right there. Saying "it might have been a child" doesn't make this incident any worse. If you were to, oh let's say, reverse your car into a concrete post, would it be ok for me to point and be aghast and say "what if that had been a child!"? "Think of the children!" is a classic politicians trick. If you use it, you support terrorism. You don't hate Great Britain, do you? captcha(and I'm not making this up): baby-case

Seems to me that while this is a site for anybody to make a comment, you will always get the patronising comments. How did it get from my saying that the injuries could have been much worse if it had been a child, to you saying I support terrorism. I find this comment extremlly upsetting as my dad was killed in an IRA attack when I was only 17yrs old, he died sadly leaving my mum with 4 young children and he was only 37yrs old. And yes he loved Great Britain, he fought for it. Have you? I would like to thank you for totally ruining my day...

I happen to find your "what if it was a child?" comments to be a rather patronising and misleading form of rhetoric. You are using subsersive, psychological "hot buttons" to make the story seem worse than it was. Even though there is nothing in the story about children, you have made a subtle link between "dog bites someone" and "child". Sneaky. I think it's inappropriate to manipulate other commenters and readers in that manner. As for the terrorism comment, that's pretty obviously me lampooning your own "think of the children!" comments. They're another, much more blatant, example of the same appeal to emotion. captcha: pull-knee

Georgem, i think the words you are looking for are 'While i disagree with you i'm sorry if my comments caused offence given the circumstances of your fathers death'.

This a little,local, newspaper forum not a High Court Hearing!
Have a litle compassion, eh?

stinkyboots wrote:

bemused26 wrote: I'm not getting into the debate about whether the dog should be put to sleep or not. I will say that the woman, although I do feel a teeny bit sorry for her, should not have touched a dog she didn't know under any circumstances. That was very daft. Also, I think the Echo needs to research things properly. Unless they have some kind of evidence they are not telling us, that this dog was specifically used for fighting, they have got it a bit wrong. Japanese Akitas are not 'fighting dogs' at all. In fact they have a very good reputation with kids even. (Not so much strangers, they freak them out) I think maybe they are confusing the Akita with the Japanese Tosa? That is a fighting dog and illegal in the UK. Just my 2 cents.

Here's your 2 cents back, I think you'll find it's you who needs to do their research a little better. Akita's are also called Japanese fighting dogs, comes from, funnily enough, when they were used for fighting when it was a popular sport. Bull Mastiffs, which a Tosa is partly, are known as good with kids, too good, meaning they get over protective. Though I have to say your lack of knowledge is hardly surprising, it's the environment you were raised I suppose.

Thirdly - I do fostering for many rescues and have had several Akitas and when I fostered my first one I was just so smitten as I read up that they are fighting dogs in Japan and but they are such gentle giants.

bemused26 wrote:
The 'fact' about Akitas being bred to fight bears is an old wives tale! No dog could take on a bloody bear! Even big ones like the Akitas. It is genuinely a myth. But I kind of like the fact that the author put in the 'fact file' bit. I agree with Trumpet222 though :)
Very funny.