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5:00pm Saturday 4th July 2009 in
BINMEN are set to be armed with computers to spy on the rubbish habits of Southampton residents.
They will use handheld devices to log the details of householders who leave out their bins on the wrong day, fail to recycle properly, or put out too much rubbish.
Repeat offenders will get a knock on the door from the council’s bin police who will point out what they are doing wrong.
If they still persist in breaking the rules they will be issued with a letter warning them they face a £100 fixed penalty fine under the Environmental Protection Act.
And as revealed by the Daily Echo traffic wardens will soon be handed the job of enforcing such enviro-crime.
They will be given the extra powers as they become part of an expanded 55-strong city patrol force dubbed stormtroopers.
Tory council leaders say the £179,000 computer system will make the waste service run better and save cash but critics fear it could also pave the way for new bin taxes.
Unions leaders have branded it a waste of money and want extra payments for drivers who will have to operate the handheld devices on the city’s 34 dustcarts.
Crews will have access to details of their round, traffic updates and information on each house, such as any special requirements and previous missed bins.
They will log incidents of damaged or contaminated bins and those not put out to defend complaints about missed collections.
Doretta Cocks from Chandler’s Ford, who founded the Campaign for Weekly Waste Collection, said: “I can think of no other reason to bring this in unless they intend to charge residents. The number of people who deliberately contaminate bins is quite small.
“It seems an awful lot of expense if they don’t plan to recoup it somewhere. If it’s not exactly Big Brother now it has the potential to be.”
John Early, a convenor with the council’s branch of the Unite union, said: “We’ve been ensured it’s purely a management tool. But it’s going to take the drivers time to get used to it. I think the residents will be more upset by it. I personally think it’s a waste of taxpayers’ money.”
The council claims the GPS-based “Waste Collector Live” system, manufactured by Bartec Systems and used by 16 other authorities, will deliver a “more efficient”
service and help it respond to issues more quickly.
They insist there will be no microchips put in bins and deny the system amounted to “spying on people”.
Head of waste Andrew Trayer said: “The vast majority of the population will be invisible to this system. This is not Big Brother.”
And while those who contaminate bins or leave them cluttering pavements would be targeted they would still get “plenty of chances” to change their ways.
Tory council leaders, who are facing a £9.6m budget hole next year and have already drawn up plans to save £1.5m and axe 31 jobs, reckon the Bartec system will save the council £50,000 a year.
The Government’s pay-as-you-throw plans were dealt a blow earlier this year when no council volunteered to take part in its trials. Local authorities would have been given powers to give rebates to those producing the least waste and slap fines of up to £50 on those who don’t recycle enough.
Comments(36)
Original Bulldog
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11:23am Sat 4 Jul 09
madson
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11:37am Sat 4 Jul 09
Tobeblunt
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11:45am Sat 4 Jul 09
madson wrote:So a load of people will end up with fines around christmas time then. I agree what a waste of time, even the council themselves cannot recycle properly and have no facility to recycle glass, so until then they need to shut up and sort themselves out first before thowing their pathetic weight around.
WHat a waste of time and money. So they are going to work on bank holiday then even the bin people over fill bins by emptying one bin to another so now the poor home owner will get fined for them being lazy. and are the bin people going to but the bins back at the correct house ?? How can the council afford this whem they have a sort full of money
Lone Ranger
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11:47am Sat 4 Jul 09
goard
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12:11pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Stubs
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12:14pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Saints Mike
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12:21pm Sat 4 Jul 09
TheRealDeal
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12:23pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Allotmentman66
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12:32pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Humpty_dumpty
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12:35pm Sat 4 Jul 09
TheRealDeal
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12:44pm Sat 4 Jul 09
southy
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12:52pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Condor Man wrote:no condor it comes from southampton council umm a tory run council.
A bit draconian, no doubt it will lead to an increase in fly tipping. A poorly thought through scheme- promoted of course by the government.
madness
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1:07pm Sat 4 Jul 09
itsmehere
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1:10pm Sat 4 Jul 09
OSPREYSAINT
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1:30pm Sat 4 Jul 09
TheRealDeal
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1:40pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Snowman
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2:07pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Grumpy San
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2:39pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Paramjit Bahia
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3:31pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Condor Man wrote:I think when you say "by the government" you actually mean the local government which is run by the real Conservative Party as opposed to the central government of de facto Tories.
A bit draconian, no doubt it will lead to an increase in fly tipping. A poorly thought through scheme- promoted of course by the government.
Nearly an OAP
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4:26pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Condor Man
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5:31pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Thatcher achieved that in the 90's when football grounds went all seater and benefits started to be paid directly into bank accounts.
Condor Man wrote: A bit draconian, no doubt it will lead to an increase in fly tipping. A poorly thought through scheme- promoted of course by the government.I think when you say "by the government" you actually mean the local government which is run by the real Conservative Party as opposed to the central government of de facto Tories. Do you think Thatcher's dream of police state is on the way?
southampton999
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5:38pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Nod
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5:40pm Sat 4 Jul 09
southy
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6:55pm Sat 4 Jul 09
TheRealDeal wrote:yes realdeal there is a sort off jedi knight's out there, come the next general and local election vote them in, they be going under the banner of the socialist party.
anybody know where i can hire a jedi knight to lead the resistance?
Saintlygirl
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7:13pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Aimee1992
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9:01pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Vconfused
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9:37pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Polygonia
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9:47pm Sat 4 Jul 09
MrGMan
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10:26pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Bemused reader
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11:00pm Sat 4 Jul 09
Bartonian
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11:43pm Sat 4 Jul 09
KA
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7:54am Sun 5 Jul 09
Aimee1992 wrote:Lol :D
It's disgusting! The other week when I was walking to college I watched the binmen place recycling rubbish into the same waste van as the ordinary household waste. This is why there are two seperate days or vans to collect the rubbish. It makes me laugh, what's the point in having two bloody bins if there not being used correctly, it's a waste of our time we feel good at the end of the day thinking we have done our bit when they sefishly dismiss it. And now they're getting paid more for spying on our rubbish, who came up with that idea? Is it a joke or did they employ a child to think of that. Another uneeded way of spending the tax payers money. What if some random person walks past and uses our bins for their waste and puts the wrong objects in one, we'll get the finger pointed at, then they'll fine us and get more money from us! It's disgusting. Southampton City Council have nothing better to do than think of idiotic plans like these, you have to be kidding. My nan was supposed to have her kitchen redone last July, all winter she had an unfinished kitchen costing her a bomb in heating etc and they have only just finished it this week, it is appauling. I say to them get your f****** finger out and do something which will be a benefit to everyone not just them. Money grabbing twurps.
Dusty
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9:19am Sun 5 Jul 09
goard
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12:09pm Sun 5 Jul 09
southy
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1:17pm Sun 5 Jul 09
goard wrote:also happen twice in the 80,s
Does anyone remember the huge mountains of household waste - left on verges before Thatcher got in? Now Labour have gone the other way - clear it all but charge the public a bomb - again they can't say because of the downturn because they have been dictating all this long before - its all a matter of leasing out as a business - and these greedy ruffians are milking us rotten, as with every other essential services.
goard
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Condor Man says...
11:13am Sat 4 Jul 09