It would be nice to tell Saints fans their club is safe, says Fry (From Daily Echo)
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Mark Fry wants to be able to give good news to Southampton fans
12:30pm Monday 6th July 2009 in News
Saints' Swiss bidders 'tick all the irhgt boxes' says Fry
SAINTS administrator Mark Fry last night admitted the Swiss consortium “tick all the right boxes” with regards to a takeover at St Mary’s.
Though there are “still a couple of issues outstanding”, Fry exclusively told the Daily Echo “they were nothing major”.
Fry also said there were two other bids “pushing exceptionally hard” if no deal with the Swiss could be completed.
The Liebherr Group – one of Switzerland’s largest industrial companies with a turnover of over £8 billion in 2008 – are reportedly behind the Swiss bid.
The company already have links with Southampton as only last month they provided two new cranes for the city’s container terminal in the docks.
Meanwhile, a worldwide financial services group believe THEY are close to a takeover deal.
As revealed in the Echo last week, they have enlisted the help of former Football League chairman Keith Harris to help with their negotiations.
Further talks were planned this morning between Fry and the group.
A third consortium fronted by controversial former York City chairman John Batchelor also remain in the picture, though the Echo understands they are a very distant third in a three-horse race.
Last night, talking about the Swiss, Fry said: “The lawyers have been working with the current (preferred) buyer over the weekend.”
“There are one or two final issues to be resolved.”
“I am hoping they could be what Saints need to take it back to where it should be and that’s why we are sticking so much to them.”
“This international buyer seems to tick all the right boxes and we are keen to do a deal with them.
“There are still a couple of issues outstanding but it's nothing major.
“It’s very frustrating because we all want this to come to an end.
“It’s just a case of getting people to dot the I’s and cross the t’s.
“They are very busy in the background sorting everything out so I remain very hopeful.
“We are quite along way along with the international group. They have done all the due diligence.
“I will be relieved when it is all done because when the club is sold we will have achieved what we set out to achieve.
“We are concerned at this time because the pre-season ticks along and everything needs to be put in place to make sure the club can go forward.
“The sooner we can get a deal done the better.
“We are relying on a lot of goodwill from the players and staff.
“It will be nice to give them some surety.
Comments(335)
Teak
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8:39am Mon 6 Jul 09
SwindonSaint
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8:39am Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben
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8:39am Mon 6 Jul 09
That would be very nice! Come on you Swiss, complete the deal asap!!!
COYR
gregsoton
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8:39am Mon 6 Jul 09
oldtimesaint
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8:41am Mon 6 Jul 09
Humbug
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8:41am Mon 6 Jul 09
Enrico Palazzo
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8:43am Mon 6 Jul 09
jc86
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8:45am Mon 6 Jul 09
Enrico Palazzo
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8:45am Mon 6 Jul 09
saintofatheism
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8:45am Mon 6 Jul 09
get in the swiss before some other crazy cat does, this will be amazing if this happens,
JimmyLondon
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8:46am Mon 6 Jul 09
sw - lead-into
St.Yorkie
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8:46am Mon 6 Jul 09
Still as long as Mr.Fry ticks all the boxes with this deasl we should all be very happy.
I am I've just bought that MX5 I promised myself...it didn't take me long to negotiate that deal...well not as long as Mr.Fry!
Bob's Your Uncle
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8:47am Mon 6 Jul 09
LET IT BE A SWISS ROLL!
( See peoples' opinions and give your views on anything and everything at Southampton World!
www.ohwhenthesaints.
net )
stoneham
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8:47am Mon 6 Jul 09
St.Yorkie
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8:48am Mon 6 Jul 09
St.Yorkie wrote:Some sloppy typing there by me too - where's the spell check when you need it?
Sloopy journalism and publishing! Still as long as Mr.Fry ticks all the boxes with this deasl we should all be very happy. I am I've just bought that MX5 I promised myself...it didn't take me long to negotiate that deal...well not as long as Mr.Fry!
mbr1488
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8:48am Mon 6 Jul 09
rs then may b us. COYR we will be richer than the skate pr*cks
mr tein
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8:48am Mon 6 Jul 09
al AG in Bulle, Switzerland, which is entirely owned by members of the Liebherr family. Current-generation family ownership is held by Willi and Isolde Liebherr, who are listed among the billionaires of 2005.
Beginning with the production of affordable tower cranes, Liebherr has expanded to aircraft parts and household appliances such as refrigerators. The company is a major supplier of aircraft parts to Airbus S.A.S. Liebherr also produces some of the largest mining and digging tools in the world, such as loaders, excavators and extreme-size dump trucks.
Over the years, the family business has grown into what is today a group of companies, employing a workforce of approximately 25,000 in more than 100 companies in several countries.
In December 2004, one German site put Liebherr's dumpers in first and sixth place as the world's biggest, while their largest excavator got fifth position.
Liebherr currently produces one of the world's largest mining trucks, the T 282 B. It also recently introduced the new nine-axle model LTM 11200-9.1 which received the prestigious award of Development of the Year (2007), for being the world's most powerful mobile crane, with a 100 metres (328 ft) telescopic boom.
Liebherr has locations in many countries, including Germany, Britain, Ireland, and the United States. The factory in Killarney, Ireland manufactures container cranes, which are exported worldwide through the local port of Fenit.
montecristosaint
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8:50am Mon 6 Jul 09
Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity.
Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have.
Idiot.
st ewe saint
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8:51am Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots
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8:52am Mon 6 Jul 09
saintofatheism
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8:52am Mon 6 Jul 09
Bashfan
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8:52am Mon 6 Jul 09
sholingred
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8:52am Mon 6 Jul 09
-dee.COYR
EricMartin'sHat
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8:53am Mon 6 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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8:56am Mon 6 Jul 09
It all good and finally we can get the fans together and support something special.
Get out to Totton and support the Mark Wotte and the team on Tuesday at 7.45pm.
Up The Saints
Sussex Saint
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8:56am Mon 6 Jul 09
Saint_John
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8:57am Mon 6 Jul 09
It is important that the fans return and too many of us have seen how CLUELESS Wotte is.
- His tactics are to just hoof the ball up field.
- There is NO preparation before games as to who is marking who at corners and setplays.
He was the cheap option last season and was found to be out of his depth as a Manager.
saintofatheism
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8:59am Mon 6 Jul 09
montecristosaint wrote:look at the upside, at least we didnt sign M owen
I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.
nlightn
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9:01am Mon 6 Jul 09
montecristosaint
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9:02am Mon 6 Jul 09
stoneham wrote:typical -so its not the liebherr group after all just a relative going for a punt and name dropping along the way to aid his bid.
as reported on radio solent at 8.20 not owner of liebher but grandchild of owner in talks
As for the Echo I have run out of patience. Why cant they get their stories straight. Where is the quote from the Liebherr group confirming their bid (normal practice in journalism fgs) and what are the "issues" the administrator is referring to?
Linesman
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9:06am Mon 6 Jul 09
greystonesben wrote:If they take over, SFC will be just a part of their interests and the all of their profits will not be poured into football - the other business interests will have to be maintained.
Turnover's vanity, profit is sanity, but £8b turnover a year is nothing to be smirked at. I read over the weekend that this would make us the 4th richest club in English football. That would be very nice! Come on you Swiss, complete the deal asap!!! COYR
It would be another asset on the firm's portfolio.
saintjack
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9:07am Mon 6 Jul 09
jandat44
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9:07am Mon 6 Jul 09
steveeew wrote:???????
Bring on the ABBA
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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9:08am Mon 6 Jul 09
St.Yorkie wrote:Congrats on the new car.. you'll be able to pick up a couple of fellow fans and get them down to Totton Tuesday Night;p
Sloopy journalism and publishing!
Still as long as Mr.Fry ticks all the boxes with this deasl we should all be very happy.
I am I've just bought that MX5 I promised myself...it didn't take me long to negotiate that deal...well not as long as Mr.Fry!
Hope the car didn;t have lots of debts to sign off on before you sort the ownership. lol.
The dream is coming.. soon have the Ferraris and Lambos back in the car park.
Up the Saints!!!!!
Yeah....
Northern Saint
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9:08am Mon 6 Jul 09
montecristosaint wrote:Remind us of your qualifications on this or is it just reading Daily Echo?!
I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.
saintofatheism
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9:09am Mon 6 Jul 09
Linesman wrote:no in the top five, richest clubs- oh yer
greystonesben wrote: Turnover's vanity, profit is sanity, but £8b turnover a year is nothing to be smirked at. I read over the weekend that this would make us the 4th richest club in English football. That would be very nice! Come on you Swiss, complete the deal asap!!! COYRIf they take over, SFC will be just a part of their interests and the all of their profits will not be poured into football - the other business interests will have to be maintained. It would be another asset on the firm's portfolio.
brennothornhill
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9:11am Mon 6 Jul 09
saintofatheism wrote:post of the day goes to..... saintofatheism
montecristosaint wrote: I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.look at the upside, at least we didnt sign M owen
SaintPaul
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9:14am Mon 6 Jul 09
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-1197540/Sw
iss-billionaires-rol
l-save-League-One-So
uthampton.html
Bashfan
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9:15am Mon 6 Jul 09
Northern Saint wrote:Have to agree with Northern Saint (I am qualified). The exclusivity period could have done immense damage to the club and I doubt it did the creditors much good either.
montecristosaint wrote: I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.Remind us of your qualifications on this or is it just reading Daily Echo?!
Rudd Gillett
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9:15am Mon 6 Jul 09
Bashfan
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9:17am Mon 6 Jul 09
Bashfan wrote:Should have said montecristosaint.
Northern Saint wrote:Have to agree with Northern Saint (I am qualified). The exclusivity period could have done immense damage to the club and I doubt it did the creditors much good either.montecristosaint wrote: I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.Remind us of your qualifications on this or is it just reading Daily Echo?!
threetimes
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9:17am Mon 6 Jul 09
The Liebherr Group - anagram of: The Horrible Purge (Lets hope not!)
dannyfloyd
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9:18am Mon 6 Jul 09
steveeew wrote:please will saints fan stop getting the swiss and the swedes mixed up. yes they both start with S but thats where it ends... if they were american would we say bring on MEN AT WORK because Australia starts with A? its not like i'm saying "whats the square root of Pi multiplied by the amount of idiots on this board"!!!
Bring on the ABBA
Barcelona Saint
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9:18am Mon 6 Jul 09
Let's NOT get our hopes up. This is not a done deal. Seeing is believeing.
brennothornhill
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9:20am Mon 6 Jul 09
jandat44 wrote:isnt abba from sweden?
steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBA???????
season ticket holder
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9:20am Mon 6 Jul 09
COYR
Berkshire Saint
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9:21am Mon 6 Jul 09
Vive le Swiss or whatever the German equivalent is.
dannyfloyd
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9:22am Mon 6 Jul 09
mbr1488 wrote:the things is, if they are taken over by the arabs then you will have no idea of the riches behind it. you'll never see an arab on the rich list because the money is officially owned by their country, however, trust me when i say that their wealth is in the trillions. anyway, as i'm sure your mrs will tell you, its not the size that counts but what you do with it... lol
in the daily mail yesterday saints will b the 5th richest club in english football it goes man city,chelsea,qpr,spu rs then may b us. COYR we will be richer than the skate pr*cks
brennothornhill
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9:23am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyfloyd wrote:9.254134 by my calculation
steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAplease will saints fan stop getting the swiss and the swedes mixed up. yes they both start with S but thats where it ends... if they were american would we say bring on MEN AT WORK because Australia starts with A? its not like i'm saying "whats the square root of Pi multiplied by the amount of idiots on this board"!!!
saintofatheism
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9:24am Mon 6 Jul 09
could this really drag out any longer
Bitterne Park Tim
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9:24am Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:Really... you seem to come up with a lot of predictions...
the swiss will complete by wednesday at the latest
Not too many have come true as yet...!
SW Club-none!
born1990
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9:25am Mon 6 Jul 09
aliscan66
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9:26am Mon 6 Jul 09
Measaint
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9:26am Mon 6 Jul 09
steveeew wrote:ABBA are from Sweden, not Switzerland.
Bring on the ABBA
But either way aint it great to have some good news
RobSaint
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9:27am Mon 6 Jul 09
steveeew wrote:Once again, ABBA is Swedish, not Swiss.
Bring on the ABBA
A bright future dawns. Having had business relationships with the Swiss over the past years with work my experince is we can expect financial stability. But don't expect the Swiss to spend silly amounts on transfers. The Swiss like not risk to much but think long term.
I think its more important that the club is saved and finacially stable than that we play in the Prem soon.
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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9:28am Mon 6 Jul 09
montecristosaint wrote:Sorry but this kind of stirring ended last week. This week the threads should be full of support for the new regime from Wotte and his team to his moment as he meets the new owners and gets the lads out to Totton and then on to Bournemouth. You need to vent that hot air at the grounds cheering the team on as we climb the league back to the prem.
I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over.
Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity.
Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have.
Idiot.
It was not Mark Fry. PG put the half mil on the table and got exc. Then led us all on a dance. Fry pulled the pin the second they failed to front with the money on the last day of their exc period. That is a fact you have to except and move on.
Say what you will but when Keith Harris deals, he gets it done and doesn't take prisoners.
Mark Wotte was on Solent Radio just a while ago saying he was waiting to meet the new owners to talk budgets. The staff (according to threads) were told to be in this morning.
Its so close you feel the electricity in the air. Now it really is time to get behind the team and show The Liebherr's they are doing something that is very much appreciated and supported in the great town of Southampton.
I wish I could get over.. and will asap. Meanwhile yell loud enough for this big mouthed kiwi git who grew up down Graham Road.
Up the Saints
PS don't Forget "St Yorkie" (per above) is car pooling to Totton
Unite!!!!
kinkyboots
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9:29am Mon 6 Jul 09
Bitterne Park Tim wrote:ive always said the swiss will buy saints .i stated that pinnacle would not complete...i said the swiss will complete in 10 days ...that was 8 days ago
kinkyboots wrote: the swiss will complete by wednesday at the latestReally... you seem to come up with a lot of predictions... Not too many have come true as yet...! SW Club-none!
Bitterne Park Tim
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9:29am Mon 6 Jul 09
See: http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/ABBA
chapellady
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9:30am Mon 6 Jul 09
brennothornhill
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9:30am Mon 6 Jul 09
RobSaint wrote:totally agree, I would take 50 years of stability than 5 years of success then back to this again
steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAOnce again, ABBA is Swedish, not Swiss. A bright future dawns. Having had business relationships with the Swiss over the past years with work my experince is we can expect financial stability. But don't expect the Swiss to spend silly amounts on transfers. The Swiss like not risk to much but think long term. I think its more important that the club is saved and finacially stable than that we play in the Prem soon.
kinkyboots
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9:32am Mon 6 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:my hubbys nan lived in graham road
montecristosaint wrote: I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.Sorry but this kind of stirring ended last week. This week the threads should be full of support for the new regime from Wotte and his team to his moment as he meets the new owners and gets the lads out to Totton and then on to Bournemouth. You need to vent that hot air at the grounds cheering the team on as we climb the league back to the prem. It was not Mark Fry. PG put the half mil on the table and got exc. Then led us all on a dance. Fry pulled the pin the second they failed to front with the money on the last day of their exc period. That is a fact you have to except and move on. Say what you will but when Keith Harris deals, he gets it done and doesn't take prisoners. Mark Wotte was on Solent Radio just a while ago saying he was waiting to meet the new owners to talk budgets. The staff (according to threads) were told to be in this morning. Its so close you feel the electricity in the air. Now it really is time to get behind the team and show The Liebherr's they are doing something that is very much appreciated and supported in the great town of Southampton. I wish I could get over.. and will asap. Meanwhile yell loud enough for this big mouthed kiwi git who grew up down Graham Road. Up the Saints PS don't Forget "St Yorkie" (per above) is car pooling to Totton Unite!!!!
Bitterne Park Tim
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9:33am Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:So you have a crystal ball and a Pointy Black hat?
Bitterne Park Tim wrote:ive always said the swiss will buy saints .i stated that pinnacle would not complete...i said the swiss will complete in 10 days ...that was 8 days agokinkyboots wrote: the swiss will complete by wednesday at the latestReally... you seem to come up with a lot of predictions... Not too many have come true as yet...! SW Club-none!
season ticket holder
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9:33am Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul wrote:Where do you think the Echo got their exclusive from
Just typed in 'Southampton'into the sports section of Daily Mail online and this came up, it makes good reading, shame they reported it 2 days before the Daily Echo! http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-1197540/Sw iss-billionaires-rol l-save-League-One-So uthampton.html
kinkyboots
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9:35am Mon 6 Jul 09
st.athan saint
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9:36am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyfloyd wrote:IF the swiss are being consulted on what's going on - MW.s contract etc, it doesn't look like cash will be splashed - tessem,murty and an uknown african on trial !!!! oh well we can but hope.
mbr1488 wrote: in the daily mail yesterday saints will b the 5th richest club in english football it goes man city,chelsea,qpr,spu rs then may b us. COYR we will be richer than the skate pr*cksthe things is, if they are taken over by the arabs then you will have no idea of the riches behind it. you'll never see an arab on the rich list because the money is officially owned by their country, however, trust me when i say that their wealth is in the trillions. anyway, as i'm sure your mrs will tell you, its not the size that counts but what you do with it... lol
mr tein
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9:37am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyfloyd wrote:Sorry, is it sweden or swindon?
steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAplease will saints fan stop getting the swiss and the swedes mixed up. yes they both start with S but thats where it ends... if they were american would we say bring on MEN AT WORK because Australia starts with A? its not like i'm saying "whats the square root of Pi multiplied by the amount of idiots on this board"!!!
Patrick80's
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9:41am Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:Your Mark Frys bit on the side !
Bitterne Park Tim wrote:ive always said the swiss will buy saints .i stated that pinnacle would not complete...i said the swiss will complete in 10 days ...that was 8 days agokinkyboots wrote: the swiss will complete by wednesday at the latestReally... you seem to come up with a lot of predictions... Not too many have come true as yet...! SW Club-none!
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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9:45am Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:Nan was 114 with Great gran at 116... Lol be a laff but I do have lots of rellys there... hmm If you were my aunty or one of my cousies you'd know me for sure at least from my last trip in 2001. haha.
Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:my hubbys nan lived in graham road
montecristosaint wrote: I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.Sorry but this kind of stirring ended last week. This week the threads should be full of support for the new regime from Wotte and his team to his moment as he meets the new owners and gets the lads out to Totton and then on to Bournemouth. You need to vent that hot air at the grounds cheering the team on as we climb the league back to the prem. It was not Mark Fry. PG put the half mil on the table and got exc. Then led us all on a dance. Fry pulled the pin the second they failed to front with the money on the last day of their exc period. That is a fact you have to except and move on. Say what you will but when Keith Harris deals, he gets it done and doesn't take prisoners. Mark Wotte was on Solent Radio just a while ago saying he was waiting to meet the new owners to talk budgets. The staff (according to threads) were told to be in this morning. Its so close you feel the electricity in the air. Now it really is time to get behind the team and show The Liebherr's they are doing something that is very much appreciated and supported in the great town of Southampton. I wish I could get over.. and will asap. Meanwhile yell loud enough for this big mouthed kiwi git who grew up down Graham Road. Up the Saints PS don't Forget "St Yorkie" (per above) is car pooling to Totton Unite!!!!
kinkyboots
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9:46am Mon 6 Jul 09
Barcelona Saint
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9:50am Mon 6 Jul 09
mr tein wrote:If this goes through, everyone will be singin: "Money Money Money" ;)
dannyfloyd wrote:Sorry, is it sweden or swindon?steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAplease will saints fan stop getting the swiss and the swedes mixed up. yes they both start with S but thats where it ends... if they were american would we say bring on MEN AT WORK because Australia starts with A? its not like i'm saying "whats the square root of Pi multiplied by the amount of idiots on this board"!!!
Jason D
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9:50am Mon 6 Jul 09
Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't generally happy ones – splashing the cash generally means they see the club as a plaything rather than a serious business.
That's not to say this isn't fantastic for Saints if it goes through - it most definitely would be.
But I think anyone expecting crazy spending needs to reign themselves in right now.
Having financial stability and the funds on hand if necessary would be fantastic though.
benkirk78
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9:52am Mon 6 Jul 09
RobSaint wrote:RobSaint, I love the way you can quantify how 'the Swiss' operate due to your previous dealings.
steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAOnce again, ABBA is Swedish, not Swiss. A bright future dawns. Having had business relationships with the Swiss over the past years with work my experince is we can expect financial stability. But don't expect the Swiss to spend silly amounts on transfers. The Swiss like not risk to much but think long term. I think its more important that the club is saved and finacially stable than that we play in the Prem soon.
There are 7.5 million people in Switzerland and i'd hazzard a guess that not all 'the Swiss' dont like risks and refuse to spend money on transfers. Its like saying 'the Brits', they all wear string vests and live on fish, chips and gravy.
Anyway: Lets all hope our club is saved and we can enjoy some good news after years of disaster.
Northern Saint
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9:52am Mon 6 Jul 09
Bashfan wrote:You've missed the point which is what do we actually know about the circumstances surrounding this other than Daily Echo, occassional statements from either side and the odd interview on Sky Sports.
Bashfan wrote:Should have said montecristosaint.Northern Saint wrote:Have to agree with Northern Saint (I am qualified). The exclusivity period could have done immense damage to the club and I doubt it did the creditors much good either.montecristosaint wrote: I'll believe it when I see it there are always "issues" where saints are concerned and they usually mean the club doesnt get taken over. Wake up fry smell the coffee earn your money and stop wasting everybody's time. You screwed up big time where Pinnacle were concerned and are probably the laughing stock of your industry for giving them exclusivity. Ive no confidence in you as a result and I doubt that any but the most naive will have. Idiot.Remind us of your qualifications on this or is it just reading Daily Echo?!
I'm qualifed too and deal in business disposals and know that the truth is usually dealt with behind closed doors so to make negative comments like that is just pure ignorance.
I seem to remember that Pinnacle where the only interested party at the time so do we really know what options Fry had when the wages weren't paid?!? Were the creditors looking for any option of some cash, etc.
SiaS
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9:56am Mon 6 Jul 09
The waiting is dreadful for all Saints. However, that will soon be pushed aside IF a postive result arrives. Heres praying but not assuming anything.
I suspect we don't know enough of the facts (indeed what do we really know at all) to criticise Mark Fry at this stage and it may well transpire that he has done a terrific job in the circumstances. If it all goes wrong we should be wary not to aim for him before we find out what has really been going on. But one can understand the natural response to find someone to blame given the years of bad news we have been enduring.
shaunparsons
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9:57am Mon 6 Jul 09
as in federer and chocolate !! or better known as the sweet smell of success.
Shaun from Basset
normsted
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9:58am Mon 6 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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10:01am Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D wrote:Absolutely. This isn't like Keith Harris's client at Chelsea or Man City with rich private investors The Liebherr Group is a long establish business who really can offer us a path to stability and a fast track to the prem where they are more likely to get a return on their money.
Great news I hope. One word of warning for people thinking billionaire owner = silly spending: rich people are usually rich for a reason, they don't throw their money around.
Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't generally happy ones – splashing the cash generally means they see the club as a plaything rather than a serious business.
That's not to say this isn't fantastic for Saints if it goes through - it most definitely would be.
But I think anyone expecting crazy spending needs to reign themselves in right now.
Having financial stability and the funds on hand if necessary would be fantastic though.
It is good that they are not given to company break up or on selling. They usually invest long term, invest large sums in development and usually do well. They wouldn't be using Harris as a broker if they weren't out to make the deal stick.
I'm nicely excited, have feet on the ground and have a drink ready for the big news.. any time now would be great
bekki0405
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10:02am Mon 6 Jul 09
diver-1975
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10:06am Mon 6 Jul 09
RobSaint
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10:07am Mon 6 Jul 09
benkirk78 wrote:I am speaking in general that this has been my experience over the last 10 years.
RobSaint wrote:RobSaint, I love the way you can quantify how 'the Swiss' operate due to your previous dealings. There are 7.5 million people in Switzerland and i'd hazzard a guess that not all 'the Swiss' dont like risks and refuse to spend money on transfers. Its like saying 'the Brits', they all wear string vests and live on fish, chips and gravy. Anyway: Lets all hope our club is saved and we can enjoy some good news after years of disaster.steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAOnce again, ABBA is Swedish, not Swiss. A bright future dawns. Having had business relationships with the Swiss over the past years with work my experince is we can expect financial stability. But don't expect the Swiss to spend silly amounts on transfers. The Swiss like not risk to much but think long term. I think its more important that the club is saved and finacially stable than that we play in the Prem soon.
The Swiss didn't get where are today by taking unneccesasy risks.
Maybe the word "neutral" descirbes the Swiss better. lol.
bumblysaint
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10:07am Mon 6 Jul 09
with it,get contracts
signed and sealed.
Scared of something
going wrong even now.
Surely it's gotta
happen so fed up with
all this ****
about.
stmarysmush
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10:07am Mon 6 Jul 09
nlightn
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10:11am Mon 6 Jul 09
mbr1488 wrote:I have a lot of friends in Portsmouth and they are ALL wishing us well, mbr1488 leave your 80`s mis-conceptions at home and lets get our club back up where it belongs in and we can do our talking on the field against Pompey and have a great time of it without the idiot saints fans who hate Pompey and they don`t actually know why.
in the daily mail yesterday saints will b the 5th richest club in english football it goes man city,chelsea,qpr,spu rs then may b us. COYR we will be richer than the skate pr*cks
nbsaint79
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10:11am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyfloyd wrote:This bid is excellent news. No wonder Killer wants to hang round with his countrymen taking over. Grilled herrings being served by blue eyed blondes at the burger bar! Cant wait!
steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAplease will saints fan stop getting the swiss and the swedes mixed up. yes they both start with S but thats where it ends... if they were american would we say bring on MEN AT WORK because Australia starts with A? its not like i'm saying "whats the square root of Pi multiplied by the amount of idiots on this board"!!!
ssherbie28
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10:13am Mon 6 Jul 09
supersaints
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10:14am Mon 6 Jul 09
nlightn wrote:and there are alot of idiot pompey fans that hate southampton and dont know why
mbr1488 wrote:I have a lot of friends in Portsmouth and they are ALL wishing us well, mbr1488 leave your 80`s mis-conceptions at home and lets get our club back up where it belongs in and we can do our talking on the field against Pompey and have a great time of it without the idiot saints fans who hate Pompey and they don`t actually know why.
in the daily mail yesterday saints will b the 5th richest club in english football it goes man city,chelsea,qpr,spu rs then may b us. COYR we will be richer than the skate pr*cks
supersaints
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10:15am Mon 6 Jul 09
Stafford Saint
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10:17am Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D wrote:I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think any club deserve to be a plaything and get financed to success. We are no exception.
Great news I hope. One word of warning for people thinking billionaire owner = silly spending: rich people are usually rich for a reason, they don't throw their money around. Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't generally happy ones – splashing the cash generally means they see the club as a plaything rather than a serious business. That's not to say this isn't fantastic for Saints if it goes through - it most definitely would be. But I think anyone expecting crazy spending needs to reign themselves in right now. Having financial stability and the funds on hand if necessary would be fantastic though.
I would imagine that they see it as a reasonable deal: admin has depressed the price, academy could still produce players, reasonable squad still (though had the deal been done earlier!). Then sell us on after we have been promoted once or twice. That is fine
We need to learn a bit of humility and take on more responsibility for the club.
saint pugwash
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10:19am Mon 6 Jul 09
brennothornhill
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10:24am Mon 6 Jul 09
batterb
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10:26am Mon 6 Jul 09
Huffybear
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10:27am Mon 6 Jul 09
Derbyshire Saint
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10:40am Mon 6 Jul 09
COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AndyinBitterne
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10:42am Mon 6 Jul 09
nbsaint79 wrote:We should try to get this right.
dannyfloyd wrote:This bid is excellent news. No wonder Killer wants to hang round with his countrymen taking over. Grilled herrings being served by blue eyed blondes at the burger bar! Cant wait!steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAplease will saints fan stop getting the swiss and the swedes mixed up. yes they both start with S but thats where it ends... if they were american would we say bring on MEN AT WORK because Australia starts with A? its not like i'm saying "whats the square root of Pi multiplied by the amount of idiots on this board"!!!
It is most likely that individuals are involved and not any company.
In which case the Liebherr family is GERMAN.
Measaint
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10:42am Mon 6 Jul 09
Sorry Robsaint, could not resist it
Alicesdad
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10:43am Mon 6 Jul 09
Stafford Saint wrote:There's more sense in these two posts than anything seen in the last few weeks.
Jason D wrote: Great news I hope. One word of warning for people thinking billionaire owner = silly spending: rich people are usually rich for a reason, they don't throw their money around. Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't generally happy ones – splashing the cash generally means they see the club as a plaything rather than a serious business. That's not to say this isn't fantastic for Saints if it goes through - it most definitely would be. But I think anyone expecting crazy spending needs to reign themselves in right now. Having financial stability and the funds on hand if necessary would be fantastic though.I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think any club deserve to be a plaything and get financed to success. We are no exception. I would imagine that they see it as a reasonable deal: admin has depressed the price, academy could still produce players, reasonable squad still (though had the deal been done earlier!). Then sell us on after we have been promoted once or twice. That is fine We need to learn a bit of humility and take on more responsibility for the club.
We don't need messiahs, big name managers, or ex-player front men on the board. We need good management, a good board and a steady return to becoming a well run club.
dannyep
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10:44am Mon 6 Jul 09
Berkshire Saint wrote:Be sure not to make the mistake of taking on Swedish nationality. That could be extremely embarrassing. Not to mention the fact that Orville is notoriusly sensitive and easily offended
I for one will change my nationality if this goes through and I was rooting for Roger at Wimbledon yesterday. Vive le Swiss or whatever the German equivalent is.
Jesus_02
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10:47am Mon 6 Jul 09
That said if they just cleared the debts and every saints fans turned up on a regular basis then we would generate enough cash to fund some great players.
SaintPaul
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10:50am Mon 6 Jul 09
northamsoul
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11:05am Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul wrote:Very true,...does anyone actually know when this is likely to happen? iam fed up to the back teeth of all this?
Take a look at Bernie and QPR how has all his wealth helped them?
SiaS
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11:07am Mon 6 Jul 09
Even if we have SOME money we will start 10 points behind at least and will need some continuity in the playing staff of a higher quality to get going before new faces can come in - EVEN IF this deal goes ahead and gives us some pportunities to buy and pay players.
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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11:09am Mon 6 Jul 09
Alicesdad wrote:So how on earth do you make the Liebherr group into a that category? They are highly respectable sensible ivestors of a kind that will protect their investments long term.
Stafford Saint wrote:There's more sense in these two posts than anything seen in the last few weeks.
Jason D wrote: Great news I hope. One word of warning for people thinking billionaire owner = silly spending: rich people are usually rich for a reason, they don't throw their money around. Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't generally happy ones – splashing the cash generally means they see the club as a plaything rather than a serious business. That's not to say this isn't fantastic for Saints if it goes through - it most definitely would be. But I think anyone expecting crazy spending needs to reign themselves in right now. Having financial stability and the funds on hand if necessary would be fantastic though.I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think any club deserve to be a plaything and get financed to success. We are no exception. I would imagine that they see it as a reasonable deal: admin has depressed the price, academy could still produce players, reasonable squad still (though had the deal been done earlier!). Then sell us on after we have been promoted once or twice. That is fine We need to learn a bit of humility and take on more responsibility for the club.
We don't need messiahs, big name managers, or ex-player front men on the board. We need good management, a good board and a steady return to becoming a well run club.
This is a brilliant prospect for Saints if it goes ahead Saints will be secure and on the right path to a great future.
dannyep
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11:11am Mon 6 Jul 09
And no, I dont mind if they make a reasonable long term profit out of the club as long as we are back where we belong.
nbsaint79
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11:13am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:I bet Claus wishes he didnt hang up his boots now. Presume the Swedish connection is also why Tessem is making a comeback?
Berkshire Saint wrote: I for one will change my nationality if this goes through and I was rooting for Roger at Wimbledon yesterday. Vive le Swiss or whatever the German equivalent is.Be sure not to make the mistake of taking on Swedish nationality. That could be extremely embarrassing. Not to mention the fact that Orville is notoriusly sensitive and easily offended
krazzik
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11:16am Mon 6 Jul 09
SW11_Saint
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11:17am Mon 6 Jul 09
COYR's!
seany1966
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11:22am Mon 6 Jul 09
COYR
St Retford
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11:25am Mon 6 Jul 09
There's an honesty and integrity about that which would make it a better owner than some 'financial services' company and it's certainly better than being owned by a Russian gangster or an arms dealer or someone from the Middle East with a questionable human rights record. It would basically make us morally superior to the Skates.
And I agree that they probably wouldn't splash out tens of millions on players instantly, but then if you're a League 1 club there's a limit to how much you can spend anyway as the top players just won't come to this division.
Anyway, fingers crossed it all happens, and soon.
dannyep
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11:26am Mon 6 Jul 09
seany1966 wrote:Up untill a couple of days ago, I was wondering if we'll get a season with our season ticket
I wonder if we'll get a free Toblerone with our season ticket...??? COYR
nbsaint79
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11:27am Mon 6 Jul 09
seany1966 wrote:Ikea vouchers would be good too!
I wonder if we'll get a free Toblerone with our season ticket...??? COYR
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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11:27am Mon 6 Jul 09
Nothing wrong with anything the Swiss did.
Batchelor is telling The York City Press that he is confident of doing the deal today!
I'm hoping that's bs. The comments from York Fans call for Yorks Fans and Mansfield fans to warn Saints through the echo threads to steer well clear of him.
I hope Mark Fry is aware of that and sticks with Keith Harris on behalf of Liebherr Group.
dannyfloyd
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11:31am Mon 6 Jul 09
nbsaint79 wrote:i hope that was a joke... i'm guessing it was. if not then please go back in the garden and tie yourself back to the tree and wait for dinner. now i know for sure that i don't want the fans to run the club.
dannyfloyd wrote:This bid is excellent news. No wonder Killer wants to hang round with his countrymen taking over. Grilled herrings being served by blue eyed blondes at the burger bar! Cant wait!steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAplease will saints fan stop getting the swiss and the swedes mixed up. yes they both start with S but thats where it ends... if they were american would we say bring on MEN AT WORK because Australia starts with A? its not like i'm saying "whats the square root of Pi multiplied by the amount of idiots on this board"!!!
sw. baby-roof
didn't he play baseball?
seany1966
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11:32am Mon 6 Jul 09
that goes for the ABBA quotes aswell !!!
saint pugwash
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11:34am Mon 6 Jul 09
nbsaint79 wrote:Once again. IKEA IS SWEDISH!!!!NOT SWISS!!!
seany1966 wrote: I wonder if we'll get a free Toblerone with our season ticket...??? COYRIkea vouchers would be good too!
SaintPaul
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11:39am Mon 6 Jul 09
Swiss Cheese
Swiss Army Knives
Cuckoo Clocks
Rolex watches
Roger Federer
Fondue
Chocolate
Oh, and if you want to comit suicide legally you can go to Zurich.
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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11:39am Mon 6 Jul 09
us/us-hg/en/118514_3
8002.asp
http://www.liebherr.
us/us-lh/en/80390.as
p
They really are very impressive... not a chocolate in sight but a nice wine fridge or a crane the size of SMS... no problem.
brennothornhill
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11:40am Mon 6 Jul 09
avidsaint
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11:41am Mon 6 Jul 09
saintclyde
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11:43am Mon 6 Jul 09
But lets not get all over-excited about our new 'billionaire' owners!!!! Have we not heard this all before? PG were supposebly millionaires, everyone just gets a little too excited! And even if they are, they are not really going to squander needless millions on our club for no return! Look at QPR, they are huge fianicially and they hardly spend a penny, as they have a five year plan. Don't get me wrong, I am just happy anyone is going to buy us so that we can just continuing supporting the club we all love, but all this expectation is way over top! They will buy us, but why would they invest really really heavily!
COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dannyep
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11:45am Mon 6 Jul 09
Genuine sw; into-beat
EAGLESAINT
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11:52am Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots
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11:53am Mon 6 Jul 09
krazzik wrote:tessem is norwegian and the bid is swiss...i think a few people on here need to get back to school
so why go with pinnacle if swiss were around from start seems mf has been duped along with a lot of others had the swiss had due dilegence maybe we would not be on here now complaining and **** but comenting on the latest great signing by the club
St Retford
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11:54am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Lee 'Scratch' Perry lives in Switzerland, so there's a bit going on there. That said, I don't think dub necessarily translates that well to the football chant 'genre'.
I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beat
O, and we also owe the Swiss a huge debt of gratitude for taking Phil Collins off our hands.
andoversaint
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11:54am Mon 6 Jul 09
Sussex Saint wrote:Great post Sussex Saint. Like it.
Of course, if it does go ahead with the Swiss, it doesn't make make us the 4th richest club in Britain, because as we all know the holding company and the football club aren't linked at all....
kinkyboots
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11:55am Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:well i just made myself look a right thicko
krazzik wrote: so why go with pinnacle if swiss were around from start seems mf has been duped along with a lot of others had the swiss had due dilegence maybe we would not be on here now complaining and **** but comenting on the latest great signing by the clubtessem is norwegian and the bid is swiss...i think a few people on here need to get back to school
RupertLoweIsGod
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11:56am Mon 6 Jul 09
I saw him in Panto (chichester think it was) and i'd really have believed Orville was real, and he blew Lionel Blair out of the water.
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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11:58am Mon 6 Jul 09
saintclyde wrote:It's not the thought of a fortune being spent. It;s the thought of being stable and financial secure with enough to invest and put Saints of on the track back to the Prem.
To be honest, I like everyone here would just like to see the deal get done!!!
But lets not get all over-excited about our new 'billionaire' owners!!!! Have we not heard this all before? PG were supposebly millionaires, everyone just gets a little too excited! And even if they are, they are not really going to squander needless millions on our club for no return! Look at QPR, they are huge fianicially and they hardly spend a penny, as they have a five year plan. Don't get me wrong, I am just happy anyone is going to buy us so that we can just continuing supporting the club we all love, but all this expectation is way over top! They will buy us, but why would they invest really really heavily!
COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Liebherr Group is huge but they are sensible long term investors. If they want a return it will come through getting the club up to the prem , filling the stadium and getting great tv and sponsorship deals. That does cost and they can afford it.
The feet have to stay on the ground for the moment.
Meanwhile it would be fantastic if we can get together and get to Totton and support Mark Wotte and the team.. Tuesday 7.45pm
Up The Saints
RupertLoweIsGod
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11:59am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Swiss music famous for not being famous?
I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music.
Genuine sw; into-beat
What about Yngwie Malmsteen or Ace of Base? Or Europe of Final Countdown fame? Or the singing chef from the muppets?
SaintPaul
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11:59am Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Of course Swiss music is famous, do you remember chart topper 'The Race' by Yello?
I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beat
kinkyboots
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11:59am Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul
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12:01pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul wrote:Oh and don't forget Andreas Vollenweider who sold 10 million albums!
dannyep wrote: I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beatOf course Swiss music is famous, do you remember chart topper 'The Race' by Yello?
German Tony
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12:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09
It doesn't wash, unless laudering something is this bid's real objective.
I reckon it's a figment of Fry's imagination designed to entice more cash from the only serious bid he's recieved so far, the 1 from the asset stripping organisation up north.
Pimple's fannying about was tolerated for the same reason, to get the price up.
Next up is that the fans will go nuts about the asset stripping deal paving the way for Lowe top cruise back in as the saviour of the club & having stiffed his creditors into the bargin - & yes I do think he had that planned all along.
German Tony
dannyep
says...
12:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09
RupertLoweIsGod wrote:Oh no he did'nt
I have every faith in Keith Harris to see this through. He's a very persuasive man. I saw him in Panto (chichester think it was) and i'd really have believed Orville was real, and he blew Lionel Blair out of the water.
dannyep
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12:07pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul wrote:I take it all back. I feel a fool.
SaintPaul wrote:Oh and don't forget Andreas Vollenweider who sold 10 million albums!dannyep wrote: I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beatOf course Swiss music is famous, do you remember chart topper 'The Race' by Yello?
kinkyboots
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12:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:oh yes he did
RupertLoweIsGod wrote: I have every faith in Keith Harris to see this through. He's a very persuasive man. I saw him in Panto (chichester think it was) and i'd really have believed Orville was real, and he blew Lionel Blair out of the water.Oh no he did'nt
Tirau Dan (NZL)
says...
12:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul wrote:Can you yodel Oh When The Saints?.. anyone got an alpine horn to take along to games... can always fill it with something nice and smoke it.
dannyep wrote:Of course Swiss music is famous, do you remember chart topper 'The Race' by Yello?
I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beat
It's getting late in NZ .. the celebratory brandy and lovage may have to wait a bit longer.
The Dreaming goes on.
truelysaints
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12:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
EAGLESAINT
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12:15pm Mon 6 Jul 09
threetimes
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12:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Count me in. I hope we sign Anders Svensson back too. He was a Swiss legend.
I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beat
Alicesdad
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12:17pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:You misunderstand. I agree, they are a brilliant prospect.
Alicesdad wrote:So how on earth do you make the Liebherr group into a that category? They are highly respectable sensible ivestors of a kind that will protect their investments long term. This is a brilliant prospect for Saints if it goes ahead Saints will be secure and on the right path to a great future.Stafford Saint wrote:There's more sense in these two posts than anything seen in the last few weeks. We don't need messiahs, big name managers, or ex-player front men on the board. We need good management, a good board and a steady return to becoming a well run club.Jason D wrote: Great news I hope. One word of warning for people thinking billionaire owner = silly spending: rich people are usually rich for a reason, they don't throw their money around. Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't generally happy ones – splashing the cash generally means they see the club as a plaything rather than a serious business. That's not to say this isn't fantastic for Saints if it goes through - it most definitely would be. But I think anyone expecting crazy spending needs to reign themselves in right now. Having financial stability and the funds on hand if necessary would be fantastic though.I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think any club deserve to be a plaything and get financed to success. We are no exception. I would imagine that they see it as a reasonable deal: admin has depressed the price, academy could still produce players, reasonable squad still (though had the deal been done earlier!). Then sell us on after we have been promoted once or twice. That is fine We need to learn a bit of humility and take on more responsibility for the club.
The first sentence in my last paragraph referred to all the other bidders trying to get a piece of the action.
So I think we are of one mind here ;-)
dannyep
says...
12:22pm Mon 6 Jul 09
threetimes wrote:Cant wait to have have a drink in the new corporate 'Benny and Bjorn suite.
dannyep wrote: I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beatCount me in. I hope we sign Anders Svensson back too. He was a Swiss legend.
dannyep
says...
12:24pm Mon 6 Jul 09
threetimes wrote:Cant wait to have have a drink in the new corporate 'Benny and Bjorn suite'.
dannyep wrote: I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beatCount me in. I hope we sign Anders Svensson back too. He was a Swiss legend.
SaintRachel
says...
12:27pm Mon 6 Jul 09
The identity of the potential owners being advised by investment banker Harris is unknown, but... the Swiss interest is backed by the Liebherr Group."
kinkyboots
says...
12:27pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:danny boy ithink your taking the p1ss now ......hee hee
threetimes wrote:Cant wait to have have a drink in the new corporate 'Benny and Bjorn suite'.dannyep wrote: I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music. Genuine sw; into-beatCount me in. I hope we sign Anders Svensson back too. He was a Swiss legend.
Measaint
says...
12:30pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul wrote:And we could soon be saying Football, But not in Switzerland nor Sweden like some think
So what good things have the Swiss brought us...?
Swiss Cheese
Swiss Army Knives
Cuckoo Clocks
Rolex watches
Roger Federer
Fondue
Chocolate
Oh, and if you want to comit suicide legally you can go to Zurich.
Tirau Dan (NZL)
says...
12:31pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Alicesdad wrote:Cool Cheers.. at least with two of us one mind is better the state of being driven out of our minds by the wait haha.
Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:You misunderstand. I agree, they are a brilliant prospect.
Alicesdad wrote:So how on earth do you make the Liebherr group into a that category? They are highly respectable sensible ivestors of a kind that will protect their investments long term. This is a brilliant prospect for Saints if it goes ahead Saints will be secure and on the right path to a great future.Stafford Saint wrote:There's more sense in these two posts than anything seen in the last few weeks. We don't need messiahs, big name managers, or ex-player front men on the board. We need good management, a good board and a steady return to becoming a well run club.Jason D wrote: Great news I hope. One word of warning for people thinking billionaire owner = silly spending: rich people are usually rich for a reason, they don't throw their money around. Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't generally happy ones – splashing the cash generally means they see the club as a plaything rather than a serious business. That's not to say this isn't fantastic for Saints if it goes through - it most definitely would be. But I think anyone expecting crazy spending needs to reign themselves in right now. Having financial stability and the funds on hand if necessary would be fantastic though.I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think any club deserve to be a plaything and get financed to success. We are no exception. I would imagine that they see it as a reasonable deal: admin has depressed the price, academy could still produce players, reasonable squad still (though had the deal been done earlier!). Then sell us on after we have been promoted once or twice. That is fine We need to learn a bit of humility and take on more responsibility for the club.
The first sentence in my last paragraph referred to all the other bidders trying to get a piece of the action.
So I think we are of one mind here ;-)
I really just Southampton to get behind the club bury the differences and support Mark Wotte and the Team.
Up the Saints
One Mind!
stoopid
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12:43pm Mon 6 Jul 09
steveeew wrote:Krokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus. Krokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus.
Bring on the ABBA
Saintan
says...
12:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09
James Reading wrote:gobern at the mo by the looks of things!
Just noticed our Left back has gone on trial, http://www.skysports
.com/story/0,19528,1
1719_5416248,00.html
Who plays left back now?
don't forget we've still got Jo "fish" mills
he had a very good season with scunthorpe (i think!) last year
He should be our regular left back
kinkyboots
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12:47pm Mon 6 Jul 09
stoopid wrote:sorry mate..the group your thinking of is focus fronted by jan ackermann and their dutch
steveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAKrokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus. Krokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus.
eastleigh-ian
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12:47pm Mon 6 Jul 09
nbsaint79
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12:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09
saint pugwash wrote:Thanks for clearing that up. I must stop getting those two confused. So if Swaziland isnt in Scandinavia, why would people in a small country between South Africa and Mozambique have any interest in buying Saints?
nbsaint79 wrote:Once again. IKEA IS SWEDISH!!!!NOT SWISS!!!seany1966 wrote: I wonder if we'll get a free Toblerone with our season ticket...??? COYRIkea vouchers would be good too!
batesieboy
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12:51pm Mon 6 Jul 09
saint tom
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12:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09
coyr were on the up.
richarddstarky
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12:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09
yorkie_scummer
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12:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Sussex Saint wrote:Quality!
Of course, if it does go ahead with the Swiss, it doesn't make make us the 4th richest club in Britain, because as we all know the holding company and the football club aren't linked at all....
saintofatheism
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12:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=kDKiQfBs9
lo
saintofatheism
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12:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=kDKiQfBs9
lo
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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12:58pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Mark Fry still saying The Swiss are in front and down to the last non major issues.
It still sounds fine as I get off to bed..
gute Nacht zu allen Heiligventilatoren
OvertonSaint
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1:07pm Mon 6 Jul 09
:)
saintofatheism
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1:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09
OvertonSaint wrote:i like!
Let's hope that the crane company can give Saints the 'lift' they deserve, 'hook' a few decent players and bring back the 'boom' times. :)
Whiteley supporter
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1:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul
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1:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Cork_Saint
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1:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintPaul
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1:17pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Cork_Saint wrote:More like Swiss Cheese, offer full of holes!
Just guessing the Echo's imminent headline - 'Swiss Bliss' or 'Swiss Miss' ....
On the subject of Cranes... SW 'Half-rise' hehe
Allotmentman66
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1:19pm Mon 6 Jul 09
So Mark get it DONE and quick.
Tell Pinnacle to take a run and jump.
( still like Swiss chocolate )
Hercules Grytpype-Thynne
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1:21pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Swindon has a lot going for it you know. Who knows they may even be able to give a trial to Don Rogers.
kinkyboots
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1:23pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Allotmentman66 wrote:agreed..so have i
I have always said from the very start the Swiss are the best bet, and I was right. So Mark get it DONE and quick. Tell Pinnacle to take a run and jump. ( still like Swiss chocolate )
steveeew
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1:24pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:The lads will run on to the pitch to the accompaniment of the old Abba hit Thank You for the Muesli
I am the only one warming to the idea of the whole of St Marys collectively pretending that ABBA is Swiss, After all Swiss music is famous for........not being famous. Thank you for the (unremarkable) music.
Genuine sw; into-beat
db_3
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1:28pm Mon 6 Jul 09
NB) The ABBA comments are references from posts in other threads over the last week and meant as a joke :)
S Pance
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1:29pm Mon 6 Jul 09
:)
St Retford
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1:32pm Mon 6 Jul 09
There must be someone in the family who, for some reason, is a Saints fan or perhaps came to Southampton to study.
yummy_mummy
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1:32pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Sickofitall
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1:32pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:You are both right.....Hocus Pocus was by Focus and not Krokus. But Krokus are a great, (the only???) Swiss band. Did a great cover of Ballroom Blitz......and I can't think of anything else that rhymes with 'ocus'!!
stoopid wrote:sorry mate..the group your thinking of is focus fronted by jan ackermann and their dutchsteveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAKrokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus. Krokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus.
James Reading
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1:34pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Can anyone tell me whether a deal has to be completed and signed at SMS or can it be else where?
truelysaints
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1:34pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D
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1:40pm Mon 6 Jul 09
It isn't clear when it is referring to the international bid or the Swiss bid, which I believed were two separate bids.
I think there has been too much hasty cutting and pasting and the result is a mishmash of two stories, neither of which now make sense.
According to the Mail, Keith Harris and Orville are connected to the Swiss bid, but according to this one, it's the international bid.
Fry says here that the "international bid" ticks all the boxes.
Is that the Swiss international bid of the global bid?
I'm not going to start slagging the Echo, but I'm confused.
Allotmentman66
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1:40pm Mon 6 Jul 09
brennothornhill
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1:49pm Mon 6 Jul 09
James Reading wrote:I got told that they were putting barriers up to stop anyone going near stadium, since been told its because they are doing some painting
just been to SMS and nothing is happening, Sky or the Echo are not there, and Fry isn't in either. Can anyone tell me whether a deal has to be completed and signed at SMS or can it be else where?
St Retford
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1:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09
James Reading wrote:The deal could be signed on the moon, if they wanted to.
just been to SMS and nothing is happening, Sky or the Echo are not there, and Fry isn't in either. Can anyone tell me whether a deal has to be completed and signed at SMS or can it be else where?
kinkyboots
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1:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D wrote:well i thought the article said it all really
This article has been updated since I read it first and it seems a bit confused now. It isn't clear when it is referring to the international bid or the Swiss bid, which I believed were two separate bids. I think there has been too much hasty cutting and pasting and the result is a mishmash of two stories, neither of which now make sense. According to the Mail, Keith Harris and Orville are connected to the Swiss bid, but according to this one, it's the international bid. Fry says here that the "international bid" ticks all the boxes. Is that the Swiss international bid of the global bid? I'm not going to start slagging the Echo, but I'm confused.
truelysaints
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1:51pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D wrote:I think the International group refers to the Swiss and the Worlwide group refers the the Financial worldwide group. Now Im confused
This article has been updated since I read it first and it seems a bit confused now. It isn't clear when it is referring to the international bid or the Swiss bid, which I believed were two separate bids. I think there has been too much hasty cutting and pasting and the result is a mishmash of two stories, neither of which now make sense. According to the Mail, Keith Harris and Orville are connected to the Swiss bid, but according to this one, it's the international bid. Fry says here that the "international bid" ticks all the boxes. Is that the Swiss international bid of the global bid? I'm not going to start slagging the Echo, but I'm confused.
brennothornhill
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1:53pm Mon 6 Jul 09
I'll do it ffs
sw need-help
dannyep
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1:54pm Mon 6 Jul 09
db_3 wrote:I still dont get the Micky Mouse reference, and may need this explaining to me too.
The Swiss look like a really solid bid rather than the Mickey Mouse Pinnacle debacle. I'm confident Saints' long-term future will now be in good hands. NB) The ABBA comments are references from posts in other threads over the last week and meant as a joke :)
truelysaints
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1:55pm Mon 6 Jul 09
truelysaints
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1:58pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Speak to Donald Duck
db_3 wrote: The Swiss look like a really solid bid rather than the Mickey Mouse Pinnacle debacle. I'm confident Saints' long-term future will now be in good hands. NB) The ABBA comments are references from posts in other threads over the last week and meant as a joke :)I still dont get the Micky Mouse reference, and may need this explaining to me too.
Ciaran
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2:15pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D wrote:In the quotes, Fry refers to the Swiss bid as the "International" group.
This article has been updated since I read it first and it seems a bit confused now. It isn't clear when it is referring to the international bid or the Swiss bid, which I believed were two separate bids. I think there has been too much hasty cutting and pasting and the result is a mishmash of two stories, neither of which now make sense. According to the Mail, Keith Harris and Orville are connected to the Swiss bid, but according to this one, it's the international bid. Fry says here that the "international bid" ticks all the boxes. Is that the Swiss international bid of the global bid? I'm not going to start slagging the Echo, but I'm confused.
The worldwide group are seperate to the Swiss.
HTH.
kinkyboots
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2:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09
truelysaints wrote:are you a bit quackers
dannyep wrote:Speak to Donald Duckdb_3 wrote: The Swiss look like a really solid bid rather than the Mickey Mouse Pinnacle debacle. I'm confident Saints' long-term future will now be in good hands. NB) The ABBA comments are references from posts in other threads over the last week and meant as a joke :)I still dont get the Micky Mouse reference, and may need this explaining to me too.
Fawleysajollygoodfellow
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2:19pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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2:19pm Mon 6 Jul 09
truelysaints wrote:I done some research and niether Micky mouse or Donald Duck are Swedish. Although a minority of Disney conspiricy theorists believe Donald to be of illegitamate Danish decent. Also his quack is known to echo. this is considered highly unusual among ducks and as duckling he was bullied mercilessly by other ducklings because of it. Donald cites this as the catalyst that gave him the determination to succeed in his chosen field of comic acting.
dannyep wrote:Speak to Donald Duckdb_3 wrote: The Swiss look like a really solid bid rather than the Mickey Mouse Pinnacle debacle. I'm confident Saints' long-term future will now be in good hands. NB) The ABBA comments are references from posts in other threads over the last week and meant as a joke :)I still dont get the Micky Mouse reference, and may need this explaining to me too.
EAGLESAINT
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2:20pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Ciaran wrote:fry also states "a couple of minor issues" which are taking a serious amount of time to clear up, so you have every right to be confused.com
Jason D wrote: This article has been updated since I read it first and it seems a bit confused now. It isn't clear when it is referring to the international bid or the Swiss bid, which I believed were two separate bids. I think there has been too much hasty cutting and pasting and the result is a mishmash of two stories, neither of which now make sense. According to the Mail, Keith Harris and Orville are connected to the Swiss bid, but according to this one, it's the international bid. Fry says here that the "international bid" ticks all the boxes. Is that the Swiss international bid of the global bid? I'm not going to start slagging the Echo, but I'm confused.In the quotes, Fry refers to the Swiss bid as the "International" group. The worldwide group are seperate to the Swiss. HTH.
kinkyboots
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2:22pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:is this why donald is so lairy
truelysaints wrote:I done some research and niether Micky mouse or Donald Duck are Swedish. Although a minority of Disney conspiricy theorists believe Donald to be of illegitamate Danish decent. Also his quack is known to echo. this is considered highly unusual among ducks and as duckling he was bullied mercilessly by other ducklings because of it. Donald cites this as the catalyst that gave him the determination to succeed in his chosen field of comic acting.dannyep wrote:Speak to Donald Duckdb_3 wrote: The Swiss look like a really solid bid rather than the Mickey Mouse Pinnacle debacle. I'm confident Saints' long-term future will now be in good hands. NB) The ABBA comments are references from posts in other threads over the last week and meant as a joke :)I still dont get the Micky Mouse reference, and may need this explaining to me too.
truelysaints
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2:23pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Quack Quack.
truelysaints wrote:I done some research and niether Micky mouse or Donald Duck are Swedish. Although a minority of Disney conspiricy theorists believe Donald to be of illegitamate Danish decent. Also his quack is known to echo. this is considered highly unusual among ducks and as duckling he was bullied mercilessly by other ducklings because of it. Donald cites this as the catalyst that gave him the determination to succeed in his chosen field of comic acting.dannyep wrote:Speak to Donald Duckdb_3 wrote: The Swiss look like a really solid bid rather than the Mickey Mouse Pinnacle debacle. I'm confident Saints' long-term future will now be in good hands. NB) The ABBA comments are references from posts in other threads over the last week and meant as a joke :)I still dont get the Micky Mouse reference, and may need this explaining to me too.
BertCatt
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2:30pm Mon 6 Jul 09
EAGLESAINT
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3:01pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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3:01pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Odd?
owen_thesaints
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3:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Sickofitall wrote:Krokus were last seen in Southampton at the Gaumont in the early 80's! I had front row tickets. Ah, those were the days (I had hair then)...!
kinkyboots wrote:You are both right.....Hocus Pocus was by Focus and not Krokus. But Krokus are a great, (the only???) Swiss band. Did a great cover of Ballroom Blitz......and I can't think of anything else that rhymes with 'ocus'!!
stoopid wrote:sorry mate..the group your thinking of is focus fronted by jan ackermann and their dutchsteveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAKrokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus. Krokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus.
aliscan66
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3:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D
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3:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Ciaran wrote:So which one is Keith Harris fronting? Echo says Global, Mail says Swiss, computer says no.
Jason D wrote:In the quotes, Fry refers to the Swiss bid as the "International" group.
This article has been updated since I read it first and it seems a bit confused now. It isn't clear when it is referring to the international bid or the Swiss bid, which I believed were two separate bids. I think there has been too much hasty cutting and pasting and the result is a mishmash of two stories, neither of which now make sense. According to the Mail, Keith Harris and Orville are connected to the Swiss bid, but according to this one, it's the international bid. Fry says here that the "international bid" ticks all the boxes. Is that the Swiss international bid of the global bid? I'm not going to start slagging the Echo, but I'm confused.
The worldwide group are seperate to the Swiss.
HTH.
Patrick80's
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3:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Bitterne Park Tim
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3:09pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D
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3:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Jason D wrote:Sorry, ignore that, I'm confusing myself. He is indeed fronting the global bid – I should learn to read.
Ciaran wrote:So which one is Keith Harris fronting? Echo says Global, Mail says Swiss, computer says no.
Jason D wrote:In the quotes, Fry refers to the Swiss bid as the "International" group.
This article has been updated since I read it first and it seems a bit confused now. It isn't clear when it is referring to the international bid or the Swiss bid, which I believed were two separate bids. I think there has been too much hasty cutting and pasting and the result is a mishmash of two stories, neither of which now make sense. According to the Mail, Keith Harris and Orville are connected to the Swiss bid, but according to this one, it's the international bid. Fry says here that the "international bid" ticks all the boxes. Is that the Swiss international bid of the global bid? I'm not going to start slagging the Echo, but I'm confused.
The worldwide group are seperate to the Swiss.
HTH.
Patrick80's
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3:11pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Bitterne Park Tim wrote:Read the above, Calm down the deal is being done !
Come on Mr Fry... can we start dealing in fact... Do we have a bloody buyer or not.... are these minor issues show stoppers... as they have been in the past....
saintjack
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3:11pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Patrick80's
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3:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
saintjack wrote:Press conference Wednesday !
Just WHEN is it going to happen this really is taking the p***
stmarysmush
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3:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09
ShakeyWiffles
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3:18pm Mon 6 Jul 09
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=RTXs3NUXr
hg
kuwait Saint
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3:18pm Mon 6 Jul 09
James Reading
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3:26pm Mon 6 Jul 09
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/sport1/hi/football
/teams/s/southampton
/8136389.stm
brennothornhill
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3:27pm Mon 6 Jul 09
season ticket holder
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3:33pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Mark Fry has been here since the beginning of April.
Perhaps he is behind one of the bids. After all he knows all about the Saints finances
stormus troupias the 2nd
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3:35pm Mon 6 Jul 09
James Reading
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3:36pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Dickosfc
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3:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09
James Reading wrote:Does sound promising mate...
New News just been released on BBC: http://news.bbc.co.u k/sport1/hi/football /teams/s/southampton /8136389.stm
He said this is the most confident he's been so far. Really don't want to get my hopes up though!!
Patrick80's
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3:39pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Southampton Football Club is on the verge of being taken over by a member of one of Europe's biggest business dynasties, reports BBC Radio Solent.
A member of the family behind the Swiss-based Liebherr Holdings group is closing in on a purchase at St Mary's.
The bid has not come, as reported, from siblings Isolde and Willi Leibherr, or their Leibherr Group company.
Administrator Mark Fry said: "Although you're never sure a buyer won't pull out, I'm more confident of a sale."
Before a deal can be completed, there are several issues that have to be sorted out, including the Football League carrying out a period of due diligence on the club's prospective new owners.
The Liebherr Group is a multi-national company, which has been at the forefront of the construction industry worldwide for over 50 years.
The administrator's deadline for the sale of the football club passed on Friday, without him carrying out a threat to wind up the club.
Southampton went into administration in April, and as a result, will start the League One season on minus 10 points.
On 30 June, the Pinnacle group, headed by former Saints player Matthew Le Tissier, pulled out of negotiations to take over the club.
richarddstarky
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3:42pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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3:43pm Mon 6 Jul 09
phew!
time for a cup of tea i think before my head oveheats
db_3
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3:45pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kuwait Saint wrote:Aviain flu got him.
It's all very well Keith harris getting involved, however he is a nobody without Orville and there is no mention of him
Incidentally I heard Cuddles was actually the real money man behind the rival Pinnacle bid after a split with Harris.
kinkyboots
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3:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09
richarddstarky wrote:stuck up donalds @ss last i heard
So in other words no new news,and still no mention where mickey mouse has been !
Sickofitall
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3:48pm Mon 6 Jul 09
owen_thesaints wrote:Nice one Owen....I was there. I think I was 11 or 12 and my Mum wouldn't let me go in the stalls so I had to sit in the stalls!! Happy days indeed!! Can't beat a good bit of Rock'N (Swiss) Roll!!!!
Sickofitall wrote:Krokus were last seen in Southampton at the Gaumont in the early 80's! I had front row tickets. Ah, those were the days (I had hair then)...!kinkyboots wrote:You are both right.....Hocus Pocus was by Focus and not Krokus. But Krokus are a great, (the only???) Swiss band. Did a great cover of Ballroom Blitz......and I can't think of anything else that rhymes with 'ocus'!!stoopid wrote:sorry mate..the group your thinking of is focus fronted by jan ackermann and their dutchsteveeew wrote: Bring on the ABBAKrokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus. Krokus are Switzerland’s most successful band – now we’re talking. Forget all that Scandinavian Mama-Mia nonsense. Plug the 8-track into St. Mary’s tannoy and blast out mega prog-rock yodeling of Hocus-Pocus.
kinkyboots
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3:53pm Mon 6 Jul 09
db_3 wrote:agreed.this is true cuddles made a statement to the daily sport saying "i hate that duck ..why cant keith stick his hand up my @ss for a change" an insider said that cuddles was extremely upset and is in the process of building a relationship with katie price aka jordan.a close aid ti katie said they were "only friends" but is believed to have an account with a bananna supplier...story contines.....
kuwait Saint wrote: It's all very well Keith harris getting involved, however he is a nobody without Orville and there is no mention of himAviain flu got him. Incidentally I heard Cuddles was actually the real money man behind the rival Pinnacle bid after a split with Harris.
Patrick80's
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3:53pm Mon 6 Jul 09
om/topic/liebherr-in
ternational-ag
I think it is the son of willi that is the buyer ?????
He is due to take over the company ???
northamsoul
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3:58pm Mon 6 Jul 09
We have all been very patient but now iam going insane..
4 weeks until we have millwall at home on sky.
Do it and DO IT NOW...
Gary76_SFC
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3:59pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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4:00pm Mon 6 Jul 09
db_3 wrote:LATEST: The reason the Harris bid looks to have failed was because of 4 major points of disagreement between Harris and Orville that couldnt be reconciled. The negotiations were said to be frantic and Fry ended up covered in feathers and unimpressed.
kuwait Saint wrote: It's all very well Keith harris getting involved, however he is a nobody without Orville and there is no mention of himAviain flu got him. Incidentally I heard Cuddles was actually the real money man behind the rival Pinnacle bid after a split with Harris.
richarddstarky
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4:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09
True Saints Fan
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4:04pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots
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4:11pm Mon 6 Jul 09
richarddstarky wrote:i will enlighten you.mickey mouse is a closet gay and minnie found out when the duck nephews huey duey and luey caught don and mick in a comprimising position ...letssay ky jelly was involved
thanks to kinkyboots for the information aabout mickey mouse,do you know how such an unfortunate accident happened ?
EAGLESAINT
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4:11pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:i hope spit the dog doesnt get involved or the feathers will really fly
db_3 wrote:LATEST: The reason the Harris bid looks to have failed was because of 4 major points of disagreement between Harris and Orville that couldnt be reconciled. The negotiations were said to be frantic and Fry ended up covered in feathers and unimpressed.kuwait Saint wrote: It's all very well Keith harris getting involved, however he is a nobody without Orville and there is no mention of himAviain flu got him. Incidentally I heard Cuddles was actually the real money man behind the rival Pinnacle bid after a split with Harris.
richarddstarky
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4:11pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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4:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
richarddstarky wrote:This was no accident. Micky 'came out' to close friends and family about a year ago and now prefers to be called 'Michael' Minnie has yet to make a public comment but is said to believe it to be 'just a phase' and a 'mid life crisis'
thanks to kinkyboots for the information aabout mickey mouse,do you know how such an unfortunate accident happened ?
richarddstarky
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4:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09
richarddstarky
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4:16pm Mon 6 Jul 09
EAGLESAINT
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4:22pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Michael Mouse was also caught bent over with pinnociho behind telling him to say pompey were a fantastic team. lies and lies and more lies
richarddstarky wrote: thanks to kinkyboots for the information aabout mickey mouse,do you know how such an unfortunate accident happened ?This was no accident. Micky 'came out' to close friends and family about a year ago and now prefers to be called 'Michael' Minnie has yet to make a public comment but is said to believe it to be 'just a phase' and a 'mid life crisis'
northamsoul
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4:24pm Mon 6 Jul 09
EAGLESAINT wrote:ha ha ha ha,...quality;)
dannyep wrote:Michael Mouse was also caught bent over with pinnociho behind telling him to say pompey were a fantastic team. lies and lies and more liesricharddstarky wrote: thanks to kinkyboots for the information aabout mickey mouse,do you know how such an unfortunate accident happened ?This was no accident. Micky 'came out' to close friends and family about a year ago and now prefers to be called 'Michael' Minnie has yet to make a public comment but is said to believe it to be 'just a phase' and a 'mid life crisis'
Patrick80's
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4:24pm Mon 6 Jul 09
MILLBRONX MUSH
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4:30pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots
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4:31pm Mon 6 Jul 09
holmesy1995
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4:31pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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4:40pm Mon 6 Jul 09
holmesy1995 wrote:search 'bbc radio solent' and play it live from your pc
what wave is radio solent on!!!!!!!
HarvSFC
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4:41pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots
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4:42pm Mon 6 Jul 09
northamsoul
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4:42pm Mon 6 Jul 09
It better be good news...nothing on wave105 as yet.
Allotmentman66
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4:42pm Mon 6 Jul 09
holmesy1995 wrote:Radio solent is on 96.1 fm
what wave is radio solent on!!!!!!!
kinkyboots
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4:45pm Mon 6 Jul 09
holmesy1995
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4:45pm Mon 6 Jul 09
EAGLESAINT
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4:48pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia
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4:51pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots
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5:01pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Burton Saint
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5:03pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia wrote:Nothing on WHU OS so he must still be a free agent. Keep the faith.
Just got home, enough of this Walt Disney Carp, has ayone got any info on Kelvin, does he still want to play for Saints? or has he signed for West Ham.
kinkyboots
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5:06pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia
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5:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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5:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:Hpoe he's 'working extremely hard' on a bid for pompey. Dont see them wallowing in the misfortune of others today. I would go as far to say all gone a bit quite over there!!
so wheres tony lynam then ? pinnacle were suppossed to be "working extremely hard" on saturday. talk about face saving.....if it wasnt so serious it would nearly be funny.....tw@ts
Invidia
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5:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Burton Saint wrote:Thanks Burton saint at least there are still some fans on here
Invidia wrote: Just got home, enough of this Walt Disney Carp, has ayone got any info on Kelvin, does he still want to play for Saints? or has he signed for West Ham.Nothing on WHU OS so he must still be a free agent. Keep the faith.
Burton Saint
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5:15pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:Where did this gem come from?
i dont believe it ...kelvin davis will sign for pompey tommorrow .david james and peter crouch are off to villa
dannyep
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5:20pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia wrote:Yep. Wish the rest of us were as saintly as you.
Burton Saint wrote:Thanks Burton saint at least there are still some fans on hereInvidia wrote: Just got home, enough of this Walt Disney Carp, has ayone got any info on Kelvin, does he still want to play for Saints? or has he signed for West Ham.Nothing on WHU OS so he must still be a free agent. Keep the faith.
genuine sw; wish-come
dannyep
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5:23pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Hows the stigmata? OK I hope
Invidia wrote:Yep. Wish the rest of us were as saintly as you. genuine sw; wish-comeBurton Saint wrote:Thanks Burton saint at least there are still some fans on hereInvidia wrote: Just got home, enough of this Walt Disney Carp, has ayone got any info on Kelvin, does he still want to play for Saints? or has he signed for West Ham.Nothing on WHU OS so he must still be a free agent. Keep the faith.
OvertonSaint
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5:32pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SW fall-past
EAGLESAINT
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5:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:there are more than a few true saints fans on here, we've been on most of the day, just passing the time waiting for the nod to go out and get p***** to welcome our new owners !!!
dannyep wrote:Hows the stigmata? OK I hopeInvidia wrote:Yep. Wish the rest of us were as saintly as you. genuine sw; wish-comeBurton Saint wrote:Thanks Burton saint at least there are still some fans on hereInvidia wrote: Just got home, enough of this Walt Disney Carp, has ayone got any info on Kelvin, does he still want to play for Saints? or has he signed for West Ham.Nothing on WHU OS so he must still be a free agent. Keep the faith.
kinkyboots
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5:39pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:do you know what that means....and dont go by the film "stigmata"
dannyep wrote:Hows the stigmata? OK I hopeInvidia wrote:Yep. Wish the rest of us were as saintly as you. genuine sw; wish-comeBurton Saint wrote:Thanks Burton saint at least there are still some fans on hereInvidia wrote: Just got home, enough of this Walt Disney Carp, has ayone got any info on Kelvin, does he still want to play for Saints? or has he signed for West Ham.Nothing on WHU OS so he must still be a free agent. Keep the faith.
dannyep
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5:44pm Mon 6 Jul 09
threetimes
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5:46pm Mon 6 Jul 09
k.yourforumlive.com/
index.htm
dannyep
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5:47pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:As far as I know its a condition that affect particulaly holy people chosen by God
dannyep wrote:do you know what that means....and dont go by the film "stigmata"dannyep wrote:Hows the stigmata? OK I hopeInvidia wrote:Yep. Wish the rest of us were as saintly as you. genuine sw; wish-comeBurton Saint wrote:Thanks Burton saint at least there are still some fans on hereInvidia wrote: Just got home, enough of this Walt Disney Carp, has ayone got any info on Kelvin, does he still want to play for Saints? or has he signed for West Ham.Nothing on WHU OS so he must still be a free agent. Keep the faith.
exiledinyork
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5:51pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia
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5:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09
EAGLESAINT
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5:55pm Mon 6 Jul 09
richarddstarky
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5:55pm Mon 6 Jul 09
saint pugwash
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5:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09
exiledinyork wrote:You people always slagging the echo. This is the ONLY place where we get any regular updates whether good bad or indifferent. What do we get from Saints so called web site. NOTHING!!!!
The single worst thing that could happen now is for Batchelor to get his mucky mitts anywhere near our beloved club. He destroyed York City who have never really recovered. Everyone up here hates him still and the Mansfield fans did everything they could to stop him taking them over. The man is a gareth hunt. Don't rely on reports from The Press in York either; they're owned by Gannett who own The Echo and seem to share shoddy journalistic values.
dannyep
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5:56pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia wrote:It was, but then someone shot the whole day down
I always thought that Mondays was pension day or social day, but I read somewhere that it is sent by post now.
Saintan
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5:58pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:where did u hear this boots?
i dont believe it ...kelvin davis will sign for pompey tommorrow .david james and peter crouch are off to villa
or ru messing around?
shirty
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6:24pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Only £8.99
from
www.subbuteoworld.co
.uk
And Yes that is for the 1ST team
Tye-Dye
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6:27pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Hold your horses Kelvin, other wise you will be a definite candidate for Mr frying pan into the fire award 2009.
COYS
sw= blow-your.....the mind boggles!
Bitterne Park Tim
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6:28pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:and again....
i dont believe it ...kelvin davis will sign for pompey tommorrow .david james and peter crouch are off to villa
P.Antysnatcher
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6:28pm Mon 6 Jul 09
P
sam kurn
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6:30pm Mon 6 Jul 09
sam kurn
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6:30pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintRachel
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6:49pm Mon 6 Jul 09
sam kurn wrote:So good he had to say it twice!
Why cant the takeover be as easy as eating SWISS ROLL!
kinkyboots
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6:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Saintan wrote:just joking .pompey are in the cack according to radio 5 talk sport.there is no currant bid to buy the club...said by peter storry
kinkyboots wrote: i dont believe it ...kelvin davis will sign for pompey tommorrow .david james and peter crouch are off to villawhere did u hear this boots? or ru messing around?
chapellady
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6:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintRachel
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6:52pm Mon 6 Jul 09
sam kurn wrote:Is this the Liebherr in question? Do you think he yodels too?
Why cant the takeover be as easy as eating SWISS ROLL!
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=4VAZ4neck
NI
Just a little light relief during the long, long wait for news...
mentazm1974
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6:59pm Mon 6 Jul 09
gimme gimme gimme a deal after midnight.
come on you saints!!!
kinkyboots
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7:00pm Mon 6 Jul 09
wellers
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7:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09
mentazm1974
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7:10pm Mon 6 Jul 09
kinkyboots wrote:hope this is true. after they all have been gloating over the past 5 yrs, nothing but a tin pot
Saintan wrote:just joking .pompey are in the cack according to radio 5 talk sport.there is no currant bid to buy the club...said by peter storrykinkyboots wrote: i dont believe it ...kelvin davis will sign for pompey tommorrow .david james and peter crouch are off to villawhere did u hear this boots? or ru messing around?
steveeew
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7:15pm Mon 6 Jul 09
rijo12
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7:30pm Mon 6 Jul 09
saint-barnard
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7:34pm Mon 6 Jul 09
! MWAHahahahahahahahah
aha! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sorry guys and girls, had to get that out!
'We're gonna be on the March with our Swiss Aaaaaarmy... We might even win a League! And we'll really shake em up, When we win the JP Cup, Cuuuuuz Southampton are the Greatest Football team!'
coyFs!
Patrick80's
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7:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09
P.Antysnatcher wrote:I dont think Jimmey Case will be too happy !
I've got an idea as to how the club could raise money in the interim. Players' wives and girlfriends could donate their freshly-worn panties, to be auctioned off to the highest bidder. What do you reckon? P
dannyep
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7:40pm Mon 6 Jul 09
SaintRachel wrote:Ha!
sam kurn wrote: Why cant the takeover be as easy as eating SWISS ROLL!So good he had to say it twice!
dannyfloyd
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7:40pm Mon 6 Jul 09
mentazm1974 wrote:gimme gimme gimme a brain after midnight
first time i have had an excited smile (about saints) in what seems to be an age. gimme gimme gimme a deal after midnight. come on you saints!!!
won't somebody tell him that abba are swedes
sweden is the snowy bit north west of poland. switzerland is a mountain between france an italy famous for clocks and multi purpose knives.
Patrick80's
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7:41pm Mon 6 Jul 09
WS:near-sign
Gary Clark
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7:42pm Mon 6 Jul 09
season ticket holder
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7:45pm Mon 6 Jul 09
saint pugwash wrote:I always log on to newsnow.co.uk
exiledinyork wrote: The single worst thing that could happen now is for Batchelor to get his mucky mitts anywhere near our beloved club. He destroyed York City who have never really recovered. Everyone up here hates him still and the Mansfield fans did everything they could to stop him taking them over. The man is a gareth hunt. Don't rely on reports from The Press in York either; they're owned by Gannett who own The Echo and seem to share shoddy journalistic values.You people always slagging the echo. This is the ONLY place where we get any regular updates whether good bad or indifferent. What do we get from Saints so called web site. NOTHING!!!!
http://www.newsnow.c
o.uk/h/Sport/Footbal
l/League+One/Southam
pton
It has updates from every source including the echo
season ticket holder
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7:47pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Gary Clark wrote:MW has a 12 months rolling contract
until any takeover of Southampton Football Club is signed, sealed, and truly delivered I will not believe anything that Mark Fry, or anybody else involved with possible consortiums to takeover the club. I have become truly fed up now it's very boring and old news repeating itself. Hopefully when and if a takeover is finally completed there will be a new manager in because Mark Wotte is useless, no tactical knowledge, continues to play formation that clearly never worked, and will definately not get Southampton out of League 1 playing like we did under his so-called management during the second half of the season!
jandat44
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7:55pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Zenith
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7:59pm Mon 6 Jul 09
season ticket holder wrote:A 'swiss roll'ing contract? B-dom tish!
Gary Clark wrote: until any takeover of Southampton Football Club is signed, sealed, and truly delivered I will not believe anything that Mark Fry, or anybody else involved with possible consortiums to takeover the club. I have become truly fed up now it's very boring and old news repeating itself. Hopefully when and if a takeover is finally completed there will be a new manager in because Mark Wotte is useless, no tactical knowledge, continues to play formation that clearly never worked, and will definately not get Southampton out of League 1 playing like we did under his so-called management during the second half of the season!MW has a 12 months rolling contract
SwindonSaint
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8:01pm Mon 6 Jul 09
season ticket holder wrote:Thanks for that. Looks like the news will appear on here first.
saint pugwash wrote:I always log on to newsnow.co.uk http://www.newsnow.c o.uk/h/Sport/Footbal l/League+One/Southam pton It has updates from every source including the echoexiledinyork wrote: The single worst thing that could happen now is for Batchelor to get his mucky mitts anywhere near our beloved club. He destroyed York City who have never really recovered. Everyone up here hates him still and the Mansfield fans did everything they could to stop him taking them over. The man is a gareth hunt. Don't rely on reports from The Press in York either; they're owned by Gannett who own The Echo and seem to share shoddy journalistic values.You people always slagging the echo. This is the ONLY place where we get any regular updates whether good bad or indifferent. What do we get from Saints so called web site. NOTHING!!!!
sw upon-lady
say no more
Ross96
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8:30pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia
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8:50pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Drakespride
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8:58pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Burton Saint
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8:59pm Mon 6 Jul 09
season ticket holder wrote:I log on to News Now but most of the listings are fan sites with rehashes from the Echo and the OS. You do get the postings from The Mirror, Guardian, etc. but they are few and far between.
saint pugwash wrote:I always log on to newsnow.co.uk
exiledinyork wrote: The single worst thing that could happen now is for Batchelor to get his mucky mitts anywhere near our beloved club. He destroyed York City who have never really recovered. Everyone up here hates him still and the Mansfield fans did everything they could to stop him taking them over. The man is a gareth hunt. Don't rely on reports from The Press in York either; they're owned by Gannett who own The Echo and seem to share shoddy journalistic values.You people always slagging the echo. This is the ONLY place where we get any regular updates whether good bad or indifferent. What do we get from Saints so called web site. NOTHING!!!!
http://www.newsnow.c
o.uk/h/Sport/Footbal
l/League+One/Southam
pton
It has updates from every source including the echo
The Daily Echo does seem to have an inside track, the national tabloids either give opinions , comment or publish direct lifts from the Echo
wraggster
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9:08pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Southampton Heart
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9:17pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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9:24pm Mon 6 Jul 09
I think its the end of 8 days of dealing with Liebherr Group. The biggest thing is that all the creditors have to sign off individually with 30m worth to sign off it takes ages.
It sounds like Liebherr have done everything, the Football League now have their turn to check out The Liebherr book (no doubt a group put forward to buy the club) and that should be a formality... Mark Fry has done well picking them and has kept his cautious optimism nicely grounded.
I'm interested in who is behind The World Wide Financial Group represented by Keith Harris. He is a big player in football take overs so it must be some serious buyers to enlist him.
Gillico is lost at sea on an island cos their skipper was bonking Ginger York and crashed on the rocks.
It's said to be a three way race so obviously Smiling Mickey didn't raise the ashes of Pinnacle. I guess Matt is quiet as he will be hoping for a job with Liebherr's at the club.
oh Invidia.. I will be home from work later on and will spend the evening watching coro and checking the web for news... so hopefully will get some news before midnight tonight our time.
All the best
Up The Saints
Invidia
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9:29pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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10:12pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia wrote:I understand that the players signed up by the Lowe era had a relegation salary drop built in to their contracts. The others were told by Mark Wotte that the money they would get in League one was nothing like what they were used to... but I couldn't find any ref to salary caps.
To change the subject somewhat, corrct me if I am wrong but is there a cap on players wages in league 1, if this is so will the over paid players be playing next season, that is if no other club would sign them. what happens to their contracts, will they have to re-negotiate?
Lol I suppose I'd better go to work shortly... ciao
sw= fine-some haha
Invidia
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10:24pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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10:37pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia wrote:Why dont you, from time to time,just for a little while, get your head out of your @rse. You might even like it.
I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere, hey don't be late for work Tirau Dan. It is good to see someone works, looking at the post on here most must be on shift work, retired or dare I say social security.
rickyroyl
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10:43pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia
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10:49pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:Hit a nerve did I
Invidia wrote: I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere, hey don't be late for work Tirau Dan. It is good to see someone works, looking at the post on here most must be on shift work, retired or dare I say social security.Why dont you, from time to time,just for a little while, get your head out of your @rse. You might even like it.
dannyep
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10:54pm Mon 6 Jul 09
Invidia wrote:Smug, smarmy, humourless comments about other posters who have shown you no malice always hit a nerve. This isnt the first time either
dannyep wrote:Hit a nerve did IInvidia wrote: I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere, hey don't be late for work Tirau Dan. It is good to see someone works, looking at the post on here most must be on shift work, retired or dare I say social security.Why dont you, from time to time,just for a little while, get your head out of your @rse. You might even like it.
Invidia
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11:02pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep wrote:It is much more civilized when you post in Queens English.
Invidia wrote:Smug, smarmy, humourless comments about other posters who have shown you no malice always hit a nerve. This isnt the first time eitherdannyep wrote:Hit a nerve did IInvidia wrote: I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere, hey don't be late for work Tirau Dan. It is good to see someone works, looking at the post on here most must be on shift work, retired or dare I say social security.Why dont you, from time to time,just for a little while, get your head out of your @rse. You might even like it.
brighton saint
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11:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
dannyep
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11:13pm Mon 6 Jul 09
rickyroyl
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11:20pm Mon 6 Jul 09
ShakeyWiffles
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1:04am Tue 7 Jul 09
Invidia wrote:Have you ever stopped to think there might be an actual reason (medical or otherwise) why people don't work? If you didn't mean that I'm sorry for just 'assuming' but some of 'us' have reasons. Others have college/university etc. Oh and shift work is still work. The name kind of give you a clue? Shift WORK
I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere, hey don't be late for work Tirau Dan. It is good to see someone works, looking at the post on here most must be on shift work, retired or dare I say social security.
SaintRachel
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1:14am Tue 7 Jul 09
"Full Name: Grazer Athletiksport Klub
City: Graz
Founded: 1902
Stadium: UPC-Arena (15,450)
Colors: Red, White
Nicknames: Rote Teufel (Red Devils), Rotjacken (Red Jackets), GAK
Rival: Sturm Graz
Official Website: gak.at
Description:
Founded on August 18, 1902. Liebherr is the club's main sponsor. Liebenau is a district of Graz. Traditionally supported by the upper class of Graz, as opposed to the working class fan base of arch-rivals Sturm. The stadium was previously known as the Arnold Schwarzenegger Stadium, named for the Graz native."
icannotrace
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2:27am Tue 7 Jul 09
Linesman wrote:Asset? Since when would SFC be regarded as an asset? Why do these people want to buy a football club, certainly not to add profit.
greystonesben wrote: Turnover's vanity, profit is sanity, but £8b turnover a year is nothing to be smirked at. I read over the weekend that this would make us the 4th richest club in English football. That would be very nice! Come on you Swiss, complete the deal asap!!! COYRIf they take over, SFC will be just a part of their interests and the all of their profits will not be poured into football - the other business interests will have to be maintained. It would be another asset on the firm's portfolio.
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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4:53am Tue 7 Jul 09
All debts and loans must go any non-profit making area within the ground have to be very quickly analysed and fixed or cut.
Tight financial control with department managers rigidly adhering to P&Ls and budget targets.
A rational expectation of investment to player base with bonuses and fines built into performance pay. Balanced against promotion, control of sponsorship deals and tv rights.
Vastly improved usage of the stadium and facilities. This area would involve specialist event managers on part performance bonus salaries. Everything from car parks up would have to make money.
Japanese quality circles of rotation al customer need and service delivery survey command all levels of KPI based employment policy.
Aim = high performance at every level in every department delivering and exceeding customer expectation.
Mantra: All Win!
No negativity allowed in staff or structure at all.... get it right achieve the targets and reap the rewards.
It works everywhere in every business large and small. Those who knock not belong in the organisation or anywhere near it.
Thats 200 quid ..cheers
Shotgunjohn72
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6:02am Tue 7 Jul 09
milton road
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6:04am Tue 7 Jul 09
Captain Kirk
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6:13am Tue 7 Jul 09
milton road wrote:Leibherr sponsors Graz as far as I can tell. It does not own the club. In fact, I am not even sure that the sponsorship still exists.
if what you say about Graz is true then Liebherr are unlikely to be the buyer. It is illegal for anyone to be involved in two football clubs
leedunsdon
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6:22am Tue 7 Jul 09
Come on you Saints
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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6:55am Tue 7 Jul 09
leedunsdon wrote:Several individuals actually put in towards wages including Leon Crouch. Pinnacle paid a non refundable exclusivity fee at the end of which they couldn't come up with the money and pulled out. They said they would put in towards further wages but didn't.
I'm waiting for some firm news, Lets face it the worst case scenario would be no buyer and club being liquidated. Fans would then have to reform club to begin in non-league. Bareing that in mind Coca Cola Lgue 1 doesn't seem so bad. Just hoping club is bought before it's too late. Don't forget Pinnacle paid clubs wages for a month with non refundable deposit, this may have allowed time for more interest to be generated in club.
Come on you Saints
Anyway that's well in the past now.
The fact that The Swiss Group have completed due diligence and now The Football League are doing the due diligence on their books if great. No way are Liebherr going to fail due diligence.
Keep the feet on the ground but everything is very optimistic at the moment and a little excitement is quite called for.
Hands up how many are going to Totton 7.45pm.... off you all go.. Only 1700 went to Eastleigh and the reports were really pleasing especially for the young guys playing in the second half.
Get in behind the Saints and have a look at the young fellas v Totton. If lots turn out it will give a real boost to Mark Wotte and show solidarity and appreciation to the new owners or bidders in there buying the club.
Up the Saints
saintforever
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7:26am Tue 7 Jul 09
coyr
s-word - cash-wave
LETS HOPE THATS TRUE
milton road
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7:33am Tue 7 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL)
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8:11am Tue 7 Jul 09
It's all good..
Alicesdad
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8:26am Tue 7 Jul 09
Companies like Barclays and Norwich Union do not let millions slip away lightly. I note that little if anything has been said about them. That's because they remain silent and the general public doesn't understand how the financing of clubs works on a day to day basis.
The public prefer focus on who the manager will be, is the new owner rich, and how soon will we be back in the Premiership. Fair enough and I'm as interested in those things as anyone else. However the creditors are the ones who can pull the plug on all of this, remember that Fry was appointed by them. If they are not happy with the selling price then it's all over and they will liquidate the club to try to retrieve their money.
I cannot see the club being worth much when the assets are broken down. That's why the bids are so low. So the problem is how much of hit are the creditors going to take. Much of the time delay is almost certainly Fry waiting for Barclays and Norwich Union to get back to him when they have been made an offer. Barclays, like all banks have a lot of problems of their own to sort out so will be very tough in the negotiations. They are not interested in teh clubs position, they are interested in repayment, so this could easily last another week or two.
The details of all that will not become fully public, even after the sale so its very frustrating for the fans. So the fans will continue pick on whoever is visible in the press and TV, or whose name they recognise, or whose name might rhyme with Lowe.
milton road
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8:27am Tue 7 Jul 09
it sounds though the deal is still days away.
and implies the league completing diligence while the buyer sorts out complications. That is my understanding, may have mis understood.
so no news for a while i think and isn't that what MF implied. though fairly confident
milton road
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8:45am Tue 7 Jul 09
if the ground had been built three years ago its cost would have been between 50-60 million.
the outstanding amount on it was 24 million.
the holding company going into admin left creditors slashing what they wanted. Something is better than nothing. The deal had to be atttractive to investors.
taking the current market once tthe club is solvent the grounds worth will probably revert to around 34 million allowing for the recession. The training ground and farm are worth money.So the investors have a deal which will see them realise an investment profit immediately. with a market that is only going to go up. Given that a successful club base can be built. Then the vlaue will further increase. Otherwise why do you think so many people have got real interest in buying the club.Its rock bottom price make it very low risk.
they are not going to lose on their investment.even when they put money in they will see a good return when they sell the club in a few years. This is business. I have worked with people like this for many years. They will get the club to a solid status then look to sell it on i expect.For a very nice profit and get a very good return for what they have put in now and over the next couple of years.
That is the realism of it.
Saints since '57
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8:45am Tue 7 Jul 09
Treas
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8:48am Tue 7 Jul 09
threetimes
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8:48am Tue 7 Jul 09
Alicesdad wrote:Surely all this would have been sorted out during due dilligence. What else have they been discussing all this time? Which pies to serve on match days???
Let's hope a deal is done soon. I believe the basics are all settled but there will be creditors fighting to get as much of their money back as possible. Companies like Barclays and Norwich Union do not let millions slip away lightly. I note that little if anything has been said about them. That's because they remain silent and the general public doesn't understand how the financing of clubs works on a day to day basis. The public prefer focus on who the manager will be, is the new owner rich, and how soon will we be back in the Premiership. Fair enough and I'm as interested in those things as anyone else. However the creditors are the ones who can pull the plug on all of this, remember that Fry was appointed by them. If they are not happy with the selling price then it's all over and they will liquidate the club to try to retrieve their money. I cannot see the club being worth much when the assets are broken down. That's why the bids are so low. So the problem is how much of hit are the creditors going to take. Much of the time delay is almost certainly Fry waiting for Barclays and Norwich Union to get back to him when they have been made an offer. Barclays, like all banks have a lot of problems of their own to sort out so will be very tough in the negotiations. They are not interested in teh clubs position, they are interested in repayment, so this could easily last another week or two. The details of all that will not become fully public, even after the sale so its very frustrating for the fans. So the fans will continue pick on whoever is visible in the press and TV, or whose name they recognise, or whose name might rhyme with Lowe.
Alicesdad
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10:46am Tue 7 Jul 09
Barclays might be wiling to write off £4 million - but I doubt it with a ground like St Marys and other land as an asset.
It's unlikely that a new owner will pay off all the debts, its more likely they will buy the club but refinance te debts and reschedule them. However the creditors will want to feel sure the new owners will be able to turn the club around and repay them in full.
If you think it will all be written off then you are naive ...remember this isn't a liquidation yet. The administrator is looking for a CVA. I'm not sure everyone appereciates exactly what that is. Google it if you don't know.
...it would be good if they did pay it all off though .. but although they are Swiss they don't live in cloud cuckoo land.
icannotrace
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1:47am Wed 8 Jul 09
Tirau Dan (NZL) wrote:All true in a perfect world but what's the difference between SFC and the other 90 odd clubs in the league?
Given the right financial backing, a reasonable business person could turn Saints quickly into a profit making machine. All debts and loans must go any non-profit making area within the ground have to be very quickly analysed and fixed or cut. Tight financial control with department managers rigidly adhering to P&Ls and budget targets. A rational expectation of investment to player base with bonuses and fines built into performance pay. Balanced against promotion, control of sponsorship deals and tv rights. Vastly improved usage of the stadium and facilities. This area would involve specialist event managers on part performance bonus salaries. Everything from car parks up would have to make money. Japanese quality circles of rotation al customer need and service delivery survey command all levels of KPI based employment policy. Aim = high performance at every level in every department delivering and exceeding customer expectation. Mantra: All Win! No negativity allowed in staff or structure at all.... get it right achieve the targets and reap the rewards. It works everywhere in every business large and small. Those who knock not belong in the organisation or anywhere near it. Thats 200 quid ..cheers
steveeew says...
8:38am Mon 6 Jul 09